The Flycast - TWITCH FINALLY DID IT, EVERYONE’S LEAVING | The Flycast Ep. 51
Episode Date: September 28, 2022Check out the OpTic Podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/optic-podcast/id1542810047 https://open.spotify.com/show/25iPKftrl0akOZKqS0wHQG MB01VRXLRVBBYYQ TWITCH FINALLY DID I...T, EVERYONE’S LEAVING | The Flycast Ep. 51
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All right, Matt.
I'll see you my brother.
I appreciate you setting this up for me, dog.
Oh, yeah, big bro.
We'll see you next time, all right.
Appreciate you.
We'll see you when you get back to the,
when I get back to the studio.
I'll see you when you get back there.
Yeah, I'll see you, bro.
I'll see you, Matt.
Well, I'm out.
Jesus, man.
He can't ever leave fast enough.
It's just like he wants to.
It's like he wants to be in it.
He just stands.
You guys can't see, but he like stands behind the camera with his headbands on,
just smiling.
It's like, hey man
It's like kind of it's like hard to do this
When you're just behind the camera
Like smiling
Yeah
And he always asks like if we need anything
Like I know I brought my own drink
Yeah
Yeah
I brought my own drink man
Like
Kick rocks kid
Uh anyways
Anyways
What episode
Are we on
400
50
The last episode I think was episode 50
Really?
Yeah, because we always make the joke,
and so I never, like, actually look.
It had 50 episodes in five years?
50 episodes in two months, right?
Oh, yeah.
Something like that.
Yeah, two months.
Damn, not the Nadia Warzone cheat.
It only got 55K views in one day, I guess.
The cheating shit kind of fell out.
Oh, shit.
We got 55K in a day.
Yeah, hell yeah.
Wait, what's our title?
What's our title?
I meant to text the group chat and be like,
yo,
we have to say like Nadia cheats.
Oh,
no,
whoever made the thumbnail,
it looks like she's on the podcast with us.
Really?
Yeah,
like shout out clickbaiting and shit.
Wait,
get scammed,
guys.
What's our title?
Nadia cheats.
Addressing the war zone cheating chaos.
And look at the,
look at the thumbnail.
No,
that's a good one.
It's a good one.
It's a good one.
Whoever did that.
Yeah,
I was going to text a group chent and say,
like,
hey,
we got to put this in it.
that's a fucking imagine if like we actually had her on the podcast she did a podcast with
Jake uh Jake Lucky oh yeah yeah yeah I saw clips of that I saw clips I didn't I didn't watch the
whole thing I should I should have watched it but we're only on episode 50 and it's like it's so
is there any popular I was talking about this with my stream is there any popular podcast
that it's just the same people every single podcast
I feel like you need guess.
Tiny meat, small meat, gang.
That, that one.
Actually, no, they started having guests, too.
Cody Co.
And everyone fucking has guests.
This shit's hard to fucking do.
Cody Co.
and his, and his duo.
Like, imagine if we actually did an episode every week since we started.
It's like, what?
I mean, we'd be on episode like a thousand.
I know, but like, what the fuck?
What would we talk about?
What's there to talk about?
I mean, there's always shit.
I mean,
this week
the story writes itself
this week
well I think this
this is on you for this one
I mean a lot of shit happen
what's one
what happened
Twitch band
Because I'm gonna
Twitch band who
Gambling
Oh yeah I saw that
Twitch cut
Twitch cut from 70
30
back to 50 50
Now doesn't that only kick in
if you
After a hundred K
100,000
Yeah
I saw some people tweeting
Like are you fucking kidding me?
And I was like, I don't think you're
I don't think you're having this problem
It's like I if I
If I'm like consistent
It's like I might have that problem
We'll see
But it's like I don't think you're
This affects you
I mean it kind of sucks for
Yeah that's a fucking lot
It's crazy
Yeah
Because we have to split it between three people
Yeah
It's a big cut for us.
Yeah.
I mean, and you guys are streaming every day
eight hours a day.
So it's like that's...
Now, I can definitely feel it for...
I mean, XQC is going to kick in next week.
Today.
Yeah, it's going to kick in today.
Yeah, it doesn't start till next summer, though.
Actually, the thing is, is people keep saying
for like the XQCs and the Nick Mercs and things like the,
and like, and for the streamers like that,
that they're going to kick in, but...
Or that they're going to go back to 50-50.
Dude, those guys are...
signed to Twitch. There's no way that
they're getting 50-50.
Like, yeah.
Castro and Nick and
and XQC and
Hassan and there's no way those guys
are getting 50-50. There's no way.
But for the rest of us, that got
like grandfathered into the 70-30 stuff,
like the only reason we got it is because of the
optic back in the day. Yeah, same.
Yeah, that shit's
going to kick in eventually. And it's
going to affect, I mean, those
people have it. They've
gotten it so good over the past few years
that it's like they're fucking not that they're not to be like
all they're set for life who gives a fuck but it's like they
when you have 60,000 subs I understand that it's gonna take
an insane amount of money out of their checks or whatever
but it's like for the people to where it's like this is literally
their income yeah and like they don't have these crazy
sponsor deals they're not literally partnered with Twitch
it's like those are the people that it's gonna kind of like fuck oh it sucks
Switch has been good to us, TST-wise, because they've brought us a few, like, front-page streams and, you know, and, you know, we're, we're, like, the billboard for some of their sponsors, for, like, some of their, like, sponsor campaigns, and those, those are really good to us.
So, I'm not too, you know, strong up about it, because as long as Twitch still, like, puts confidence into TST to, you know, sell whatever their, you know,
their sponsor campaigns are, then we should be doing well.
You know, we used to rely only strictly on subscribers, but Twitch subs.
But now, like, the YouTube channel is doing pretty well.
Our subscriber count is back into a pretty stable spot.
And then Twitch has been, you know, working with our agency to help or like to get us
some good, like campaign.
So that I am not too worried about it.
but uh no it it but it is a it is a big hit for a lot of people that were in that 70 30 split and
and twitch is their main source of income yeah that's like something yeah thank god i got in the
70 30 split because sometimes i'd like do the math where it's like say 2,000 subs instead of like
times two times about 3.5 and it's like damn this really does like especially like month after
month after month it's like that really does make a big difference that shit adds up quick i remember i
think it was either envoy or or shotsy i was like yo yo yo hitch like can you get me into the 703
shit yeah one of them is getting like 50 50 or whatever and i's like a lot of a lot of like anybody
who's been partnered in like the last two three years like they're all getting 50 50 and then people
be like how how do i get 70 30 and i'm like dude i i got lucky i don't i don't even know i mean i think
i got this in like 2015 or so yeah 2016 for sure like something
It was brand new.
But, yeah, I mean, so that'll be interesting.
And people, it's crazy because, like, if Twitch, I think had a pretty big W or I would say it's a
W about the, like, banning gambling.
But, I mean, for some people's a big W.
I might be on the different side of it.
What do you mean by Big W?
Like, you think it's good for the overall human race?
Like that kind of W?
I would
I don't know
I don't know how I feel about the gambling thing
But I'm saying from a public outlook
From a PR stance as a W
But then they go
Immediately to the
Hey by the way
You know gambling's gone
But also
You guys are going from 7030 to 50 50
50 so I feel like
Why do you think they went from
I do want to touch on the gambling stuff
But why do you think they went from the 7030
to the 50-50
Well, they put out like a statement about it.
It all has to do with like cost of the running the website.
Like whether the servers and all that and their staff and paying their business and stuff.
I mean, they probably are looking at like we could like look how much more we would make.
Yeah.
But I don't even think Twitch is profitable.
So I think they're trying to, I think they're trying to break even.
I don't think they're trying to.
How are they not profitable?
I don't.
And I'm still almost confused with this business.
business shit about like being profitable not profitable it's like I know the CEOs the
higher-ups these guys are multi-millionaires millionaires so it's like where's this like
where's the money coming from where's the money coming from where's the money going I'm
sure their staff is getting paid really well when Amazon Amazon buys Twitch Twitch that's
when Twitch Prime comes out and Twitch Prime is free $5 for everyone monthly and that $5 is coming
of some budget somewhere.
Yeah.
But it's not because it's getting paid to the creators.
And now you have, how much money do you think?
$5 a month off of Twitch Prime is probably like,
I mean, how many people you think are using Twitch Prime?
Like 700,000?
I feel like that's where most of my, well,
besides maybe resubs or something,
but like most new subs.
Resubs are even, there's a lot of resub.
Yeah, resub Twitch Prime.
That's another five bucks.
I feel like most of my subs are Twitch primes or just random gifted.
They're probably losing what, like $5 million.
But they had to have gotten an insane fucking check from...
Oh, for sure.
I mean, they had to have.
But it was definitely whenever Amazon bought Twitch, then Twitch Prime comes out.
That was what, seven years ago, five years ago, six, six, seven years ago.
28, yeah, so I think five years ago is when Twitch Prime came out.
right before gifted subs
and
dude
like you gotta think
how many people are using it
and how
like how much money
that is losing them
I just don't care
I don't I mean I don't
I know these guys are rich as fuck
I know so it's like
and I know Twitch is a huge
successful number one
YouTube hasn't passed
Switch hasn't it
but like
not for streaming
number one
gaming streaming platform
it's like
someone's making
I just wonder
I just wonder like
did they really have to do it
or is just like a selfish
yeah
no I just don't understand
business is so weird
because
someone's making a shit ton of money
whether the company
is losing money or like
think about infinite
infinite biggest failure
in e-sports history
we did that shit
I feel like we're talking about
infinite every podcast
but the higher ups at infinite
those motherfuckers
we're cashing.
Yeah.
And it's not like when the business goes on, when the, when the company goes under,
they don't give that money back.
They still cashed out.
Who's losing?
Like who's?
The investors.
The investors that put $20 million down, they don't get that money back.
But they're just so rich that.
I mean, that's what they do.
But are they sitting there like, oh my God, this is 20 mil.
Yes.
Really?
Yeah.
But this is only like a select few people that are sitting there like, are you fucking,
you guys fucking choke.
You think about like an investor that you got so much.
much money that and I could be I could be fucking this all up too there's probably people that are like that all they do is like business shit and they're like holy shit these guys don't know anything but from my understanding there's like firms and stuff but I'm thinking I'm talking about one specific investor he puts 20 million dollars dollars down on your shorts company and he's hoping that you sell the fuck out of those shorts and eventually he'll get us 20 million plus more back if that business fails he's got a 10 million
thing over here that it skyrocketed it's a 3d printing company and now that one's making a hundred
million so he's getting his money back plus some so it's just a game it's like checkers and chess with
yeah hundreds of millions of dollars and i guess these guys are so rich to where it's like it's like
20 million to them is like me putting a thousand dollars in bitcoin and just like hoping it just
hoping it goes well yeah well shit yeah i mean i think and i think that's where like the that's where like the
That's where the, for a lot of business, you're just kind of gambling with your investors.
I wonder how they get into investing in something like Halo Infinite.
Or do they invest into Halo Infinite or do they invest into 3-4-3?
It would be some other.
But 3-4-3 is owned by Microsoft or Microsoft works with, I don't know.
I don't know how it works up there.
I don't either.
at that echelon.
But I just wonder if, like, someone, like, some dad's kid is a Halo fan.
And he's, like, hyping him up.
Like, trust me.
And, like, he knows a few people that are Halo fans.
And it's like, now, they've been working on this for, like, five, six years.
And he's like, all right, I think this is going to be big.
And then it comes out.
And then you think it's going to be big.
But it's just, like, I wonder if they look at that.
And they're like, they can't be devastated at that.
at that point in their life
I mean they're losing 20 mil
but it's like who knows how much money
they fucking have
like I wonder if you think they're devastated
or do you think they're actually sitting there
watching Halo Infinite just like quickly dwindle
like hypothetically if you invested
if you're an investor of Halo
they're paying attention to it like oh my god
this shit is tanking it doesn't matter
how many things these big name investors
like Mark Cuban he's probably invested
in 200 things
or maybe more, I don't know
but it's not like he
knows everything
he knows everything
it's his money
it's 100
it's tens if not hundreds
of millions of dollars
of his and his company's money
yes he's everyone knows
what's going on
that's like when
I'm just surprised people would invest
into Halo Infinite
infinite I don't
like I said I don't know if that might just be a separate
company shit
all on its own
I don't know how investment works
like outside of
entertainment like i almost it almost hurts me to say because like i know a lot of people that work
on the game and but i feel like all i do is end up talking shit about it and it's almost like i
can't believe they would invest into my friends over here fucking idiots oh man when is when is bt htch
can't get some fucking respect a halo team yeah why aren't you why aren't you playing in that
halo three thing there is um well i was still on the fence about even
going to Orlando.
Literally just got my ticket last night.
Oh, yeah.
Still don't have a hotel.
So it was like, they messaged me, I think a week ago.
I didn't even open the DM.
But I saw Heinz from, he works for 343 now.
He DM me.
I didn't even open it because I'm a sack of shit.
Like, God forbid I open it.
He sees, I read it.
I give a response of like, hey, not sure if I'm going.
God forbid I do that.
Why not I just ignore completely?
He's considered the best teammate in Halo history.
Yeah, why would I?
just a nice guy.
Yeah,
just doing his job.
One of the nicest guy
in Halo history
doing his job.
Like,
he's reaching out to me
for a Halo 3
throwback.
Everyone's going to love
seeing it.
So it's like,
God forbid I
show any sort of respect.
But I saw the DM
and I was like,
I was like,
fuck,
do I want to play in that?
And like,
I've talked to a few people
I'm going to end up
hanging out with that Orlando.
But you know how my events go.
Is Bay going?
Yeah.
Oh, so you have to get your own hotel room.
Yeah.
Um,
but you,
know how I get at events.
Like it's gonna,
we're gonna land Friday.
It's gonna be a hotel bar.
Mm-hmm.
And then Saturday,
I think I'm doing something with Optic,
but it's just,
it's gonna turn into some like little mini adventures,
probably a bunch of drinking.
Saturday night,
I think we're going with Sabas and his girl
to some Halloween horror night.
I'm sure we're gonna end up.
Oh shit.
You're going to Halloween horror nights?
Is that a big thing?
Dude,
that shit is so fun.
Because I,
it's dead ass so fun.
I said that to Michelle and she was like,
what?
I was like, what the fuck?
No, Halloween Horn Nights is.
I don't know what the fuck this is, but...
You're talking about in Universal?
Universal Studios?
I don't know.
Alexis and I went...
The boss's girl just said something about it.
Alexis and I went to that the year before COVID hit.
And it is so fun.
It's like a...
They were saying it was like a haunted house type thing.
So they literally shut down Universal Studios,
except for people that have like Halloween Hornite's tickets.
And they have like 40...
So like Universal Studios is like a...
It's like...
It's a theme park, but there's also studios where they, like, shoot, like, movies and stuff and videos.
And so they take all those huge studio warehouses and they turn them into haunted houses.
What do you do? Just wander?
No, so, like, you wait in line and then you, like, walk through the haunted houses, but they're all themed.
So when we went, Stranger Things had just come out.
And so, like, literally, there's, like, demigorgans off, like, it's like Hollywood-level, like, makeup.
Oh, really?
And there's in the there's like actors that'll jump out and scare you.
And then the music.
So it's not a haunted house in Hagerstown, Maryland at like some cornfield.
No, no, no, no.
That's what I thought because I went to, I went to horror, carry horror fest or whatever.
And it's a cornfield in Kerry, North Carolina.
And there's a guy with a chainsaw.
Yeah.
And it's not that.
That's what I know of haunted house is to be.
It's not that.
And it's also cool because everyone's going on the, on the, um,
going through the
scary, what is it called?
The haunted houses.
They're all going through those.
So the rides are typically
wide open.
So if you want to ride,
if you want to ride the Hulk 15 times,
you can because pretty much everyone is going through.
We can ride rides and shit.
Yeah.
It's really cool.
It's the coolest
theme park experience I've ever had.
Okay, well, nice.
Yeah, we're going to do that.
I mean, hopefully we can get tickets and stuff.
I haven't literally just figured out
all this stuff last night.
But we're going to do that.
Dan, who knows if we're going to, like, Sabah said some of his homies are going to be,
are going to, like, come up to Orlando.
So it's like, who knows what it'll, might go to the club.
And I just, I just know I'm going to, like, by Sunday, I'm going to wake up and just be like,
oh, my God, this is the last.
Like, I'm down to show up and watch the optic matches, but it's like, but it, it would also
be cool to be in it.
Stavis has been, like, the coolest edition of, like, or from, like, the merger.
Like, he is such a cool fucking dude.
Yeah.
Him and his girl are like, and they move.
like they went all in too they were like oh yeah like optics we're going to be joining optic
right now even his like best friend from miami moved down here with his best friend in his
best friend's girl like they have their own place like they moved they were like you know it's
we'll we'll try living in dallas as well when i uh when i when i when i figured out i was going to
have like the the corporate role or whatever i started like uh like looking at all the talent from you know
from envy and who was going to be merging and stuff.
And I didn't know,
I don't,
I didn't know much about like TikTok creators or vertical content creators.
Some of his videos are kind of cringe,
but it's like,
it's the,
what he's like,
he's like singing his Spanish shit.
He has two.
That's what,
so he has his gaming TikTok that's like really big.
And he spends a lot of time like him and his editor,
his editor is really good.
And so he also,
he almost has like a million followers on that.
And then when I was looking for him, I was like, wait, who is this guy?
Same name.
And I was like, oh, shit, it's him.
And it's a thirst trap, TikTok.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
I don't even want to say it's cringe because it's like, it's working.
It's TikTok and it's working.
He's getting a million fucking views.
Yeah.
Just sitting there.
All he listens to is like Spanish music.
Yeah, like reggaeton.
Regetone.
Oh, that's, and like, he's like smiling, dancing.
Him and George were friends before the merger.
Yeah, he was like
One time I went on vacation
And him and Blake was like
Yeah, we're gonna play with these two like
Spanish creators
Blake was like I'm fucking down
And it was him and his buddy
And it was him and his buddy
That's funny
I was like hell yeah, that's dope
He's like he's really big on TikToks
Yeah they're cool as fuck
Like they always have like they're always smiling
Like I walk in and he's like
Hey what's up bro
Even his girl is just like hi
Blake always said that about Optic
It's like we're we're a lot of fun
but everyone in Optic except for Seth
is very like
when we're together
it's very like hey what's up man
and then Blake's like
comes in with all this energy
and he's like I don't know what to do with it
and then like thank God for like
Sevas comes in and he's like yeah
yeah literally literally
we need somebody to like that fire
I mean yeah Seth I would say
it's definitely the most
sort of energetic
like even at the baseball game or whatever
like Dalton Shultz
the tight end for the Cowboys
like comes up
I see sadly, he's like, all smiles.
He's, right.
So that's so much, like, social energy.
He does.
And I just feel like the rest of us are very.
We're like, yeah, like, what are you?
What's that, man?
And it's like, do we got to, like, is it, do we think we're cool or something?
Like, what?
For me, it's all anxiety.
Yeah.
Same.
I don't think I'm cool at all.
Yeah.
For me, it's like, I'm not really drunk enough to, like, go be to start doing my roundabouts of, like, to where.
Yeah.
Like, say I'm at a cot event, like, you're,
the cod bar or the hotel bar at some cod event and like you get to that point of drunkness
where it's like you sort of just start wandering i see tj haley and i'm like yo what's up well
i would never like i just didn't have the fucking but like unless i'm at that point it's sort of like
i'll sit here and just enjoy my maybe say what's up but yeah we're all sort of like that um
so yeah we're gonna be hang out with them and then i don't know we'll see sunday maybe i maybe i
fucking should open the DM and see
if I can get in that.
They did want me to be a part of it.
And it would be fun. I think it's Halo 3, right?
You'd have to be in analysis.
It might be too late now.
It's definitely too late.
Yeah.
It's triggers down versus instinct.
It's already.
Oh, really?
It's already been announced.
Yeah.
Who's the teams?
Oh, would they have wanted,
maybe they didn't even want me to play?
That's what I was.
Uh, oh, fuck.
now. I'm definitely not fucking comment.
Actually, commentating might work out better.
Yeah. Because I could go there.
So it's Best Man, Heinz hysteria snip down versus
Elamite lunch, neighbor Walsh.
Nice. Instinct triggers. Okay, yeah, I for sure wasn't playing that.
Yeah. Oh, that'll be fun. Maybe they, well, shit,
maybe there is an opportunity then.
Because usually how I do it is wake up. I end up being hungover
from the night before, drink a little bit,
head down to the venue,
maybe grab another drink.
So it might be fun to,
maybe commentate or something like that.
That might be fun.
We'll see, though.
I for sure I'm not playing then.
No.
Or maybe they were trying to get me to play.
Maybe they wanted BTH
and then they settled for Walsh.
Me, Clutch.
I don't know who else they'd get.
No way Cloud or Demon D's.
Yeah, they wanted Maniac,
but I guess they had to settle for Walsh.
maybe you might you might well this is this ain't gonna come out till after the event but you might
see me up there we'll see maybe i should i'll open the DM um let's talk about the gambling
because i've literally had this tweet sitting here just waiting to say this this is i'm on
this side of the game you didn't say the word horrors did you fucking zoom what is that
what's talking about rogue what was it zoom is i don't have
no idea. I just saw people like being mad
at Zuma. Zuma went fucking rogue on the
timeline. What did you? What did he do?
He said, uh, they'll ban gambling, but
they won't do anything about the Twitch horrors
or something. I was like,
come on, Tommy.
It's funny because I kind of agree
with them. I mean,
I don't think... People are going to call me soft, but
like, I don't, I don't, I don't... I don't think
the quote, unquote, horrors
has... I don't think, I mean, I don't
really think they should... I don't know,
there is a whole just they have a just chatting and they have a pools beach and something else so it's like what it
it's not just strictly gaming.
I think the basis of what Tommy was saying is 100% accurate.
There are a bunch of creators that are making overly sexualized content for possibly underage viewers.
For underage viewers.
And I'm not saying.
Young impressionable viewers.
I'm not saying girls in bikinis.
That's not what I'm saying.
because I date a body painter who paints her chest
And she does it very well
And I'm not saying you can't
I'm not saying you can't
Your girl is not on that level
That's what I'm saying
And I'm not saying every girl that wears a bikini
Or every girl that that you know
Is wearing something that you know
Is dressing up to look nice
Are we talking about girls in bikinis
In their apartment would a blow
inflatable bowl?
That is literally
almost licking or sucking on their microphone,
you know what you're doing
and you're doing it for a purpose.
And I'm not saying,
I think that's fucking insane.
I think it's insane that it's on the,
on the platform,
but I do think it's crazy.
It's on the platform, the Twitch platform,
which is, I mean, you just look at it
like a streaming platform, but they're,
I don't know, they have a whole fucking section
that says pools, beaches, and shit like that.
So it's like, obviously other content can be included.
So it's not
I mean you think of Twitch
You think gaming platform
Of gaming streaming
Which you don't think gambling
Either
Yeah
So I think it's kind of a
I think it's a win that
That slots are off
Because I think poker is still
I think poker is very entertaining
To watch
And so if you're gambling
Playing against another person
Playing poker
I think that's
So is poker band
No poker's not banned
I think it's only slots
in like blackjack stuff
where it's completely random
yeah blackjack though
I think blackjack should stay
in my opinion because there's skill
involved with blackjack
and it's fun to watch people that are good at blackjack
but but what I always thought
was kind of like I don't know
I don't even know how I got so popular
I guess shock value
is just people just click in
click in slots
because I can
I mean I've watched it and I don't give a fuck
about gambling or watching.
I can see how that would be hurtful
or possibly
hurtful for
you know gambling addicts
to watch. I don't like
that some people
are sponsored by the shit
and it's like they'll give them money
to lose or win.
It's very CSGO
lotto-ish. Yeah so
it's like
if someone's going to lose I think they should be losing
their money. It shouldn't be this money.
that they don't even give a fuck about losing.
Yeah.
And promoting it to people who have to use their own money.
People should see the real pain.
Yeah.
If you're like, oh, you just lost 50 grand betting on one slot.
But it's not stake.com's money.
It's actually your money.
Yeah.
The.
No.
For the for the whores, I don't, I don't know.
I don't really, I don't know if I have an opinion on it.
I, there's, I don't think it should be a deceit.
discussion of like the
think of another word
beside whores I don't want to just keep saying
whores because I truly don't give a fuck
what people do on the I mean
whenever I said the word
or the sexually explicit
he should not have said that word
for the sexually explicit streamers
on Twitch I don't know man
I don't really think it should be on there
but I really don't care
I think what Tommy was saying has a little bit of
meaning or has a has some fact
behind it too he said like if
if I didn't say the word whores no one would
care what I just said, which is true.
No.
Because if he would have said, what about the people that are sexually, that are being overly
sexual towards possible underage viewers?
No one would have cared.
People would have scrolled right past that tweet.
Yeah.
But he said whores.
And now all of a sudden, Hassan is looking him up on stream.
Yeah.
And Jake Lucky's tweeting out screenshots of him.
And people are talking about it.
God damn.
you look hot i'm a basketball jersey guy now last two podcasts have been this fucking cheap
shit that i got from like an oakley shot i was like you know what i'll take those literally
got three of them that's why i got these from i got these from a twitch stream really yeah um
yeah people just don't even acknowledge his the point of his tweet because of because he said the
word of the word he said if he said sluts it would have been the same thing and he was like i wasn't
talking about gender i was like you weren't talking about gender and i was like you weren't talking about gender
And I understand what people were talking about coming back at him.
Because, like, if you say the word whores, people are going to, people are going to assume,
you might not be saying a certain thing, but a lot of your audience is going to say, is going to twist that.
I bet you take Zuma, take anyone who responded and it was like, why would you fucking say that?
Like, did Hassan or whatever saying?
I think Brooke was the first person that said something.
Besides a female.
And then Hassan comes or myth said something to him.
Myth, Hassan.
I bet if any of these people in real life,
if you're having like a casual conversation,
it's like, how the fuck,
say I'm sitting there at some like gamer party.
And I'm like,
how the fuck did gambling get banned,
but the horrors on Twitch don't?
Like, no one would fucking say,
like if it was a casual conversation,
yeah,
like no one would say anything.
But I mean,
it is fucking different when you're just tweeting it to your 500,000 followers.
And I think that's the issue.
The issue is.
is not I know what Zuma meant because I know Zuma personally.
Yeah. And I know I know I know brook and myth personally and I know at the end of the day if you sat them down on the couch together those three would have a very civil conversation because they're a lot more similar than they're than they are different. But their communities are very different. Yeah. Zuma Zuma embraced the CDL
community and they're super toxic. I got fucking fuzzies all in my head. Yeah, kind of. And then you take the.
You take that, you take the CDL
YouTube chat and put them in a room together with
offline TV, like that sort of LA
100 Thieves chat and they are very, very different.
So I think that's where they're coming from.
That's where the argument is coming from.
Yeah, you can't really say that publicly.
Can't use that word.
I don't know where I...
I would never compare that to gambling.
Where are you saying on the gambling?
thing. The gambling, I stand on the gambling thing, I think people should take some fucking responsibility for what they do with their actions. If you get into gambling, you stream. I don't like the streamers that are like, almost throwing like a pity party. Like someone borrowed a bunch of money from people, lost it all. Another dude like lost his fucking savings. And it's like someone comes and like sort of like bails him out or it's like they're, they're, they're view.
worse would start donating to them
or it's like something I don't like that
shit I think everyone should
have responsibility for
their own shit this is what Snipe Down
said he replied to
Corinna Paul Dexterto tweeted
something about Corinna saying
everyone's soft now
and that's her perspective
of gambling being banned on Twitch
and Snitdown quoted that and said
I agree with this you are responsible for your own actions
people mess up then expect pity or play
the blame on an outside source, then ignite the flames, and bring out the pitchforks to police others.
How about people just do better themselves?
Crazy concept, I know.
I don't think gambling should be banned.
I don't, I mean, I don't disagree with what he said.
I, I, there's a lot of, there's a lot of shit that, I, I, I wonder why gambling got banned.
I think you should be able to sign up on a gambling website.
I think most people probably use fucking VPNs to be in a legal.
area or something.
Yeah.
But I think you should be able to sign up on a gambling website, play slots, put your money in,
and if you lose it, you lose it.
And people can watch.
See, but if it's, if it's banned on Twitch now, people are just going to go somewhere
else and stream it.
I bet you steak, steak could start their own streaming platform.
Yeah.
And it would blow up.
I bet you it would, especially if they got Drake involved.
Yeah.
Like, Drake's a steak partner.
Like, if they said Drake is streaming.
live on steak come watch like they would flock to that steak that i think it's a bad business move
on twitch's part because i don't think that as many people are becoming gambling addicts because
people are streaming it on twitch then people are just gambling addicts in general like i don't think
it's encouraging i mean i don't think it's encouraging as much as there are other harmful things
I mean, I think there's definitely some negatives to it.
Like, I would never think of playing, putting my money in slots
until I see train wrecks or something streaming and doing it.
Like, I'd be like, I didn't really know this would exist.
Where'd I go?
What's the website?
And I would just, like, do what the fuck he's doing.
But it's like, if I lose my fucking money, that is, like,
I'm blaming train wrecks for, like, influencing me to, it's like, no, like,
that can't, like, you see.
Hitch doing an Amsterdam vodka stream and I go buy Amsterdam
Joddka, I drink, getting a wreck, fucking paralyzed neck down,
shitting my pants.
I'm not going to blame you or like, I don't know.
I mean, it's a little different, but.
It's not that different.
There's people.
That's kind of my point.
There's people that live in L.A.
that do streams where they smoke weed.
And it's like, just because one dude smoking weed on stream,
like are you going to ban
I'm assuming
weed is not pan
Is that fair to
Like say if you have an alcohol sponsor
Or someone has an alcohol sponsor
Someone's drinking on stream
Someone's smoking weed on stream
Someone's doing something
It's like is that fair to compare
What is different with that
Than like gambling?
Gambling. It's like you're seeing someone do something
It's influencing you to go do it
It's legal in some places
It's legal in some places
Why
I don't know I just don't think that
person should be responsible or like yeah it's i think that and and granted this is i think this is i
don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that twit that gambling is banned i think it can even be a
good thing in a lot of cases um i just don't know if it makes sense to ban that and not ban other
things i just think banning that is like yeah it's almost like okay then what else right
What else could be sort of...
It seemed like they banned it because it was hot at the time.
Yeah.
Like...
And everyone brought...
What happens in six months when no one's doing gambling streams anymore?
And now you just banned it because it was hot.
But it explodes somewhere else.
And people are just going to go there instead.
I don't know.
Maybe they tried to fucking...
Also, this gambling stuff is pretty convenient timing to announce their, like, the revenue split.
That's what I'm saying.
Dude, here we go.
I think it's a, it's a, because from a PR standpoint, people are going to talk positively about Twitch for banning gambling.
And I think that's a good thing.
How convenient.
But at the same time they announced the 50-50s spot.
How convenient when they decide to make one of the biggest decisions in Twitch and stop the 70-30 split to affect some of your favorite streamers.
They also ban the hottest topic in gaming or in Twitch right now.
Twitch in recent years, maybe ever.
Besides, I would say besides the hot tub streams.
Yeah, besides hot tub streams and gambling have been like the only sort of issues, I think
I've ever heard from like Twitch, but how convenient.
Yeah, I guess to wrap it all up, I don't really, I don't really care that gambling is banned.
I don't understand it, but I also don't think it's that, you know, I'm whatever about it.
and I'm also whatever about, you know,
uh,
ASMR hot tub streamers.
I don't really care either way,
but it does, I do understand both sides of both arguments.
I really do.
Yeah,
I don't think either should be banned.
Um, if I really thought of Twitch as a gaming,
just,
like just gaming,
I understand just chatting.
But like people have turned just chatting into like IRAL streams.
People have turned IRL streams in to go to the beach streams,
be on a boat,
streams, people are in bikini streams.
Then that turns into fucking, okay,
so we can be in a bikini if waters around.
So it's like, where the fuck does it end?
Not really, how is that allowed?
I can see why it's allowed.
I don't, I don't even know.
I don't know if I can see.
And some girls have been banned
that are like literally like
going to work on the fucking mic.
Those girls have been banned.
But there are also some girls that have
almost to an art.
threaded that line.
Like walk that thin-ass line
and they've been able to get around it.
So.
Yeah, I just say none of it gets banned.
That's how I feel.
They just fucking hit shit hard.
And it's like, all right, no more,
no more bikinis, no more gambling.
No more alcohol.
I don't think they'll ever do that.
I think they did,
they did the gambling thing because it was hot.
They didn't do the gambling thing.
It was perfect timing.
I don't think it did it for any moral reason.
I really don't.
And then they did it because the biggest
streamers on the platform were calling for it to be banned.
And they made a statement and they went for it.
And I think that's just where it is.
I don't know.
I don't think gambling should be banned.
Unless somebody at Twitch higher up has a family member that is, you know, that, that, that suffered from gambling addiction.
And then they were like, you know, it's my call.
I'm calling it.
And then at that point, I get it.
Hell yeah.
Go for it.
I mean, gambling's 100% an addiction.
It's a crazy addiction.
It's a crazy addiction.
I mean, I...
And it can definitely ruin your life, but it's like, that's not...
I don't know if that's how you should like...
I've known people that have just...
Just thrown away paychecks.
Just clicking buttons.
And it's like, dude, man.
It's a, it's a rough one.
That gambling addiction, I always, growing up, I always, like, wondered why?
Like, why is there a...
line you know what i mean like there's no way people get addicted to gambling but dude it's it's it's
it might be even worse than like some of like drug addictions that i've seen i mean it's definitely
on the same sort of level yeah with how much it can fucking destroy your life luckily for me
i never got into gambling because i've never won i've never felt the rush i've never felt
the rush in all i've done it's literally it's like if people are like yo let's go to the casino it's
like mm i mean it's nothing there for me might as well
drink. Yeah, I'm getting nothing out of that. It's like, I might as well go and like just like
take $500, rip it up. Yeah, exactly. It's because the house always wins. Isn't that, isn't that
the saying house always wins? Because it's true. You will never win. That's, you can win. You can win
sometimes, but if you keep playing, you will lose. Yeah. Unless, unless you play the games where you can
like actually play like, or it's actually like skillful.
Just that fucking dopamine.
It's that one hit.
You'll click that button 700 times.
But if you hit that one, that's a jackpot,
I guess that's what they're going for.
I guess that's the dopamine rush.
Yeah.
That's wild.
Never got into it.
Probably never will.
Yeah.
I'm, you know, I'm sobing shit now.
Besides alcohol.
Besides alcohol.
Fucking weed and, like,
I actually haven't smoked weed.
And I've smoked weed.
weed once in I think three weeks.
I think I'm giving up an alcohol.
And that was every, I was smoking every night.
Like, I was not a pothead by any means.
And, like, people think I'm an alcoholic at this point, but, no, it's not.
I still got control.
It's just, I pick out certain situations.
I definitely do drink too much just because I'm a fucking addict at heart, but.
Weed, though, I've pretty much quit.
somehow.
I think it's my newest girl, though.
I don't know if that makes me feel better or worse.
I thought I was going to feel great quitting weed.
I,
I,
I was sort of,
I've never had an issue with,
with weed at all.
I've had an issue with,
not like,
for me,
it was just inflating my laziness.
Oh,
okay.
Like instead of,
instead of going to the gym,
instead of like,
eating healthy and just doing these basics,
where it's like,
all right,
I know I mentally feel better
if I do these things.
If I smoke weed,
it's,
Like, all right, now I'm trying to, I'm laying on the couch for a little bit.
I'm high.
I'm anxious.
I definitely can't do it how I used to be, how I used to do.
Because when I was like 18, I used to go to work.
I used to smoke and then go to work.
And that was like a cashier dealing with people.
I just like didn't care.
I don't.
Yeah.
Then like all this like anxiety and like sort of like social anxiety.
Like sort of.
I had social anxiety as a kid, but it's like, I don't know if it's gotten worse,
but it's just like I can't be high around.
around people really yeah um i used to yeah i i i i used to
actually i it's crazy that you you get more anxiety when you smoke yeah because it i used to
grow that's why i used to i used to smoke all when i was 17 18 19 20 21 i would say i
smoked all the time really like it was like almost all day every day like it was pretty much all day
every day.
Like, I used to go to a party and I'm like, like a house party and I'm uncomfortable.
So I smoke.
Now if I did that, like a house party, I don't know no one out.
No one.
I don't know anyone there and I smoked.
I would freak out.
Like, this is the most uncomfortable shit ever.
See, like in a social setting, like, I think that's when like having a drink and like getting
a little loose.
Like that's when it helps me.
But like if I'm like, because if I'm ever like freaking out like alone or like, you know,
like just in a casual setting,
then usually, like, smoking a little bit,
like really calms everything down.
Some, the only sort of...
I don't, like, do that.
I don't, like, smoke to, like,
watch a funny movie and eat.
Yeah?
And eat pizza.
Like, I don't...
I think maybe one time in my life I did,
but I only smoke now to, like,
to, like, mellow out.
I don't know if that's...
I don't know if that's...
I don't know if that's a bad thing.
No.
I wish that.
was my case.
What's weird is I always felt like I was always like that and then my dad passed and then
like after that like I was still I was smoking every day like kind of sort of all day
throughout the day.
Then my dad passed away and then when I started smoking it was like boom all those like all
the fucking the sad like I was just so depressed so sad and it's like once I would smoke that
shit would sort of seem like it would like kind of spark it up a little bit.
it. And I think I was taking hella Addy. I was just in a bad place at the time my dad passed. So it's like, then I started smoking on top of taking Addy. And I never felt this like crazy, anxious feeling before. It was like brand new to me. And I was just like freaking out. And then so I started smoking less and less. And then one night I smoked and just had a, like, I felt like I didn't even know what an anxiety attack or a panic attack was. But I started getting really bad anxiety while smoking.
And I was like, all right, I need to like stop this.
But I was like addicted to it because it was just something I did every day for years.
Yeah.
Then I went to the T-O-N, the Halo pre-land practice with all the teams and stuff and smoke there and smoke like, we were in a circle, smoked like two blunts.
I hadn't smoked in like two weeks.
And it was like shortly after my dad passed, I was just in a shit spot.
I was probably on Addy.
And I just fucking freak the fuck out.
I had my first full-blown panic attack.
That's the one with like clutch was helping you.
or whatever.
Yeah. 16 hours of thinking my, like, heart was going to beat out of my, like, no sleep,
just laying on the couch for, maybe not six, like, at least 12 hours straight.
Like, it was so bad.
And then ever since I had that panic attack, I started getting panic attacks every time I would smoke.
And then I, so I stopped smoking because I was like, holy shit, I don't enjoy this at all anymore.
So I stopped smoking.
And then I started having them sober.
and I was just like, I was like, I'm going crazy.
I actually kind of thought I was going crazy
because I was also taking hella Adderall.
I think at that time is when I started taking benzos
because I was like, you know, you go to a doctor
after your dad passes.
You're like, I'm depressed.
I have so much anxiety.
I'm freaking to fuck out.
Like they're going to give you some sort of benzzo,
like larazapam.
So I started taking that and that's,
this was like 2011 when I started getting into that.
And then I literally thought I was like going
crazy for a while. Like I thought my, I was like, I was like, I felt like I was like seeing different.
And I think it was the Addy and like not sleeping much, but I used to go downstairs at like seven,
eight a.m. It was like, I need to go to the gas station, get food or something. I would look outside
and it reminded me of Beetlejuice. If you've ever seen that movie, it was like, at the scuff house.
No, in 2011 at my house. Like I was, I was even abusing Addy back then. But it's like, I like wouldn't
be sleeping. I go downstairs like 7 a.m.
I'm like freaking out.
I'm having a panic attack or like not,
I wouldn't even say panic attack because I've had a panic
attack and that shit was fucking awful.
I would say like an anxiety attack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like a lesser form. But I would
go outside and it just seemed like I was in
Beetlejuice. Like I literally
thought I was going fucking crazy.
Everything just looked weird.
And I was like, I'm turning into
like a schizophrenic. Like it was
I was, I don't know
the fucking point of me saying all that.
something about oh so since then in 2011 we'd like once I had my panic attack we just like flipped on me
to where it's like okay I no longer really enjoy this yeah um sometimes I'll enjoy it if I mean I would still
like even recently I quit weed for a few years but even recently I was smoking like every night
just because like I'll smoke watch TikToks for three hours yeah eat food and like that was sort of enjoying
that was an enjoyment for me
but besides that
it's like once I had that panic attack
I could no longer go out socially
in smoke yeah it no longer
calm me down or
yeah just made me uncomfortable
I didn't even know I didn't even have like
I didn't even know what like anxiety
was really
until after the scuff house
until we moved here I used to play with this guy
named Defi he was a
he was best man's like best friend
they teamed together he was on carbon
and shit at one point.
But he told me he had panic attacks.
And I was like, what the fuck does that even mean?
And this was probably like 2010, like a year before I started having mine.
I was like, I don't even really know what that.
What do you mean you're freaking out?
Or like, because some people, they have panic attacks.
They sort of just have to like stop everything and just like breathe and like, yo.
Like I'm freaking out.
I got to get off.
Like we used to play like StarCraft two together.
But I used to be like, like, what do you fucking mean?
you're having, what is a panic attack?
Yeah.
Just, you're not going to die.
Like, just tell yourself you're not going to die.
And it's like, but that is, once it hit me, I was like, I was convinced I was going to die.
Yeah.
I was like, I'm going to hold this L, not go to the hospital because I'm not going to be that guy.
I'm just going to wait for my heart to explode on this couch.
And that, that's how panic attacks will literally flip your mind into just like being so scared.
When you're out of it, when you're out of it and you look back on it, you're like,
Like, what, like...
Dude, it's fucking weird out of the mind flips like that.
It flips.
Because when you're in it, you're like, everything about life is over.
Like, I'm freaking out.
Do people around me even like me?
Does anyone love me?
Like, have I wasted all this time?
And you're just, it's like, bam, bam, bam.
And then when you're out of it, you're like, what the hell was I...
Like, why was I thinking all that shit?
Bro, I'll even have...
I've had moments like that recently where it's like,
me and my girl will drink
and then
like we'll have like a pool day
have friends over or something
maybe even like go out that night
but we'll drink a lot
and then like the next day
I'm obviously feeling like shit
my anxiety's high
and like she might have to like go up and do something
because she's just always fucking doing something
but just like random
like an errand and I'm like I feel like shit
but it's like in my head
will start making up crazy scenarios
like how long has she been gone
like like and I'll just start thinking of what if she's like going to visit some guy
fucking like she's been gone a while she said she had to do this it shouldn't take on
she hasn't text me what was like were we in a weird spot like I shouldn't have said this
and fucking dude it's fucking insane and it's like that'll happen if I eat like shitty really
shitty foods and like drink and then I'll just and then I start crashing and I'll just
brain literally flips starts making up fucking scenarios and then like today like I even
sort of had a little bit of that last night I just felt like I was in like a weird mood and
and then today I wake up and I'm just like listening to music like she comes in from these errands
she had to run and it was like oh it was like so nice to see her and I was like happy but it's like
fucking the night before I was just thinking the most negative like and
I was like how...
It's insane.
Within 12 hours, my brain completely flipped because, like, this bullshit sort of got out of my system.
I chucked a bunch of water and it's like...
I drove home.
I'm in a good mood.
That's the biggest reason why I stop fucking taking that evil-ass drug.
Because when you're on, Addie, especially when you're crashing, you feel like a...
Feel like a different person.
You feel like a completely different person.
I always felt like the kind of...
psycho yeah not psycho but like almost like a very and then you wake up the next day and you just
feel guilty like a soft schizophrenic of yeah like i don't like i'm making shit it's completely making
shit up that's not even close you would like to exist look at the look at the text you sent people
the day before and you're like who was that i don't even know who that was it's like the weirdest
fucking see me it's like i don't even text i don't even like let that shit come out i just bury inside
I'm like, I don't know.
I don't trust myself that I'm even in the right head space to even trust, even if it's like, hey, we should talk about this or it's like, like, I'll be telling myself like, we should, like, I should say something or something.
But I just like don't trust the mindset that I'm in to even like, should I even?
It's like, I got to wait until I'm in like a decent mindset to even like think about saying something to someone because I don't even trust the mindset I'm in.
Yeah.
because right now it's just like
it's just completely negative
but it's fucking insane how it just flips
like wake up the next day
and it's like oh you know what
and then you have all these like quotes
or like sort of like everything
I'll be alright like I'm blessed
blessed to be alive and it's like this is
like I'm actually like super blessed
this is great like
but when you're in that negative mindset
fucking none of that
comes to your head
None of that will seep through.
None of that fucking works.
Just a fucking little devil, little demon.
I got a question.
What's up?
What happened to our Valerite team?
Dude, what a shit week.
I truly don't really know, to be honest.
What a shit week.
I don't know how that, I don't know how it works.
So Valerant apparently Riot is a little different than franchising and other,
and then in Blizzard e-sports, because this is the third time.
fourth time we've been involved in like franchising like with the infinite with the infinite
transition we knew we were going to franchise we had a league of legends team um and then we knew
we were going to franchise and call a duty eventually and and we franchised an overwatch with the
houston outlaws so like i kind of knew about how franchising worked but in blizzard games you
have to pay for your spot you have to get accepted and you have to pay for your spot in riot
games, which is League of Legends and Valerite, they have to invite you and you just get in
From my understanding and then they expand, but you still have to pay all obviously all the player salaries and the staff and so it's not like an easy
It's not an easy thing
So we we are applying to get into the
Valerite league we have the number one team in North America. We have the best player in the world on our team
We have who's that yay
Yeah
We have you know one of the best coach
of all time one of the best shot callers of you know Marv is fucking insane
Crashies and Victor is one of the best duos that I mean they're they're like a pair
they're a duo and they're insane together we win we win a tournament we come
in second to one of the biggest rivalries and biggest storylines and in Valerent
us and the Brazilian team loud and you know it's pretty respectable a
A lot of respect between the two fan bases.
Roger and Austin Cox do an amazing job with the Valerant content.
I mean, one of the processes has like 400,000 views.
I worked, you know, it's really sad because like everything that we did for the pitch,
like I wrote the creative brief for the deck that goes to riot.
Aaron works on the fucking camos.
Omen's
develops the
gun buddy that's going to hang off the gun.
That's the public perception...
Didn't we have the most views?
Or like the most...
The highest viewership or whatever.
The highest viewership.
And a lot of that...
The most consistent placings.
Shout out to the Brazilian fan base.
A lot of that has to do with the Brazilian fan base.
And they pick...
And it sucks,
because it's hard, it's hard not to, not to angle all the frustration and all the sadness
straight to riot, which is what we, which is what I'm trying to do and not angle it towards
the companies that did get in, like the orgs that did get accepted because then you compare
yourself to those orgs and they didn't, they didn't ask to get the, I mean, they did, they
applied like everybody else did. Exet applied, G2 applied, TSM, we did. They all, we all got
denied. And so then you look at the
teams that did get in and you're like
what did we do
differently? Isn't it? Differently. 100 Thieves
Cloud 9. Sentinels.
Sentinels. Energy and
EG. I thought Sentinels was
energy or am I tripping.
You're tripping. Okay.
Wait. Sentinels is complexity.
Sentinels energy and who? Or Sentinels is
partnered with complexity I think.
They used to be or something like that. I don't know.
Sentinel is energy and who?
EG.
Evil G.
I'm gonna be completely honest
I didn't even know they had a Valorant team
I'm gonna be completely honest
and it's not fair
It's gotta what the fuck is it then
It's not fair to say that because I'm not trying to talk shit about that organization because they didn't ask for it
Well I mean if they if like they
I mean unless I mean I don't know enough so it's weird for me to speak on it
But it's like they should sort of understand
Like they should almost be sitting there like I don't know
Sorry but
Sentils is a no-brainer.
They have the biggest viewership in N.A.
100 Thieves, I would say,
I would say us and 100 Thieves are on par.
Because 100 Thieves has huge viewership.
They have one of the biggest names in,
or they have some of the biggest names in Valorant.
But also, we have a lot of really big names.
We are hitting content just as hard,
or we were trying to hit content just as hard as thieves did.
and
you know
our placings were just
really good
we had really good
placings we were a threat
to international teams
and
they so I thought
that it was going to be
us and thieves
but
I mean the fucking
the EG and the energy
and the EG pick
I mean they
that shit blindsided me
I feel like it's
it's gotta do something
with favorites
but I also don't
fucking know
but it's like it's like
Like there's some sort of connection or...
So the public perception right now, which we didn't even get at...
At least I don't know if the higher-ups at our company got, you know, told why.
But I haven't heard.
But the public perception right now is EG has a...
EG has a League of Legends franchise spot.
And so does.
I don't know if Energy does.
But E.G. has a League of Legends spot, which is Riot.
and so they're like well they haven't done anything you know they haven't fucked this over in
league of legends so i don't know optic is it it it who knows who knows what it is optic
optic is not raised in uh tactical shooters i mean we had a counter strike team that did very
very well one time in history um we had a league of legends team that had a really really rocky
path because of all of the infinite shit that happened and then they got sold to immortals and all
that shit and maybe there's a sour taste in the mouth from that but why blame why i mean we're
putting so much fucking effort it's it's like it's like apples and oranges comparing the the
league of legends days to now i mean we're dedicating so much fucking time to to this team we had a
videographer there for a month and a half in istanbul like am awesome we almost
When was the last time you even saw Austin Cox?
Oh, that's where he fucking went.
He got back today.
I'm not going to lie.
I saw him post a frowny face, and I was like, damn, some shit's been going down with, like, his, that was his team.
Me with the, with the, me with the Cod team in For Vision Days, that's him.
That's where he's fucking been.
Like, those guys.
Those guys hang out with Austin all the time.
And the thing is, is we did everything.
Not only did, not only, in my opinion, did, did we do.
what we were supposed to on the,
on the fucking content side
and the sales team and the corporate side,
they did what they were supposed to.
The players did more than what they were asked.
Top three at every international.
One one got second place at Worlds
and got third place at the other one.
It must like there's nothing.
What the fuck could they have done differently?
And now you're breaking that team apart
and they're going to get sold this way and that way
and some of them are restricted free agents,
some of them are free agents they can go wherever they want
who knows if they're going to get a team
who is chet going to coach for what
what position
imagine chet gets a coaching role
at a team who is on a franchise spot
now that coach doesn't have a role he didn't ask for that shit
like what you're breaking up like a
what was a
perfect situation
for
you know obviously I'm biased
but for what seemed to be a
perfect situation for
for Valerette as a whole.
You see Shrout up there
in a fucking optic jersey
Terrick.
Terrick is bigger
Terrick has more viewership
than Valerite does.
Valerent will have 80,000 viewers
on their match
and Terrick will have 130
and Terrick has history and optic.
Like,
I don't fucking understand
why would you want to get rid of us?
I don't get it, man.
It's frustrating
and in past,
in past,
life hitch,
2018 hitch,
I would have been
throwing a fucking
shit storm
and bitching
and moaning
and griping.
But nowadays,
like just knowing how much effort
went into everything Valorant,
like I'm just sad more than anything.
I'm fucking heartbroken,
especially with,
I mean,
think about Hastro.
Hastrow built this team in Envy.
He went out and found
each person,
got their buyouts,
bought them,
built this team from the ground up
for envy.
The optic merger happens.
and then finally the fucking success happens
and now they're gone.
It's fucking sad, man.
It is very, very sad.
So how many NA teams are in it?
Five.
How many?
So before it didn't work,
this year it didn't work like that at all.
Was it just like the best teams?
It was just how CWL used to be,
is how HCS is now.
Okay.
It's just if you have an org and you can pay for a team,
you get them in.
So all the basic, pretty much these five teams that made it say energy or fucking, I don't know, not the best or I don't know who would be not the best out of those five.
But it's like those players are probably like, it's like, oh shit, we, they picked us.
But it's like, wait a second.
We're getting fucking dropped.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Holy shit.
The best player in the.
These orgs don't give a fuck.
The best player in the world is on the market right now.
People are trying to get him.
What the, like, Marvde is insane.
He's one of the best, he's one of the best players on the map for sure.
Top three player on the map, any map.
So these players are probably fucking, what are they going to do if they're not in this league?
They're going to play in a challengers league called Ascendant, I think.
And it's like their pro, their amateur league.
Is it pretty much like challenge?
Like it's not going to be another HCS sort of.
No.
Dude, that's fucking like these players, these orgs are hyped.
But they're going to fucking.
There's probably so many good players that aren't on those teams.
They're hype.
But like also on the other side of it like, cheese, they're about to spend so much money.
Imagine how much money like.
Sentinels is about to spend.
Fucking tens and Shazam and they just got rid of shroud.
Imagine they get yay.
I mean, that's fucking, dog, that's like millions of dollars just in salaries every year.
And like, how are you getting that money back?
I don't know.
It's fucking, I am, I am fucking sad.
I'm heartbroken.
We had the calls this morning with our sponsors like, hey, I know you paid for this spot.
And it's like, this shit goes into everything.
Some of our sponsors paid for.
a spot on the Valorant jersey.
Now we don't have Valorant jerseys.
So now we have to make good
with all the sponsor. I mean, it's just
like, hey, like, we're talking with
a sponsor this morning. They're like, hey, like,
you know, we don't have a spot for you anymore.
At least there's some kind of like,
hey, like this is like
completely out.
It's not like they paid for a spot.
Our team shit the fucking sheets.
Our content blew ass.
Like, it's like there is
literally nothing else.
say could have
could have won worlds
if we won worlds are we even
still I don't think that makes a difference
if we win worlds beat loud
the biggest rivalry one of the biggest rivalries
in Valorant
we still don't I still don't think we get in
I don't think so no if we did
everything if we did everything
it was already ready to go
it had to have been it had to been ready to go like
months ago
and people are saying that the whole like
the guy the G2 Carlos guy
partied with Andrew Tate and that's why they didn't get
they most they weren't they weren't in to begin with there's no way they were in there's no way
that's what that's funny like if it's it's i don't want to talk shit about other orgs because it's
not their fault but if eG got in off of not qualifying and it doesn't seem like their content is
is really doing much they were they were in for some other reason yeah and so they've been
locked it's they've been they've been locked there's this this shit was bound to happen
It's who knows how much of this is actually going to go on the fucking flycast.
I'm sure Matt will have to run it by some people, but regardless of whatever stayed in and whatever got cut, I am heartbroken for our content team, especially Austin Cox, because that was his team.
That was me to the COD team in 2016.
He followed them everywhere, hung out with them, partied with them, ate with them, got them whatever they needed at every event, traveled with them.
heartbroken for the content team, heartbroken for the sales and the corporate side that
poured their soul into this team. And then obviously most of all, heartbroken for the players
because they've been playing together for two years now. And they're just getting ripped apart
for something that they did nothing wrong for. They did actually everything right.
They actually did everything right, which is insane. They outperformed every single,
one of their peers in that got the opportunity that they wanted and they did nothing wrong.
It's fucking crazy, man.
It is fucking heartbreaking.
But is that what you want to know?
What happened with our Valer's?
I think that answered it.
Yeah, hopefully, I mean, hope to see all those guys get a spot somewhere at least.
Sad to.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah, sad to see.
Shout out to fucking Austin.
I didn't know.
Bro, I'm not going to lie.
I was like, did Austin get it?
fired
because I had no idea
he was he was doing all
the Valoran shit I hadn't even kept up
much with our Valorant stuff
until recently
because it's like oh world
it's now I'll care
but yeah
they were fucking good and I even told you
leaving the flycass yesterday or
last week I was like
yo we didn't talk about Valoran at all
and I was like I'm not going to lie when we picked up
that team I was like yeah
we just needed
a Valoran team and it's like they're going to
Yeah.
I thought they would like, I don't know,
crews in the top eight or so.
I mean,
I had no expectations,
but they completely,
uh,
completely,
they did more than what they needed to do.
Um,
but apparently,
um,
it's not in our,
it's not in our hands,
not in their hands.
Hopefully wish them all the success in the world.
Fucking sad.
It is sad.
All right.
It's very sad.
All right,
that's good.
I hope you guys enjoy watching to this.
They do fucking love it.
They fucking love it.
This is what they, this is what they are here to hear.
All right, guys.
That's been another episode 492 of the Flycast.
We'll see you guys next time.
Matt Craig, play that banger I sent you on to love.
