The Flycast - We Bullied Pamaj of an Hour… | The Flycast Ep. 192

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

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Can you one ban me, by the way? Like, goddamn. No, no, no. Why? Well, let's get into that in like one second. I can't wait to get Nick's. I can't wait to get Nick's perspective. There's even fucking stream, so who cares?

You don't blog. Or make Instagram reels. So we were supposed to do flycasts. This is going to be the most hectic flycats ever, bro. So we or Jim or run. I'll kill you. Or groceries. The episode of the podcast.

Six, six, six, six. Episode. So many people were excited about our last Iceman review that they wanted another one. I'm not going to lie, I didn't look at the comments. Did you? The comments. Yeah, the comments, a vast majority of the comments were like, this is the best album review we've seen, and we want another episode. Oh, dude, the comments were riding, y'all.

Really? Yeah, they really loved it. We weren't getting, like, destroyed? No, they really loved it, and they wanted an addition. They were like, this wasn't long enough. We wanted an additional one. Like, they want to, I mean, yeah. Well, first things first, you know, congrats to Hitch.

You know, we're just celebrating. We're celebrating nice men. We're celebrating the dub. Five of the, five of the, five things. Let's celebrate the dub. Really want to beef. What's the dub? What's the dub?

I mean, I think like, what, nine out of the ten top of hundred songs? Bars albums, billboards. Yeah. I mean, at this point, the beef. The, the, he's just. It just was announced. Congratulations. The boy won.

The boy won, man. And what's how you do? Oh, wait. Pam, you're from Canada. Pam's from Canada. Oh, shit. And Pam's from Canada. An hour on his hurt.

Oh, wait. Ah, damn. You can't even. Wait, FaceTime School Boy Q real quick. He would pick up. That's the funny part. He would pick up. Imagine you FaceTime School Boy Q

and Nick was holding it with a drake mask. That's the homie, though. Like, y'all, you know, they'll go to be fucked up. Put it over in it like this. He's like, what's that? That's the homie, though. He'd be like, what the fuck is going on?

Oh, that would be so great. He might, he might block my number. Yeah, yeah, that would be it. That would be it. Yeah. But yeah, as we're, as we're, as we're, as we were sitting down, I think the billboard charts just came out. Did you see my, did you, I, I've been, I've had one more, I gave it one more tweet.

I was like, I have one more in me. Because I was really pushing it there for a little bit. And you, would you put out another one? I put out, I put out my last, my last banger. My last troll tweet is, has just gone up. And I was waiting. Here, Davis. I was waiting for the billboard charts to come out for this.

You've been on a tear. I think there's, can you pull it up? There's genuinely people out there that are like, to take this off. Something's wrong with Hitch. No, they think I'm, they think I'm serious. Like he's. Here it is.

Here it is. We're blessed to live in the gym. See, I was supposed to have Michael Jackson. I like the LeBron passes Jordan. I like that one. We are blessed to live in the generation of goats. LeBron passes Jordan.

Othani passes Beirutth. You're messy. Messi passes Rinaldo. And now we've seen Drake pass Michael Jackson. We can't allow ourselves to take the most fire photos too. Dude, like, look, this is my favorite. Go to the right one.

That's my favorite. It's the, It's the summer cup. It's the end for the mid-season for cup. Nobody's like, nobody's like, nobody's like, noticed it yet. God, look at messy, man. Did you pick that on purpose?

Yes, dude. Everything he does is on purpose, man. Is it calculated? I picked, I picked the ins. I like to say that LeBron has, what does he actually have five or four? He has four or five. He's got four rings.

I like to. say he has five because like this is a chip yeah look he's raising a trophy that's that's that's g gcc that's a chip yeah that's basically a cdl major do you do you forget about that i have three chips that's ours you do oh nine 2015 ggzs yes or mike p that 2023 why does this yeah i thought it was like earlier than that no but yeah we did a so obviously we did a flycass with me and hitch over the computer um Was it what we initially, obviously initially wanted to do? Iceman was such an important part of our lives.

Of our lives. That we did want to be home while we did it. We knew Pumage wanted to be a part of it too. Can you one ban me, by the way? Like, goddamn. No, no, no. Why? Well, let's get into that in like one second.

I can't wait to get Nick's. I can't wait to get Nick's perspective. We didn't even fucking stream, so who cares? You don't vlog or make Instagram reels. So we were supposed to do flycasts. This is going to be the most hectic flycats ever, bro. So we, or Jim, or run. I'll kill you.

Or groceries. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I made smashed tacos the other day. From scratch. Or pool with baddies. But anyways, we were. I get it. You're in downtown Dallas.

Or trade. Oh, I see. Yeah. So we were. Put them on your lab, bro. We were supposed to Dude All right

So we were supposed to do Our first Iceman episode was I guess Iceman Were we really I guess it is an Iceman review Yeah

So the first one was Actually supposed to be with Pam Supposed to be here But Hitch was in Arizona So we just did it there No this is good So then I think the people liked it

I don't know if they want round two. But we can talk it about a little bit. It doesn't all have to be fucking ice man, whatever. But we can bounce around. I watched all it. But anyways, yeah, throughout all this, you know, Drake Kendrick beef, not even Drake Kendrick beef anymore.

It's just Drake versus everybody. Yeah, and he's winning still? And he's winning somehow. Seems strange to me. But amongst all that, that got even boys beef. That got our boys beefing. Pamage is now banned in Hitch's Twitch. That has nothing to do with the beef.

Well, it was me and Frankie Mojo kind of on your shit. That has nothing to do with it. Pam. What did I do? Pam came into the stream. I asked one person to say hello to me. Pam came into the stream. Uh-huh.

Can you let me talk? Are you going to fucking... Maybe. FIFO fummed me the whole time. Okay. So... But, uh... So, Pam came into the stream and was talking shit, obviously.

Talking shit, like, what? Well, he was, you, he were like, dude. We were talking about Meet the Grims. You were like, dude, Kendrick's so much more hotter and handsome and sexy and stuff. I see. And so Pam came in and was talking in chat. I wasn't the only one. We were bantering back and forth, having a great time.

Uh-huh. And then he says to one of my mods or one of my VIPs, and he was like, yo, come to my chat real quick. He's one of my VIPs. And I'm like, is Pam fucking streaming right now? So then people were like, yeah. Like you don't even think he's streaming this whole time. Yeah, I thought we were just bantering like and he was rage watching my stream because Drake.

Because Iceman was doing so well. He was rage watching my stream while I was trending on Twitter for some troll shit about me. He saw you were trending. So he was like, let me. Came in and was like, you guys are. And then he said, yo, everybody come to my stream. instead. And I was like, that's literally against TOS. I'm actually looking out for you because if

somebody read reported you, your Twitch account could have been banned. So what's depending on how this podcast goes. See you on kick. We might be on kick, bro. We might have to leave my Twitch. I'll be on kick. Imagine Pamma's just, I have one kick. Why is Pam on kick? It's got him banned on Twitch. Thoughts. Thoughts on what? See? He's just like, He's like, no, he's like, yeah, I fucked up. Like, you know, I've been trying to watch your Minecraft series at the same time. And I just, you can't watch. Oh, well.

Just don't speak. You know what's funny? I can't. God forbid we get silenced out here. God forbid. You know, and you know what? You said 25 gifted you get on bad. You can't fucking gift.

That's exactly what he said. You know what? You can't fucking gift when you're banned. Brother. Oh, you can't get on bed? Oh, my God, bro. Just take, take like a... 60 plus month subscriber, by the way.

Zell. Like $100. Oh, my God, bro. I'd rather just take him in the movies. But yeah, that's what I... I said I would give him a week. I think you're almost at a week. Doug, this is miserable.

This is miserable. Tomorrow is... Tomorrow is the week. So you're good... You're good after tomorrow. It's been a long week. Welcome back. Welcome back.

It's been a long-ass week, man. Pam's back. So, I mean, do we just talk ice man here? I just want to see what Pam, I just want to see what Pam, how Pam has been dealing with all of the, all of the hells. You guys got to cut this out, man. What do you mean? He's got to cut this out. Do you guys think of like, he's not going to watch this?

Yeah, he is. No, like, I also don't give a fuck. Like, I call him dog shit all the fucking time. You guys would be, like, that's on some guy's shit. That's some gaming stuff. You can't come out of his... Oh, man. You can't go after his work.

God, bro. 100%. We can't be like... You tell him that all the time. You told him that Kendrick lost? No. Hell no. He told him that Kendrick.

No. We tell him he got carried on hell of songs. Who? Collar greens. Oh my God. Carried. Anyway. Wait, did he get carried on collard greens?

He for sure got carried. Gallag greens. Amy jean jeans. Anything. Top that. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Luxury. That's a banger.

It is a bangor. It's a banger. I haven't listened to it. Can you relay one piece of information from Nick and I? Because it is, because we both feel this way. Dog, he's watching. Schoolboy Q at the end of the DNA video is hard as fuck. That motherfucker is hard as fuck.

Glaze, glaze, glaze, glaze. Call it glaze all you want. Just like. Kendrick lost the battle. Uh-huh. We know that. Drake's not acting like it, though. I'm glad people are coming to like.

What do you mean? He's not acting like it. The number one song in the world right now is the Kendrick does. Oh, two years later. Okay, we... Visit BetMGM Casino and check out the newest exclusive. The Price is Right Fortune Pick. BetMDM and Game Sense remind you to play responsibly.

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Drake had all this promotion and rollout for his album but it still only did this Kendrick Kendrick randomly dropped his yeah at the complete and utter peak of the beef of his career of his career against the biggest rapper of all time. Wow. Which rollouts better? Rolling out, making videos for an album?

Or being a complete fucking beef, like, uh-huh. The biggest beef between Biggie and Tupac. Yo, those. And drop album now. Which one's better promo? The three Iceman,

like whatever fucking rollout, you cannot sit here and tell me like none of that means anything. Like, I mean, it's a typical album rollout. It's a rule out. It's the same way baby King did his.

Roll out. Can I talk? Sure, man. Yeah. This is going to be the whole fucking thing. You guys are going to fucking cut me off. And it's going to be a 1 v2, warm down. You're good.

And you can't clutch like Drake did. I did. One V4. GGCS. Did you? Did you know? Did you? I remember that.

I remember that. Yeah. That was fire. You can tip that. You sat there and watched. You were scared. Go on. All right.

What were we talking about? The three, all right, we got to be honest. like the Iceman rollout that Drake dropped you know what I mean like it was like the whole like episodes

the episodes yeah the first three really didn't mean anything bro so it wasn't so you're so what are you what are you saying this is what I keep hearing is the rollout too good because or is it not good at all no because it was it was all about like him versus UMG right

right and it was all about like you know he had like the puppet mask on or whatever Pinocchio whatever like all that like really didn't fucking mean anything it didn't mean anything bro oh it's just art so is the rollout not dog shit i'm sorry okay but so people are saying that there was a huge rollout for ice man but if they're saying it was a dog shit rollout and it's not it can't be huge the last i mean the way he just dropped you know what i would rather he

he didn't even drop those three first things like those i'm saying like it was like an hour and a half you know what i mean the third one did drag a little bit. Yeah, but it was just like some... Yeah, like, I liked I appreciated like sort of there's an artistic side to it and I believe it was like streamed live. Yeah, streamed live.

So I think that's pretty cool, but like I could... I think I think by the third one I was like, I'm not watching this. The third one dragged. I will say the third. I liked the first two. It was just nothing there, bro. Like, it was just like, what are we waiting for? I was the three number one album in the world right now.

You're so annoying. Probably what we were waiting on. You asked what we were waiting on. That's what we were waiting on. The three albums that came out that are one, two, and three of the Billboard charts. Okay, we're only talking about one album. The other two are dog shit. Two and three on the Billboard charts, those were dog shit.

Yeah, they're dog shit. I even heard him say it. So I don't need you to tell me that. I'm not a fan of the other. Exactly. So stop bullshitting. I'm not just saying you asked what we were waiting for. We were waiting for one, two, and three on the Billboard charts.

I'm just answering your question. That's all I'm doing. To beat the dick riding allegations. I am not. to beat them. I'm just answering a question you asked. When people think Optic,

they think Dick riding Drake sometimes. We need to beat that. I don't know if that's true. I don't know. Because when people think Optic, they don't immediately go to Neack Hitch,

Dick Rod, I think of our like, they're probably thinking like shots. You guys are knowing, like fucking. Cod. You guys are calling duty.

They're thinking Cod watch party. But the few real ones They is thinking that. That's true. The few real ones are thinking Dick Ryden. Yeah. Real as fuck. So, yeah, the episodes, I wasn't really a fan of.

I appreciated them, but it would just, it'd be like 10 minutes of listen to the same, like, beat. Just staring at, like, an empty room. Staring at nothing. With a block of fucking ice or something in it. I don't know. I wasn't a big fan of the. of the episodes leading up to the... I like the first one a lot.

There was a lot of space. What did I miss came out? That one was fine. There was a lot of space in it. Now, the last one, though. I think it... I think the episodes, even though they did drag, I think the theme of Ice Man is like...

What is the theme of Ice Man? What is it? I don't even know what it is. I just like the album. Clip that. It's all about... It's all about the fight against the fight against UMG. Okay.

That's like the entire theme of the album is the fight against UMG. Is it? Because I heard a lot of just nothing, but where is she at? It's Drake versus everybody is the album, I would say. Yeah, I would say, the theme of the album is he feels slighted by people that he, that took advantage of him. That's what it is. Took advantage of it. He said, I can't believe I was calling my sons, my brothers.

I'll never make that mistake again. Like UMG took advantage of him? I don't Loki feel that way, but maniac. You feel like maniac took advantage of you? He's my son, Loki. Not your brother. Yeah, barely. Step brother.

She's taking a Drake bar and applying it to me. Step bro? Step bro. Are we really? This is episode 192. We're eight away from 200. Are we going to make a banger for 200? What are you guys doing for doing?

I see our Ice Man album review popped off. The thing is, but to be honest, like, I know people click and they see that it's like on the computer and they're like, yeah, fuck this. I don't think I'd ever watch a podcast like on a computer. But where do you want to start with this? With what? I guess Iceman. Are we going to? Where are we starting with this?

What questions, I guess, do we have for Pam? All right, so, Pam, you didn't like the other two albums. Yeah, I mean, like, those were, like, throwaways or something. Wait, hold on. But what I was saying, you were asking about the theme of the album. What I think is interesting is, can you look up Michael Jackson versus Sony? Which was, like, just discovered. It's not the same thing, though.

Like, Drake versus UMG is not like Michael Jackson versus Sony. It's Michael Jackson. And can you look up? It's Michael Jackson. It's Drake, bro. It's Michael Jackson, bro. Look. It's literally Drake.

The top left one, Sony kills music. That's the Iceman theme. Look, I don't think. Okay, I see the colors. That's the Iceman thing. No, no, no, I see the colors. I see it. So, like, that is, that is legitimately where Iceman came from.

Is that same scheme? I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Okay. That's literally Iceman. That's the Iceman. That's the red and the blue. I see the colors.

I see it. I see it. And it's the same font. That is, that's where it comes from. I'm almost positive. I'm almost positive. That's, see, that's dope as fuck. And so, like, that's what that.

The whole theme is, UMG, he made music for UMG, made them billions and billions and billions of dollars. And then the one chance that, whatever his contract was coming up, they tried to take the, a battle and promote the other artists in order to take down his stock so that he would resign at a lower value. Who was the other artist?

Was it Prince? Was it? Kendrick. Oh, no, I'm talking about MJ. I'm talking about MJ. So Kendrick? That's what I thought. Drake are both signed under UMG

Yes Feels like everyone's So Drake's thing Was coming up So they were promoting Kendrick Moore Right the whole lawsuit Is the fact that they

They They promoted And pushed Not like us In order to lower Drake stock So that he would resign At a lower value Oh so this is where we're starting

And we're not We don't want to That is though That I'm saying We don't know if it's true We don't want to start Like the beef of it all We want to

start with like it's the whole fucking label against him like what do you mean the beef of it all the beef like the fucking like that fucking meet the grams listen the beef was amazing I loved it it had been brewing for it had been brewing since King Coon to no way before

that it had been brewing since what the control verse probably I think way before that too low key can't have been too much can't have been too there's no way the control there was some control versus what 2013 and take care of There's some animosity in between all that shit.

I don't know. It had been brewing for 12 years, let's say. Long ass time. We knew that it was going to happen. It was awesome. Like, people that had been paying attention knew that those two didn't like each other. Like, it's, yeah, yeah, there's been too many shots between the two of them. The bars we got out of Drake with that.

But the, the fact that it does seem like he made all this money. for UMG in his point of view and now they're promoting the other side way heavier than they're promoting his side even though he made them the more more money than any other artist probably I don't know who else is under Sony I don't know if

like Bieber or Katie Perry or Taylor Swift or anybody is sorry under UMG but dude I don't think I can wear the glasses uh audio from DeGrassey audio listeners

uh Nick has been putting on and off a Drake mask. Silly, bro. Nobody's listened. If you're listening on audio, somehow let it be known. People on Spotify? Can they leave a comment on Spotify? I got tweets that the last episode wasn't on Spotify.

So there are some people out there's probably like 20 people. Five of those 20 people tweeted at me. Damn, so I didn't really know that was that they were both under the same label. Yeah, that's what the whole thing. The man not to sue and a rapist. You boys are not listening. It's like the whole like, I don't know. I don't know how it works in the music industry.

It's just like UMG, Sony and all that. It's like. What was it? Like TDE was under UMG? I don't know how. Aftermath. I don't know how. You're all like Loki.

The same thing is weird. The thing is, it's like I understand that nobody gives a fuck about this. Yeah, nobody gives a fuck. This is like whenever you're watching, like whenever a normal person is watching a YouTube video and the YouTuber starts talking about the algorithm, like they don't give fuck. Yeah, nobody cares. The only other people that care about the algorithm are other people that make YouTube videos. We just deal with it. The other people that make the other, the only people that care about the inner workings of labels are people that are in the music industry or or like

way too deep. Yeah. I think it's interesting, but I would like to know more, but it's just like, what the fuck do we know about it? I didn't even know. I didn't even know until lately that Michael Jackson had an issue with Sony and I'm learning. I'm learning about it. Well, I mean, I was how old were we when Michael Jackson died? We were like 11. It was like 2000. It was like 2000. Do you guys remember what MJ Dodd? It's like 2009. Do you guys remember when MJ Dodd? Where were you guys when MJ Dodd?

I was at my friend. I was at a baseball game. I was at my friend, Talent's house. He was a Halo player. We were landing. Set on his couch and watched it on the news. Dad, we were at a cat. I said Michael Jackson died.

I said. Hey, yeah. Oh my God. Is that too much? Is that accountable? That might have been too much. How old were we though? 2009 is when he died.

That was like nine. I was probably like around 18. Yeah, so I was 16. I was 16 when he died. So I guess I was like, I was in grade eight. I guess that's different. Great eight.

How old are you in grade eight? You were probably 14. 13 or 14? Yeah. I mean, they're not that much older than me. I'm just saying like as a when he, so he died.

So that means this is like probably five years before he died. If that, I mean, no, I think this was like, no, I don't think it was like. You know Michael Jackson never bleached his skin? I don't believe that. It was just like he has a disease. I don't believe that at all. You don't believe that he has a disease? No.

You don't think he believes his skin? You don't think he had a disease? I don't, no. He spoke about it. And I was like, damn. I don't believe it. Have you seen the Michael movie? No.

You should. I know, I'll watch it. You're talking about it. watch that too what's the name of that it's called um i don't know what the disease is called but like you know when when people have like like like blotches like yeah of course yeah it was like but he never got blotchy he did well maybe he got blotchy but then he like was like well if i'm gonna get blotchy just want to be blotchy i just want to be one skin color vitaligo is what it's called but anyways i didn't know the because all i was hearing was damn drake su and kendrick for

Oh, wait, hold on. If that's true, I believe that. If his Vidaligo got so severe and extensive that he went into a, that he got, hold on, that he got medical, what it was, underwent medical, medically recognize depigmentation therapy to even out of sticentone. Yeah. I do believe that. I think it was something like that. I do believe that. I don't believe it naturally.

The whole time, I thought he was bleacher the skin trying to be white. It's how much misinformation's out there. I honestly don't believe. I honestly, that's not too far-fetched for me. I think it still could be that. But this also makes sense to me. What I didn't believe is that he got Vidalago one day and all of a sudden his whole body was white.

That is what I didn't believe. Because you see people... It happens over time. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And we never saw the time happen. Well, fuck. There's not a ton of pictures out there of him.

Do you know how private that dude probably was? Yeah? But he, but also he looked like an alien when he died. Am I? Is it too crazy to say that? No, he looked at. With his nose job and his, his, his whatever else. And all of his face, he looked like a, he didn't look like he was from this planet.

So if he looked like that. We're not slandering, MJ. I'm not slandering him. I'm not slandering him. That's what you're doing here. Like, we're not slandering him, bro. What? Am I saying, am I saying something that's too?

Say it, man. Dude, he looked crazy Dude, he looked crazy I'm on top now That's my spot I'm not saying he's not a legend And made and not it didn't make Amazing music I'd love Michael Jackson's music

Do you put Drake above Michael Jackson? As far as what? Be for fucking real As far as what Be for fucking real bro No I don't put Drake above Michael Dray I don't think it's possible to

No one beat Michael Jackson That shit was fucking insane No it's an insane run but he's he was he wasn't he wasn't a normal person and I'm tired of people claiming he's normal I mean you couldn't

he was one freak freaky bash yeah he had a you can't be like like all he was just misunderstood and he had like a fucking playground I didn't really have a childhood could you imagine being famous like when you are fucking like seven years old

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No, and the answer is no. No. Think about what you just said there. If it's true that he bleached his skin. No, my God. I feel like the skin part, there's probably a lot of other weird shit. that what that it's more weird than the skin part like him being a pedophile the thing is it's like i don't know if he was i don't know if he was i genuinely this is what i genuinely believe genuinely

believe dude take that off he was so fucking weird he was so fucking weird that he was so fucking weird that he genuinely enjoyed the presence of presence of children to like play Because sometimes you will look at a child and you watch them play and you're like, God, I miss like that feeling of like being free and you're just playing and it's like holy fuck. Like now as an adult, you're just in your head constantly. So there is kind of that thought when you see a child. But Michael Jackson would do that to a different extreme fucking level to where like he makes a playground in his backyard to have to invite McCleley Culkin over. to invite fucking little kids over. Sleep in the bed with children.

But do I think he like did anything with the children? I don't believe so. But it's all fucking strange regardless. If he played with kids because he thought he was a kid, if he... Regardless, I feel like charges that should be illegal anyway.

There's, yeah. So if he kissed... Even if you're not even... Even if you didn't kiss, even if you didn't touch, even if you didn't hug, if you're... If you make your entire backyard

a play area for kids and then like you're sharing beds with them Right That can't be legal. Right. I agree with you. And it's fucking shit. I agree with you. I think Michael I think Michael Jackson is a perfect A perfect

person to very widely Separate the art from the artist Because I think his art Is unbelievable. It's very he's one of the best ever his performance one of the best ever is definitely his music

one of the best ever but let's not fucking pretend he wasn't a freak he was a freak fuck do we even get here just talking about the two greatest artists of all time the two oh I see okay well is this not about Iceman now

like we're just potting man I like the pot I like the pot I like the pod I like the pod I like the pod but yeah I don't know. I don't know. Who knows?

Maybe I'd take over. Hold on. Maybe I'd take over. I wrote some shit down. What did you write down? I wrote some shit down. Well, is it going to be Iceman stuff? Yeah.

I wanted to say, before all the Michael Jackson stuff, I thought it was always Drake. The word on the street was, oh my God, Drake suing Kendrick for defamation. Yeah, that's what they were. No, he was never suing Drake. He was suing the fucking label. No, Drake suing Koeck for. defamation. That was on the that was the thing on the streets. That's what people were

saying. That's what UMG told Kendrick. It was the label though. He never like sued Kendrick. But on the streets. Okay, relax. AKA Twitter. On the Twitter streets. On the Twitter streets. People were saying Drake is suing Kendrick for defamation.

Right, of course. He comes out says I'm suing the man, not suing the rapper. You boys are not listening. And I had no idea that it was about the whole they're both signed to UMG Right

During that time period UMG was pushing I guess What pushing Kendrick Moore Right To lessen Drake's Stock

Right So when they re-sign That's what the lawsuit's about That's what the lawsuit's about And the defamation He is suing for defamation Which kind of makes sense He's suing

For UMG to do that For Drake to He's suing for defamation But he's not suing Kendricks Kendrick being like you call me a pedophile I didn't like it

he's suing UMG for encouraging or for promoting a song that calls him a pedophile so he's suing UMG for defamation because of that because they're

but I also don't give a fuck about the lawsuit I don't give a lot about it I don't give a I never even looked at. Whenever a guy on Twitter that works at Jiffy Loob, like, oh, wait, whoa, whoa. He's got an honest job. Was there a hard work? You're lucky to even be able to sit there and say something like that.

Don't be judging them like that, man. If you're at a Jiffy Loeb, you can't have an opinion. You're putting it in pain, no, that's not what I'm saying. I wasn't, that was in a slight to Jiffy Loop workers. They actually have benefits. Dude, I'm like us. You wouldn't last a day in the real world. Okay.

Okay. Walgreens is calling you. A guy who works at Walgreens, I was him, works at Walgreens in the photo. He's on his phone and he's like, oh my God, I can't believe you listen to him because he's suing. Okay, that's stupid. Who the fuck cares? Who the fuck cares?

How many artists have sued their labels in the world? But the one time this happens now, now it's like what? You're on the streets now? is that's what Nick Nick Nick's code of Twitter streets I guess applies to everyone now Nick in his high-wise apartment I open Twitter and it's just like

I just can't one scroll and it's just like just sick and like people I do think people completely making up headlines and captions and

I do think people think that I'm way more serious about this stuff than I am you're a little out of Like, I wrote some shit down to continue this going. Okay. Let's see what you got, man. Finally, someone prepares for a pod. I knew that.

I knew that. All right. Well, first topic, Riley. Are we, is optic dick riders or do we just not listen? That's what you wrote down? I have a lot. I got a lot. It's almost like I got questions for you guys.

It's not, is it like? What do you mean? Are we dick riders? Are we not listen? Do you not listen? Like, those, there's two. What do you mean? Do not listen to what?

Like, was, all right. Like, fall off, fire. Yes. Yeah, I liked it. GNX, fire. Trash. Yeah, I liked G&X. G&X is fire.

I liked a lot. I did not. Like, that's the, of course you did. There was like two songs. This is the problem. I think Wacked out. I could go through GNX. I think Wacked out Murals is the best Kendrick song.

That is the best Kendrick's written in a long time. Wacked out murals? I think it's the best he's written in a long time. I think it's better than every song from the beef that he wrote. Better than Euphoria. Euphoria is crazy. No, it is not. No, it is not.

I'm tired of fucking acting. Euphoria is the best song in the beef. I'm tired of acting like it is. Euphoria is the best song in the beef, bro. It's not! It is. It really is. Play euphoria.

Bro. Matt, can you bring up Spotify? Bro. I'm, I feel like I'm going insane. I feel like I, That whole beef, I feel like I'm going insane. You loved it, though. He said, if shit gets pake, if shit gets shaky, I'll park your son.

Okay. That's not a good bar. Fire. Look, these are the only, it's not a good bar. Look, whacked out murals. This one, this was, bro, I'm telling you, after the beef and everything, people were on my cock, Jenny X comes out. I love how he calls him. I love it.

It's because the production. producer. The producer, Benny X. Oh, oh, oh. And I think I just always say Jenny, G and X. But anyways. But I heard this. I can't have got you.

Not that I'm listening to back. Not that I'm listening back. Maybe not. But when the way, that's another play. Snoop posted. But I heard that number one. I was like, holy fuck, this album might be good. started listening through Luther with scissors good

but then everything after that I just it wasn't for me Glory is insane Isn't Dodger Blue on that album? Dodger Blue's Godlight Dodger Blue is Godlight I even like Rodney The song that everybody's trolling

I like that song Which one? What is it? Haynow I love Haynow I like that song Say now I'm on about my yin I like that song a lot A piece from within

That song's hard bro I liked the album I genuinely liked G&X yeah obviously we can guess that from a fucking mile away not necessarily no because Nick listen we know Nick and I

Nick and I H forces himself to like it so they can't say like that is not true I get see no he's just I get blasted from all angles all the time just fucking spit roasted but do that again but what wait did Is the computer fucking up?

The monitor. Yeah, we can't see anything in the monitor. But, um, but Nick likes, Nick likes Kendrick. Like he, he,

we both like Kendrick. We were all, I'm sick. Like, that's another thing. Like, you guys got to stop fucking damn. I never,

ever said I didn't like Kendrick. Never. Not one time. I said he wrapped poorly in the battle. Which he did. Which he did. There's nothing in that Kendrick shit. 616 in L.A.?

Come on, bro. 80% of the song, the good part of the song is not about the battle. He doesn't rap. It's like a throwaway song. It's a great song.

It's a great song, but... You guys are dumb, man. He starts... He talks about academics in that song. I can see the lies on that. But I will say 616 is probably the best song in the beef for him.

Family Matters. Okay, we're being on. It's like that. It's like that is the best song. It's like that. Like that is the best song. The best one out of anything else. Family matters is the second best song.

Yeah. 100% It's not even It's not even I wish You're lucky I'm giving Like that It's number one

It's not even We're so Lucky matter Crazy We're so lucky That Neack wants to You know Rank a song like that

We're so lucky I mean we can play him right now Fuck talking You're yapping That's what you're doing For fucking sure But what

So what was your original question that you wrote down? Are we dick riders? Are we dickwriters? Or do we not listen? Do we not fucking listen to like GNX? Jenny X. Yeah, yeah. Like, all right.

Is it just straight dick riding? No. Is it just straight? No. It's never been that. I sit down. It's no you done, Nick. I click.

I don't sit down. Now I don't sit down. Now I don't sit down. You can't even do. How am I dick riding if I can't sit? You have them on your face. What? I have what is happening?

Wait, what was the question? I still get confused by what this question even is. Are we dick riding? Is it just because it's Drake or is it just like? No, I sit down, no matter the artist, I sit there, I click play. Okay. Max B came out of prison After like 15 years

I used to listen to fucking whatever Mac and cheese tapes With like French Montana And like 2005 Like I thought I was a little hoodlum So he came out of prison I wanted to

I was hoping for the best Click play on a shit I'm like this shit's trash So like I'm like And I wanted it to be good So if I click If I put on Drake Drake Habibti

Click play No I'm not fucking with this Kendrick GNX song number one oh shit this album might be good as fuck song number two yeah I ain't fucking with this song number three

oh this is pretty good every other song after that I'm good off that like I sit there with an open mind like I would like to hear good music I want it to like I want to feel that like oh shit

so I feel like I do give it a fair a fair listen I'm not going into it hating you definitely give it a fair listen because but you you hold on of the good moment. Like, I will say

you're, I would say a top three rapper for you is Eminem. Top five, maybe. Yeah, I don't know how it can be. But like, top five. But like, like Nick can Rattle off freestyles from 1998 that Eminem did. But like, the most random YouTube freestyle is too. But like you won't listen. I sit over a cow just from a joke in a laugh. Jumped up, choke the giraffe,

snapped his neck and broke it and half. But like you haven't, you haven't liked any project he's put out in probably a decade. No. I haven't since probably you don't like the new Eminem? You didn't like the new Eminem? No?

The revival of Slim and Shady or whatever. I just can't. The coup de grace. He has too many. There's not, there's no soul in Eminem shit anymore. Eminem back then, you could tell he was like,

angry, pissed. Fuck that. Fucking cutta grot of Lucifer. Now it's like, it's just soulless. mind-numbing bar of syllable

syllables sentencing. All right, well question number two. Let's keep, no, it's not even a question. All right. What I'm going to say is

Ice Man is a great fucking album. It's a good album. I wanted it to be good. Clip that. There you go. Like I did want it to be good. Like, I'm not like,

it's my new sub alert. There you go. Good for you. Careful. If they, they're going to hear you say that and they're going to call you dick riders. Oh, my God.

They're going to call you a dick writer. I'm like the least biased one here. Yeah, right. I'm definitely the least biased one here. You are in with the ops. You're the most biased. See, this is your whole fucking problem right here. Like, that's, that's your guys' problem.

Yeah, right, dude. You should be, you should be like every other Canadian I know. And you should be like, I'm riding for the home team. I don't have to ride for Canada like that, though. Like I do, but like I don't. But you do on every other, every other element I see you. I'm Native American, man. You're a Blue Jays fan.

Native Americans don't have to ride for Canada like that. You're a milk and bagged milk fan. Why are we bringing up logic? If logic had beef with G. Easy, I'm riding on logic. Because like Maryland shit. Oh, I was like, I don't understand. Oh, my God, bro. Maryland shit.

Have you ever lost the wire, by the way? I've tried multiple times. But I just surprised you don't like it. Baltimore shit. anyways they brought up haggerstown the other day and i was like really yeah they said hattel yeah he's over at hangerstown and i was like htow oh shit bug i do need to watch i'm gonna clip that um so wait what was your question i don't think i had a question i was just saying ice man's a good album it is ice man's a good album i do like it there's no

skips on iceman no skips there's like one or two listen i'll give you don't worry but i still like it so far gone shebang shabank it's not a skip. Jabang. Skips on I, there's not a skip. The only one I'll give anyone is, don't worry.

The only one I'll give any. The only one I thought about was, Keir, can you just bring it up on that, man? You don't have a, we need a keyboard too,

never mind. Please. Oh, bees on the table. I was, bees on the table is a skip? Yeah, bees on the table. Hell fucking,

it's just, It's just... Click piece on the table. I wanted something else. And click like halfway in. Dude, I wanted something else from 21 and Drake. God, like... The monitor went out to cut out.

The beat switch on the... Yeah. Like halfway through it. I just hate... I hate the hook. Could have been better. The hook's chill. I wasn't a fan of it.

I saw the feature and I was like... but the horns even the flow he uses for this just wait on your Spotify rap what is that double tapped oh my what do they say that's real fuck that you gotta double that trip of that where the

bitch is that yeah it's not a skip there's no skips I don't like the chorus. The only thing. I wanted some, like, fucking Jimmy Cooks or something like that. I was too hard for the radio. I was a fan of her loss type of shit. James said that it was, like, top three for him.

But now that I hear it, like, there's just not shit. Like, even songs, like, I tried to hate on Shabang. Tried to hate on B's on the table. Even plot twist. I wasn't a fan of it first. I like Plot Twist. Now, I like, like, Twist it.

Twisting it. Twisting it. I like plosters. We need to know. We need to figure out whatever handshake they'd be doing. Twist. Twisting it. I just love how that song's all about not understanding gang signs, but like it sounds so good.

I thought this was a skip at first. That song goes crazy. No, I like. I like Bernie Bridges. Wait, you said, don't worry, was a skip? No, I said that might be that. That's the only one I can allow people to say is a skip. but it is not a skip

I would not skip this because this is like classic that's like views drink in my opinion that's like cool you were you were saying like views is like late night drives and cold that's what this is sorry

there's it's just I will say make them remember I think is the best written Drake song of all time I need to hear it best one of all time I think it's the best I think it's the best I've ever heard of around. The beats are crazy. No, all the beats are insane.

All the make them know, make them remember, make them cry. Make them cry as well. Or make them pay, sorry, make them pay. That's the one where he's like, I'll be getting them confused. Okay. Out of all of this, I'm like, why is what did I miss on here? What did I miss is God like? What did I miss came out like a year and a half before this album?

Yeah, but that happens. That happens. That's, it was a single. That's what singles are. I wasn't expecting to see it. Miss goes hard. Dude, I think what did I miss is like,

what did I, what did I, let's go. I think it's like one of the best songs on here. It's just like, we've already heard it. So you just, nah,

mine. Like if we never heard what did I miss and it dropped on this album, like, right, exactly. I just can't believe he put it on there. Like, I mean,

I kind of forgot. I was, yeah, I kind of forgot. What's the song on views that was, that had already been a single? It was a fucking hotline bling, bro.

No, no, it was the song with him. Because on views, he had done a song with with the throne oh yeah and then he just did his own verse

yeah when he when views came out he took their their verse off yeah yeah yeah what was it called bro I forgot I forgot the name of that that song was really good but I forgot the name of it no it was fire like when we all heard it for the first time and it was just him yeah and we were singing it

and then he did his own verse we were like what the fuck what the fuck yeah that shit I think having played this album a lot at this point like a lot you haven't yeah no i've been i've been listening to it too i've played this album front to back a lot i'm not listen i'm not fucking sitting here and acting like see this is this is

the other problem i have with people like i'm not sitting here acting like i'm not listening to this shit yeah there that want to just be like i'm not listening to that shit like dude Shut up. People take sides. Like, just fucking listen to it, bro. Listen to what the fuck you want. People take sides and they, they, they are so opinionated. And people are going to call me opinionated because I just like say it.

And you go on, damn, Drake's the best ever. You go on Twitter. But I feel like the real opinions are you being like, how dare you? What, do you want to slobber on his knobber or something? What, do you love him that much? Yeah, dude, if Drake was right in front of you, you would lick his balls, wouldn't you? And I'm just like, dude, what? When you go on Twitter and then I start seeing people like come at you like,

white boy and like all that shit. Oh, I love it. I start to feel bad. I'm just like, dude, that's my boy Davis, man. You feel bad for me that people are calling me white boy on Twitter? Well, I'm just like, man, like, he didn't give a fuck. He ain't do nothing. I'm just like.

I like everyone. I don't like, I mean, I don't like them all equally. But I respect. I think there is a weird dynamic that's happening since this fucking beef that like, we're taking the fact that we're living in the the fact that these three dudes have been running rap for 20 years

like think about prior to them there was like what Kanye and JZ and Eminem 50 set there was like a and then before them there's fucking DMX and Tupac and Biggie and Snoop Dogg like Drey like there's a shit ton of people that are running rap

and then these three come out And there has been nobody that's passed them for 20 years. And that has been, that is what the big three is, is the fact that every time one of these three dudes drops, it's headlines. It's the big, it's the big deal. That's what we're listening to for the next couple of months. And they really haven't missed.

Like the three of them really haven't. None of them have missed. None of them have put out a bad project. But we could argue, yeah, future's top five. Yeah, I mean, future, yeah. Top five. Top five as far as like... Of this run.

Of this... This... I would say, I would say like... People want future on their fucking... Travis Scott. Of this era 100% of like since 2010. If numbers matter so much, like, look at his numbers. Like, it's crazy.

I don't really care about the numbers. I mean, I don't really... It's all the argument starts. It's Drake, Kendrick. It's just like... Jake Cole, Future. There are people that make really good music. And then there are people that rap really well.

And it's hard to find the balance between the two. Like, you're not going to get future on a fucking, on a backpack freestyle and he's going to hold his own. He's not. He's going to get obliterated. You can't put, you can't put fucking a battle rapper on a, on a Travis Scott song and they're going to sound good. It's not going to happen. These three have done both well. Yeah.

They make great music and they know how to rap really well. And not many people, nobody's really been able to do that besides these three guys in our generation. Like Kanye did it, JZ did it, Eminem did it. But who really in the past 15 years have really done it that well besides these three? No, there's always people that have a little run. That is why the big three is a thing. is because they're the best at what they do and they've been doing it for so long

and they were supposed to pave the way for a new generation and the new generation hasn't really lived up to that standard. There's not a person that is even like a seed hasn't even grown. We haven't even seen like a... Right, that's what I'm saying.

It's still just these three. There's no low... Like Losey had his time. Playborkard he had his time. time. Tori Lanes. Obviously, they can still do their thing. Tori Lanes had his time.

Travis Scott. I don't know if I said him, but like they all had their... I put Travis Scott in a different kind of. They had their thing in like a sub... Not a sub-genre, but like there's the big three. And then they're all just under here doing their thing with like their audience, which everyone appreciates. But there's no one that's like risen there.

It's like, hey, I'm banging with these guys now. Right. Like, I don't even know how it can... Like, I don't know who's going to... Like, if all three of these... I don't know how it's going to happen. If these three guys got hit by a bus tomorrow, where would music be?

It would be in a really bad spot. Yeah. Even if one of them, any one of them, if something happened to them, they went to slip into a coma or something, music's not in a good spot. Like, it's not in a good spot. I feel like, is that...

Is that been a thing before? You give me on that topic? I'm just like, like, Mac should still be here. Yeah. Mac Miller was another one. He could make... really good music. Like X, like... X, he made good music.

But they're still not like... He would have made different shit. That's what I'm saying. I don't know if... Who would have known if, who knows if like... X and Juice World and Little Peep. Like, who knows if they would have... Like, I don't know. Bro, they were so young. So who was running shit before Drake, Cole, Kendrick? Who was it?

Jay Z. Kanye. It was... Eminem. Low Wayne. Wayne, for sure. I think that that's the cool thing about the generation like like Wayne brought in young money which is like Nikki and and Drake and then I remember hearing about Big Sean through good music with Kanye and then I remember hearing about Waleigh through Rick Ross with what was it Mayback music I had to do it.

And then I hear hearing about Jay Cole like a lot of people I didn't but a lot of people heard about J. Cole through J.Z. And like that, like built that generation. But like, that doesn't really happen anymore. Like, what artists have come along on the backs of the artists that we have now? Because you've got J.I.D. or Jid. You've got Baby Keem. Baby Keem's fire.

Party. Play party next door, I guess. But like, these aren't like, I don't think they're living up to the standard that had been set. Like, I really don't think Baby Keem is good, but is he gonna be... Yeah, he's not gonna be...

What's wrong with you? You can't put... Baby Keem's good, but it's like... Casino's fire, bro. Saying there's great music. The casino's fire, though. It was great. Let's stop saying everything is fire.

It's not... Casino's great. Do you think it's better than Octane? I'm just... I just don't even know... Don Tolliver's album? Don't Oliver's album blows Casino out of the fucking water.

Like, Don't... Oliver, like he's, it's like R&B more. No. Don't Oliver is like arena music. Don't Oliver is like, like, I think, I think over the past five, six years, Don Tolliver's made better music than Travis Scott. You didn't like Utopia? I loved Utopia.

Utopia is unreal. I love Utopia. Utopia is unreal. I love Utopia. So maybe I don't agree with that anymore. Now that I think about it. But I don't like any of the Jack Boys albums. Yeah.

Yeah. They're all, they feel. They feel very thrown together. Utopia was like the one, like for him in the past like handful of years for sure. But if you guys get a chance to play back Octane, Octane like Don Tolliver's album, like when you're running or something or at the gym or something, dude, that's, I'm telling you. I need to give that a chance. There's a song. You need to give a lot of things a chance.

There's a song called Call Back on Octane that I think is so, I think it's the most underrated song of the year. But, yeah. I just don't know if I'm a Don Tolliver fan. But same with the weekend. I'm not a weekend fan. But I objectively can listen to his music and be like, this is good music. I don't really like, but I'm not like a big R&B guy. Like James is in love with him.

Weekends, he's good, man. I did like, obviously. I did like that. I did, I like his like, I mean, I don't dislike the weekend. Dude, Starboy was insane. Like, the song off the weekend's last album. There's a song off of the weekend's last album.

There's a song off of the weekend's last. album that I think should have gone like way crazier than it did. I just want to know who's next up. There's like there's no one even in line. It's very scary. Like it's like it's kind of weird to think about. I don't know who it is. To be honest with you.

Like another genres is there. There's got to be a lot of other like people that have sort of taken over. Hey, y'all. It's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder what if, like what if it doesn't hold up? That sofa was four days old. You should have ordered from Wayfair. With Wayfair, there's no what if.

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I just look at Weekend, like he's really good at music. I look at the weekend Like he's really good at music But he's not And this is how other people look at Drake He's really good at music But he's kind of just like a nerd Who's really good at making music

Like I don't find him like You don't find him sexy? There's not like a sexy aura about him You know what I'm saying I get what you're saying Fame gets what I'm saying Yeah not like school boy Q's got this like sexy or sexy Sexies

Oz What was the schoolboy Q's song Is it Blass Bless my. That's fine. No, no, no, no. No, no. It's fun.

It's kind of hard, like, trying to think of the song when every other word's the N-word, and I can't say it. But you know the song, Blessed? What album? What album? Play Blessed by Schoolboy Q.

I think it's him. I think it might be him and Kendrick. Yeah, no. He's not going to pop up first. You got to dig deep. Yeah, this song. I don't know if I have, I really haven't heard the song. I probably don't even know this song.

2012. You don't know this song? Skip through it a little bit. Yeah, just play. You don't know this song? No. This song is good as fuck. I know the world got more problems and it's much bigger.

I guess I'm going to die for. Okay, that's not. See, I'm not a hater, man. If it's good, it's good. He's funny, bro. I just can't deride when it's Avrilabine. That means average. That's what that's what Apple Levine means.

That's the opposite of like a shortcut to it. I'm done with rap though. No, you're not, bro. I'm back on, what's her name? Colby. Colby Calais. Colby Calais. Starts in my toes and it crinkles my nose.

Wherever me are you going on that Natasha Bettingfield. I'm bringing all that back. Like I had enough rap. Iceman comes out, but listen to a nonstop. That's enough rap for me. I don't need anymore. He was rapping. Let's take a little break.

The falloff into Ice Man, it's a lot of rapping. Yeah, no. Falloff. A lot of rapping. Yeah. Fall off like an hour and 50 minutes. Yeah. I liked it, too.

I wanted to keep the fall off his album in the air for me. But I don't, I don't think I can't. I don't think I can. I don't know. And I feel like Ice Man was so much more, or fall off was so much more. Anticipated. There's so much more depth to it. What's that?

Fall off or Iceman? Fall off, there was a lot more like depth, depth to it than Iceman. There was more songs about different things and that. Yeah. And how I feel about this and that. What do you guys think about Ice Man being like, like two years of like rebuttal? I loved it. I could have, and we just, you go on.

I think there's a big criticism of him, which I understand. I don't think it's a crazy thing to say, but a lot of people are saying that he waited too long or he's talking too much about the beef. But like, how could you not talk about it? And also what people have been saying prior to 2024 when the beef happened is that Drake's content in his songs was getting a little materialistic

or getting a little surface level. It's all about stealing someone girl it's all about how much money he spent. He called bone at the Masi it's always about his airplane or bringing up other people's coconut. Exactly. His substance

was I make a lot of money more money than you can fathom and I have sex with a lot of women more women than you could fathom. That was like his substance for like three years and people were like okay I'm kind of and that was my big issue with For All the Dogs like when For All the Dogs

came out I liked the album but it was it didn't move me anyway that because even on first person shooter when he's like nadine christine justine i pack all them in like a sardine yeah i'm like i don't care about that i don't really care j cole's verse was way way better j cole's smoke the shit on that but that so that with that being said i'll take him talking about i'll take angry drake over i'll either take soft drake like Marvin's room Drake or angry Drake over like I fuck bitches I get money Drake because I see what you mean unless he's very slick about it because he can be slick about it but he wasn't being he wasn't he wasn't he wasn't being straight up yeah he was being like it was

it was very uninspiring music to yeah for me I was uh too many of the songs like even the the make them pay make them cry make them whatever like a lot of those It was just like, yeah, good beat. Fucking formal peeping around the corner. Good beat. I like how he wraps on those, but it's like, I get the point. Make, give me something. We talked about this on the first episode.

Give me a cameras. Give me an over my dead body. Give me a song with Rihanna. Obviously, that's not going to happen. Give me a, you know, just give me something to, give me a passion fruit. Give me a, but that's, I think if. one of those songs were in the album, would it have been weird?

Give me a look what you've done. Like, just something like that. Give me a pound cake. I do. Give me a, I do, yeah, just give me a Wu-Tang forever.

Something like that. See, I didn't want, I didn't want any of those on ice. I did. I didn't want any of those. You're not going to get them, bro. If those,

and I do think his R&B stuff, which I don't really listen to, but like, with like Marvin's room or look what you've done or shot for me, it didn't seem like he was, using a lot of autotune. It seemed like

in Habibti or whatever, he was using a shit ton of autotune. And it's like, why, bro? Just sing. You can sing. There's a few songs. Like WMBA. Jungle is his best, like, to me, jungle is like the best fucking... I love you to

everything. That's the top of. That song. I think it's top of. It's just not going to stuff like that just wouldn't fit on this album. No. Like there's a this subject. Yeah. This album's like a a paper you turn into class

because there's a subject you write about that subject and this is what it's going to be about yep this it was about it was about how everyone it was him against everyone yeah it was about how everyone slide at him everyone used him

and everyone turned their back and then when he needed help no one was there for him how the fuck is anyone going to help him no no How the fuck do you help Drake? Exactly. That's a good point.

That's a good point, man. But. Yeah, it's number one. But you got to think about it from his perspective. Like, he's going through all this and then he sees DJ Khalid be like, you know, I got two Drake records on my next album. Yeah. No one gives a fuck you. You don't have that now.

No one gives a fuck about Cali. So you want to use me when it benefits you, but you can't say anything when I've given you music. You don't even rap. You don't even make the beats. I don't even. You sit on this track and say we to best. And I still gave you all this shit and made you all this money. And you can't help me whenever I'm actually going through this.

I understand. I understand how to fuck is anyone going to help him. You want him to say free Palestine. I understand where he's coming from. And I feel like you've got to be able to understand it. And I think it's an interesting. Now, if Kendrick came back and if Kendrick came out and made another introspective, you know, piece about his perspective of the beef i would like that just as much i want to know what he was like

going i want to know what it was like to be on the winning side as well like i wouldn't i wouldn't i wouldn't kind of endric's behind the scenes shit whenever that documentary drops like that's just gonna be oh dude i would love that should be a fly to be a fly on the wall in the studio of pg lang during summer of twenty 24 i would be i would one day bro i like when the heart when the heart part six came out and they listened to it i would have love to hear that. I would have loved to hear that. He would have probably been like, we did it.

No, I got some. We fucking won. Oh, schoolboy Q called you? No, bro, no, no. Listen, all right, what do you think about the hard part six? I need to hear it again. I probably got bored. I don't like, I think he was putting it.

That shit was a fresh plate of hot ass. I think he was putting a, I think he freaked out. He got put in a bad situation and he did not. think that one through. Especially the mother-eye sobered part. I didn't like that angle at all. But also, like, he was told...

So are we just ignoring it? Is that what's going on here? Oh, we can't ignore it. I didn't ignore it. I don't ignore. I don't ignore fucking meet the grams, and it was just as bad. Meet the Grams did his job. But it wasn't true. It was to suck the air out of the room. See, that's... But that's... We're talking about a rat beef. You know what?

Like, nine hours later? Not like Us comes out? Yeah, not like us is good But meet to grams is terrible So like That's an evil assort It's not like us It's terribly written It's terribly written

He said wow You're you're a nympho You have a daughter that doesn't exist And what if that daughter does exist Then it would be a lot different Where she is All right You want to close this shit out

Yeah Matt was telling us to wrap it up. Maybe he has other shit. I need a favor. I need a favor from Oveal. Last words from paying, man. No, no, no. I feel like this.

I feel like this was not like an hour, 10. No, it went by pretty fast. Yeah, we went by too fast. We almost needed to do it in like part two or something like that. But they cut us off at a certain point. Oh, we got cut off. Apparently they have other work to know. Hold on.

Cut this. What do you want? Cut this. This is like super irrelevant. Cut this. Like, cut this. This is your last words on the pod. man

all right well I just get it out I need I need both you all to just say fuck rated real quick who's rated just an OG I just need you guys

fuck rated fuck rated fuck rated there you go stay on that's what you needed yeah yeah well I just need him to know like that we all said that okay we did it

he a little bitch all right Pam any last words for the flycass man we know we could have got through still more to talk about there's so much more to talk about like you know it's not

caught off time in the day. Blame Matt Craig, man. Yeah, we can just blame Matt Craig or Paige. If y'all want to blame page. She's always fun to blame. That's a guaranteed blame. Any last words? Iceman.

Kenny. We were everywhere on this pile. We were everywhere. To the Flycast fans. You know, like always, always happen to you on the Flycast, you know. Invite me more on this. You know, I love being on the Flycast. Hey, we like having you on.

I love having you on, man. I like being here. And I think, lookie, think this is like our best one. I'm learning. Like, this was, this was fun. Yeah, this was great. This is fun. It's always fun to talk about this kind of stuff.

And you got, you got 48, or you got 32 hours until you're unbanded in my chat. Dude. Unbanned me. There you go. 32 hours. I'm watching your Minecraft. By the time this comes out, Pam will be unband. All right.

That's going to do it for this episode of the Fly. I think you all for watching. Probably back to a regularly scheduled programming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The next pod. Less album reviews. Unless you guys want Iceman v3. Unless you want part three.

Which I know a lot of people do. Let us know in the comments below. Matt Craig played out. Out of music.