The Glenn Beck Program - 1/15/18 - 'Don't Let Hate Win' (Bishop Omar Jahwar joins Glenn)

Episode Date: January 15, 2018

Hour 1  Martin King Jr.'s legacy will always be remembered...Recalling what Albert Einstein said about America?...What it means to really be an American? ...News dump day?...Unsealed documents, reveal new details in the Las Vegas shooting at Mandalay Bay...shooter worked hard to cover his tracks...girlfriend was very much involved...ISIS connection? ...CIA- Moby collusion?   Hour 2  The strangest investigations in modern history?...Where is all security camera footage?...What's on all those cell phones? ...Reaching a higher ground with Bishop Omar Jahwar...Course, Correction, Conversation ...We all need each other...Don't let hate win...Urbanspecialists.org    Hour 3  Showing big heart?...DACA is dangerous for both political parties ...False Missile Alert in Hawaii ...Adnan, a visitor in Hawaii calls in to describe the terror when the missile alert went off...panic or calm?...Retired Navy Commander, 18-year resident of Oahu calls in to describe what he saw during that false alert ...Hope for the best plan for the worst ...All is well with Stu his Eagles ...Another Hollywood celebrity is under investigation for sexual assault? ..."She's fake, so yes she's faking it"? ...Retrospect = Conscious    The Glenn Beck Program with Glenn Beck and Stu Burguiere, Weekdays 9am–12pm ET on TheBlaze Radio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Courage. Truth. Glenn. We will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholic,

will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual. Free at last, free at last. Thank God Almighty. We are free at last. Now is the time. The rise. from the dark and desolate valley of segregation

to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children. I've seen the promised land. I want you to know the night.

Dr. Martin Luther King has been been shot and wounded, possibly critically wounded in Memphis, Tennessee this evening. Dr. Martin Luther King, the apostle of nonviolence in the civil rights movement, has been shot to death in Memphis Tennessee. ...all points bulletin for a well-dressed young white man seen running from the scene. For centuries, man's freedom has been crushed, contained, or at best discouraged, and sometimes in subtle ways. In the days of Solomon, he decried that man...

could learn too much, that one shouldn't dig too deeply nor read too often, saying that too much reading led to the weariness of the flesh, that the search for knowledge is where Adam and Eve went wrong, thus proving that learning leads to man's downfall or his sin. St. Paul centuries later, said basically the same thing. In 1500, Francis Bacon wrote to the king trying to convince him that man could never learned too much, that knowledge could not somehow also contain the serpent. Yet free thought continued to be squashed. Emmanuel Kant, the man who first described the Milky Way as a collection of sons in the fashion that we now know it, wrote in 1760, There are many things that I believe that I shall never say,

but I shall never say the things that I do not believe. The courage to speak one's mind. In 1760, our most precious freedom, the freedom of thought, had not yet been born. Yet, just a few years later, on the other side of the globe, sat a man alone in a hotel room, his wife dying in bed hundreds of miles away from him. As he scratched words on paper, we find these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, with certain unalienable rights given to them by their creator. Among them, life, liberty, and property.

It was later changed to the pursuit of happiness to make sure the slave trade would finally come to an end. I'm not sure if we really understand the impact of those words. Man has never been as free to think as man is now. The Chinese dissidents didn't make a, Statue of Liberty in Tiananmen Square out of happenstance, Americans changed the world. Our freedom of thought allowed men to discover electricity,

the light bulb, the car, the phone, the motion picture, the radio, the television, the computer, to put a man on the moon. Which of these men will be first to orbit the earth, I cannot tell you. And a spacecraft on Mars. It was in the American century that the theory of relatives, was conceived, leading Einstein to say, The thing that strikes me about America is the joyous, positive attitude to life. The smile on the faces of the people is one of the greatest assets of the American.

He's friendly, self-confident, optimistic, and without envy. The American lives more for his goals, for the future. Life for him is always becoming. Never being. His emphasis is laid on the we and never the eye. So today, as we are free to celebrate, relax, think, read, say anything. Ask yourself this. Are we still more about the goals for the future?

Is life for us always about becoming and never being? And are we still part of the we and not the eye? You know, when Jefferson first wrote those words, they were words of treason and certain execution. But today they are free to echo throughout the land as words of the American spirit and our hope, that we do hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, and among them life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And in support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.

Our founders changed the world with those few words. And over 200 years later, a black preacher, From the South, Dr. Martin Luther King helped make sure that the promise of liberty was real for all Americans. Free at last. Free at last. Free at last. Free at last. Thank God Almighty.

Thank God Almighty. We are free at last. It's Monday, January 15th. This is the Glenn Beck program. Welcome to the program. There's a lot to cover today. But I want to focus a little bit on that quote that Einstein said about Americans. He said, I have to redeem my promise to say something about my impressions of this country.

And it's not altogether easy for me, for it's not easy to take up the attitude of an impartial observer when one is received with such kindness and undeserved respect as I have been given in America. first let me say something on its head the cult of individual personalities is always in my view unjustified to be sure nature distributes her gifts variously among her children listen to that

this is so far out of our thinking now it is in my view unjustified to be sure nature distributes her gifts variously among her children but there are plenty of well-endowed ones too, thank God, and I'm firmly convinced that most of them live quiet, unregarded lives. Is that even, is that even a goal of ours now? Is that even okay to live a quiet, unregarded life? It strikes me as unfair and even in bad taste to select a few of them

for boundless admiration attributing superhuman powers of mind and character to them. This has been my fate and the contrast between the popular estimate of my powers and achievement, and the reality is simply grotesque. It would be unbearable, but for one great consoling thought, it is a welcome symptom in the age which is commonly denounced as materialistic, that it makes heroes of men whose ambitions lie whole, in the intellectual and moral sphere. This proves that knowledge and justice are ranked above wealth and power. Do we still hold people at high esteem whose ambitions are wholly in the intellectual or moral sphere?

Can you name those people? My experience teaches me that this idealistic outlook, quoting Albert Einstein, is particularly prevalent. in America, which is usually decried as a materialistic country. After this digression, I come to my proper theme in the hope that no more weight will be attached to my modest remarks than they deserve. But what strikes the visitor with amazement is the superiority of this country in matters of techniques and organization. Objects of everyday use are more solid than Europe. Houses are more convenient in arrangement.

Everything is designed to save human labor because labor is expensive, because the country is sparsely inhabited in comparison with its natural resources. The high price of labor, which was the stimulus, which evoked the marvelous development of technical devices and methods of work, the opposite extreme is illustrated by overpopulated China and India where the low price of labor has stood in the way of development. Europe is halfway between the two. The second thing that strikes a visitor is the joyous, positive attitude to life. Does that strike the visitor to America?

I suppose, compared to the rest of the world? Perhaps. The European is more critical, more self-conscious, less, good-hearted, less helpful, more isolated, more fastidious in his amusements, in his reading, and generally more or less a pessimist. Great importance attaches to the material comforts of life and peace and freedom from care, security are all sacrificed to them. The American lives for ambition the future.

Life for him is always becoming never being. Are we still those people? Where Europe is about the material comforts of life, freedom from care and security, sacrifice to them? Are we still the people that live for ambition, for the future, that life is always becoming and never being? More emphasis is laid on the we than the eye. The fact is chiefly responsible for America's economic superiority. Cooperation and the division of labor are carried through more easily and with less friction than elsewhere. Whether in the factory or the university or private good works, they have a social sense.

It strikes me that we have started a course that none of us really want to go down. I think all of us see the course that we're on and we all know that it's bad we all know that we're headed for catastrophe, we're headed for rocks and it will tear the hull of this ship apart. We all know it. We all say it doesn't have to be this way.

We all are tired of our ship apart. arguing with each other. I don't know a single soul that wants to see a bad cop that wants to see a cop beat a man, shoot a man, and I don't know a soul that wants to see anyone beat or shoot a good cop. You know the thing that made America different is that for the most part we had never had a government that came between us. We had never had a government. We had never had a government. that told us that our enemy was our neighbor, that we should watch out for them, that we shouldn't trust them. I suppose we had that in the 1830s with Andrew Jackson, but he was talking about non-citizens,

of course. He was talking about the Native American. I suppose we had that under the English and in the English. until Abraham Lincoln, where we were told that blacks weren't fully human, certainly not American. We had that in World War I when we were told the Germans, and later in World War II, when we were told the Japanese needed to be rounded up, even though they were American citizens. Somehow or another, though, we always escaped. somehow or another

we still in the end came back together. I know people think this might this is corny, but I still believe in the American people. I still believe in my neighbor.

I don't believe in the grand vision of all of us. But I do believe in the person who lives down the street from me, who says, thinks differently. And the day we lose that is the day we don't turn around. It's the day when we have

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Well, welcome to the program. A lot happened this weekend. Let's see. Uranium 1. There was an arrest made. Looks like that investigation is continuing, which is a very good piece of news. That involves Hillary Clinton and a lot of other people in Washington, D.C. Go ahead.

Yeah, we should point out next week. We have a review of everything. This entire case, Uranium 1, because it's a complicated case. It's been going on for multiple years. There's a lot of rumor out there, a lot of stuff that's not true. It's our chalkboard. It's not. next week on the TV show 5 p.m.

Yeah, and it's really good. And you will understand why this arrest is so important next week. We'll talk about that. Also, the biggest shooting in American history. And we still don't know what the hell is going on, and it became even more complex on Friday. We go there to Las Vegas next. Glenn Beck, Mercury.

Listening to the Glenn Beck program. Jason Betrille is our chief researcher. He was with military intelligence for quite a while during the war and has been with me now for about five years. And is following a few stories for us that are kind of the longer term stories. One of them is absolutely perplexing, and that is the Vegas shooting. This is the biggest shooting in American history. It is also a shooting that didn't happen in 1956. It happened with today's technology.

It's more well documented than any other shooting in American history because of the number of cell phones and it happened in a Vegas casino. the number of cameras in a Vegas casino are endless. And yet we know less about the shooter and what happened than I think most convenience store crimes. We have not seen any footage from inside. We don't have a real motive. And on Friday, the government dumped. Now, remember, Friday is known, if you're a real,

in the news business. Friday is known as a day you dump stories that you don't even want anybody to talk about because it'll come out on a Friday, usually in the afternoon, and then that leaves that for a Saturday report or a Friday night report on television and Saturday in the press. Maybe it gets to Sunday, but by Monday, nobody's talking about it. It's old news. A real dump happens on a Friday of a holiday weekend. So by the time it happened, by the time it's at Tuesday, really you're guaranteed that no one is picking that story up again. That's when they dumped this story, this update, which is even more confusing and makes things worse in Vegas. And Jason is here to tell us what they, what they released on Friday, Jason.

So they unsealed some court documents that talked about what the FBI was going after some of their, some of their, you know, request for information and some of the leads they were going after. And one of them centered around, they had these three cell phones that were in his room. And this is what I thought was really, really interesting because he had these three, I'm just calling them burner phones because that's what it sounded like. One of them, they have not been able to get into. They have not been able to get into it. And they said it was a Google operating system and I guess it's encrypted, but they cannot get into that phone.

Now think about it during the San Bernardino attack. They, I think, got a hacker, you know, to break into that phone. No, it was a big, it was, it was front page news every day for a week. They were, didn't they threaten to take Apple to court? Yeah, they did. They threatened to, but then they got into it. Correct. So that happened within weeks of San Bernardino.

Why have we not heard anything about this phone that is still encrypted and we can't get into it? And why haven't they been successful? I mean, this is the FBI we're talking about. Like, you would think that they would have found a way. Like, they had the smarts enough to go outside the box, you know, and get a hacker to do this for them. They apparently could not do that for this phone. But the point is, is that he was communicating with someone, someone. Now, not only that, but he was taking, I can't remember the direct quote, but crazy steps to thwart the investigation after the fact.

That's why he was using these burner phones. He was using email accounts to like communicate back and forth to either himself or to other people that we don't know. Now that's actually spy tradecraft. That is counterintelligence tradecraft. Explain what that means. With the emails? Yeah. So with the emails, it's a trick that spies are taught to do and coincidentally terrorists, which we can get to in a second, have also picked up on.

They also do this. But what they do is they compose an email to themselves. It never gets sent. but they compose a draft email to themselves. And I'm speculating on this part, so I don't know that's what they did, what he did, but they compose a draft email and they save it there.

Now, whoever else will have the login credentials for that account, and they can access that anywhere. So it never actually goes over the airway. Another way that this was utilized was General Petraeus. What he was having as a fair. That's how he was talking to this woman. He would just type something, save as draft.

She would log in, look in the draft folder, and they would update their conversation there rather than sending it. So the head of the CIA trusts these counterintelligence. These methods work. You know, encryption on phones works. These types of things work. Now, he was told to do this by someone or he just researched it and did it himself.

But the point is that he had several of those mail sites? Multiple. Yeah, I think I read of at least two. And we don't know what those letters to himself said. We know of a couple of them that they talked about in these court docs. One of them talked about, hey, you should check out this AR with the bump stock. or something like that. And there was something else talking about

how thrilling an AR is or something like that. Again, you can't tell if he's talking to himself or this is somebody else going back and forth. They couldn't tell. Now, he's trying to, he's doing all this because he doesn't want people to find out after the, he doesn't want the investigators after the fact to follow his trail.

Why is he doing that? Now, I've studied these cases from my last job before when I was with a threat assessment and protection company as well when I was in the military. But assassins do not follow this type of profile. This is not the profile of an assassin that just wants to become famous. Most of them, that's what they want. He's avoiding fame as much as possible.

Exactly right. He doesn't want people knowing the motive. He doesn't want to know people to know the story of how he did all of this. You'd think of as a person who's just like trying to set a record, right? I killed the most people. That's kind of would be at least part of your motivation. Or the other is he's a guy who's gotten in trouble. He owes a great deal of money to some nefarious people.

and he's desperate. Either one of those. I want to be famous or I'm desperate. You don't do this. Supposedly he had the cognitive ability. They're saying he might be crazy, but he had the cognitive ability to go through the steps that a high-level al-Qaeda operative

or a spy would go to mask his, the height of tracks. And that sort of works with some of the things we've learned about this guy in that he was really a meticulous person. He was really a mathematical thing He would go and do all these things at the casino to try to get advantage. And he was that type of guy, that gambler's brain.

Right. So some of that is consistent, right? You could see him being a very meticulous person. But why? What's the motivation? That's the question. Right. Why?

And who is he? In my mind, he's protecting some person or multiple people. That's what it sounds like. Now, another document that came out in this release was that his girlfriend might have been a little bit more involved in this than what we actually thought. Now apparently she told the FBI that, oh, you're probably going to find some of my fingerprints on some of the rounds because I helped him load some of the magazines. Yeah. Now, that's a pretty big deal.

Now, apparently, she put the little caveat on that. Oh, but I didn't know he was an attack anybody. Right. She said she did this regularly for him, right? Like it was one of those things where, you know, there's a lot of magazines he's shooting a lot. It's not implausible that she could do that. But it is an interesting detail. My, you know, my children and everybody's fingerprints in my family.

are on the rounds that we have loaded for weapons that I have that we go taking to the, you know, to the shooting range. So, you know, that's not uncommon. It is, it is interesting, though. We've seen this in a couple different cases. The Pulse nightclub shooting being the other recent one is that it starts out as, by the way, we know the significant other had nothing to do with this, had no knowledge. And then slowly over months, we start to learn that out.

You know, like the Pulse nightclub shooting, she's now saying that she knew that he knew that he was going to shoot up the Paul's Nightclub. That's a big freaking deal that made almost no waves. And here, like, it doesn't seem to be that dramatic yet, at least in this Vegas situation. So he traveled a lot, if I'm not mistaken, right? Right. And I'm trying to remember they tried to look to see if he had traveled to the Middle East, and he had, but no real connections there.

Did anybody look to see if he had traveled anywhere near the old Soviet block? I don't remember seeing that. I'm not sure if anyone looked into it, but he did, what's more damning, what's even more damning than actually getting caught traveling to the Middle East as he was back and forth to the Philippines all the time. His girlfriend was actually in the Philippines when this attack went down. And she deleted her Facebook account from the Philippines.

That was the crazy detail in that report. Yeah, I mean, that one was bizarre. So before it was known, or at least publicly known, who the shooter was, she first put her Facebook on private and then deleted it before they had announced

it was her boyfriend who had done the shooting now maybe she got an email from him right before he shot himself and so she knew something was I mean there could be an explanation to that but it didn't seem to be contained in that report that's a crazy detail though

I mean again like before we knew who this person was she was putting her Facebook on private and then deleting it completely I mean maybe she got wind of it early right maybe they started investigating her. It's still not a good idea to start deleting Facebook pages when you're on investigation, but still. I also want to point out, though, that, you know, at the time of the

attack, one of the last ISIS, just want to throw this out there, one of the last ISIS strongholds and holdouts was in the Philippines, in Marawi. I think it would fall about 30 days later or something like that or a few days later. But just going to throw that out there because the one person, organization that did claim responsibility for this, which seemed so ridiculous that it just kind of went poof into the air was the ISIS connection. They stood by it multiple times, kept going after it. I'm just saying. My question is, why is the press not pursuing this?

Now, I know some of this stuff was released on Friday because the press was demanding that they release some things. They've taken the government to court to release some of this information. but I don't see it's it's odd that I don't see the press really going for this and I don't see

the government I've never seen the government behave this way have you no I mean multiple screw ups in the beginning and no no not multiple screw ups

multiple uh changes that were dramatic and not in the first few minutes are the first few hours. Like changes to the storyline much later. And then the only real witness only goes on Ellen

where he's guaranteed to not be asked any tough questions and then disappears. I mean, there's there's just, there's just too many things that aren't right here. Yeah, there's multiple people that I think have a lot to lose if this goes, like I don't really have any doubt that I think the hotel security screwed some stuff up. Yeah.

We've spoken about that before. There's just so many conflicting reports, but there's, it's so hard to get that perfectly right and avoid some kind of litigation and an attack of this magnitude. Yeah. It's not surprising to me. So I agree with you. Some of this could be explained that the hotel is like, oh, geez, are we screwed with lawsuits?

And, you know, they, they don't want anything, you know, they're doing everything they can to cover some tracks of some, some things, procedures not necessarily being followed but I it it's there's more to it than that there's there seems to be more to it than that all right we want to get into uranium one quickly uh with uh jason and also moby has come out and said that he was talked to by the CIA this is the most ridiculous story i have seen and suddenly over the weekend it's almost like somebody called him and said really because he's changed his story now we get to that coming up at a second. So if you're like most Americans, you have an awful lot of debt and it piles up fast, but it doesn't have to be this way. If you own a home and you have some

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A couple of stories here when I ask Jason Betrille, who's our head researcher and former military intelligence, a couple of things. First of all, in relation to uranium one, there was another news dump that happened on Friday, and that is that Mark Lambert, the former co-president of the Maryland-based shipping company, was charged with 11-count indictment. Charges include one count of conspiracy to violate the foreign practices act, also wire fraud, international promotion of money laundering. This ties back to uranium one, Hillary Clinton, and the Russians, which we are going to be

exposing and explaining next week in a chalkboard. Any thoughts on this one, Jason, quickly? I'm curious if this new FBI informant had anything to do with this at all. We knew that he was coming forward and allowed to speak for the very first time. So I wonder if he is starting to spill the beans and maybe there's going to be more things that come out over this, some juicy details. Maybe this is the domino one of a big long chain. We'll see. The second thing was Moby got on radio in Louisville, Kentucky last weekend.

or last week. The first time in many years for moving. And he said that the CIA agents, who he knows, asked him to post on social media about the alleged Trump Russia ties. And they came to him and said, we can't do it, but you can. You got to get the information out. And he's been, you know, obviously very outspoken about Donald Trump. He made that announcement in Louisville last week on a local radio.

show. And then on Saturday retracted all of it and said, okay, okay, the CIA did not tell me to do that, but other intelligence people did. What are your thoughts on that? Total bullcraft. Oh my gosh. What is he smoking?

I mean, that's crazy. CIA does not operate that way. They don't go to people like Moby? Well, you go to the old techno artist is a big target of leaks by the CIA. aren't that. That's why that works.

No. Depeche mode. Wait till you see what they treat. Back. Mercury. The Blaze Radio Network. On demand. Truth. It has been three and a half months since the worst mass shooting in modern American history. The shooter killed 58 people, wounded more than 500 others.

And we still don't have any idea why. Why hasn't a flood of information hit the public by now? I mean, in this day and age, when leaks to the media drop almost daily, we haven't seen a single frame of security camera footage of the shooter inside the hotel. Why? The only thing law enforcement seems sure of now is that they can't nail down an accurate timeline for the attack, but this happened in a casino. There are more cameras there than Great Britain.

than any prison. This is bar none, one of the strangest investigations in modern history. New court documents were unsealed on Friday, and then rather than clearing anything up, they left us more confused than ever. The motive is a mystery. Much of what has to do with the steps that the shooter took to keep everything secret is just starting to come out.

The FBI said that the shooter planned the attack, quote, meticulously, and took many methodical steps to avoid detection of his plot and to thwart the eventual law enforcement investigation that would follow, end quote. Why? Why would he do that? The shooter used multiple email accounts to plan the attack. Not one, but three cell phones were found in his hotel room. One of those phones is so well protected that the FBI hasn't figured out how to unlock it.

that doesn't make sense if there was no motive for the attack if it was just a deranged man with a gambling debt who was he talking to via multiple email accounts and secret burner phones after this new dump of information the explanation that we've been given does not fit the profile assassins don't do these type of attacks

they don't worry about the follow-up investigation to the contrary they want people to know This suggests that the shooter was protecting someone. Was it his girlfriend? Could be. Court documents revealed for the first time that she actually helped the gunman load some of the magazines, and she deleted her Facebook page right after the attack before he was known to be involved. Did she know the attack was going to happen?

Did he reach out to her? Who else was involved? These are the answers that may be locked in that cell phone. These are the answers that we should be asking, and the government should be transparent. When they hide secrets. That's when trouble really starts. Americans deserve the truth. It's Monday, January 15th.

This is the Glenn Beck program. For 50 years ago, Martin Luther King was assassinated. And America... seemed to get better for a while, and we have gone backwards. Did we actually get better, or were we just avoiding the real issues? Tonight in Dallas, a very brave man, is looking to King and his legacy, and is sponsoring a course correction conversation, and it brings it brings people together that I think

I should say this I think all of us would welcome see come together but for some reason it seems like there are forces that want to keep us all apart Alton Sterling was killed by the police in Louisiana if you remember that horrible video he was down on the ground

and the police officer just pulled out his gun and put it to his chest and shot him. This is what sparked a lot of the violence and the reason why three officers were killed in Baton Rouge shortly thereafter. Alton's family coming together with two of the widows of the slain police. officers to find reconciliation and the man who is is putting it all together is is here with us now he started urban specialists urban specialists well I'll let him explain Pastor Omar Jowar how are you sir oh I'm so good to be here I'm glad to be here feel good to be here thank you so tell me tell me what you're doing tonight because I mean you've got the very victims on both sides. You have people like Ted Cruz coming. You have all walks of life coming tonight.

Yeah, you know, Glenn, first, thank you. Thank you for allowing me to be on. You bet. Be on today and what you do. I mean that sincerely. That is step of faith. Thank you because we need that affirmation. But what we're basically doing is what you described in the course correction. It is saying that there is a way that we can reach a higher ground. And the way we reach it is we have to share each other's pain and not point it those who are in pain and say it may be your fault. You got to figure out where do we have that commonality. And no greater, no greater pain is that in the lose a loved one instantly.

See, for the last 20 years, I've been working in an area of gang intervention and youth violence. So I've seen how death can become that sting that never goes away. And so you just kind of bury it and you hide it and you just kind of move on. and you never really heal. And so the way you heal is you got to expose a little bit of that pain. And then you find others who are going through the same thing. And then we join together and say, let's heal together through a shared process of coming together and using our conversations to build and not tear down.

So Martin Luther King talked about reconciliation. And he refused to use the language of winning. losing because for one side to win, the other side has to lose. Right. I'm shocked at how many people are missing this point today. We're all talking about winning, winning, winning. We're all going to lose if that is the case. Absolutely.

And people view reconciliation as weakness. Right. You know, there's this new mantra that says the toughest and the bravest has to be the most arrogant and the most visceral, but that's not true. See, when you're in a jungle, you don't want to become more animal because you can't be more animal than animal. You have to become more human, more civil. You have to go up, not down. But it's easy to just live in your emotion and let that guide you, but it only leads to a sense of debilitating frustration. You'd never get better. You know, I tell guys all the time, man, it may be fun and fashionable.

to be ferocious, but it leaves you empty. And so you can't feel that empty, but emptiness people, one thing, and that's love. And love causes you to be vulnerable. It's like we have figured out, now I'm a Christian, and I tell people I'm my Christ out loud. You know, it's not hidden.

So Christ teaches me that redemption is the point. It's not the step. It is the point that we can be redeemed. And you can't be redeemed unless you've been at that place of brokenness. And so we're saying that God uses broken vessels. And so we're bringing these broken vessels and say, maybe we can build a puzzle called you and me and you and you.

And we figure out how this works because there is good and there is redemption. And all of us, we just got to be bold enough to say, let's do it. So are you finding this harder or easier as the days go on? Oh, man. tonight we're going to have a great time Tuesday I'm going to sleep until Thursday because it's much difficult it's much more difficult than I thought because I figured everyone will be excited about having a way that we heal but you know man it's so many factions and those factions beget more factions and and then you have that buzz called social media that takes words and twist them and

takes ideas and takes your weakest moment and make that your only moment you know yeah and so yeah It's very difficult. You know, like you said, I have those who are from the communities that I normally work in. They say, hold on, hold on, hold on, bitch, hold on. You got Ted Cruz and you got Scarface and you got, you know, Marcus Peters, and you got Dion Sanders and you got Dian Sanders and you, it's not making sense. I said, right, exactly. Jesus had a tax collector and some fishermen and a woman who had a,

some demons and had and there has a chaos. That's the point of this, is that you don't know who God will use. You just got to be willing to allow him to use everyone and don't be afraid. So you can't be afraid to do this. And so, yeah, it's much more challenging than I thought it would be. So Martin Luther King was, I mean, it's amazing to me when you look at Malcolm X. Malcolm X was killed because he figured out reconciliation was the answer. Martin Luther King was demonized and stirred up to his death because of reconciliation.

And I am shocked at the number of people who claim to be really good Christians that feel that love and reconciliation. is ridiculous. Right. And as they say it, I almost think to myself, where is your testimony? Yeah. What Jesus do you believe in? Right. Because that is his entire message.

Right. Right. You know, Glenn, now, you know, you just said those two who were trying to preach redemption, they got killed, so you just made me nervous. I know. I know. I might not show up tonight now. But I think that what happens is a person can get so emotional in the pain that they are suffering, that they actually don't believe the healing is possible.

And so you get comfortable with a limp. And when someone says it may take you during rehabilitation, but you can walk again or you can walk better, you say, I'm okay with this limp because it's easier for me to find others who are limping just like me. And so we all can compare limbs, you know, and rehabilitation. takes some effort on the part of the person who wants to be healed, who wants to be better. I mean, no greater witness than someone who has to walk through it. I mean, the two young ladies from Baton Rouge, Tanya and Trinisha, who are widows of great fallen officers, who, in my opinion, are so, they are so desperately hopeful that my job.

is to make sure that their hope don't leave without a witness. I have to be a witness to them so that they can witness to others that... They are remarkable. I mean, absolutely remarkable. They're going to be joining us here in a few minutes. Yeah, and the way they are in truth. I mean, you know, the light that they shine when I met them. I met them through a young man.

And watched it. It was a guy named Clay. Clay Young in Baton Rouge, who is a business guy, young guy, who said, I don't want my city to go like this. You know, it's 103 murders that has happened in Baton Rouge in one year. And he just decided, this is not how this is supposed to be. And so he started getting people from the north and the south, rich, and the poor and the preachers. And so let's just go walk the community and knock on doors and say, how can we help?

And it was through him, I said, what's the light? He said, man, one thing that lights me up is Trinisha and Tanya. And he introduced me to them. and their passion led me to say, I got to let the world see that they've been in pain but they have not given up. And these can inspire you. One of the words I say is only inspired people can inspire people.

See, you can't be inspired. That's why I love you. I love your passion because inspiration can get and hope can drive you when you don't have product. So you have to find people who are hopeful even when we don't have an answer. They just know this question is answerable. So we're going to keep forging forward

until we find the answer. And then we start finding other answers like the family of Alton Sterling, who are not bitter. They're in pain, but they're not bitter. And I said, we have to show the world that even in the polarized opposites, we can find a place of redemption. And if they can do it, then we can do it. Certainly, if they can do it, they're in much more pain than we are. Right. More in just a second. Stand by. So public invited tonight? Absolutely. And where can they go? Gilles.

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urban specialists and he he has been working with former gang members in prison you also have a you've kind of partnered with a former gang members in prison you also have a you've kind of partnered with a former gang leader, a guy who brought, what is it, the Crips here? The Bloods. The Bloods. Yeah, be careful on that. Yeah, I know, I don't want to get them wrong.

Yeah. And I got to believe that's a, that's not an easy sell. No, I mean, to tell the guy that your, your characteristic is a market advantage, but your character needs to be transformed that no matter how good you are at this it will lead to your death or your permanent imprisonment and for them to believe you

they have to first agree that you are a witness and that I'm not trying to use you for my gain I'm trying to get you at your best height so you can do what God has called you to do I mean that was a very difficult sale but at the end of the day Anton Lucky who you guys will see tonight he has been probably the most

permanent example of transformation that I see. So when I want to see what redemption looks like, I look at him. Is this an event I can bring my kids to? Oh, absolutely. It is absolutely. I'm encouraging everyone, bring your kids, bring your spouses, bring, this, this is that moment that you say, okay, this could work. I mean, this idea of us coming together could work.

You got to see, this is our flair that we're shooting up into the culture. and saying, just look, look at what I see. I'm telling you, Glenn, when you see, when you see the people, because we've got so many people coming on stage, and they are flawed, they're obvious. And they're on both sides. On both sides. You have to left and the right, everybody's Johnson.

You got everyone, man. You got local, national, business leaders, this, that, you know, and I'm saying, can we all just get in this one room? You remember how 9-11 pulled America together? and it was no longer us than them. It was, we had to figure this out and we had to figure it out together. I think that this is a 9-11 moment

in that we are dealing with this idea of violence at its core. See, it's not just the irrational violence of someone getting shot, whether it be police, whether it be community. It's the idea that violence has become an acceptable language to how you deal with pain and conflict.

And when that becomes societal those catchphrase, well, I'll jest, and they deserve, where you get into a dangerous ground because you said something earlier. I was listening to you that it was 58 people murdered in Las Vegas.

And we are now saying, man, what was the trigger that caused him to pull that trigger? It caused him to do that and we really don't know. I'm with you. We need to find out. But at the end of the day, it's because the culture has accepted this language of violence and annihilation as an

acceptable form of dealing with conflict. And then when you can put them in bags, when you can label them, so you can say, yeah, see, he's on the right. And so those right, you know, that's a left. When you can do that easily, then it becomes, see, with a gang, this is what I learned dealing with gangs. Hang on, we got to take a quick break.

We're going to come back, and we're going to introduce you to two widows of fallen police officers who are remarkable. Glenn, back. Mercury. is the Glenn Beck program. Welcome back to the program. It's Martin Luther King Day, and we wanted to spend some time on something that is happening here in Dallas tonight at Gilles,

and you were invited to attend. I want to take, my family has plans tonight, but I can't think of anything more important than this, and my kids should witness because we are all, all of us are going to face this. We all have to decide who we are and where we're headed. Bishop Omar Jawar is with us. He is the founder and CEO of Urban Specialists, and he is doing a course correction conversation tonight.

You can find out all about it at Urban Specialist.org. But he is bringing some people together that don't agree and are feeling pain on both sides. And I want to introduce you to a couple of them, Trinisha Jackson. and she is the widow of Montrell Jackson. He is the Baton Rouge police officer that was killed a couple of years ago, along with his partner, Brad Garofola. Did I say that right? No.

Can you say it for me? It's Garifola. Garifola, sorry. And his widow is here. Tanya, welcome to the program. I'm glad to have you both here. I'm sure that this is one of the last places. you want to be.

And, and Trinisha, you are really, you have a heavy mantle to carry because we, all of us, I think, remember your husband's Facebook post just a couple of days before he was killed. And if I can quote,

I'm tired physically and emotionally disappointed in some family and friends and officers for some reckless comments. But what's in your heart is in your heart. still love you because hate takes too much energy, but I definitely won't be looking at you the same. I swear to God I love this city, but I wonder if this city loves me. When I'm in uniform, I get nasty, hateful looks. I've experienced so much in my short life in these last three days have tested me to the core. Look at my actions because they speak loud and clear. These are

trying times, but please don't let hate infect your heart. This city must and will get better. I'm working in these streets, so any protesters, officers, friends, family, or whoever, if you see me and you need a hug or you want to say a prayer, I got you. How did the two of you not let hate infect your heart after your husbands were taken? Like Montrell said, it takes too much energy. And we were already going through enough grief and pain that we just didn't need hate adding to that. And I feel as if his Facebook post was so prophetic and it was just what I needed to survive, not to let hate infect my heart. And so I've been doing that ever since he has closed his

eyes. I have not been letting hate infect my heart. Even when it's times when I get upset and I'm angry, I go back and I read that post and I remember what he said, not to let hate infect my heart. And that's what I've been doing. I've been walking like that every day. Since July of 2016, you both, my wife hates it when I say this to her, but you both look so tired. We do. You get used to sleeping next to somebody for so long, 16 years, and then all of a sudden it's gone. So, did your husband have anything similar? Did he feel this coming at all? He did. He did. He didn't have Facebook. However, when the Dallas incident happened, I had made a reef to represent the Dallas police, and he had actually sent it out to a mass email to the sheriff's office

people and other law enforcement and saying that he was praying for them and that he had their six. So we were, you know, obviously in Dallas, and my staff was down on the street when the shots rang out. And the protesters were cowering behind trees and cars with us. And we started talking to each other because of that. And we actually heard each other, I think, for the first time. What is it that you guys are, expecting tonight, come together, and why are you here? What do you hope is going to happen?

I want everyone to realize and understand that we all experience pain, and at the end of the day, it's the same pain. And basically, to fix that pain is for us to unite. We need to love on one another and just basically get it together because I know in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, in 2017, the murder rate was through the roof and it's just so much hate, hate. And at the end of the day, when someone loses their life, each family member is hurting and it's pain. And we want our city to get it together. How about you, Tanya? Absolutely. Hoping to come together and learn something from one another, even though our pain is the same, but we could always learn something every day. And learning from their pain and them learning from our pain will definitely help.

You're going to meet the family of a man who was held down on the ground by police officers and then shot in a horrific video. And they are coming tonight. And that video is what stirred people up to kill your husbands. Have you met the family yet? No. What are your thoughts going into it beforehand? I was a little reserved at first, but...

It's not about my personal feelings. I need to let some of that go, and that's what I'm doing, so I can move forward and so I can heal. And I say at the end of the day, those kids have lost their father, and my son has lost their father, has lost his father as well. So I'm looking to see what I can learn from her, and I'm hoping she's looking to see what she can learn from me, because we both are hurting.

Pastor. You know, man, I'm just, say, that's what I'm saying. listening at them, it makes me say, stop playing, get serious with things that we take real serious in their life, for them to be able to speak on it and having, you know, this is not a long time, you know, a year ago. And they are here trying to figure out how we can be a part of something that they have experienced personally. It is just, it's mind-blowing to me. So I'm hoping that everyone sees them and feels what I feel, a sense of obligation to do what Montreal said.

That was strong, and I read it. And I know that this is the time. I know that this is the moment. I'm just, and I feel, and, you know, again, my pastor, so in my spirit, I hear it. I hear the sound. I know it's time for us to do to do this. And it might be difficult, and it is.

And she's right. I've been asking them to do stuff. I know it's been difficult because I know it's time. And there are others who can gain from this moment. If we manage our emotions and get this message out right, this could be a start or something. It was a really difficult conversation that we had here in the studios right after the Dallas shooting because we brought in people who were protesting

and we brought on people over the other side. And to break through the rhetoric, to break through the stuff that you're reading online and the, I want to say from the people who, you know, there's some people that want to watch the world burn. And what we found is a lot of the people that were there were horrified by this and were. and were, they were frightened for their own families and children just in a different way. But we had that in common that we weren't listening to each other. We weren't, they weren't hearing our fear, we weren't hearing their fear. And all we were hearing was the rhetoric. Right.

And that's really hard. Well, you know, before we took a break, that's what I was about to say about gang, what I learned from gang members, is the way you take someone's life is you have to dehumanize them. You have to make them an object. See, the way a Crip kills a blood is he's a blood. The way of blood because he's a Crip and they use all of these words,

but that takes away the idea and all that's a man. That's an individual. That's a family member. She said it right. Those families feel the same pain. I'm going to tell you something. No matter who it is that passes, no matter how treacherous they were,

a person is still shocked and devastated when there is no chance for them to do whatever it is, their life trajectory should do. So I try to remind people that humanity is a precious gift, let's not take it for granted. And sometimes we have to be reminded that this is real, this is not fake. This is it.

We are at a place now where we are dehumanizing. each other. I mean, it's amazing to me. I was on Facebook last night or Twitter and responding to some people who were just filled with, you're not a person because I disagree with you. Right. And is there a turning point? Is there a place to where it's too late? Well, I'm hoping not. I'm hoping not. That's why we're having this course correction. But I believe that there's a place where we have so many casualties of that type of behavior that even when we recover, we will recover at a lower state than we were. You know, there's a time when things can become apocalyptic in the way we approach it.

I mean, you can become the survival of the fittest. See, whenever you get into survival mode, then you can suspend rules. So people say, I'm in survival mode. So it's okay. I do this because, and that's how, that's what we have turned. that ratcheted up this nods. You know, I want people to understand. This is Tanya, and it was Brad.

I want people to hear that, that's Trinisha, it was Montreal. I want them to hear that. I want you to go through your cycle. I want you to hear Andrika. She called him a seedy man. She didn't call him Alton. She, you know, when you see the little babies, they are babies. I saw her baby yesterday, and he's a big boy, too.

He's going to be big. And, you know, I understand that this is very full circle. But sometimes we can try to shrink it because we want it to be appropriate to the pain we feel. And that's not what you do. You can't do drive-bought analysis on complicated issues. You got to stay there for a moment. I didn't know you went out when the protesters did it. I didn't know you had people here.

I did the same thing. We had, we actually had. the day after the shooting, we brought the protesters and the police together. And it was a very emotional, very tough conversation. We got a lot of heat because we actually interviewed the family of the shooter and just listened to them and didn't glorify the shooter by any chance. But we really need to listen to each other. We really need to listen to each other.

Thank you so much for coming. And thank you for being such a good example. for your husbands and their memory. And we are truly sorry for your loss. Thank you. God bless you both. So just before Christmas, the head of FEMA, his name is Brock Long, told the media that he wanted everybody to understand a couple of things.

One, FEMA is broken. Two, the system is broken. And three, this is the normal. So in other words, if disaster strikes, you have to take care of yourself. Next hour, we have a couple of people that experienced what happened in Hawaii this weekend. Two very different experiences. One, a family with a small child in a hotel room, cowering in the bathroom for 45 minutes as they were waiting to be possibly vaporized by a missile that never came.

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Glenn, back. You know, I, um, the thing that I think made me popular, uh, at one point, uh, was something that I actually pray that I shed and that I lose, and that is certitude, certainty. You know, there's something about following somebody and listening to them when they say, I know, follow me, this is it. It's very powerful.

But it is also, I think, a, disease that is crept into us that we are all so certain that we know and that everyone else is wrong that it stops us from hearing and listening to each other i pray that we can be a society that is less certain of what we know and more certain that we don't know Glenn Beck. Mercury. Truth. Glenn Beck. All right. The Department of Homeland Security has begun processing applications again for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, aka DACA. DACA. This is going to continue to operate long after a deal on the program is reached later this week.

Now, is this a surprise to anyone? shouldn't be because both Republicans and Democrats want DACA. They always have. And so does the president. Trump, after all, has a big heart. He has boasted about his big heart, you know, on several occasions. Last year, he said, quote, we are going to show great heart. DACA is very, very difficult subject for me.

They are here illegally, and they shouldn't be very worried. I do have a big heart. We're going to take care of everybody, end quote. Trump may have also said that he would immediately terminate DACA, but that was so two years ago. So I'm not sure which is which now. DACA is dangerous to both political parties because they are legislating based on emotion, when we should be legislating based on the Constitution. It's not the children of illegal immigrants' fault that they are here.

They are innocent, but their parents are not. So what is the consequence? Is there a consequence for breaking the law? If not, do we have laws? These are the conversations that we need to have. When it comes down to it, make no mistake, DACA is amnesty. We'll have to make the decision to accept or reject amnesty. Apparently, in Washington, they are telling us that the American people will accept it.

It's Monday, January 15th. This is the Glenn Beck program. The U.S. Pacific Command has detected a missile threat to Hawaii. A missile may impact on land or sea within minutes. This is not a drill. If you are indoors, stay indoors. If you are outdoors, seek immediate shelter in a building. Remain indoors well away from windows. If you are driving, pull safely to the side of the road and seek shelter in a building or lay on the floor.

We will announce when the threat has ended. This is not a drill. That had to have been absolutely terrifying. That's what was heard this weekend in Hawaii. There was an alert that cruise missiles were coming and they were nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. Do something. What? Imagine the panic that you've done.

would have felt. We have a couple of people that I want to talk to and just feel how they felt over the weekend. The first one is Adnan Meza Wala. Adnan, welcome. Good morning. How are you? I'm very good.

You were visiting the Hawaiian Islands. Are you still there? Yes, I am. Okay. You were there in the hotel room. with your wife and your two-year-old. Sorry, two-month-old. Two-month-old.

Yep. Along with my parents, yeah. So tell me what happened. What time was it, and how'd you find out, and what was it like? So I don't recall exactly what time it was. I would have you know it was prior to check out. We were just getting things together. We were about to utilize our additional time that we had to go down to the beach prior.

when we all of a sudden got a notification and picked up the phone. Now it went off on my phone and my father's phone who was up in the room with us while we're getting one together. And it just kind of throws off initially. I don't really know how to react when you have a notification like this. This is a very much, very Cold War era kind of mentality where all of a sudden, you know, they're teaching kids to get under their deaths. So, of course, you know, in this modern era, it's not something that we're prepared for to start conceptualizing. So, you know, initially I thought it was a mistake.

I thought it was nothing. And then shortly afterwards, it kind of really dawned on me quickly that I can't take this lightly. And so we quickly started putting on shoes, grabbing our essentials that we would need in preparing to run. I took my two-month-old, put them in a stroller, and also had our carrier with us just in case. I had to take a lump and go. The hotel was very responsive. We're saying at the Hyatt Regency, and they told us to kind of stay indoors and stay in our 36th floor, too. And, you know, if a missile attack's happening, the last thing I want to do was be 364.

So weird. So first of all, I'm trying to just, because I tried this weekend to picture in my own head, the first thing that I would think of was this is bogus. This is, this is not happening. It's true. It's true. I mean, you know, today's era of technology, when I saw this notification, and first in my head is this can't be true.

The second thing was, while the U.S. has enough technology that if a missile was coming up, I would assume that they'd be able to knock it off, knock it out in the air prior to even coming to land. But then, I mean, you start playing the scenario. Okay, so wait, how long did you live in that world before you started to go into, wait a minute? I think it took us all of about five to seven minutes I would say before I was just like all right nope let's take a different route here and you could tell like as minutes would go by there was just I felt a little bit more uncertainty a little more distraught and a little more

panic to it to a point where I remember in kind of a stern voice like you need to forget about your bags, grab your passports, grab your wallet, put your shoes on, we have to go. You know, in a very strong voice. It was just at that point that I realized, like, you know, this could be for real. So did you call or did you turn on the TV or the radio? Did you at all think this is not, it's not that it's, you know, that it's not going to happen to the missiles, but that it was a hack or it was a joke or it was something. something. No, I mean, so we definitely turn on the news kind of simultaneously. I think in our political

environment right now, these are real, real potentials, you know? I would say, you know, we talk about hacking systems, whether it's a hack or not, you know, these are things that have been constantly been reported on whether North Korea will actually act, whether the U.S. will depend itself to a point where we really need to start understanding the consequences of these conversations and what this is leading into. I think in general, people are going to take this scenario itself and start contemplating whether they need to do drills, whether they need to say, do I need to have preparedness at home?

Just remembering the, you know, I'm too young to remember. I wasn't alive during the Cold War era. So, you know, thinking about just whole the Y2K scenario when $8,000 was coming out, how people was starting to prepare. It really feels like something along those lines where people are going to be like, okay, well, we need stockpile food. What if this is going to be a real scenario? I just can't fathom how this will play out in the long run. You know, a mistake is a mistake. That's fine.

But this also opens like a can of worm, you know, we as a general population are going to start discussing this. in a more serious tone. Adnan Maziwala, he is in Hawaii. He and his family were in Hawaii for a 40th anniversary of his parents' marriage and the false missile alert went out. Was there a time that you saw or anyone saw or anyone in your party started to panic at all? Or was everybody pretty calm? I think it was a more progressive ten of nature.

I think my wife definitely had, so I would say my dad initially, he reacted by, you know, quickly taking my son and putting him in a stroller and then putting him in the bathroom because that was the one place that didn't have windows. It was furthest away from the windows. My wife slowly started gathering essentials, things that my son would need. And you can see in everyone's faces that minutes would go by, the more anxiety would build up in terms of, you know, the reality of this warning. You know, I think a lot of us were on the brink of, you know, emotional kind of hitting that limit where we felt like we were about to cry. At soon as we found out this was a false event, we were just kind of like, wow, I can't believe this just happened. what has changed in your in your mind or your life or your family

is anything did it was anything clarified for you nothing was clarified in the in a sense of you know this was a mistake in terms of the broadcaster system things like this can happen there's a human doctor and a lot of things

I think we're enjoying your vacation. We've moved past this in terms of being able to continue to celebrate my parents' anniversary. But what has really kind of become more of a reality is that we as, you know, U.S. citizens listening to conversations that are happening on the sideline, and we are bystanders and all of us. And I think that's really come to become a more of. a seriousness where, you know, no longer can we really accept these conversations that are happening regarding, you know, who has the bigger missile or who wants to be the first to act. It's kind of, kind of more of a we need a more peaceful society in general. People shouldn't be living

their life in fear, and I think that's what's kind of soaked into us here as we move forward, that how do we come and reconcile and enjoy the moments we have, you know, through our lives without constantly being worried that something may happen. Adnan, thank you very much. God bless. Now, there was somebody else on the island. This is a retired naval commander. His name is Tom Bellet, and he is on with us now.

Tom, where were you when the alert? came and did you believe it right away? Oh, good morning, Glenn. Ironically, I was helping a friend here in Kailua Town on Oahu's Wemmerich side install a generator as part of his emergency preparedness plan. I received the alert on my cell phone and I made my first decision immediately to return home instead of sheltering in place. And on my way home, I contacted my wife and we both arrived home at about the same time. Did you both take it? at face value when you heard it? We certainly did.

Both my wife and I are career military officers, so we take warnings and preparedness pretty seriously. We received the alerts on our phones, and it began to occur to me, though, as I was driving home, that we weren't seen the other warning systems activate, such as the newly restarted warning sirens, and there was no broadcast interruptions on radio TV or TV. And very shortly after we both got home,

we both began to receive the messages via e-eseration, email announcing that the warning was called off, was a false alarm. And then nearly half an hour later, the cell phone message announced a false alarm as well. So we just talked to somebody who was in, I think, the Hyatt on Oahu and, you know, it was away from everything. You are a guy who you sound prepared. Were you this calm? Were you going home to hunker down and you knew you could survive?

and well we've had some pretty serious lessons learned I think in the last few months especially in Puerto Rico where we've seen what happened recently and have to acknowledge that we're going to have to take care of ourselves here and consequently we're prepared to do so for up to 60 days as recommended by the state of Hawaii. At any point did you think if this is real and it's from North Korea.

There's really no, you know, it's kind of like the duck and cover hide under your desk. Well, uh-huh. That's not going to stop the, you know, fires of hell. Was there any time that you were noodling this through going, this is not going to work? Well, we certainly hope for the best, but we plan for the worst.

You're correct. We don't have a lot of infrastructure here in place to do much more than to seek the best option possible to protect ourselves from an initial blast, the ensuing radiation, and then, of course, the loss and denial of services across the spectrum, communications, power, water, everything that we take for granted is going to go away for a while, and it could be quite some time. So, yeah, it's a pretty scary thing to think about. Fortunately, we have a plan.

Fortunately, we were able to execute that plan fairly easily. were very, very relieved, obviously, that this was not only a false alarm, but that no one was hurt here in those initial few minutes of responding. That could have gone a lot worse. Did you see any panic from anyone? No. As a matter of fact, I didn't. It was a pretty quiet Saturday morning here in this residential town that's fairly far away from the streets and hotels and high rises of Waikiki. I did notice the folks that were driving with a little bit more sense of urgency. But you, of course,

course, kept to the speed limit. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, of course you did. Of course you did. All right. Tom, thanks so much. And we're glad Hawaii is safe. And man, what a, what a frightening Saturday morning you had. God bless.

May we live in interesting time, Glenn, come visit us. Yes, we do live in interesting times. Thanks so much. One of the most interesting things about the Hawaii thing from this weekend was that we've all played that game where if you had 30 minutes to live, what would you do with it? And an entire state basically had to answer that question and attempted on the fly. And I wonder how many of them were happy with their decision.

And on the other side, someone like Tom was actually prepared, you don't think about it the same way. If you're prepared, you notice that? Yeah, that was really, I thought, interesting. Yeah. He was just like, we just went home. We knew what we were supposed to do and we executed it. It's not the last half hour. You go and you put a plan into place and you survive it. Right. Like, that's your plan. It's a totally different way of thinking about it from, I think, most of the tourists that were there just like, oh, wow, we're about to die. We should hug each other really tight. You know, I mean, I wonder how many, I wonder how many couples, you know, we're like,

we're going out. Oh, yeah, you got to go for it at that point. It's at least a good argument from the guy for once. It's like, look, come on, I need, half an hour. And she says, I don't want to spend my last half an hour doing that. Not with you. All right. Go out of the pool so if I can find somebody interesting.

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Thought it was really good. I was a little worried, because I'm interested in stories like that. Yeah. But I was a little worried it would be so annoying in our current context with the meaning of praising itself. I was really concerned. You know, there was, I think I went because it was Spielberg. And I thought if anybody's going to do this right at Spielberg.

And I thought there was actually, I mean, I'm sure nobody in Hollywood are on the left picked this up. Even though they always write it themselves. They write it and they produce it and they think about it. And yet it doesn't ever seem to connect with them. But at one point or several points, they talk about this been going on forever. This was Truman. This was Eisenhower.

This was Jack. And they start to realize at the end, one of the big points is the press should not be friends with politicians. You know, Jack was using them, keeping them close to bring them in on the inside. So they wouldn't question these things and they wouldn't report those things. Right. And now with the press,

it's very important that they're at, adversarial to the administration. So that message connects. But it didn't connect when they had Barack Obama. Barack Obama and tons of media members going directly from the media into his administration and otherwise. Exactly right. It didn't seem to connect at all that. So I thought it was a really balanced telling of the story.

I didn't feel any kind of propaganda in it. I thought it was a, it's a, it's an interesting look, especially if you live during those times, how much life has changed. Glenn. Back, Mercury, the Glenn Beck program. So it was a good weekend for Stu. Hawaii was almost vaporized. I don't care about anything else.

People living in crap hole countries. Yeah, I didn't, I don't care about any of the news. I only care about the Philadelphia Eagles who are still mysteriously and magically alive. Pat Gray is joining us now. So it was, you know, there's, I mean, there's no way they win this weekend. There's no way they win. I mean, I hold out hope. Of course.

They are the underdogs again. Don't hold on. What year were you born? 1976. What year did they first go to the Super Bowl? They went to the Super Bowl in 1981 and 2005, 2004, 2005. When did you start becoming an Eagles fan? I don't know exactly.

This is all a mystery. What I'm wondering is, is it possible you are that your fandom is the reason why they don't win the Super Bowl? Well, they didn't win anything for 16 years before my birth. The last time they won the championship was 1960. They felt a disturbance in the force. They felt something coming. Yeah. Wow. There's like a million voices cried out and then was suddenly silenced. It's possible. It seems unlikely. Just from Stubergear's birth? Yes. Wow. Yes. All right. Yeah. It certainly hasn't helped them. I'll tell you that. Whatever that means. So you're going to Minneapolis. Very excited. I'm sorry, what?

We're excited to take in Minneapolis in the winter. It's a great location for a Super Bowl. Yeah. What was it like nine this weekend? If it was nine. When the first day I checked as we were getting closer, he started looking at the temperatures of these cities. And Minneapolis, the first day I checked it was minus four.

That's just the temperature to do, not the wind chill and all that other stuff that gets on top of that. Yeah. So I'm really hope. I mean, they do seem to have days of the 30s. Would you go if it were outdoors in Minneapolis? Oh, yeah. You'd still go. You still go.

You suck it up. I don't know how. I just layer. Oh, there's no way you suck it up. Oh, I suck it up. If it's four below zero. This guy won't suck it up and go to... He won't go to Israel.

Right. But he'll suck it up and... Yeah, I'd go to Israel if they had the Super Bowl there. And then they start throwing that thing in Jerusalem and I'm there. Maybe trouble get that done too. Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with that. But yeah, no, I'd say it. The fighting Jews and the Palestinian Tigers really doesn't sound like...

No. It would be a strange event. I don't think there'd be real excitement for it in Jerusalem. All right. So, Pat, what is on your mind today? I'm seeing some signs of some common sense being injected into the Me Too movement. Have you guys been following the French women and their plea to have a little sanity before you take away sex between men and women completely?

It's interesting that any kind of sensibility would come from France. 100 French women. It's about sex. Yes, that's true. And they pride themselves on sexual liberation. And that was part of their point was that you're going to ruin sexual liberation here. Men aren't going to be able to hit on women anymore. And they, of course, are being beaten practically to death over this.

The final passages challenged the fight is kind of, sends the message that the challenge ahead for France is that, you know, maybe the seduction thing at work and the seduction thing that they have going on in their society is going to have to stop. And I don't think these women, Catherine Deneuve, do you remember her big French film actress? She's the most probably noted person in this. And it looks like they're getting a lot of pushback from the Me Too movement people. But there is a difference.

It's like, who's the guy on, is it Netflix? is on the skinning so much heat right now. Netflix Zizan Sari. Yeah, tell that story. So he is a, he's an actor on, he's a comedian, does the show Master of None on Netflix, which is pretty funny. So the story was that a young woman,

um, uh, is given the name Grace in the story. It comes from some publication called Babe or something. I've never even, I've never heard of it. That's not demeaning. Um, but, uh, so,

uh, so Ansari meets this woman. at a party. She's excited about it. He's a celebrity. He initially brushes her off, but they find out that they have something in common with photography and wind up talking. He texts her when they get back to New York, asks if she wants to go out. She's excited. She spends a lot of time choosing her outfit, texting pictures of it to friends. They have a glass of wine in his apartment. They go through dinner. They rush through dinner at an expensive restaurant. They go back to his apartment. Within minutes of returning, she was sitting on the kitchen counter and he was apparently consensually

performing a sex act on her. So you have that going on. Then she decides, he's like pressuring her to go further, right? It seems like everything's consensual. Eventually she becomes overcome by her emotions at the way the night is going. And she says, you guys are all the effing same. And eventually leaves crying. Okay.

Wait. My gosh. Wait. You've just done this on the kitchen counter. Right. And when he says, maybe we should retire, you know, to the boudoir, to the boudoir, you people are all the same. I wanted to do something different in the sink. And then in the fireplace. Okay. All right. Okay. So it's an odd line, but she's drawn the line and she's leaving. Right. She decides to leave eventually, although she at one point says, yeah, you know, maybe we should take it a little slower, comes back out, they sit again, things get fired up again, they go through the process again. So there's a lot that goes on here. And all of it seems consensual.

At the end, she feels a little bit, I don't know, I guess. Guilty? Maybe guilty. And decides to leave. Now, there's been an interesting pushback on this from the other side saying, wait a minute, this just seems like kind of like a somewhat negative hookup experience, not sexual assault as it's being presented. And the Atlantic has a big story about this from Caitlin Flanagan.

She writes, was Grace Frozen, terrified stuck? No. She tells us that she wanted something from Ansari. and she was trying to figure out how to get it. She wanted affection, kindness, attention. Perhaps she hoped maybe even to become this famous man's girlfriend. He wasn't interested. What she felt afterwards rejected yet another time by yet another man was regret.

And what she and the writer who told her story created was 3,000 words of revenge porn. Together, the two women may have destroyed in Zari's career, which now is the punishment for every kind of male sexual misconduct from grotesque to disappointing. That is unbelievable. And James Franco is going through a similar situation. So this is the kind of thing that the sexual revolution was all about. Yeah. This was about, hey, I'm a woman and I can do whatever I want. And, you know, we're two consensual adults, yada, yada, yada.

No, now if you go and you do whatever you want and maybe you're fighting in your own head, I don't know if I should do this or not, but you do it, what? It's the guy's fault? Do you have no self-will? No agency. There's no agency. No responsibility. None.

All the responsibilities on the men here. You have to at least express it. They can't very much. You have to express that this is something you don't want to do if you don't want to do it. If anything happens after that point, it's the guy's fault completely. But it has to be expressed in some way. The safe word is no. The most damning of the accusations against James Franco is a lot like that.

He was involved in a relationship with a woman. And they were out one night and he asked her to perform a little movement on him. And she said, no, I think they were in a car. And she said, can't we do this later? And he said, no, and he kind of nudged her. And so she said, so I did it because I didn't want him to hate me. Well, okay, that is your, you just chose while you're in a relationship to do that. Did you hear about the other one that came out this weekend?

which was Stephen Segal. I knew he was being accused of something. I don't know what though. So they are rape. I mean, it's some bad allegations on Stephen Seagall. And the LAPD is is investigating. And some pretty important women are saying rape. However, there's one that she's my hero.

She's my absolute hero. She said she was told by her agent that she was to meet Stephen Segal like at 9.30 at night in his hotel room. And she was driving, she's like, my agency is pimping me out. They're pimping me out to this guy. Wow. Yeah. And that is something that I have heard.

We've never talked about. I've talked to some people in that world. And that is something that happens, right? Happens. Yeah. Okay. Happened with Weinstein, too. Yeah.

So the agency was pimping her out. she goes she knocks on the door he's you know exposed and he says come on in and she says i don't think so and uh slams the door and leaves she said so nothing happened but yeah but nothing happened and if he would have tried to do something i would have kicked his ass now hey you wouldn't know because it was stephen seagall but good for her yeah she knew who she was. She knew her value. That's the problem. People don't know their value. Yeah, that's interesting. Two things of this. One, this isn't a contractual conversation. This is a dance between a man and a woman. And if you're not able to, if you're not able or willing to at least indicate that you are not willing to go to the next step,

there's not a checkbox of 12, here's are the 12 things I'd like to do today. And please check off the ones you're comfortable with. But we're going to get there. We've talked about the bit that you did on Wonderful World of Stu a couple of times where, you know, you've got to have the couple sign in triplicate. And you've got to have a permission slip for every single act and every movement. It's coming to that. I mean, that is not outrageous anymore. It is. And the other thing is, remember when like, I don't remember which president of France it was had a fair.

I mean, I guess they all seem to have affairs in France. Right. And conservatives were calling them out and saying, look at this. the French Frenchmen having affairs everywhere. And we were mocked by liberals who told us the only natural way that men and women react at work is to have affairs with each other. It happens all the time. All these other countries are enlightened and they don't care.

They don't hold their politicians to any standard. Now we're told that there can never be any contact. You basically can't even talk to a woman or your job's going to be destroyed. Yeah. So here's a bad thing. If this doesn't turn around, if the French are right and it starts to keep, kill that relationship, the free market will produce what you want. Sex robots.

Yes. Yes. Yes. You will stop that action between men and women. You will. Certainly single men and women. When these robots become real. Yeah. I mean, and then that leads you to the consciousness of ASI and they'll kill us all if we're using them as. sex receptacles. They'll kill us all when they gain consciousness if they ever do. But we in 30 years, are you telling me that you couldn't see us as a society that just has the scientists, you know, make our baby. I'm going to gene splice. I'm going to have a perfect child, you know, kind of the

Gattaca kind of thing to where you're gene spliced. And I'm going to do that and we're going to have a baby, but not that way. I'm hooking up with this device. That's what happens. The device apparently never has a headache, is never not in the mood, right? You don't have to worry about any of those things. You don't have to worry about cuddling afterwards.

No. It could really change things. And you don't have to worry about if she's faking it. She's faking. She's fake. So yes, she's faking. Thanks, back. Well, with Glenn Beck, it always ends with A.S.

is going to kill us because we've abused our sex robots. That's the way the conversation typically ends these days. I don't know. Maybe Pat will get... Is that better than a bullet name? He always ends in the bullet and head. I think the sex robot won in the superior. I don't know.

Maybe Pat will get into that today on Pat Gray on Leashed on the Blaze Radio and TV networks. Also on iTunes where you can get the podcast. Did you hear Anzari's statement, by the way? Aziz Ansari's his response to this? No. In September of last year, I met a woman at a party. We exchanged numbers. We texted back and forth and eventually went on a date.

We went out to dinner. And afterwards, we went out to dinner. ended up engaging in sexual activity, which by all indications was completely consensual. The next day, I got a text from her saying that although, quote, it may have seemed okay, end quote, upon further reflection, she felt uncomfortable. It was true that everything did seem okay to me, so when I heard that it was not the case for her, I was surprised and concerned. I took her words to heart and responded privately after taking the time to process what she had said. I continue to support the movement and all that is happening in her culture. It is necessary and long overdue.

I mean, it's like, how do, you know, you never know. If you can change your mind after the fact and then say, well, you just pushed me. Well, no, I thought it was consensual. Well, it seemed fine at the time, but I've changed my mind. Yeah, that's, that's insane. You can't retroactively make your mind up like that. That's, it's unfair. But in today's world?

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So we're talking about how you can't retroactively after a sexual encounter say that you didn't like it when you said you liked it in the moment or you were, it was consensual in the moment. That doesn't become, you can say that, but it's ridiculous. You know, you could say, oh, that was great. then the next day go, right, but you can't say it's non-consensual retroactively.

Denise writes in on Twitter at World of Stu that retrospect is called your conscience. It's telling you that you should not have done that. Millennials don't understand that concept.

They just immediately blame someone else for feeling bad and regret. That's true and scary. Glenn, back. Mercury.