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Who's the goat?
You know what I do.
Ola, maybe tied for second?
Who's third?
Lethal?
Aniac.
Oh.
I'm not.
I don't even chip.
50, 100.
I don't even know.
200.
I don't know.
I don't know what's good.
Everybody.
Welcome back.
Welcome.
Welcome.
Welcome back.
Welcome back.
To another episode of the fly cast.
Usually when we have guests on, we have them kick it off with a hip-hop freestyle.
I will not be doing that.
Yeah.
I've retired from that as well
What should have paper am I like
What do you mean?
Like some card stock over here
White as hell
I'm not doing that
What episode is this?
104
It's so far up there now
Is this your second podcast ever?
We're here with
The newest member of Optic
The newest member of our Halo team
He used to go by Penguin
which was probably my favorite gamer tag.
And now he goes by Dead Zone.
Welcome to the Flycast.
You're a new favorite gamer tag.
I don't know if I like that.
He made a little like that.
He said in the door.
He preferred the old one.
Really?
That's the first thing he said to me.
The first thing he said to me today
was that he weighs 218 pounds.
Mike's in my face.
There's hairs on my mic.
I don't know if I like Dead Zone.
Why?
Do we start there?
I mean, if you want to.
I think about before these podcasts,
if we have a guess.
especially if it's someone
have we had a guess of someone we
don't really know like that
not really no I feel like everyone that comes on
is like a fucking Bose
and
someone we already know we had TJ on
so there's so much to learn
about our newest optic halo
member dead zone
and where do we start
is there any fucking do we start
with the what's going
fuck Halo so boring
How do you, how do you, how do you play?
Damn.
How do you, playing this shit forever?
Do you still enjoy playing Halo Infinite?
Um, no, I think I enjoy it now more than ever, honestly.
I think the game.
What?
He's angry, man.
He's just an angry man.
About me just enjoying the game.
You enjoy Halo Infinite now?
Oh, he's seen with Form.
Well, no, it's not.
People have joy.
No, it's not even just the team.
It's like, honestly, like, the direction the sandbox is gone, like the updates they've made.
they've actually updated the game quite a bit
I just definitely prefer the starting weapon man
that's like the that's like the main thing
you prefer the bandit over the bair yeah 100%
to wait it's like makes it like it's free information
it's more skillful you can keep track of the game better
everything's less random you know especially online
let's start how did you get here
to opta kill is this a lot hold up is this a lot to be talked about
like I don't I don't even know how from SSG you got here
I mean, you know
It's like that thing
Did you get dropped?
I mean, yeah
I got dropped
It's just like that thing
Like you know
If you don't win
Like you're probably gonna want
To change something up right
I think Last Worlds
was probably the only time
Where we didn't win
Where everyone felt like
They didn't want to change it up
Because we'd only been a team for what
Two Lans
Bound was still an up and comer
Like we wanted to give it the run back
So we did
We failed so many times on SSG
You guys were so good though
We were so good
We could have won multiple tournaments
And we just choked them all.
Like, I don't know.
A lot of times we would come down to just hitting the normal rocket and somebody would miss it.
And we all took turns doing it.
So it kind of came to that conclusion with everyone.
And I talked about this a little bit on the other podcast with Hags, you know.
You'll probably mention a bunch of stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
I definitely will.
It just came down to something's missing, right?
Like, that was the conversation.
Usually, like, I'm the one on the team dropping someone else.
And people don't really talk to that person because, like, I don't know, they feel awkward or whatever.
The whole team came into the call and talked to me about it.
And we just kind of came to that same conclusion.
And I usually am the odd man out on the team for whatever reason,
especially with, you know, Kevin and Braden,
because they're kind of like a duo and bounds like that still up and coming
and getting better.
So they just wanted to go in that different direction again.
It was the same thing that happened in Halo 5.
So it was no hard feelings.
I knew, obviously, I would get on a good team.
I didn't know what one that would be.
Obviously, I'm thankful who's this one.
Yeah, I mean, I was only a free agent for four hours.
Dude, I actually didn't know that.
I didn't know you gotten dropped.
No, yeah, because, well, I don't know if I, can I talk about like everything that happened?
Talk about everything.
If anything's like too much, we can edit out.
No, I mean, people want to make changes, whatever.
I know Optic, obviously, like Joey, Tommy, and then they felt like a change was needed.
You know, they felt like they underperformed and that'll happen if you don't win.
So they were kind of moving on from Brad, I think kind of no matter what.
Originally they wanted to pick up Stellar, you know, he just came off the MVP season.
Totally understandable.
We'll see how much we can put in this.
Totally understandable.
I think they wanted to go that direction,
but then, you know,
nothing ended up happening there.
I think, like, people were supposed to talk,
but, like, SSG kind of just made it clear that, you know,
it's stellar.
Like, that's their best player, whatever.
They want to keep him 100%.
I just end up being the odd man out.
They move on for me.
They go in another direction of an up-and-comer in legend,
which is kind of crazy, you know,
bringing in a player from the EU
because not a lot of, like,
you players get that kind of opportunity.
Fuck now.
So he got, like, the visa, everything.
I think he's over here now.
Who is it?
Crazy.
Legend.
He's like, I think he might be 21.
He's like one of the French players from Quadrant.
That's sick.
I think that might be the first European player that's like.
Yeah, European.
Made it.
Yeah.
And it's crazy.
It's crazy you got dropped from SSG.
You guys were, let's talk about SSG for a little bit.
You stellar.
You go and bound.
You guys were all, you guys were so consistent at not winning.
Yeah.
That's what I said.
That's what I said.
I literally said that.
We're choke artists.
For whatever reason,
we all took turns doing it.
I had that last part trolling,
even though I guess it is kind of true,
but like you guys were fucking good.
Like every time...
Second, second, second.
I mean, that words on you.
We had no idea like who,
like,
if it's Optic versus S S S S S S S S SG,
I don't know who's going to win.
Phase versus S S S S S S S S S S S S.
I don't know who's going to win.
That's the best point for that.
You guys will make that.
I don't even know if you'd call it an upset.
Like everyone would just call
phase optic and SSG,
the top three teams and we don't really know all shit's gonna play out.
Yeah, it's a fist fight.
There's no real upset.
Whoever was there.
Like, how many times did you guys make, or first off,
was that your favorite team ever?
So far?
Well, I mean, I guess in terms of success, yeah, for sure.
You've had funner teams?
Well, I've had like funner teams.
I can imagine that team being business.
Boring.
Not boring.
I imagine that team at all business.
Stellar is.
Yeah, a lot of business.
I mean, behind the scenes, they're pretty fun to hang out.
out with. They're pretty funny guys. But like I said,
I'm the odd man now. We were just on different schedules.
I'd be like first one on, first one off. They would all get on later,
stay on later together. That kind of thing.
So it just kind of ended up being like that.
What do you think made? I feel like you guys had a different,
I mean, maybe I'm tripping. And I'm just looking at it from an old,
old Halo player. But you guys had like a different.
Bad, duction.
Old washed fat.
Everything is. Anyway, you guys were like, I feel like you guys
were different.
Like, it seemed like you guys
played at a faster pace.
You guys had really good, like, team
chemistry.
What, and I,
it looks like muscle memory. We had a great team muscle memory.
Yeah. Yeah. So, like, if we were,
if we were on, we were unbeatable, but if we
weren't, we would just, like, struggle and lose by
millimeters. Like, I feel like I'd look at
the optic roster and the phase roster and be, like,
like, they should win. But you guys
were just so good. But that's not
necessarily true because, like, Stellar,
be the best in the game, I don't know.
Where do you think stellar ranks among top, top what?
Of Halo Infinite?
Yeah.
Oh, top three.
Stellar, renegade.
Lucid?
Yeah.
You think so?
Yeah.
Who's your top five?
And Hill Infinite?
Yeah.
He's gonna make me, myself, I, Pisanguin, and Dead Zone.
Where do you put yourself?
Me?
Yeah.
Oh, top 10, easily.
Top 10?
Yeah, easily.
He's going to make you keep going until you say him.
Where would I fall?
Top 200.
Top four.
No, we'll get back to the old days.
We'll mention me a little bit.
Wait, so who did Renegade leave to go to Phase 4?
Was that SSG?
Well, yeah.
He went to Phase, but it wasn't.
Oh, yeah.
It wasn't with Snake Bay in a World 2 and Frosty yet because they were selling Sentinels.
So he joined Fays and then after that first World season, Phase, like, I don't know if
Sentals were just released or they bought them out or whatever, then that roster joined John on
face.
So we're, I'm trying to remember all the roster changes.
Were you the replacing player for Shotsie?
When Shotsie, I mean in a sense.
When Shotsie left Splice, did you join?
No, because like Halo kind of had like a down period.
We went back to HALMTC.
People made terrible teaming decisions in HAL-3.
Terrible ones just based off of like, I totally forgot about MTCC.
They basically made teams based off of what happened 10 years prior in HALO 3, which is so dumb
because people get better, like, obviously, and whatever.
So that was just dark period.
I basically replaced Shotsie, kind of.
Let's bring Maniac back.
I mean, we could go back to that.
He was good.
No, but, I mean, honestly,
they probably would pick you up in Hale 3 over Shotsie
at that time period. People were making, I'm telling you,
the most rogue decisions.
Was it bad, though?
What?
Because, I don't know if people know this, but after Halo 5,
there was a, what, like two years of Halo 3?
Who years?
Was it really that way?
Maybe.
Well, so they did like, yeah,
They did like K-O-3 for like a year and some and then and then H-O-Reech came out on PC and they did that and then they did H-2A but then they went back to Halo 5.
So we were just like making the round-I remember.
We were just making the rounds.
Yeah.
What the hell?
We went back to HAL-5 during COVID because it was the best one online.
Yeah.
I forgot that like Reach came out and like Summit Summit was playing it.
He was playing like yeah, everyone was playing with like like PJ and Royal 2.
Yeah, he's fun with everyone.
It was crazy time.
And then he just started roasting it.
Yeah.
Did you go to those tournaments during that down time?
Like after Halo 5?
Well, I mean, yeah, I did.
Haley Reach.
I did.
Me and Trippie did, but like, you know, Tommy, like, Lucy,
he just streamed Hale 5 and whatever.
So, like, some people went, some people didn't.
If you liked Hale 3, you played it.
If you didn't, you probably didn't play it.
But yeah, that's why also people were making direct decisions.
What's your favorite HALO?
Mine?
Yeah.
For what?
For what?
Like multiplayer?
What's your favorite HAL-5?
No, like for, dude, if HAL-5 was on PC, that'd be like goaded.
Why?
It's just so good.
Do you think...
It's just got, you have to have a good shot, but you also have to have a really good movement.
Did HALO-5 feel heavy to you?
Oh, 100%.
Especially living in Seattle.
Yeah.
I'm just making sure you...
I'm still talking about how heavy HALO-5 feels.
Dude, I don't know what it was.
It's the variable resolution desync in your game from the monitor.
And also, also it's like a fighting game.
Like, you know how I'm fighting games online?
feel like crap like you have that
big delay right yeah it's because like
they have to like sync everything up so you can
actually see what's happening in real time I'm pretty sure
Halo 5 did the same thing but it's an FPS
so when you're trying to aim at something that just feels horrible
like spring jumping was a mechanic
spring jump timing was based on like the server
you would get so if your server was crap
you would have to jump later and input later
and it was just terrible see I never even
got to that part I'm so I know that
I know that because I'm upset I played
one year of Halo 5 and by the time
I stopped you're so good
you were horrible
I was not horrible
I'll never forget that one
no there's a hilarious series
were you a part of that
where you guys replayed that flag game
like 20 times
yeah that was insane
they replayed a flag game
like 20 times
people kept choking
in the last like 30 seconds
it was and they kept making them
do full replays
the one in Burbank
yeah and then you finally
yeah and I don't even know
what that was for
you and Bradford
I think that was for like top eight or something
that was just to stay in the league
yeah
that was the like
what was it like last
Chance qualifier.
Yeah.
Something like that.
No, because top four,
it was relegation.
Dude,
because top four got to play
in the actual tournament.
It was terrible format.
Top four got to play
and then sixth or
seventh, eighth,
played nine, ten for
relegation for a spot in pro league.
Why is that so bad?
Because,
I mean,
you probably didn't have passion for the game
and being like he's bad.
Well,
or is it just like,
you could just see?
You were on way too many drugs.
Well,
I was on hella Adderall
but doesn't it?
Doesn't it?
No.
No.
It makes people,
No, so like, you know, whatever.
It'll make some people play good.
It makes most people terrible, to be honest.
It makes most people think that they're playing well.
Because they're like focused.
But they're like, I've had teammates coming to me after tournaments,
be like, let's drop this guy.
And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
You played like shit.
Really?
Yeah, dude.
But like their stats will be decent.
No, their stats aren't even decent.
Like, literally changed.
Their stats aren't even decent.
They hit like one four shot and they think they're a good or something.
I don't know.
That or all, like, changes your perspective of like what you, like, I've had teammates,
like that they like just take hella
Adderall and like their shot looks
good but it was like dude
it's almost like you like weren't even
you have to just be a good player you just have to be a good player
yeah back in the day
like I don't even think
an 09 net when I won I don't think I was on Adderall
and like people
where were you in 2009
playing Halo 3 in the living room
where what was your
homeschooled maybe what was your first Halo
uh well if we had to
personal Xbox, so he'll want to inhale too, but we only played like split screen on the CRT.
Damn, HALA was your life? Yeah. Where were you doing before HALA?
Video Games, other video games? What was your, what was your favorite video game?
Super Punchout for the SNES. Super Punch out? Super Punch out? You know like Mike Tyson's punch out on the NES, but then there's super punch out on the SNES. Oh, I've never even heard of that. Wow. I've heard of Mike Tyson's punch out, but I've never heard of the other. I love the one on the SNAS one is definitely better, I think. Wait, how old are you?
26
97
A lot of 97 pros
By the way
Really?
Yeah
Yeah I think
That was like
The year
Where a bunch of people
came up
During Hill 5
Frosty,
Steller
Trippy
Suspector
Commonly
Is this what it is
I forgot
Meatheads
Super Punch out
Maybe
Super punch out
Wait so is this
like the first
Game
in your memories
That you remember
Growing up
And like
Being addicted to
I guess one of you
for sure what was another one besides this i mean like you know game boy games like
Pokemon and all that
uh legend Zelda 64 you just bought a Pokemon you just bought
i saw that you posted receipts of buying like an old
game boy no i or it was like me thinking about it
oh you don't know you got a game boy now is like 120 bucks
well Pokemon red's like 120 bucks i'm like i'm gonna spend
260 dollars total plus shipping fucking and probably play this once and never play this once and
never played again.
Nah,
the 3DS,
when they released on that,
that was God tier,
but I don't even think
they sell it on there anymore.
So 3DS?
Yeah,
3DS.
Dude,
I have a,
uh,
uh,
uh,
uh,
wait.
Well,
I don't know.
I have this like handheld
that plays all,
um,
Game Boy games.
Is that thing legit?
Like with the actual cartridge?
Yeah,
with the cartridge.
Is it the analog pocket?
Analog pocket.
Hell yeah.
I have an analog pocket.
Jesus.
They're so cool.
Dude,
they're sick.
No,
they're so cool.
Look up analog pocket.
It's like the Apple
Of Game Boy
What and it just has like every game on it
No you can just play well you it's you can put it on an SD card and put it in the side of the
You can emulate it can be an emulator but it also actually plays the yeah I mean real cartridges
Go down to the right to right right right right right right right right well one with the black and the white top up left left there there no left there
That looks like doesn't it look like a yeah no it does I swear I saw something on the
dot shop that
has just like every
game they sell those too
I get that thing that doesn't
is that real I don't know
there's emulated games yeah it's just an emulator
I mean it's the same thing if you plug an SD card into that
but without the ability to play the real game so it's not the
real game you're playing you're
well on this one you can play the real game if you have it
that's what makes this one different
this one you can actually put the cartridge
the one that you're talking about
you just amulator yeah it's just an
emulator yeah it's just like
Damn, you've been a gamer your whole life, huh?
Oh, yeah.
At this point, at this point, who hasn't, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, who hasn't?
If you're 25 or under, for sure.
Bro, imagine being bored now and being able to play, like...
Holy shit, it's 49.
All the people play now is like phone games.
Are they fucked?
Yeah.
Have you ever seen the kids try to beat the first level of Super Mario Bros?
It's sad.
What?
It's really sad.
Really?
That's a great idea.
There's like a video of, like, kids trying to beat the first level of Super Mario Bros.
On the NES and they can't beat it.
that's just like their mind is just like the game plays itself to a different it's just like tap tap tap tap tap
yeah but then if they get on fortnight they're just fucking some of them are correct of the app they play
fortnight yeah but like games nowadays like especially like Pokemon games i think dude they're so
easy in comparison to like there's no adversity in them yeah yeah like i played the new
Pokemon whenever it came out
and I got a far fetch and I learned brick break
and I one shot everything.
Dude, I tried playing some of those for the Switch.
It was just so weeny hut Jr.
Yeah.
They were so free.
If you, if you, if you destroy
your guy that you're fighting,
all of your Pokemon level up.
I know.
All of the Pokemon.
They don't know what it was.
I hate that.
I hate that.
I hate that.
Have y'all played power at all?
I haven't played Powell World.
Nah.
They just like level up together.
They level up together.
Yeah, I hate that.
And fuck.
something I was at least make the grind real right at least make me have to grind for it
I was in the back I was in the back pew at church like this there's just grind dude they're
settings on power world to where you can set it like a 10 times multiplier to level up like there's
so many like you can just cheat yeah yeah literally like there's cheats in the fucking menu
and I remember back in the day just dying not having enough potions having to run it back
against Brock.
Yeah.
You know,
run it back against Brock?
Hold on.
Hold on.
This guy definitely picked Charmander.
But you know what?
I like,
I like picking like regularized Pokemon
and just like taking them with me
through the whole game.
Dude,
have you ever heard of like a,
yeah.
Like just a...
Have you ever heard of a NuzzLock?
Do you know what a NuzzLock?
Oh, I love NuzLock.
What is that?
So a NuzzLock is when you grab your
Pokemon,
you have your Pokemon
and I mean,
there's different ways to play it,
but basically if your Pokemon feints,
you have to release them
into the wild.
It does.
dies. It dies. Like you can't use him again. So like what makes it really hard? It like makes it
game harder. You add that to like Pokemon Red? Yeah. So you can nuzzle like any Pokemon game.
How do you what is it? Like what do you like plug your thing in and download a program? No,
no, no, no. You just. It's a set of rules. It's just a rule set. So like if you if if if you're playing and you
pick Charmander and you catch a Pidgey, if your Pidgey dies against Brock, then whenever you get
to the PC, you have to release Pidgey to the wild. You don't get to use Pige anywhere?
What the fuck?
There's a lot of rules generally. There's a lot of different rules, but that's the, I would have
so many Pokemon die. You can catch one Pokemon per row, first encounter.
There's a, there's a bunch of different, like, rules that you can implement, but that's like
the base, the, it's basically like hardcore Pokemon. And they do have modded versions of the game to
make it way harder and then you follow those rules
and it actually gets kind of crazy. I did play some
modded version of Pokemon
in like 2020.
Pokemon MMO. I think that
was it. I remember playing.
And I think I bought like a
Team Rocket outfit.
I forget what like Pokemon
World it was replicating.
But that shit was kind of fun.
And I don't know if like
you said earlier I had um
I was about to buy Pokemon Red
but I just didn't know if I would get it.
And then go to play and just like, like I buy it for the nostalgia.
But then when I actually play it, if I'd just be bored as shit.
See, it's, Pokemon Red is weird.
Red, blue, yellow.
They're weird because they're so good.
They're so ahead of their time.
But when you go back and play it, it does sometimes feel like it's crawl.
Like, time is crawling.
Yeah, you're crawling.
That's the one you have to actually grind.
There's no running shoes.
And you have to get a bicycle.
so like your little character is like walking everywhere yeah cruising i love gen two big gen two
two yeah yeah two had running shoes right i think yeah also had the bicycle what is that
i just love gen two though purple jane two Pokemon silver and gold silver golden crystal uh purple
i don't think i think i've made a purple i think i think that's about when i love gold gold did y'all keep
going after that it's like uh i went up to gen five for alligator and all
A feralligator.
Love for alligator, the goat.
Yeah.
You kept grinding through Gen 5.
Yeah.
So, like, Gen 5 was the last.
What are the colors?
Like, it's red, blue, blue, or...
Oh, you want to...
Red, blue, yellow, green.
Then silver, gold.
Crystal.
Then it goes crystal.
Ruby, Sapphire, emerald.
Diamond pearl platinum.
Did you get all in these?
White black.
White black.
I don't know about after that.
I know that white black too.
White black.
And then there's X, X, Y,
X Y. And then there's...
Did you guys? As well, Hitch?
I only went up to five.
I've only played, I've only played like four of them.
But I've played Pokemon Yellow like six times.
Like I've finished the game like 10 times.
Yeah.
It's like that one and then Silver, Soul Silver.
Oh, those were the remakes.
The remakes of silver and gold are fucking incredible.
They're so expensive.
What's the best Pokemon?
The best Pokemon game?
I would say Soul Silver.
Yeah.
I love that.
Not red or blue
Wow
I love gen 2 and the remakes came out in gen 4
So like soul silver and heart gold are just crack
Dude soul silver and heart gold are the best ones
If you ever play one ever even
You should play those
I need to sign them
If you can find them
If you can find out of you got to have I told you this
I don't think of ever play toilet and shit
No just like in bed for six hours
You've been playing six hours
Class Royale for six hours
Why don't you stream it?
I'm like playing on my phone
I don't really know how to do that.
Oh, it's really?
Have you ever played clash for that?
No.
You've played in bed for six hours.
Who do you play with?
Every day.
Every day?
Who do you play with?
Random?
Solo Q?
Solo.
That's my fucking life now.
There's solo Q.
We need this guy back in the office.
Get this guy back in the office.
I play, I need something.
What do you do besides Halo Infinite?
Yeah, people always ask me that.
I mean, do you play code names?
I don't know what that is.
What's a day in the life?
Right now?
Besides, that's not due to.
day let's just do just a regular scrim day I mean the last like well so like last
season that was different like when I lived here so like my my fiance still lives in
Seattle which sucks ass long distance sucks ass so like I was just super depressed I wouldn't do
anything last year but like this this year I'm trying to like change that so that's part of the
game with tag change too right like just a reminder for me to get better every day I've lost like 30
pounds since worlds I I probably wake up I try to go to the gym I go to the gym with trippy
every day because he lifts two doors down
for me so we do that I get on in gym or we'll go to LA fitness or the apartment gym
depending on like time constraint or whatever yeah we'll go to the gym shower get on try to
warm up for like an hour scrim maybe watch some of that and then honestly just hang out with
with Lydia the rest of the night and then repeat how long have you lived here uh so I moved here
during last season because playing from Seattle is fucking horrible definitely
eight ping versus professionals is unplayable so back in April of last year
I moved here and I just asked I asked Joey where he lived because Joey is one of my best friends in Halo
You know a lot of people a lot of times you have your team you don't talk to anyone Joey's like one of the few people I would kind of talk to
So I just did that and I moved here and it was definitely a lot better I know a stellar moved here too and then immediately kind of just turn around and went home
Yeah, I think you still has an apartment
Stellar moved in with flames sword yeah and like I would I would see them occasionally
Stellar is all it's like a he's very quiet and kind of seems like a mama's boy a little bit a little bit
Not trying to say that negative.
He just likes his routine.
I think that's part of his routine.
He loves his dogs.
His dogs were at home too.
Yeah, he moved here.
I totally get it.
Fucking, I think I went to the,
I think I worked out with him like one time.
We saw you running down the trail
and you completely missed us.
Me and Joey.
Really?
Yeah.
This guy was locked in on the run.
Yeah.
I probably was.
He said, Nick?
He just.
Did I look cool running?
I mean, cooler than I would look running for sure.
Yeah.
Did I look like a ass?
Yeah?
Yeah?
It's so funny.
I'll give you the max right now.
Huh?
How do I look?
I'll give you a max contract right now.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I'm, uh,
that's just so,
that's just a funny thing to say.
Wait, so you changed,
let's,
let's get into this.
You changed your gamer tag
from penguin to Dead Zone
because you,
did you look at it?
I also hate Penguin as a gamer tag.
It's a weenie HUD Jr.
Stennis.
Like a little kid in gamers.
You know many people I know
that were named Penguin.
That's what makes it cool
I think everyone disagrees with you
Actually they don't I got surprisingly a lot of positive feedback
Well I mean what I they're lying
I mean my dad told me straight up like I hate it
I respect that but no other people
I told me they actually like it
I was I don't know I was always a penguin fan
Why did you um
Why did you make that change
And I know you said a little bit
You changed it because
That other game of tagger
is also cursed.
Okay.
Outside of,
not even making...
Said you were depressed.
Just cursed, yeah.
Like, did you look at this, like a fresh...
This is the new me?
In a sense, yeah.
Just like, yeah.
I mean, it's like just something I can change, right?
You change that.
Now you're dead now you're...
I'm not gonna change my name.
So, now you hit the gym.
Now you drop, you lost how much?
Like, they're about 30 pounds.
Damn.
Are you, like, eating clean?
Way cleaner.
I mean, I obviously, like,
I'll have something.
things here and there. Like I still drink energy drinks. I'll have a soda occasionally. Do you get depressed
living this gaming life? What? I don't know. He thinks it's funny. He thinks mental health is funny.
No, I don't. I mean, at times I definitely did, like, for sure. I mean, your schedule is kind of whack.
Living in Seattle was the worst because, like, there's never any sun. There's no sun. Like, you can't
even go outside. Seattle seems depressing. Why do you live there? I mean, that's just where I was born and raised.
Okay. Yeah. I love it, like, when it's nice out. If it, if it's a warm, something, you
day, which is like twice a year, Seattle's
the best place ever. If it's not, it's kind
of terrible 90% of the time. I was like, I could
live here. You probably went on
that one or two days. That's crazy. It was just a great
day. And the second time I went, I was like,
this is terrible. Yeah, never mind.
It was during worlds.
Dude, it was so cold. Oh, was the second worlds?
Or first? The worlds that are guys
won. The first one. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's so rainy. The first one wasn't even as bad, dude.
The second one, oh my God. The homeless problem was really
bad in Seattle. The second one,
they had like a homeless person
street market
and I had to walk through it
to get to target
that's a fucking zombie land
it's like an apocalypse
I've never yeah
it's like
it is it really is
Alexis was telling me
she was trying to walk
she went there
for like a job
she was trying to walk
and that people were doing the
lean over
10 to 15 leaders
yeah
bro I've seen homeless people
than every city
but Seattle's
turned into
Seattle's Diffy dude
is this like a just recent thing
COVID hit they defunded the police
now they don't have enough people to police a homeless
and they just kind of let them do whatever they want
Is that not dangerous?
I feel like Seattle is such a like
respected known city
I mean is it not
Not anymore
Every time someone mentioned Seattle they're like
Oh Seattle's so beautiful
Seattle was like
Pre-2020
Now I'm like
Seattle fucking sucks
It sucks.
Seattle is like one of the hubs
where like all of the shit
like went down in 2020
whenever the world went crazy.
Yeah, a bunch of shit went down
the drug problem was off the charts.
All the protests, riots,
and homelessness and all that.
Yeah, we're third.
Good God.
Third and we have one of the biggest drug problems.
Seattle is third in the U.S. for homeless population.
Jesus.
What is first?
New York has 76,000 almost.
Shout out to New York City, bro.
Jesus.
But it's first at like seven times the amount.
That's crazy.
The drop-up on that is crazy.
L.A. too.
L.A.
But it's crazy.
I mean, New York, I get it.
L.A. I get it.
And then Seattle, third.
That's like, I just don't look at Seattle like that.
Did you, you didn't grow up like in the city.
No.
You grew up like how far outside of Seattle?
Like 30 minutes.
But that's, I mean, that's all it takes, really.
You drive 15 minutes or like 20 minutes to Bellevue.
Bell v.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Was it a...
What's there to do in Seattle?
Is there a certain Seattle's stuff you did growing up?
Do you fish and shit?
Are you just game?
It was a shitty weather so you stay inside.
Yeah, pretty much.
I was just a gamer.
We were going vacation.
I'd bring my CRT with me.
That's...
I mean, same.
I did that too.
Yeah, I'd take one shower of the minivan, put the CRT in.
So it starts with...
I'd fly to Arizona with my fucking Xbox 360.
So are you a Seahawks fan?
By birth.
I'm not really a big football fan, but yeah.
I mean, I'm a Seahawks.
Do you play any sports growing out?
Basketball.
A lot of basketball?
Hell yeah.
Until when.
Seattle.
Sophomore here in high school?
Founders.
That's when I just started playing Halo.
Yeah.
Who's the basketball team?
Supersonics.
Rest and peace.
What are they now?
Do they have a team?
They were the Oklahoma City Thunder.
They were like, we're not going to move the team.
Bought the team, moved the team.
So Seattle doesn't have a basketball team.
They want one really bad, yeah.
Were you good at basketball?
Well, I mean, I was...
Did you think you could go to college for it?
No, but my coach hated me because, like, yes,
yes, I was good at basketball, but I was super lazy and, like, fat, like, pretty fat.
So, like, I would just not try and practice.
Then we had scrimmage, and he's like, now you can, like, run all of a sudden,
like, what the hell is going on here?
I remember freshman year we had, like, a free throw shooting, like, fundraising,
thing. Like, people would pledge an amount
per free throw you made out of 100. I think
I lost to a senior. And I was a freshman.
I made, like, 88. I think he made like
91. Out of 100?
Yeah. What the fuck? We would play it, like, you know,
bump or whatever. People,
people can't shoot free throw, so they just, like, throw the ball
at the backboard as hard as they can. I would just shoot the free throw
and make it. Yeah. Just to get people out.
Damn. 88 out of
100? I don't think I was
a free throw. I was a shit shooter, though.
Something about it. I had no range. I had a mid-range game.
like no other but three point yeah no I couldn't shoot a three pointer yeah I don't know I was not
good at shooting I was now when I try to shoot a three I'm like dude did they change the basket
like they changed this sport did they make it higher dude I feel like I am like throwing the ball
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membership at LA Fitness and like sometimes at the end my girl like go stretch or do abs or
something and I'll go shoot around it feels it's like embarrassing yeah bad you are yeah it's
like it's so crazy
I did that recently too.
Definitely did not maintain that skill.
But then I think it's been 17 years since I played.
That's a minute.
Time is.
No, I fucking love basketball.
That's like the one sport I'll watch some of the regular season games.
Otherwise, I really only watch.
Yeah, I watch LeBron.
LeBron.
That's it.
Just LeBron.
Just LeBron.
He checks out.
You just turn it away from the TV.
Fuck, man.
Time is past.
Does it feel like time's passing?
Do you ever think to yourself like, what the fuck?
Like a fucking snail's base.
I mean, sometimes.
At a snail's pace?
Yes, dude.
Life is going fast enough for you.
He's competing.
Yeah, I can now.
Trying to relate.
It's my fault.
It's once the retirement happens.
That's when you're like, wait.
It's been six years since I've retired.
And I've done nothing.
I've like kind of done stuff.
We're all just hanging out on this floating space.
Rock. We really are. It's just a rock. It's a cold, dense rock that has lava in the middle,
floating through nothing. Welcome. An infinite amount of nothingness.
An infinite amount. An infinite amount. Yeah, whatever the fuck infinite means.
Halo.
Infinite no halo. What would you be doing?
What would you be doing? Did you go to college? No. Did you go to college? No. Did you
graduate?
High school, yeah.
What would you be doing if you didn't?
Like, did you have a roadmap of where your life was going to go or things in your head you wanted to be?
If, like, because I knew I was really good at Halo, but I didn't really see, like, this is going to be my job.
I'll eventually join Optic.
And, like, I had in my head, like, I'm going to be, like, a nutritionist or maybe a personal trainer,
psychiatrist, or, like, what?
Did you have any of those dreams outside of Poet?
Halo player? I mean, I always assumed I would go to college, but then, you know, I mean, obviously
you like played in a different era, right? It wasn't as feasible to go pro and just make it
your living forever. Right. Fuck no. Now with the way Eastports has gone, especially like,
as I'm kind of almost getting out of high school, they're pumping a ton more money into it.
East sports are kind of blown up a little bit. I go pro still in high school like senior year.
So I mean, that kind of just became the thing. If not, I don't think I had like a real
job or goal or whatever
but just go to go to college
become something. I was always good at math so maybe like an
accountant some of numbers, something like that
but yeah.
I was always the C student
that got a 98 on the test.
Can't do homework,
but
I could see that.
Yeah, I was the
maybe D student. I count it you have to do your homework.
Whatever failing was, I was right
above that. And then maybe one class
I fail. Yeah, I failed
math one year and they put me in summer school and uh summer school was kind of fun well so like my summer
school they only had us come in like twice we just had to do the lessons ourselves or whatever
i remember i did no homework the whole summer i'm like well i have to do this three days before i did
like 70 math lessons it's like 2100 math problems in like three days i get there and she looks at it all
and she's like what were you supposed to be doing i told her algebra three she's like i just had to do all
of pre-cal i'm like what the what the fuck is this so i skipped algebra three and
pre-cow in one summer like in three days.
So I was that guy.
Just horrible student.
You're one of those little genius fucks.
I'm just a, well, I'm a really good
short-term memory little shit, yeah.
How does that affect your halo?
I don't know.
What kind of halo player do you think you are?
Like a smart overall
a halo player?
Yeah, but there's like...
I'm a pure halo player.
Who's the goat? You know what I?
Or two. Ola.
Maybe time for second.
Who's third?
Lethal?
Aniac.
Oh.
I'm not.
I don't even top 50, 100.
I don't even.
200.
I don't even joke about fucking being up there.
It is kind of,
there was a huge discussion,
ogre two or lethal as the goat.
But you say ogre too.
Listen, man.
What about?
I'm going to play devil's advocate.
Obviously you grew up in Halo for a long time.
I'm sure like as a young end you were.
a fan of some of these guys.
Ogre, too, I looked it up once.
And me, Ed, I'm not even going to
have you try to calculate this.
But, uh,
I think by 2007,
he had like 33 wins.
How much of that?
In that moment?
How much of that do we count, though?
Because after that, he's our...
After that, he went like...
Do we can sit here and discount anything we want?
I mean, we count
it as wins.
Winning in 2006 was fucking hard.
You're playing against carbon.
Damn near impossible to win it.
That's what I'm saying.
Too many good players.
But I look at like
the amount of time lethal
dominated and was staying in the top two
and winning events
versus like the best of the best
of gamers there ever was.
In HALO.
If Tuger didn't beat
T.J. a few times,
I could understand it.
The thing about Tugur.
But didn't he beat T.J?
Like, in, like, X games and shit?
Probably. I don't really remember.
I think him and Snipedown, right?
Hemming and Snipe-down beat T.J.
I don't know.
Am I crazy?
I don't think he will, like, Halo 5.
Am I crazy? Who won the X games?
When, like, T.J.
It was like,
Roy Snip-Dencommonly.
Oh, okay.
Roy Luntzs snipe down in commonly.
Okay.
Okay, I thought he won a few times in Halo 5.
I don't, just, that's like, that was the, that was like, the Halo competition.
I don't, I think he went to one regionals and got top 16.
Oh, I thought he won a Halo 5 event.
No, he didn't win a Halo 5 event.
The Halo 5 competition from 2005 or 2004 to like 2007 was just like so minimal.
I think they even have some 2003 wins.
Count it.
So it's like, are we counting?
Yes, we're counting.
it.
Bill Russell's the goat.
So that's what I'm saying, but in
other sports, it doesn't
work that way.
Because I think, I look at Oger 2, like, he is the
Bill Russell.
But as far, like,
towards later in his,
and Tom is my guy.
Tom is my guy.
Tom is my guy. He'll pop in my chat
every now and then.
But like, if Olo is still planning, I'd have Ola.
See, I can see that
because when Ola was, Ola was that
guy. Ola was that guy.
He was that guy.
you didn't want to play against him.
He was annoying as fuck to play against.
He was a god.
Randomly dominate.
Anyone who picks him up gets better.
And it just,
I look at Ogre too like that was not the,
Ogre two in his last like few years of playing.
Like he was always the worst on the team.
It's not that he played bad,
but he was like the worst on the team.
His teammates were fucking gods.
And so like he got,
man,
I feel bad because I feel like,
I feel like I'm just shitting on everyone.
Just making everyone so good.
And Tuger, he is.
it's so weird he's like the michael jordan but he's also like the bill russell
bill jordan and then i think lethal is more so like a michael jordan look man if walsh
he said he's the goat he's the goat i mean but if all she says all the old heads are
gonna say if if postola comes back right now i'll put him at the goat right now then he'll be
michael jordan because he retired i think ol him might be like cobi brine michael jordan is
never going to say that LeBron, or
fucking
I think Ola is Oger 2's number one.
Who?
Ola is Ola is O'Gert2's number one,
I think, all right, you think he was?
Really? Yeah, probably.
It was a fucking wizard.
Who was your...
The wizard. Who was your...
Also, I'm sorry, Tom.
I'm just... I really am
trying to critically think, you know, it's hard for me,
but I'm trying to just... I guess we've got a discount him now
because every time I get on Twitch, his stream is like,
what is it? League of Legends.
No, no, he's fun.
He's playing Halo, he's like, he's playing Halo Infinite, but it's something about being a coal miner, being a plumber.
Being a plumber.
He's like 37 year old plumber.
Bro, it's crazy.
He's 37.
How old is Walsh.
He's going to be turned.
I think Walshys like 39.
It's got to be 40.
Oh my God.
Who was, um, who were some of your, when did you get into this scene as far as like watching?
I mean, HAL-3.
I went back and watched a lot of the HAL-2 stuff.
after getting into it for Hail 3.
Like the shit that was on like ESPN.
Well, I don't know if Hail 3 was.
Hale 2 was for sure.
Halo 2, yeah.
But no, I got really into it during Hale 3.
Who were some of your favorite players?
In order?
Stola was my favorite lunchbox, close second.
Why lunch?
And not Roy.
Because I'm a Halo player.
You understand it?
Yeah.
Like, it's like doing the dirty work and getting none of the credit.
I'll be the guy that gives that it.
I'll be the guy that.
gives lunchbox credit okay yeah oh yeah wait who else and then a neighbor because he's
my local and he had like a really nice night what do you the one who grabbed the
eyeball before it fell off yeah that against you no who's that against that was against
bludge APG tooxic and death you gotta jump off with that man that's iconic that's iconic
and then you sure bravo you should bravo you should bravo you should bravo you should
bravo you should bravo yeah that that was insane we made that up what it that clip is
Would you ever team with someone that plays like neighbor?
I did team with neighbor.
How was that?
Terrible.
Mason, you suck.
Bro.
Mason, you suck ass.
He has the weirdest.
You're the worst teammate.
He has the weirdest play style, like, of all the time.
Wait, why?
What's his play style?
Blank.
Dude, no.
You want me tell you about one of his flanks?
Stay alive and find the sniper.
Yeah.
Now, I'll never forget when I tune with him.
This is obviously like 10 years past HAL3 or seven or eight years past HAL3.
This is during MCC.
So yeah, Passus Prime, whatever.
I'll just never forget.
I'm like, they're gonna pull our flag.
It's Narrows.
He's our flagbier.
So flag's right here.
He's our flagbyr right here.
I'm like, they're gonna pull our flags.
He just has to come right here
and start shooting the guy.
When he turns around, goes to our backstage,
runs to our fucking cannon, starts pushing up.
He's the last one alive.
Starts pushing up Canada to snipe.
And then flags all the way at their snipe all of a sudden.
I'm just like, what the fuck?
What the fuck?
Was that?
Dude, neighbor eyes?
That was the most insane flank I've ever seen.
They're pulling our flag.
they capped our flag you got our snipe nice okay so maybe that was your
worst teammate of all time i don't know if he was my worst teammate of all time but that was just
hilarious i team with neighbor as well and like he was like some of the shit i'd see him do
online he had some crazy shots he would he would hit some crazy shots but i remember it was me neighbor
cloud and clutch that's a squad and i think we got like top fucking 12 or something why you guys are
And neighbor just like,
neighbor just like,
I think neighbor was like,
I think neighbor was like chasing girls
and like he just always late to practice.
Can we bring the intro to the neighbor hysteria
montage up?
Somebody said chasing girls.
Can we bring that intro up?
Wait, can we see the neighbor and hysteria?
Duotage introage.
Oh, is that where there with the Dr. Pepper girls?
That's where there was.
That was straight, that was straight ripping.
Straight ripin was fucking the Dr.
Pepper. This is like as a young in
I'm like dude straight ripin's fucking the doctor
Pepper chicks.
We got a neighbor and hysteria like
fucking the chicks at the bars.
They're the fucking halo
guys.
The neighbor was an interesting.
Is this the cringy-ass intro? There's like a cringe
intro. I mean it's got to be this one right?
I think it might be. It's got
to be. Like hysteria
driving a
what card it like a Camaro or something
and had like a girl in
of this car. Is that what this is?
Man, this is fucking art.
Dude, no. This is the cringiest
shit I've ever seen. He's learned.
Pro gamer, gamer, glasses.
It's definitely the way you look at pro gamer.
Yeah, dude, what is this shit?
What is this shit?
That's so hard.
No, dude. This is so hard.
This is why neighbor was the fucking man.
He's tossing and turdies.
You like, I'm going on by snipe down?
Like, what's going on here?
By T squared.
Oh, it's so good.
Pain.
Dude, stop.
Hysterium.
What's he having a fucking nightmare about?
I don't know.
Ninja Nenegian.
Me pulling host over in the Halo 2.
That's actually so good.
No, he's playing.
They're just having cool.
Dude, what a godlike intro.
See, I love this shit.
It's just them having nightmares about
straight ripping.
Like, what the fuck?
No, I'm sorry.
That's a bad intro.
This is your duotage.
Yeah.
This is your dual tosh,
and you're just like hyping the fuck
out of these other.
teams. No, that's, that goes hard.
You're just getting screamed out by T-squared. Girl in the
bed with a neighbor jersey on? Fire.
No, I'm sorry, this is crudges of fuck.
So fire. I love this shit.
Dude.
Meathead, is there anything better than a girl in the bed with a meathead jersey on?
What the fuck?
That intro is fucking insane.
Do they, do people make, might keep you on up.
No, people don't, no.
People.
Did they make montages for like any game?
No, the soul of gaming has been ripped apart.
Been lost.
Uh,
I heard a little bit of sound.
Just pause it.
It's fine.
We're good.
But I think there's a moment where like Kisterio like pulls up in a.
Camaro.
That's so cringe.
I'm sorry.
I think his girl gets out.
She's like sitting on the hood.
First five minutes of a minx of a montage are just this shit.
There's,
dude.
Oh yeah.
It's still going.
So that five minutes of clips at the end, that's hilarious.
Five minutes.
No,
no,
oh,
oh,
it's so good.
Oh,
oh my God.
746.
Brush your teeth.
Yeah
Stop
He's running
Running through the water
Dude
Dude, I can't
I can't keep watching this
Neighbor was kind of jacked at one point
I feel like he's
Always kind of has been in shape
Dude
This is literally a short film
Oh
See this is so bad
This is horrible
Dude I forgot about all that
This is the cringiest montage
I've ever fucking
Now they sit down to play. Now it's time to play.
Now it's time to game.
This was back in the day in the life.
This was really back in the day where we were like, you had to prove that you weren't a nerd though.
So that's why they did that.
It was like a cool, like I remember telling my friends like, you know, I'm not going to be on.
I'm playing like basketball in my neighborhood.
And it was like cool.
Like I was like cool for like not coming home and playing immediately.
Like I had to do some real shit.
I didn't know fucking nerd.
I feel like that's a situation where you.
you thought you were cool but they were like okay nick's faking like he's playing basketball no i'm
telling you like you had there was a certain i'm dead bro that was insane to watch there was a certain
like cool like to be like to be really good but like you're cool but like you're chilling
yeah like you're really good at the game but trust me i have a fucking like i like i know i'm probably
gonna retire no one said that nick i'm probably going to retire i don't even i'm sorry i'm just
What were we talking about?
I don't even remember.
Something about your career, Halo 5, Halo.
We were talking about the ghost.
When did you start playing?
Yeah, when did you start playing competitively?
Were you involved in Halo 2?
No.
Like I said, Halo 1 and Hale 2 only split screen.
I wanted to go to my first tournaments in like HALA 4, obviously.
I was really young.
Yeah, I mean, I just loved Halo.
I didn't care.
but I went to my first tournament H2A
I think it was 2015
PGL Indy maybe
yeah 2015
PGL Indianapolis
Me floppy Dodge Bullets and Covent
Shout out to those guys
Those guys are legends
I don't know any of those guys
I mean I talked to him the other day
Literally he would sit like this
While we were playing at a tournament
Yeah
We were on the main stage and he had to sit on the end
And then he asked for a second chair
And he's just like
No way
Because he played in his lazy boy
we practice he's in his lazy boy and what did y'all place
top 24
there's only 32 teams though
although we did play we did play we had to play uh e g
which was lunchbox roy snipe down and and lethal
round two when did you realize you were fucking good
before that like you knew you were good but like you were still team with
well there's nothing like people didn't really compete h2a was completely broken
you had to quit your build every game
Was it really annoying?
It was so annoying.
Like you couldn't get matchmaking games.
It was broken.
It was a really bad launch.
Quit the build.
Really, really bad launch.
I forgot about that.
I forgot to be even saying quit the build.
I got Ninja Top 4.
What was your...
I got Ninja Top 4.
Wait, scroll down.
Let me see his first.
It doesn't have it.
Yeah, it doesn't have it.
EGL 8.
What?
That's not me.
I didn't go to a floppy dodge bullet.
You never went to an EGL.
Someone.
leave that.
It says
PGL.
See, that's what I'm saying.
There's like another penguin competing,
you don't know pinchy Brumbot
Dren and Dream.
No.
Oh,
I didn't go to a vent in 2014.
It says 2012.
I didn't go to event 2012.
What the fuck?
Nah,
that's not right.
That's what I'm saying
there's another penguin.
It seems like you catapult.
Penguin floppy, dodge bullets,
co-event.
And then you get to the contra,
rain.
Shout out to rain.
He retired without saying a word.
He just dipped?
I talked to him a little bit.
He said he could have got on a team,
but he just like,
he's only played 500 matchmaking games in like two years.
He's kind of lost passion.
Has anyone talked to Ola?
Go to Taylor player, though.
Has anyone talked to Ola?
Dude, everyone's tried.
Very few people have talked to him.
I love Justin.
I've said this on a stream.
Like, Ola was never someone you talked to
unless it's at an event or like a
T-O-N or like what I always say T-O-N like everyone knows what it is but it was this house where all the top
pros or all the top Halo teams would go together in practice like you would see him at an event
or there he's not in a discord call he's not in a Skype call you're not playing him in matchmaking
like he's never he's never been a tweeter so like he's very in person since retired but
but then you would think in person he's
probably quiet in reserve, but he's like not.
He's like, he's a part of every conversation.
He's like the star of the conversation.
Like you could be the most random person
if you walk up to him at the right moment,
he'll talk to you for 30, 40 minutes.
And it's so weird because it's like,
on line personality is the complete opposite
to where like he just fucking disappears.
You never team with them, did you?
Almost.
Wait, scroll down a little bit of them.
I almost teamed with a trippy lucid and all that before the game came out.
I want to see when your team started
getting good.
What was your first, do you remember your first team
where you were like, okay, this could be...
It was me, Swift Kill a Common Rain.
Well, the first team of this could be like,
that would be me, Ray and Sterler and Eco.
Is Victory X still playing?
Same thing as Rain.
Shout out to Victory X.
He has still yet to announce his retirement.
It's been...
Victory X?
It's been six years now.
Shout out to Cam.
We're not that bad.
Love that guy.
Yeah, Victory X was funny.
We would do good.
We're not that bad.
What were you place?
Dude, I love Victory X
because he would never should talk.
You'd just say like, get owned.
Just old school as fuck.
Yeah.
Get owned.
Isn't he the longest
the longest running pro?
He was definitely one.
He might be.
He was one of.
He could have kept gone.
He was still good.
I think he played longer than needed.
No passion.
Unless I like heard wrong.
But I thought he played.
He put a long time.
I thought he played way longer.
Ninja Victor.
Ninja and Victory.
We're playing in 2016.
Yeah, I got him top four.
I got him top four.
That's my team with Kim.
What was it like was was Ninja already on his grind?
No, no, no.
I started team with Ninja when he really got on that grind.
Like 820-1.
Yeah, people would give him so much crap.
But like, dude, there would be days where he wouldn't play it and he'd play him.
I had noticed no difference.
I think I was, I think I was his only proponent of guys I don't give a shit.
Like he can play as much of that as he wants as long as he keeps playing fine with me.
So, do you like Ninja as a teammate?
I mean, yeah.
I like Tyler.
I didn't want to start a drama or anything.
No, no.
Didn't want to get a clickbait title or no.
The funniest story we did that.
I think if anything at that moment,
I could have been a better team to everyone else around me.
I feel like that's my entire career.
I was such a whiny fucking baby.
I mean, I wasn't even whiny.
I should have been more whiny.
What was your detriment?
Not anymore.
I don't fucking know. I don't have a good vocab.
Detrim.
What could you have been better as a teammate?
Voicing opinions, for sure.
What do you say?
Voicing opinions and telling people how to play.
Telling people how to play more.
Yeah, for sure. So you just...
Well, because, like, you know, you're young, whatever you respect.
It's like respecting your elder type day.
Like, they've been doing it for years, so you kind of...
Yeah.
You kind of, like, give them, like, the right away, whatever.
Maybe I shouldn't have given people the right away as much.
Could have been more present.
Should have watched more film.
etc
dude
people weren't watching
vods back then
what hail they were
we've had
we've had theaters
and say oh three
people would go to theater
and watch
yeah like bro you would lose
fucking team
within the clutch
we would lose a game
and it's like all right
let's all go to theater
oh yeah
theaters and say oh three man
like dude it happened man
like obviously
you're in some like
it's good to find
it's good to find out
the nuance of that
yeah no
it definitely is good
in the clutch was a he was a good teammate
he was like the
got to west it was so fucking weird
so weird how
you gotta jump off with that man
like I remember we dropped
it was me demon
Soviet do you remember
a guy named Soviet yeah I remember Soviet
me demon Soviet and cloud
and Soviet at the time was like known as like
one of the best like slayers
like people just thought he was like
the one of the most individually skilled
players is what they would call it
Must do what the game says.
And then we drop him and pick up clutch.
People don't think is individually skilled.
And we just like we get like top.
I think we got fifth and then ended up winning the event.
It's so crazy how it like.
Just be a good teammate.
Yeah.
Just being a good teammate.
Which I want to ask.
And when I watch everyone's POV in Halo Infinite,
I want to ask what it was like teaming with Eco.
Because I feel like he's like,
there's something special about him.
because when I watch his screen,
he is not cracked at all.
Like he seems...
You don't have to be cracked.
You don't have to be.
And I feel like he's mastered,
not being cracked,
but still playing Halo Infinite,
how it should be.
Like, I look at you,
and I'm like,
Penguin's fucking cracked.
He's flying.
He's not missing.
He's, like, in their face.
He's doing a flank here.
Just blah, blah, blah.
Like, I would rank you.
I would say you are better than Eco.
But I feel like other people in the scene that really know Eco would maybe disagree.
Like he just, what about Eco made?
Because I feel like he's just, I wouldn't say slow.
Would you consider him a slow player?
I think most people would.
It just depends who you're teaming with, really.
Like when you're teaming with, you know, so I think that's part of the reason why they picked up legend or whatever
and maybe replace me or whatever.
When you're team with a lot of really fast people, if you can keep track of what they're doing,
you can play slow off that
and just help them excel
so maybe that's like what he does good
he just like helps fast players excel
yeah you don't need to be cracked
like look at this like this isn't cracked at all
do you feel like they're too dead right now
he's just are you cracked at this game
uh when I need to be
are there people who are overly cracked
that do you think need to slow the fuck down
when I first started team with bound for sure
um
Bounds are crack like he'll know
he'll know he's gonna die but still just hit that
G slide into the
Well, he doesn't know if he's going to die
But he makes it so he's going to die sometimes
But he can come a long way from that
I didn't realize how cracked he was
Some people at times bound for sure
I feel like his sensitivity is like
I think part of that
Look is the movement
Yeah his FOV is really high too
I'm trying to think of other players to play extremely
Cracked I probably shouldn't
I mean it's just like a timing thing
I mean maybe like
Was a Renegade at times
played a little too cracked
but I think they've both gotten better
and learned when to be and when not to be.
All right, let's get down to the real question.
Tell the real question why we all brought you here.
Was Monsker cheating?
We want to know.
Is Monsker Wally?
I think some people are just really comfortable in their chair.
I think Chance just might be one of those.
I also think he hasn't had the opportunity
to team with some of the better players.
So, like, people give him a lot of crap for his land performances and whatever.
but like if you go look at it I'm sure like all his teammates don't do is good
like it's probably not just him yeah
it's like an experienced thing but the the only thing I'll say to that
you did chow me for an over and I got it so shout out to chance Duncan
some of uh real one in 2024 some of his teammates have like gone on to be like a little
more successful like I think like suppressed precisions on a on a decent team
well I think that also has to do with how long they've been in the scene in their age
partially because chances I mean chances older than
me.
But they do
at the events
at the events
I don't think
he's cheating.
Yeah,
I don't,
I don't think he's cheating
either.
And it's kind of
fucked up
that people are like,
real,
like,
it's,
I mean,
seriously,
he can't tweet,
he can't stream
without people
just,
he just gets harassed.
Yeah.
I mean,
it's because of the
whole fucking,
what,
H1Z1 thing.
Yeah.
Just followed
forever. You do it once and it just follows you forever.
Even if you're not doing it anymore. Even if you
didn't do it in a tournament or whatever. Yeah, he did it
in a pub. In pubs or whatever, yeah.
Or just a... And bro, I ain't gonna lie.
I've been almost
wanting to download walls for God. He's been talking about
downloading walls lately.
Just for fun.
It's not like I'm gonna grab. Just punch him in the face.
Find a J-tag right now. But no, I don't, I don't think
Monsters cheating either. I do think
some people, I think he has performance
anxiety. Yeah, which a lot of people
do. But it's weird because
Because you would think he would be like dominating in scrims, but then like once a tourney starts, he plays worse against Optic.
But it's like he fucking levels up.
When it comes tourney time versus Optic for top three or some shit.
And I don't know if y'all lost him or not last.
I've just seen him last.
Yeah, well, everyone lost to them in the first one.
Yeah.
Oh, they ended up winning, didn't they?
Yeah, they did.
Wait, who wasn't with SSG?
Yeah, yeah, instead of legend.
Because legend hadn't, he wasn't in the U.S. yet.
Yeah.
But it is weird.
that...
There are players like that.
Shout out to WANWord.
Not many people know who WANWord is.
He was competing during a K-O-3 MCC.
I went to one land with him.
He definitely played better online.
Yeah.
And he would win some of the online tournaments.
Mosker is just like, he's been doing it so long,
you would think he would be comfortable.
But I almost feel like...
It could be the pressure of that whole...
I felt like the longer I got...
I was in the scene,
the more not relaxed I was.
Like you would think like inverse for you like the more tournaments you went to the more anxiety like when my first event Charlotte 07 I remember playing through open bracket like kicking my feet up talking shit and like I didn't give me.
Maybe that's like yeah.
And then as I got better expectations come and like you know other people are like looking at you and you got you have to prove yourself because you got this chance on your team.
And then like I feel like as time went on I got more and more like sort of uncomfortable.
And my point is,
Chance has been competing for so long.
I just don't know how the fuck he has.
I don't know either, but yeah.
Because he's done so well.
And apparently he's decent Halo 5.
He was.
And it took a game off me in Halo 5 online.
Respectable.
And it's just like, how is he not fucking,
I mean, we have an event.
We have an event here in a couple weeks.
Two weeks or whatever.
This is the year to turn it around.
So chance is.
The year.
He has a chance.
Year 13.
Sorry.
Or how,
dude,
he's been,
I think,
going to events
since like 2010 or something.
Yeah.
But yeah,
maybe it's his time.
He was pretty much a cod,
too.
He played a few turns.
He's a gamer for sure.
He's a gamer.
He was a good at Fortnite.
He was good at H-1Z1.
Oh,
yeah,
he was a pro in H-1.
He won an event.
The game he cheated in.
He won an event,
Owen land.
Imagine if all this,
all this cheating accusations was out like back then.
They would have,
I feel bad for him for sure.
I'm sure if you watched anyone's POV in theater,
there would be moments where you're like, what the fuck.
But also theater and Halo Infinite specifically really is kind of bad.
It doesn't, there's desync, right?
And in theater that kind of won't be there,
it'll kind of get rid of it when you're actually watching it happen in real time.
So your screen that you're actually seeing when you're playing the game
will be different than what theater shows.
So there's some leeway.
I know people posted more clips, whatever.
I can't believe the UI hasn't changed from,
like it's still
I'm whenever I watch a match
and it's like in the
casting view or the
oh yeah spectator mode
spectator mode is kind of similar to theater mode
dude like the the bar
the bar for like where the score is
is so small
they need to whoever's casting
put on large text mode please
large text mode
there's large text mode that'll make all that stuff
bigger and make it easier for the viewer to see
they should just put that on
honestly because I agree like a lot of people
when the game came out played large text mode
because you couldn't fucking see the score.
Yeah, dude.
People were like, wait, we lost?
It's like, yeah, we fucking lost.
Cammo's up?
Oh my God.
Yeah, Cammo's up.
Like, what is, like, King of the Hill?
Is that the one where like ticks up or I guess strongholds?
Yeah, like, whenever, whenever I'm watching it,
especially if I'm watching on my phone, I'm like.
Yeah, you're like 60%?
10%.
Especially if it's like close.
Like, who is winning?
No, yeah, they should put on big text, man.
I didn't even know that was the thing.
Louis V.
Put on big.
Textman, please.
How was, um,
so we got the event in two weeks.
You excited?
How's the,
how's the switch been?
I feel like your,
your guys backs are against the wall a little bit.
What do you mean?
We have the highest expectations or?
No, like, you guys are,
what, fifth seed going into this event?
Yeah.
And it's like the team change happened.
Are they going to be better?
They're going to be worse.
Do you feel any like,
is,
is it different being on opt?
now? Like, do you hear more people in your ear or in your mentions?
No.
Or anything like that?
No.
I mean, even if I did, I don't really care.
I mean, there's, you know, that's probably the longest stint I've had with three, well, four players.
Honestly, that's the longest I've been on a team.
That's the most muscle memory built.
And everyone on optic plays very different.
Yeah, what's that?
What's that transition been like?
It's like undoing that muscle memory of two years.
So, like, you know, the first tournament, I probably looked like a fucking,
dog shitter. Like I played horribly because I was just making assumptions that I would have to on my previous team that I don't have to make it all on this one
It's a lot of undoing that we've been watching a lot of film fixing a lot of stuff
We have our great moments and our kind of average bad moments whatever
That last on the attorney wasn't real Matt would completely take the blame honestly he he admitted he played like shit
Uh shout to the the card
It's weird just like it'll show his the card
Convention shout to the card convention he was waking up at 730 to go to that shit and then getting on to play like a match is
as soon as he got in the office.
On the Pokemon cards right now.
Like, cracked.
Yeah.
He apologized for it.
I respect it.
He's been absolutely fucking locked in on these scrims and we've been getting
way better.
So I'm looking forward to the tournament.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah.
Whenever Matt goes robot mode for scrims, like, bro, I remember when he first joined the
optic team when they dropped pistola, when he joined that team, they were like fucking
robots.
They were like 100 and 0.
They, like, they'd be up 9-0 map count, but like they are going.
going hard as fuck.
They want to,
Matt had, like, so much to prove.
You think after this, I mean, he's admitted it before.
I was trying to explain this earlier with the fucking,
Matt's explained this like,
when the alligator eats,
he's complacent.
And,
say,
I'm gonna,
I'm gonna,
I'm gonna,
I'm gonna butcher it again.
But he was basically,
he wins and gets complacent.
He wins,
he gets complacent.
So he doesn't.
He loses that hunger.
control yeah he loses that fucking hunger
put off the gas and and
I do I feel like he lost it for cod
he came back to Halo
dominated he was one of the best
players helped optic improve
is that kind of how you were in 09 too
like you win
then complacent
win and then I got complacent for 10 years
I got complacent for ever
I'm so sorry I've been shitting on him the whole time
that was enough for me
but yeah no I feel like formal
he kind of goes through those waves
and I think this last
online tourney hopefully because it would
show his POV and I would tell my chat
I was like I don't think he might not even be playing
bad like his stats are bad but the formal
says he's playing bad then I believe he's playing bad
yeah I mean especially well I mean a big part obviously of his
wake him up of his like gameplay is hitting shots
right like he's just a fucking shot hitter
it's like that day he like kind of just got on
and it wasn't hitting shots and then like you know
we're seeing like Matt's Nick 15 like this isn't like him at all
whatever and then like you know
we start head casing it
we tell him to just like play his life and then he's
playing it too much and he should have just
kind of like suiciding he just
suiciding aka making the right play
if you don't want to battle whatever I rather him
go neg 10 making the right play
yeah it's just weird like because
just an off day honestly watching his POV and like
he wasn't missing to me
really yeah it wasn't
like maybe he wasn't like a hundred percent accuracy
like they're fucking used to
but there's like little
times where it's like
it's the micro
yeah yeah
the little micro shit well good to hear
that that lit
a little bit of a fire under Matt's ass
oh he's been fucking locked
we'll see the halo
he's been a menace in these scrims
really fucking menace really that's the best
he's been hating on people who's
oh if he starts hating people he's
he's back he's so bad his gameplay
his gameplay is hating on people around yeah
well that's good to hear man we got the halo
team coming to us live
in what is it like March 15
Like two weeks
Here in Arlington
At the Optic E-sports
Stadium, I will not be
Unfortunately, scum-canceled
Watch Party, because there's CDL
going on, but I'll be watch partying from home
But, um
Yeah, man, I see potential
for this team. I want you guys to win.
We're all rooting for you.
It's gonna be fun. It's really fun one.
I think I'm going to shoot Vision that weekend too.
Fuck in. Wait, what?
Shooting a vision. Yeah, I have a vision that I'm
that I have to do from the
charity event, the offseason.
It was one of the incentives.
Are you going to get me for an interview?
Yes.
All right.
Hell yeah.
So I'll probably be there shooting.
You gotta remember how to.
Well, all right.
Dead Zone,
AKA Penguin,
thank you so much for joining us.
Formerly.
We'll see you at the event.
I need everyone rooting
for the Green Wall once again.
I mean, they're always there.
They're always there.
You'll get to feel it on your side,
I guess,
I like being booed.
Well,
I'm sorry.
You guys did something.
Maybe we can come up with something special
when,
when Dead Zone comes out,
everyone just booze hard as fucking.
He's just like,
all right.
Thank you guys so much for watching.
Dead Zone.
Thanks for joining us.
Big Head.
Play that outro music.
