The Flycast - Why Crimsix Hated The Scuf House | The Flycast Ep. 138

Episode Date: February 23, 2025

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Dude, in the sim race, I can't even fucking look up. Like, my widescreens, like, right here, center. Yeah, yeah. And then I have a monitor up here where, like, chat is. I can't even look up and re-chat. Like, if you have to sneeze, you gotta be like, like, dude, if, like, if anyone, if there's, like, a professional, like, hate watcher in sim racing, dude, I, you know, listen to this.

Time your subs and donations with breaking zones. Because there's times where all, like, you're the ding. I'm like, holy fuck, I got a donation first time in like a year, man. And I'll fucking look up and then send it straight into the wall. I'm like, shit. And then I look up and it's like just fucking a dollar. I'm saying, you suck, bitch. I like it.

Why do I like it? Like, what's the true? I actually like the phones. What's the true meaning behind liking these headphones? You like to hear yourself speak. I don't know if I like to hear myself, though. Actually, sometimes I do get watched. Do you ever watch the flycast or podcast you're on?

Me? Like, even you, Krim, if you do like a fucking eavesdrop or you're on the optic pod, do you ever listen to it back? Just to make sure you're like... Sometimes. Are you ever just impressed with yourself? Like, I'm fucking good. No, usually it's opposite.

sick. You just hate yourself? I'm just like, fuck, dude. Talk clear. Like, stop fucking using these stupid filler words or... What about you, Hitch? Are you critical of yourself on pods? I mean, I'm trying to get better. What about your around, like, around the bar, I guess? Oh, I've never watched the ease and care. Because you and I just talk. But like... Yeah, I don't really care either. I don't give a fuck about it. this pod No, I care about the pod. I don't ever like critique myself on this pod.

But like around the bar. Around the bars, yeah. Like you watch them back. Yeah, if I ever like stumble in the middle of a question, I'm like, fuck. Really? Yeah. Dude. But I don't think it's things that other people would notice.

Maybe. I might. Yeah, but you would notice because you knew I would be tweaking about it. Well, you know, I'd be like, I would get off on it. I would get off on it. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. You guys got to let me know if I say dude a lot.

You said, you say do a lot. I do? Yeah. Fuck. Do you? I was about to say dude again. Fuck. Oh, shit.

So all my, all the European like Simracer guys. Yeah. Like I joined the Discord call. And they all go like literally collective like nine or ten of them go, dude. That's pretty good. I just said it now. That's pretty good. Now I'm gonna fucking, now I'm gonna.

Now I'm going to notice when I say it. Your sim racing clan. Yeah, dude. There it is again. There it is again. Yeah, dude. I mean, well, they're sim racers, but they're also, like, real-life, like, pros as well. Like, Max will be in there and it'll just join up.

Dude. Is that usually how it goes? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like pros in real life or sim racing pros? Yeah, they actually have a lot of respect for sim racers. Really? High level sim racers.

Hell, I would never. If I was a real driver and this little sim gearbox nerd, the fucking thinks he's on monet level? Dude, it's intense. Like the... Like my sort of second coach, I probably go to this guy like the second most. He gets paid to coach a... They're called prototypes.

Okay. And these cars are like... Like two million. plus and and like just one season in the car is like $15 million and they're all like Porsche paid or like you know Accura paid like like high end like imagine how do I how do I say this imagine like a pro player in the cod league getting private lessons from I don't even like a halo coach or something like yeah or something like that but but there's a gtip driver that gets lessons from one of my sim racing coaches.

And he's like highest level. Like I'm talking this is probably like in GTP there's probably 12 cars. What's GTP mean? That's so it's like. Is that the CDL of racing? Well, Matt, can you pull it up? You guys are going to laugh at this. He's not locked.

I knew it from the fucking beginning. He's chilling. When I got that elevator at 10.03 and I said, saw Matt Craig walk behind me. I was like, I called him at 955. Really? Yeah, and I was just hoping to hear his car,

and he answered, I heard his car, and I was like, okay, good. Because what you don't want to, the worst is when, like, you think your boys run in late, and you call him, and you hear. You. Type in, Porsche.

Oh, yeah, EM, over here. No, no, just erase all this. Yeah. Porsche, 963. I'm sick of this driving. shit. Yep. And now, dude, he

drive, like a real life driver of that contacts, like my sim racing. Your sim racer. Yeah. One of my sim racing coaches for help in that. Can you break that down of how that is even

a thing? It's because the high level sim racing guys are fucking aliens. Like, what does that mean though? That's what they're called. Like, the highest level guys. Ali aliens? No, just aliens. Yeah. Like they just non-stop driving all day every day.

I don't know how their knees don't give out. But they're one like a, it's not real. Yeah, but Nick, if you have real, I guess how realistic is it? It's probably 95% or like 0.95 to 1. What's the difference? The only difference is like where the tire buildup happens. So, you know, when, like, people are driving, like, rubber from the tires will dig into the concrete, right? So the typical, like, the line that everyone takes, that will have a lot more grip.

Where in the sim, it doesn't really matter. What would be? Like, everywhere has grip, but in real life, like, if you go off that line, you have less grip. This is a fucked question. Yeah. But, because I know, I don't think Dana would do this in the first place. But what would be more annoying? Say you're in the middle of cod scrims.

Yeah. And you get a knock like, hey, the dog pooped. You got to do it? Yeah. Or in the middle of a sim race. Oh, I'm locked. I'm sitting there. Like, there's no disturbance.

If I'm in a cod scrim and that happens, right? I'll take out my earbud, right? And just be like, Dana, like, I'll get it after this map. Right. Got you. In a sim race. You're not like, you clean it the fuck up. No, I won't even.

I will, I won't even pull out my earbud. There will, there is, do you do something rude? Dude, I can't even in a sim race. Takes his hand off the steering.

Dude, in a sim race, I can't even fucking look up like my wide screen is like right here, center. Yeah, and then I have a monitor up here where I, where like chat is. I can't even look up and re-chat. Like if you have to sneeze,

you got to be like, like, dude, if, like if anyone, if there's, like a professional like hate watcher and sim racing dude

you know listen to this time your subs and donations with breaking zones because there's times where all like you're the ding I'm like like holy fuck I got a go I got a donation first time in like a year man and I'll fucking look up and then send it straight

into the wall I'm like shit and then I look up and it's like just fucking a dollar saying you suck bitch shit. I still don't fucking understand how even just out of like

maybe an ego like what are they what's a fucking sim racer like what's he teaching? What's a lesson look like? Dude so to teach a real driver

Okay so put it this way right I'll try to put this in gaming terms. You guys know like Dota and leave. I mean, I know of it. Do you understand the concept where it's like,

it's not really, it's not day to day. It's not day to day. Kill tower. Right? Like it's all knowledge based. It's not really like show up and like call duty you can lose

one day when the next day. Like it's not really who's playing better. It's who who understands what they're doing. I guess like who has tactics and strategies. Like driving is similar to that. People like the public will be like, oh, reaction time.

this reaction time now i'm like like no your your main opponent in racing is the clock like reaction time will help when you're like dodging cars this and that but like how you actually get fast is like knowing you know the the mind to like body connection of like like it's it's it's like a dance between your your feet and your hands yeah they have to be insane spiritual shit if they're well it's it's knowledge based off feeling and that's what the sim racing rigs like Like, that's why they drive 10 hours a day. So what do you think, what do you think the Sim racing coach is telling him? I mean, there's probably a lot.

Like, I guess if I was, you know, if you're breaking it down and cod, you're saying like, rotation. If they go, if they go through a corner, like, first of all, a lot of guys don't use miles per hour. They use KPH because there's higher numbers so you can get like an exact value better. so like where one mile an hour might be like 1.7 KPAH. So it's like the real life guy might go through a corner at 93 miles an hour, right? Or whatever it is in KPH. I'm still trying to figure that shit out.

Where he might do it at 93, right? But the Sim Racing coach can do it at 94. I get what you're saying. So it's, and it visually looks. looks the exact same. Right. But you look at the data and you're like, fuck, you just lost two tens. So they know like.

On the straight because of one mile an hour. So coaches be breaking down like data and shit. Dude, I know to look at data now. Like I'm actually like I know what the fuck I'm doing now when it comes to that, which is. He's won three races. Like I've talked to, JP, JP, right? I did like a little little tiny Discord call of like showing them what I'm looking at. And JP's like, whoa, this is really interesting.

Yeah. And JP's a fucking mega nerd. Yeah. Yeah. He don't look like a mega nerd, but I guarantee you. I promise you he is. He's a handsome, he's a handsome dude for a mega nerd. Yeah.

He should be, like, talked about as, like, more handsome than he, like, it should be, like, kind of a talk. It should be. Where are we going with this, Nick? We should start, let's fuck him. I think that's where we should do what we should do. I just think there should be more appreciation for a good-looking nerd fuck gamer in this world. You know, J.P. built his own program.

Yeah. You know, he showed me it. About what? Spons. Yeah. He's got algorithms for data. He's got like multiple different. He should be doing some shit like selling it.

Dude, I don't know why he's not like putting patents on it and selling it to call a ditty. He should be. Imagine codcaster? the fucking heat map of kills and deaths yeah you were like what should I do dude yeah I'm looking for a fucking come up you know what I actually was thinking I was like I wonder if I can get in on this I'm just like no I can see it in your brain it was very obvious

I wasn't even listening I was like you remember the the the halo bungee dot net yeah bro that thing was so ahead of it so ahead of its time it's looking at your old car bro you could go back I forget they took it down, but... You could go back decades. Yeah, a decade ago and look at your team hardcore match. Like, imagine there's a thing called bungee.net. And I think it was only Halo, at least for the time.

Yeah. But I don't know when it came out, say 2005 or something. Who's a website where you go, you type in your gamer tag. And you can see every single game you've ever played on your account. Like, you just type in the gamer tags. You can see... The carnage reports. The death map, like where you died in this game, where you got kills in this game, like how many assists you had, what weapon you used, what was your accuracy, like, it was like all the modern day.

Is Halo 2, Halo 3? Breakdown. Yeah. Yeah. So, but like you got to, like you think of your best times in Halo 2. Like, God, that was so fun. And I'm thinking like 2006, 2007, even like 2005 you can go back. But like 2006, 2007, this is like.

2015 I could just type in my old gamer tag and like I could see the oh I play demon D in this team hardcore match or like me demon D pain X factor we're like running threes and hardcore and one like 10 games straight like you could just see all the fucking stats and then and then back before the days of like cell phones and stuff yeah I don't know if you did this nick we would always print out fucking bungee dot net reports and bring it in a school at lunch the next No, I didn't do that. I didn't do that. You never did that.

That's insane. Were you a Halo guy? Or I know you're a Halo guy, but like a early Halo 1, Halo 2 guy? I played Halo 2 a lot. Okay. I got to... Like team hardcore and shit? Yeah, I got to level 34 before the patch.

So, like, I was already fucking good. Like, I'm talking, remember when it was impossible, like, over 2 was like a fucking 39 or whatever. Yeah. Like, that was when I was a 34. Like, I remember being like a 22. and just like, God, it's so hard. After, after like 28, it got so far. Like, that was the best ranking system of all time.

There was like two 50s ever. Yeah, I think Elamai was a strong side. We're the only like, the just 50s. That was like post-patch when they made it easier to rank up, right? I think pre-patch was the best ranking system ever because they made it. So like these symbols, right, once you got from like 40, Bring those symbols up, man. Let's bring them a minute.

Yeah, 42 to 50. It was like almost theoretically impossible. Like if you had those symbols you were hacking. What? And then they would just fucking ban them. Because you would have to win. You could win six games in a row and then you lose one. Like you basically just wasted four hours over your time.

Yeah. Yeah. Jesus. It was so good though because like every matchmaking game was so good. Oh, those symbols. Like that's like that shit Oh man So 40

My highest was a 47 So you have the sun Like the dark sun The dark sun Yeah My highest was a 47 I think Demon D was a 48 Didn't really

I think Elamite and Strongside Were the only like 49 Elamite and Strong side Only 50s Like at least like legit Because there's my fuckers I'd be saying That was a 50 and team's layer.

It was the most, it was the most serious shit, dude. Like, like people, I would cry. If you got past, if you got past level 30, right? You had to four stack. You would, like, not risk going in without a four stack. Right. And people would just go in and you match full, it would be like team versus team. Yeah.

And I, and I remember it took 10 minutes to find a game. Yeah, that was the issue, though. So I don't know, I don't know if that type of matchmaking system would, work because it was so fun. You'd like, oh, I got a game, we got a game, we got a game. And then you see who it is and it's like hysteria, perplexity, fucking Gregor, uh, and it's just timely as brute. And then it's like me, anthrax, demon D.

So they're just basically team scrims and you have to win. Yeah, but, but imagine playing wagers, but you're searching and like, but people care about winning that game because if you lose, it's so much XB loss. Right. The penalty was insane. Like, you could win 14 and lose 2, and you want to rank up. Yeah. Like, it was so much more than like.

And there was no way to tell either. Like, so you would just win, win, win, win, win, lose, win, win, win. And you'd be like, what the fuck? Like, fucking rank me up, bitch. Oh, so it wasn't like an XP bar? No. Oh, what? Yeah, you never, you didn't really know.

So you were addicted, dude. Like, everyone was addicted to this shit. Dude. Holy shit. It was so sick. And you want to talk about like the problem with challengers nowadays, right? They can't ever play against pros. Like if they implemented a ranking system like this, like talent would fucking show.

Yeah. Yeah. It would show because all the pros are like, dude, why? It's almost like, yeah, you could do a pro scrim, right? But why not fucking do a pro scrim on rank play? Yeah. And you know what I'm just bored fucking. You'll see.

See, back then it was like you would see random squad squad up. So imagine just like you're searching the Cod. If Cod had this and then you match Shotsie, Hydra, Scrap, Dashy. So like if two people are only two people who are like, people would just like play with each other. And it was just, it was just so competitive and so fun. I don't, I don't. And so the coolest thing like. Just the X, just fucking Xbox.

So remember what Nick said like. Yeah, just Xbox. Xbox. There was not even 360. He's just Xbox. There was, what, you said two people got level 50? Pretty sure I only strong side didn't either mine. That's insane.

When you... Neighbor might have been like a 49 or something. When you factor in how many people play Halo, right? Yeah. Two people. Two. At least in the team hardcore playlist. In the team hardcore playlist.

I queued up team hardcore yesterday or two days ago. There wasn't anybody on it. On Halo? Halo 3, yeah. But are you doing some fucking video? I was doing a video. that's why I had it downloaded, but I was just like kind of playing just because it's fun.

What level were you? I had never played one before. Like Halo? Yeah. Couldn't find a match. Halo 3 made it like, it was so easy to get a 50, dude. Yeah, people, I was fucking terrible in Halo and I got a 50, no problem. In Halo 3?

Yeah. Yeah. Whenever I hear Halo kids talk about Halo, they always, or matchmaking, they always talk about Halo 2. Yeah. So you know what's insane? the i racing ranking system is like the penalty for losing is it might be worse than this really yeah so like what's losing yeah in a race like say okay so it works on like a e-load like number scale right

okay so imagine someone with 10,000 elo right they they join a race which only happens once an hour sometimes once every two hours right so you fuck up you gotta wait damn um so say someone with 10,000 is in a like the average it's called strength of field

right say the average elo is like 4,000 right say someone crashes them and then they get disqualified or they have to like stop their car right they will lose probably 160 elo

and and and if they just won the race they might get plus six what yeah damn so if if you crash so if someone fucking crashes you right it's not even your fault you could lose like weeks damn worth the worth of fucking is there ever situations where someone doesn't like someone else oh they they take it seriously it's like it's super serious like I'm there's no I'm like just rangers in a matchmaking game. Just fuck that. No,

if you do that once, like you can get permaband. Yeah. And the way, as you should. And the way it works too is like when you sign up for the membership on high racing,

like they match your in-game name to the name on your credit card. So there's no, there's no creating fucking ringers. There's no doing this. Like the only ringers I've seen is when you use like your brother sisters or parents like credit card.

What? Yeah. Next level. Yeah. That must take so fucking long if you, like people actually built, like to build up a ringer account. Oh yeah. Like people actually do that?

Yeah. Yeah. Why would you have a ringer account in racing? Just because of that scenario, right? Say you want to, you want to have some fun. You don't feel like sweating. And there's no, there's no like, there's custom. imagine custom lobbies and outside of that it's only ranked yeah so that's what ira yeah yeah so

so usually it's like okay i want to have some fun but i'm not that fast in this car right now let me use my ringer right or you know hey i'm um i want to do this race but i don't really want to try my ass off like let me get on a ringer so no one ever goes like Tokyo drift on there what do you mean by that just like no no I mean they're not gonna yeah just you know what I mean yeah you know what I mean

they're they're not gonna risk it it's the same thing as Halo 2 like you're not gonna go you're not gonna search unless you're fucking ready to go yeah once you get that match it's time to fucking lock it in

no mom I can't do anything no one was like streaming back then either like I'd like to watch I mean I guess technically there was streaming I'd like to watch like a Halo 2 matchmaking session. You could probably find some. Do you think TBS owns the right to all those Halo 2 tournaments?

Probably. TBS? Yeah, that's how I found out. I thought it was fucking TBS. No, no, TNT? TNT maybe? I thought it was USA. I thought it was the ESPN.

Definitely was not ESPN. Wasn't M-O-G on ESPN? I swear to God, it was. Wait, what did you say? TNT? TNT? It might have been on that. Are you talking about like, yeah, like the MLT matches? Yeah, yeah. I remember it was in the 50 range on the public channels or the cable. Holy cheese. No, but the 50 range for me was the good channels. Yeah. And that's how I found out about pro gaming to begin with was watching a Halo 2 tournament on cable television. Who was your, who did you,

First person ourselves, T-Sprud? Who were you first in love with? Paul's. What do you mean? Like, who did you see? Why'd you say that? Like, I saw T-S. What do you say like that?

Because that's how I felt. Mine was probably either T-squared. T-squared, probably, yeah. I was like, this guy's the fucking man. He's like, no, my, fuck. He's from the streets. He's, and he's way hot. He's fucking way hotter.

He's way hotter than me, dude. He saggs his pants. Like this is, I love sagging my pants. He threw his gum at someone. I was like, this is what the shit I'm talking about. Halo to Team Slayer level 44 high gameplay. Two people lag out. Who are these people?

Okay. Let me see. Choke on my BR. KS. I got a baby. I actually recognize that name. Choke on my BR. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure that I was actually like, was that a pro? I remember AYB Frenzy. I remember that name a little bit. Wasteur. Chokele my BR, I'm pretty sure. I remember that, Nate. Nick, when you were playing, did you ever play with the big controllers?

The big Xbox controllers? Really, with the black and white button up top? Yeah, yeah. I don't know if I... Did that translate into Halo 2? No. Because I remember... No.

No, I couldn't have been. Halo 2 was just a small... Yeah, that had to have been Halo 1. Yeah, Halo 1, I played with that. What are they called... The Duke. The Duke. Yeah, the Duke.

That's like my favorite. Yeah! They called it the Duke. The Duke. The Duke. Look at that shit, bro. Fuck yeah. So big.

It's like a console. Xbox Series S put out a Duke controller. Like in a... Bro, was Washy clawing with these? No. Look at that shit. I'm convinced like... It's a hundred bucks now?

No, that's a... That's for Xbox one... But I think Xbox actually put one out too. Matt. I don't know. Wait, so who was your first? Oh, is that one? Okay.

I guess that was your introduction, this was your introduction to e-sports? Yeah. Halo 2? It was probably, probably T-N-T squared. Really? Yeah. Did you have, did you ever, like, for example, do you remember watching, like, what about montages? Do you have a favorite Halo 2 montage?

Because mine was the RS shook one. I didn't, I wasn't into it all that much. while she had some good shit Yeah, while she had one, right? I think he had a few. With like the name on the bullet and shit. Yeah, that one, yep. Yeah.

Dude, I remember everyone's like, fuck, how did they do that? No, I know. If you look back onto it now, you're like, oh shit. It was terrible. They'd get a double kill. Or they would just stick someone and like, that would be a clip in the montage.

Dude, Tush texted me, Tush texted me and said, I watched a, Let me see exactly what he said. He said, I watched a Hex monower for two sniping montage for 15 years ago today, and it was so bad. I mean, but what, what, six million views? Yeah, six million views. Like, what the hell?

I mean, it's fucking with anything. Like, you go back and you watch Jordan play, and it's just like, really? This was the best. That was what you guys did back then? Yeah. What's up, Hex? I know you're listening. Just fuming.

Also, the kid at the top is level 44. I wonder what year this one. Wait a second. Oh, this was Team Slayer. Is that, was that the Noob playlist? Yeah. I mean, it was fun, but it was definitely more than new. There was radar.

There was radar. Yeah, this fucking. That's the only. Team hardcore was where the real. That's the most annoying part about playing it, like, like, just casually playing HALA 3. Because I've been playing it just, I've been playing it, like, I've been playing it, when I'm talking with Alexis and stuff. And, yeah, there's just,

radar is just so cheap, like, so cheese. So lame. Why? Why is it? And back then there was no... There was no sprint either. I think radar and sprint isn't necessarily all that bad. But with no sprint and radar, like...

Yeah. It was bad, bad. Beginning of Halo 5, there was radar. You had a secondary assault rifle. I hate it. Oh, you could zoom in. You could zoom in with the... Remember the zoom in on Halo 5 with the assault rifle?

I barely put it up on. You like fucking... It wasn't like an actual zoom in. It was like it would like snap in and then you shot your little... It was like a fucking machine gun. Like... Dude.

I'm so mad I had to play that Halo 5. Then of course I retire. They take it out and shit. So you... Your first e-sports love was Halo 2. Yep. Then when the fuck do you get in the cot after that? I'm sure

Did you talk about all this on the eavesdrop? I don't know Well I initially started on Counterstrike But I didn't know about Eastports Fucking really

Like 2004 The first game I ever bought Was Counterstrike Condition Zero When I was like Eight years old Fucking Target employee Fucked up

I bought I got it Because I like to cover right PC game yep he said how old are you little man dude dude it was fucking rated M and the target lady just let me walk out of it at age like seven or eight

what I've loaded up I have never even heard of condition zero I never even heard of it global offense so it's counter strike one point three technically okay so like you know people would be like oh 1.6 yeah if you didn't

Played before 1.6, you were a fucking burger or all that shit. I'm like, or you're not an OG. I'm like, I was like, what was condition zero? And someone told me at 1.3, I'm like, fuck, I'm old, dude. Okay, so I was, I was 11. So I was 11 when I bought this game. Just grinding on PC? Yeah, and then I loaded up.

Finally, I got in a multiplayer, and that's where back in the day, like, people had spray. I always tell this story. I shouldn't, but. people had like custom spray paint right that you could spray whatever you the fuck you wanted and back when I was you know a little Timmy 11 years old people would just spray

porn all over the walls and that was my first first encounter with porn as well was not even just porn just tits so I was that guy at the start of the round if someone sprayed the wall with that I might you know I was like

I was making sure my parents weren't around I would sit there just at the start of the round not buy anything and I'd be I'd be that one character Yeah with the with the fucking default With your little 11 year old wang Just staring at The whole team would get fucking pissed They'd be like dude play

Just 11 year old crimson What are you doing? And I would even walk forward Right and just to get a better view A closer look But I wasn't, so the whole team would die, right? The terrorists come in, wipe me out, and they'd be like, dude, he's not AFK. What the fuck is he doing?

Just looking at it. It's just looking at it. It's their fault at that point. How would they, how could they get that on the game? Like, well, you just upload like a picture as your spray? Yeah. Like, yeah. There's had to be some fucking insane shit, dude.

No, no, no, no, but no, yeah. I mean, dude, there probably was. There probably was. Dude, but I was 11 years. I was 11 years. I wasn't thinking porn. I was thinking fucking swastikas and shit. Dude, I was 11 years old.

I didn't even know. I probably saw some fuck shit, didn't even realize it. But when I saw tits, I, yep, see? There's groom. That's crumb there on the left. That's a little girl. That's me. That's what I was doing.

How to make and fix a custom. System spray. Holy shit. Yeah, they got that out of there, huh? Oh, dude, that's way out of there. But that was, so I went from Mario Kart. Yeah, I mean, wait. To this. It's on the wall.

To this. And I was like, dude. Yippee. This shit. I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, FPS is fucking incredible, man. Oh, yeah. You get a frag out and see. You might get a special surprise.

You get a frack out. Why did you keep playing Counter Strike? I didn't even know about, I mean, that's, yeah, you're just, you're just playing casually. It's not like you like, my brain is so warped of just thinking like, oh, if you play a game. Yeah. You automatically start thinking like e-sports and shit. Well, dude, that's why. Because I started on that, everything on console just felt easy in comparison.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. every like when I hopped on like started on a halo 2 then when cod 2 came out and I was actually talking about it and a little clip I just did you see the Xbox 360 stand right uh over there yeah like that was in game stops and all that shit that's when I actually first started playing console was the cod 2 demo they had for the Xbox like 360 yeah and like Like Kmartin shit.

Yeah. I feel like I didn't really know you were. Did I know? I mean, it was so long ago. I was thinking, I'm thinking like when you were playing Halo. Did I know you were a Cod Pro? Were you the best at Cod when you switched to Halo? Not really.

No. What were you? Scump just around you? No one was around. No one was around. The only person. The only person who was like around back then? was like clay

nameless shit um Pac man Pac man yeah Pac man yeah Pac man knew all about me from uh

shit he never beat me damn even when it was a shrike no no I didn't play me counter strike uh yeah no I can we get the tits off the screen yeah you might keep looking over that it's distracting back guys it's just distracting yeah fucking distracting

distracting master's been staring at it since we started talking Yeah, but It was like I bought I remember buying Cod 4 and Halo 3 At the same day What was the game right before

Okay so you didn't compete in Halo 3 I played Gears I bought Cod 3 and Gears of War Played Cod 3 for like That was the fucking That was the worst game ever created Gears of War No no Cod 3

I played Cod 3 for 45 minutes I was like yeah I'm gonna try Gears of War Tried Gears of War Tried Gears of War I did not touch COD 3 ever again Yeah

Gears was cool Wait typing COD 3 I want to see what It's horrible Dude it was Is that the worst COD? There was fucking Motorcycles

I don't think I've ever heard of Anyone mention the words Cod 3 No it's People forget about it Cod 3 This might have been the cod I fucking played

Like what year was this If it was like 2007 2008 I'm gonna I'm gonna Dude, the problem with this game was your rank would reset every single fucking map. Oh, was there Sprint?

So you would have to level up. Was there? Wait, was this the first game with Sprint? I think this was the first game with Sprint. Oh, damn. Damn, there was. Yeah, even when we played Cod 2 the other day, it was so... That's crim right there.

Creming. That may have been me. But see how he's a private level one, after every single man. map it would reset the hell and these maps were designed for vehicles as well like dude the little motorcycle with the side bike thing the fucking tank vehicles in 66 or a v8 cod is just like what the fuck are we doing yeah so this game came out so what you played cod too well i no i never owned it i would just go to the game stop and just fucking play it over and over and over and over and over what year was cod too?

That was like it was like a launch game of the 360. Yeah it was yeah 10 5th damn uh that was only 20 years ago and hex was grinding this shit

grined all right so so what was the game you went you went pro in? cod four is that a good cod cod I think number one like ultimately

it's really good really good yeah cod four changed Let's God 4 look like, man. Okay, okay, so what, Cod 4? I don't know when the fuck that came out, but every single Cod from Cod 4 onward has copied Codd 4.

I'm talking like that's when, dude, going from Cod 3, the worst game ever fucking created to... Dude, it is crazy how much, like, light years better. This game is from Cod 3. It's probably the best jump ever. In any game. Yeah. So you had perks, you had ranks, you had customization.

What else did you have? Kill streaks. I totally see Hitch playing this game. So you had like four massive things that just every single cod from this point onward has copied this game. Yeah. Everything. Like this game set the standard. This is Call of Duty.

Like there hadn't been a Call of Duty yet. This is Call of Duty. This is Cod 1. Cod 2 basically, like Cod 2 was. good, but it's, it, it, it almost looks like a counterstrike, like, you want to be. Like, like, if you play Search and Destroyin' Cod 2, if you

got, if you got, uh, like, if you're going to defuse the bomb, you can swap your pistol for their SMG, and now you go into the next round with both those guns. Yeah. So now you have an SMG and an AR going into the next round. Like, it doesn't reset every round. Like, it just

it's seemed like, uh, like this game was so fucking good. Very, very, very, like, Like, let's just take Counterstrike and make it for consoles. So this is the first cod you fell in love with? Yeah. Oh, fuck yeah. And you just were addicted from this point?

Dude, and it wasn't just me either. This was like the only cod where the Pro League ran on like two years. We did two years on Cod for. Oh, really? Yeah. Only time in history. Only time in history where like a new game came out and we didn't swap over. Could you imagine if they did that instead of Ghosts it was another year?

of Black Ops 2. You can't wall bang that. You can't fucking wallbanger. Hey man, it's just trying to. Ghost was good in retrospect, but at the time Did people complain about ghosts when they played it? Oh, what?

It was like the worst release ever. But you're coming off, you're coming off the best cod ever made. And then you get ghosts and what people forget is ghost public matches were probably one of the worst ever.

Jesus. Yeah. Oh, yeah, the maps were The release maps, like this, not the competitive maps. I think that may have been why this game was so fucking good. There was so many good maps. Like, even the shit maps were good. Right. Even the shit maps were good. Dude, that's what I think about Halo 2.

Fucking downpour. But downpour is the shit map, and I'd play downpour over other shit. Dude, downpour and like GB match S&D, your team. Like, this is when I first met Clay was on this, like, game battles. team with like 12 people. Yeah. And but we're all like godlike. And we had a record of like

180 and zero. And I just remember seeing like the random match generation of like downpour and you're thinking like fuck dude. Like dude it could rain the wrong way and I could not I could miss this character and now our record's gone.

It was nerve wracking as fuck. Dude bro. These maps are the worst. That map? Bro. That map was bad. I think I remember that. Keep going down.

It gets worse. Horrible. No. Prison break was probably the worst. No. The worst is chasm. No, wait, flooded was ghost.

That one is horrible. That one. Yeah, I remember that. This is ghost. Yes, this is ghost. I don't even remember this shit.

We're five maps in. And every six maps in and they've all just induced rage. That one's not bad. That was a, Sovereign's pretty good. I don't. Octane. What the fuck?

That's, that's, that's, that's not octane. This is a paid ad. This is an AI. That map is also atrocious. That map was bad. What's, I don't know. That map you're in a tower and the tower is shaking. You don't remember that?

Oh, I do remember. No, Stonehaven. Stonehaven. I remember that. That map looked cool. I like Stonehaven. I thought that map looked cool and it was like, it was sort of fun to play but it was like dude this map is

fucking terrible why am I assaulting a castle dude yeah this is a great I fought with freight you can't have freight and number freight war hawk I thought with Warhawk dude the weird thing about this game was oh these are best to worst oh

oh oh oh okay or worst to best okay wait wait what did they rank the worst oh it's all the way up see I remember the bottom three I don't even remember that Matt overlord this I was going to say there's a giant satellite on it but you can fucking see the fucking, most of it's like inside. You can close a door on one side.

Dude, I remember Overlord being a Fragg Cup map or like on the release days. And I was watching people play it and I was like, oh my God, this game is atrocious. That's when, remember, they didn't ban the killstreaks at first. And so the first couple of tournaments, people were using like the little riot shield guy you got. Oh, yeah. Like the AI. So like one of the killstreaks is like you have a little bot that would follow you around. So people would wait until everyone got it and they'd play 8 v4. What? Dude, it was in, it was the worst release.

That sounds horrible. It was the worst release ever. Yeah, I went to the first ghost event. Got like top. What was it? Didn't we look at this the other week? Oh, yeah. I think we got like, no, no, we were.

It was like top. It said like 72nd to 80th or something. That was a halo event. No, that was the ghost It was me, hind, Oger 2, and fucking Goofy Barbecue Doesn't that sound like a good cot team?

Yeah Me, Oger 2 Heinz and goofy Bermy Fucking terrible Wait, y'all went to the first Oh like the MLT I don't even know how you guys were

fucking friends Dude Like that is the most random team I've ever heard of Because there was only there was the formal snake bite ace and enable and then we're just like the only other four halo people like willing to go in place or like I guess we have to team with each other they don't even have it oh wait it's right there 57 through 72 57 top 60 yeah that's top 60 top 60 I think we beat some girls we've been I'm telling you man I was playing in your Xbox bio dude yeah did I get points for this? I don't think you get points for that man

And then your very next one is the fucking boots on the ground series Dude I don't remember that I just remember playing pretty good And being like wait I'm decent at this like on S&D I was sniping I was nice dude Nick this I was an A lot good for you Whoa whoa GGCS champs You mean second for I mean it's all bullshit random war zone tourneys like Yeah no I have I have

GGCS yeah they're not bullshit. GGCS. Half of those are hitches. They're all of mine. You're like all mine. I got second on mutineers in a war zone tourney with all the CDL pros. Dude, look at the prize column.

Nothing and then 40,000. Yeah, wait a second. Why was I playing this shit? Literally nothing and then 40,000. God, I forgot about me, Nate Schott. That's a rough. Yeah. Me made boz and X.

God, that was a bad scler. That's a rough couple of years, man. I mean, it wasn't really my... I didn't care. Dude, this site should just put prize... I remember the only time... The only time I got mad, I think, in any of these was whenever we got second in the war zone tourney.

CDL Warzone weekend, week one. Atura, havoc, me and skies. We got second and I was so mad. because I felt like we should have won And like I died Is that the one where you guys I died at the house? Probably I don't know

Dude I remember watching that like I was like probably Wait I'm pretty sure we killed you guys Because I won one of them I remember getting Like we were rotating somewhere And fucking Wait who won that one

Some random solo just killed me By like laying down behind I won one of these This was the one where you guys Were camping the fucking house dude probably it actually was you played with Kyler and Ender

and Tommy oh you choked wait you had to have choked wait that was the one Nick did you guys get grenade launcher in that fucking house I don't remember my brain is fucking fried

dude I remember some team I do gotta there was camping in the house I do kind of remember there was a solo I watched with the fucking grenade launcher ran into a house and like full killed one person knocked two people and completely

ruined the game for that team for that team yeah i mean i hope that was the huntsman on this hit show additional placements yeah everyone was yeah they didn't care at all oh they were i used to run their shit my fuck i guess be forgetting who i was on mutineers on mutineers you how did you even get on that were you the sub yeah he was the sub no i was not competing could you imagine i was competing cashed out what was that like a fucking skies breaks his thumb like 50k

salary bro what was that for what would you even do well think about the subs on the other teams what were they doing oh I know ever that shit was a friendship league dude yeah I mean that's how I got on ogre too is the manager so he just Nick I got an opportunity for you well he was like

obviously we're not going to use our sub and no other teams using their sub but we have to fill this slot so like this is when like optics sort of died for a sec Free as 50K you've ever made. Optic died for a set or for a little bit. So like I just went to mutineers and they just used me for like photo shoots, random. I'd show up to events.

I think I think that like meet and greets, photo shoots, random like random social content. But I mean war zone tourneys and stuff. So it's like, I mean, I was probably the best use sub. I deserve that fucking pay. I was the highest, I was the most valuable sub in that league and that year. What was anyone else doing? My viewers weren't good, but they were still probably the highest out of any.

No, you can't say that when, no, Toronto, Ultra. He was a stream. Ultra. That year, they had like five starters and five subs. And remember, they were rotating them. Oh, yeah, Zinni was telling me about that. Yeah, so you can't tell me. you were not the most valuable

tub I mean so you can't tell me that actually Zinny was Zinny once Zinny got benched Once Zinny got benched He took my

spot as most valuable Dude Zinny Zin was set up for failure on that team bro He was like the only American I think there may have been like two of Americans He was in everyone else Looney Methods

Brack Lucky Metals Kleenex classic Camy Bants and Mayhem What? Like they think it's like an NBA team to where they're trying to figure out their starting five. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like that is so bad for like the mental of just starters.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Because then you're just, you're playing for stats. Yeah. Imagine all of them. You're playing to not get shit on. Was 50K the league minimum? Yeah.

And it's like I'm pretty sure they signed 200. They signed everyone at like very low salaries. That's 500K. 500K. I remember I think Zinni said he was getting a decent bag. 500K if it's league minimum. And you know fucking Kleenex And they're not getting paid league minimum

Bants is not getting paid league minimum They got to be at least be in like 75 to 100 or some shit Fucking crazy That is insane Yeah that was my call duty career Just the Just

Mutineers in GGCS Yeah There's a trophy though So I got I might have to talk Damn I gotta start I gotta start Pimping out my stream room Bro my stream room is depressing

my apartment's kind of depressing just because like it's a nice view it looks nice but it's not homie at all. It's just white walls, white cabinet. It looks like an insane You see it? Do you see his tweet about the plant? Yeah my fucking no or wait

My Instagram? Matt pull it up bro. His tweet? Wait, wait, I think it was an Instagram story. Was it a story? I was just in there thinking like my plant is so fucking bibe And all it was All it was was was a couch and a plant Oh I did see that. Was a couch a

plant in a window and I was like it and Nick you want to know what I thought that I'm going through a midlife crisis I was like dude his life must suck dude he's sitting there looking at a plant saying it's viking I was sitting there like fuck it was a fucking we gotta help like like even if I'm down bad like at least I'm not looking at a plant thinking this shit looks cool but you should You should have seen it before the plant. Then you're now with the plant. No, the plant did, you went from like a prison cell to like a, hey, at least we tried. I don't have the skills to make it a homey environment.

I would admit. It is, it is semi. I mean, you just moved. It's not depressing fucking walking in. No. It's actually a super nice place. You just, you just moved in. but even then i've been there like two months there should be

it was just it was just a funny i mean dude i don't know if you go to some of these cod pros and their background on their stream it's bad i would have loved to walk into i don't want to call anyone out dude that would have love to walk in the formal's place three years ago that's a new video right there right what we react and rate and judge people people for their fucking show stream room. Or just their setup in general. Yeah.

Dude, there's an... Optic people set up. Right, optic numbers. My, dude, the amount of times... So gross. Especially, like,

I forgot what team it was, but just walking into rooms and just seeing a bed on the floor with no fucking frame and just a desk with the gaming setup and just nothing on the walls. Dude, the thing is,

like back in the day, that's how it was. Yeah. Dude, have you guys ever seen Look up Matt, can you look up Unbox therapy? What up, baby? Unbox therapies Uh, uh, uh, street

or his setup. Just Unbox therapy. But like back in the day, your setups would be like, I didn't give a shit. Look at this guy's fucking setup. Dude, that guy's in the, is that the Batcave? He's in, literally in the Batcave. What does fuck? I was watching, because he does like unboxes of like different things.

Like, look up, uh, the Wilson basketball. Unbox therapy So what does this dude Dude just unbox shit? You just unboxes shit Dude that is In that room You want to talk about

Look at that shit You want to talk about Like one of the coolest fucking jobs in the world It's opening shit that people will just send you And then you just keep it Like bro

That is the easiest Best job Is that a fucking R32 GTR? That's a basketball That's a Art 32. Wait, it is. I was just a kid.

Oh, way. That's, okay, you know Summets car. It ain't got a plant. Yeah, some is great. Yeah, that's Summets Car, but in blue. How much do you think that is right there? The car or the space? Probably minimum 200. You have to get those ships from...

Damn, for that hunk of junk. You have to get those ship from, like, Japan and go through, like, customs and all this shit. Wait, Matt, is that the car that Wildcat had? No. No? No. Wow How much are there

Wait I thought Wildcat had the Skylight How long have you been into Oh they're actually not that bad I thought they were way more Were you just always in the cars No dude So I actually got in their cars like this is 60 50

60 50 with your goddamn racing gloves Before Uber eats Before Uber eats right I would just go in a nade's room And be like yo you hungry And I'd be like fucking cheesy while asking it, right? Because he's like, yeah, man, go give me some nuggets.

And he would just give me the keys, give me his card. And that's actually, it's so sad, but it's so true. Like, I got into cars by being Nade's, like, McDonald's fucking Uber-Each driver slash bitch. I got pulled over so many times. Wait, what car did he have? M3. And then didn't you buy one, like, right after that? I bought an M-4, yeah.

Is that an upgrade? Dude, I wish I would have bought his car. Really? Yeah. I mean, I kind of felt actually, I didn't really get to drive any good car. This car, dude, it didn't look all that crazy, like looking at it now. But dude, that V8 sounded insane. And the M3.

Like, if I were to sell, like I sell the Jeep, if I were to actually get like a sedan, Like sports car I would probably Try to get one of these Sell that Jeep and get one of these Man I actually might But the problem is

It's super cheap though I go to the I go to White Rock You know where White Rock is Yeah So I bike there And I'm sitting there like

I can't fit a fucking bike And that When I ride your bike to it I mean that's what I do do But it's just The ride there It's not as cool as Yeah

I'd rather do two laps Of White Rock or two or three I just recently Started doing three Yeah I get it Um, yeah, I'm fucking, I'm, I'm shredded. Yeah. Same, same.

I'd rather do two laps than right there and back and do one lap. Um, but if I get an M3 though, man, were you not? Yeah, let me know. Wait, how many miles does your Jeep have? 56. Okay. Let me know, man. Let me know.

You're not, you're not doing the Merck. I actually gave Nick a fire suggestion. Every single... Yeah, what did you say? The S-class, 2017 to 2019. Matt, Google this. Google this. 2018 Mercedes S-class.

I don't know why an older... Bro. You don't want anything under 2017. An older car, even though it's not that much older. Nick, come on, son. These... Davis, how much you think that is? How much you think?

85. All right, look at... he's like shit it might be no no no look yeah right there right there no car gurus these these were like 60 to oh wow no that's old as shit wait no those are 18s 7 wait 25 fine a s class yeah like the one on the right yeah that's one top right that's a maybach dude for 60 that's a maybach you think i put 70 7000 7000 miles on it dude it's a mercedes It will do 200. Where the fuck are you going?

Like should I would should let's let's talk about cars for the casuals like myself. Should I be worried? Go to the interior. About 70,000 miles on a binns. Something fucks up. Oh, so here's the thing. You are going to have maintenance on it, but it's it's a bend. So realistically like as long as you don't go to a Ben's dealership, like you could go somewhere else to get a service for like the little things.

no that's what is that yeah I feel like if a bend you take to the bends dealership to go to yeah that one that's fucked then dude these have like seat massagers and everything like listen look at that I love it

I do look at that I love Nick that's who you want to be right there that's you baby dude I could see you in that with the fucking top hat fully tatted and shredded oh shirtless dick out wait you say top hat Top hat, I could see Top hat, fully shredded and tatted?

I mean, maybe the other two. Dude, see, it's got a fucking seat massage. Okay, so how, why should I not worry about the miles? Because I feel like around like 80,000 is what I've heard. It's like what shit starts being weird. Like, didn't hex's car blow up at 85,000 miles? No, you just need to get it like service. So, and I have no idea how bad the service is on this?

but like if you it might be 4,000 a year. See, I just, hmm. But, but dude, that base price on these are like 200 to 300,000. I might, I kind of, I think I'm going to get the car that, uh, Luca Donchukes has. Have you seen it? Google it, Matt. Can you look up, uh, let's see what this is.

No, I just, I think it'd be really practical for like, for my drive to work. Yep. Let's see. this is, Luca Donchage's car. Is it that? Yeah. I could totally see you with this. For your drive from here to here?

Just from my drive to work. I just see you pull out of that garage and park right in the... It's a sick second. Dude, that's not going to fit in any parking space. Where does he drive this? Where does he... Where can he possibly go where he can park anywhere? You know the dumb shit about that is like, it looks insane, but you get inside.

and it's a Jeep. Yeah. And it's a Jeep. Dude, going to... The apocalypse. That is what they call it. Apocalypse.

Like, I don't understand... I don't either. Okay, it looks crazy, but like, where are you gonna go with that? Now it's in, now he plays for the Lakers. There's no way he has that anymore. That in L.A.

He didn't bring that to L.A. That in L.A. You can charge rent. Imagine. You really charge. rent dude you're gonna get if you're gonna park that anywhere you're getting you're taking up two spots you're getting a ticket well i doubt he's like going to a coffee shop it's probably just like the convention center or wherever they practice and that is yeah but right in the lambo

home no i agree i would never drive something like that we were to uh apocalypse edition there's a there's a really popular um car show and in scottstale called uh barrett jackson alexis and i go yeah And they have shit like this and up, right up at the front. And I'm like, what? Like, they have, like, the new and improved RVs and shit. And they're just, like, gigantic jeeps. Like, humongous jeeps that you can live in. That, yeah, that show, or that auction's pretty sick.

I do like Crim's Jeep. Nice and just has shit done to it. Yep. Yeah. Ain't that fake, that bullshit original? Why don't you have any mods on yours? I just don't to be cared. I can't afford it.

I can't afford it. Dude, it's so cheap. Yeah. They're so cheap. Dude, the wheels and tires, like, dude, you can afford modification. The full set and the tires were like $3,000. I have, but I have tires. I think it was even less.

This is actually the first time I've ever had, I've ever done anything to a car ever. I got a speaker system and I got tires. Did you get like subwoofers? Yeah. It would like 212 inch. Not nothing like that. Stuff that fits under the seat. But like when I first got in the car, I was like, got to change that.

And I had already bought it. But I took it and there's a- I thought you put two 12-inch subs in the back. I remember I did that for my, the car that I moved into the scuff house with had subwoofers. Yeah, I remember. I remember like Bose and shit. Didn't you sell them?

Dude, I don't know what I did. That car broke, that car broke down on the, pulling into the airport. The car broke down. and I had flame, ace, and assault with me. And we had to call it, like assault, it says about to miss his flight now. Right. Called an Uber and, like, had him just pick him up.

But, like, that must be the weirdest Uber call. Just like, pick me up at the airport and take me just further down to the airport. But yet, broke down. I basically got it towed. I said I didn't even want it. And then I think Hax's dad paid to get it back and then, like, did something with it. Really? I don't know.

Dude, that's insane because that's a very similar story to my Jetta. Except no breakdown. Yeah, my shit. You just let it go. Yeah, Hector. Hector bought it from me and that was it. Like, I've never seen it since. I have no idea where it is.

Oh, he bought it from you? Yeah. Oh, shit. That's what I did with the Jeep. When we got the, uh, what was it? What sponsorship did we have during the infinite Nissan? We had a Nissan sponsorship. They, like, they like, let us have, or like, they let us like,

used cars. Yeah. So there was like this tiny little stick shift. Or no, maybe it was a stick shift, but it was called a fly. A Nissan fly. Oh, yeah. You were whipping that. So I had that little thing that I was driving back and forth.

And so I stopped using my Jeep. Then somebody in the neighborhood that we lived in called the cops because I hadn't used my Jeep and they thought it was for drug deals. What the fuck? We lived in a very, very white area. Yeah. And so then I went and I just called somebody to come. grab it. They just toned it and that was it. You were just like get rid of it? I was like, please

just get rid of it. I thought someone bought it or something. No, I donated it to Oh shit. I donated it to like kids that are first learning how to drive like their first cars if their parents can afford it. So there's somebody out there. Some kids got the red Jeep, the scuff house

jeep. So Ian, you were never into cars until Nate shots sparked the... Yep. Damn, really? And then I feel like you'd be became like a fanatic. Yeah, I mean, I used... And then this fucking racing shit. Well, that's how I got good at,

or at least like a baseline of how to drive, was with the call duty winnings, I would do track days and stuff and just leave my phone in the bag and just drive on track all day long. Were you doing that and just no one knew? Yeah. Like, what car were you taken for that?

Both of those. Oh, shit. Wait, was that here in Texas? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So it was like years later before you really got into. Yeah.

And then then goes from that to... Go ahead. That's a sim racing. Yep. How much you get paid for the turtle wax lane? Uh... My friend was wondering. I don't know.

Matt. Matt was on. Matt was wondering. I think it was, I mean, it was five digits. There you go. I don't remember. It's a lot for 20. 2016.

Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I hit them up for a sponsorship, man. Turtle wax. They should. And I don't know. Yeah, because I'm like, well, the whole reason why I actually got, so I got into racing because me, Nate and Hector, it was like the first ever like e-sports awards or whatever it was. And we did a turtle wax like track day.

And I was like, like, Hector and Nate were like picking supercars. I was like, no, give me the fucking race car. Give me the Ferrari, right? And it was a Ferrari race car. And that was my first ever time on track was a Turtle Axe sponsorship. Oh. And that's sort of when I was like, yeah, I want to go faster. Did you know when you retired that this was next?

I wanted to do two things alongside like being a content creator, right? Burn Bridges. Is that what it was called? Dude, that, yeah, that. That meant to be my first question. How's your podcast? That was going to be my first question. It was actually so good.

No, it was great. If we got guests, but that was the problem was that we couldn't get any guests on the fucking show. It wasn't it you and some. Aix. Oh, Juan. Yeah, yeah. But Aix was like your only guest? Akes, and I think we may have had one more.

Paca, right? And Paco, yeah. And those two. They can't speak English and then the most hated person ever. Way to start the pod. No, but they finally, like, that one helped people understand, like, our banter and the fact that, oh, shit, Paco is actually funny. Yeah. Yeah.

No, it was a good show. Paco's a funny dude. Paco's fucking hilarious. Dude, I walked. He always has a soccer ball around because they're literally right there now. So, like, we were, like, walking. I was walking and get something from the store. from like the little corner store over here

and I walked with the whole LA Thieves team they went and got popcorn and they were just kicking the ball down the road. That's what they do? That's what they do. Matt, would you, or Ian,

would you know where to find this clip? It was you, I think you, Clay, Hydra and Neptune as a team. And there's a clip and you guys just have the worst communication ever. They did like a listen in.

I don't know what Matt would even type in to fucking find this. Maybe in a tournament where we went there and didn't want to make a movie. I think it was like a Twitter clip, but they were down like 174 to like 84 and a hard point and they go in and listen in with them while they're losing and it was the worst shit ever. Ian's like,

yo, everyone listen. Slow down or like some shit. Dude, what are we? Why is no? And then Neptune's just sitting there like maybe saying a word. Hydra's fucking speaking is a different language.

I was just like, God, this was such a. sometimes it just happens you just like randomly get into a team and you're just like what is that feeling like because I know you guys have both had that happen

where like somehow you find yourself on the team that you know is not winning well that's is it hard to get motivated well that team was difficult because it was like that first of all that was like the first team I've ever had that happen really yeah was that subliners team where we were so good for like two weeks

And then I noticed like everyone is getting better and we're not making any fucking We're doing the same thing every single day and we're not getting better And it was it just felt like you're running around in circles Because every day you get on you make the same mistakes nothing changes And you're like all right fuck maybe it will happen tomorrow get on tomorrow nope Still doing the same shit what like what make is it possible to break that or Is it like sometimes there's just a best dude

I feel like sometimes there's just a certain four players to where it's like Damn it's just I just don't think it's gonna work Yeah like it's like a lifestyle Flamesword I mean that's just that was That was that's there Then even the team that's not gonna work Is above that

Dude you all have a run though Sometimes no We had we were the best shit team Like we got like knife to qualify for for like region or what was the last chance qualifier that won the fucking online qualifier the last chance qualifier with all the shit bag teams all the good team the top eight teams

were sitting there chilling and then we won we beat all the shit teams playing sword with 28 28000 viewers what dude was the best opta caleb was like yeah we had motion i should have fucking streamed though you're welcome and i didn't stream because i'd get it would just

I wouldn't be nervous It would just make Whenever I would stream Important tournaments I feel like it would make me play Like The safer Yeah

It would like make me play more safe For stat like stat hurry Not really necessarily stats It's just I don't want to look like I'm the guy who like Fucked up or like So I'd play it a little slow Or I'd not take risk

Like because sometimes you don't Sometimes like you'll see shots He do some shit Some flying out shit And you're like What the fuck's he doing? But like me when I'm straight but it's just like he you have to take those wrists yeah sometimes yeah um like

those wrists are good and like and so sometimes I just felt like when I was streaming I just I would just play I just play like a pussy just play very basic and pussy like so I wouldn't stream some of that stuff um but flames started fucking streamed it's 28000 viewers uh you you didn't sleep ball that night who oh me thinking about that you're sitting there like fuck dude i was live i could have sort of celebrated i could add half of those i could have 14 i would have took all of i was like uh bro in those days nick wasn't sleeping ever oh i know i think i i think i i'm i know me and nick shared a room together for like fucking dude i don't think i was necessarily cracked out in when we shared a room though was i

was i remember towards the end you were towards the end i definitely towards the end i remember when i first joined optic i wasn't i remember moving into the new house i was like listen, I don't care if I'm playing in the fucking middle of the open dining room, right? Like, I don't care. I need my own fucking room, though. I'm like, I need my own room. Because Nick, right, his schedule, right? Most people would do sleep eight hours, you know, awake for 16, right?

Nick would do like a day sleep, two days away. Yeah. Pretty much. I remember that. He only did that for a decade, though. Yeah, pretty much. That was a solid like six, and that is that guys is why I have that when I shot Nick with the paintball gun. Oh, my God.

I still said. That was my revenge. That was my revenge. I don't know if I've talked about it on, I think I talked about it on stream watching O'Clakes. I'm like, what a dumb fuck. What? That's not a prank. Like, it's not like you're scaring me.

I wake up and there's just a paintball in my paintball gun in my face. Like, you're not scaring me. You're not pranking me. You're just actually fucking shooting me. And I'm fucking dead asleep. I woke up so confused. And then it like hit me. Now I was just like,

ah, the fuck, you fucking idiots, get out of here. And then like y'all walk away. Everyone's fucking laughing, recording. It's so anger-inducing.

Then they walk away and I'm like, do we shoot formal here too? Or was it just? Oh, you fucking hit my ass cheek. See, so me and Nick Look how close he is with a paintball gun Dude, you're an idiot

So that was my bet on the right Think And why are me in formal sleeping like this? How close did you get? I thought you were at the doorway Dude, I just shot you in your cheeks, bro Yeah, that shit fucking hurt Who is recording this?

But why are me in formal sleeping like this? I don't know Cheek to cheek Just cheek to cheek Imagine you walk in Y'all just cuddling Oh my God Oh my God

Oh my god Should have threw down after this Did you shoot? No, no It didn't shoot anything Just Look, I'm so confused Wow

Like I had like I had like sweat pants And I was like Ow, that fucking hurt But like whatever He just went back to bad Dude And people

Man Man Man Man Yeah And people like Can't seem to understand why I would like

hate living in this these not only this situation but like even at the the scuff house of just annoying shit you know when I came back home from traveling all day in my entire place my entire room was

tenfoil do you remember that? Yeah yeah no dude the the getting fucked with when sleeping is no the most diabolical shit I did right was was when I stole Nick's

milk, dude. Oh, my God. Do you remember this? You remember when he was on his protein shake fucking, fucking, like, at least? I had people steal my Chapult. Dude. Just a full fucking meal that I bought just gone. Groceries gone.

Like. Nick? Okay. I may have not been sober at the time, but it was like the night, the night before, I am just like looking to eat everything, like, drink everything. Didn't even fucking matter. This, we didn't make it, this was not a video. Yeah, you took my Chipotle and milk.

No, I never took your Chipotle, but dude, I wasn't even thirsty, and I go into the fridge, and I see a milk carton that is labeled Nick on it, right? And I was just like, you know what? Did I label it? Yeah, yeah, you wrote Nick on it or something, and that, and that I just, I just fucking drank the whole thing of milk for no fucking reason. And it wasn't, and it wasn't like, it wasn't like, it wasn't like one of the clear ones. like one of the white like front so you can't see how much is that it.

And I fucking put the empty carton back in. Dude. And then woke up, woke up the next morning to Nick just screaming, dude. He was like, what the fuck? That type of shit was so annoying.

I remember I was just laying in bed, right? Just hearing that. And dude, the most, it was I just, I wish I had like I could see what I, I looked like because it was the biggest grin on my face. Fucking evil.

That's insane. He was, bro. That's next level evil. It was fucking evil. But I mean, that happened not only with Krim like other people. Motherfuckers just taking shit. I never ate your Chipotle. Cold Chipotle is disgusting.

If I had, like, if I ordered pizza, I'd have to stash it in my room. You can't just like keep pizza. And then we got the brisk matte fucking, uh, uh, fridge. fridges for our room and then that's where we just kept all of our shit. Just drinks and you couldn't just buy like safeguarding all your shit. Couldn't buy Red Bulls and like leave them somewhere. Like everything had to be stored in your room like different shit would come up missing like God. I mean people it was just a bad I think I wouldn't have it would have been more tolerable if I wasn't as just like my sleep schedule as fog because.

Dude, you were fucking playing the piece. piano and shit, dude. Remember he was on that fucking DJ piano? Just for fucking 16 hours. And then he would play it on his speakers, but he would try to play the same part over. Like when you're like mixing, it would just be ping, beam, boom. No, I got a question for you guys, right? So we went to Europe for like GFinity ESWC all in one trip, right?

I came back. I still to this day don't know. I have no idea who did this. but it's up there on my like this is fucked okay someone fucking took a shit in my toilet pomage didn't wipe didn't wipe didn't wipe and didn't flush and it sat there for two fucking weeks and I swear to God my room never smelt the same again say it's 6050 no at uh got fouse yeah so had to be Pam someone took a shit in my room and and didn't fucking wipe and just let it unless it was it

marinated for like two solid weeks in my room. Me and Pamaz shared me and Pamaz shared a bathroom he took a shit in ours it clogged so he did nothing about it and it was just sat there clogged

for two weeks. He didn't go by a fucking plunger. He didn't take care of it. He just let it sit. He just he would piss on the top of the shit. He might have shit on the shit on the shit. Dude. But it was

it was like that for two weeks until Hax came in and was like What the fuck is this shit? And Pam was just like We don't have a plunger Hax is like It's been two fucking weeks

Go to Target You have a car Go get a fucking plunger What the fuck you little ass ass kid pussy? Like whatever Haxes Man was Oh my God

Yeah man that's the type of shit You had to deal with back then That's just made me sick to my stomach That's the type of shit You had to deal with back there I gotta get ready for my podcast So Let's uh

wrap it up? I do. Let me ask. I think I had one more question. I actually had two questions. Ian, what are your thoughts? And don't go into a long-winded answer. What are your thoughts on?

Because the fans have been giving the, whenever the team doesn't perform well, the fans are on their ass. Are on their ass about being in content. What are your thoughts about content while? competing. Well, it depends on if someone is doing it individually or if like the team is asking. I think when the team is asking and you just, you know, here's your time, show up, do the content,

then as a player, that's like the easiest shit possible, right? You just get it done, do it, you know, back to your normal train of thought thinking, right? But if you're doing it yourself, completely different story because you have to think about it. Like, the biggest thing is you have to spend time doing it, right? You have to think about it. You got to coordinate it. You got to fucking edit it. It's not necessary.

People don't really do that. These pros just have people that clip shit and upload it, thumbnail. So they don't really do that, but like, we'll record a video in here at 11 a.m. And then they go home and scrim all day. But the video comes out. And they're like, why were they recording these type of videos instead of at home scrimming? I'm like, because it's 11 a.m. And there's fucking 16.

hours they get to spare. I don't think people actually think it. I think it's just an easy way to get clicks. I really, I genuinely do. Like, like if somebody was playing 10 hours of Valorant a day and they were losing and they were streaming it or somebody found their like combat report and it said 10 hours a day on

Valorant, that's different. But like, obviously if we're, if our guys are in a one v. one video that took 40 minutes. Yeah. And then they scrim all day.

And then they lose. The one v. one video comes out and people like, shouldn't they be probably focused on the, like, that's not a real point of criticism. I think the weird thing is they just care too much, right? Like, dude, to me, if they were losing, like, this is just an excuse, right, for them. Because because it cares so much, if you spend five minutes making a video or five hours, right, no matter what, if you lose to them, that's the excuse.

and that's sort of the issue is like it's for them as players it's a weird spot because you can't tell people like hey we're working on it right and it'd be like yeah right I don't believe you and then you put out the content and it's just like you have to do the content and you have to also win so it's just a fuck situation and I mean like they should still do the content

but now they just need to start winning I don't know you can't tell people to care less or to believe us we're fucking trying you know what I mean like They just win They were doing content And they were literally first seed going into the event

Then they go into the event And they suck and then people bring up content So it's like oh The content started suddenly affecting them When they were flying over to fucking Madrid Yeah Let me ask one more question Sorry Hitch

No you're good you're good What, uh, this is something else fans were not freaking out about, but somewhat. Uh, what's your, what's your take on them? Hooke joining, dropping Pred, or whatever term you want to say. Hoop joining. Hook performing the best, but then still getting dropped. Uh, I. Why would Optic do that?

Why wouldn't they drop something else? Should they have kept Hooke? Let's just say, I don't know all their. inner workings or what the fuck happened. Well, I was just gonna say, like, I've been there. I've been in their situation. Yeah. Okay.

I'm not. Well, I was just thinking because there are players where like, I teamed with Soviet and Halo 3. He performs well individually. He was looked at as one of the best players. Perform well in our team. It was me, Cloud, Demandie, and Soviet. Okay.

And then we dropped Soviet, who I don't think people would say played the best, but we dropped him and picked up in the clutch. Just in it. And then we got fifth and then we won fucking 09 minutes. So it's just like just because you might look at someone as like, why would they get dropped instead of, why didn't Maniac get dropped off that team instead of Soviet? It's because like there's just certain dynamics to a team. Maybe they felt with who they were good.

They still got number one seed. But maybe there's just a certain dynamic that they were looking for felt like they lost. I don't know. They had to switch some of. To actually answer your question, I think the biggest thing, that is not looked at is the team stats. Everyone wants to bring up individual stats or played the best.

Like, playing the best, but losing, like, is still the worst outcome possible, right? So I think people are not really, people are focused on like, oh, well, Hooke was playing well, but, like, how was the rest of the team playing? And that's what, that to me is probably the issue on why they dropped them.

You know what I mean? Because, and it's not even just, it's like any other player can have that effect on any team like one player joining a team could make the whole team play worse collectively right and that's the old to me and to everyone in the pro league to all the fans watching that is the only fucking stat that matters is that is that win or loss it the rest of the board does not fucking matter the player cards do not fucking matter like if you win it's going to be good if you lose it's going to you know and i don't even want to say HOOC joined and made them worse because they still got first seed going into

the event obviously they were good I'm pretty sure they beat a few of the the top teams um one line at least so not trying to we're not trying to jab at Hook or something it's just like I don't know it's an interesting dynamic to see like it is interesting from I get it because I've I've played professionally and I understand just because someone did the best statistically we as a team might just feel more comfortable with someone else. So I think I get it because I've had some experience with that myself, but I just know it's a question the fans in the community we're having. So, yeah, but yeah, I get it.

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