The Flycast - WHO IS THE BIGGEST DIVA IN OpTic The Flycast EP. 65

Episode Date: February 22, 2023

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You know the other day on stream? I prayed. The other day on stream, for any gifted sub or new sub, I prayed for them. I don't fucking know how I came up with the idea. I feel like that shouldn't be a lot. I don't know. It's like, I don't know. I don't even know how I got into it.

It could be TOS. I don't know. Dude, one time, dude, one time on a TST stream, I was like, somebody gifted five. And I was like,

don't, don't give five. Do not. And then from then on, for the next 30 minutes, we went on like a 500 sub-train. And every time someone gifted, I was like,

no. No, no, I will find you. I will find you and beat the shit out of you. It's so fucking. It's just like when you get, when, when chat plays along, it's just like some of the like alter. I don't know if you call it an alter ego, but like some of the, I just like go into like a almost like different person. Just so ultimately troll. Like I don't even really.

Maybe I'm getting more into praying and stuff. as I get old. I don't know. Maybe I'm getting more into it as I get older, but I never sit there and pray, but I can't even remember how some that's how I just got into praying for any fucking gifted sub or fucking...

How many people were gifting? It was probably like 10. Okay. Yeah, then it'd go crazy. Imagine you did it for three hours? I don't even like know how to pry. really I just kept saying the same same shit like Lord I just be like Lord thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to pray opportunity to pray today for Lord or for Spartan

192 please look over him and his family thank you so much for this life you give us please bless him and his loved ones thank you so much in Jesus name amen they're like I don't know it was a little longer than that but it was like I don't even know how I got into it Dumbest shit I've ever Oh that's so funny That is so funny What else did I want to talk about today

Dude I saw I was watching Your uh Your Valentine's Day stream Whenever you were You were watching the uh The Halo tournament And you kept playing that Ice Spice song They said that I'm good enough

Girl my terr Dera Thin them Bro my girl is so like annoyed with me Like all I just keep saying that he said i'm good enough he said i'm good enough grab my dittara think about shittar grub my dittara dude that song is what everyone loves that song now it's like pop it i like i don't even know

how i heard it that boy's a liar that boy's a lot i keep i keep singing that part it's definitely a tic-tok song it is um i have listened to the whole thing i don't i don't even know if i heard it on tic-tok though before i might have started the trend you didn't start the trit i saw it on i saw it on Twitter because people people were like this is one of the best like UK US collabs ever yeah it's what is it about ice spice because dude I'm a human that looks like her it's not no one's ever looked like her in human history and it's not that bad of a thing it's just like no one's ever looked like that like that like I might be be the closest and I'm still so far away like I want to know what her parents look like

she's not ugly she's not ugly she like she looks what are you talking about I'm talking about her like rapping style like because it's it's good it's good it's good it's good it's good it's good you know what I mean but it's but why is it good you know why is it good you know Um, because, cause I know, I thought, I thought it was gonna, I thought much was gonna be like it. You know? I thought I for sure thought. I was like, I almost felt felt bad because she literally became that. And it's like she's still kind of that, but she's like, but sort of breaking out of.

Sort of doing her, her own there. But it's like, because she said, he, she said, he, he said it, he said it I'm good enough. Grab my da da da. thinking about things that I do it on Sting about shit And then she goes That boy is a cat That boy is a cat

It's like what is a cat And like what is the accent That boy is a cap And why? Brow on a back It's just like a Bronx New York Think about me because he know that I fat And it's just like

It's not good It's good Yeah Because he's not as fat But why is it so good Why is it good? It's not a lot of It doesn't make sense.

It's one of those things because like I'll play it on stream and, you know, of course, chats like trash. Trash or like some of the trash like trash. But then like all there's sort of like playing a fire fire. Right, right. But it's like I don't, if you sit there and listen to it, you're not, if you sit there and really listen and like try to dissect it, it's not good. But if you just let it play in your ears, let it play.

You just have to let it play in your ears. Like there's something, there's like something about it. And it's original. I think the other girl is really cute. The girl who sings- I mean, she has like a pretty face. Who sings the hook? Like, I think she's, like,

I was like, who is that? She, um, she's a hot. She has a decent face. I see her butt. Here we go with the butt. You're a butt guy. Yeah, but ice spice though. Think about me because they know that it's fat.

Think about me because they're not as fat. It's so, the song is so original though, like, no one when is a rapper i've heard i've heard like brooklyn male rappers kind of do the like the roll the d yeah um i've heard that a little bit but i haven't heard like a female rapper and it's like i don't know something about it is refreshing like i respect it i really really thought she was going to fall off after the much stuff like i yeah i heard but i think now she can't i think it's too late now or to fall off yeah too late to fall off but good thing for her there

because now I've seen she's like trending everywhere I saw somebody another rapper bought like a $300,000 watch and said Ice Spice is this for you come get it though TJ Is that who that was? Yeah I don't know who little TJ is

He's another yeah he's another New York rapper Nah she's not gonna Because I don't think she's gonna fall off I think now I think she clutched up I think she had like some other songs too I forget what they were but Ice Spice definitely clutched up Yeah

She, um, or if she didn't look the way she looked, would she? No. I mean, that's probably a lot of female artists, though, right? Unfortunately. Because the good female artists that don't over-sexualize themselves don't make it. How did Adele get so popular?

Because she's, because she's just that good. She is like the epitome of talent. I heard, some music executive or some shit talk like some interview and they were talking about like

she was like if anyone comes up to me and says you gotta hear this person they're so talented she was like I immediately don't even want to listen to them because she was like talent you find talent everywhere she was like there's so much talent in the world like we don't

even look for that like it's so easy to find talent you look for marketability yeah like market marketability something different about them are they like are they likable do they have like a not like a cult fan base but do they have like that

like I don't know like a specific yeah could they tap into like a cultural like fan base she was like can they do all that she was like there's so much talent though it's like they don't even look for that anymore you know what's crazy I haven't listened to Have you fallen off of Drake? I've been, I've listened to Drake in probably like six months, which is fucking insane to me.

Well, what's the last thing he put out with 21 Savage? Yeah. Well, that was one of his best, I think that's one of his best, like projects in a minute. Like in that probably since views,

I would say. Yeah, that was really good. Like it was really good. Oh, man, views. Yeah. Views, it's different because it's like there's so. Views will forever have, for some reason, being in the cold in Chicago.

And with the scuff guys, views will forever have like a special place in my heart. I all, I think that, I think a lot of people slept on it, the intro to views, probably my favorite intro. All of mine is we friends. Are friends that I don't have. have him anymore how do you know when we've probably told the story multiple times but just the fact that we were all sitting there and cess bedroom laying on the floor laying on the floor lights like that's when like that's that's when they would just play it on like Apple radio or something and it's like you couldn't even listen to it first you had it it would play through it like

the radio before it even dropped it because i'll I'll never forget the, I got responsibility. And people that I need. And there's some shit he never ever fucking did before. Or like just that. Responsibility. The range.

Dude, there's so. I remember the check that you could take this. In your Jeep, you had CDs. I think you had you had take care. Right. In your mouth. Sorry. You had take care.

Yep. fucking I remember listening Like Lord knows The worst nightmare My first night man And this girl right here Who does what she knows

So I'm going to the phone Is she gonna run Thum in the purse right here Because I don't trust these holes at all Like God Dude There's so many That's crazy

That's a crazy thing to rap about In 2011 Dude I'm going through her phone In her purse right there While she in the bathroom I don't trust these hos at all Drake

And that's just a result of me paying attention That's crazy That's a crazy Dude People don't realize I can't I don't We maybe one day

We'll do a flycast With a Drake hater Well I guess that'd be Hex or something But it's like HECCater HeX likes Drake He likes Drake He sort of understands

But I just don't I don't get it I don't get how you can hate on it He's so Well people just I mean people just fucking hate now, man. People just, the fact

that I, who was I talking to about it? The fact that LeBron gets as much hate as he does just shows it like, oh, people just hate. People just hate. Like, how do you hate LeBron? Like, it's one thing to say that Jordan is better. I understand that there's an argument there. I understand that if you're a,

if you're a Jordan fan and you think Jordan's the best of all time and somebody says LeBron's the best of all time and you disagree, that's a disagreement. Killer instinct. It's so bad. But just be, but LeBron breaks the record, the scoring record, and gets hate. And it's like, this motherfucker dedicated.

Suddenly people don't really give a fuck about the scoring record. He dedicated his entire life to a sport and has exceedingly like, or as has constantly exceeded. Yeah, with that much pressure. I mean, it's, this is before high school mixtapes and now you got like high school superstars coming out. He was the only high school superstar in the world. Like that came out. And they made Carmelo Anthony. Yeah.

Yeah. I know. Because they, they were like rivals. They were like rivals in basketball. But still, like no other, no other high school basketball star was on the cover of what ESPN, right? That shit,

that shit wasn't happening. So I don't, I don't know. I, I just think, I think that people are just going to hate. I mean, you see what happens with, I mean, you see what happens with Rinaldo and Messi all the time and people just fucking hate. And who are those people? The haters? People

are here. There's got to be hated. Some of them are going to be in here. Some of these, some of them are going to be in our comment sections. Like, who are they? Where are they? There's people like us who like troll haters. So like if somebody's like, yeah, Jordan's the best to ever do it. And I'm like, Jordan only played against plumbers. Like that's me trolling them. And it's hard for like a hater to like to be like, oh wait, they're joking like because I don't joke about anything. I only hate things. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaking of hate, I was in Kai Sinette's chat. That's worse than the CDL. Oh my God. I thought the CDL was the worst chat I've ever experienced. Like the amount people insane. Codran came out. I've been streaming that. I mean, people do it in Halo as well.

People do it every fucking stream I do. But it's like, I'll just get, I'll just be doing bad. Like, just not having the best game. And so it's just, someone will literally type you space S.UK. Just you suck. And it's like you like, like nothing funny, nothing like, like you're getting, you're getting clapped. You're getting clasie clapped. Like, oh my God, maniacs getting slammed or something.

Like any, nothing to like. make it a little sort of joky. It's just like, you suck. And it'll be like, first time chatter. Never seen him in my chat before. But it's like someone will just like type some shit like that. And it's just like, you know what game randomly is the worst for that? Rocket League.

Dude, if you ever stream Rocket League. I saw Reddell's Twitter post. Did you see that? He said like it's so he was like having people. Something about like he's been performing bad individually and it's so hard having people judge your every single move in Rocket League and how there's so much like hate coming his way. I mean, I will say Rocket League is randomly the most toxic community. Really? It's the most toxic community that I've ever.

Really? Yeah. Like not been a part of it. Yeah. Like I've been around Call of Duty. I've been around Gears of War. Gears of War is like where toxicity was created. It was like where it was born.

Call it Duty. Call it. Legal Legends is crazy though. I mean, I worked with a League of Legends team for a little bit. Worked with a CounterStrike team for a long time. Watching Valerant. I mean, Overwatch. I've worked in all these different games.

I've never seen a more toxic game. Really? As far as the community base than Rocket League. It's like it's unbelievable. What do they say? It's like if you try to so so TST closes out stream a lot of the time playing a couple games Rocket League We're just like you know that you know we had fun playing call of duty for you know four hours and now we're gonna play a few games of Rocket League before we get off And it's like as soon as Atlas changes the game on Twitch from call the duty to Rocket League

First time chatters come in and they're like why do these guys have so many viewers they're fucking horrible Yeah and it's like it has happens every when I I am not lying it happens every stream it's like the base it's like the basis it's like the basis like the core community of Rocket League is like they're so like judgmental on like you have to be good to get viewers like you are or you just if you have to be good to stream like you can't you can't you can't play that game to have fun even if you are good it's like that's still not good enough you're not good enough oh my god this guy sucks you're not perfect it's like what a dude it It's like, it's like absurd because that game, it is very skillful,

but it is probably one of the most, like, day of games ever. Like, our Rocket League team could get last in a tournament or we could get first in the tournament. That doesn't happen in Halo. Halo, it's one of two teams. Really? It's like that in Rocket League? Yeah. Yeah.

And people are going to say, I'm crazy, but I'm not. I know I'm not. there are there are times where like I'll I'll watch I'll watch our guys play and it's like oh they're gonna lose this by a lot and then we three owe the team and then they're like oh oh holy shit we three owed that team there's we're good to go in and and we're gonna make it through to the next round and then we lose to the next the next team that we for sure should have been a win and it's because that game is so like momentum base where it's like if you get your rotations down and your tech's your tech is doing well and your callouts are doing well you're you're you're you're You can beat anyone. You can beat anyone. But, but the toxicity of the actual, like, fan base is insane.

If somebody misses a rotation, or if somebody hits the crossbar or something or they didn't, you know, get back in time, people would be like, holy shit, this guy sucks. Like,

way worse than call a duty. That is not what I would expect for Rocket League. Rocket League almost seems like more of a, I mean, it's We have a Mario party I'm gonna be honest, it's too hard of a game That I didn't even want to get started on it Because it goes against everything I know

Like the fucking upside down backwards I want to go up up But I hit down Like shit like that So it's just I couldn't even get into it But I guess that That helps me sort of Because I saw Reddell's tweet that

And I was like Literally it came into my mind Like this is Rocket League like what? I think I tweeted one time. I'm thinking like is it the optics sort of like is he getting some like optic hate or something? No. No. Or is it just?

I bet you the optic fans love the team. Love the optic team more than the Rocket League community does. Like as far as just like blind love. Mm-hmm. Because the Rocket League community is just brutal, bro. What is our, what's our Rocket League team like placing? Where are they about it? We should be like, we should be like, we should be.

like top six is what people are thinking. But we've had a couple tough goes at the last couple of events. So I think that's why Reddles was feeling down. And like there was a bunch of shakeup with the Rockett League community, a bunch of team

changes, and we thought we were going to make a team change, and we didn't make a team change. And so like, who knows what the chemistry is like, but Yeah, I've been playing a cod lately. And it's sort of at first, it's weird like when I first switched to the game, First off, do you like the game?

No. I think it's the worst call of duty ever made. What? Competitively. Dude, I don't, why? I don't hate it. I enjoy the slowness in the shit movement. Because I'm 31.

I enjoy the gun fights. Okay, here, here, okay. It's weird because I stand by the fact that it's the worst it's the it's the worst competitive cod made I I think this I think maybe ever what was the 2019 game I think that was my least favorite say and it's the same game it's the same game but one you can't move as much which is the one we're playing but any game where there's not dead silence is already it's just not competitive it's like it like it's not even like no one's gonna have any good memories of it

I don't think anyone's gonna play this game and just think like oh my god this is like a legendary game like I'll always remember the seasons are over yeah no one's ever gonna touch this game comes out you're never gonna touch this game again and I think maybe those games might even be like done like I think the last game like that was black ups three maybe blackups four but but I will say the rank play is a lot of fun.

It is, it is, it's a, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, you already see, you see, like big time streamers playing ranked. Like Doc and Tim and Jack and Zelaner and Aden, like, a nuke squad,

they're all playing ranks. It's because it's fun. Don't they fucking get it? Don't they get it? Don't they fucking, it's fun to rank up. I mean, maybe this is part of their

strategy. is to bring it out this like when did the game come out last November and to like boom game comes out people were into it because it's a new cod a few months later boom rank comes out people are sort of back into it I can sort of see the strategy bar on that yeah I would I would agree with you if the if the company that made the game made the ranked play but infinity award made the game and trey arc made the rank play It's I do like the right play and it's like cool looking ranks It seems like every fire streak yeah, I I just think the game it the game could be

Absolutely incredible like if you change Two things three things the game is I think it's incredible like literally like a like a an amazing call of duty but just the fact like just how it plays right now it's just it's horrendous man like it's uh it just makes me sad i've been yeah i haven't touched a cod and i don't know how long finally touched this one i've been playing and at first they're like

fun like i feel like they're fun people like when i first start diving into a new cod yeah especially like playing ranked literally i ranked up to in pubs to a level 16 or whatever and then i just jumped right into rank never played the game don't know the maps anything people are obvious people are people have been grinding pub so they're just far ahead of me in the game but i think it's pretty fun at first it's always fun though i feel like trying to get better at stuff or get better at the game and like i feel like the chat enjoys it but i feel like it's almost slowly becoming the more

I play and the better I get the I'm getting less fun out of it because not only am I playing better people like I've been searching with like Rambo he's in like Diamond or something so I don't know who I'm matching against but they're like

decent players and it's like kind of a buzzkill not knowing the game as much than all these other fucks that I'm playing against and just like just everyone has the cutoffs and it's like I am literally hopping around a corner just scoping in hoping I just find someone and I feel like I'm kind of like I don't know I feel like I have potential

in this game like I'm not no I think I think this game is one of the best is one of the best games I've been at or it's one of the best call of duties like it's one it's one of the best meat what am I trying to say me personally I am best at this god you're pretty good at this I'm pretty good at it like in comparison to the last couple of odds. I wasn't that good at, I mean, I was okay at Vanguard, like, when first search and destroy, but I, I didn't like the rank play system. And I was, you know, we, we just trolled a lot in Monofer 2019 and Cold War was kind of bleh. I wasn't, I wasn't that good at Cold War. But I'm pretty good at this game, uh, just like in my, in my play style. And, uh, I'm interested

in getting better. I'm like, I, I like to play the rank play system. I'm trying to learn cut like, I'm trying to learn rotations because rotations are, or not, but spawns are so different in Coddnau days and I'm so used to if I spawn here and the hill is here then they spawn here and then we fight for the hill but now it's like the hill is here and we spawn beside each other and we're racing to the hill together trying to look right and left and that's always that's been a change of like pace for me. Rambo was trying to teach me and I was just like I'm gonna just have to play like everything you're saying it's like I hear you But it's like I can't like all the comms. And it's like, yeah. I'm playing multiple games just to even like I'll hear maps. And that might be the only call out I know right now.

And I don't even know the maps. But it's like I'll hear I'll hear callouts. But it's like I can't put two and two. He like tried to explaining. He was like, uh, I think we got a search. And I was like, all right, where should I go? He was like, go, uh, remember P2 from last game? And I was like, no.

No. And then someone else in the party was like, dude, we just played it last game. How do you forget? And I was like, I don't fucking, or maybe it was like P4 or something. I'm like, dude, you know how much I have to think back up like, all right, let's think a last game. This first hill, second, hill, third. I do that too.

Like, it's so much. In 2019, like, people started doing. I just have to play. It was only in 2019 where people started doing the P1, P2, P3 thing. Really? Yeah. Like, before that, every hill, like, had their own call out. and I still call out the hills based off the call out

so like P3 yeah I'd be like it's going mid I never say P one two one two three so P3 on on Vagra is stage it's like the that's what we call it and I don't ever say P3 I always say stage always heckledging stage yeah and it's and or he's our P2 is white truck

wait no P1 I don't know the map name one is white truck but so you just say white truck so you don't fucking think about yeah exactly I say white truck and I say stage I think P2 is staged

see I don't even know either I'm still learning I'm still learning the rotations and stuff it does dude what so we we happen to rank the first day and everyone's bronze to start did you guys play pubs

no what did you guys fucking play All we've played is search in this game. We've only played 3V3 GB search. So we, we hop, when league play comes out, we start our 100 hours, we're on an hour like five. And Bruce is like, yo, I'm hard stuck bronze. Let's play together. Dashy?

So we play with Bruce and it's a lot of fun. Then, so we go on like a five win streak. Then we get Parasite. Parasites Challenger's team. Dude, and just Dude, and it was on Mercado Hardpoint, which we have never played. And Mercado

has, I have come to now know, has like 12 hills on the map. So literally Bruce was calling out P7 and I'm like P7 P8. I'm trying to think what map that is. There's like a, it's like a hallway, like a big

hallway to. the middle with like a fruit fruit stands there's a double two story building there's a 10 there's like a taco truck in the bat 10 10's two story 10 building like with a whole like blacktop loading area

I'm literally gonna Google it just I know a big tunnel there's a big tunnel in the middle like a brick tunnel I can only like think of like two different maps right out Murkado map so anyway these guys guys play the these guys play the map four times a day they fucking and they're on I think they're on amazing host like like we're Blake and George are on 90 80 ping you know 90

this man yeah so we get absolutely demolished like demolished yeah wait what was the game type hard point okay yeah that what was that a 250 to 20 and it's 20 and it's It was 250 like 46 or something But then we played them on then we played them on embassy Which we actually do know the rotations We got like 150 points 160 points something like that We played them back to back But but anyway I I'm checking my chat and they're like

Man this makes you feel better because these guys play this game all day and they're getting destroyed It's like Dude Dude. You gotta get it, right? There has to be, there has to be like a, there has us calling out like reading our chat, like us playing call the duty like GBs is not us trying to win GPs. Yeah. It's us reading chat with something that we can do that we are good enough at that some people think it would be fun to watch. That is basically mind numbing like like not mind numbing.

But like, you're not even thinking. They're not even thinking. When I spawn in, I don't care who we're playing. I don't care. I don't care the rotations. I don't care if you die. Don't care if you get a kill. People in my chat can attest to this on search and destroy.

I do the same shit every round on every side. If I spawn in, everyone in my chat knows where I'm going. They know what I'm pre-aming. And it's like, I do it every single day. And then if I die, I talk to chat. I put on a beat. You know, we twerk maybe, we dance, we have fun, we re-chat. That's what our stream is.

I'm not spawning into fucking, we played, I'm not spawning into a 4V4, first of all. And I'm not spawning into a hard point. And I just, I read it so many times where it's like, man, these guys that think they're so good are just getting smoked. Yeah. And it's like, as soon as I saw a parasite's name, I knew we were losing. I get shit talked. People have said to me, because I had optic in my name, that I, play this game all day.

And I'm just like, they don't, it's just, I've had, I've had people after the game be like, maniac, you trash. Or like,

optic maniac, you trash. Get off the game, kid. You play this shit all day. Still trash. And I'm just like, dude,

I'm on day two. Like, you play the game all day. You suck. I have barely fucking touched this shit. It honestly makes me like, ooh, nothing gets,

nothing pisses me off more than when they're happy. And so it's like when they, when they win and they're happy about beating me I'm like dude this is nothing to be excited about right it pisses me off so much just we all I can tell I can tell I can hear in their voice if they're like happy or something

people are just like they're so like I mean you get to a point now we're like we're starting to understand but like if you played if you played CDL Moshpit or if you play if you played variant GBs or you scrimmed or you played tournaments like you should beat us a hundred percent of the time you

should beat us if you lose you're awful like that's how it that's how it should be yeah because we don't play this i'm not gonna lie i've been talking shit though too like kind of makes it fun for the chat it does like i hit z at the other days i'm like y'all are so bad i don't even touch the it and just makes it fun. I love when people say, oh my God, you play this shit. You play games for a living.

Like, well, no, stream for a living, but, yeah. I happen to play games on stream. I get what you're saying.

I get what you're saying. You're still bad, though. And it makes me, it makes me, it makes me happy that I've been, I've been frying people. Fucking,

uh, what I, first off, I'm going to say this and I have to take a piss really bad. But, so I'm going to take a little break. What I don't understand is how pros don't shit their, shit their pants during an S&D at tournaments.

Because when I, I just played an S&D and ranked. It was, I don't even know if it was 5.5. It might have been 5, 5, 5, but that wasn't necessarily the round I was, I was nervy. It was like a 1v3 and I ended up, or like, I killed one, killed another, plant a bomb, and then it's like, ooh. And then I'm like hiding and I'm just like I'm so fucking and then like I'm like checking the bomb but I'm afraid I'm like in the middle of the map. There's an alley. It was on the fucking map we just talked about. Yeah, I'm in the middle of the lane. I'm in the middle lane just like behind some corner and I plant the bomb and like B to where I can still see it. And I'm just like checking that. I'm like there's a left. There's a middle. There's a right fucking he could be anywhere. And like this is this is just all going on in my head. But and then I end up winning like check bomb he's on I kill him or first off check bomb he's like head glitching it I'm like fuck stay alive back up I'm like thinking like not counting the seconds of my head but I'm like fuck could he be yeah sprinting back look at the bomb and he's on it I'm like ah And I kill him I kill him off of let's fucking go but it was just like and then like the next round is loading in I'm just like

and I'm like dude this is a fucking bronze ranked match no one gives a fuck and it's just but I'm just thinking like dude if it was and then I think it might have went to like game five

or maybe like another game went to like game five but it was just like so like heart wrenching like it was so stressful I don't yeah like stressful but it's just like I don't understand

I mean I'm sure I was talking to my chat about it I was like dude how do pros do this like I'm sitting here in a 5-5 in a rank game at bronze fucking three and I'm like shakily like I don't know it's just like into it and I was just like worked up over and I was like dude how do these pros play on the main play on like main stage the lights the crowd it's 5-5 and it's like especially if you're in like a 1 v1 everyone is looking at what you're doing or like a 2V1 and like your teammate dies or something like that it's like everyone sees every single

movement and it's i guess i understand they have so many reps that it's like they so they know a lot for me it's completely random i don't know where he's going to be coming from i don't know where to go i don't so it's i guess a lot for me a lot more like hectic but because i feel like it didn't used to be like that because i played mwr for a little bit and i would so you just sort of know it's going on but I just feel like I would yeah like that that's I would shit my pants 55 and like a 1v1 like dude that's I've always wondered how I would be on stage like like in an actual tournament

it doesn't not like against pros but just in that scenario I feel like people people I mean even now when I just said it like on the main stage it's like there are some people who are worse at events but I don't know I don't think it necessarily has to do with have to do with like main stage or anything like that. Like some people, I don't know. I feel like when you sit down, I'm more comfortable on main stage that I am having like someone,

say I'm over there playing and someone's just behind me watching. It's like, I'll think about it more, not like nervous, but it's just like, I don't know, just knowing someone's behind me watching. It's weird because on stream,

everyone's watching, but it's like, I don't even think about it like that. But if someone in real life is like standing behind me watching, it's like I sort of think about it. Yeah. And it kind of, that's why do you remember in like the Halo days? I wouldn't want people. I was the only one allowed in there.

Yeah. I felt like a G. I'd walk in there and be like, I'm only one in here. Yeah. If it's a serious tournament, I would not want like any other time like Pomash would come in, lay there like a girl on a side with his ass in the air and just like watch me play a little bit. And it's like that I wouldn't care. But if it's in a tournament, I did not want people. just like standing behind me watching it.

Just like, I don't know, something, even like, even when I competed, I remember teaming with like snipe down. And for a little bit, he sat beside me and he would, I would kind of lean back and he would lean forward like this. And it's like he would like, like, when he'd be dead, he'd like sort of lean over and like just watch my screen. And I remember telling him like, like, don't watch my screen. Because it takes me from like focus, like just being focused on the game to now

I see you and it's just it just sort of takes off my focus just like in this slightest bit and it kind of I want to just move seats if I were you well I don't know I just I feel like for multiple for a bunch of teams I was on I would be like dude just don't

I don't care if you look at my screen just don't like don't fucking stare at it because it like kind of I don't know just kind of fucking basically the point is I don't know or what I was saying is I don't know I feel like I would freak the fuck out on main stage.

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bringing on a creator in a long long time I feel like this is gonna be he's gonna be here for a long time he's retired it's not one of this like he's on the cod team so it's gonna no he's he's retired

he wanted to be I mean bro had it he had his apartment lease before he retired. For here? Yeah. That's not true, but he was already,

he was already coming. Why do you think he, I look at it like this. He was, he kind of like fell off a little, he was a pro, then he fell off a little bit. He wasn't he in challengers for a little bit?

And then he got back onto like a, like a main team, Boston. And it seems like they were decent. Yeah. I just didn't understand. Understand maybe we could get him on for a guess one day. Yeah, but I just I just didn't understand why

He retired. I mean if Seth Seth makes I think He knew I think he knew that if he retires he's him and Seth are gonna run the scum watch party and Seth yesterday had double the viewership of CDL Double CDL had 40k viewers that's he had 80 And it's like, that's not a situation you can really pass up on. You're looking for, you're looking for what's next when you're competing. Like when you're, when you're winding down. You probably made a smart move.

Yeah. When you're winding down in competition, you're looking for what's next in my opinion. It was almost like what I did. Like, I still had, it was still me, Heinz, APG, and Ace. Like, that was still a good team when we got dropped from Optic. I could have easily sort of kept getting. going but it was like dude i'm like what are we going to be like top six maybe randomly do something better than that but it was like i'm getting i mean then he was zen he's i don't know how old

he is but he's probably he's probably like 26 27 god damn but in my career it was like i sort of know uh or i sort of knew it was time like it was just yeah maybe that's where he was at i don't know 100% I kind of knew it was time but shout out to Zinney man can't wait to we've always Zinney has he wasn't always like a big call a duty figure was he

did he like sort of just was it like the flank that sort of like bloom up because he kind of blue he rated me randomly it was for like 6K viewers or something I was like God damn I mean there's a big I mean there's a big wave behind Zend

right now like he's he's always been no he's always been the very funny guy that people were like if he does content he will do he will succeed yeah but like it's not like I mean he hasn't he hasn't uploaded videos that get 500 k views yet that's why I told him I was like you like we make fun of him for like being a diva and like that's what that's what people are calling them is the diva duo and it's because he's friends with it's because he's really good friends with Seth and Seth can be a diva. Seth uploaded videos that had 100,000,

that had 500,000 viewers or views for a long time. But Zin's always just been like the funny guy on stream. So I'm like, dude, you got to fucking upload. You got to upload and like stream. But I think he's about to. He's about to start grinding. Him and Seth are going to play. So you don't actually consider because I heard, where did I,

maybe I was watching the watch party or something. But someone else mentioned them being divas. why Zinni Zinny's not a diva Yes he is Is he? Wait, why? Yes, he is.

He jokingly says he's not But when Seth I thought it was I look at it like a joke Almost because he's with Seth And almost like he's not He just seems like a A cool chill guy from Jersey

He doesn't really He is a cool chill guy from Jersey No, he's not I've been friends with Zin for a long time And he's a really great He's a really great guy. And he's a really funny guy and he's going to do really well in content. But he's already talking about,

oh, we should get this on the, and it's going to be on the company card. Like, company card? You're on a, he's already on a stream with 80K viewers. Yeah.

Second day out here. That's fucking nice, huh? That must. He got a boost. He got a boost. A lot of us don't get. I've known Seth for nine years.

I've never been the guy on the watch party. It's crazy. Dude, the watch parties are fucking crazy. I wonder if, I wonder how much Seth stresses about it. Or if he, I heard he was really stressed before the first one. Like,

super stressed. Really? Because it was, it was like his first time doing it. I feel like the first one though. The first one banged. Yeah. Got like a hundred and banged.

In cave. Hard. That's fucking. It had to have. No, I'm, I mean, I,

I love Zend. I'm really happy that he's on board, but let's not take away. like, let's not, let's not turn a blind eye to what the fuck Seth has been doing. Like, Seth is crushing. Yeah. And it's what we always knew he was going to do. But like to do it at this scale is just.

I'm not going to, I thought Seth was going to, well, I don't know what he's going to do for like singular streams. Like outside of like watch part and what he's going to play. They're going to play ranked. Zen and Seth are going to play ranked. and then I think Seth is going to play continue to play Hogwarts he's been playing that a little bit I thought he was going to dive into war zone

with like Tim, I thought he was going to join that group like Tim to tap man See I don't know man I was like wondering I was like How well is this going to go See that's what I was That's what I was I was worried I was worried

I was worried I wasn't I didn't it's not like I didn't believe in Seth Because I know Seth's mindset, he will do it until it succeeds. Like, that's just how he is. But I was worried that like he retires and immediately hops into war zone because he thinks that's the thing. And then like it's what happens to a lot of multiplayer streamers.

I'm not saying it what happened to Seth. But like when Tommy would go from the flank and then go play war zone, I mean, the drop off is absurd. Like he would get 12K viewers watching the flank. And then he would play solo Warzone And it's just like his chat died And like And like the viewers just don't don't stick around

Because I just don't think war zone is that game I don't think it is I've only heard I think I've only heard of two people That are really thriving on the war zone right now That's how Nadia She's not even thriving anymore Is it kind of

She doesn't pop up on my TikToks anymore I can say that Yeah it's because no one cares about war zone right now I think like unrational and and Bobby Poff did like a they did a thing where they would get a nuke without shooting their gun and that like did really well but that's the only example of anything that I've seen from war zone that is like really taken off like even like Twitch numbers like streaming it's just yeah streaming it's like I don't I mean I don't see people like well it's not even like Twitch numbers

are going down I just don't even see people playing it and I don't see people playing Call the Duty in general really I mean ranked right now is it seems like I'm afraid rank's gonna die well it's gonna fucking die ranked is for sure gonna die it's gonna take up hard plummet unless I'm trying to enjoy this while I can that's what that's how I feel that's why we're doing 100 hours yeah because once 100 hours is up like if we hit iridescent like cool we did it and I hear there's do you run into cheaters I hear there's a bunch of cheaters at like higher ranks oh dude i've heard that top

250 lobbies are just cheaters cheaters cheating against each how man like yeah someone said they searched solo queue had two cheaters on his team two cheaters on the other team and the cheaters are just talking shit to each other how

oh god Bruce is playing with like uh hook hook hyr parasite yeah saw that and i don't know this is where i'm i'm fucking diving into this shit And he was playing with those four And they were playing against cheaters every game

And they were beating them Really? Could you imagine? How? Did you imagine walling? Pathetic fuck? And it's because like if you get, if you play It's fucking pathetic

If you play people that aren't cheating And are like okay Up to iridescent You get up to ear descent or crimson or whatever And then you play a pro team You're gonna lose Because you suck. Yeah.

Unless you're aim-bodied. Unless you're aim-bodied. You suck. Dude, but if you're walled, like if you have boxes. Right. How are you still going to lose? How are you still not winning? Because you can,

you can tell where. You know, fucking. You can tell where Bruce is, but Bruce knows where you are. He plays the game all day. He knows where he knows where you are 75% of the time. And if he jumps out and you are going toe to toe.

How bad are they? You're losing that fight. But this isn't like halo to where it's like it takes, it's a three second fight. Like, Like this is all that matters. I mean, I guess if you're that piggy shit to fucking cheat, you're going to be that bad. You're horrible.

You're horrible. You're horrendous. Like the people that cheat well, like I'd be beating them in bronze. For sure. And it's like if you go four down. If I'm cheating, I'm not losing to fucking. No. Dash in them.

I don't care if it's dashing them. I can go up again. Against the optic team. No, you will still lose. But do I have a team of four boxes? Maybe. A team of four of you cheating against. Verso optic.

Verse optic on all on Al-Bagra control, you will still lose. I almost guarantee it. I almost guarantee it. I don't think so. A team of you, four of you. Four of you. You're losing. They will get you in a spawn trap.

And then they will, they will snake. And they will know exactly where you're at. Yeah. Like you will still lose. And that's why. The snaking shit. That's why like they were beating cheaters all night last night. Like you can't jump out and beam them off a headdy because they're snaking.

They're snaking and they're still. Bruce is going to out shoot you. He out shoots everyone in the world. Like it doesn't matter if you can see him through a wall. If he knows where you're at, you're dead. And that's like a fucking, that's a scary thought. Because in a because I was I started thinking about it because I was like oh my god like if the if the biggest streamers like Bruce had like 8K viewers yesterday after shots he got off and shots he had like 10 K viewers because he got I think he got the Seth raid and it's like if these guys quit we're all fucked because they have more viewers than anyone and I was like oh my God they're playing cheaters every single game and there's just nothing being done. there's nothing being done about it.

But then I was like, how are they winning? How are they winning 75% of the game when they're playing cheaters every game? And I was like, oh, they're just better. It's a crazy thing to think about it. There's not four cheaters. There's probably not four cheaters. There's probably one cheater. And as long as you kill him, you'll probably die to him a few times.

And you're like, oh my God. But then you call him out and then he's dead. Yeah. Because like if he kills you, if he preams you top maps and you, and you die and you're Bruce and you call out to skies oh he's top map the guy top map's dead yeah like it's that's really that simple

yeah I can see that or I would say 90% of cheating no way no way you're still losing I promise you you're still losing there's no right now until you figure the game out but if they get you in a spawn trap those list thing what you guys think you're you're not I don't think so man there's just I refuse it that's impossible that is impossible you told me

I was thinking shit does scare me though you told me I would spawn into a pro Halo match and not get a kill Did I? Yeah No you get a kill me Probably not See well

You're losing four of you cheating Against the Optics squad Yeah I don't know if you would It depends on the game type But probably you will get one kill max If I spawn in See now I used to think like I remember before I played this game, I was like, if I played, if I played, if I played Optic and or if I subbed, no, maybe it was my chat said, if I subbed in, say I'd just sub in for Hooke and.

And Cod. Yeah. Or I guess this ghosty runner, wait, Shotsie and Hook or runs a subs. Ghostie runs a flex. So I was like, go two subs of flex and a, say I sub in for Goosey. Okay. I'm running an AR. Okay.

we play against whatever fucking team how many kills am I getting on what map I don't know hotel hotel hotel hotel hard point I don't know which

I don't know which hotel is six kills see I don't I thought about it six and four and I just feel like there's no if I have three decent people around me were to where we're not all getting pounded

or would I just be getting pounded so bad everyone's fucked probably that I would say I think I go 12 and

26 you're high you don't think I get 12 no no I mean maybe I remember I played Cod is an easy game to be good at it's 100%

but not against the best but not against the best the best are the best for a reason They are really good. It's like you. It's not skill. Everyone in this game shoot straight. Everyone in this game has good reaction time and can kill the other person.

It's repetition. Like when I play a game, when I play a map that I don't play a lot of, which right now is Mercado Hardpoint. And I spawn in and I run to the hill. I'm dying from I'm dying from so many different places. And then I check the kill cam. And they're just pre. right where I'm coming from and that's where that's where you get put in a blender because you can't even camp to get a kill and it's like I'll be at a yeah

and I'll be at a spot to where I think I can get the kill but they know I'm at that's right and I'm not and they jump I'm not good at snaking so it's like I don't have all that fucking shit figured like even now when I play against just like pretty good people like I can tell if like I think me right me Rambo and like two of his subs they all they're calling out everything yeah but I'm still almost at the top of the leaderboard every time I don't know a call out but it's like my just god-given natural ability to be amazing and anything I touch helps me what was gonna be what was actually gonna be my point before I troll oh when we match someone

good it's like sometimes I will be in a blender to where it's like they're doing decent and I just look I'm like six and I don't know I'm like six and 14 or something I'm just like dude It's not even, I don't have a chance. Like there's not, there's, there has, there's maybe been two opportunities for me to even get a kill. Other than that, it's just they know I'm here. I don't know they are, they're there. When I'm hopping on a corner, I don't know where to look. They know exactly where to look.

I don't know what had to be. I don't, I just think the only time you can really compare people is if they put in the same amount of time. I'm getting clapped by just decent people. Yeah. see I think we're getting me like in George we're getting to a point where we're like we actually if we have a solid fourth we're actually pretty decent

I want to play with you guys yeah that that would be a lot of fun yeah are you playing tonight I'm not going to be playing in night because I don't have a set up yeah I move Wednesday and then once I want something but then I'm going to be out of town all weekend

then Monday I'll be in my new place probably should have my setup. Once I get my setup in my new place, I'll be playing like, I'll probably do random stream, or I'll do my usual morning streams, and then at night I might do like a random stream.

Because like now that I'm not as whipped with my girlfriend and feel like the need to spend every single second with her. It's like, I'm like, you know what? I'd actually be, I'd actually be down for this. Like when she went out of town, it was like I was putting in fucking,

I mean, it did work out. There was like a halo watch party or something, but I was like I was like actually putting in fucking hours and like sort of sort of actually enjoying it like grinding out eight nine hour streams I was like there's not in even now it's like I said I'm not like as whip so it's like I'm a little more bored and I'd just be willing so I would actually be down to play for sure yeah we should I'll be going until then dude I got into a uh got into a a little bit of a Twitter war again oh god you want to hear I don't remember yeah I do I do Okay, so two examples of what happened. I'm on the watch party and I start, you know, just going over like content ideas with Zen. And I was like, I was like, he was like, I love like short form content.

I was like, oh, do you have an editor? And he was like, no, I don't have an editor right now. And I was like, oh, you need to get one. He was like, yeah, I think, I need to figure out who to hire. I was like, bro, on stream, you should do like a like a content series where like you get people to, you know, edit for you. And then you whittle it down to your top editor.

And that's the editor you choose. He was like, dude, that's a great idea. I was like, you make a game show out of it. You know, it gets your chat involved. And like, it's just, it seems like a fun idea. And then it's on, I mean, Seth has, you know, probably like 3,000 people chatting. Like 50K viewers. And so his chat starts spamming no free work, no free work.

It's like, no free work. Like no free work and then I remembered This the other stream. Oh, that's why I saw you tweet. Yeah, you know who QD. Cinderella is. I know of the name. So she she does this the streamer awards thing. Like she does this award show. It's called the streamer awards. Really cool show. It's like basically what the e-sports awards are, but for just specifically streamers. And she wanted to do another contest, but I think it was for it was either for art. or fan art or graphic design or something like that. And she ended up having to cancel it because she got so much backlash on like, people aren't supposed to work for free.

And dog, man, I wish it didn't affect me as much as it did. But from the moment I was on the watch party and I thought about how many people were spamming that. And then I thought how many people, and then I thought about like the thing that happened with QD and she canceled it. And I don't think she was, it will. she was just kind of like, oh yeah, okay, we won't do that.

But me, like, I couldn't, I literally, I don't want to be too overdramatic, but I couldn't sleep. I literally was just like, how, how, how is it, how are we thinking this way? Bro, if I'm an editor, I'm like, low key pissed of like that people are, I'm like, dude, you know how good much, how good of a opportunity this is? like to be a full-time editor to even have the opportunity to just edit one thing and submit it to four free like fuck like it's if it's what they do it's like they should find it sort of fun a good opportunity a good right and and i understand i understand where the where the where the the the the the the the the the the the the saying no free work came from it's an overcorrection for what happened you know for what has what happened 10 years ago in in the creator space because there's people that are blowing up on YouTube and they're or blowing up on Twitch and they're looking for an overlay and the only people instead of you know 20 years ago in order to get like a graphic designer you would have to find like a 30 year old or 40 year old that have been working in the industry for 15 years and but now but then all the sudden you know early 2010s.

You can find a fucking 12, a 15 year old, you know, or a 13 to 16 year old that had found out how to Photoshop. And now all of a sudden, you can just be like, oh, shit, I'll just use this guy for no money. And so now you got like big name people that are, that are be like, oh, yeah, well, you know, you get to make my overlays in I charge you nothing. And that. And you get to say you do overlays for ninja. Right, exactly. And it's like, that's fucked up. And I understand that that is wrong.

Yeah. And if you are a food photographer that makes, that takes the pictures of menus or that take the pictures of food for menus and you've been doing it for 30 years and you're the best in the game. And then fucking, you know, Ruth's Chris comes to you and says, hey, we have a new dish. We want you to photo. but you get to say you work for Ruth Chris. No, fuck. Like, no.

Absolutely not. Yeah. I am, I have done this forever. But if you've never gotten a chance to work for someone and you've been doing this on your own and an opportunity comes up where you get to, you get to put yourself in a competition or you get to put yourself in a, in a situation where you're working for another startup that is under a bigger company,

and you get to grow with the company. fucking work for free. It, dog, it's like almost sad that like the responses that I was seeing, man. And then it's just like, I say something like, you should work for free.

Everyone that has achieved what they wanted to achieve in life has worked for free because they drove. Like, they had the drive to do it. And they, you know, they, that's why interning is a thing. Like every, every, every partnered law, every partnered lawyer that works at a law firm and their name is on the building at one point was an intern. Especially if you don't have experience like that.

Right. Like I interned for P. Diddy. And then from P. Diddy meet all these other people. And then you sort of have like you're sort of in that space from here on out. And now all of a sudden you're a talent manager for Ice Spice. Yeah. You know, five years later. And it's like that's, that's how that works.

That's how that happens. You, you put yourself. There's definitely like a fine line of what. And I do understand it. I understand that if you have value and you're providing value to a corporation that is getting a lot of money in return for your value, you should be paid for it. I am not saying to take advantage of people. I'm not I'm not I'm not saying that on behalf I just think it is a dangerous thing to say don't ever fucking work unless you're being paid that's a dangerous thing to say gotta be conscious of where you're at and it's like if you've been grinding it out if you've really been say you do clothes say you make clothes like graphic design clothes not fucking like so and shit but say you do like graphic designing making clothes like you gotta see where are you at like could you could you make a package for optic or like a drop for optic and just send it and just be like this is what I love to do so I just make a drop for optic and tweet at hex hitch and maniac and bows and just be like I hope they like it if they like it I'll be able to do you're literally explaining how one of one of my buddies his name's gherbs that's how he got hired to optic yeah he made like a

like a couple like patchwork like hoodie designs. And he tweeted him out. And a couple of us saw it. We were like, holy shit, this is dope. Yeah. And now he's on the, he's on the graphics team. He interned here. And now he's hired here.

Yeah. That's how that works. But yeah, that's where you got to be conscious of where am I at. Like obviously the fucking designer for Rick Owens isn't hitting us with some like free. Right. Shit. But like, you got to see sort of where. you're at

and would it long term be beneficial like you should have other you know try to have like other incomes so you don't necessarily desperate to be paid

you should just love the work you do want to do that be conscious of where you're at in if this opportunity is going to be good for you but there are definitely is a fine line of like when you should get paid but you just don't I don't think the the saying should be don't no free work

that shouldn't be the saying the saying should be know your value these people spamming that it's like what what do you do yeah do they even have what I get it they they they 99% of them probably show up to a job and it's like they're doing work they should get paid sure course but if they're not really in this is a different space than that so it's like if they're not really in this space it's like you shouldn't even be like because i would almost i'm sort of behind that saying myself is don't work for free but i'm definitely not in this i don't think in the space that they're saying it to where it's like there's so many good opportunities that could come from yeah working for free so it's like i'm definitely i understand it completely and it's like i'm almost

behind it myself but i'm not behind that at all i understand i understand i'm not behind saying at all don't work for free is not doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense don't you take advantage of makes sense if you if you are if if if you're working for subway as a graphic designer and they're not paying you stop working stop doing stuff for them because they can afford to pay you what you're worth if you know if you're working for them and providing them with value but if if if you're in if if a comp if these competitions to to edit a short form TikTok are getting eradicated from from the creator space because people are saying because there's such a drive behind don't work for free you're doing nothing but taking away an opportunity from other people yeah that want to do this yeah like if if i had said to hector when i was doing optic intel and and i don't actually i don't i'm not going to say this because i don't like using my example because people are just going to say well not everyone has an optic not everyone has an optic not everyone has has a hector that not ever and and I kept getting not everyone lets you play video games full

time in mommy's basement I kept I got like hundreds of people saying that like mom's basement what if I got I got I got I left how I left my house at 18 you know what I mean like I'm not using myself as an example because it's not about me it's about every everyone that I work with almost had that scenario and almost everyone that inspired me had that had that situation Casey nice that left home and and was a fucking dish or a new he did like newspaper or like yeah he was like a uh uh fucking what is it when you wash dishes a dishwasher or something like that like was slept on somebody's couch and like did shit for free for a long time until he eventually worked so hard that he sold a show and it's like there are so many exists.

of people just being obsessed with it and I feel like I just wish I wish I could like explain exactly what's on my mind I don't know it's no I definitely get it and it's not like dude I would what I was saying earlier is like what if you were one of those people would be like yeah like I would kill this or right like this competent you don't see people going on Gordon Ramsey's top chef expecting to get paid because they're going to produce a show and make money off the people. It's like, no, this is a opportunity that thousands and tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands and Rihanna didn't get paid for the Super Bowl halftime show.

Let me say that again. Rihanna. See, I'm thinking like, damn, if I'm Rihanna, I don't know if I'm doing that. But if that is like a, that's a memorable ass moment. so and to be able to say you did a half time show is pretty epic the searchant the searches for fenty went up 850 percent 850 percent yeah point proven I think that's point proven right yeah I think you win that's point proven you win they lose and there's going to be people all be like well if I was Rihanna motherfuckin you are not Rihanna like you know what I mean if I was Rihanna there's no

way I'm doing the half time. My immediate monkey brain immediately thinks like, damn, if I'm Rihanna, I don't know if I'm fucking doing that. But then it's like, but that's, that's me. If I would have brought out my phone right there and said like, don't work for free, Rihanna or I don't know how the fuck this Rihanna work for free and I'm immediately tweeted. But it like, you got to sit, you got to think it's like, oh, but her other shit goes up 850%.

Like you, it's all about. You got your long term stock. If you got, if you didn't. spam that in Zinney's chat. You won the competition and then you got to work for Zinney the next few years and that eventually Zinney blows up to be bigger than Skump and then he has multiple people and you're you're the Roger looking over these multiple people that are then doing what you used to do and then now you have a full time.

All because you applied yourself. All because you grinded it out for maybe a day or two with this video and put it up because this is what you love to do. And if it doesn't work out, if you lose, it doesn't work out. But now you have a video that you can show someone else. Like, how is, come on, guys. Man, oh my God, bro. It literally was like making me sick.

And I did see you tweet that. I was like, what, what now, man? Yeah. Oh, dude. Because I, I don't like being like conversational anymore anymore. I used to like it. But did you, did you? But like, just the response, just people,

hear what they want to hear. Were you replying? Like, to individual people? To some people. Because I said, I said specifically in that in that tweet, I said, I said, apply yourself outwork your peers and don't get taken advantage of. Like I said, don't get taken advantage of. And people were saying, oh, so you want to pay people an exposure? And I said, no, I just said, don't get paid, don't get taken advantage of paying an exposure is, I think that's probably a thing of the past good but like if just because you're working for someone for free does not mean you

are getting paid and exposure sometimes it means you're building your resume or you're putting yourself in a scenario to be surrounded by people that are also grinding towards what you were grinding towards like true our editor true is really good friends with a lot of editors out there he's good friends with Swapa who is courage's editor and do you think if and when I when I am trying we're trying to figure out an editor for TST or now True works for Optic as well and so it's like if Swapa doesn't say true is the true is the like he's one of the best people in this industry whenever we're looking for an editor then we are like okay fuck yeah and how many how many hundreds of hours has true worked for free trying to grind up and build up his his resume as well and it's just it doesn't like

it doesn't matter how many how it doesn't i think what what like makes me the most sad really is it it doesn't matter how many examples i provide people are just going to be like well you have a more blessed lifestyle than i do so my my situation doesn't apply and it's like you already lost it's like your situation doesn't apply because you haven't applied right you already lost. Yeah. That mentality is a losing mentality. Like don't don't go. Don't cover someone's job at fucking Walmart and not get paid for it. Don't do that. Yeah. But

if you if you're not taking certain opportunities because you're not getting paid for them that will in the if you keep taking them further your career. Dude it's like heartbreak. It's like what? You think someone's taking advantage of you. and it like hurt your ego when it's like really that person's not even thinking about that about it like that

they're going to find someone regardless so if this is a good opportunity there are some situations where like people have to understand that yes you are your your work is worth something but also at the end of the day you aren't important in the grand scheme of things

you have to earn your importance you have to build up your resume to the point where you are important in that situation in that scenario. I mean, you're important as a human being, as a regular person. Yes, you're an important. You have worth.

But in the, if, if I was like, I'm a professional basketball player now, like, no, I'm not. I am not playing basketball again until I get paid. There are millions of people that are better than me. You know what I mean? Like, if you are like, I make music, there are millions of people that are better. I want to edit. I want to make graphic designs. I want to be a photographer.

There are millions. I want to be a lawyer. there are millions of people better than you. You have to work your way up to be the best. If you want to be the best, you have to work to be the best. I don't know.

I think well said. I think we can end it by saying you hitch wins and hitch wins. It's not a win and a lose. Hitch wins and the rest of, you win this argument. I'm not,

I don't want to win. Do you have, yes, red hot chili peppers, by the way. Dude, can you give me some fucking thug shit? Okay. No, don't change it. What it? Red hot chili peppers. Chris Rice. Um, red hot chili peppers

Let me see. Did you listen to my, uh, yeah, I did. I listened to it while running. Uh, what is it, Mad Villany? Yeah. It's, it's, uh, his multi-syllable use is insane. Yeah. It's, it's insane. Like, if you like, typed the sentences out and sort of, oh, it's, like, have you seen those where people would be like Eminem's lyrics and then it's like, Highlight, yeah. Like with that shit, it would probably be insane. He said,

he said, I got more. Syllable for syllable. I was, I was, because I was running while listening to it. And so every once in a while,

I'd like crack a smile. Like how good something was. I think at one point he said, I got more soul than a sock with a hole. Yeah. And of course, like five bars before that, he's topping a rolls,

hop in a drop in a bowl. You nothing but a drop in a bowl. I got more. more whole I got more soul than a sock with a hole it's like what this that's why he's like your favorite rappers favorite rapper super original uh just a dope artist our IP doom all right what are we what are we listening to this week by the way an album that came out in um 2002 by the red hot chili peppers and then absolutely amazing it's called by the way by the way by the way red hot chili peppers go check it out i'm gonna go i'm sure i'm

gonna go put it on on stream right now yeah all right guys thank you guys so much for watching another episode of the firecast episode 897 we are so close to 900 even closer to our 1,000th of this episode thank you guys so much for watching matt craig played out for music