The Flycast - The Reason CourageJD Left OpTic | The Flycast Ep. 40

Episode Date: April 25, 2022

This week on The Flycast Hitch and MaNiaC discuss the future of OpTic, mental health, and why CourageJD left OpTic.  Check out the OpTic Podcast here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/optic-podcast/id1542810047 https://open.spotify.com/show/25iPKftrl0akOZKqS0wHQG The Reason CourageJD Left OpTic | The Flycast Ep. 40

Is it weird that I can sit like this? Like what? What are you sitting like? Like, I don't know if like my nuts was show on camera. Are you wearing a skirt? You just did that. I saw the outline of your nuts. Dude, normal guys, normal guys can't sit like this.

What? Like that? Like this? Like this? Try. Like this? Yeah, but have... This is a stretch in soccer.

But have your knees touch the couch. Oh. No, I'd have to lean back. I can do it if I lean back. I can lean forward. Whenever I go and work out, there's like certain poses where like some of the people are like, what the fuck? You just do it perfectly? Yeah, I'm like super flexible for some reason, but.

You go to yoga every day? No. I do yoga. Maybe. This feels good. I try to do once a week. This feels really good. Yeah, I like this.

I like this setup for the flat cast better than any set up. Oh, yeah. This is great. Because I feel, yeah, I bet it is great, isn't it? I'm real comfy over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Flycast episode 38. 40. Is it 40?

Yeah. It was 39. Yeah, last one was 39. Episode 40. You know what I thought about before coming over here? It's like, I feel like every time, maybe it's because every time we do a flycast, it's been like months that we haven't done one. Yeah.

It's like, how you doing, man? but I've never asked you have I asked you how are you doing? You know sometimes I just want you to answer it like you know what man I'm stressed it's definitely And it'd make me feel better

I mean I am fucking stressed It's definitely the busiest I've ever been in my life Without it by far the busiest With the creative director role Yeah with all that stuff Right now my biggest My like personal little passion

project for optic is to it's to like start reboot or like reboot and relaunch the Spanish side and I got to tell you really you're in charge of that I got to tell you the you know the hardest part about that huh dude I don't

fucking sit huh I don't know how I want to sit just blanket's fucking me in what Spanish side what's yeah the hard about the hardest part about that is not speaking Spanish that's got to be the hardest part yeah yeah I could see that but yeah but that's actually it's something that I doing yeah it's something that I've wanted to do for a long

time is it because you're a soccer fan not really and soccer's like I don't know I just think I think of Spanish when I think of soccer you do yeah I've I guess I I think of like I think of like yeah I do think of Spanish and I think of Mexico too like I just I know Mexico loves soccer so much. Is that something you wanted to do? Or it's like, this has to happen. No,

no, no. Something I brought to them. It's something that I've wanted to do for a long time. I always thought that whenever we had Mixwell, that like we could have done something there. Because like we have Hector. Like that,

I feel like that's such a big deal. Dude. The, that audience is like the craziest supporters ever. It is. Like when they're down for something, they're down for something. Yeah. I mean, so I've just been like research and figuring out all the top e-sports teams

and like Spain and in Mexico and then, you know, Latin America and stuff. That's been really cool. And then I'm trying to figure out how we can use the optic model and to like branch into like Spanish content. Because we have, we have Sebas, we have George. We have Hector. We have tombs. You know, you. And Shotsie kind of.

He said, Shotsie said, I can understand 30% of it. And I was like, that's better. That's more than me. That's enough more. So I think it's just, it's just too, too big of an opportunity to not try it. And so that, that's what, that's what I've been working on right now. There's, um, there's so many Spanish, like, soccer players or something that I was like, no, I never heard it.

Like, I know, I've heard of, like, Ronaldo or, like, the biggest names. Yeah. But it'll be, like, some random guy and he has, like, 80 million followers. I'm just like, what the? Oh, yeah. This is the biggest sport in the world. By far the biggest sport. Yeah.

I love it. The World Cup's coming up, too? You gotta watch the World Cup. Is the regular... I don't even know how soccer works. Is there one league? No. Like, there's not an NFL for soccer?

No. There's a bunch of different NFLs. Okay. It's actually, it's pretty crazy. So there's the top league in Spain, the top league... or yeah the top league the top spanish league the top european league the top french league you know what i mean and those are like considered the cream and the crop leagues are all of all those leagues over there now how much viewership do they do say like the spanish league like is their viewership crazy yes

like is there viewership for just the god i like just the regular matches regular season matches. Yeah. Is that more than like our NFL? Yeah. Like by far. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think a regular match for the Spanish soccer league? I bet people would know about this. They're like cringing. I mean, it's just that's just, but people don't. Do you think their regular season matches are like our Super Bowl as far as viewership? I'm not sure. I can look it up. But dude, it, the World Cup final is, I want to look that up Soccer, viewership, or I guess football.

What's the World Cup compared to what's under the world, like, the most viewed events ever, I guess World Cup's number one. Yeah. I wonder, what's number two?

I wonder what like the list of most viewed events are. Like I wonder if it goes World Cup and then it just drastically drops to like number two super bowl so the world cup final got 500 in around i guess i don't know about it's a million 540 million viewers uh for the dude and this the super bowl got 140 to put it into perspective okay i guess it's not it's not as bad as i thought it was still like four four times as much that's still crazy but i mean this that is the biggest i wonder what

I wonder where like the Olympics like stack up. Like what are other like huge? I don't know if Olympics if. I bet you know. Ever since Usain Bolt retired. Like no one gives us a fuck no more. Like there was Michael Phelps or it's Hussein Bolt. You don't really.

I wonder if it's different. I mean, it's definitely is different in different countries, but I wonder if it's like some like countries just go ham for the Olympics. Like that's, they just love it. I bet you, I bet you there's something,

some people out there. Soccer's weird to me. because maybe it's just growing up in the United States or like Maryland, West Virginia area. Like no one played soccer. Really? I mean, people played soccer, but like I didn't know of them.

And like they just, there was like football and basketball. And those were like, I guess the popular kids. But like no one talked about soccer. No one watched soccer. So I was just like so surprised said it's so big but i guess literally everywhere else in the world soccer's the thing yeah the

same way that that's what i try to explain to because we have a i have a lot of like english viewers like from that whole area and i i try to explain to them like okay yeah do you make fun of their breakfast all the time i do yeah all the time like if you're you can go on with it i was gonna dive into like me shitting on me i try to explain to them like the like the The way that they have like, because they have like little futsal courses or like, uh, courses like like fields or pitches.

I don't know how to call it. And then they have soccer fields everywhere. Like the same way you guys have that, we have basketball goals everywhere. And like there, so do you know what futsal is? It's like, it's like,

it's like soccer with a heavier ball on like concrete. And then there's like, uh, and there's like goals on that's, they like mini goals. Yeah, tiny little goals. And it's like,

so you can be technical. and like, you know, play with the ball and stuff. And they're everywhere in the world. Really? But here, I had to Google, I had to Google where the nearest one was. Wait, isn't there one right across from us? No. Oh, no.

That's just an indoor field. So that has like turf and stuff. No, but there's like literally right across. Oh, outside? Yeah, outside. There's like a, yeah. That one's on grass. I went over there.

Oh, it's on grass. Yeah. I tried to get into that, but they padlocked. I walked I walked over there just being a weirdo I'm just walking around on grass and shit I did too and I was like what the hell is this thing it's like a little soccer field indoor field yeah an indoor outdoor field but I try to explain

it's outdoor but like what is it like caged up? Yeah it's caged we so like we would have to find we would have to we'd have to Google where the nearest like place to play I mean there's a bunch of outdoor fields but those Outdoor fields are also used for like American football or like other stuff. And like also in order to find a game, in order to watch a soccer game that's not an MLS game, like the English league, the American League, dude, it's like impossible. You said to find one? To find one.

Like on T-Oach one. Like some people are like, what's your favorite championship team or a team from the championship, which is like the second division? and it's still extremely popular. The second division. In England. Okay. So it's like, you know, like if Manchester, you've heard of Manchester United,

if they're like the Yankees of that, then there's like teams that still a bunch of people watch that are kind of equivalent to like how FC Dallas is here. So a bunch of people still go. But if I wanted to watch one of those games, if I wanted to watch one of those games, I wouldn't even know how to find it. it. Like, you'd have to

Google it or rip it from a stream or something. But if you're in like another country, it's just like building with TV. Yeah. And so like people are like the same way we talk about basketball, it's like man, the Lakers didn't make it this year. Man like Kyrie's playing his lights his hard out. That's how they talk about soccer all the time. We're just like you want to come over watch the game? Yeah. Like we can't even find unless it's like. Would you be watching

the hell out of it if you could find it? Yeah, it's hard to keep up. It's It's hard to keep up because, so like there's club soccer and then there's nation soccer. So club soccer, it's like that's when they, it's like Ronaldo plays for, you know, Manchester United. And then, so there's Manchester United. That shit's confusing. It's so confusing. Then Manchester United will play in their regular season, but they'll also play in a separate tournament where they play against all the teams. And that's called the Champions League.

But Ronaldo is also playing for Portugal at the same time. It's literally, it's nonstop. Is this like three different like parts of the year? No. Or is he on three teams at once just flying everywhere? He's on two teams, but in like four different league, in like four different competitions at once. So he'll play in the World Cup qualifier. Then he'll play in the World Cup.

And he'll play in the Champions League. Then he'll play in the regular, you know, European League, you know, just regular season. Is there a season for soccer? Yeah. Like, Renato gets a break? Or is he just always playing soccer somewhere in some league? I'm sure, it just seems like they're always playing. I'm sure there are breaks.

But it's not like, it's not like an off season like we have or like our sports have. Dude, I looked it up in the Champions League final, which this, which is, that is like the Super Bowl. It's like the biggest clubs in the world and whoever wins. Last year got 700 million viewers. More in the World Cup. More than the World Cup. It's what this article says. Dude, 700.

That's almost one seventh of the planet. That can't be right. I mean like 700 mil. How many people do we got like seven bill? I don't. I couldn't tell you. It's probably like a tenth of the population. How many?

I don't know. I failed algebra too. I just look at world population. it's so funny we got from this for just talking about oh yeah what are you going to do with the you want like more spanish creators 8 billion uh yeah i would say so 8 billion i would say like yeah Spanish i mean it would be cool to tap into like the actual space but also just kind of utilize just the outreach that optic has towards spanish speaking

countries. Plus I think it would be I think it would be cool to like because I want to I want to make it where our audience can also watch so like if we do a trivia video or something with Hector and Tooms and we translate it in English than like you know like English subtitles in the bottom like our audience can still watch it and get like a lot of entertainment out of it but also it's made for that scene I think it's I think I'm excited when you look at what you're doing for our optic now? Are you thinking like 30, 20, 30 or like 10 to 20 years down the road? Like where like this is only going to keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and it's like how can we? Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking, but I, I'm just right now I'm kind of thinking five years down the road. Just because. I mean. So you're not Elon Musk? Because he's thinking like 48 years down the road. Well, I'm still trying to get over the last three years. The last three years have been to fucking hell So like now that we're finally moving forward

That's dope But I don't want to get like too over one I still wanna I'm still in like fixing mode Kind of Yeah I'm just kind of like in hey like You know

Thank you guys for supporting us While we went through hell We're gonna try to get everything back on track And then once everything's back on track Then I'll start looking like 10 years down the line It seems like it was I guess it wasn't too long ago

that like I guess this was kind of like a shit show like I guess it's sort of just recently changed but I was in like my I was in my own fucking universe and like and I was with the mutineers at one time so I wonder when I was

with the mutineers like what was going on like I wonder if like I don't know I don't know like what was going on but as far as optic the infinite back to hex to optic all that transition.

Infinite to energy to the Huntsman. We were optic optic. Then we moved here. Then it was like infinite optic. Then Immortal's optic. And then. And then no optic. Damn, there really wasn't.

Because I went straight from immortal optic to mutineers. And I went from Immortal optic to the Huntsman. Yeah. And then he got, and then you came onto the Huntsman. Then he got optic back. Then you disappeared.

And then the optic whenever you were disappeared and we whenever you disappeared and we had optic, it still wasn't opt. It was still wasn't optic. Yeah. I mean it was, but it would like, we couldn't move forward because it was still just Hector doing everything. And there was all this other shit happening that like they had to figure out. So then it is so then it is optic optic and then the merger happens. So now we're finally on an even playing field with everyone else. It's like. That's what's happened in three years. I feel like I hear the term fake money throwing around all the time. It's like how do some of these other orgs have... Is it like they just get lucky with a multi-malti, multi-millionaire or billionaire investor? Yeah. And to where he's like, well, I won't even really notice if this 50 mill is gone. I don't know if it's like that or it's like how...

Like who's willing to take a risk on what, you know, what org or... Because I feel like if I was an invest, I don't know, maybe I just see it because I'm in Optic, but I feel like optic phase and maybe 100 thieves are like, I feel like that's the only like orgs I'd hear about. But I'm also not into like PC games. So I'm sure like TSM are like orgs like that. It just depends on your lane. Like if you're if you love like, like, the legend. And my lane right now all I see is Optic phase and 100 thieves.

Yeah. But I'm sure in other lanes, all they see is TSM Cloud 9 and. That's your signals. That's like your space. It all has it because like there are people in L.A. There are people in L.A. who have who are in the gaming space and never even heard of Optic. They've heard of they've heard of 100 Thieves. They've heard of OTP.

They've heard of offline TV. And like that's their whole. Wait, what's OatK? OTK is like rich. Campbell, Jay Schlat, like... Rich Campbell. That whole scene.

Sounds familiar. Like, yeah, he used to be a called duty caster. Then he went content creator and he blew up. Really? Yeah. I gotta fucking Google him. See, and you never, so you never heard of OTP? See, that's wild. Really? Yeah, that's, that is crazy.

And it's the same, same type of thing. Yeah, where if like someone didn't hear of optic, I'd be like, huh? You're like, you never heard of optic? Like, if, if someone, says they're like indie gaming or like they're in the esports scene and they haven't heard of optic i'm like yeah so you're not really in the eastport yeah but they could just be like a starcraft they love starcraft yeah and it's like we've never even touched that community or they

love super smash brothers like say the smash scene never heard of optic i remember like talking with mango way back in the day and i was like yeah i work for optic thinking he was going to be like oh shit and he was like that's that's cool and i was like wait wait and then i have to like show him nature show himself like no like look like these trust me it's like I work with these guy and he's like oh shit and that's like

that's how it goes and in uh in kind of gaming in general yeah what was the house I went to one of my friends was on uh some org I don't know if it was like it might have been TSM

but I was just like in LA and I like visited his house and it was it was like a gaming house for like TSM PC players. I don't know what they played. Yeah. But they were all like Korean and it was just like a totally different like atmosphere. Yeah, like vibe. Like I don't know what they're playing.

Like never heard of them. But it's like they are huge. They're huge. That's how I mean, Paige used to page talks about all the time because she used to work. Oh yeah. Where she came from. She was like, I love them. I love them.

She was like, but they didn't speak English. Then I'm like, how the fuck did that work? She was the team before she did this. They were so sweet. I love them. But they didn't speak English. So it's like, were they nice to you? Before that she moved up in energy,

she was the team manager for the shock. So that's, and they're all Korean. Like, think of, uh, all of pages. Think of her family,

her friends. How the fuck did she get? She's like a, I want to say from L.A., but she's from the Bay. Yeah. Uh, like how the fuck did she,

I think she's told me before but it's just like crazy that she landed in the gaming world and even like chose this route yeah she chose when she chose the optic route yeah because she was thinking about to move out here

yeah she was thinking about going to like the Lakers I think because she was she had a job she had a job lined up with the I could be bullshing but I believe she told me she was work she was going to do something with the Lakers or she could always do something with

Selena but she was like she when she first moved out here she was like oh i like how you guys like work because roger picked her up from the airport and she was like that's just so cool that like you're so personable to pick me up in the airport and i and thank bro shout out roger thank god he picked her up from the airport page is the best pickup optics had since fucking maybe the best pickup in e-sports there's not a page anywhere else yeah i mean there's no there probably is but not like not like page there ain't nobody fucking with page. And she's doing all this on one leg right now.

Yeah, she's the goat. She's such a different, because she's, I feel like all of us gamers in Optic are like, kind of similar in a way of like, not anti-social, but like, we don't walk in a room. Like, hey, hi, hey. And she, like, came into our space and, like, brought that energy. And it was like, we were, uh, we went to, what is it called, PFL pro fighting. league last night. Oh yeah. What was that?

And she's just like meeting all the like owners. Hi. And she's like and they're like which one's page or like some or any of you page? She's like yeah. It's just like wow. This is like a totally different. Yeah. Type of personality to be in optic. Yeah.

Especially for like, wait, do you have a sister? You do have a sister. Yeah. I have an older half sister. Yeah. How I see it is like, there's a little. but the way that I that a lot of us interact with her is like I feel like a it's like for those of us that have never had sisters that's kind of like what it's like but like I guess one that's like

like likes I don't know what one that like you I'm sure like there's brothers and sisters that like get on each other's nerves but it's not like that it's more of just like somebody that you're just like hey I need help with this she's like I know I know if I'm like for some reason I feel like she's turned into the person where if it's if it's like if I'm a depressed or maniac I'm tired of fucking you talking about fucking depa but if I'm like depressed or like whatever and I'm like I should like get out of the house like I know I can like go to pages apartment oh yeah yeah or like be like hey what do you guys want to do and she's always yeah she's like yeah how was you tax her and say mall she's like yeah I love your page voice yeah how was the fighting thing

we got to see someone knocked out damn it was it's were you on optic or did you go with us when we went to some MMA fight out long but we had like it was like shitty seats

Holly Holmes was there oh really yeah yeah I was like yeah I was like yeah but this time we were like front row so it was like a when they kick

like you hear the thong or like the smack and it was like damn like it was like it was like seeing a street fight to where you're like oh shit like damn this looks like it hurts but you're seeing that fucking

up close and professional fighters it's fucking crazy man and they're all fucking saying to me I can see you in there sometime I'm like I would like these guys are fucking barbaric animals and that's the

that's the that's not MMA that's like under It's like, what, pro fighting league, right? Yeah, I guess it's, yeah, it's like a step under UFC or whatever. Yeah, the UFC, sorry. What, um, I would, dude, some of the, like, like, they'd be, like, in a clinch, like, holding each other. And, like, one of them would just knee, the other person's knee.

And I'm like, God, like, that would, like, getting kicked in your knee. Like, it feels like such a, like, not sensitive, but, like, that's just not a place you want kicked and, like, bend your leg, weird. weird and it's like how the like how do they feel is their body just fucking dude sore as fuck after a fight like when you go after you like i've always wondered how how do they like like i know you can work out your muscles get your muscles bigger get them lean or get them get them stronger but how do you work out your bones like i think it's just like sparring fighting getting thrown around like i guess your body just like your bones like your bones are gonna drink milk

they just drink milk every morning yeah I don't know I guess I guess your body just starts getting used to fucking like some people kick bamboo trees like which are like some strong ass trees and I don't know but there's like videos of like taekwondo fighters who they like punch in kick

like they just like practice to like toughen their shin up they like practice kicking bamboo trees. I mean, that's sort of like old school. But even like sometimes they'll kick each other in the face like and they'll they'll like front kick you like fucking toe like

aren't you afraid of like breaking your fucking toe? Like they just don't give them. Yeah. I am scared. But I guess if they're they'll trade a broken toe to break someone else's nose dude what a life. And they just get off on that stuff. What a life. You got to think that what the top 1% of people that do this

are actually doing this for a full-time job. So there's a bunch of people out there that just train- Not making shit, but just love it. Train their ass off. And they're working, you know, like a corporate job or they're working, you know, a retail job. And then at nighttime, they just go and beat the fuck out of somebody.

There was, um, I think Joe Rogan interviewed a guy who worked full-time as a farmer. Okay. Which is like a hard labor job, hard fucking, long days like whatever farmers do i kind of have an idea because i grew up in west virginia for a while but yeah he was a full-time like farmer and he like fought as well and like he did that for years and years and years before he like ever started making money then he got like good and then he started he went like pro or whatever then he could finally like stop farming or like at least hire someone

else to do his farming and it's just like i guess people really love this shit but like I don't know I never it was never like a inclination of mine to start doing that like that's like it's like not a normal

outlet to choose just fucking getting into a fist fight and there's like bare knuckle brawls have you ever seen those on YouTube where it's just bare knuckle like it's a MMA fight but they're just bare knuckle oh it's like regulated

but they're like yeah it's not like there's like a well it'll a lot of time it'll be like on the dirt in like a backyard and they'll just they'll do some ghetto circle around it and it's just but it's like regulated it's not like the cambo slice days where there's just two guys in a backyard no no it's regulated oh okay um like there's like there's like a raff and there's it's like a circle area and they like they it looks like they're in the ufc but they're just bare knuckle in like the punches just sound like they hit so different with that shit and it'll have like

40,000 views or like 10,000 views and I'm like these guys... They're just doing it for the love. Yeah, they just fucking love it. Dude, that is what I wanted to say earlier this is completely random, but how are we talking about like how did Page

land in this space? Have we is I don't want to say that name well I'll say the name maybe Mac can cut it out but Ellie isn't it crazy how this guy that's gonna be like I don't know are we gonna announce him or something like can I think he's just gonna work with I mean he'll probably yeah it's not it's not it doesn't matter for like we're gonna get this guy Ellie Ellie from Canada yeah gonna move down here and he's like uh I guess like a photographer he's like all around career all around like he's he's being

hired as a photographer, but he's more of just like a... Make shit look dope. Yeah. Make optic dope. In all aspects. Yeah. Probably even like clothes. Like I told him like...

Yeah. Like, yeah, you gotta help me out with some clothes. Yeah, yeah. Because he's always swaggy. But it's like he had offers from like... I feel weird like telling other people's business like this. But he had offers from like Yeezy and like some other shit like that. And that were you.

gonna like pay him crazy but it's like he for some reason is like falling into our gaming space i think i think page is a good job of like talking about how dope this is which i think it's real i think what we do is super dope and i think i'm like scared of page to stop thinking it's dope and like go back to la oh it's terrifying oh it's terrifying we can't have that but it's like if hex used to be the glue, pages to glue. Like, like, I think this is like, I think what we do is, is really dope and I, and I know that there are a few people out there. I love it when they can see the potential, like, of what we can do. Like, like, like, every once, like, because we've been, we've been running, we've

been running on fumes for, like, two years. And so I feel like people have gotten used to, like, used to that but like now that we aren't it's gonna get I think it's gonna get crazy and I'm so excited about it but like we're hiring more people that have the same vision that we do

and we got you know we got Austin's in the office we got Shawston yeah we got Shawston both Austin's I mean we've and then Ellie's coming and we also have like other people coming and it's like that's so I mean I that's really

especially people that understand the space. Austin's been working, he was in Soar, he's been, he's been working out. Yeah, it's a hoodie signed by formal. Does he? Yeah. I think, uh, I think Paige told me that he was, and he was wearing it in the office. Oh, no. Yeah.

We have to talk to him about that. And I was like, people, first off, if I had something signed, like, I'm probably not wearing it. Probably not going to wear it. But I told that to Hex and Hex was like, what do you, what do you fucking mean? I'd fucking, it's like, uh, Virgil Ablo, something. your shoes like and you know you really want to flex you wear them and I'm like well I wouldn't

like if I either like looked up to someone and got their autograph like I'm not fucking wearing that yeah but it is kind of funny though if I know if I got like a guitar sign by a I don't know like I would not play it it would be it would sit there for the rest

of ever it was funny because she like specifically told me that formal signature was on there he was just wearing it that is hilarious I thought I don't know if I met him before but he's just going to be like another editor yeah just all around producer

shoots edits helps with creative and uh and he he used to work he worked at scuff for a long time so he did all like the all the photos and the videos at scuff so he knows he knows the space and then uh ellie worked at ticot and so he knows the whole like vertical space

really really well I want to I'm talking to him about like getting a place but also Paige Roger and Ellie were like talking about getting a place and I was like man I want to what about me but he could potentially potentially yeah the Optic Team House me Roger Page and Ellie they're just like what no there is not going to be any content coming out of there. But I look at it like there's a side of me that, or there's something they all have that I don't have.

And I'm like, I want to like surround, like, sort of like in a businessy way. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or it's like, you know, they plan shit. They write shit down. They fucking have shit to organize. And I just think like for me, it'd be, it might be good to like live with people like that.

To be in that environment. Even though living by my, living, I like living by myself because I can do whatever the fuck I want to do. You'll never go back to living with people, huh? Nope. Not unless she's redheaded. No.

I'm good. Yeah. I kind of felt like that for a while too. But now that I've been single for a little bit, I'm like, you know what? The saint, like having a girlfriend, I love having my own place. But like, not having a girlfriend,

and I don't think I'm going to have a girlfriend for a long time because I feel like there's just like I'm at my I'm at a place right now where it's like I need to like really

your sexual peak no oh sorry what were you saying like business wise oh business life I'm like all right I'm like totally free I have free time

I can do like what is my what am I gonna do what's your next step yeah what's let's figure out I don't know figure out something for me

yeah And, yeah, I feel like just this particular time in my life is like, I'm gonna, I really need to figure shit out. Yeah. But, I mean, I think you're on the right track. You already, we've already talked more about, like, cool shit that you want to do. Mm-hmm. And, like. Ever.

Yeah, than ever. I made more. Besides, like, vlogs and stuff. Back of the day. Yeah. You would play vlogs out. Drugs are fucking, I've, I've literally, like, I said. at my camera or my kitchen counter because I it's like those nightly motivated like how you always

get motivated when it's fucking when you're about to fall asleep and I always think like God I feel like I have so much to like ramble about like I want to I don't know just like stuff that I feel like I could talk to the camera and like the gaming community or like my audience would enjoy like I've thought about it multiple times but I definitely but it's I'm like, do I want to do it like that? Or do I want to make a like a dope series? Like what you said earlier of like record all these videos and figure it out. Like I want to I want to plan it out.

I want to organize it. But it's like I've been such a just a fucking crackhead that I never I never dove into something like this. Like I don't know. It's like where do I start? Yeah. Because I I'm not going to be. I'm not trying to record myself and like edit it myself and do all that. So it's like I need to figure it out because that was also like old school ways of doing it.

Now it's like you don't see a sort of you don't really see a banging video or like a popular creator or an idea that's really booming without it like there's a cameraman. He's fucking following. There's a dope editor that knows what he's fucking doing. There's some people out there. Yeah. I mean, there's definitely. But then there are Mr. Beast type. But for like my, I guess for my vision, I just, I see it as like a, like I need a cameraman.

I need an editor. Then I don't know. I'm just trying to. I think you want to make like a production now. That's how I, that's how I see it at least. What do you mean by production? Like the fitness thing, right? Yeah.

Yeah. I think you want to make like a. I wanted to be almost. be almost vloggy. Oh, do you? But not vloggy, but like, like there's going to be times where,

you know, I'm going to get my little rants about like this and that. And there might be a time where I'm like, all right, just give me the camera. I'll give it to you tomorrow morning and like I'll maybe sit down

with the camera. But I want it to be just like very, just look as like, I guess professionally made as I can. Okay. So you don't want to do like, you don't want to emulate like a, insanity or something.

No, fuck no. No, is that what you think? That's where I was thinking. Do you think that would work? I think it would work? Yo, let me know in the comments below, would me doing something like a P-90- I don't want to fucking do that.

P-90X? Yeah, like a meat in front of the fucking camera. Like, come on. Come on. That's what I was thinking like. No, I don't want to do that. Oh, okay, then don't do that. Yeah, no, I don't want to do that.

But do you do you, I think, I feel like there. There could be certain episodes in the series that could be like that. Yeah. I also, the gym I go to, Karma Fitness, I'm going to get one of the instructors to, like, lead a full, like, hour, full body workout for, like, maybe one episode a week or something. Maybe to, like, end the week on.

It's going to be, like, a full body instructor. And then, like, you know, I'm going to be on camera. But besides that, it's going to be. I think like shorter videos. I mean, probably over 10 minutes just to get the, you know, more ads. No, I'm kidding. But like, it's not going to be that long of videos.

I think it's going to be, I'd say anywhere from like 8 to 15 minutes. You're calling it shit to fit? I want to, but I stole that from a YouTuber. But it's so perfect of a name. Shit to fit is so good. Yeah. I really like that name.

But I could probably, I don't think he did, I don't think he has like a series on it. So I might be able to steal it. He's just like set it in a video. Oh. I've also stole my outro. People don't know that. Who did you steal it from? This guy, Christian Guzman.

He was like, you guys, if you, fuck, what was my YouTube outro? If you, I always, I keep wanting to say, if you enjoy the stream, support the stream. Because you only stream now. Yeah, because I only stream now. What the fuck was my outro? Like, comment, subscribe. It really does help the channel grow. And something, something, something.

But I heard him say that one time. And I was like, he's like, that's mine. Yeah. I'm going to be using that now. Do you enjoy the vlog? Dude, the vlog days, man. Those were some good.

It's weird. It was such. It was the men of. Would those kind of vlogs work now, though? No. Well, no. They wouldn't. We just don't live in the same environment.

I don't think anybody really does. I mean, they just got so oversaturated. I think. Yeah. Now it's like you have to have a purpose for every video. Yeah. If you want to, if you want to vlog like that. People are like, man, you should vlog.

No, it doesn't matter if you don't do. You're hilarious. But it's like, I can make one of those videos, but it's like, then what? I'm going to make the same. The same type of video. Like my videos are pretty, or my days are pretty fucking similar. Like, there's not. Yeah.

There ain't much new shit. Like, it's not like I'm the fucking knelt boys going out to this club in Miami, this club of Miami, fucking, yeah, I don't think vlogs are. It's just wild that we got to live through that. I mean, like. And a lot of people were doing those type of vlogs. Like, dude, there were so many. Everyone must try.

Everyone wanted, uh, what camera should I get the Sony Mark 4 or the, uh, what a 7X? The like daily, yeah, A7-H-H-Hs. The daily vlogs were like the meta in like 2014, 2015. That was what people did. Like they watched Casey Nistat. They watched like Fun for Louis. They watched all these dudes that like vlog, or Jesse Wellens. Yeah.

They watched, they were like, that was the shit. When you watch other people's vlogs and they like have certain shots of like walking away or like something like. that. Do you always think like nowadays? Nowadays. Nowadays I'm like okay. Yeah. I like it's so, that was 2014 in my opinion. That's how I see it. But I just look at it now knowing they sat the camera there, then they walked back and then they started walking towards the camera. So it like ruins the shot for me. Yeah. But maybe if you never dove into this space, you would be like, you wouldn't even think about it like that. Yeah. It's like a dope shot. It wouldn't like really think. I mean, I'm sure everyone understands

that that's what happens, but like, but until you've sat the camera up, hit record, walked away, walked back, got the camera to hit on record. I used to love watching you do that. Oh, do to set up a shot. Yeah. You like set it up while get in the Jeep,

you know, like back out somewhere of the driveway. Stop at the end of the driveway, run back up. Dude, those were the, those were the day. It was fun. It was fun to be in.

the YouTube scene during that time. Like, even like I've lost... That's crazy the views we get on some of them. Dude. Because like, when I first started watching YouTube, the meta was live commentaries. You, you play a video game and you talk over it. And that was like,

that was like different level of content that had ever been made in like human history, in my opinion. It's just like, I'm watching Hutch play Monorfer 2 when he talks about, you know, something like something random like literally something completely random but it's just over mono for two game player

and it's like I fell in love with that shit and that blew up I think I made a few of those live comp I'm sure everyone did only like one or two though and I think it like actually like went really well and I was like you know what this might be my thing but Lord knows what fucking happened

and then I just stopped stopped fucking everything That was like even before face cams and then I remember face cams came into play Like C-Ner started doing face cams and then I was like oh and then you so then you start what And then streaming comes in that's just like and I missed all those waves of actually doing it but like the vlog like I actually vlog And like I watched vlogs I'd yeah we were in it That was we were in it at its peak That was dude those days were so wild that that optic run I think I think I think I think

that's the crazy I mean obviously I'm biased as fuck as fuck but that run from like 2014 2013 to 2017 is crazy that optic run is crazy like nade shot comes out of that set comes out of that we like we break crazy viewerships in blackups two and then the two x games gold medals and then we win a c s major like there's a bunch of just shit that happens smooth comp like just on some different two two big huge houses like that like that are like staples you know in in like cod history people literally like go like if they're from that area like they're like visit the house visit the house i think that i mean it's just crazy but like i said this a while ago i think nostalgia is kind of scary to me like when it comes when people think

I don't want people to see the optic logo and be like, man, that's nostalgic. And I feel like, you know, because of the past three years, we scarily, like, flirted with that line. But now, now coming back to it, now that we have more teams and we have, like, a plan. Because if something's nostalgic, it's like, it's no longer. Right. It's no longer. I don't want an optic to be nostalgic, you know? Even though there's a lot of nostalgia from different moments, the same way that, like, the Faze like New York House and stuff

I'm sure it's nostalgic for a lot of people because a lot of content came out of that house but Faze as an org is not a nostalgic like they're crushing you know what I mean damn Optic almost was almost was and I think right now we're at a you know the best state we've been in a long time what would be amazing is if

Hax sat down with someone from Infinite and was like or maybe not even Hax because I feel like hex would be biased, but if someone could sit down with someone from Infinite, it'd be like, what was happening behind the scenes?

I'd watch. I'd watch it. I'd watch. Because I don't think anyone really knows. Like, as far as, like, you know, people basically through all the blame on Jay. So it's like, I kind of want to sit down with Jay. Or I don't want to sit down with them just because I wouldn't want to do that. Yeah.

I mean, I don't, I don't have anything against Jay. But it's just like, I would like to watch someone else sit down with Jay and just have Jay do like a tell-all. Yeah. And be like, what happened? So, and be like, okay, so all the content creators, whatever, the producers, they were all saying like, okay, we need to do this and that. Is it true?

You guys weren't listening to them at all? And like hear some truth about like, what? like what the fuck was i bet you a lot a lot of stuff he would say he would say would make sense because i mean he got i i think he got put in a bad spot i mean yeah he chose he chose a side in a sense he chose a fucking side but like he was put in a really really rough spot yeah but but a lot of people in infinite were a lot of people were putting a rough spot because dude the optic part aside they were just chucking money at the wall Like there were so many side companies the same way that Optic,

optic, it was infinite and Optic was seen as like one little branch of Infinite. And then there were like 40 others. And the only one that like succeeded was it was called Engage. And that was what built the Eastport Stadium. Like Corey and them, like built the Eastport Stadium. And then they did their own thing. And then that's when like Eastport Stadium, Arlington became a thing.

And then two years later, we have it again. It's so weird. This whole, it was a, definitely a weird time. Yeah, no, there's no way to know any other org went through that. Or like, I want to,

I want, the crazy shit. Ever, like, talked about. The crazy shit is everyone, or like, not everyone, like,

there's a group of people that, like, blame X for that whole thing. And it's like, yeah, you should have sold. It's like, every,

pick up, pick an org, pick an e-sports org. Dave sold. Whoever you're thinking about, Dave sold. I was shining. Every single one.

They've all sold. B.T.H. Except for BTAH. So it's... No one wants to buy. They're trying to. They're trying to sell. So it's like, how the fuck are you going to blame?

So we happen to get the one that goes extremely wrong. Imagine if phase sells to their people and they're like, we should drop all of the phase creators. Like, that was the situation we were in. And like... I wish courage. never left. We lost courage because of that. We lost courage.

And I remember he was, he was like talking to me at an event. It was like one of, one of his last, either his last event that he was casting at or like he was visiting. And he was like, dude, I'm excited. He was like, how are things over there?

It was me and Hector, and me and Hector looked at each other. We were like, this is before he joined. Oh, really? He was like, dude, but he was already like being signed. And he was like, dude, I'm so pumped.

It's like, how is it over there? And I just wanted, and I was like, you know, hopefully, hopefully it gets better by the time you join. But it was all, everything was already just such a shit show. I remember feeling uncomfortable with how comfortable was when he joined because like he joined, he joined. He was blowing up and he was just like, we do this, do this, let's do this, make this video. and I was I think I was just in a like man I wish we would have like clutched up

and kept him but I was I feel like I was in like a such bad state that it was just like I don't know it was like I looked at him in a way in like a little negative of a way did you? I mean he he

and like I like courage I've no courage forever yeah I love courage his you know his content's amazing Yeah. But it was like... I can understand that. He was like...

He joined and then it was like, boom, he's the big dog. See, what... He brought a new... And it made me uncomfortable. He brought a new perspective. Because I'm a pussy. He brought a new perspective to content for me. Because how we always did content in Optic was, hey, we're doing smooth comp tomorrow.

Be awake by noon and hopefully we'll shoot around like 1.30. And it's like whenever you're blowing up the way, because the way, like, if you're in that, you know, following Ninja to blow up, which is what all those guys did, like, Ninja was streaming twice a day and taking a lunch break and he was streaming for 12 hours a day.

So it's like you're on a schedule. Like you have to, you have to be live by three. Yeah. I think like courage would like be annoyed if someone's late or like be annoyed if like something wasn't happening. like because we weren't organized like that and it was like it was sloppy.

We had never been organized. We're still, I mean, we're way more organized than we were then. We're way more organized now than we were in the scuff house because it was just like me knocking you guys doors at 8 p.m.

But, but Roger was telling me, he was like, Jack is a machine. At 100 thieves. Yeah. It was. Because Roger works at 100 thieves.

He was like, if, if there was a, shoot for 12 it was at 1158 you'd see jack round the corner that like every single content shoot day yeah and he was like he would he would get and he would get mad at 100 thieves too like if they're big creators i think including even need he would say if they didn't show up he'd be like dude like i i i want to be here and i want to shoot this i want everything to be set up and then i want to leave yeah because i got my own shit and i i mean i i had never thought of it that i i inspired to be more like that and that's why i was said like i want to i probably wouldn't mind

living with like a page roger ellie because they are more that type of person and i've was i am and definitely was the complete opposite and that's why like it made me uncomfortable with it with jack yeah yeah but like i don't i don't think he knew no no no i remember you telling me the time absolutely i have absolutely no problem with jack i love jack i would like i would love to see jack again i think i saw him not too long ago at uh the boat has house party or something oh yeah yeah um but yeah he was a he was a he was a he was a he was a he was a different vibe he was just a fucking horse he was just a workhorse and you know i'm just cracked out on adie i'm getting no sleep yeah yeah i'm trying to like you know i'm thinking of any way possible to get out of content to like

i don't feel good i'm sick again or like some shit like that and like i you know we did to Yeah. We knew he was getting annoyed with shit. Yeah. But we definitely, we just fucking. He was getting annoyed for different reasons than you guys were getting annoyed. Yeah. And then me on the other side, it's like, I'm like, dude, so I get basically fired from the content team that I'm showing up to content as talent.

And like, none of the shit is set up and none of it's right. And it's breaking. Everything's breaking. And I'm like, I'm pissed at that. And Jack, I think Jack was more pissed at that than he was at, like, than talent not showing up or showing. up late because if talent doesn't show up you can still make the shit work like if it's a 3v3 video and three people are dropping into fortnight and it's you jack and set and set doesn't show up you can still do twos but if the actual PS4s don't work the whole thing is chalked and then

jack's like well if we can't shoot this in the next 30 minutes i'm lea yeah sometimes you can definitely improvise but not really on the production side not if the hardware doesn't work i can't believe me and a jack have a that fortnight to be two video what the fuck like what algorithm did that hit dude i that is not that good of a video i got so dude that is the most that's to me that video of youtube is the most satisfying video on youtube to me because because this is when there was so much this is i don't know if i've ever said this on camera this is there was so much backlash and turmoil between me personally and the corporate side of Infinite because they they I bad I was such a bitch back then I badmouthed the shit out of everything that was happening because I hated it so

much and then they were like you know what we put faith in our content team and like stuff like that and I'm like to the content team that you guys have like they're they might be nice people or whatever but they haven't ever worked inside of like the optic culture so like they don't understand it and I promise you I understand it very well so I told Joe Lane no scope Joe I told him I was like here's here's a video you guys need to do Jack who is blowing up right now and Nick who is you were putting in mad hours you guys should play he guys should have them play console like on PS4 and I think it would be I think it would be funny or on Xbox at the time because like console it just become a thing and whatever. And he was like, okay, I'll do it. And then that video took off. And then I remember him being like, dude, the, the, the head, the heads of infinite congratulated me.

And then I was like, yeah, that was Hitch's idea. And he said, their faces just dropped. And they were pissed. And I was like that. And I remember being like so satisfied. Don't worry, man. I got you. I actually weirdly remember.

like showing up that day and like sort of recording that video and I I don't think I slept the night before showed up cracked out but I mean the gameplay doesn't show it because never played on controller before but yeah actually like kind of remember that memory dude think about all the different like spaces we've had since moving to Dallas like we had that we had that first place where like everyone hated you know what I'm talking about like with all the with all the offices and stuff. Yeah. And then we had that place where you shot that,

which was in like a garage thing. Which is kind of like this place. Then we have, I mean, this place, the hex quarters. But we also had the house, the B team house, which was like where the Gears of War team played. Do you remember that? Yeah, I forgot about that. And then we had the house that we all lived at.

And then there was also, it wasn't the Optic B team that wasn't was that a different house than the Gears the same house? The same house.

Oh, that was the same house. Yeah, yeah, I think that was the same house. I believe so. Unless like, you're talking about like Hypoch and so. Yeah. Unless they, they live somewhere else. Well, we never did any content or anything.

Yeah, we didn't do. But yeah, the Gears house. Holy shit. That's crazy. It's been a, it has not been stable until recently. And I feel like we're stable again, and it's like, holy shit.

Now things are getting dangerous again. I'm excited. Yeah. I'm excited where... Now all I have to do is learn Spanish. What's the easiest way to learn Spanish in two months? Put on headphones, go to sleep and listen to... What's that shit called?

When I wake up, I'm just like, Buenos Aires. What's the fucking book or not book, but like the audio thing that everyone listens to? It's like super popular To learn a new language Rosetta Stone Rosetta Stone I think Yeah Yeah

Yeah just put that on You go to sleep and you'll wake up like I feel like that Rosetta Stone shit is a scam Might not be Maybe maybe just I don't know if anyone's If anyone learned Spanish What's the what's the easiest way to learn Spanish?

I want to know how many people out there Have learned Spanish without living in Spain or Mexico Or somewhere that speaks Spanish Like how many people people sit down, listen to an audio book or whatever, and they come out after like two years of working and they're fluent. I just want to learn Spanish to like go to Mexico. Latinas? Oh. Yeah? Yeah. Oh, okay. And like I just feel like like they know. Actually, no, it would be cool to pretend I'm from like Mexico or something. And I'm just speaking Spanish. There's a guy.

And they're like, what, is this guy? Is he from here? Is he all by now? Who's this guy? Is he a rapper? Dude, there's a guy that I watch on YouTube and he's, uh, he's just this white, white as mayonnaise guy. And he knows, he knows fluent like Mandarin. So he'll go to like Chinese like shops and stuff.

Yeah, I've watched that guy. I watched a lot of his videos. He's like a freak, bro. He knows. he'll walk in and be like is this the menu they're like yeah yeah yeah table for one and then he'll like look at the menu and it'll be like

don'ting nah nah yeah and then it'll just start ordering and they're just like they're like what there's like a hidden camera that catches their reaction yeah it's so and then they'll say more and they'll talk back to him in the language and they're like they're like astonished their reactions are fucking amazing there was actually another another dude

a black dude he actually passed away but he uh he knew he was just like that but he knew like he he was he was like obsessed with with language so he knew like it had to be like 20 languages like so so someone would like say something and he would snap into that language so and he would he was recording it too he would record it too yeah that's crazy i don't easy i feel like i need to learn something new i haven't learned something new in quite some fucking time. If I could, if I wasn't so damn lazy, I mean, I'm not lazy, but if I had time, I'd love to learn, like, to learn another language.

It's so hard going from English, though. I would love to learn it as well, but I know I'm not willing to like, you got, it's like, it's like going to school. It got to a point where I was like, studying it or like practicing it. It's like, what I, it's like, I think it would be dope to learn it. then I get to the Nosotros, Vosotro,

and I'm like, okay, maybe not. Can you roll your R's? Yeah. Arriba. Arriba. I should have just kept going.

If I could go back in, uh, I want to, if I could go back and like, tell my parents, I'll be like, yo, can you,

can you get me to start learning this shit early? Dude, my parents choked. My parents, like, I wish I would have fucking did piano. Honestly, if they're,

If there was one thing you wish your parents would have forced you to do, so you would have had to learn young and it would stick with you forever? What would it be? Spanish. Really? Because I know you're saying it's between that and piano? No, I'm saying between, like, anything. If you could pick anything.

Well, for me, it would be between that and piano. Oh, really? Oh, you'd want to learn piano? Absolutely, bro. That shit's gangster. I was just going up to a random hotel. It's like, oh, there's an event here. you pull up there's a piano in the fucking

dude i would like you've ever seen like the people that just like go to those public pianos and they just play the the interstellar song it's like dude and everyone starts crowding around everyone starts crowding around like it's such a taking photos and stuff yeah it's such a good way to pick up girls and shit too it's just like

mine would either be and I don't know why I say that about girls because I swear I'm the least horny guy like am I you don't think so who are you lying to I talk I talk about whether females are attractive or not

but like I really don't even watch porn like that I don't even like beat off like that you always said that but like I don't think I think it's deeper than your physical I think it's ingrained in you deeper in my physical

like it's something because when you get a you get two drinks into you that you you start you start doing this you're like a like a cheat in the grass who he

yeah it's like who here would like I'm like doing math like I'm trying to like calculate like like alright she's too good looking I'd be wasting my time

I'm not trunk enough for that no I'm kidding I'm kidding I can I guess a little bit when I'm drunk. Also, when I'm drunk, sometimes I'm like, it's crazy how being drunk changes you because I don't want to fight ever when I'm sober.

But if I'm drunk, it's like, if something popped off, like, you know, I'll be down. Or it's like I'll talk to a girl that I don't like and just try to hook up with her or whatever, whatever. happens. That's just, yeah, it's weird how that works. Dude, I saw a TikTok that was, it was this guy. He said, he said, I asked my wife if she has a plan of how to rob a bank and she said

no, and I thought that's crazy. And I started thinking about it, like, the way dude's brains work, I've definitely thought about, like, how I would rob a bank. So that, but that's not like the actual. It's like a fantasy of mine. It's robbing a bank. Dude, I feel like the way guys think, like, if you, you. get into a room and you're like, damn, if shit popped off

right now, I would take that glass and I would beat him over the head with it and run out the back door. Bro, dude, when I was walking in the HQ before I did the trivia, I was like walking up to do the trivia. I get out of my car and walking up. This dude, I think he works at Nirvana, was like walking past me. And my thoughts go, what if he just started talking shit to me?

Or like, he was like, I don't know if he had headphones in because I just like was looking down on my phone or something. And it sounded like he was like mumbling. I was like, is he saying something to me? I was like, what if he would like just start talking shit to me? I say something back. We get into like a weird argument. He pulls out a knife. I swear to God, I was thinking this. He pulls out a knife. He comes at me. What do I do? I'm thinking all this in my head while walking into the, what would I do if he like, if he got an argument, he pulled out a knife? Like, I go to, or I go to fight him. He pulls out a knife or something. Like, do I start

running? Then I'm like, yeah, I'd probably just start running. Like, I ain't trying to get, like, I'll, I'll lose my ego. Like, I'll just run. Yeah. And then I was like, but I'm wearing flip flops. Right. So it's like, do I kick the flip flops off? And if I kick the flip flops off and he realizes he can't catch me, would he like take my flip flop and like try to chuck it somewhere?

And I swear to God, I'm looking on top of Nirvana. Like, where would he throw my sandal? Like, I swear to God, I had these thoughts. And then I literally, like, I got in the freight. And I was like, why does my brain go that way? Dude, I promise you, I, dudes think that way. Guys just think that way.

Dude, everything I just said is a thousand percent true. Yeah. I mean, I could, it would be impressive if you just made that all up. And I even saw like a little ledge, like on the above Nirvana. You'll see it if you go back. But I'm like, he would have to have like really nice aim to like, like, yeah, he goes to stab me. I run away, but I leave my sandals fly off, so he's like,

this is the only way I can get this guy back. There's just some guy that was walking out of Nirvana today. Just like having a good day. Probably listening to music, like, humming lyrics. And I was like, wait, is he saying something? You've had this whole fantasy.

And he thinks I didn't pay him no mind. He thinks I didn't say a goddamn word, or he thinks I didn't even notice him. I'm like, head down, like, I don't know, it's going on my phone or something. Little does he. now you just had this whole entire scenario that happens all the like I'll be at like a restaurant and I like look at the people next to us and I'm like maybe you know what if they just like freaked out like what would I do

I'm like I don't think this knife is big enough like and then I'm like but the fork I think I could throw the fork if I throw the fork it could you know I think that shit all the time and you're thinking that and that but like you're just like kind of looking at the menu but in your head that entire shit's going on and then the waitress comes over like can I start you off with something to drink yeah I'll take a they have no idea yeah yeah that's why that's the kind of stuff that I don't think

girls think about and in that TikTok I wonder what's there that like what's they're thinking I wonder what he's thinking about I wonder does he still like me I wonder if he that's what they're thinking about yeah that's I mean that's definitely a fucking that's definitely

in there but I wonder if And we're just like, if he storms me, I'm going to stab him in the nose with a vork. Yeah. I wonder if they, damn, what are their thoughts like? What do girls? I don't, I, the thing is, I think girls, like, want to know what we're thinking about, but I don't think. I don't want to know what they're doing. It seems too chaotic.

It seems too, like, stressful. I'd rather think about scenarios that aren't going to happen and, like, how I'm the hero. that story because I ran away from a guy who threw my flip-flop on the roof. Yeah. I don't want to think about... I don't want to know someone else's

thoughts. I'll be all right not knowing. Yeah, I'm good. But girls always want to know. They always want to... I bet you... I bet you, even if they went into our brains and thought...

and got our thoughts, they would be massively disappointed. They don't... Because it's so... It would bore them? We would bore them. They'd be like, why, why are you robbing, why are you robbing this bank? It's like, it's not about the why.

It's, I know I can. I know that if, if I turned a corner in life and became a bank robber, I'd be able to do it. See, that's what I, like, I feel like there's an evil sort of genius deep down. Like, to where, like, robbing a bank or, I mean, I've, definitely thought of robbing a bank, but I don't know how. Like hiding a body. Hiding a body. If I killed someone, like, would I tell anyone?

No, I've already, like, established that if I kill someone, I'm not telling anyone. Right. Yeah, yeah. I'm not telling you either. Unless I absolutely need someone's help. And it's like, would I be able to chop them up? Fucking, yeah. Where am I hiding?

I'm like, if, you know, if you tie bricks to them, throw them in the river are they sinking? If you get into a situation where there's a body and you have to hide it and you have to tell someone who are you calling

probably my mom your mom would I want that I want her that's I would call my mom too but I want to put the burden on her yeah uh

do you call Hax HX is a good option but you can't I don't want to put the burden on him either because then I wouldn't mind putting the burden on him, but it's just like, Hex talks too much.

He does. And I'm like, I don't know. Plus, like, one day this might come out of his mouth. I would be like, I don't know if there's a soul. If I get away with it, if I don't get away with it, it's my face that's plastered everywhere.

And I get that. I can't, I can't have me and hex. I can't have Hector. So what are you saying? If you kill someone, say you kill someone, you're like, fuck, I got to get rid of this body. Right. But it's on accident.

Help? Or call someone. to help get rid of get rid of it oh to help get rid of it like you like you know those you know those like

those mysteries where it's like oh it's a lifelong it's been a lifelong secret between two brothers there's you know Jimmy Bob is buried in this construction site damn who

it's like who is your who do you trust I feel like there's got to be one I really don't like I think Blake would probably help me. But if Blake helped me, he would probably, he wouldn't ever lose his shit. He would even be psychotic the rest of his life.

You think so? He wouldn't ever hold it over my head, but he would let me know. It's like, hey, do you want to go to the soccer game? Like, no, I don't want to go. He'd be like, like, okay, yeah, like, oh, go. It's like, I think you owe me one. So we're going to go.

Yeah, I don't know, man. There was fucking... Yeah, I don't know. It's a hard... It's a good question. It's something to think about. That's something that every guy should think about. Something to think about.

It'd be good to know just in case. Oh, fuck. I don't know. I don't know. I would say Alexis, but like in the middle of moving the body, her blood sugar would go down and like, I can't have that. Can't have that. I ain't gonna lie.

Both of my last two exes, I feel like I would like... I feel like they were like... was so down for me that like Linda damn near hit my body she did she damn she she for sure did yeah she outed it down yeah yoga bay would have held it down

that's so funny I feel like I would trust them more you can't go to an X though yeah oh fuck no no you're saying hell no not an X but at the time maybe I don't know if I got any.

We'll have that episode 41. Yeah. We'll have that, we'll have that locked in. Yeah, you guys think about it now. No, it's a good,

I bet you people have started thinking about it. Or like, what is some of y'all's fucking weirdo? Like, because I ain't gonna lie, I have a, like, I genuinely do have like a bank robbery fantasy.

Yeah. I was literally, I think I was literally thinking of it today. Like, there was like, I don't remember the, other two, but there was like three different options of like, what are my fantasies?

One would be to rob a bank and then I had two others, but I forgot them. I'll try to think of them for the next episode. Hopefully that's like the chillest one. The bank robbing. I just think it was funny. I just thought it was, TikTok does that

where it's like, oh wait, I haven't, I, what's the thing that they say on TikTok? It was like, I've never had a unique thought. Like, you see that in the comments all the time is because there's so many things that like people do on tictock where you're like oh shit other people do that too and that's one of those because then one of the comments was like i'm you know i asked my husband thinking like you know there's no way people because he's a very upstanding citizen was like you never thought about robbing a bank and then he proceeded to tell me

his entire plan to rob bank and i was like oh shit like other guys think this too dude yeah TikTok has hell of videos like that to where it's they'll just point out something that you never thought about. I wish I could think of one right now, but they'll like point out something. The one is like how you cup your thing in the shower to get to get, you cup your hand next to your chest in the shower

to fill it up with water and you let it go. Yeah. I do that. That's like, or the funniest ones, the funny ones are like, let's confuse the girls or girls will be like, let's confuse the boys and they do something. I've never seen that let's confuse the boys.

I have seen the girls where it's like, they'll take water in a sink and like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, what are they doing? The girl ones are funny too, because I genuinely have no idea what's happening. I better search that up because I've never seen that one. Let's confuse the boys.

Yeah, well, I'm glad the flycast is back. I am toasty under this. Yeah? I'm like, I need to get out of this. Yeah, I'm comfy. I've been comfy all podcasts. before like that well i don't know about the first 10 minutes of fucking changing my position every two seconds but yeah this is uh i think this is is this the permanent set i think so

i like i feel like i i wouldn't want to do another flycass without a couch and blankets has to be a couch from now on all right man well i hope i hope you guys enjoy the the flycass as well feels good man it feels good it feels good it feels good Feels good to be alive again. I feel so alive. I've been saying that lately. Before we go, I did want to ask you one thing. Do we have any outro music?