The Flycast - We Went To A Hookah Bar | The Flycast Ep 149

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

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Welcome back to another episode. Shut up. Flycast episode. Who gives a fuck? Today we've got a special guest. Special guest. James Sellers. Hotest dude in Optic.

Make a wish. Wait, hottest dude in Optic. At Optic. Hotest dude at Optic. Definitely not in. No chain. No chain. No bitches.

Hotest dude in optic. Second most muscle in optic. In a avid marathon runner. And cereal. dater. We got a special episode today. We're going, a whore. Yeah, you guys called me a whore on the last episode and I'm here to defend myself. I've called this state. There's no defending. Okay, we're going to the hookah bar. We got a

special one today, man. We're going straight to the fucking hookabar. I have a weird story to start this off. What story? So I got out of my car. Oh my God. These dogs are beautiful. Park in the garage. I got out of my car. I'm walking past these two, probably like 20, 22 year olds. They're just like chilling in the garage. But I just walk past. I'm just like this.

Then I walk, I'm like 20 feet past. And one of them goes, I could for sure beat you up. And I was like this. I was like, there was two 22 year old guys. And I turn around. And I was like, why are you saying this? It's like, I don't know. I just saw like, you have decent arms with like scrawny legs.

And I was like, really? The fucking scrawny legs. And I was like, let me see your. legs and he had them in sweatpants and he like started going like this and i was like actually never mind wait and then everyone just like started laughing a little bit and i was like all right wait this actually this happened no i swear this this just happened before i got in here that's why i was like i'm gonna save this for the five gas but like what the fuck that is so random i don't think he could have me up for two he probably could have but there was two of them and then they probably

could have beat me up but like what i thought it was like Wait, can you describe what these people look like? You're like, Elie Thieves gear. They were street. They look like street dudes. He had a red bandana around his ankle. So he could have beat you up. Was it like a red band?

I don't think one of them could have, but I think both of them. But I think they were doing like, you're getting smoked. Like it's some like TikTok trend to like, try to get a reaction. So at first I was, no, they weren't. And at first I even looked and I was like, They were just like, are they like recording or something? They were just heckling for the love of the game. They were just heckling for the love of the game.

You want to simulate what you would have done? Should we attack him? And then like you simulate how you would. Yeah, I'll go for the cock. The issue is my, my back's squeaked right now. So I'll go for the back. I'll go for the back. Yeah, I'll go for the back.

That's probably better. That's, that was the first. That was the first. Especially in Frisco. You don't really. Not much. Not much. Not much.

Not much harassment. Once they pointed out the legs, I kind of. kind of shut down. Not much harassment. Yeah, you were telling me earlier that, you got decent arms,

but your legs, man, little scrawny. Dude, it's like, it's almost as like somebody found, like,

your biggest insecurity and just attacked it. Like, it was almost like you're being like on candid camera, almost. I think it might be

my biggest insecurity. That's what I'm trying. If your, if your biggest insecurity is like, as evident as legs are, that's not like, like, it would be cool if there was something

like a little more subtle, but, Like if James was walking down the street and somebody was like, yo, you got commitment issues. Yeah. I'm picking up what you're putting down. I think somebody's trolling you.

Yeah, just landed in Frisco. Got fucked with and harassed and bullied and then now I went to a pod. What do you mean? Land it. You drove to Friscoe. Love Friscoe. It's safe out here. It is safe.

I do go for runs at like 3 a.m. And I think every time I do it, I'm like, like it's it would suck to be a woman like no effect like it's it's it sucks that our world i first of all i respect women a lot let's just get that out there i think women are beautiful and women are better than us yeah but but it would also suck to be one because like you would be respected so much yeah it would it kind of would suck to always get what you want and have a shitty attitude but you get away with it your whole life because you're hot or

I can see. Should we make this a little more niche into like hot women? I feel like you're like you guys are projecting a little bit. I guess there's different types of, you know, you can't just bundle them. Where is this place? Good news, man. Nobody outside. Dude, it's actually hot as fuck. Step one. Step one is good. Are we jaywalking? Step two, jaywalk.

Jaywalk on the pod. Got a lot of topics for us today. Matt, you might have to cut this because we're breaking the law. We have a brand new soul that we've never spoke to on the flycast. and we get to just ask. I think this is the first time. Yeah, this is the first, dude. It is a little weird being on this.

Like, I used to stream and shit, but like walking with the mic instead of, being where Matt Craig is, it is a little weird. I will say, like, being on around the bar was way easier because there was alcohol. Yeah. Yeah. Like alcohol makes interviews 10 times easier.

Hitch is also like a good interviewer. And then me, um, Nick's actually really good at interviews. Yeah, he has done well. Don't think I'm a good interviewer, but like, I've done good. I think I wouldn't consider myself a good interviewer. It would be like something else. I don't know how this is going to go because it looks like the chairs are stacked up. It doesn't even look open.

Is it like a holiday for them? Dude, for hookah smokers? Yeah. I don't know. This is like national hookah smoke day. So they go to like a convention together. and then they closed down all the little shops i have no idea we i mean you're going to be the one to go in and find out okay yeah they're open from happy hour it's happy hour right now 12 to 6 it's happy

hour do we get a drank i know or do we should we did it over here if it doesn't if if if if we can't view it out here we can just go to the we can get a drink i don't know how to order at a hooka place uh we might need to keep the camera out here okay i was looking at myself because like i feel like me and you have been on the same little grind recently where like we've been locking in more than usually like I would say this is the most locked in I've been like ever for like a two to three month span for sure and for me as well I've looked at myself in the mirror and I'm just like I notice progress but I'm like holy shit I'm still so far from like it's like dude the other day I took a video post run like you know how dudes will set up their cameras and like

do walk their shirts off, whatever. They just finish a little five-mile or sweats, sweats running down the body. You're like, oh, shit, I look fucking probably sit. It looks sick. Dude, I just looked like a bag of milk. Yeah. And I was just like,

this is, it's, uh, I feel like unless you have elite genetics, it's very hard to obtain that certain aesthetic. Unless you, are you all talking about each other's bodies again? Unless you're like tracking food, tracking workouts. Jesus. Can you all fuck already? Like,

because I said that I was so hard. I was going to take my shirt off. because I have a wife beater on because it's really hot. Yeah, I'm sure. But then we were talking about how you never know how it's going to look like. I might wear a wife beater and then it might just look really bad sitting there. Yeah, I was on the, doing the halo pod, I think. And I was like kind of sinking down.

Maybe it was a fly cast, but it was just a fucking blub of fucking. Dude, it's so bad. Wearing like an athletic shirt, tits, fucking trash, titty genetics. Do I've been running five, like five case three times a week? like and then like less than that like walking or like jogging other than that and I still look at myself and I'm like why am I even trying it's not working like nothing's happening I'm getting faster but like I still look pathetic I mean there's some people who we know that you don't got to look the part but they'll still be they're still pretty good what do you mean like they're not like

you think of someone that like runs all the time and you does like triathlons and whatever the hell of Ironmans. Like there's a certain look you'd think. There's people that don't have that look and they're still fucking good. I'm telling you genetics plays a huge part in the fitness industry. Some people have it so not easy because you still got to do the work. But it's just when you have elite genetics and on top of it you're doing right, like those are the people on Instagram that you're just like, damn.

Yeah. And I'm trying to get like that. And also it takes so much time, bro. I'm on, I counted my calories for a few weeks. And now I won week two of counting my calories plus tracking my workouts. And I'm thinking like, why don't I? Where's the change? But it's like, no, you need to do this for like a year or two.

Right. Like that's when you're going to see. You have to really lock in. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, we'll grab them. We'll grab. Yeah, no worries, no worries.

Thank you. But it's just. a fucking process. If you guys don't know, James, how would you What is the fuck do you do? Well, I was going to say, what's your title here at Optic for those who may have never seen you before?

My title. The title did Roger grant you with? Well, I guess by technicality, I'm like a producer. But I think that's like, dude, titles are so weird in e-sports. because like what the fuck is a producer? Like what, like really what is a producer?

When I think, like, if you told, if I said to like a bunch of people, I'm a producer, they would think music producer, like, first. That's true. Because like, like, what do you? That's kind of where I'm at with icons, too, like, because I'm like starting a, I basically have a lot of, a lot of,

what the fuck? A lot of history and like, um, doing tournaments and like doing events like that. But like you can't I'm not going to be a tournament company. So I have to call it a production company. Yeah. So I'm a production company. But what the fuck?

What is that even mean? Am I making movies? Yeah. It's so weird. Yeah. I mean, we literally don't know. I mean, we're not selling any fucking tournaments. So we might have to turn that corner, you know?

But I think, um, I would explain it in like how I explain it to, I hate answering the question when somebody asks. Yeah. But like, especially like a female. because I'm like, yeah, I work at a gaming org and I film other people that are like, I know you don't say that show. I'm important people. No, no, this is exactly what I say to a girl.

I was like, I'll be like, oh, I work in like creative production at an entertainment and gaming company. Put the entertainment first, gaming second. And then I'm like, yeah, so we just, we just make like YouTube videos and shit. I'd like merch and make photos and stuff like that. Well, yeah, I'm screaming into her ear.

And I'm like really close. Yeah. You ever heard Matt Crack? I work with him. Yeah, you ever heard of scump? No, all right. Good. I feel like with what we do, though,

it is kind of a nice conversation starter with being able, or at least with me, even though I don't conversate, ever. But if somehow, some way, do conversate with someone and they ask what I do, it's like a nice, lengthy. It's just an interesting kind of job. Well, so now imagine that. And my answer is like, yeah, I like film that.

I, I know exactly. Yeah, you do. So it's like, my answer is a little less cool because it's like, oh, yeah, like, he's, he's like, honestly, it's more cool. But don't get it fucked up. But I used to say documentary. Yeah, documentary is a cool word. I make a documentary series.

Roger's been living off that word for fucking seven years. Because it doesn't matter what you make the documentary about. Like, if you make a documentary, thank you so much. And that's like really cool. We're going to have to figure this out, I guess. I guess it's going. Just past the condoms around. Dude, the fact that we're doing this is insane.

I don't think I've gone to a hookal lounge. This might fuck me up. I had a little bit of re-workout, which already fucked me up. I have like a nicotine tolerance. Then I had people challenging me to a fight, which fucked me up more. I've had a stressful day. You had a fucking day. Now I get here, Matt Craig, you have an attitude.

Yeah, he has been. He's been a little attitude later. But I need him this weekend. So, like, I haven't been saying anything about it. But to finish your, yeah, to finish your. Yeah, to finish answering the question, TLDR, I, me, Matt and Roger kind of just like, like Riley, Riley is, is watch party. Watch party. And we're going to, we get him back for periods of the year. Obviously coming up, once Champs is over, we're going to get Riley back, which is always nice. But like me, Roger and Matt, kind of like three-headed goat, everything. Yeah. From YouTube to merch shoots to sponsors to photography related stuff to. now like event planning and and stuff like so we we there's not really anything like there's an

occasional project that like one of us will work on um and only us but like for the most part the three of us are doing everything sometimes unequal parts sometimes equal parts it all like evens out yeah yeah no i call him out who does the most true matt craig does the most always Matt Craig. He's fist bumping by the camera. Oh, you want to hit this shit, don't you? He just said, I thought you were going to say hell, yeah. Were you about to ask?

Matt Craig? No, I was about to ask you something. But don't let him get it. Don't let him fuck you up by, you had the option to be a YouTuber. You didn't have to go behind that. It wasn't even an option. He was one. He was a YouTuber.

I still have more. I still have more subs than Zen. And people, and a lot of people, I guess, might not know this. But yeah, you had, now you're behind the camera. But you used to not be. So you had the option to stay in that sort of field. Why would you leave that? Because seemingly it seemed like you, like, I feel like you had the, the loud advertisement,

the shorts, the reels, the 10 second kind of personality. to be successful on YouTube. So why did you stop that and choose this shit? Well, I think, I think, and you guys can obviously, like, the nice thing is you guys can relate to this. Because to some, it may seem like, oh, so for reference, I had like, I worked at DeSeredo. I had zero subscribers on YouTube. Out of nowhere, I've always thought about, like, making cod YouTube content and this and that. And there was like a rise in population, obviously, with TikTok and YouTube short.

and like creators were just blowing up left and right from short form content. And so like, I think it was probably three or four years ago now. I decided to like challenge myself to like post a cod short or TikTok every day for like a month. And within like three months, I hit like 100,000 subscribers, which like was insane. Now, but like granted in in the time period, that was like the fucking worst worst mental. I've ever had. Why? Because I, like,

that's all I did. I was worried of these I was working. They're mental this mental that. You got a good kid. I worked 12 hours digging oil. Digging oil.

What James was doing was like fucking, I mean, that was hard. That looks hard. So why was your mental like that? Well, because so I was working a full-time job at the time at the Cerado,

which like I was a full-time job, but like I also was, it was the perfect job because I worked from home. Mike Kent never checked up on me. You don't have to, yeah, you can never checked up on me. He didn't know what I was doing. I was working hard though.

And so like I had a job where like they're in the UK over at DeSerto. They'd log off by like 11 a.m. because they're off in whatever land. And I could then like as long as the work that I needed to get done was done by the time I went to sleep for like when they woke up, it was good. So a lot of times like a new cot up day would drop it like 10, 11 a.m. and I would hop on like some of the new like updates or make videos and like I would do all that shit during the day.

But dude, I became so obsessed with like the numbers and posting every day and like, oh, if I don't post, I'm going to get like taken out of the algorithm. The algorithms aren't going to like me anymore and this and that. And like I stopped lifting. I convinced myself that I was going to like do a dirty bulk in reality. I was just being like a fat ass for like three months. And yeah. And so it's just like, I don't know.

after a while, I think, and also, Cod, like, wasn't fun. Like, I stopped fucking with Cod. And the idea, like, I had two months where I made, like, full-time money where I'm, we're like, oh, if this consistently happened over the next two, like, month, month after month, I could quit to CERDoh. But also, I looked at, like, the two months and how much, like, time and energy and how much I didn't like, I would log on to play Cod to make a video, but then I wouldn't play Cod at all. Like, I didn't enjoy the shit that I was making at the time.

This was right when, like, Warzone 2 dropped, like, Al Mazur came out. And I just didn't like it. Everything's just ass. Yeah, and I'm like, why? Like, when people talk about, like, oh, this is a dream job or whatever, but I was, at the time, I was just like, if I don't like, if I don't like, fuck with it, I don't want to do that. And I don't know. I never, like, stopped doing it because I still did some, like, in front of the camera interviews and shit for DeSerto. And then obviously before I even came here, I was, like, doing some, like, on-site interviews.

at the boxing events doing shit like that. Yeah. But I definitely... Who is a guy you interviewed? Don Tolliver? Don Tolliver? Interviewed Don Tolliver. I also, I interviewed Adrian Peterson right after he got knocked out.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally five minutes after. I was, we were walking back there and his, like, agent was like, yo, do you want to interview AP? I'm like, uh, no, no? Yeah, yeah. And then the dude from the share of it. Also, you don't know.

You said you didn't know football at all. At all. At all. I was like, and he just got knocked out. Like five minutes before that. He comes out and I'm like, I'm like, so how you feeling? Like whatever? And he's like, well, didn't go as planned.

And I was like, all right, well, do you got any predictions for the rest of the night? And he was like, well, I lost. So like, I don't really feel like I can give predictions. And I was like, all right. He's just down in the shower. Dude. It's why is it so windy? yeah that's the i mean that that's like the the shortest version of it of it possible but i feel like

hitch can relate to the stress of analytics and looking at pausing everything else in your life just to look at stats and like yesterday i was just i was beside hitch and you were just on your phone clicking some youtube studio analytics what this video did what and this amount of time this thumbnail that i'm in charge of three channels so like and I really I really want around the bar and my personal channel to do well so I'm just constantly checking it

I've never like made YouTube videos before like I've made vlogs and shit and like podcasts but I want to like I'm trying to do this like YouTube shit I mean you're doing all the right things I'm trying man I'm really trying The long story short the it was just too stressful of a even like mentally kind of

I can't imagine. I can't imagine doing shorts. It's not a full-time job. It's almost like a 24-7 job. I can't imagine doing shorts. Like you don't just get the long- We've never done shorts. Well,

and the thing is too is like, shorts don't pay that well. No, they don't. Like, and this was before the one-minute TikTok thing was happening where I don't know

if you guys were familiar with that, but after a while, TikTok flipped this thing over to where like if you're making one-minute videos, they were paying out. They still are. But they had to be a minute long. And so like,

that was a little bit past me and you could get paid pretty well from that. and a lot of people, and this is like something that's super hard to do just in general, but like building a short form audience, like I had 140,000 subscribers and this is like shooting my own foot a little bit saying this, but like nothing to show for it in the sense that like if you post a long form video, like you can have that many subscribers and you post a long form and it gets 2,000 views because you don't know how to make like long form YouTube videos.

I mean, it's like a completely different. You see that shit all the time. All the time. Because like some of the goats at short form, like, I don't even know if they try long form. Because like, why would they? Yeah. Like the Tony, remember, you know the Tony? He's like the best shorts creator right now.

Long hair. He makes like skits. I can't remember his last name. Does he do shit with like, he has a pet duck? Oh, I know. I know who you're talking about. Like a hot girlfriend, ski mask girl and shit. No, no, no.

Are we not thinking about the same? I know who you're talking about. Okay. But I don't think it's that guy. No, no, it's definitely not that guy. I think he does OnlyFans. Would you do OnlyFans, Nick? Different algorithms.

Would you? Wait, I'll ask that to both of you guys. The Bends our Optic goes. I would not do OnlyFans. I just, I don't think. Alexis has a get out of jail free card. She said if things go really bad, I'll start painting my feet. And I was like, that's the part.

I mean, I'll manage you. Like, we'll get. Dude, I wouldn't care at all. If my girl wanted to post her feet online for like bags. You know how like she paints? Like, she did like shit like painted her feet. There's probably. There's probably motherfuckers out there that would pay unbelievable money.

Just I'm like, I'm like, yeah, let's do it. That would actually, okay. So if shit hits a fan, we've got it out. Yeah, I don't. I don't need to. The thing is I don't think my family would judge me at all. They probably already think like I, if someone would, it be me. So it's not like I'd feel like I'm letting down the,

letting down the squad. If you had like a room, like say there's a room and you walked into it and it had every person that's masturbated to the thought of you in that room. Oh, it's a sheet of paper. The sheet of paper dilemma. Is that a thing? How much would you pay for a, for a sheet of paper of everyone who's masturbated to you?

I would pay a lot of money. Yeah, the price would be way higher like now rather than later. But like rub one out as a female as well. But here's the thing. Just master's, What if, like, your brother has? Holy fuck. Yeah.

I wouldn't even care, really. That's like the dilemma. I remember as a kid. How close are you with your brother? We're not, I mean. Not Jack. I talk to my brother every day. No, as...

That's better, though. No, it's not. If he was, like, one time I got really drunk and thought, like, damn, his physique is nice and so I rubbed one out. Like, that's not that weird. I'm not going to lie. I would feel, like, maybe that's weird, but I don't... Like, if the next time, every time I'm... Maybe you would phase away over time.

it'd be weird for a little bit I don't stick in that head yeah I mean I'm the only child so I don't know what it would be like to masturbate to the sibling nah me and my brother like like we grew up together we're full blood brothers

but we're so opposite it's insane like I was sports he was books I was bad grades he was good grades I was bad he was good but we're just so opposites once I moved out we just like now we'll talk on

at one occasions or like a birthday or something, but it's not even like, I feel like most of the time, if brothers aren't talking like there's some weird shit going on. Yeah. Like there's no weird shit at all. It's just we're both, like, I don't talk to many people to be honest. So it's like, I think it's just, you wait till we're socially. Uncompatible. I think that's so not socially incompatible. I think it's just our family genetics is just like we all kind of, even my mom would kind of say to ourselves. We're not like we, when the days, like we don't want to go out. Like, we don't want to go out. We want to sit on the couch, eat potato chips, drink root beer and hang with our 18 cats.

And that's sort of our, for sure. I think that's where I get my mindset of like our, I think our social batteries just wear off very quick. So I do wish I had a closer relationship with my brother, but I feel like that would be the best thing. But at least I do have a brother. I have some half siblings as well, a half sister as well. do wish we were closer but but not that close but not as close

maybe but you'd be cool if you was he was choking his chicken to the thought of you I just wouldn't even have like whatever whatever like sorry but like I remember as a cat's doing I remember as a kid we lived in the same room sometimes I'd have to tell him like yo look over there

and then I would that's when you were beat off on the wall yeah do you guys remember the first time before did you did you ever hear about that he used to beat off on the wall and then just I feel like that's when you're a kid, though.

You keep trying to bring other people in it. No one else beat on the wall, man. Y'all never beat off on your wall. I wiped the burgers on my wall. Y'all used tissue and shit. I wiped boogers on my wall when I was a kid. Oh, I was a booger. My mom used to get so pissed.

Liquor? Liquor. Licker, rubber. Matt, wall game for you or no? No. No, Matt,

do you remember the story? I told you recently about the bugger flick? Like if I ever Sometimes I'll see people driving And I'll see their window go down And then I'll see their hands Come out like this Then I'll start seeing this

I'm like they're drying up They're making the wind Dry up their snotty fucking bug So many people are eating right now So they're gross So they can just flick it out Have you ever tried to like Hock a Lugi out the window

And it like lands on the I try to those sides I try not to spit out the window Whatever I'm going fast Putting out the window It's like a fucking job I mean, you have to give it your fucking glass old car just like swerves over for a second.

I've had times where I've tried to throw gum out my passenger window. It lands in the back seat. So even just the other day, I think I was with Chewy or something. But I went to put down the window, my passenger window, and I put it down. Then I throw my gum, boom, it just hits the window. It's not even down. I'd move like the back right one instead of the passenger. So it just goes under my fucking.

seat, start soaking and shit. It's getting hot. It was hard as shit to pull out. I think I've done that a few times, actually. Try to throw something out of the window and your window wasn't down? That's not normal. That's insane. I thought I hit the button.

It's just for chewy in the back. How do you not know that the windows? I don't know, man. There's no wind hitting you? It must have been after like an insane run or. Oh, yeah. Insane day, like a day of working. There's every once in a while where you'll tell a story and I'm like, yeah.

Yeah. I know exactly what you're saying. Yeah. I've been thinking that for a long. Yeah. We were just talking about what kind of... Where I tell a story and you're just like, yeah. Yeah. Like what I'm lying?

I bet you there's some people that know exactly what he's saying. We just can't say anymore. Yeah. Can't say that word. Just anything can't be said. Am I R worded? Okay. I was just making sure we just...

How much would you... We were talking about how much did you pay for the paper of people that beat off to you? Oh. How much would you pay to get your name off of that list for other people? and they were just getting it for free? Like the whole world got it for free. The whole world got it for free. How much would you pay to get your name off of that list?

I don't really sure. Yeah. Because there's no one that like, I feel like you'd see my name and be like, of course. Yeah, yeah, I got you. Because I haven't beat off to anything like. There's not like a random person. It's not like Matt Craig gets his paper and it's like Davis.

Davis Edwards? Maybe some like. Maybe like a random ASM. streamer would be like, what the fuck? Not so random. Not because if they're getting that list... That still would be fine. But even then, that's like, I don't give a fuck.

See, my thing is like, if they recognize my name, then like... That's true. You know what I mean? Like, if they recognize my name, it's like, well, you probably thought about it, too. Just Sidney-sweeney getting that list. Holy shit. It would just be... It would come in a hardback, hardcover.

or school. I don't know just any female. That's true. Yeah. So true. So, dude, that would like just a fitness IG influencer. Dude.

Just thousands. It says ages too. Thousands of women on that list. Ages would be insane. Ages would be insane. You'd be seeing some like. That's illegal. Oh, it would be.

Anywhere from. I was thinking old gross men. 12 to 80. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe ages, but like 18 and up. Let's keep the rest out of it. disgusting.

Men are gross, man. We got to respect women more. You guys are too horny. I'm not horny. I'm the least horny out of us. I know. Who's most horny? Who's most horny in the group?

I know the answer. Mac Craig? No. James? Mac Craig. You. Why are you so horny? Why are you so horny?

I was literally sheltered as a kid. I was sheltered as a kid. No, dead ass. Dead ass. Was it one of those things where, Like once you popped, it was like lightning out of a bottle and you started fucking... Dude, I used to... I used to...

Bro. What was the first nut like? Bad? Really? Mine was like... It was like... I didn't know what I was doing. It was to the...

Topless scene in the 300. Mine was just in my bathtub. I stole the 300 from a friend because I looked on... This is how horny I was. Because I looked on the back cover and it said R rated R for nudity. So I stole it. on their TV, like with their wife in the background. So sorry.

I'm so sorry, guy. No, they turned it off after the booger flicking thing. They turned it off after that. But like, it was R-rated, it was R-rated for nudity. So I stole it. And I had a, I had a CD, a portable CD, DVD player. So I popped that in and I replayed the nudity scene over and over and over again. Fuck, yeah, I was like 12, 13, maybe.

That's sick. And, yeah, that was the first one. Did you guys, like, this might be insane if I'm the only one, but, and Matt, you can answer this too. Yeah, Matt. The first time that you guys like, um, nutted.

No, the first time that you guys climaxed, did you nut? Yeah, I think so. I, I'm actually, I'm 99% sure I nutted pre-production of sperm.

You shot blanks. I think I might have that too. I didn't even know that was like, and it hurt. My body was like, because I remember the first couple times that I jorked it, I just like, I don't, I was like scared. I think I accidentally did it.

I was like, holy fuck. I don't know how to do it. I was like, what just happened? I was like squeezing my butt cheeks. Bro, I was actually scared too. I probably told this story many times. But when I was like 12 or 11, I had a, I had a wet dream. And I stood up really fast and I passed out.

Yeah, I passed out. Like my whole vision went blank and I passed out. And I remember like I went and got. got my dad and I was embarrassed and I was like like I hey I I passed out my mom was freaking out and then my dad came into the room and I was like hey I just have to tell you because I don't know if I need I need to tell someone I had one of those weird dreams before I passed out and he was like really nice and supportive and he was like it's okay I'm sure he laughed about I'm sure he went to my mom laugh but but so from that day I was like scared to ejaculate because I thought

every time I did pass or pass out so that's why I think that's why I got so horny because for like two years I was really horny but too scared to to like if that happened every time you jacked off would you keep doing it and you just get used to the passing out you passed out and you just dropped for like but it didn't happen like if you were laying down

and you ejaculated the passout didn't happen until you got up so you knew it was coming either way you couldn't avoid it like you're like all right well I'm just fuck it I'm not stand up then and then like you could do it at night go to sleep first thing you wake up in the morning you walk up take your first step pass out pass out Pass out. You would have to find like a, you'd have to get like a system.

Like, like bean bags on the floor. Yeah. So like you nut, then you go to sleep. Then you wake up, fall on the beanbag. You can just get like a five more minutes

extra sleep. Dude. You'd have to find like a system. What would you guys pay for like your, your teen, your early teen imagination that you had? I'm, to have.

You're still there? To have it again? You're still there. I don't know if I'm still there. He has issues. to me in the scuff house. You're saying like you have no imagination. But you need the real thing.

No, well, I feel like I do kind of need to watch something. But I definitely don't get as horny as like what other, like some people, I think we had this talk with Touche where we were like, maybe once, maybe twice a week. And then Hitch was just like not like twice a day. I didn't say twice a day.

I said once a day. I lied. And I was just like, it's just not even in me. Yeah. So I do, do I wish? Do I wish to have the 14-year-old horniness as a 33-year-old? I feel like then I would be like, like you're just like you're not focused on the gym, not focus on the job or streams or what's next in your life.

You're just like, I just want to nut. So you're sliding into every year old's DMs. Well, no, I mean, that's not what Hitch is doing and he's like he wakes up. I do wish I was a little more horny. I wish I was a little more horny. yeah i don't know maybe maybe about something else yeah let's say that's been a little long so let's uh been a little long pitch you're back into running back in the running james has done a fucking marathon yeah i did do a marathon how do you did you know you wanted to do a marathon or was it like uh no i think

it was a trend thing a little bit i think after um the boxing fight that i did you're like i got to punish myself after that performance. No, no, I think that was like a insert the clip here. Yeah, insert the yeah, you can insert me getting punched. I think there was like, I got a lot of dope from like there being one big monumental event in my life that like marked a year. And I heard about other people doing this. And I was like, you know what, that's actually fucking cool. Like I'll always be able to say like this year I did the fight. And then the following year, I was like, all right, what's next? Fuck it. I'll run a marathon because that's just another cool thing that I could check off my list. I'm 26 and I'm like, oh, by the time I'm 30, I could have like six dope-ass things checked off.

I'm trying to, I'll have one soon. Yeah. Yeah, I went vegan for a year. Yeah, you'll finish. Is that one? That's a check? I mean, I guess. What is your check for this year?

The Eldon Ring? I mean, I will do an Eldon Ring stream, but I plan on running a marathon for sure. Yeah. This year? But yeah, it was the end of the year. Hey, you, give me back, my friend. You know what I want. Don't give it to him, scum.

Man, Hector's going to kill us. Why'd you give it to him? Because it's the cash app card. I can decline any suspicious transaction before I'm charged and even use the nifty card lock feature the second we get out of here. That's money. That's cash app.

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James' is boxing career. So this was one of your milestones. James got his ass beat. This was, I mean, I got to be honest, though. I give you credit. You got to take it. I have been a little bit. I do have to tip it.

He went in. Well, I can like you tell the story. It's also good because like if you're ever in need of humbling. Yeah. Right there. It's reminded to me every fucking, I don't know who did it. I think it was you. But if you go on my computer, this started at the downtown office.

If you go on my computer and you hit, you open a fresh Chrome tab, it automatically goes to the exact second where I get not. I forgot I did that. I don't know. I don't know how to change it. If you go in there right now and click on Chrome and start a new tab, it goes boom, oh, and the dog go sellers. That would haught me. I've gotten so good at like instantly just exit out, fuck you.

And then starting a new tab. I don't think we've ever, I think I did that like two years ago. We've never had the exchange. I assumed it was you, but I didn't even know it worked. Oh, it worked. It's been working for two years. I know you broke it down in like an hour stream or something, but I mean, do you want to do like a mini summarization of how is how, how did we get here?

I told Mike Ken, I was like, listen, Mike, it'd be cool to do like a influencer boxing thing. I'm thinking I can train for like eight weeks, 12 weeks. Like if like, what's good? He's like, I'll get you in touch with Keem Star because I guess Keem owed Mike a favor. keem he sets me up in like a group dm with him was like yo keem is james he wants to do an influence influence or boxing fight keem was like dope if anything comes along that like makes sense like oh i'm assuming in his has he's thinking deserado versus something or this or that you can do it and i'll hit you up i honestly didn't really think anything would come of it originally and i don't think this has been told publicly

originally I Keem and Mike both started poking at Jake Lucky for me to fight Jake yeah I would be right

I would love that and but how it was given across how Mike manipulated it is Mike didn't know that I was like cool with Jake and so Mike was hitting this dude up like James wants to fight you

and all this shit Jake was like what the fuck I love it why two weeks later I see him I see him at a hundred thieves party in person I'm like this is so awkward

I was like have to go up to him and like explain like dude i don't want to fight you his girlfriend's there his girlfriend's the nicest person ever i'm talking to both of them i'm just like i'm just like i don't know why she's with him i was like dude i didn't want to fight you at all it's like it's like it's okay he's like that's what i fucking thought yeah yeah and then he started talking tough he starts like his arm around his girl i know i know i know you don't want me this is the pussy else to fight me if you all have met jake that's exactly how he is he is he's just like real tough guy he's the toughest guy now. That's why you don't fuck with him.

Oh, fuck with that. I'll fight him right now. We can set that up. I'll find him right now. I'll take that up for free. I believe in you. But fast forward, nothing actually happened from that like whole Jake thing and Keem never actually hit me up. I would have done better against Jake. Well, I think I would have done better if I had more than

seven days to train. Don't start making excuses. Yeah, I would have won against Jake. Okay. There you go. I would have done against Jake. Well, Jake, shit. That seems like a call out to me. Yeah, Jake, stop training for whatever fucking marathon you're doing.

We could make this happen. You baiting for TikTok clips? We could make this. Well, Jake, it looks like Optic producer James is he that's called you out. Yeah, Jake, we're sick of the tweets, man. Yeah, would any of us ever do that? Jake, I'm sick of the tweets, gas on the podcast. You can finish your story.

I think the best, keep going. We were about to flycast you. We like asking questions and then why you talk, we just. Yeah, we like broadcasting. The attic just can't wait to talk over page. Guys says YouTube James Sellers, thumbs down. Oh, on everything. So a while later, it was actually a week after I accepted the job at Optic.

I'd talked to Roger, all that stuff. So I had told Mike that I was leaving. And I'd given like a one month notice. Keemstar tweeted out, we have Misfits eight like boxing going on in Nashville next week. we had a last second drop out. We need someone around 200 pounds with like little to no boxing experience. I, without thinking, I just DMed him. I was like, yo, I'm interested.

He's like, call me. He's like, call me. I need to know right fucking now. He's like, you either, he's like, I owe Mike a favor. My anxiety would have been crazy. He's like, I owe Mike a favor. Yeah. He's like, I owe Mike a favor.

And so if you want this, I'm going to give it to you. You'll be fighting Brandon Herrera. I'm like Googling him. He's like, he's a gun YouTuber. I open up his account, like, 2.8 million subscribers. he's like shooting bear at 50 cows. I'm like, fuck. So I was like, can I call you back in like 10 minutes?

Let me call my mom real quick. Let me call my mom real quick. I didn't say that. I was like, I need some time to think about it. I called my mom and I was like, I was like, mom, I have an opportunity to fight. Like, I'm going to get 10 grand either way, win or lose. Like, what are your thoughts?

She was like, James, do whatever you want, but I'm not going to watch. Like, I will not, I will not watch. Smart lady. And I was like, all right, wait, what? That she would have been so sad. For what? That you love. You see that happen to your son.

Boom. Boom. Yeah, blood. Yeah, blood. Knows everywhere. No mom deserves to see their son like that. Everyone is chanting, Brandon. Brandon.

As he says, Brandon. Stop it. But anyways. So, so, fuck, where was I? call your mom said yes 10 grand i called keem back oh i asked mike i was like mike can i do this and he was like because like i had work like i had to finish out my decerto tenure he was like if you let us make a video on it and send film crews then yeah you can do it and you don't have to work the next three weeks

and i was like fuck yeah 10 grand plus don't have to work but then i said yes to it i had eight days to prep i was at 203 pounds i had to come down to 194 i'd never cut weight in my life so i had to drop like nine pounds in eight days and learn how to box didn't have a trainer luckily my mom knew someone who like we used to live I was living in L.A. at the time

she knew an old family friend who had like a celebrity trainer that trains them at their house and he believed in you he did Eddie shout out Eddie Eddie was the fucking go have you seen the video that motherfucker he tried he tried believing in him

he was working with he was on team James 100% till the end even after I lost even after dude he was like I got

You know you've still got this. Bro, I'm in round three. The doctors coming up to me. She's checking my nose like, like, oh, can you breathe? I'm like lying. Like, yeah, I can breathe. And he's like, you got to move on the left. When he comes right, dude, and I'm just like,

you're not hearing him. What the fuck? Like, when I watch back the interview or the little ringside thing, I couldn't hear anything. He was probably getting flashbacks. Oh, dude. Of like real fights. And he's like, listen up. Bro.

Just locked in. His coaching comes into mine. He forgets you've been doing this seven days. He's like, After the fight, we're like skipping over a little bit, but after the fight, he like came up to me. He's like, I swear we could have got that motherfucker. And I was just like, dude, I'm just happy to be alive right now. Like, I had like tissues in my nose because I'd like to get it to stop bleeding.

And he's like shaking me. He's like, dude, I'm so proud of you. We could have got that motherfucker. He's like, he's like, listen, eight, 10 weeks. We get back in the, I'm like, dude. I am done. I'm never doing this again. Was it worth the experience in the 10K?

100%. Would you do it? I would have done it for free, I think. Like the 10k helped, but I would have done it for free just because it is the coolest thing that I get to like share with people ever. I think that's a nice little bar talk. The only way I would do it would be for free. You know what I mean? Like I mean, sure if somebody was like, I'll pay you a million dollars to fights on my shirt.

But like that would never happen. But like I think I think like if the opportunity was right, then I would do it. I think like if it was a phase versus optic card. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Six people, six fights, five fights. Who do I get to fight? Then for sure I would do it.

Who do you get to fight? I mean, I don't fucking. I feel like you got to fight. Which phase? You got to fight. You got to fight. You got to fight. I mean, they kind of like.

You think you fight ADAPT? I think ADAPT and I would be. I feel like that would fuck you up. Yeah, he's fucking huge right now. You think, you think, you think temper would fuck you up? I know that like. I don't think so. I know that like my mint, my.

If I trained, I don't see me. losing to any of them besides isn't there like jesper or something no no he's not on there but he he did like m mma type shit oh for sure or like boxing that's the guy who just as long as it's the shit out of fun fact i was on the phone with keem about me and hex connect me and keem this was like 20 might have been like late 20 21 or something but they were trying to do get me for someone in phase and he was talking about temper but it was at a time And I already know you're going to say excuse, but I tweaked my back. I tweaked my back before I got the call.

It's not like I got the commenting right now. It's not like I got the call and then suddenly my back was tweaked. But it was like the worst tweak. Like I couldn't even work out for like three, four months or something like that. And I was like maybe we can line it up in the future. But like right now it's just I wouldn't even be able to train. So it's like there's just as far as immediate future, no. Maybe somewhere far down and along the lines, yes.

I would for sure want to get paid for it. Because there can be some, some, I don't know the word I'm looking for it, but there can be some damage done and clips. For a one off. Yeah, yeah. That's like, let me at least get paid for that.

For a one off fight for sure. But I would do an Optic versus Faced card for free. But as long as I could train and stuff, I think it'd be fun. Yeah, I would say that was the worst. That was the only, like, shitty part about it. I do wish that like it was under a circumstance where I could have like trained for a week's and done the whole experience. Instead it was like it was the most anxiety I ever had.

I can't even imagine. That's what I like saying. I was in Nashville. I would be scared. I was in Nashville by myself with this dude Eddie who I had met fucking four days before that. And I'm just sitting in my hotel room by I didn't. And like I was so anxious like I didn't want to hang out with Eddie. Like and there's no disrespect to Eddie.

But like I don't when I'm like sitting there tweaking about holy shit. I'm about to get into the ring with some random fucking dude in front of all these people online whatever I know everyone's gonna fucking watch the clips are gonna live on forever like you said and I'm just like dude even the night up until

I was sitting my bed like how the fuck can I get out of this I was like dude what if I broke a bottle and it like cut my foot in the shower and I like accidentally I was like those thoughts were going through my head like dude Eddie I don't know what happened like I was having a shower beer to like really calm the nerves

dropped it, cut my foot open, like, I can't fight. And I, like, that would feel like such a pathetic feeling, though, if you did that. Oh, dude, you're like, God! I'd you start crying, like, you're just such a loser. But, dude, all those thoughts were so real, and it was like,

I would sit in, and also, I was losing weight, too, so I, like, wasn't eating. I was only drinking water. I'm just fucking shaking. I'm sitting there watching fucking food videos, like just on repeat. Not like Mayweather High. Were you watching boxing highlights and so. On the flight over, I think I

watched like Southpaw where the dude like his wife gets killed and he like... How did you fight? Regular or South Pole? Regular. I like a bitch. Like a bitch. Yeah, I can't do. When I rewatched it recently I mean bro it's sorry. Like I

want to make fun of you and I kind of do but it's also like I'm not putting expectations of my like I feel like I'd go in there and have like fucking Bambi legs like Bro, even something like... Shaky ass legs, like, so nervous. Even something I would be comfortable in, like, if I went and did the sideman charity match, the soccer match, I bet you I would watch myself doing that.

And that's a game I played for 14 years. So, like, I'm very comfortable with a ball at my feet. But even me watching myself, like, top down in, like, a produced setting, I would watch myself, I'd be like, God, I am fucking... Speed just coming at you, fucking... That and gross. And I'm like... horrible I can't touch the ball right so I can't even imagine doing something I'd never done before in eight days prep I would be shitting I mean especially when it's fighting

too I was that's never I never I've never been in a fight in my life like I've fought with my brother but like I'm never gonna like actually hit that motherfucker in his face yeah yeah I can't really think of many times like how do fights like I really like scrap like when you just like I had friends in high school it and a dude wants to fight you small ass legs but even then chicken legs. Am I supposed to fight right now? I wonder what would be the best

What would you do for free? Like if it was a card Would it have to be opt-of-feas? Would you fight him for free? I would give him money. What if you're in 16-ounce gloves and he's in 10? Doesn't matter.

I'd be too skilled. Too strong, too fast, too skilled. I've watched too many Mayweather fights. Dude, if you give me six months, I got you. Damn. You think so? Yeah. I think I naturally...

I'm just a freak. I went vegan for a year for no reason. But I just... Whatever it hits here, it doesn't leave. But there's some people who I just don't, I think just like don't have that kind of thing. And it's not like this anger to pull out. I just mean like a... Maybe like a coordination athletic...

You played JV basketball. And I wasn't. that good. You've always sat the bench. But it's, I don't know. I feel I've taken boxing classes before and I felt like a natural kind of. See, that's the problem. Hell yeah. Is like, I, when I was like, and I don't know if Eddie was being delusional

with this. Look at my. I've seen 50-year-old mothers and group classes, like do these same exact thing. In a class. Like, they're hitting, yeah. I mean, you're a 33-year-old adult that like, you see,

yeah, look at you. Sit back injured shadow boxing yeah sit back down but no I thought like maybe Eddie was gassing me up but like when I was like training I'm like yeah I'm a fucking athlete like right I play division two basketball I like I've

been a sports guy my whole life it's just different and also like the quote about like you're whatever it's you can have a plan until you get punched in the face like dude once you're in there and like shit starts hitting the fan and like you don't know what the Like, it's not like I could leave the ring.

Like, I, you're just stuck in there until someone gets knocked down. Yeah, no, I, I'd joke around, but I would never do eight days. I'd be shit in my pants. I would never do eight days prep for anyone. Except Mr. Beast, maybe. Like, it would have to be, or Obama. Like, it would have to be somebody where, like, people would know, like, oh, that's just the guy that fought. That's the kid that fought.

Mr. Beast knocked out. Yeah, exactly. Like, then I would do it, sure. That'd make it worse. But, like, there's not a single person. Ben, actually, Ben J. Nassim, I would do it for nine days prep. Do you think of something like this will ever happen? Like an optic?

I mean, I think it's got to happen in the next two years. Yeah. And Seth has to come. Even Seth has to be on board. Like, Seth has to fight. I feel like if he's not in it. Seth won't do it for less than we can't do it. I don't think Seth would do it regardless. Yeah, it's a lose, lose.

I wouldn't do it if I was Seth. Seth doesn't need an amount of money. Yeah, like I would not do that if I was. He's not going to get clout off of a fight. The only person I would fight if I'm Seth is in. There's a guaranteed. dub? No, he wouldn't do that.

I guarantee you. I don't do it. I'm saying if I was Seth, that would be the only person I would fight. You don't think Seth would fight Simp? I mean, dude. That's a huge lose-lose. That's a huge lose-lose. I would have my money on Seth.

Imagine Zinny wins. The thing is Seth is like so, like, if he, I do think that if Seth said yes to it, he would be a freak. He would train harder than anybody else. He would just get Jack doing push-ups. It would be fucking ridiculous. Also, like, he's going to get a legit-ass coach. He's going to have the perfect training regimen.

He would actually stick with it because he, like, when he, he's the type of when he puts his mind. Yeah. If Seth said yes to it, I think we would have to do it. I would put my money on him against most people that he'd be fighting. But, like, who in phase would he fight? That would be the best possible fight. The problem is, like, I don't think, like, Seth is wired different in the sense that, like, I don't feel like a lot of like gamers are.

Like people, I'm trying to think of people in phase. Like, he would have to fight like, because like, he would have to fight somebody that's like not actually a streamer or a gamer. It would have to be Rinaldo. Like, it would have to be Rinaldo. I think Seth beats the fuck. I think so too. But I would say like temper.

They're both like one. He won't fight temper. He would never fight temper. Why? He won't play. He won't play fucking Black Ops too if he knows somebody has extra reps. Like he won't play. If he thinks he's getting fucking.

fucked over at all. Okay, but let's say, let's say for the theoretics, like, he doesn't think he, like, he's confident. Seth is saying yes to whoever, who would be the best matchup? Like, even if they're more experienced, because, like I said, I don't think there's anyone with no experience that's in the

gaming space. He's on? Seth first, Kason. Seth first, Bayson. I still think Seth beats the fuck. Zuma. Zuma's the best. Dude, did you see Tommy's fight? Remember when he did that fight thing? No, I didn't. Yeah, Zuma. Yeah, Zuma did a

fight. Oh yeah. Yeah, he did a fight like stream a while ago. Like what Max right? Someone, but it was a rage. It was bad. I mean, of course it is. I don't imagine anyone he's being good. I don't think he trained for it. To be to be fair. I don't think he trained for it. But I think if the best

possible solution is is Zuma. Probably. Seth versus Zumo would I mean I think that stream would get 200,000. That would make complete sense. Yeah. And then Hacks versus Banks. yeah

I don't think Hacks would ever boxed I don't think Haxwood ever boxed I don't think Haxwood either but I mean I think you would probably have to fight Rage or or Max or Max or like Zinn

Isn't that dude like 56 150 yeah I think he is small Oh I didn't know he was sure You might have to fight I would have to fight one of the guys in shape that are athletic and Is silky in shape?

I was trying to think of people in shape. I thought if any of them are like fucking insane shape. Zen fights Lacey. For sure. Holy fuck, dude. You know what's crazy? I don't know who would win that. Zen versus Lacey?

Insane. I don't know. I love roasting Zinn, but that's insane that you just saw it. I don't know, dude. Lacey's... Have you seen Zinn dance? Actually, you're making great points. Like, Zinn...

I don't know if the hand-eye coordination... Yeah. I feel like that gives you a... like you're dancing in the ring a little bit like it's a little finesse it's a little movement actually i went to a boxing class i almost killed zen once going to a boxing class and he sends me pictures there was an intersection that was yes there was an uncontrolled intersection we went to a boxing class together and i wasn't paying attention like i thought it was just a left green oh like i thought you met like boxing no no no no and i i went no and i went and like there was like four cars going full

speed and i like made it through and he he sends whenever he's at that intersection he'll send me a picture And I'll just be like, wow, I almost killed you, but I didn't. But I do think, I don't know. Lacey, like, because, again, Lacey's, like, if the phase camp is going all in on, like, this huge boxing event that's coming up. They would train so much harder, bro. They're going to get, fuck. Michael B. Jordan's going to show up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Mayweather's going to be there on their side.

Dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's our, like, that's our, that's our, that's our fucking coach. Yeah. I just, I mean, we would probably, we would probably, like, help. Eric Hill will be there supporting.

I think, I think, I don't know. Sugar Sean. Sugar Sean. He's probably cool with them now at this point, though. Yeah, maybe, maybe. But no, it's, I think, I, I think that those are good, though. Wait, who did we say you're fighting? Like silky or silky?

Who's the other one? Seth Zuma is like title fight. Who fights Kayson? Because you know Kayson, get get involved who fights case on getting a tush tush tush oh two she two she two she case on it's like really good actually who does promote what homage and nicon pomage and scope amage is kosh and scope is like there's some like rivalry there even if it's unscoken but scy hundred pounds

scopes gonna get fucking railed there scope and who else pomage and nicon yeah but i mean even nicon small now but I don't know, man. I don't know if I'd... I think it would be fun. Yeah. It'd be fun to watch. It'd be fun depending on who I get.

We probably don't come out on top, I will say. I don't think we... I don't know if we went. It depends on the matchups. I don't know if we win. Yeah, it depends on the match. Because all the matchups you've said, I don't hate for us, for you guys.

Like, I just... Like, I think I have full confidence in... Oh, actually, I lied. Like, I said I have full confidence in everyone. And then we talked about why Zen can't. dance and how you might lose the Lacey yeah we're worried about Zinn versus Lacey over everything it is I don't know who I think too should adapt yeah I think it might have to you adapt it's like fucking jacked right now okay well get to work okay yeah I'll get to

work I mean I would say yes to that for sure yeah but I mean I wouldn't be confident if I have I had eight days prep I wouldn't be confident no no no no yeah yeah that's what I would probably end up looking like yeah my nose is still It really just depends on if we got six months. It would have to be six months out. Six months is a healthy amount of time. Six months out. Should we like end this segment talking about females?

Because I feel like last episode you guys talked about. Nick brought up. Yeah. Should we start talking about females? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, we need to get into it a little bit. Six minutes. All right. We got five minutes of female talk. That's probably just enough. Before Roger. Because you guys called me a womanizer on the last episode. Okay, so defend, we call you a whore, we call you a womanizer, we say, you're just defending

You've been single. I'm here to defend myself. Okay, let's start with this. You've been single for three years, ish. Thought it was longer than that. Four years maybe. How many, uh, how many people are you talked to in those three years? Uh, I talked to a lot of people talking to you guys right now.

Why do you think you're single? Uh, I'm terribly, yes, but I'm terribly, terribly scared of commitment. That's not a secret. What does that mean? I think I have, and I heard this a while ago. Like while you're with someone, you just constantly think of the fantasy of being with other people? No, I get that.

I've never cheated. I've never been cheated on, but like, and I never would cheat, but I have a fear, like everyone has like their chronological, like made up timeline that they come up with when they're young. Like,

oh, I'm going to get married at this time, and I'm going to have a kid at this time. Yeah, I thought I'd be a millionaire by 30. Keep going. Shit. But I think in my head I was like, oh, well, I'd love to get married by like 30 and then have a kid between 30 and 33. That way it can be a young dad, like play basketball and shit with my kids when they're in their teens, this and that. And so like, I am like very scared of getting into a relationship and then it like wasting a year or two with like the wrong person where I'm just like, all right, well, I just fucked off.

for two years. Yeah. And so I'm hypercritical. Like, and I think to a fault when I meet somebody, I'm just like, I'm scared to like make, because if I say yes to that and okay, all right, great, maybe we fall in love, this and that and it goes, and then two years later it doesn't work. Which I guess that's life. Like that's life.

That is life. Yeah, shit. Yeah, don't want that to happen. No, yeah, that would suck. I don't know what I would do. It would be like a, I probably like, if I had dogs, I'd co-parent them and then I'd get an apartment downtown. No, that sucks too. I get in a pet house apartment downtown.

And I'd like get hell of tats. I wouldn't do that. No? Nope. Just stay. Dude. What's opposite of that? Okay.

Yeah. Maybe do another one of those. Do cool shit. No. And I mean, to be for real, like I don't look at. what my situation was is a waste of time. But it is to a point now where I'm like, fuck

man, that was like, that was like over two years, like now I'm fucking 33 and it's like, now I've tried to go out a few times and I'm just like, do I, am I the oldest fucking person here? Well, dude, I feel old. I can't imagine how you feel. Bro, I feel weird in certain situations and then I'm

just like, fuck, like, did I fuck up? But like, really wasn't going to work? And how do I like, where do I go to now? I do feel all that. So you don't think it's like pressure, almost pressuring you to like force something to happen? Well, forcing something just not even.

Lately I've taken a back seat to it quite a bit. Like I haven't been on dating apps in like five, six months. And I just like, I'm trying to like just let it not let it come to me. Whatever happens happens. And I don't know. I, uh, I heard this like people were saying that like girls people, some some fucking TikTok, but it made sense. Girls are scared to end up.

alone and guys are scared to end up with the wrong person. And I, I can't speak for the girls, but I agree with the guy, like the guy thing, that, that's like my thing, where I'm like, all right, well, I'm at age now. We're like, all right, if I get into a relationship, you guys have, like, everyone, including Roger, Matt, Paige, everyone that I'm close to, all my friends here, like, we're a big old family. And when people get girlfriends, like, they bring them around. And they're like a part of the family, too.

I've yet to bring a girl around in the two years that I've been here. And like I've I think there's it. You have to see you like solo bring a girl here. It's always like you'll know someone when we're out or whatever. What I think part of it is just like I don't want to bring somebody around. It's like temporary. Like if I bring someone around that like you guys meet, I want you guys to be like, oh, fuck. Like all right.

Well, James must really fuck with this girl. I'm excited for that day. It's me too. Fuck. Yeah. How's your. Yeah. Yeah.

Any advice? Any advice for me? What do you think's wrong? with me what's wrong with us what's wrong with us you know what i think my problem is i i i do honestly think i'm like a little shallow i think i'm a little shallow i think i go for i don't know about i think you want to be a rapper i think i go for like girls i don't want to say out of my league but just like kind of shallow and but also at the same time i don't ever approach females And I feel like, so I feel like I don't even give myself a chance for to have enough opportunities to even meet a potential new mate.

So I don't know. I feel like that's my issue. Do you agree? Um, kind of. What's my, what's our, okay, what's our issues? Uh, yeah, I think James is scared, very, extremely scared of being with the wrong person. But he already said that. Yeah.

And I think you are always going to be. grass is greener situation and everything in life. So that's going to be doing for this episode of the flightcast. Thank you guys so much for watching. We will be back next time. Dream Act this weekend. Dream Act this weekend. Buy the tickets.

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