The Flycast - THE TEAM THAT CHANGED OpTic FOREVER (SCUF HOUSE STORIES) | The Flycast Ep. 44

Episode Date: June 14, 2022

This week we have  @Hitchariide  and  @BtH MaNiaC  discussing past OpTic Halo rosters, current Halo roster changes, and some stories from the OpTic Scuf house!  Check out the OpTic Podcast here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/optic-podcast/id1542810047 https://open.spotify.com/show/25iPKftrl0akOZKqS0wHQG MB01VRXLRVBBYYQ THE TEAM THAT CHANGED OpTic FOREVER (SCUF HOUSE STORIES) | The Flycast Ep. 44

Gotta wait for Matt to leave. He kept being like your talking to the mic. That's with this guy. This guy's always in the fucking room. Jesus, fucking God. Finally. Finally, dude. My socks.

He's gone. My neck just cramped. Your neck cramped from laughing? Yeah. It's a good way to start it off. Explain the socks. Explain the socks. Alexis's mom got him for me.

Explain the socks. What? What are the? Alexis's mom got him for you. They're Arizona State. They're from Arizona. Dude, it is hot as fuck here. In here?

Out there. Out there is ridiculous. I got locked out for 45 seconds and was like. It's a wonderful day out. It is a nice day. What a wonderful day. I should go outside and play. There's no need.

sit inside the house and hibernate hi ren i was just about to toss a live grenade in your driveway and drive away are you afraid of a blade made with a razor with AIDS blood dripping from it ripping your stomach off and the waist up you talk a lot of shit but you was never ill though i'm sick enough to beat you to death with a feather pillow tipped over some cows shots for a joke in a laugh jumped up choked the giraffe snapped his neck and broke it in half i'm waging wars went on stage and sprayed cage with Asian arters, an Asian source. Those are Arizona sign?

Yeah, it's pretty hot out there. Dude, it's so hot. I remember back in my Addy days, it's so much worse. It was so much worse when I'd walk outside, like, after a two-day bender and I'd have to go outside to, like, go get food or something.

It would be so hot. It would, like, hurt. It's not that bad now. It's pretty bad. I was just trapped out there, locked out of the garage mahal. And just standing out there like, oh my God, it's so fucking hot. Like just in the shade still just like, dude. So that why you had to come in here and grab a fucking brusky?

Yeah, I think it is. It's been a brusky type week for me. Same. Just kidding. No it hasn't. Dude, yesterday on stream, we did a 64 team bracket of the, 64 whitest songs we could think of. Oh yeah, I saw your tweet.

What do you think, one? I saw it was Sweet Caroline. Yeah, Sweet Caroline one. And then second place was... It's like fireflies, fireflies and living on a prayer. What did Cotton Eye Joe get? I saw it there. It got in top 16.

But it was so white that it was a meme. You know what I mean? So like we didn't let it. get farther than that. Sweet care. I ain't gonna lie. I, I never heard Sweet Caroline

until I moved here and like went to She moved here? Yeah. We went to Scruffys. Yeah. And it was like me,

you, Roger, Seth, probably like Matt, some other people maybe. And the song came on and everyone was sweet. I was so pissed off. I'd never heard the song of my life and everyone's like

that song comes on and every white person sings along. ba-ba it just i don't know something about the song just pisses me off no yeah but every white person knows it except me yeah no it's i used to i used to work out uh wet a wedding um like place what place where they have receptions at weddings um and so i would always like they would always be dancing and i'd go around to get their food and stuff i don't know how i never heard it i probably

heard that song. I mean, there's not a wedding, probably, there's not a white person wedding in the world, probably where that song doesn't play. It wouldn't be played at mine. Yeah, it won't be played at mine. I don't know why everyone's like happiness to that song, like, angers me.

Yeah. I, saying, I don't know what it is either. You don't, like, you're not one of those who like sings along with it and just get hype when it comes on? No. But then it's one of those that's like, Like, it's kind of like life is a highway.

Have you ever seen that? Life is a highway. That's a banger. There's, is that the song from, have you ever watched How I Met Your Mother? I don't know. Regardless, I think it's life as a highway. There's a, there's a tape in somebody's car that is stuck on one song. And they can't get the tape out or the CD out.

They can't get it out. So it's stuck on Life is a Highway at all times. And so there's like a huge road trip that they go. Sounds familiar. A huge road trip that they go on. and they're like, dude, I hate the song. And then he's like, it'll come back. It'll come back.

That's almost how I remember when I first started driving, how we just had CDs, and I would have like one CD and it would just like be inserted. And it would play, I would have like the whole CD memorized because every single time I got in my car, he would just play that one artist,

that one album, and it wasn't like, how it is now. That was literally the scuff house. CDs? That was literally my, my car in the Scruff House Oh yeah Like we always had take care

It was one of the Drake album Dude take care was in that Was in the Jeep for like six months I went wait and your car We couldn't even Yeah because it wasn't on a phone So we didn't even like fast We couldn't like fast forward or like

You could skip tracks Yeah Damn the Jeep Dude I used to have a center console On my car in high school Where you take out this like brick and then the brick has like different CD slots. And so you could put like 10 CDs and then put it,

put it back in. So you'd have to memorize which CD was in which spot. Oh, really? Yeah. And then there was also a shuffle option that was like, I think it was way ahead of its time, but also didn't really work correctly, where it would shuffle a song between all 10 CDs.

But in order to get to the song, it would take like a minute and a half. Because you would hear once in the lead. I didn't even know that was a thing. One CD, go back in and they go... Did you ever burn CDs? Yes. What was the...

The program? Lime wire? Lime wire? Was that it? Yeah, yeah. What was the one before that? Napster. Yeah, I don't think I really used that.

No, no. Everyone just used... Well, Napster wasn't illegal. Was it? Until Metallica made it illegal. It was something like... There's some story in there. Why?

Wait, why? They just like... sued them or something? Yeah, they sued them because they weren't getting any money for their for their music. But so then like LimeWire was very obviously illegal. I can't believe it didn't get like shut down. Yeah, right? And it was up for so long. I think could you download anything else but music or was it just music? No, yeah. I downloaded I Robot. So movies. Movies. You could put movies on your, uh, yeah, well you would, they were, for some reason, there was a lot of stuff hidden in there. Like,

it was, oh, you know what it probably was? I'm just figuring this out as a 29 year old. You know how like sometimes you would download a Pokemon season two, episode one, and then it would be a porn. That was like a thing. Yeah. And I was always like, so is somebody like coding these to like trick people into downloading stuff that's porn?

Like what is the, what is the humor behind that? But I bet you it was people that were uploading it. And then they were like, hey, if you want to watch a porn and you, want to disguise it, Pokemon season two, episode two is, you know, bad milfs are us.

That makes sense. And I bet you that's how your parents wouldn't see it. Yeah. It's just like, oh, he has their whole album. He has the whole season.

Oh, shit. Yeah, no, it's bad. That's probably why. I don't know how I'm just figuring this out. Because I've always, I was just like,

there's no way that somebody's just joking or, like somebody's uploading porn and titling it. I mean, there is a way. It's the internet, but just like somebody's giggling to themselves. Back in those days, if you would see like any porn, you would like, this will work. Nowadays, it's like you skimmed through fucking. Well, actually, I don't know about anyone else, but it's like got to find the perfect one.

But back then it was just like, you just take what you can get and it's good enough. I don't even know if it was like that back in the day for me. bro i remember now i'm thinking of it just like if i randomly watched late night music videos on b et that was enough what was it uh what was that called was it bt uncut yeah something nelly tip drill fucking yeah yeah yeah it's really bro i remember when i was like 12 my now that i'm thinking of it this is weird my friend went on some like i don't know know, I really have no idea what he did. But long story short, some woman, which I'm sure it wasn't a woman that he was like

chatting with online, but send him like nudes. And he would print them out on his printer. And it would literally be like, just like a naked woman, like spread, open, titty's out. And we were like 12, 13. And now that I'm thinking of it, it's like, what the fuck was that? He just went on Google Images. I don't think so. Like, I think he was actually chatting with someone.

Damn. Which, I mean, obviously, it's not this fucking hot woman sending him ticks. He's 12 years old. No, that was for sure. A sketchy situation that your friend got involved in. Yeah, 12, 13, just doing that shit. I wonder what the earliest, like, cell phone naked picture that was sent. It was probably the day after.

cameras were made on phones when were cameras did like a blackberry had a camera right yeah it was it was early it was like the motor oral razor days right like maybe a little bit before that if you had a razor at blackberry you were so cool yeah i had um i remember was it called a side kick where you like flipped it up and it was like a whole ass keyboard oh you flipped up on its side, right? It was touch screen on the front. Excuse me. No, it wasn't touchscreen. It was like, I think it was called a sidekick.

It was such like, I had, um, my first cell phone was a track phone where you had to like buy minutes and shit. Oh, yeah. And it had like no, all it had on it was like worm and phone calls. Like, I don't think there was like text or anything. And then all of my friends would have like,

Snake? Yeah, what's a worm? Yeah, it's snake. I was like, what is worse? I was like, that did not sound right. Yeah, now snake. And all of my friends had Blackberries, razors,

and then I finally got this. I'm trying to pull it up right now. Yes, this. Sidekick cell phone. This, you don't remember this feeling? What does the front look like? Like, you just like, you like flip it up.

You can like, fold that top part down. But I went from like a track phone to that. And I was so fucking hype. I thought I was so cool. Yeah, I had something like that, but it was a, it was like touchscreen.

It was like touchscreen on the front. And I remember thinking I was so fucking cool. Touch screen. It was touchscreen on the front, but it flipped up with a full keyboard. Dude, I bet you, damn, people these days, literally their first cell phones,

an iPhone. An iPhone. Like Bella. Yeah. She has a She has an iPhone? Yeah Holly got her old

Holly Yeah And she's eight Eight Eight Eight years old When was your first phone I think

I think sixth grade So how old was I Was I ninth grade Really Six I think I had a Track phone In

No seventh grade Seventh grade Yeah My mom I was literally I'd Asked my parents

For cell phone for a cell phone for like three years because everyone in middle school had a cell phone. And then they're like, how do I? And I was giving out my home phone. And then that's, that's probably when my phone anxiety started.

I don't want people to call me. You have phone anxiety? Yeah. Like, whenever I call, whenever I have to call someone or something, I'm always just like, dude. Holy shit, me too.

That is fucking hell. Or if I get a call. I'm like I probably don't answer 90% of my calls Yeah But then like the ones I do answer It's like I like

I'm like I like It's ringing for a while And I'm like And then I have to I can't just like be laying there And pick it up It's like I have to pick it up

And then I'm like walking around Or like Yeah Yeah That's funny Damn I didn't even I didn't even think about I didn't even think about

Giving it a name Phone anxiety For like someone else has it though. Yeah, that's, well, the first time I heard it is Nate told me he had it because I had contacted him like five or six times about a tournament.

And he never got back to me. Or maybe it was like, maybe Jack. Even after he blew up and shit? Nate? Yeah. Like when he's just Nate, like 100thief, Nate? Oh, that's what it was. It was Nate said he wanted to talk to me whenever

we were up in limbo. And so he said he would like to talk to me. He would like to talk to me. You don't have it at all. we gotta end this good man no we don't have to end this I kidding Nate said hey we should talk soon and this was like before I was assigned

to Huntsman and so I was like yeah I'd love to talk so then I like hit him up like twice or something like that and he never responded and then I called him twice I like texted him and DM'd him and then I remember like messaging Jack and he was

like yeah Nate has like really bad phone anxiety And then I was like, yes, I gotta see. I was like, it makes, dude, when I wake up,

my phone is like, I have to figure something out. I think I'm gonna, I have to put, I have to like figure out what is bringing notifications to my phone and what's not. Because when I,

I literally, the homepage, I have to scroll. Really? It's all like different text threads. I know, me and none of the people watching can relate to that.

But it's all like Slack notifications and email and, and it's so much and I'm just like, dude. And that's my first thought every morning. That's not a good way to start your day either. For the last six months, that's been my first thought. Like instantly you wake up and you pick up your phone and it's instantly like,

oh, God. Is it like I got to do this? I got to call this person. It's not. Figure this out. Kind of, but not so much really. It's just there's a lot that's happening in so many different areas.

So it's like there's always updates and always. Like, yeah, and then sometimes there's things that like need to be done as well. I am so happy to, dude, I need more people to be like transparent about their like issues. Like hearing, even hearing someone like Nate has, well first off, I thought it was just me because I'm weird. But like hearing you say that and then hearing that Nate has like as successful as he is and how many, I don't even know if I, it's hard to even believe it with Nate. Because I'm sure he's in like meetings. he's like sort of conducting the meetings he's like speaking in front of everyone

he said hey I want to talk and then I was like oh my god I'm drawing in a hundred days and so then I like hit him up a couple times and he was like and then he was like yo Jack that could have been the case but I don't think so

maybe because Nate's tweeted out a few times like his like a funny message with somebody and then he has like 400 text messages and I'm just like yeah that I mean I can get it gets to a point where you're just like like I have like I I I'm that way with like with email as well as it's like dude there's so many emails there's so many is that what your life is or I guess you have a lot more emails now than like ever before yeah well there's an email a little dabbled into the corporate world there's like

an email that is sent for every meeting that you're a part of and then there's a follow-up email that is sent afterwards and then and then also there's like email threads that are and so it's just like 30 emails a day or something like that. I feel like I've sent 30 emails of my life. That's what I've, that's how I've, I've never done this. I don't, I still don't really use it. Oh, you just check them. There's like, there's like a, there's like a Slack.

And Slack is like Discord. So I just tell everyone to just, hey, like if you need me, please just DM me on Slack. Because I'm not going to, my, dude, I wonder how many, I wonder how many emails I have right now. Let's see. I don't think I've ever deleted an email either. I have thousands and thousands of emails. This is my email. How many?

9,308. Wait, will mine say that? But I have an optic email, two regular emails and a TST email. So. I don't even know how to like, yeah. Mine just says like 99 plus. Dude, what we were talking about with like calling and stuff? like whenever now that I'm like helping out Roger and stuff like every once in a

I was like hey can you do this and sometimes it's like like hey can you figure out what's going on over here and like call people and so for the first time of my life I'm like calling random people and hey what's up it's Davis hey it's Davis so one of the things that whenever we were trying to announce the apex team I was trying to call and book the voice actress for Horizon, one of the characters that the guys plays and have her read a script as Horizon.

So I went to go call her talent agency and I'm literally sitting there in an Uber and I'm like, we announce in five days if we're going to do something that's cool it has, I have to be the one to do this. So I remember looking at the phone number and just like, and I just literally sat there

yeah I like hearing about people's like I like sat there for like three minutes yeah dude when I went to the DMV to get my tags I love I just love hearing other people's like not insecurities but like they're I don't know no it's a lot of mine like comes from like

the Blake says I have a like a I'm anxious of like the man like the government you know it you know what I mean yeah I was sitting in like because whenever I went okay two stories I went to go get the bit the business account set up for TST at Wells Fargo and so I had to go into a bank I had to get my own bank account because I was using a credit union in North Carolina so I had to get my own bank account and then set up a TST business bank account and I was literally like in the

parking lot like dude I don't I can do this tomorrow like I can do this tomorrow and then I was like If I, no, if I don't go in there, I won't do it. So I went in there. I, and I remember her being like, do you have this sheet that you need? And I had this like whole booklet of stuff that, and I was just like, like, freaking out going through it in front of her. And I was like, she was like, oh, no, this is fine, it's fine. I think she could like tell. And, you know, I got out of it.

But, and I got the TST account and I was like, yes. But also the worst one was when I was getting my tags for my car, I was. sitting in the line at the DMV literally there's no music there it's just people and you can hear the conversations with the people up front like you go up to a like a like a little counter and as I was in the line I was physically shaking like my hands were literally shaking all because I needed to get all because I just needed tags on my car yeah and I was just yeah but like up until that point I would I've been like driving like avoiding cops because I still have my temporary tags on for like six months after. You don't even want to know my, you know like the stick, your registration sticker.

You don't even want to know what date mine says. Mine says like October 2021. Like that's pretty fucking bad. That's pretty bad. And the place that we get a new one at is right beside our apartments. You know that like library thingy? That's where I was. Yeah.

When I was shaking. Yeah. Really? In that line? In that line. That's fucking funny. I'm glad I'm not the only one. Well, of course I'm not the only one that like goes through that.

But like it's funny how cool. I, people like the people work in there. They see me in line. They just look up. See like a redhead guy with like tattoos and I'm just like chilling. But in my head I'm like, I'm like listening. I'm like listening to every conversation. I'm hearing the people in front of me saying like what they have.

And then like the worker is saying what you need. And I'm like, I fuck, I don't have that. Yeah. And like, I always go up and like make a little like self demeaning joke and then keep it rolling. Yeah.

I go up there and like, Hey man, it's just help. I have all the things I need. And then he's like, yeah, me too. Yeah. I usually do that too.

Like I'll walk up and be like, I'm going to be honest. I have no idea what I'm doing. Yeah. Right. And even like, set the bar low. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I always set the bar. Me too. Even, bro, I was on my bike and I pulled up to a red light and this like crotch rocket pulls up beside me. And I'm like, fuck. And I'm like, I know we're going to look at each other. It's like, this is a bike thing. This is my first bike interaction.

So I like pop open my like face mask or whatever. And he's like, that shit. He just says, I'm like, that shit looks sick. I'm like, thanks, man. I have no idea what I'm doing. Just got it. so if you see me i didn't say this but like so if you see me start at this red light just now and then he he literally pulled off wheeling and just like no way yeah what a douche especially

to do that right after he said you didn't know what you're doing but the thing is that'll be me no it will not you will not be wheeling eventually i'm about to learn to wheelie on my bike bro that's part of the fun wheeling safe No one is not I ain't gonna lie though I watch so many Moto vlogs and they literally

and I think there's like a big bike scene in Dallas I'm not sure though and they literally just go like 160 like weaving through cars and like it's crazy there'll be like

a hundred of them out at once and they're just fucking flying and I'm like I don't like I go I think I think I've I've gone up to 80

like downhill on my bike and even then I'm like fucking scared shitless yeah that sounds horrifying I remember when I first got my bike like probably riding it for like a few hours or like a day or two and then I finally they got the boss to go to like 55 miles per hour and I was like oh my fucking God

like it's so windy you have like no wind protection so it's like you're holding on like pretty tight and it's just like I don't know it's like the earth is trying to it doesn't want you on the bike It wants you. Like, if I relax, I'd probably, like, just get blown off. Especially with the winds in Texas, it's so windy some days that it makes it, like,

sometimes I'll go out for a ride, but it's, like, windy as fuck. So it's like, I don't even enjoy it because my bike's, like, sort of doing a little jiggle. Jiggle. It falls. I see you wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, for sure. But, yeah, it's pretty sketchy. I saw a clip of a DJ playing that song at an event. I might have seen that.

And then it was like a boom, pump, pomp, and then all of a sudden it's just, my money don't jiggle, jiggle, and everyone goes, it falls.

And I was like, dude. It's fucking crazy. Like, what is that app doing? Even the guy, dude, TikTok's nuts.

That guy, what did he do that on? I've, I've seen the original clip of him like saying it and he's like that girl that he's like getting interviewed it's that really funny girl in England that interviews people

she interviews like Jack Harlow and and like famous people yeah what was she interviewing him for they have like a really funny connection those two they're like always you can't tell if they're flirting or not who Jack

Jack Harlow and that that girl I can't remember her name I saw yeah I saw the clip of that he's like do I you nervous? And she's like, no. But then she's like, you can kind of tell. They're like, go back, they like jive pretty well. But I wonder why, why was she interviewing the wiggle wiggle, wiggle guy, jiggle, jiggle, I don't know. I didn't even know. I obviously, I didn't think.

How did he get fucking the wiggle wiggle guy? What the fuck did that come from? My money don't. I saw like the, I think the original. It kind of goes hard. It does kind of go. My money don't jiggle, jiggle, it folds. That kind of go.

What does that mean? Oh, it's not change. It's dollar bills. Yeah. My money don't jiggle, jiggle, it folds. I want to see you wiggle wiggle. For sure. So he's trying to get a bitch to twerk on him.

I can't really. My money don't jiggle, jiggle, it folds. That shit's hard. Right? I want to see you wiggle wiggle for sure. Something dribble, jiggle. You know. Riding in my feet.

You really got it. I really want to see it. Six foot two in a compact. Six foot two in a compact. No slack. That's just kind of, I mean, it's good.

Damn. It's good. It's not bad. I forget what he made that for, though. TikTok, TikTok is like, do you think, say someone looks on my YouTube.

I think it's ruining humanity. But yeah, keep going. What are you saying? Say someone looks at my YouTube. They see I have, whatever I have, like 240,

250 subs. 250K to whatever I have And then On their TikTok They have A million followers Like do they think their million Is like the same as

Yeah well like anything it's just another platform I think it depends Like are you saying somebody that blew up on TikTok I'm saying do they think their one million is equivalent On TikTok is equivalent to someone with a million on YouTube It depends I'm sure there's definitely people that think like, damn, I got a million followers.

Like, I'm as famous as this guy who has a million on YouTube. Yeah, that's not the case. But I have, it's like, it's not fake views. Well, it's not fake views. It is views, but it's like, just not. In order to be like a good concept creator, you have to, like, transcend your one platform.

I have seen the absolute most basic, like, not funny, not just crazy. basic videos with like 100k views and like or like 70k. I've seen some with like 140k likes and it's just nothing. Yeah it's like nothing. It's like a half ass dance video or something. Yeah.

Okay, I'm a hater and I should have got on TikTok. Yeah, you are a hater. I'm surprised you didn't get on TikTok. I just don't know what I would do. I think there's somebody I was just thinking about this while you were talking like I think there's somebody out there that could go through all like the funny moments in flycast history and make like a flycast

tech talk i bet you there's like we have enough moments yeah all the who out there wants to do that you can put your you can put your what's it called watermark on the vid very small at the bottom right just clip them all flycast uh tick toacist ticot flycast patreon We doing a Patreon? Yeah. Well, we started thinking about it after you and Matt had that conversation that had to get cut on the, on a couple of flycasts ago, that we saved the conversation. It was just too raunchy for the optic video.

For like to go on the Optic Nation channel. Yeah. So we saved that. I'm fine with it, but it was like, it was too long. I don't even know what Matt kept in. I didn't like watch to see what he kept. He didn't keep anything in it. Oh, okay.

See, I wouldn't even mind if he kept like the main part. arts, but it was just like too long. It was 20 minutes of talking about like massage fucking happy endings. Yeah, well, uh, but yeah, we're thinking about doing a Patreon starting like a couple, like, probably next week. Yeah, we want to do like a extra 30 minutes of podcast and then like a Q&A every week. Yeah. Yeah, we got to figure out something like interesting.

You know, uh, Adam from No Jumper? Yeah. he said I think he was breaking down like how much is no jumper and then like everything under that sort of like makes a month

and he was breaking on and he said like most of his their income comes from Patreon yeah but it's like I have never made a Patreon I've never looked at a Patreon so I don't even know what like what kind of content

you could put on Patreon yeah you can put like if you have any ideas let us know please. I know The Yard, which is another podcast in gaming, they are like, they are like murdering it on Patreon. Like that's how, that's like why the podcast is still, or that's why like the biggest success of the podcast.

The only thing I can think of is. But they do another hour. They do an hour for YouTube for everyone. And then they do another hour every single podcast for Patreon. on. So they talk for two hours a week, basically. What if? I always wanted to do, I don't know if you want to talk about this, but for your, the bar or whatever, are you going to be, like, interviewing people or just like a one-on-one podcast?

It's going to be more of, like, an interview. Because my favorite things to watch is sort of, like, interviews. Yeah. Or, like, when, you know, Zane Lowe. Yeah. That interviews like every big artist that's about to have an album drop. Like he, it's like, I guess it can be podcasty at times, but it's mostly like he knows what questions and topics and shit that the people want to hear and that he wants to hear.

And I almost want to do something like that, but with like a guest or something. Yeah. Like when we get scumple on here next week. Yeah. Like have a, I don't know, some kind of, like a. like questions yeah like that's what that's kind of what I'm doing for the bar podcast is like I'm like really like researching people like I want to like research people and like ask some

yeah I just wanted to do that that was that's like my favorite type of do you watch hot ones stuff yeah he's the best he's the best stuff like that like that like I love stuff like that I love I like podcasts as well and like it depends like even like Joe Rogerson I'll have some guests and it's like sometimes they're just like, I enjoy sort of hearing him talk, but I'm more interested, and I don't know if anyone,

everyone's like this, because I know some people just enjoy hearing people fucking talk. But if I'm like, say Jamie Fox, like I know Jamie Fox is and I know what he does, then I could care less about him having a random conversation. I want to know, like, how it got started. What was his high school life like? Did he play sports?

or when was this, that, whatever. It's like, imagine being, like, Elizabeth Olson and, like, doing a press run for Avengers. You know that, like, you're probably going to get interviewed 100 times. 87 of those interviewers are going to ask you about your, about Mary Kay and Ashley.

It was just like, I bet you that's so frustrating. I see, I would ask about Mary Kay and Ashley, but I would, like, ask, like who is your well maybe this maybe I would be the basic interview like who is your favorite person who's your favorite sister

who is your favorite who did everyone hate on set or who did it who was your favorite person on set to work with or like I don't fucking know yeah that's that wouldn't be a good question but I think it's just like when I saw that she was on hot ones I was like I know for a fact Sean is not going to ask her

American Ashley because she was on there yeah and you watched it yeah and he didn't and he didn't because he he always finds out like like obviously people want to know certain I think how I think hot ones is one of the best shows in media history I'm dead ass do it's a fucking hit every time it is a hit and it's because he does a perfect balance of asking people questions that they want to know the answer to but asking it in a way where it hasn't been asked a hundred times. To where they hear it and they're like, oh shit.

That's a good question. Then they break it down for fucking five minutes. Yeah. If he, he would ask you something, he would ask you something about Hagerstown. He would ask you something about rehab.

He would figure out something from Hagerstown that happened to me. Right. Like he calls my mom and he's like, when you wrote that note to that kid in fifth grade, what exactly did it say for you to get suspended? And I'm just,

what the fuck but also he he doesn't that's like one section is like people want to know where what the rock was like in Hawaii people want to know what that was like so he does a good job of asking those questions

but he also does a good job of asking the guest questions that the guest is passionate about because the people also like seeing like when other people are passionate like if he he would probably ask you something about like,

you know, what about 90s rap is just so much better than whatever. And then you could just immediately. Or you would somehow know Mobb Deep is my favorite, like, 90s rap group. Right. And he would be like,

what is it? And you could just see it in your eyes that you're going back and you're like rewrapping everything. And I don't know. That's just, he just does a perfect balance of those two things. What the? Bose,

what did Bose say? What? Boz sex me, he just goes, rage tonight. The thing is, I know he's not fucking serious. Boz probably gets so bored so often that he's just funny to people. I wish there was a cameraman that followed

Bose around. Me too. Just to see. Because I know what I do, and it ain't fucking much. Like, people would be very surprised of how much I do nothing. And, like, I'm almost getting to a point now

where I'm, like, starting to hate it. Like, I'm, like, actually going outside, like... I think you'd be surprised how many people think that you do nothing. How many people actually, like, truly know? They're like, no, we know. They're like, no, we're not surprised. That's exactly how we thought of you, actually.

Wait, you do go out? That's crazy. Oh, you go get food? I actually have been, like, venturing out of my apartment. It's, uh... I feel like it's, like, the first time in my life. I've like gone out not even necessarily like out to a bar or a club or something but like the first time it's like I'll just like find something to do most of the time it involves

a TV but it's like I'm like Aaron lives here yeah he lives downtown what do you think of the whole shit that's happening in Halo sorry for it's a huge change of direction whatever what do you mean how fucking shit it is no team changes has it been announced is it is it public it's been rumored um well i mean i don't know that that bound is going to phase um no bound i mean bound is going to cloud nine yeah which means renegade is leaving did you watch the tournament yesterday was bound playing with c9 or yeah he was playing with c9 oh shit really okay then I'm fairly I'm like 90 position

I'm not surprised that TJ's Allegedly getting dropped I haven't talked to him I haven't talked to anyone from Sentinel's I haven't talked to fucking anyone Really But it's

It's just as much Well I sort of know some behind Well fuck I don't know how much I can say But yeah Apparently something's going the fuck down And it would be it's not 100%

I can tell you that much but apparently a renegade joining sentinels yeah bound joining C9 I wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised

if TJ got dropped I saw that snipe down said he's coming back because he was on the fence he's been on the fence for a couple weeks about whether to go did he really word it that he's coming I saw like only two more tournaments left.

I'm going to give it my all or something like that. I saw him like tweet something like that. Yeah, so I saw Jay Clarkie tweet that. Yeah, I was hanging out with him in Austin and we were just talking about like he was like, yeah. He was like, dude, it's so. And he was sort of on the fence. Like, yeah, I don't. I don't know what I want to do.

Like it's like why the fuck would I play? Like it's so. That's kind of what everyone was thinking. But why you're going to play is because there's fucking the. world worlds or whatever at the end of the year and that's a stupid amount of money yeah two million dollars right something like that yeah um i'm not surprised that these team changes are happening i don't think no thanks to tj even though he's done nothing but verbal me my entire especially my late career and any every other fucking day uh i haven't seen that guy go positive more than like two

maps in like the last three tournaments. Yeah. Like he, uh, he doesn't stream anymore. So I don't even think people know what his screen looks like. Like, you can sort of get away. Like when you stream, people know, people can sort of figure out if you're good or not. When you don't stream, you can still sort of get by with like only going nag one or like nag two.

You could be playing fucking horrible and still go like plus one. Like I've had plenty of games where it's like I'm playing pretty. fucking bad and I'm still just nag one or like plus one or whatever and I've also had games where I'm playing good as fuck and I'm going like nag four. Yeah. But it's just

like T.J. doesn't stream anymore. I don't know what the fuck he does. He moved down here. Hasn't hung out with us once, maybe once. I don't. Have you seen T.J. since Yeah, I've hung out with T.J. I've hung out with T.J. Okay.

Irvan. Um, yeah, I don't know what the fuck he's doing. Um, I don't know. I'm sure. I haven't talked to TJ regarding this game, but I'm sure he doesn't like it or just finds it. It is boring as fuck. There's fucking nothing to do on the game.

Yeah. Like there's just, like, imagine playing ranked on Vanguard was like pros. Well, I guess that is what pros have to do. It's a good example, actually. Yeah. No one's caring. Yeah. No one gives a, like, no pros want to play it.

It's super boring. The ranking system's probably trash on Vanguard as well. It means nothing. It's just... Did that ever happen in Halo prior to this? Like where a team was winning and then someone got dropped from the winning team? Because it happened in Cod. It's like Clayster and Damon.

It happened after we won 2009 Nats. We won Nats and then Cloud left, which was a good decision to be. honest. We won 2009 Nats Cloud left after that event for like Roy lunch and Elamite or something. And then they won like three tournaments in a row of the next

season. So that happened I don't know if anyone else has won an event and drop someone. I don't think so. Because people always say like like

there's a lot of criticism that comes whenever you drop someone after a win. A lot of criticism. Yeah. So people are already talking like shit about Sentinel. Sentinels are if this goes, if this happens. They're idiots though. If this happens, Sentinels is going to be

definitely like I think the crowd is going to be against them in a way. I think kind of the way that like. I think regardless they're going to be fucking nasty and it doesn't fucking matter. I think people on Twitter might be against them but I don't think the crowd will be

against them. You don't think so? No. I think they're going to be... Who did Sentinel's play with in the online tourney? T.J. I don't think they played. To be honest, I think... They didn't play the first week. I don't know if they played last week.

I think Royal 2... I've seen Royal 2 screen. He's good as fuck. I put him in, like, my top 5 for Halo Infident, like, POVs that I've seen. Royal 2's good as fuck. Snakebite's always fucking good. And that guy grind.

Like, he wakes up. He streams. He does the... sort of a NEAC schedule I like stream in the morning and go do whatever but he like grinds matchmaking like he his nerdy hearts

always in it always in it and then Frosty hates the game but he's just disgusting and like this is his prime so he's just nasty regardless and then picking up Renegade who I would say Renegade or Lucid are the best players in the game

I just I don't know they're going to be if it happens they're going to be scary It's fucking wild I just don't think people want to see like beat downs But So that means the C9 is playing And C9 replacing

Renegade with Bound is not If that's what's happening That is not a That's not an easy team either A team is still stacked Bounds basically a mini renegade Kind of He's uh

Yeah That team would be good as well And I think I wonder why Renegate left. I think eventually yeah, team changes are still gonna happen

and there's gonna be some fucking some God squads. I feel like there's it's like Sentinels now is competing for first. I mean they won last tournament I don't think anyone was fucking expecting them to.

Yeah. I mean, to be honest, Optic should have lost them but formal shat the sheets but but sentinels is definitely going to be like people are going to be expecting them to be in the finals I would think yeah

yeah people are calling a people calling Renegade Kevin Durant that's funny it's pretty funny right kind of makes sense but I mean if you're in if that if that comes up if that's a situation that comes up in your sentinels

and you're like, hey, not only could we get a good team mate that is possibly one of the best players in the world, but also it kind of breaks down another top three team. If you're taking him away from C9, it's kind of like you kind of have to. But at the same time, it's always, there's been teams formed before where people are like, oh, these guys are going to be like a God squad.

And then they like turn out to, then they play like, Sentinels could play C9 and it's like Bound goes off And people are like Yeah, should have done that the whole thing It's like you should have fucking

Should a fucking laptop Yeah Yeah But then it's like the tournament after Sentinels will win like two or three straight Or like something like that Like Stuff like that sort of always happens

I've been on some like Online God squads To where we don't lose a scrim And I'm just getting carried Like me demon D sniper down in Heinz or Me Demon D. Snipe down in Tizoxic. We were the best team

like, not by far online, but like we were the best team online. We went to like a pre-land. What year is this? 2010. Halo 3. We went to like a pre-land with like the other top six teams. All like the best

six teams were there. And we like we shit on everyone like map count wise. And then the tournament the next week or week after or something and then we get like what did we get

I think we got did we get top 12 once I know we got fifth I think at Nats but I think the tournament before we got top 12 and it's like we were shitting on every single team at the land

and then we get to the tournament and we just like shat the fucking sheets and I'm like you guys fucking choke like you guys were shitting like where is this where's this? that now. Like, I'm still doing my part. I'm

nag one. Like, how are we not fucking winning? That's such a funny. Why aren't you plus fucking 17? Like you were. I did my part. I'm nag one. I did my part. I'm nag one with least assist. It's so funny. That's funny as shit.

That was probably the most. I played, when a team with snipe down, I played pretty, I played pretty, pretty, good the first event but I think like the next event I played average there's been a few events I laughed and I was like god damn I was so fucking average but I've also just fucking dominated some events

but I just get it's never on main stage it's never on main stage I just wasn't on main stage that much either but yeah that one moment that one moment on a Coliseum that on in Halo 5 that shit was so sick when I was going off with snipe

yeah yeah I'll take a brusky yeah I have my moments sometimes or just another white claw yeah I remember thinking like whenever whenever that was happening you were like shitting with snipe and it was the first time

I think it was like the first time that like I had seen a crowd because it was one of the first Halo 5 events that I had shot it was the first time I had like seen a crowd yeah and they were going Ape shit. And I was on Addie and Zanz off my fucking ass.

I remember thinking. I remember being nervous as fuck before that and like taking like a bar like right before a match and I calmed the fuck down and just lock the fuck in. Would not recommend though because that was a fucking fluke. Yeah. I remember I remember you're so proud during that moment because I feel like the I feel like tell me if I'm wrong. I feel like that of

Or before we moved Into the scuff house Not a lot of Optic fans really cared about Optic Halo Uh Yeah I think the Optic Halo's hype Started whenever you guys started doing those online

qualifiers with like stellar and Yeah And Cleet in the basement Yeah Yeah it did get kind of hype I remember one time we were doing I think it was like a last chance qualifier and Flame was streaming. I never liked streaming because I felt like I played worse, like just knowing people were watching every fucking movement.

But Flame was streaming and he had like 29,000 viewers or something. That was fucking nuts. 29,000 viewers for a last chance qualifier that you guys ended up winning. And I remember, I remember people were just saying how bad Flame was after that because they're just like watching his screen the whole time. Or at least people like lethal and like just people like that. And at that time we were only like, I think we were fighting for like the eighth spot. Dude, I can't even remember the two guys you teamed with. Lifestyle and Chaser.

Damn, I do remember now. Lifestyle and Chaser. Our team was so bad. That is like the first time. I was like, no one's going to like, I like truly felt like no one's going to like do better than me. Like it's up to me. Everything is on my fucking shoulders right now. Like Chaser, Chaser played pretty bad, just completely average.

It was fucking, I think I remember at the event his fucking communication was so bad. He was just like dead silent. I don't know if lifestyle, lifestyle is never really placed at the top. He's maybe gotten like top eight a few times, but like it was sort of just we were, I don't even know how that, how it came down to that to like get those players. But because didn't, wasn't that right after Stella left and then Cleet left or did Cleet retire or did he leave as well? He pretty, he just quit. He just quit. Stella left and he was like, he saw you and Mike was like, yeah.

Stellar had the opportunity because we didn't qualify for X games. Yeah, I think it was like the top six teams made it to X games and we didn't make it. And then he got an offer and then the rest of his history. And then I know I had some like opportunities to make a change. I mean, I couldn't leave Optic, but, well, I mean, I could leave Optic, but I didn't want to leave Optic. I wanted to stay Optic, but like, I didn't want to like drop Mike or I don't know. I just because like it was like Mike joined up. Mike joined Optic.

He started the Halo team. I joined him, Ace, Clet. And it was like that was top two my favorite teams ever probably. Mike Ace. Me, yeah, me, Mike, Ace, and CLEet. How's he doing? I think he works at 3-4-3.

Really? Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. He'll come into my chat sometimes. And I'm like, dude, what's going on at this studio? What's going on out with this studio, Cleet, huh? Dude.

They don't just like type of smiley in my chat. Dude, you had, wow, that just hit me for a throwback. What, that voice? That voice, yeah. What's going on? Dude, he is so funny. Mom. Dude, he is so funny.

He's the most, like, unknown funny person ever. Oh, it's not like known in the Halo scene? In the Halo, like, the pros, all they're hilarious. Like, maybe some ams, no, but like, It's yeah, he's like my top two funniest. I don't even know who I'd put in front of him, but like he's one of my favorite people ever. Dude. Like we went to Germany as a team and it was so fucking hilarious, man.

It was so funny. That's when like, what was I going to say? I forgot what I was going to say. Oh, no, I have him added on Pokemon Go. So that's my one interaction with Cleet even though I don't play Pokemon Go anymore But that dude that shit was wild So many people we were watching you guys play best of Or fucking single elimination best at three tournaments every Saturday

And you guys would grind every week and I just go down I remember going down there with just like a cup of almond milk and was just sitting behind you guys watching We fucked ourselves in the I think it was the first tournament we what did happen y'all choked in the first tournament we choked in the first tournament

I forget what we placed I think we got like top 16 and I think it was like a best of three it was a best of three dude that was so fucking stupid single a limb yeah and like scrims and stuff we're solid we're like trading maps

with teams and stuff like we weren't horrible like we were definitely a top 18 but it's just like we we fucked up the first tournament like choked against we probably played like a solid we probably excuse me probably played like an underrated team like a

like oh shit this is going to be like a tough match but we should definitely win and then just like holy fuck like we didn't play good and then I was like whatever man we just practice every day bounce back next week and then next week fucking every week after

that we're playing sentinels for like top fucking whatever you literally played CLG four weeks straight for top eight. Yeah. In a single-o-lim tournament. Yeah, we were just cocked from that from that point in one.

Yeah. So, like, that did not help at all with Halo 5, or for my-H-L-5. That's when the fucking Reddit turned against you guys. I was so pissed. I never. I may have looked at the Reddit once, but, yeah, never. But, yeah, that fucked us for HAL-5

for sure. Then Stellar left. That was such a fun, like, basis. like landing in the basement. The shit was fun. I think there's like a picture of thing of like you and Bose sitting behind us just like watching.

Dude, that that like month was so much fun. And that was the first time that felt like there was hype around another esport in Optic. Yeah. Just because like people loved Mike already. Like there's mics in all the videos

and then you are in all, you were like picking up steam then too. And that was like a couple months after you threw up on the floor. Yeah, people started loving me at that. that point yeah and then cleat and stellar drawing and we're like still vlogging and stuff and like yeah they're probably appearing in like hex videos or just they're fucking appearing and like people

i don't know it's just like such a like fun team and we just like sort of made it fun and like stellar sort of was just there laughing at everything and we're like not picked on him but it was sort of like he's the quiet guy so it's like we sort of just like poke at him that like that picture of those videos of stellar before he had the long hair he was like a short he just looked like a kid he was how old was he

I never even thought about that I don't even know how if I was to guess his age now I'd say like he's 25 so he was like 18 yeah he was probably like oh he should he's probably like 18 19 20 something like that

just moves to a house I didn't even realize that at the time we were like 24 25 26 I think it did take I could be completely making this up, but I think it did take, like, not convincing his mom, but, like,

Mike had to talk to someone or something. Maybe, yeah. I think he was, like, that young to where it's, like, this first time, like, just being a gamer nerd. It's like, your parents are you seeing you being, like, sheltered in your room, and then it's like, I'm gonna go over, fly to Chicago

for, I don't even know how long we were there, like, a few weeks or a month. Something like that. Yeah. It's good times. That was so fun. Some of my favorite memories. Where did they sleep? I wonder where they slept.

I think maybe Seth had it moved in yet, so they were probably... Oh, I bet you they were in the theater room. Because I don't think Seth had moved... No, Seth definitely had not moved in yet. They were in the theater room, I think. That's so funny, dude. They were... Bro, that team going to Germany was so funny.

We went to... We got invited to... Halo 4 was about to come out, And it was like a pre-tournament, like before Halo 4 even came out, we were there like a week before the drop and we were there for a tournament. We're playing Halo 4?

Like never really played the game. We're playing against like some UK teams, but like they fly, or 3-4-3 or whatever, like flies us out because we were the most like popular Halo team just being out there. Yeah. They fly us out. They put us up in a,

I feel so nasly right now. They put us up in some random ass hotel and some random ass town. Like when I'm talking town, I'm like, think of a hometown. Like, think of a hometown from North Carolina. Hagerstown. We're in fucking Hagerstown of fucking Dublin, Germany or wherever the Cologne. Was it Dublin or Cologne? I don't know.

Okay. But we were in some just basic ass town. No one's, I would say 80% of. the places we went, they didn't speak English. The hotel we were at didn't, which it was like almost not like a hotel, but it didn't have AC.

Well, apparently that's like sort of a thing over there to just not have AC. Didn't have AC, nothing but fucking sparkling water. We like kind of made friends with the the front desk girl. She was like sort of our age. And like she like led us. take the, you had to like rent bikes, but you just like let us take them and we just like ride

around and like we fucking got shit on in the tournament. Dude, I'm not gonna lie, something, it felt that was the worst tournament experience I've ever felt like the lights on the main stage were literally blinding that felt like crazy input delay. It was just, it felt so shit. It didn't even feel real. That's the Zuma effect. If you get shit on, just say the lights were affecting you. That was the first time lights ever did anything to me but yeah we got shit on and then but they they like three for three had like stuff planned it was uh do they have packs over there is it a packs like a packs like a dream hacker yeah it was like a big like event that like Kayla was also included in but we got knocked out and then like packs or whatever the hell we're at

or 3-4-3, like, had, like, a boat party, um, some party, like, like, different nights. One night was, like, a boat party. One night was, like, a, they didn't rent out of club, but it's like a large, I think they rented, like, a section of the club, and, like, some of it was, like, outside, and it was just so fucking fun. And, like, we would go to that stuff, fun as fuck.

The UK Halo players were so fun. They were, yeah, they were so fun They turned into like some of my favorite people Um But yeah, we would just, it'd be like daytime And we like wake up, we go Try to find food because No one speaks English

We ride the bikes around We like get drinks, we're basically like drunk riding our bikes around Like, it's not good We're like just fucking We're just fucking with Ace Like it's just me and Kalita Just like fucking around with Aaron

Taking like stupid we went on the long-ass bike ride and like Aaron's hair was like just sticking like straight up and he just has like a, we're like sitting down drinking or like eating or something he has like a beer in front of him his hair just straight up it just looks dumb as fogg

I think I think Cleet made it one of his emotes on his Twitch channel Oh it was so funny man That was definitely I would say that team And then my 09-9-9th team me, D, D, in the clutch and cloud,

or my top two teams. Good old days, man. Those are good days. Dude, when you, every time you, every time somebody says the, every time somebody says Halo 4, the fucking sound of that BR hits my brain and it pisses me off.

It sounds like 10 cans. Yeah. I don't even really, yeah, it's two. You didn't even get unzumed in that game. It's so fucking bad. Every time I, and like Hex

Hex like yelled at me Because like Halo is my lane Like there's opportunities for me in Halo And he's like stop fucking like talking shit about Halo infinite or Halo 5 or 343 or someone from 343 or who's in charge How I just always like Well say shit complain about shit

He's like stop fucking complaining about it like Yeah This is like your lane like capitalize off it But it's just like It's fucking hard when like Halo's my game and I like grow up playing Halo 1, play Halo 2, play Halo 3. Halo Reach, I thought it was solid. Well, not the first year, but after they did like no bloom no sprint.

Yeah. And then 3-4-3 takes over and it turns into hate the first drops Halo 4. I'm like, this shit fucking sucks. There were like no big tournaments for it. I'm like, yeah, this shit's trash. Then they drop Halo 5, hated that as well. It felt like shit. now they drop Halo Infinite

it's just like I just don't know I like it's hard it's really hard to just like support yeah imagine I've always thought that like between every it seems like every e-sport that I've gotten like really into they've had

some sort of like struggle scene like there's a it's been a struggling scene I know I shot the this has been 10 years I shot the Halo team I shot the the call of duty team shot the gears team. I've been watching Super Smash Bros.

Melee for eight years. And it's like all of those scenes just, like, just imagine if you were like, hey, I want to play a video game. What game should I get addicted to? And you got addicted to CSGO. It's like, you're set. You're still playing.

Like, that's got to be so dope. Yeah. You're still like, oh, it's Dust 2's next map. Like, that's so sick. I wonder if they're, they got to be, Like, do changes happen in it? I don't know. Like, do changes happen to where pros are like,

God, this game fucking sucks now. This shit is so trash. I mean, every game is like that in a sense, but, like, if you play Counterstrike, if you play Valerite, if you play League of Legends, like, you got it pretty good. Yeah, for sure.

Like, you know your game is, like, there's not going to be a random change where the next game is going to be a completely different. developer like imagine CSGO comes out with a new game their sprint they're sliding sliding wall jumping yeah like yeah like it would be people would be like what the fuck that's exactly what's yeah that's sort of yeah that's what's happening gears cod halo and then in smash they just stopped carrying altogether they're like yeah we don't even want you guys to throw tournaments what is i thought well no smash did change but like what it's a bunch of different smash

But the thing with Smash is something that I've never seen in the other e-sport where like Imagine if Halo came out like Halo Infinite comes out and you got like a bunch of people play it a bunch of people like it But a ton of people are like yeah It's not not for me and so the Halo 3 scene is still so big that they're throwing majors That's kind of what's happening in smash is the newest game is always gonna have a scene like Ultimate right now I think it's called Ultimate has a scene but like melee will all like melee will always throw majors and melee came out in 2003 right something like that so it's like they're playing a 20 year old game and still having majors for it yeah that's

crazy that there's a company that's willing to keep that going because usually it's like wonder how that is working because it's weird because it's also like Nintendo could technically shut it down, but the melee scene is like so passionate that like they do shut down a lot of tournaments. What? There'd be like riots. They'd be like riots. They do shut down like the original.

Nintendo legitimately shuts down a lot of melee tournaments. So to the point where like Evo, which is like the cod champs of fighting game tournaments, like they don't host Smash anymore. Dude, it is hot as it's hot as fuck. Just say it.

Just say it. What? Do we have outro music? How long are we in? An hour and 10 minutes. Okay. I have to piss so bad anyway. Sorry guys. Do we have any if I got outro music? DJ Emac Craig spin my fucking shit.