The Flycast - WHAT SCUMP TOLD US ABOUT HIS RETIREMENT | The Flycast Ep. 47

Episode Date: August 15, 2022

This week MaNiaC and Hitch talk about Call of Duty Champs and what Scump told them about retirement!  Check out the OpTic Podcast here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/optic-podcast/id1542810047 https://open.spotify.com/show/25iPKftrl0akOZKqS0wHQG MB01VRXLRVBBYYQ The Flycast Ep. 47 WHAT SCUMP TOLD US ABOUT HIS RETIREMENT | The Flycast Ep. 47

I was like, what if you just come up and I'm just crying? I was having a full mental breakdown. I heard something. It was like, hey, guys. Water, white claw, game fuel, the vape. This is not a fucking water. I walked into the studio today.

And I saw a pack of camel crushes right there on the, an open pack of camel crushes and I was like maybe today's today's today I just start smoking cigarettes yeah what I made it going on I made it 29 years you you sent the text before we got here and I was like wait a second wait this is my I'm my shit you're not fucking you can't be depressed I don't know I don't know what it is you've been in a funk a little bit I mean, not even like a funk, but just like, I don't know. I've been, I've been like on such a roller coaster of emotions because it was like, went to, went to, uh, well, okay, we went to champs.

One, the first day. It was really awesome. Then went to, uh, Maddie's birthday party, which was really cool. So I was on a super high. Then we lost the next day. And then, and then we lost champs. And then I get all fucking weird whenever I I have mental issues whenever we lose champs or like big tournaments like that Yeah, and then we went to Disneyland the next day. So I'm like skyrocketing him back up and then are you though? Not really, but I want to be yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm faking it. I'm gonna enjoy this while I'm here. I'm going down the roller coasters like this

There was I was gonna bring up a TikTok about that. It's like a TikTok of a guy who rides roller coasters and just turn he just turns around he like turns around and just That's just you on the ride. And then spend another day with Alexis in L.A. Well, actually, we do another content shoot out there, which was a lot of fun, but it was work. And then spend a day with Alexis, then try to come home. Every flight to Dallas is canceled. Yeah. So then 12.

So then 12, I had to stay another night in L.A. I have to do all. I had a shit ton of work to do, like, to catch up on. because whenever you leave Dallas everything is just piles up so then I do all the work I work until like 4 a.m.

And at this like random hotel and then the next day is like a 13 hour flight so I'm just like 13 hours or no 13 hour travel day so I woke up at or no 11 or 12 hours. People think it's like oh it's like a three hour flight

but that's like not well there was no direct flights. Oh, you had to stop? Yeah, so I wake up at 7 a.m. or I wake up at 6.45 to get to the airport. My flight leaves at 9, and then I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't get here until 8, so 11 hours.

But still, it was like, you know what, first off, I think that's not too bad of stress. I think that's like healthy stress. Yeah, but it's. how I'm dealing with it. If it was just like, oh man, like, but like I go, I get like existential with it. I'm like, dude, do I care too much? Like, I feel like I care way too much about everything.

Yeah. And I'm like, am I, like, am I weird? Am I weird? Am I the problem in every situation? Uh, is work ruining my relationships with every single person around me? Uh, shit. See, my stress is different than that. Mine is more like, you're, I'll look in the mirror and be like,

you're a fucking loser can't laugh at that like mine's like oh work fucking god I gotta catch up on this travel day fucking no I mean I well that's been my stress

my stress lately it's just you're fucking loser I the thing is is like you take that stress that you have and pile it and put it on top of what I have and it's the same shit yeah

stress I look at my self in the mirror and I'm like ugh what is that dude I know man I know I know I'm a

and then like I have all these I try not to snap when people ask me questions it's got to be I mean at least you don't have another person on top

on top like around you like like like being like hey like reminding you of all the stuff that like

because like unless your mom does I don't know but like Blake and George will say stuff Alexis will stay stuff and my mom will say stuff and like

I know that I need to do something and then when they remind me like trying to be nice people trying to be I just like I'm like I know I know I need to get my dermatologist moles checked out like I know I need to make this appointment I know I need to fucking get my car registration renewed I know I need to fucking I know I need to get the oil change

in my car because it sits there for four days months at a time like yes all of that yeah I'll have times like it's like I know I need to call my mom I need I know I need to like right now now it's like literally i need to get my car registration renewed i know i need to and shit like that's just i don't know for some reason it just like it's like why can't i why am i not this is why i'm such a big fan of the reeds page it's like they're like shit like that they're just they're on top of everything it's like they don't even fucking why why can't i just fucking do it they're a machine

but i bet you they're a machine because of how they grew up they grew up and they like a machine household. Like, I didn't realize that. I was talking with, uh, Roger Matt the other day. I didn't realize that growing up, like my dad worked out of prison and my mom is a teacher. And those aren't like business lanes.

And if you grow up... Both of my parents worked at prison. Like, dad was a CEO. Mom was a correctional officer. Wait, really? Yeah. How did I not know this? Did I know this?

I mean, you might have like six years ago, but... What the hell? What are the odds that both of our dads worked in prison? Yeah. What a fun. job that is um but yeah that like so there's no business like you didn't grow up like like hearing i grew up hearing my parents complain about work right same same i mean my mom loved her job my dad didn't like his job at all but my mom loved her job it goes in waves of like loving she loves the

she loves the kids and she loves teaching hates the politics so she'll complain about that but like my dad always said my mom wasn't happy unless she was stressed. That's funny. I think that's how I am. Yeah. Anyway. But like,

I feel like when you grow up in like a business home, you're literally raised different. Because you meet, you've, like you meet Paige's dad. And it's just like, it totally makes sense.

Perfect sense. Even, even, even, uh, her mom, it's like she's so, sort of outgoing their FaceTiming they're like such a you definitely get like the

I think that the all I mean the reads from I don't see the business side of all of them except for page but like you know that like her outgoing nature and stuff like that came from her mom and like some of her dad

but like her business like the way she's like a workhorse and that comes from her dad's side it's like I feel like I feel like growing regardless I feel like growing up in a household where they at least know stuff about business. I'm sure my parents knew stuff. They're just like, why would they talk about starting a company and selling it?

Yeah, you grew on the market. I mean, like, you know, like they don't. Everyone in my family, like, they all grew up in Hagerstown. They all stayed in Hagerstown. It's just a small town sort of thing. Yeah. And that's what majority of the world is. Yeah.

It's like the family that sort of grows up in one family, or grows up in one city. stays in that city and it's not yeah no one's like starting businesses and well the thing is ventures and there are businesses in small town like every town has businesses it might not be on the scale that like you're thinking but it's like the era most people grew up in was just like get a job get a house stay with that job go to college you get little promotions like whatever and it's just you're kind of set there for life and that's a decent life yep You're blessed to have that. Clock in and nine, clock out of five.

Work hard enough where you get a promotion and, you know, maybe work your way up in the company. Yep. But that is not the case for the reads. Yeah, it has not the, but I feel like. Even her sisters are like that. Yeah. Just. They're just like that.

So you, when we talk about the reads, we're talking about, I feel like we're having a conversation just between the two. We're talking about the reads. We're talking about Paige. Page, her two sisters. Her two sisters. and her brother and her dad and her mom. They're just really cool people. And the reason you're talking about them so much

is because you just hung out with them as if you were a read for three days. Yeah, yeah. I was with them a few of the days. And then I guess we'll talk about cod champs and stuff. But then after cod champs, I spent basically a day with Paige her sisters and her brother.

And it was just like the whole time I was there, first off I was like, I just feel like I'm invading right. now like this is family time like i feel like i know i stayed an extra day so i feel like page feels responsible for me so it's like i was even telling they're like no we love you and i was just like telling them how big of a fan i am of the reeds and they're just like i don't know they're just such good people dude that's what when we were at the shoot uh page said dude you want you want know something weird uh we were having like the best day like all hanging

out and all of a sudden Nick stops talking and looks over at us and said I just got the most anxiety because I feel like I'm invading family day and I was like something like that I was like I relate to that so like so heavy there's a I have a chat I have a group chat and it's uh me page Roger and Matt and that is the most active group chat I've ever been in in my life because we're always just like if one of us has to talk I can imagine that chat if one of us has to talk to the other one we just put it in that chat and so like the four of us like always are talking to each other and every once in a while it happens like once a month for some reason I just think what if what if like the three of them

like actually just don't like me like they made a separate group chat there's probably a separate chat that I'm not in or there's probably or like every once in a while well I'm not there they're probably like, oh my God. Like, thank God he's not here. And I, I, for so, and I don't know where that thought comes from. Yeah, I can say with you that is not a thought. What do you mean? Like, they are not thinking that.

Oh, oh, yeah. No, I, I know they're not thinking. I also, I was also, when we were setting up the bar downstairs here, there's also another time where I was like, what the fuck? I, we were all setting up the four of us. And I was like, all right, I got to pee real quick. and the bathroom's right there. So I go and I close the, close the door,

and they just weren't talking. They were just all on their phones. And as I was peeing, I was like, I was like, what? I imagine their faces, like, looking at each other, like, like, slightly sort of whispering. Dude, there's no way. I can't believe. And I don't know why my mind goes there.

I can't believe you even think of that. It's not, it's not exclusive. I know I'm talking about those three, like, But it's not exclusively them. Like it happens all the time. It happens with like every once in a while, like I'm hanging out with formal and dashy. And then I'm like, am I like invading? Like what if they don't like fuck with me at all?

But like I don't know. I guess people, what do people call that? Like when people are. I don't know what they're going to happen mostly with like famous people. When they're famous but they don't think they should be famous. Imposter syndrome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like it's like imposter syndrome, but not with fame.

with just being friends with people. Yeah, I've been feeling like that. Like, I would, usually, I genuinely, like, when I was, like, last year and then the beginning of this year, I'm like, on my stream grind, workout grind, like, I felt pretty productive every day. And so, I don't know. I just, like, didn't really care. I never really cared if, like, people, not necessarily if people like me or not, because

obviously you're always going to tell, you're always going to care if people. liked you but i just didn't i don't know i never have those thoughts but like these past like two three months i just like i haven't been streaming and internally i'm just like dude like what the fuck are you doing like like stop stop i'm telling myself stop going out start streaming every day start working out every day eat better foods you feel the best your mental is totally different but it's like currently i'm like caught in the wave of just like sort of that shit feeling and i i've noticed recently i get those feelings of like just people like i walk out of the room and they're just like jesus see that's not the case either i like i saw uh at cod champs

woke up hung over as fuck and i was going to the lobby for some reason i forget i don't i have no idea what for woke up like just woke up was so hungover because i mean what else are we gonna do at cod champs and then heading down to the lobby stops at a floor or how did it go it stops at a floor but my key card wasn't working and i was trying to like put it there to go to the lobby someone walks in there like hey what's up man i was like uh i got i didn't even look up i was like this is a figure it was like a fan or something

so I get it open it turn around it's Blake and I'm like oh shit what the fuck he's just like what's up man I'm like hey

what are you what are you guys doing he's like we're about to go to the pool I was like oh nice nice and then he like

walks out he's like all right man see or like have a have a go on and I was just all right

and I was like holy shit I just joke that whole interaction I wonder like bro I was like I was like

I was so hungover. I'm like shaking. My anxiety is high as fuck. I feel like absolute shit. And then I have that interaction. I'm just like, like his wife's in there with him. I'm like Jesus.

You could have said, you'd never met her, have you? Well, I met her before like a day or two before. It was like, you know, cordial.

But then like, that's her first interaction with you. It was just like, no, no, no, no, no,

that wasn't the first one. That's really funny. But yeah, I was just in a, I don't know about anyone else, but they call it anxiety. But like if I'm hung over, my anxiety is so bad. Yeah. And like, I still feel it from the event.

And I know it's going to go away. But when you're like in it, you're not, you're like, is this just how I'm going to feel forever? Like, you just worry about that. But yeah, just like little interactions like that. Like they walked out of the elevator. I'm just like, what the fuck, man? Like, they're going to go to the pool.

Then I saw George George where I was meeting up in Page's room because we were going to her sisters And George came up there to get like apparel or something And he was saying he's gonna go to the pool and I'm like well they're gonna We're gonna be like yo it's so maniac in the elevator He's fucking dude I don't know what's up with them Tweaking or something yeah I'm just like God just little fucking interactions like that yeah It's really funny and like usually I don't get those feelings Like, I have anxiety about, like, way other stuff or, like, way sort of different stuff.

Like, I don't know, meeting new people or, like, being in a new environment or, like, having to speak when everyone's silent in the room. But when it comes to someone I know and I didn't say we're all having a conversation, me and me, you, a few friends. And, like, I'm, like, not inputting in the convo at all. Like, I'm not overthinking that, usually. Yeah. Or, like, last year.

the beginning of this and like i just i don't know i don't really care about that but like recently just because i feel like i've been feeling like a fucking loser i've i definitely have more of those thoughts yeah no i understand that i can't believe you have those thoughts yeah i have them all the time i think a lot of it's because i mean i don't know i just surround my i mean i work really closely with people who are like actual machines Like actual, they're machinery. Like, Roger is a fucking machine. He wakes up.

He answers all of his emails, checks all of his Slack messages, goes and is, is, you know, like. Even like, Roger and Matt, like, well, even during like Cod champs, it's like we're hanging downstairs for a while. We're all drinking. And it's like, I can't remember. Did Roger come to the club with us? I can't remember. but it's like either way like they're out like doing their thing and then it's like boom morning wakes up and it's like they're just ready to go yeah like that the monday after champs i inspire to be like that

i mean same i i i very much enjoy like doing it but like surrounding yourself with people that are like i mean it does help you but it also is like holy shit like everyone like you take you that's that's how i feel about optic now it's like man everyone's kind of like doing their fucking thing i mean some people or they're just competing. Well, not just competing, but it's like their job is to just like perform well as a team. But it's like, man, I need to step my fucking shit up. And Cod Champs did not help that.

It was fun, though. Champs is, I mean, Champs is always fun. Champs is always fun. Champs is always a blast. And it's, I mean, it's, prior to IW Champs, it was heartbreaking, like every time we lost. I mean, it still is for me. I don't know.

I like go, I go through it where like I get super bummed, like super bummed. And then and then I'm and then I think why am I so, I mean, why am I so bummed? Yeah. Am I? I'm not that bummed. How am I taking it worse than probably the players are? And then that spirals me. That spirals me down.

It's like, what the, is it a mental problem? Am I fucked up? Am I putting all my eggs in one basket? Do I need meds? Do I need med? And then it's just, I don't know. It's such a, such an issue. Yeah, for the players, like, being a former player, like, I know what it's like to lose.

It's so depressing. But, like, they, our cod team is on a different caliber of, like, top players than I was. Yeah. So it's, like, especially how good I think our team should have been or, like, should have performed throughout the season besides like the the first event uh it was sort of i guess i mean we had our problems with illy and whatever yeah so it's definitely a struggle but just as good as our as good as our team is and how good i thought they should have placed like i i know they want to win and nothing else right see like a fourth place at champs for me it'd be like i mean i kind of fit in here

i get what you're saying i get what you're saying so it's like for them i know They expect nothing less than first. And the amount of time competitors put in nowadays compared to like when I was playing and just how scheduling scrims and it's literally every single day. They got coaches now and they're going over shit. So it's like I can only imagine like how shitty that feeling is. Especially like Seth, like dude, that would have been,

I don't know, I really wanted to see him win. Yeah. Because like as much his intention. entire life is this shit. I think, yeah, I think part of, part of the reason that, like, I want to see them win so much, which I'm sure is a lot, or is the same for everyone, is because of Seth. Like, I, I grew up watching Seth compete on teams where he was, he was the, he carried the team. He did that for years.

And, and then, like, he always performs extremely well at champs. And it seems like he just gets, it seems like he's put in a situation where he just gets unlucky a lot of the times. And that's a crazy career. Even now he played pretty good, right? Yeah. I asked him, I was like, be honest with me.

Like, how did you play? I was like, you know, regardless of stats, you know if you're playing good or not. And he was like, I mean, I did. Like, it wasn't like a standout performance, but he was like, I was definitely like, hold of my own. Like, I was playing pretty well.

And that's, uh, that's hard as fuck to do with three teammates Shati-Dashy-I-I-L-E to be able to like keep up with them because I've had teammates I was on a team like Demon Dish

sniped down and Tizoxic and those were just like at the time it was like three of like the best players and it's so hard to keep up with them so just like the fact that Seth especially after all these years

is still keeping up it's like it's very impressive and it was sad to see him lose. I guess that's why Hex had to talk him into taking a vacation. Yeah, he needed a vacation.

Hopefully, I'm just hoping the next game, the next game is really good. When does it come out? October, the weekend before Halloween. October, like, 2019, something like that. 20th, something like that. And this is a remake of... It's not a remake.

It's just... So it's not Modern Warfare, too? No. It's modern warfare. Why did I hear it like it was? It's modern. Well, it's, it is Modern Warfare 2, but it's not Modern Warfare 2. Makes no sense.

It doesn't make any sense. It's as if they released a game called Halo Combat Evolved, but it wasn't Halo 1. It was a different Halo. Oh, yeah. That's what Modern Warfare was in 2019. I guess that makes sense. So they're making Modern Warfare 2019, but the second one of that. So it's Modern Warfare 22 is what I want to call it.

but it's not monorfer two it's literally like they just I don't know I mean somebody in a it's confusing for people that have played Call the Duty for a long time but also it worked because Mono Warfare 2019 did really well

bless you thank you man do you think of Seth won he would have retired I don't know with Seth I don't either because I don't know if he plays I don't know if he He told me in the Hot Ones interview

That he plays That what keeps him going As the camaraderie of teammates Yeah And that's, I completely get that And I get that But I also think There's no way

He's no way in his mind He's not playing for legacy as well Like I feel like his I don't know Like I don't From a public I understand the rings

And the I guess The crims still have Most champions Like is you think he's like battling that or like trying to like get up there more? I don't I don't know if he's competing with Krim and Clay's legacy I don't think I don't think he thinks of that I don't think he thinks of that But I do think he thinks that he has been

Whether it's subconscious or he thinks about it often Seth's Like on paper like his achievements doesn't doesn't describe how good he is. Yeah. Like yes,

he has a stupid amount of championships. He's got a world championship. He's got, he's like the sixth highest earned player, something like that. But that still doesn't show that like for three or four years straight, it was weird if he wasn't almost double positive.

Like it was weird if he wasn't dropping a 1.5. Like he and Ghost and Blockups 2 in AW and even if you go back to MonoW for 3 like he was Like a demon on the map everywhere and like you can't really You can't really explain that like there's something like people talk about a Beesian Simp you can look at a at a piece of paper and you can tell how good they are they've been in every single every time they've been to a Cod champs they've made it a finals they've won almost all of them and their stats as well well their stats they have their rings they have the the the the uh um the money earned to back up like all of their claims like same with rcities but like isn't our cities number one rcities is number

one how much was it was it over a mill oh yeah set set is the seth is next in line for a mill i think set doesn't have a mill yet so it's like rcities yeah no set surely does not have a mill well it earned what was it Alec it's like Alec uh crim then the the tiny tears I feel like they haven't even

well I guess when the tiny terrors started playing that's when the real money came exactly which is that's that's the part that like doesn't doesn't describe Seth's legacy in my opinion is the the money

and the championships he I feel like he should have them if that makes sense And it wasn't even like The early Cod days It wasn't like I would like the earth

Like 2004 2005 Halo days It's like known really Yeah But Seth started When when it What was his first event

Or when did he start placing like at the top Is that like 2010? 2012 But even then it was like the competition since then has been high as fuck every single time and he's been competing at the top every single time

which is fucking insane I mean that is crazy that's crazy because that doesn't happen in other e-sports I mean you demons kids come and swipe a whole generation of pros out the tiny

the frosties the tiny terrors the frosties the shotsies the hooks yeah they come and they sort of And they just... But Seth has stayed... He stayed on top the whole time. I mean, it even happens in... It happens in every East part.

It happens in CS. It happens in... In Smash, it happened. There was a... I don't know if you know, like, quick story. In Smash... You love Smash. Dude, I love Smash.

There used to be... There was a time. It was like... It was like 10 years or something. It was something crazy where only five players won. Only five. For how long?

It was like... It was like five to ten years, somewhere in that range. And they called them the five gods. Literally only five, if you went to a play, if you went to a tournament and one of those five players were there, they were going to win. Yeah, that's crazy. And it's like, and now they're all, they've all stopped playing. Almost all of them, except for like, they got wiped out. They got wiped out.

By the new. It's fucking. I mean, it's, it's crazy. People that watch Smash are going to get mad that I said that, but it's basically the same thing. It's crazy how these new, like you look back at Halo 3 or like, no, Halo Reach, whatever, and like you see the Roy's, the pistolas, and it's like, it doesn't really get much better than this. But it's like somehow it fucking does. And it's weird.

Like, I don't know if this happens in Halo, but like in Cod nowadays, it doesn't matter who you're watching out of those 12 teams. It's weird if you see someone miss. Like if you look and you, it seems like everyone's cracked. If you, if that person, even like if you're watching somebody on the bottom team and they see someone, they're going to hit every bullet. It's more about like positioning and stuff like that. But like if you go back and watch when we thought like the best players of all time we're playing like Akes and Krim or on the same team, they're, if you watch, they miss. Like if you go back and you watch, people are missing a lot of. of the time. And it's weird to see

like the skill gap between then and now. It, I mean, does that happen in Halo? Like, if you go back and watch like, Halo 2, they're missing bursts, right? And nowadays people, I mean, Lucid's not missing. Yeah, you kind of,

I think you kind of chalk it up to like, back then they were playing on like 360s. So the input delay, the monitors weren't as good. It was way harder. Like, you're literally playing on like 60 hertz. But I mean, they still sort of kept playing until the game evolved. And like the monitors got better. And it's just like they still weren't.

I mean, I guess they weren't missing as much. But they were not like this new breed of freaks that come out. Yeah. Like I just, I scroll through TikTok and I say this every podcast because I love TikTok. But when I see Fortnite clips, no. like I understand being a good FPS shooter like having a steady aim even in 2011 when Forma was playing Halo Reach

his aim was insane like I just didn't understand I was like there's something like genetically good with his thumb he's like good you should say that all the time there's something about like his thumb but then I see and then like shit evolves the fucking the frosties and they just have

like they had like a different movement and it's like they're i wouldn't say their shots that much better i mean maybe with the sniper he kind of did some crazy shit their shots not not that much better but they sort of like brought something new like their gameplay just looked different then it goes from the frosties to the to the to the shotsies to the and then i just see these fortnight kids and it's like what the fuck i don't understand how fortnight i don't understand how Anyone can watch it. Like, I love what Fortnite did for gaming. But when I see a Fortnite clip now,

especially a professional clip, I'm like, what, what did I just watch? Yeah. I can't even tell when they shoot. I wonder, like, would my brain and, like, physicality even allow me to do that? Like, say I was 14 when Fortnite dropped,

I started grinding it. Like, would I even have possibly been able to do that? I don't know. Gaming just wasn't like that. Yeah. Gaming was you turn on your Xbox. And it's been like 10 years. That's just been 10 years since like

this shit has fucking evolved. It's only a matter of time before like, people don't even need controllers. One day we're going to get someone that's so absolutely, well, I don't know, man. I don't know. I think I was going to say we're going to get someone that's so absolutely.

insane it's going to be mind blowing but maybe we have already got that but like the competition sort of keeps up so where... I mean imagine imagine imagine watching I don't know

fucking Larry Bird play or watching magic there is a Kareem Abdul Jabar play Wilk Chamberlain Wilts Chamberlain's a good one I saw a video of him and they were like this is the guy y'all are saying this top five

and it was like he's like dribbling like this down the court and he's just so much more massive and like imagine watching Wilts Chamberlain play yeah and then you put Janus on the court like that's but people are going to see this

or hear this and there's someone's not going to get it they're going to be like no you don't like Will was the goat that's a that's a that's a alien that you just put on and that's that's how that's how competition just evolves except maybe like chess

I bet you chess Chess has probably been the same strats for 150 years We gotta ask the Botez is I don't know I want to ask them I wonder if Yeah I wonder if who's the most famous chess player

I forget his name Is it Magnus Carlson No it's I think it might Was it an Andy something Maybe not But I wonder Say he was

I don't know when he got famous Say like the 80s or something You're talking about Bobby Fisher Yeah Yeah. Wasn't he the goat? His middle name was Andy. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, Andy Fish.

He was the fucking goat. Yeah, that's the guy he went crazy. That's the only thing I know about him. I need to learn more about him because I don't know anything besides he was really good at chess. Then he went crazy. Apparently all the grandmasters are like a little. Oh, I mean, you have to be. A little off.

Dude, you have to be. To be good at chess. you've got to be i must like don't understand it you gotta be all in but i wonder if the i don't know when did he play bobby fisher do you know like was it 80s 90s i genuinely don't know we'll say 80 90s whatever but i wonder if like the players now like even the both test sisters and we're like what that dude's trash oh yeah i get what you're saying i get what you're saying that's that's a good i've never thought to ask that yeah or if like do you do do the yeah because that's how that's how

at least in gaming that's how it is I don't know if that's how it is in pro sports actually yeah in a way I bet you if you asked Mike Trout about Babe Ruth he'd be like yeah he was playing when they could chug beers yeah that was I was about to say

go smack a ball like he just he pulled he literally had like a beer gut yeah but he was just well I don't know like I don't I just don't know enough I don't know if the fields got longer the pitchers got better you ever heard the daniel tosh bit where it's like

you know he's he's pissed that that there's an asterisk next to uh barry bonds his home run he was like because you know he played played when everyone was using steroids so he's not going to go into the hall of fame and he's like yet babe ruth is in the hall of fame and he played before black people were allowed to play he's like that's got to be the biggest asteris

got it does make sense Yeah, right? Which brings me to my next point. What the fuck is that? Why? Why is Barry Bond's not in the Hall of Fame? No, it's sketchy talking about this, but like, why are all sports dominated by the African descent? Oh, they're just the best in everything.

Wow. They're just the best. What the fuck? Chalk it up, man. I know. It's fucking annoying. Because I always started in all of my sports or like basketball, always started. always started.

Then in 10th grade, I moved to a school. And it was definitely a lot more black people. And I pretty much sat the bench. But I was also on my fucking decline because I was getting into gaming. But it was just like, I don't know, it's crazy.

Is there a sport that white people are good at? No. So right before we left, right before Matt left, he said, I just wanted to wait until you guys got settled to tell you this, The AC doesn't work right now. And then, so he left the fan on. And we are, I'm cooking.

I'm cooking. I remember our first episodes here? Fucking, I'm blanket it up. Yeah. It is not like that anymore. Especially now that it hit August, it's fucking, wasn't it like a, I don't know about a world record, but a state record of the most consecutive 100 degree plus days.

Every single day. It seems like it's hot everywhere. Yeah. Dude, even in L.A. This past weekend was the hottest I've ever been in L.A. Really? Yeah. How was Nade's party?

It was true. Yeah, it was chill. I always get, I don't know. I just get weird at shit like that. Because it's like, I don't know. Like I saw like a naval, Hilton was there, Hax was there. But it's like, it's mostly that sort of L.A.-ish people. The L.A. crowd, yeah.

Yeah. And I felt sketchy, like, about even going there. because um i mean it's not like nades hit me up like leo come through it's like that's literally why i didn't go yeah i was like i'm not going to yeah it was uh like he was like yeah come through and then hex was there i was like yeah i'm gonna come through and then then i get there and i'm just like man am i even and then i talked to nade on the couch for a little bit i had the same thoughts i talked to nate for on the couch for a little bit we had like a little combo and then a little bit later we left and it's just i'm still thinking about

on the couch and I'm thinking like what was he thinking was he thinking like was he like man because of because like as the night goes on of course there's like some people that probably don't know Nate at all they end up getting there and it's I know it was his birthday party so it's like you don't want it to be I mean you just don't want like random people pulling up yeah you know people crashing it but yeah I fell back into the same mindset of like that's so funny that I mean that's literally why I didn't go Seth, they had just got knocked out, right? I think they had just gotten knocked out.

Well, I pulled up, I was like, we're the TST guys. They're like, oh, they're not here. I was like, really? Yeah, I expected you. Because you guys, weren't you guys just hanging out with them the night before? We were hanging out at, we went to Jack's girlfriend's birthday party. So, and Nate wasn't there. There was probably a lot of crossover, but Nate wasn't there.

Oh, shit. But, like, Seth's in the lobby. and he's like, yo, you guys going to Nade's party? And we were going to, I think we were going to Disney the next day. I think, yeah, we were going to Disneyland the next day. So we had to be up at like, oh, wait, no, I'm mixing up the 100thieves party and Nade's party. But regardless, we were supposed to, we were supposed to be going somewhere the next day. And like, I didn't get like an invite.

And so I didn't want to just be like, yeah, sure, I'm going to go. Because then that's exactly what would have been in my mind. is what you were thinking but then I looked up and like or then I looked at everybody's stories and it was like you were there and Page was there and Hilton was there and Seaboss was there and I was like oh so I guess it was just like a chill like yeah but like I you never know in LA if it's going to be a party if it's going to be a party with 12 people there and they're all hanging out on the couch and chilling or if it's going to be at a club that's what I like I like I hate when because it wasn't like that and I'm sure if you live there and you know all these people it's like perfectly. normal because in LA it's just totally fucking different. I assume that's what they're doing every single weekend. If we do something like that here, it'll be like once every few months, maybe. Like twice a year, maybe. But I don't know.

So I like the more chill sort of sit down, hang out. I wish I was more. But no, it was not crowded. Yeah, it was kind of crowded. I do wish I was more outgoing, like, when it comes to the parties in L.A. Because it's just a whole other world, bro. It's a different world than we're used to. Because we're, like, rooted in e-sports.

New York and L.A. are totally different. Yeah. Like, we're rooted in e-sports, and they're rooted in, like, YouTube gaming. The lifestyle. Yeah. Even when I hang out with, like, page or sister. or her friends like we

I hung out with like Paige her friends I actually went to fucking Mexico with them but I mean that was cool because it was just like eight of us or something so then it's like

I can sort of find my way in there but I remember I was in LA with them one night we went to a party like a not really a club

it was just it was such an LA thing it was like a bar but it was fucking massive like everything was super nice Everyone's dressed, swaggy as fuck. Like, if you go to some club in Dallas, like, it is, it's just totally different. And I just felt like so uncomfortable not knowing anyone.

And I'm just like, man, I wish I had fucking social skills. And I just get, like, the most social anxiety. And, like, I'll say that to people. And they're like, what? Like, you get social anxiety? I'm like, dude. Like, you don't understand. Especially if I don't pull up, like, drunk.

Yeah, like, yeah. I like have to be, I, I, I can get, I can get pretty, like, talkative and, like, loose and, and, and meet new people when I'm, like, tipsy or something. Like, it kind of goes away. But I also am scared to get, like, that drunk. But, I mean, because that, at a- You just pull up, you're, like, slurring words and, yeah. At, like, Maddie's party, I met a ton of people that, like, I've known, but I didn't. Like, I, like, there was the first time I'd ever, like, actually met Mars.

and I'm like good friends with Marcel But there was also like a lot of people there That like like Like because I know a lot about like the game The gaming side of thing or the like the YouTube side of things Like I knew everyone but like I didn't like know Like I wouldn't be like yo what's up toast It's been a while because I've never met him

But like I also don't want to be like hey It's at a club so it's like boom boom Hey Screaming I'm Davis some people Nice to me I've had people come up to me, like, doing that, and I, like, at a club and I, like, can't hear them. But I, like, know they're, like, introducing themselves.

And I'm like, oh, hey, what's up, man? Yeah. And then it's sort of just, like, you're just standing there beside them. Beside them, like, this is fun. Yeah, I need to work. I need to work. I need to work with my social skills. Even just going to a bar or something.

It's like, I can't just. Yeah. I don't know how people do it. I either. There's some people who don't give a fuck. I'm either. like hanging out with my friends or I get so drunk I start twerking and like that's pretty much one or the other options those are my two options I'm either standing on the couches see that's what

I was on one of the night nights and con champs like I can come down to the hotel sort of mingle with you guys because I know all of you and that's perfectly fine but then it's like yo we're gonna go to the club. I'm like, all right. All right. I'll take two shots and a mix train and it says a boom, boom, boom, chug it. Then get to the club. Yeah, we went on. It's like Nis Abbas. I think Hilton pulled up.

Attach was there. Some of Sabas's friends. Where is this too? Just a club? Seth pulled up. Yeah. Oh, I saw this. I saw this on Classify's story. Classifies. Clichetia's always fucking there. He's always there.

He's funny though. He's always such, I always see him like, classy. Yeah, that turned into a very expensive night. And that was one of the nights where, like, even the clubs there, the clubs there have, well, I'm sure it's like this, that place is over here. I don't know. Unless you're like a strip club, but it was a club, like regular tables, people dancing. But then there's like girls in cages, just like half naked.

It wasn't a strip club And it wasn't a strip club It was just like Girls dancing It was like Go Go Go dancers She because Rob Zombie has those At his concerts

It's just like He's just on there Man I am the water Yeah that turned into And there's just cages of women dancing I sometimes I tap into that mode Like that night I felt like I didn't give a fuck

I was like on the couch Fucking Like how you were at a Concrete Cowboy At the Tim the Tapman Tailgate Like, that's pretty much how I was. But then other nights, I don't know.

It's like, it's almost like either a hit or miss to where I'll either really enjoy myself or it's like I'm talking to someone, like a Nate's party, I'm talking to someone. We're done with the convo. And then it's like, you just kind of have your drink in your hand. And you're like, all right, who else do I know? Is there a circle I know that I can like walk up to? Those are the moments where I'd like, I'd just rather not. I'd just rather not go.

Yeah. Then be like, so. Sometimes if it gets too bad, I'll just, like, call Uber and be like, yo, I'm fucking, I'm drunk, man. I'm trying to get some sleep. But, though, there were definitely, there was a few of those moments where I was just, like, trying to find people. And I'm just thinking in my head, like, I fucking hate this shit. And I'm like, I know people are seeing me, so just. Yeah.

Stand around with my cup. It's always weird. I mean, I'm sure this is how people in L.A. are as well. but it's it's weird being like I always have a like a battle in my mind of like hey I'm going to an LA party to have fun and hang out with people that I don't know I could I'll say it's yeah or it's like am I supposed to be going to these parties to like network and I never know if that's the if I never know what the goal like what am I really do how did I get here and see I'll tell my just doesn't fucking see I can I'll tell myself just like, just be cool. Just be like even. I'll tell myself, just be cool.

Like, just be cool. Like, have meet people or, yeah, meet people. That's step fucking one. But then it's just like, I don't know, have them leave the conversation. Like, oh, he's a maniac's pretty cool. Yeah. But today I was texting a girl about this girl that I've like sort of had a crush on. Hopefully no one sees this.

Hopefully she doesn't see it. What's her at? No. E girl? Yeah, it's at E-Girl. Well, it's not a E-Girl. Oh, it's not an eager-hug. And that's what makes it scarier.

It's a real life girl. And these are the fucking worst. No, they're actually not the worst. I like them. But, like, talking to her about meeting up with her tomorrow for, like, a pool party. And it's like at some, like, I already know what it's. Hopefully, what I'm hoping, it's like me, a few of her friends. I think your sister's coming.

And say six, seven, maybe eight of us. us but what it might be and what i don't want it to be is be like 15 of us and then we go down to their because i think it's like at an apartment pool like go down to the pool and it's just packed a hundred people yeah like that's that's what i don't want but even then i'm like i already went over in my head earlier today it's like i was like thinking about it's like god what is it going to be like because i wanted to just like come to my place we can have a pool day my place just me and her chill have a relaxed day enjoy each other's company and she's like oh my sister's coming into town uh or like she just called me she's coming into town um would you be okay with going to

blah blah blah and meet up with a few friends and we'll have a pool day there and in my head i'm like or i'd say it like or i'd text back like cool as fuck i'm like yeah sure no probably but in my head I'm like, oh, fuck. I'm like, is it going to be, what's it like over there? I'm like thinking of the location. I'm like,

God, it could be popping. It could be one of those pool parties, like a fucking Atlanta pool party where there's a hundred people in the pool. I don't think it's going to be an Atlanta pool party. It's not going to be like that. But it's just like,

that's just like, God. It's like, how should I? I haven't been in a good mood since cod champs. So I've been so anxious. Yes. Well,

I'll say that. in a second. But yeah, just totally in my head about it. And then I'm just like telling myself, just walk in with a smile, be friendly to everyone, be cool. Just be cool, man. Just be cool.

That's, I feel like a lot of the times if you've met, if you've met me for a first time in that kind of setting, I'll probably be like, hey man, nice to meet you. And in my mind,

I'm just screaming. Yeah. It's just a person just screaming in there like, what are we doing? That's what it's going to be. I'm like going to walk up in the apartment. building fucking like hey

what's up nice to meet you but in my head I'm like shot shot shot shot holy fucking I'm like

trying to play it's so cool that's what goes through my fucking head I forget what I was going to say earlier

you're going to say yesterday started with yesterday oh no I think it was about cod champs oh how fucking depressed

and oh yeah yeah yesterday since cod champs anxieties of real things I guess for me

and of course it got champs I land it's Friday we get drinks I go back to the hotel like shower whatever boys about to play get to the event have some beers leave the event go back to the hotel have some drinks

it's like yo we're gonna do this let's meet up in an hour to chill for a second come down have more drinks but that's like four days in a row so it's just every single day I'm just waking up like hungry over. Well, I was going to say it used to not be like that, but I was like doing other stuff, not necessarily alcohol. But just doing that for Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, even like

Tuesday a little bit because I woke up so hung over. But just like going through that and then coming home and just like completely stopping. It's like it. I had so much anxiety like yesterday on the podcast. I don't know if I was overthinking it, but I was like, this is the worst. podcast of all time. It was like me, formal, Bose, Hex. Hex is just, he has to carry this entire thing,

I feel like. Bose is saying a little bit. Formal just seemed like, formal just seemed like tired. Yeah. I'm sitting there like anxious as fuck. Just like. Yeah,

like how can I like I need to come up with a response that's more than fucking five words long. Yeah, that's crazy. Like it kept bouncing back to hex. And like, I don't know if this. I wonder if this happens with like,

some of the most more famous podcast. It probably does. If it's like going through like the say Logan Paul's podcast, the Nelke Boys, whatever, Full Sin. Like I wonder if it goes on with them because I don't really like watch like like what is the what is the podcast with um, Burt Kreischer and um,

Tom Seguera. Tom Segura like two bears with something like I, I see clips from that podcast and I love the clips. They're so funny. But I have never, I don't like watch the full podcast. So I'm sure there's times where I, It's like, oh, damn, they're talking about something that I really don't care about.

Yeah, wonder how many times they have to, like, or if they have to stop or I don't, I feel like Joe Rogan is, it's insane how much he can, how good he is at keeping a podcast going. The hardest part about podcasts, if you do it, the Joe Rogan way, is getting that many guests. How does he have a different guest? And he sort of knows all the, not knows all the guests, but is interested in them. Yeah. So he'll sort of like, I guess, study them. I mean, talking with Matt, who Matt and Hacks obviously do the eavesdrop all the time. And it's like, it's got to be so hard to get that many guests, which is, which is.

Especially not. I mean, if you're invited to Joe Rogan, you're going on Joe Rogan at this point. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, definitely for like a eavesdrop, we want to start getting gas. I'm down for guests. Yeah. I feel like we like, I don't know. It's like, is there any other podcasts where it's just, I mean, I guess Bert and Tom, they have one.

Where it's just. But it's how many, like, successful podcasts are really out there? Just like, because just two people that talk every single time. What's the one with, like, Cody Co? I don't know. It's called like the Little Nut Gang or something. Something like that. But that, they're really, they're really good.

And they, they've rarely. don't think they, I think they rarely have guests. Really? But they just bounce off each other. I used to, I used to listen to that podcast a lot. Podcasts are, are, are, like, everyone does in them. Every, it used to, like, it's kind of like how vlogging was. Yeah.

Where it's like, no one was vlogging. For sure, it's definitely like that. Then Casey Nystack came along, and then everyone vlogged. Yeah. And then Joe, now Joe Rogan came along in everyone podcast. But also Casey, Casey Nice is in the same, like, parallel, Casey Nystatt was doing, vlogs and doing little like I think he was calling them like daily documentary many documentaries way before he vlogged or way before he blew up with vlogs same with Joe Rogan was doing

podcast he was doing janky-ass podcast in like 2010 they looked like Justin TV quality yeah yeah I don't think people realize how people he didn't blow up I feel like especially for me yeah I don't know he blew up in like 2015 2016 right yeah yeah He'd been doing it for six years. Especially in, well, he's even said that he loves talking to people. Yeah. Like he, and I feel like I kind of do. I genuinely do love.

I like researching. If it's a certain someone. I like, there's a few people I would love to like sit down and actually and talk to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's, I guess that's the easy way. That's, that's why it's easy to start. Like for the, the guests that I want to have on like around the bar. It's going to be easy.

It's going to be so easy. Yeah. But it's once you get to 20 episodes in, it's like, now who am I going to? And it's like, all right, I need a guess. And it's like someone to where it's not a fucking, I don't know, say a huge name or something. But it's just like, I need a, trying to do these weekly, need a new guest. Right. That's why I think it might be easier to film 12 of them and release them in seasons.

Yeah. Kind of how I was thinking about doing around the bars. Film 12 or 15. And then edit them. and release them weekly while I work on the second season. That's kind of what I'm thinking of. Yeah. I think, um, yeah, podcasts are fucking hard.

I get, there's so many times, like, bro, I'm telling you yesterday, I felt like I was about to have a full, and like, I feel, they probably didn't really notice it. But in my head, I was freaking the fuck out. Like, there was times I'd say stuff and it just goes, like, completely quiet for, like, two seconds. I'm just like, oh, my God. And then my voice, like, starts to you're really, like,

Oh, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, no, that's... But, like, I was already super anxious about it, but, like... I kind of have those feelings as well. I used to have that, like... It depends on the energy of the podcast. If we did a bad, like... If we do a bad shoot in the hex quarters, or, like, I just feel like it didn't go well.

Or, like, same... Like, it happened a lot in smooth competition, where I'd be like... And if I knew it was bad, I would get, like, super nervous. Yeah. Like, holy shit. like this is this is the decline see with the yeah but like with the smooth comp there were so many people that it wouldn't really I'd be like oh this ain't really on me like I guess I'd show up but you think like optic podcast does you're one of four yeah spotlight right on you

and I just feel like it just I don't know I feel like my mood affects my mood affects it so much for some reason like when it comes to the object podcast there's some days I'm like I'm killing it. Yeah, I think that. I haven't felt comfortable on the Optic podcast in a while. I feel like you're always comfortable though. Really? Kind of. I mean, I like, if it's you, if I'm on a podcast with you and hacks, I'm like, this is, this will go fine regardless. And I, I like doing them. I like doing them. I like doing them and I, I like being on the podcast. And I especially like hosting. Like, I like it when Hector's, Hector and I are both on the podcast, but I also really enjoy when it's just, when it's me on the podcast and like three other people.

Really? Because I enjoy hosting and right. It seems like Hector and I are the two people that host. Yeah. I don't think anyone else could host. So I used to maybe, I don't know, I couldn't do that. I feel like I'm a decent filler. But no, there's no, hosting is a different.

Hex is, it even, uh, I don't know if we'll have to cut this out. But even like 30, like we took an ad break. Yeah. And I was like, I'm a. or we took an ad break and I said out loud I was like I'm gonna be honest I'm giving y'all nothing today. And X was like he was like I'm fucking no fucking and this is why these fucking people they're commenting fucking that hex talks too much and I was like I know man like trust me we need you

and forth was like yeah man but like we need you to fucking talk because it's not it's not even about giving input because there's just like there's and me and formal talk about like there's some subjects or like topics where it's just like we just don't really care about. Yeah, sometimes we'll talk about random fucking funny shit and like that goes well. But then there's some subjects where it's like we know we need to touch on these and it's, I don't know, it just feels like we don't really have anything to give. But it's not necessarily about the input. It's more about the I know if I say something and it goes quiet for like a second or two.

like Hexel he's like so good at like not bullshitting but just like he'll somehow fucking find something else to like lead it to and I just don't I feel like I'm fairly decent at that I think you are as well

it's just and that's if it's a podcast with you and hex I'm like no this will regardless of though I feel like going to places like Cauchamps is validating in a way because you don't you realize how many people like a majority A majority of people lurk.

A majority of people don't comment. You know what I mean? They don't, a majority of people that are watching the optic podcast, that are watching the flycast, that are watching optic content, they're not commenting. They're not, they're not tweeting at you and saying, hey, good job. Or damn, you suck. Yeah. A majority of people turn it on, watch it, and then they watch something else or they go about

their day. No one's even fucking thinking about it that deep. Right. And so like when you go to these events and there's hundreds of people coming. coming up to you, be like, dude, I love you on the flycast, or I love you on the Optic podcast. Then you're, then it validates. But like that doesn't change the fact that for some reason, like I'm doing well on TST. People love T like, like people, like, doing well in the flycast.

People like it. But then when I check an optic, optic podcast comment, there's like, holy shit. Or like a Reddit. Hitch won't fuck, shut the fuck up. Or it's like, hitch is so fucking annoying in these. It's just like. Still, I'm almost 30 years old. And still, I'm just like.

like damn was I annoying my like dude I need to get rid of that fucking mindset you do you I have noticed that like you sometimes

you'll think you're annoying or it's like somehow that is the that is the root of my issues the root of all of my issues is am I not I'm

am I not self aware that I'm annoying someone or that I am like being like for some reason like people want to get away from me. There's people like that and you're not one of them.

But going to yeah going to Cod Champs and having like like I've been saying last few months I've been like just felt so distant from the scene

like I'm not on YouTube like I don't have those YouTube comments I'm not on haven't been on Twitch to where you know people are just fucking hyping you up because they love you. Yeah.

But like going to the event, it was like, I'm going to the bathroom and it's like, one person asked for like, oh, maniac, can I get a pick? And then it's like, boom, a fucking line charge. And I'm there for like 30 minutes. And in my head, I was like, in my head, I was like, God, I want to just go to the bathroom, come back up and like sit down with my beer and watch the match. Yeah. But then I'm also literally, I remember standing there, like taking pictures. I was like, this feels pretty good actually. Yeah.

I was like, this, like, just seeing a line still form because I was like, man, like, I don't know, I just felt so dissing. I was like, people that like, I'm like being forgot about. There are. And the thing is, is like, that's not, not to make, make your thoughts even worse, but that's not a far-fetched thought. I've seen people that were killing it back in the day and they walk around. See, that's not helping. They walk, I know, but you're not like that. You're saying they walk around the event and it's like,

and no one like stops them. Maybe somebody will be like, hey, Bob and they're like, Bobby Poff, like you got to step it up. I tried to think of a, I tried to think of a,

the most plan name. No, not Bobby Poff. Bob had his own, his own line. Yeah, yeah, Bobby's the man. There are people that used to crush it back in the day and we're extremely

famous and now they, you know, they just walk around free. And that's not a bad thing. if that's what they want. I mean, sometimes I'll convince myself. Like, you know what? Like, maybe I don't want, like, the fame or, like, fans, or, like, maybe I just want

to be low-key with it. And it's like, but am I just saying that because I feel like I'm slightly falling off and that'll make me feel better if, like, that actually does happen? Yeah. But, no. Godchamps was a nice reminder. Yeah. It was nice.

And plus, like, last year, we didn't really get to go to many, like, there were no events. There was Champs, but Champs was kind of empty last year. It's crazy how the fucking LA Thieves walk out and they're getting booed. And then every, I'm in the upper bleachers and every single shirt I see is an Optic Texas shirt. I'm like, God damn. Yeah. This shit is still going like 10 years strong. Still going strong.

Which is like, it's incredible. And I hope it keeps growing strong. And we'll, let's hope we get a major next year. Because who knows if we'll get one? And then the optic major next year, if there is one, would be, I think it's going to be insane. Because we actually, I feel like we crushed it this year and we had like no time to plan. So if we do it next year. Big stuff.

We're going to be rap battling on stage. Damn. What I was that for a time. See, see, what's funny? I'm not even trying to end the podcast here, but I was watching Tayrock versus Murdo Mook, and like they used to be in a dot mob together, whatever. Yeah.

Tayrock joined Dot Mob. And so, like, they were close for a while. And then they battled, and it was a fucking war. And I was like, is this what it would be like if I battled hitch? fucking yeah I wonder how hard you would go like if we actually battled how hard would we go

because that's like when Thesaurus and Ilmak battled each other Ilmak won because he just went harder yeah he just went more personal so if you want to win I actually just watch that battle weirdly I've been watching battle rap lately if you want to win you have to go

more personal than the other like that's literally like in battle rap it's not like a word if I actually If it is a personal battle, you've got to go more personal. I just don't think I'd be able to memorize that much shit. The amount of... But yeah, I feel like I would have to...

You'd have to go. I can't... Even if I lose, like, I still have to, like, fight for my life. Fight for my life. I don't even know what I'd write. It would be, like, very... It would either have to be very bland, like, patiently waiting. I know you.

Patiently waiting in a Vist's shirt. You know me What? You think I had like rehab bars and shit? I mean I would if you didn't have that I'd be mad Yeah I would be fun

Yeah I'd have to I have to get drunk Yeah Put on a fucking Ficking completely Fucking thick skin Yeah

Like okay That just gives me anxiety Just thinking about Dead silence A whole crowd around me Imagine I imagine Dude

I feel like going on stage at a rap battle and saying a line that you've practiced for months and it doesn't hit, that would be, that would be, I mean, it'd be the same as like a stand-up comic being like, oh, this joke is going to be amazing and it palms. Like,

how do you recover? The thing about comedians, it's like they sort of know that's going to happen. Yeah. And I guess battle rappers do as well. Every battle rapper knows that like something's not going to hit. And you're going to say something corny. Something corny has said in every battle ever.

No. But, like. But coming out with a line. And then you're very first, like, four bars. Bang or line, like. Yeah. That would be a crazy feeling. I feel like that, like, I will rewatch the, the Averb, uh, hitman holla line for the rest of my life.

Yeah. Just because, like, that has to be, that has to be. Is that the, yo, big Gerald. Yeah. That's how you talk to your son. Jesus. After that, like, the crowd cheered for like a minute. He should have, I think he should have ended his,

that should have been the last thing he said, because he goes on for another minute. Does he? Yeah, exactly. No one remembers that minute. Like after that, you got to read the room. I think back now and I'm assuming that was like how he ended the battle or something. Oh, shit.

That battle's so good. Because he also has the, I shoot soon as I get in like I'm J.R. Smith. That was like hitman, dude, that battle's real. I gotta go back and watch that battle. Yeah. I've been on a little battle rap kick lately. We got guests coming soon. Guest coming soon. Guest coming soon.

We got a good guess. We're upgrading. Page read next. Page read next. We brag about the fan. Imagine just have the whole family fly down. The whole Reed family. The thing is, if that happened, everyone would seem like, I totally get it now.

They were just like, wow. They're amazing. We wouldn't even talk. It was me that I'm talking. Well, I just think, oh, oh, oh. love the reads all right thank you all for watching another episode of flakass uh emac Craig do me a favor play my motherfucking bee