The Glenn Beck Program - 6/19/17 - The end of the valedictorian

Episode Date: June 19, 2017

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Blaze Radio Network On Demand. Hello America. Welcome to Monday. A lot going on. There's a suspected terror attack in London. It was kind of the reverse. Somebody took a van and mowed into a lot of Muslims as they came out of mosque.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Things are starting to heat up. We'll tell you about an idea that I had over the weekend. that I think we're going to do tomorrow. I wrote to a lot of people, many of whom will remain nameless, but all leaders that you could respect, and then people like, I don't mind exposing this, Brad Thor, who are in the science fact kind of, or fact in fiction sort of world,
Starting point is 00:00:51 where they write these fiction books, but they're all really, it's all based in fact. And I asked them, what would we be looking at a week later, if a lot of people, if not all of the people, the 30 congressmen and senators were killed last Tuesday, what would America look like a week later? I'll begin to tell you a little bit about that coming up in just a second. Also, a high school has abandoned their valedictorians because competition is bad. Cosby missed trial.
Starting point is 00:01:32 They couldn't come to a decision. And when you read about it and you see what was presented, I don't know if I could have come to a decision on that. And one other trial that really to me is a bit confusing. And confusing because people are saying, this person had no liability, no responsibility. It's suicide is the act of the individual. It is.
Starting point is 00:02:04 But do we play a role at all in other people's lives? A really dangerous, slippery slope kind of question that we begin with right now. Entertainment and Enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Hello America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I'm so glad that you're here. Let's start with the story.
Starting point is 00:02:53 of a girlfriend who, in a case that took in thousands of text messages, Michelle Carter was dating a guy named Conrad, Conrad Roy III. He was a friend of hers, and I use that in air quotes, and he had said to her for a while, I'm going to kill myself. I'm going to kill myself. I'm going, you know what? I'm going to kill myself this Friday. She encouraged him through text messages.
Starting point is 00:03:32 You should do it. Initially discouraged him for months and told him not to do it and then eventually started encouraging him to do it. Right. I'm going to tell you a very personal story that I've never told before on the air that relates to this in the case. some way as a story of devil's advocate.
Starting point is 00:03:55 But she was just convicted of, what was it, third-degree manslaughter? I thought was an involuntary manslaughter? Okay. Involuntary manslaughter, because he got out of the truck, he put himself at the garage, started his truck up, started breathing in the fumes, he stumbles out of the truck, gets out, texts her. Because he got scared, right? He didn't want to.
Starting point is 00:04:18 He didn't want to die. and she said, what is wrong with you? Get back in the truck. And then she never called police, never alerted nothing. In fact, she actually created a charity softball game, I think, too, in his memory after his death. And, you know, try to, she was communicating with friends saying that he was missing before he had actually committed suicide. I mean, she, a very disturbed individual. No, I think she's really disturbed.
Starting point is 00:04:48 and she actually, he calls her, and he's choking and coughing, and she actually listens to him die over the phone. She does nothing. So now this case goes to court, and there's a lot of people that say she has no responsibility. Suicide is a personal choice, and it was.
Starting point is 00:05:13 It was his choice to listen to her. It was his choice to. do it. She didn't start the car. She didn't do any of that. However, you're playing on the mind of somebody who is obviously ill. You are, don't we have a personal responsibility to help one another, to first do no harm? And that was doing harm. And it wasn't just that moment. It was weeks and weeks leading up to it. It was things like, you know, you're sure, yeah, your parents will be upset at first, but they'll get over it. It's okay. She texted him. You're finally going to be happy in heaven. No more pain. It's okay to be scared in normal. I mean, you're about to die.
Starting point is 00:05:58 That's so frightening. She did it over and over and over and over again over a period of weeks, if not months, if I'm not mistaken. So, I mean, she really went at this. Right. And if you're a, friend, and they're say boyfriend, really, boyfriend, girlfriend, there's, at least that was the rumored relationship between them. I mean, that is, that is sick. That is really sick. This girl has some deep issues. And we should point out, too, that he had already attempted suicide previously. So it wasn't one of these things where I didn't believe he'd even try it. He'd already tried it a couple times.
Starting point is 00:06:29 She couldn't say that because she was listening to him. She listened to him die and did nothing. I didn't, I mean, she listened to him die. It was on the phone. He, that point where he gets out of the truck and she talks him back into the truck. It is pretty frightening. So the argument, and you might say that's open and shut, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Because I mean, I think my mind jumped to people like Charlie Manson, who never killed anybody. Charles Manson didn't kill people. He encouraged others to kill people, and they did. And he is in prison forever, right, because of that. What about the guy, the blue whale guy? Sure. If you don't know this, this is terrifying. It's terrifying.
Starting point is 00:07:10 This is a guy in Russia who is online, and he's. He says, I've got the greatest challenge ever. And anybody who takes me up on this challenge, if you follow it all the way through, you will commit suicide. You'll gladly commit suicide. Take up the challenge. And these kids, most of them 15, 17 years old, they get online and they take the challenge.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And he offers, I don't know how many challenges per day, maybe 30 or 45 days and you have to every day it starts with something small you have to do his challenge well about halfway through he says that you have to kill
Starting point is 00:07:59 a cat or a dog or a defenseless animal studies have shown that the people who kill the animal finish it the ones who don't kill the animal don't kill themselves
Starting point is 00:08:15 okay And what he does is it's a group process. You get into this game and then others who are playing the game, shame you. This all goes really to the Jonathan Haidt book that I've been reading The Righteous Mind on how the mind works. Once you set it into a path, as long as you have people around you, if you start to go off the path, as long as your friends are like, no, no, go, do it. You pretty much will. It takes very, very few people will actually break from their friends. And so the peer pressure is great to continue to go and to do these things. Well, at the end, he keeps you up. And so you're tired, you're disoriented. He makes you get up in the
Starting point is 00:09:11 middle of the night and do things, and then he's constantly disrupting your sleep pattern towards the end. Well, by the end, you're in a weakened state, and the last one is kill yourself. And I don't remember how many, is it? 10, 15 people that he killed. And he's still doing it by mail, no longer on the internet, because he's in jail in Russia, but they say they can't stop him. Here's the idea. He's in jail. Stop him from writing the letters. You're Russia. So, I mean, how hard is that? So when he was in under investigation and on trial, he said, I'm only thinning the herd. All of these people are too weak to live. So I'm just thinning the herd and getting rid of the weak ones. Well, he's in jail? What did he do wrong? If she didn't do wrong, he didn't do wrong. If she didn't do
Starting point is 00:10:11 wrong, Manson didn't do wrong because he never killed anyone. He just encouraged others to do it. Yeah, it's weird. And I don't know about you at this point, particularly in our history, I find stories that are not just based on partisan lines a lot more interesting. Yes. Because you can't tell who really believes the arguments they're making anymore. I mean, that really is the thing. This is from David French. however, who's from the National Review, conservative. This is what he says. I see two problems with this verdict.
Starting point is 00:10:38 One moral or the other legal. First, Conrad Roy, the boyfriend, is responsible for his death. To argue that Carter committed manslaughter is to diminish Roy's moral agency. It denies his free will. It's wrong to deny compassion to someone who's troubled that they might commit suicide. But we can't move so far in the other direction that we race to find who's really to blame when a person voluntarily takes their own life. Okay, hang on just a second.
Starting point is 00:11:01 it's not that she didn't offer compassion. Right, she encouraged it. She encouraged it. It's still an act of self-murder, and while Carter undoubtedly played a persuasive role, I can't imagine where we will draw the line. Okay, so that is, I mean, that is, hang on, let me give you, I have a personal story that relates directly to this,
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Starting point is 00:14:02 This is. The Glenn Beck Program. So we're talking about this girl who Friday was convicted of involuntary manslaughter because she encouraged her boyfriend to commit suicide. And she was actually on the phone encouraging him while he did it. She listened to him. He got out of a truck in a garage and he had for months said he was going to do it. She was encouraging him for months.
Starting point is 00:14:32 And he got out and he said he was afraid, called her. She said, what are you doing out of the truck? You promised you were going to do it. You're going to be fine. Get back in the truck and listen to him while he died. Wow. Horrible. Now, the conservative point of view from David French is two parts.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And I want to address the first part before we get to the second. The first part is, we should have compassion and we can't regulate because it is your free choice to kill yourself well yes it is yes it is
Starting point is 00:15:15 but let me share something about my mother's suicide I didn't know my mother was suicide none of us kids knew that she was suicidal but my grandparents did my aunt did. And they had encouraged her to get help, et cetera, et cetera. And she apparently, in the last year of her life,
Starting point is 00:15:43 had threatened this a lot. And the family had done everything that they could, and she wouldn't take any of the advice, and she wasn't doing what she was supposed to do. And one day, she went over to my aunt's house, and my aunt was, very frustrated with my mother and she said
Starting point is 00:16:04 my mother said you know Joanne I'm just going to do it and my aunt looked at my mother and said you know what Mary then just do it now this is that's not what her advice was her advice the whole
Starting point is 00:16:22 time was seek help get help we're here for you but you have to change your life she was tired of hearing what she thought was an empty threat just to what gain sympathy or whatever she didn't understand it my aunt carried that around for decades after my mother died because my mother committed suicide about i think it was five days later four five days later and my aunt immediately thought oh my gosh and i told her to do it no sweetheart you didn't you didn't you um you said something very human in a moment of frustration
Starting point is 00:17:08 with a sister who had been threatening to do it for a long time and you supported for years and that's a different thing than we're talking about totally different so i understand because partly i am afraid that you uh you have a moment like that and anybody could be blamed for it. And that's not what we're talking about. This is somebody who over months was encouraging. Now, the second part of his argument is where it gets dangerous. And it gets dangerous because we no longer have a right and wrong. We no longer have a moral foundation for our country. And for us as humans, we can't agree on what is right and wrong. So we need the judge to do it. and don't think that there will be people that will use this case to make all kinds of points.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And here's where David French makes sense. He says, second, the First Amendment implications are real with this verdict. Carter's actions, the girls' actions were reprehensible, but she was sharing with him thoughts and opinions that he may have found persuasive but had the capacity to reject a legal argument that renders otherwise protected speech unlawful because it actually persuades would blast a whole in First Amendment jurisprudence.
Starting point is 00:18:27 When a young man dies, especially under these circumstances, the desire to hold someone accountable is entirely understandable, but the law can't and shouldn't try to write every wrong. Michelle Carter should go free. It's his argument.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Now, I mean, because you can think about this in the perspective of what happened last week. You know, let's just say the other way it happened, a crazy right-wing person who was influenced by all sorts of right-wing propaganda from... They would be using that.
Starting point is 00:18:51 They'd be using this, This case. This case to go after people, let's say, instead of Rachel Maddow, he was listening to me. They would use this case to go after me. Your speech, if he was, if they had, if he had called in and you had talked to him and encouraged him to take action, and even though it wasn't violent action, they would use that. They will, they will take this. Well, let's use this as, as true despicable speech on the so-called right, Alex Jones,
Starting point is 00:19:22 and ping pong pizza. Yeah. Or the woman who went up and what does she do? Threatened the life of one of the Newtown parents? Oh yeah, from Florida. Amazing. I mean, a woman from Florida who said she was listening to Alex Jones and he had, quote, encouraged her to go up and take care of these lying Newtown parents.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Well, doesn't he play some role? In all honesty, yes. but don't we have free choice? Yes. So what is the answer? We go there next. Congressman Steve Scalise has had several surgeries and is doing better today.
Starting point is 00:20:37 That is really good news. And tomorrow I'm going to show you, I really believe Divine Providence kicked in last week. A week ago, Tuesday was the shooting at the ballpark. Was it Tuesday or something? Wednesday. It was Tuesday, wasn't it? But
Starting point is 00:20:53 it, no, because Bill O'Reilly was on last Tuesday, wasn't he? So it was Wednesday, I think. And we're going to do a special episode. I've asked some fiction writers, some thriller writers, some politicians, some media
Starting point is 00:21:09 experts, all of whom will remain nameless. Tell me what you think could have happened if we were this last weekend burying 30 congressmen and senators. What would be happening in the world right now? It's pretty bleak, and I'm only showing you this because I want to show you how close to
Starting point is 00:21:33 the edge we really are. But I may not make it to that show to be able to tell you that. Why? Breaking news this morning, we shot down a Syrian air, not airliner, a fighter jet. We shot it down. Russia has responded this morning with this news. We will shoot down any American plane. What is it?
Starting point is 00:22:01 West of the Euphrates. They have also stopped the hotline between our military. There was a hotline between us because this is a very tight airspace. And it's easy to make a mistake. And so we've had a hotline between our flight directors, if you will. Hey, your plane is over here. Sorry, didn't mean to. Please don't shoot it down, not hostile.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Yeah, conflict resolution, basically. Correct. A way for us to communicate with each other. Russia has just shut that down and said, we will take that as a hostile act, anything west of the Euphrates. A gang, I believe we are either at war or we are really, really close to war. And it is
Starting point is 00:22:48 not going to be like it was in Afghanistan or is in Afghanistan. One of these wars that you can just, oh, well, we're at war with another country and you don't pay attention to. This changes the entire world. We'll get into that here in a second.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Reason why I'm bringing up this woman who encouraged her boyfriend or this girl who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself for months is because you are not in your right mind. When you are suicidal, I'm sorry, but all reason has broken down. And I know this as a guy who's had two suicides in his family and has been suicidal himself. I was suicidal.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Pat, have I ever been, I've never been suicidal since we've known each other. I think it was just before. Yeah, just before. It was in the 80s. And I've had depression. I'm prone. My whole family is prone to clinical depression. And in the 80s, before I knew about medication, they were still using things like Ellaville, which is a really nasty kind of drug, to help you with depression. I've told you before, I've gone through it. If I wasn't, I've, if I wasn't, I, always say that cowardice saved my life, but I thank God that I'm a coward. I couldn't think about putting a gun to my head. I just couldn't have done it. I looked at a pillar of a bridge abutment
Starting point is 00:24:32 on 84 in Louisville, Kentucky. I passed it every single day, and every single day, both to and from work, I prayed, Lord, give me the strength to plow my car into that. He never, he never was. He never was a did, thank God. And when you actually go through it, all reason breaks down. You really do believe
Starting point is 00:24:57 that if you were gone, everyone around you would be happy. That you are the source of all problems. It's like I would read my own press. And you are the source of all problems. And that
Starting point is 00:25:13 is truly, to you and no amount of get over it, just be happy, go see a happy movie, let's go out and have fun. None of that makes a difference. No reason will penetrate. The second
Starting point is 00:25:29 thing that you think is, and this is where it gets, this is where suicide becomes real, you just want the pain to stop. If you've ever, you know what, I hate to minimize it, but as somebody who's gone
Starting point is 00:25:45 through it, I think I'm allowed to do this. It's like the moment right before you vomit. Like two minutes before you vomit to where you're like, oh, just let me vomit. I just want this to be over. And then that moment as you're getting closer to it, you're like, no, no, no, no, okay, okay,
Starting point is 00:26:04 okay, okay, okay, okay, I don't want to vomit. Okay? There is, you just want it to stop and nothing you've tried will make it stop. So, A, you're not in your right mind. And what she did was incite.
Starting point is 00:26:22 She went and personally incited that person. That's different because she's, you can't say something like that to somebody who's not in their right mind because they will do it. And you're inciting. And it's literal incitement. So what is the cure for this?
Starting point is 00:26:47 Let me start here. Man's love for man is cold. Men's hearts are failing them. Men's hearts are cold to their fellow men. We don't care as much about each other. We're tired of hearing the arguments. We're tired of hearing the whining. We're tired of all of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And so we're just sick of it and we want it to stop. Does that sound familiar? Because that sounds like the mind of a suicidal person, except we're not suicidal. We just don't mind if other people get out of our way no matter what it takes. Just shut up. That's man's love for man going cold. And our heart has failed us because, as David French said, we have to have compassion. And it's wrong when compassion isn't offered.
Starting point is 00:27:54 but we're not working on compassion at all. I wrote something yesterday. I got out of church and I went home and I wrote something that I want to share with you that is really known before the Greeks were around in philosophy. But it just hit me clearly yesterday that this is where we are. in life, but especially in times of strife, you will not rise to the level of your expectations or desire.
Starting point is 00:28:41 So think of this. Think this through with me. In life, we all think we are, or expect that when things get tough, we're going to stand up. We're going to be the one. Oh, we'll do that. I would have stopped slavery, and we all expect to rise to a certain level. But it is true that in life, especially in times of strife,
Starting point is 00:29:16 you're not going to rise to the level of your expectations or desire. Instead, you will fall to the level of your preparation. You're not suddenly going to become Hercules. You're going to become the person that you prepared yourself to be. So what have you prepared for? What have you mentally done the homework on? It goes back to my father and the most important thing I think my father, well, one of the most important things my father taught me.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I should make a list of those. One of the things he taught me was, Glenn, you don't want to be like me. I promise you, if you don't replace everything that I have taught you about being a father, you're going to be exactly like me. And that is true. I was very much like my father.
Starting point is 00:30:22 A good dad, just not a dad that was very present in any way. Until I started to replace that image of what it means to be a good dad and actually replaced it with things that I could see, things that I could understand, things that I could follow in good times and bad,
Starting point is 00:30:46 I prepared myself to be a better dad than my father was. I had to prepare myself for it. I had to do the things to not say, oh, well, I'm just going to to be better than that. No, you're not. I'm just going to be better. No, you are not going to be
Starting point is 00:31:10 better than your mom or your dad. You're not unless you've done the homework to be better. You're not going to be the person that stands up and saves the world unless you've prepared to be that person. You're not going to be the person that can rally everyone around the cause and lead them away from the cliff unless you've prepared to be that person. Corey Tenbom, Cori Tenbom, Paulina in Poland that saved all of those Jews that I quote all the time, Glenn, you misunderstand. The righteous didn't suddenly become righteous. They just refused to go over the cliff with everyone else.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Well, why is that? If you look at those who saved, those who were really truly righteous, there was always something Oscar Schindler, what was his motivation? At first it was to make money. He had prepared himself to be a great capitalist and to be a great capitalist and prepare himself to succeed no matter what was going on. At first, Oscar Schindler just took advantage of the cheap labor. He didn't rise to the expectations. he fell to where he was prepared. He saw an opportunity and he took it. Paulina, Corey Tenboom, their parents prepared them to be those kinds of people
Starting point is 00:32:41 because they studied the scriptures, because they prayed all the time, because they used real examples, because they actually went out and helped people, and their compassion for others was fostered. You just don't have compassion for others in this society. We're swimming in a sea of filth. We're swimming in a sea that shows no compassion. Our video games, it's deadening the compassion because they're not real. Nothing is real to us anymore.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Where does food come from, gang? Food comes from the supermarket. When you go and talk to kids, especially in the cities, and you ask them, where does meat come from, they will tell you from the store. Yes, but where does the store get it? From the meat place. What is meat? They can't tie it to a farm. They can't tie it to an animal.
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Starting point is 00:36:46 Welcome to the, welcome to the program. There is another armed and dangerous shooter at a mall in Massachusetts today. They are shutting things down. We'll give you the latest on that. Also, are we now at war with Russia? What does this mean? We go to the experts. Next.
Starting point is 00:37:14 This is the Glenn Beck program. Mercury. The Blaze Radio Network. On Demand. One more step closer to war. The world is still moving in a very dangerous direction. The Russians have just cut off our communication and coordination between our planes and said this morning that if we cross into Syria airspace, anything west of the Euphrates, they will shoot it down. at the same time they shut down our coordination.
Starting point is 00:38:11 We've always had communication with them saying, okay, we're going here. Wait a minute, I see one of your planes. No, no, no, that's a mistake. Don't shoot at us. They shut that down. The world is a much more dangerous place than it was while you were sleeping.
Starting point is 00:38:27 We'll give you all the details and so much more right now. Enlightenment. This is The Glen. Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenback program. I'm so glad that you're here. There is some news that happened over the weekend with the president's new attorney, an actual friend of the program. We'll give you the details on that coming up in just a second. Also, high schools now are starting to abandon their valedictorian because, and I'm quoting, competition is bad.
Starting point is 00:39:30 some really amazing stats that you need to look at on why some very, very smart people say the economy is not what everybody says it is, at least for the stock market, five predictions from very smart investors on why they say we should be watching and what we should be watching for the stock market to crash. And Elon Musk says he wants to link computers to a computer. our brains to prevent a threat to humanity. This is fascinating. He said, everybody else is going for artificial intelligence.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Why don't we instead link our brains to computers? That way the computer won't see us as a threat. It will see us as part of it. Okay. That sounds good. Okay. You know, part of that does sound really great. Yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I mean, boy, wouldn't it be great to be able to process anything that you wanted to process? It would be pretty amazing if we could actually use, you know, our entire brain. If it worked both ways, if the computer could download into you a foreign language or something that you would almost instantly know. Yes. That would be great. It would be amazing. Yeah. That would be amazing.
Starting point is 00:40:56 And hard to resist. Yeah. almost impossible because everybody be doing it. Just like what's his face from Google says everybody will be doing it. Yeah. Ray Kurzweil. You'll be
Starting point is 00:41:10 an outdated model. You'll be a model T. I mean, there's... You'll realize that to succeed in business and in life, you'll have to do it because everybody else is. But
Starting point is 00:41:23 wouldn't it be interesting if you wanted to live the life you're living right now that we would be considered the Amish. Yeah. Because that's the way it would be. It would. And any just society would not see the Amish as a threat. Any just society would say, just leave me alone.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Just leave me alone. I don't want anything to do with you guys and your laws and, you know, that crazy stuff that you guys are doing. We're just going to live over here by ourselves. I don't think this society would allow. that to happen. What was that really awful movie with, what's her face? Johansen, Scarlet Johansson was in it. The island? It was a, it was, no, no, it was done by, it was done by the Chinese and it was a ghost in the machine. Oh, that was
Starting point is 00:42:17 horrible, but it was along these lines. Yeah. Everybody was part computer. Yeah. And, got a problem with that? Yeah, it didn't turn out well for them. It didn't turn out well. Well, we don't No, because it still has, I mean, there's another chapter or 10 to see. Oh, yes. The thing is we don't know because no one saw it outside of YouTube. This is a gigantic bomb. I see almost every movie made, so. But it was, it was really bad.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Really bad. It was really bad. But it wasn't made for us. It was made for the Asian markets. So enough of that. Now, we have moved to a new place. place overnight. We shot down a Syrian fighter.
Starting point is 00:43:05 This is the first time. We have just been tolerating this kind of action for years. Under Obama, this is just the way it was. You could do anything to us. We're not going to do anything to you. Well, Syrian fighter and an American fighter meet, and we shoot it down. Was it the right thing? Was the wrong thing?
Starting point is 00:43:27 it just at this point is. So when that story broke, the immediate thought, at least from me, was, uh-oh, what does that mean? The game has changed. Now, there's something to be said for being Americans and saying, hey, we have these lines. But I personally would like to know when we're going to change those lines. I'd like some discussion to happen that, oh, by the way, we're going to, we're perceiving as escalated. I'm sorry, they're perceiving this as an escalation of war.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I would imagine that we all perceive this as, no, we're just holding our own. That's not the way the Russians and the Syrians see it. And I'm not really concerned about Syrians. I am concerned about the Russians. The Iranians have pretty much swept through Iraq. We've pretty much lost Iraq. And we've lost Iraq not to ISIS. ISIS we are actually fighting back and making some progress.
Starting point is 00:44:45 It's the Syrian, sorry, it is the Iranians who are a horrible, terrorist lot that are now all the way across Iraq and now starting to penetrate the Syrian border below us, below the Euphrates River in Iraq and Syria. So what the Kurds and not the good Kurds, but the bad Kurds, the Syrian Kurds are bad Kurds. They don't even speak the same language. They're both Kurds, but their nations or their peoples have been separate since the early 20th century. We separate them. They don't speak the same language. They are Marxist,
Starting point is 00:45:31 Leninist, radicals, and terrorists. Because they're against Turkey and Syria, we love them. And we're arming them, which we shouldn't be doing. But they're also against the Iranians.
Starting point is 00:45:48 So, they're our friends. This is going to come and bite us in the ass. It's the typical mess that we get into. Almost every time. Every time. Every time. I mean, that's what Benghazi was about. Guys, make no mistake.
Starting point is 00:46:01 We were arming ISIS. We were taking guns from Libya, running them through Benghazi, putting them on a ship, sending them to Turkey, bringing them across the border, and arming ISIS. That's what Benghazi is about. This is going to happen again. And we are now arming these really bad commune. revolutionary killers. And nobody seems to have a problem with it. There are any explanation as to why we're arming Syrian Kurds?
Starting point is 00:46:36 It's because they're fighting against the Syrian regime. They're fighting against the Syrian regime and they're also fighting against ISIS. Right. And so instead of actually doing our job, the way we could do our job, we're having some, we're, we're arming people by proxy. How do you even fight on the right side of this? You can't. There's no right side of the Syrian conflict. None.
Starting point is 00:47:00 So what are we doing there? Right. What are we doing? You want to fight for Turkey? No. No. Do you want to fight for Syria? No.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Do you want to fight for ISIS? No. Do you want to fight for the Syrian Kurds who are Marxist revolutionary terrorists? No. Who are you fighting for? Who are you fighting with? The only ones I want to fight with are the Christians in Iraq? and the Kurds in Iraq.
Starting point is 00:47:29 They are all pro-freedom. They all understand that. They're not running. They don't want to run. They just want to get up north to some safety to where they can get some arms and they are fighting. Those guys I want to help, but those aren't the guys we're helping.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I don't know why we're not helping them, but the only good guys in the region, we've decided not to help. So they're on their own. They're the ones we've continually not helped ever since the first Gulf War. Yeah, they're the ones. We shoot down a Syrian jet today,
Starting point is 00:48:03 but we don't give them a fly-o-no-fly zone. We don't help them at all. It's crazy what we've done to the Kurds. And not the Syrian Kurds. You have to understand, the Syrian Kurds are bad. The Iraqi Kurds are good, really good. So now there is a no-firm. fly zone for Americans. If we cross the Euphrates
Starting point is 00:48:28 River to the west, if we cross the Euphrates River, Russia has said they will shoot down any of our planes. They have also, because this is a tight zone. I mean, it is really easy. You're on one side of the river, boom, you're on the other side of the river that fast. Imagine you're going 500 miles an hour. You cross a river in lightning speed. So we've always had a communication
Starting point is 00:48:58 center set up between ourselves because there are too many jets and there are too many chances for mistakes to be made. And so we have a communication center. Russia has one, we have one. And it's like a hotline. And if one of the jets
Starting point is 00:49:15 crosses a border crosses some zone, they pick up the phone, or we pick up the phone and say, hey, hey, we're about to shoot down. What are your intense? And then immediately the answer is given. Don't shoot it down or yeah, that's, yeah, we're doing nefarious things or whatever it is. Take this.
Starting point is 00:49:36 We know when there's a mistake and we've turned back jets over and over and over again. Because of the firing on the Syrian jet today, Russia has taken that away and now said we will shoot down anything that crosses the Euphrates River. So this is the war, I talked about this last week, this is the war that is coming. And the war that is coming is on the southern border of Syria, northern border of Iraq, sorry, northwestern, southwestern border of Iraq, just before the Euphrates. So if you would look at a map, it's a crescent shape. And that's what Iran is after.
Starting point is 00:50:21 They're going for a crescent control of that whole region, from Iran through Iraq to Syria up to Turkey. They want to control that. Well, Turkey wants to control Turkey Syria into Iraq. So they're both coming down exactly the same way. And we're arming people that the Kurds in Syria, that also want their own nation in Syria and Turkey. So we're arming the people who are against not only Syria, Iran, ISIS, but also against Turkey. That's why Turkey wants all of them dead.
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Starting point is 00:53:47 This is a leadership training for 18 to 25-year-olds. these guys that came in last week, I spent Friday afternoon with them, they are ready to go home and tear it up. We had one guy who was an agnostic and still left an agnostic, I think. But I asked him, I said, so what was the thing that you really came away with? and he said how important the Bible was to the foundation of our country. He said, you know, I've always heard it. There's a Christian nation, blah, blah, blah. He said, and it's agnostic, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:28 But here's how I know now that this was the foundation of the country, and I know how that is meant. The number one thing that I heard was from these kids, and they're all, you know, some of, I can't call them kids. Two of them, maybe three of them were teachers. Teachers, one of them was a history teacher. One of them was an English teacher, and I don't remember the other one. And I said, what did you get?
Starting point is 00:55:02 Have to go back to original sources. You can't read anything that is somebody's opinion on somebody's opinion on somebody's opinion. You have to go back to the original sources. A. Game over once you start teaching. that once people start to realize oh wait a minute there is truth second thing i heard a lot was uh our generation is looking for truth just nobody's telling us where to find it and third heard this from almost everybody i have completely miscast the bible i have to go back and look and actually read the bible what a concept what a concept yeah about that
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Starting point is 00:56:27 schools now are abandoning the valedictorians. Now, it's so weird. When I was in, I was in my hometown, was it last week before last. Yeah. And I went to my high school's website, and I was kind of looking around, and it had the valedictorian list. 25 valedictorians. Wait.
Starting point is 00:56:52 20. Isn't valedictorian? It is the student who has the highest grades in that particular class who gives the graduation address. Right. Not the 25
Starting point is 00:57:04 students, but you know, I'm sure. Were they all tied? They apparently, they're all tied at the top. and maybe they'll all give the graduation address together. I'm not sure how that works. Well, it's not, so that's actually how this started was there was a bleeding of,
Starting point is 00:57:24 well, wait a minute, I should get that too. My daughter should have my son is just as good. You know that's what happened. You know that's what happened. So they all started to bleed into more and more and more valedictorians. Now schools are starting to say none whatsoever, but not for the reason you might think. Beck Program. Meek Program. Sign up for the newsletter and get all the info you need to know at glenbeck.com.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Hello America. According to the National Association of Secondary School Principals, nearly half of all high schools in the United States no longer report any class rank. Wow. According to the Associated Press, the graduation tradition of naming a senior class valeditorian is slowly fading into history. In areas where the tradition continues, more students are being named at the head of the class. Helen and Montana.
Starting point is 00:58:27 How many people? 25, 25 all theictories. How many people are in the Helen Montana? Well, in the graduating class, in my class there was 460 or something. So it's probably fairly sizable. So here's, listen to this. The reason is because administrators
Starting point is 00:58:42 are increasingly concerned about, quote, unhealthy competition. And students feeling pressure to perform better than their peers. I know because in real life, that never happens. You don't have to compete with anybody for anything? No. Everything is just handed. You know one of my favorite lines from Ghostbusters, the original Ghostbusters?
Starting point is 00:59:02 Do you know what it, Jeffrey? Yeah, the Bill Murray line where he talks about they make you work out there, right? No, it's Dan Aykroyd. Oh, okay. Dan Aykroyd looks at him and says, you don't know what this means. Yeah, you don't know what it's like out in the private sector. They expect results. Did you see this?
Starting point is 00:59:20 The Tennessee School, a magnet school in Tennessee, awarded 48 valedictorians this year. 25% of the graduating class. High school in Columbia, Maryland, ranked the students but kept the results private to each student. Of course, the students couldn't keep quiet where they landed. Two seniors from Hammond High School said, that's what everybody talked about.
Starting point is 00:59:41 It makes everything 10 times more competitive. Some parents Some parents Don't like the competition Saying students place too much emphasis on rankings And it can lead to negative perceptions of themselves You know what leads to negative perceptions about yourself? Living under a bridge
Starting point is 01:00:04 That one That you will be like I'm a homeless person No no no you're not No you're not You are a person Who has connected with the outdoors.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Oh, I feel so much better now. I'm a homeless person. Yes, because mommy and daddy never taught you about competition. Competition is good. Competition, you know, this is why I really like cross-country training, is competition is be the, I know, well, that's why I'm so fit. competition is about being better yourself. Can you better what you just did?
Starting point is 01:00:49 Better your time? That's, I mean, yes. Is there going to be a winner? Yes. But are you better? Can you beat your own personal time? Can you be better? Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:05 This whole idea that I don't have any responsibility to be my best self, that I don't have any responsibility to compete in life? How do you think we got the light bulb? That was a literal competition between people in France, people in the United States, Edison, Tesla. I mean, people were competing to be the first one to bring a light bulb. What do you think Tesla is all about? Being the first to go to Mars.
Starting point is 01:01:40 what do you think Apple is all about competing against Google and Microsoft and everybody else plus the competition within the company itself there's going to be a ton of competition no there's not
Starting point is 01:01:57 they all get participation choice everybody lives in a very big house nobody drives any other car well in this particular case it's true everybody drives a Prius but everybody has exactly the same stuff. It's all equal outcomes. Steve Jobs, he didn't have more money than everybody else.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Yeah, I think you're going to find that's not the case. No, there was no competition there. Not the case. No, no competition. Even liberal, as liberal as Bill Gates is, he's got a 52,000 square foot home. It's a little bit bigger than most of his employees. Really? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:02:31 For sure? No, here's the truth. Stop listening to him. Here's the truth. He takes Leonardo Devinci's Kodak. and everybody gets it over their fireplace for a month. If you work at Microsoft, everyone gets to hang Leonardo da Vinci's codex
Starting point is 01:02:49 over their fireplace for a month. Whether you're the janitor or... And there's no competition for it. It's just alphabetically, you know, assigned. Every employee is just guaranteed to receive it. Yes, guaranteed to receive it. You hang it over your, no matter what the deal is. You could be the employee that's on your way out.
Starting point is 01:03:08 doesn't matter. Huh, wow. You could be the employee that's stealing from the company doesn't matter. You get it. Now, it's,
Starting point is 01:03:15 again, it's alphabetically assigned, but they, just because that is showing preference, they shuffle the alphabet. Oh, that's good. And it always lands on gates
Starting point is 01:03:26 or jobs or whatever. It would be gates. Gates. Why the lies? Well, it's interesting because you are the one that was propagating this idea that stealing
Starting point is 01:03:36 is something that's possible. indicating you believe in ownership, private ownership of material. There's no such thing. I'm sorry, that was the old Glenn coming out. Thank you. I'm glad finally you see that. It's funny, they don't see competition as helpful. I mean, how do you not? I mean, look at all the benefits that have come out of it. Well, here's what I think the average person doesn't look and see as helpful. The competition, the way we have it, we used to. believe in this country that it is your personal responsibility to be your best, to make your own way,
Starting point is 01:04:18 to not be a burden on others, and that you had a blessing of getting an education. Now it's not that. Now it is, especially you go to places like New York, the parents will shiv you for a spot in a pre-nursary school. Because that pre-nursary school will lead you to the right kindergarten, which will lead you to the primary school and the secondary school, and you'll be able to get into Harvard. But if you drool too much in the pre-nursary school, they will tell you this is a sign that they're not going to make it to Harvard, and they really need to stop drooling so much.
Starting point is 01:05:06 They're five months old. I mean, that's the unhealthy competition. I think a lot of these parents, though, can't see beyond just their feelings right now of feeling like, oh, gosh, I'm not, I'm not number one in the class, so I'm worthless. Well, they're going to have to deal with that. They're going to have to deal with that in life. And I don't know that they're looking forward. They're so short-sighted. But it is, again, the parents, what happened when the school said, keep this to yourself?
Starting point is 01:05:36 All the kids, they know they're competing. repeating? It's natural. Who's better at this than you can't play sports unless it's always a tie? And even then, you're going to know when this guy gets up, he is going to slam this thing out of the park. We all have different skills. And sports along with, you know, valedictorian races, it's a good, meaningless thing to teach that lesson on. Like losing a sporting event in the grand scheme of your life is not that big of a deal. but it's a great way to learn the lesson of how to react after you lose. It's a great way to learn a lesson of how to work harder in the future. And it's about the parents spinning that the right way for the child to help them understand and deal with that.
Starting point is 01:06:22 And it's also important to understand, it's also important to understand this. And I think this is a great stat. Just read this one a couple of weeks ago. Valedictorians are not, generally speaking, the movers and the shakers of the next generation. They generally, they'll get good jobs, but they're generally not the ones who are the big entrepreneurs. They're not the big money makers, et cetera, et cetera. Because of this, they are taught exactly what to think. They live in this box that is structured by college and high school.
Starting point is 01:07:03 And really, honestly, what are you learning in high school? You're memorizing dates. You're taught to learn skills that you will never, ever use again. Not the information. The test-taking skills. The memorization of dates and names and places. When does that come in handy? So it makes, I mean, it's not without value, right?
Starting point is 01:07:28 Like a lot of these people are making $100,000 a year to good jobs and discipline. Discipline. Hard work in the system. And there's a lot there. But I mean, I was listening to an interview with a guy who started five guys. guys, the burger place. It was a financial services guy, goes in, decides he wants to start a burger place in New Jersey. I think it was New Jersey.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And he starts it and he lets his kids pick out all the ingredients. You pick the best tasting mayonnaise. Won't tell them anything about food cost. Won't tell them which one's more expensive because he wants them to just pick the best one. They pick the best one. This is a ridiculous way to run a business. They go to name the business. He has four kids.
Starting point is 01:08:06 He's like, I don't know. Let's call it five guys. we'll change it later. Now there's 1,500 locations. Because he decided he wanted to go and he believed in the quality of the product. He decided to work hard and do it in a different way. He wasn't. So here's an interesting phrase that I'd like to share that kind of goes into that.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Everybody says think out of the box. You've got to think out of the box. You've got to think out of the box. Yes, if that box is flawed and doesn't. doesn't provide you anything but the same rubber stamp. But you don't want to think out of the box if you're creating a business. You want to create a new box. You have to have framework.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Like I can't go into five guys. I know what it looks like and say, you know what we're going to do? We're going to put up some fake grapes on the side here because it'll look kind of, we'll attract those people who usually go to an Italian restaurant. And we're going to put some of those really cheesy Chinese lamps hanging from the ceiling too because we'll attract those. No, they have a box. They have a box.
Starting point is 01:09:17 We're five guys. It looks like this. This is what we serve. The secret is forget the box. Design your own box and stay within your own box. But nobody's teaching that. Everybody teaches, get out of the box, which says, There are no rules.
Starting point is 01:09:37 There are rules. But in today's day, you have to find the rules that are eternal, like theft shouldn't be part of our business model. Yes, no, it's true. And every one of the interviews with one of these crazy CEOs does something different. There are 500 stories of people who try these things and failed. But that's the difference. That part of it is important. many of those failures came from the same people who wound up succeeding later.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Yes. You have to be able to embrace that failure. Did that hurt their self-esteem for a little while? Maybe. It might have. It should. But they overcame it. They overcame it and did things different.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Wow. You mean that's possible? There is, I have learned much more. I've learned much more from my failings than I ever have from my successes. Because my successes don't make me question anything. My successes go, dig me. Look at this. Huh? How great is that?
Starting point is 01:10:36 I don't actually know what caused my success here or there. I can speculate, but I haven't had to put like, oh, crap, honey, I don't know why we're successful. How did we succeed? Where did we go right? I haven't done any of that. Every time I have a failure, I am going, where did we go wrong? success teaches you very little. Failure teaches you almost everything important
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Starting point is 01:13:27 They've actually found physical changes to your heart that take place. The British Heart Foundation just, did a study. And they say that a broken heart is provoked when the heart muscle is suddenly stunned, which causes the left ventricle to change shape and is typically prompted by intense emotional stress. So that affects the heart's ability to pump blood and there remains no known medical cure. Unbelievable. That's amazing that we have always for forever.
Starting point is 01:14:03 I bet you, I would love to see when me being heartbroken became part of the lexicon. I bet you hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years ago. And now to find out scientifically that that's actually true. Actually happening. Is amazing. Yeah. Let's do some homework on that in the next seven minutes. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Also, we have a few really kind of fun updates for you that I think you'll enjoy coming up after the break. The Blaze Radio Network. On Demand Hello America, welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Elon Musk wants to link computers to our brains, and he says that's to protect us, and I actually believe he is correct on that. We'll get to that.
Starting point is 01:15:23 If we have time this hour, there's a lot going on. It's going to collapse. There are five predictions from some really smart investors that you need. to be aware of, because all of them are saying there's a lot of scenarios that make this whole house cards come tumbling down. One of them is, I don't know, war. Things have changed since you maybe even got to work or left for work today, and that is the U.S. shot down a fighter jet from Syria and Russia has now said any American jet that crosses the Euphrates, we're taking down.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Oh, and by the way, we're getting rid of the hotline between our commanders. The world is a much more dangerous place, but I would say there was a little bit of progress made last night. I begin there right now. So glad you've joined us today. Let's start with Megan Kelly. Megan Kelly did her controversial interview last night, which, my gosh, did the press help her out? You know, to everybody trying to tear her down. That was the least controversial segment I think I've ever seen. She handled that so well, I think, on behalf of the families of Sandy Hook.
Starting point is 01:17:16 I couldn't have been done any better by her. No, I mean, and still, too, with Alex Jones, are you kidding me? That was a puff piece compared to what she could have done. Oh my gosh. She didn't even get into the most incendiary weirdness. Yeah, she didn't bring up the animal, human hybrids. She didn't get into the weird sort of funny stuff. The Sandy Hook stuff probably is the most incendiary thing.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It probably is. But she didn't get into the golden babies being roasted and eaten by the Bilderbergers or the owl people or whatever that is. That's the owl people. Yeah. She didn't get into any of that. That's Bohemian Grove. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Right. Yeah. Like you don't know. I don't even honestly understand, and I didn't understand this last week, the argument as to why she shouldn't do this interview. It's been done, you know, he's been profiled by other sources before that have been high profile. No, just in the New York Times. She's in a lose-lose situation. There are so many people that just don't like Megan Kelly now because they just thought that she was, you know, making this, you know, that it started with the first. Trump question at the first debate.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Well, that's where she lost the right. The left didn't like her before that because she was on Fox and they saw her as too conservative, which she's, I don't think, you know, she's not. She's a journalist here. But, you know, you see that as now she doesn't have the right allies or the left allies. No, she's got nobody. This is an absurd targeting. The idea that you would say that she was doing something irresponsible by bringing up a guy,
Starting point is 01:18:46 first of all, the president went on her show. And people are, you know, we, excuse me, on his show. And that was a pretty big deal at the time. Secondarily, the other president, Obama, also called out Jones in the last campaign. So we have two presidents on record talking about this guy. So maybe you might want to know something about. Yeah. Exposed the lack of credibility there.
Starting point is 01:19:10 I will say the way she presented the relationship between the president and Alex Jones with videotapes. She didn't allege anything. She asked him. And then she presented the evidence. And I didn't even know that. I thought that was pretty stunning. Well, I mean, you don't know how much of this is Alex Jones lying because he's constantly doing that. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:19:35 She said, because he was. He was constantly lying. And did anybody else notice he didn't make eye contact with her? When she would ask him a question, a tough question, he would break eye contact, and he would look down and he would look around. And then he would finish and he would look up at her. And I mean, it was a super... A sweaty mess, too, for the entire time.
Starting point is 01:19:54 I think that's the, you know, steroids or whatever he's on. And it's also partially Jeffrey's syndrome. Yeah. Yes. But I mean, the idea that she was going to be, like, giving him some sort of credibility by this interview, I mean, he looked terrible.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Look terrible. He looked terrible. On Father's Day? Terrible. John Ronson, who we've had on the program before. Yeah. This is a guy who, our first ever exposure to Alex Jones. He came on the show when we were in Tampa, I believe.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Alex Jones did? No, John Ronson. And he wrote a book. Sounds like a made-up name. John Ronson? John Ronson, yeah. But he's a great, he's a great guy. He's been on the show a few times.
Starting point is 01:20:30 He's been on the show a few times. He was just on. That's weird. I used to talk to Ron Johnson quite a bit. Yeah, not a real name too. But anyway, he's, uh, he was just on our show. He's the guy with the English accent. Yeah. He's really quite brilliant.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Yeah, he wrote a book about people who get shamed on the internet, which is why the most, the most recent reason we had him on. However, however, he wrote a book, And he went with Alex Jones. This is back for anyone to who he was. To the Bohemian Grove. To the Bohemian Grove to see the owl ceremony. That's exactly when he did the bullhorn session about roasted golden babies being consumed by these guys.
Starting point is 01:21:04 That's the same. Yeah, the same time. Same time. I don't know the same time was the same festival for sure. Anyway, long story short, this guy has known Alex Jones before anybody else has in the media. And he said that interview was the worst he's ever looked at an interview. I believe that. I mean, this is a guy who's been following him from long before.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Any of us knew who he was. Ron said that Megan Kelly was. The Megan Kelly thing was the worst he's ever looked on an interview. Well, we should, I mean, listen to this, and you'll be the judge. Here he is on Info Wars in December 2014. But it took me about a year with Sandy Hook to come to grips with the fact that the whole thing was fake. You said, the whole thing is a giant hoax. How do you deal with a total hoax?
Starting point is 01:21:45 It took me about a year with Sandy Hook to come to grips with the fact that the whole thing was fake. I did deep research and my gosh, it just pretty much didn't happen. At that point, and I do think there's some cover of
Starting point is 01:22:00 and some manipulation, that is pretty much what I believe. But then I was also going into devil's advocate, but then we know there's mass shooting. I'm going to devil's advocate. Okay, that is a weird series of sentences. Okay, so at that time,
Starting point is 01:22:15 I really did feel that way, yeah. But also there's some weird things going on. And then I was also playing Delville's Advocate. And then I also believed it did happen. So I've really taken every position on every single possible. But that's what he does. He says out of these things. And then he says, well, at that time, I was only playing devil's advocate.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Clearly, he was not, though. He did believe it. Oh, no. He did believe it. And he was promoting it. He believed it for months and months and months, if not years. And by the way, he never in the interview actually says he doesn't believe it. He's not, he's not.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Listen, listen to the bigger part. No, I'm not. If you wrongly went out there and said it was a hoax, that's wrong. But what I already answered your question was, listeners and other people are covering this. I didn't create that story. But Alex, the parents, one after the other, devastated.
Starting point is 01:23:06 The dead body said the coroner, autopsy. And they've blocked all that, and they won't release any of it? That's unprecedented. All of the parents decided to come out and, lie about their dead children? I didn't say that. What happened to the children? I will sit there on the air and look at every position and play devil's advocate.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Was that devil's advocate? The whole thing is a giant hoax. The whole thing was fake. Yes, because I remember even that day, I'll go back from memory, then saying, but then some of it looks like it's real, but then what do you do when they've got the kids going in circles in and out of the building with their hands up? I watch the footage, and it looks like a drill. When you say...
Starting point is 01:23:45 Okay, stop there. just looked at this footage. In and out, the kids, he keeps referencing kids going around the building in circles. What is that? I mean, you know, it appears to just be people walking out of one side of a building and walking into the other. But not over and over again, just once. Like, they walk out of one exit and walk into another entrance in a line, which is what you
Starting point is 01:24:08 would do if someone said, hey, we need you to walk to the front door. There's another area you need to go to there. Like, that's what it appears to be. I mean, again, I don't know the full. And it's obviously, you know, manipulated like crazy online. If it was a hoax, though. It's not, but like, why would that? What would that mean?
Starting point is 01:24:23 Right. What does it mean that they walked around the building? Nothing. What does that mean? Nothing. That's the point. So weird. And that's why I hate even looking the stuff up, because when you look it up, you're like,
Starting point is 01:24:31 oh, well, maybe this is true. First of all, it's not. Second of all, even if it was true, it would mean nothing. You know, again, the 9-11, the 9-11 towers came down under this idiot's reasoning to throw us into war with Iraq. So why the hell didn't we blame Iraq for it? Why the hell didn't George Bush come out the next day and say, you know who did this? A guy from Iraq.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Why the hell didn't we go to war with Iraq right away? Why did we waste time going to war with Afghanistan? Why did we tell anyone about the Taliban? Why didn't we just go to war with Iraq? We all would have believed it, right? If the president of the United States came out and said Saddam Hussein, he tweeted something even before Twitter that said, I'm going to take down the World Trade Center, we all would have been like, holy crap. Because Saddam Hussein is an obvious adversary. He had done, we'd already been to war with him.
Starting point is 01:25:21 He had tried to assassinate a former president. We all would have believed that they were responsible. In fact, people believed it even when we didn't say it. Stu and I actually did our homework in 1998-99 on Osama bin Laden. We knew who he was. We knew that he had threatened New York. We knew that he had threatened the financial district. And when the World Trade Centers came down two years later, we said to each other,
Starting point is 01:25:49 who the hell would have done something like this? We knew it. We had done our homework. And when they said it's Osama bin Laden, we were like, Osama bin Laden, who's it? Hey, wait a minute, isn't that guy? If we had done our homework, nobody knew, nobody knew, because we had even forgotten about it. Nobody knew. And of course, a lot of this goes on partisan line.
Starting point is 01:26:13 If you remember correctly, which people don't today, about half of Democrats believed George Bush either took down the World Trade Center or allowed it to happen to go to war with Iraq, based largely on theories propagated by the moron Megan Kelly is interviewing here. This is not a right-wing thing. The left half of Democrats believed this because they didn't like George Bush at the time. Now, because Barack Obama became president and then he started saying things about he wasn't born. here and that he was doing all these other crazy things to our society, many of which were not true, just like they weren't true against George W. Bush. People on the right started embracing him because they were taking down. Someone the right didn't like. That's not the way this is supposed to work. You're supposed to actually analyze. And this guy has done enough crap that you
Starting point is 01:27:04 should always start at not believing him. Always. A hundred percent of the time when he says something, If he says the sky is blue, you should assume it's green until confirmed otherwise. Always. His record is so lengthy on these things that there is no reason to ever believe anything he says unless you see it from a thousand other sources. You mean he's got an incredible reputation? Oh, see, here's what's interesting. Here's what's interesting.
Starting point is 01:27:32 And I think what we saw happening over the weekend is just playing into this. The GOP has come out last week and said, they are going to run against the media in 18. So what does that mean? That means that they don't believe they're going to have an actual accomplishment to be able to a tout. They just have to go against the media. And why would they do that? For a second reason, it's working.
Starting point is 01:27:59 People perceive the media as the big, big, bad boogeyman. Okay, do they have problems? Yes. Do they have credibility? No, in many cases. In some, they do. But because it was Megan Kelly, who the right wants to hate,
Starting point is 01:28:18 and the left already does, she got pummeled from both sides, and we're not allowing ourselves to see the truth about Alex Jones. If you are on the right, you are giving him a pass because Megan Kelly is persecuting him. If you are on the left,
Starting point is 01:28:38 you don't know which one is worse, Megan Kelly or Alex Jones. We have to decide what truth is, and there is truth. You can find it. And the best way to do it is just to say, okay, in the last 5,000 years, what has worked and what hasn't? What has worked? well, a society where people say, I personally am not going to lie. I personally am not going to cheat.
Starting point is 01:29:14 I personally am not going to steal. I personally am not going to covet. I personally am not going to mess around with somebody else's wife. I personally am not going to kill. Now, if you need somebody above you to say a sky god with his boomstick to say, don't do those things, then that's good. if it stops you from doing those things. If you need nothing above you,
Starting point is 01:29:41 you're just a really good person and you're not going to do any of those things, that's good, okay, I'm fine with that. But if you think you need a government to be able to teach you not to lie, not to covet, I guarantee you it will fail. Why? Because of 5,000 years of history.
Starting point is 01:30:02 because the government covets, the government steals, the government lies, the government murders. Over 5,000 years, you have lots of evidence of that. We have to find truth again, and we have to pin ourselves and make ourselves morally responsible for that. Otherwise, things are going to continue to go the way they're going. And right now, five scary stock market predictions from, smart investors.
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Starting point is 01:32:18 The Glenn Beck Program. 888-727 Beck. We have a question from the feed. From the feed, was Charlie Sheen's hernia a hoax? Or was he playing devil's advocate, referring to our Alex Jones? Well, you know what? I've seen your hernia.
Starting point is 01:32:33 I think that was real. At the time it was real, but no. I know. You never know. He's just playing devil's advocate. I want to take your phone calls towards the second half of the hour. Coming up in a few minutes, 888727 BECK, I'd love to hear if you watch the Megyn Kelly thing. I know a lot of people didn't watch it because they're still so mad at Megan Kelly.
Starting point is 01:32:58 I really don't understand it. I don't understand either, but, you know, a lot of people are really mad at Megan Kelly. and Kelly thinks she sold out, went to NBC. I think she did exactly the right thing. By the way, I think Bill O'Reilly is finding out the best thing that ever happened to him was leaving Fox News. He announced over the weekend. He is, surprise, surprise, going to start his own newscast. And it will be available to Bill O'Reilly.com.
Starting point is 01:33:26 That's Bill O'Reilly.com. And whoever heard of something like that? I know. I talked to Bill, and I was so afraid he was going to go back into it, and I kept saying to him, And I think this is why he sounds so happy. He sure does. He sounds really happy. I mean, for Bill, he sounds happy.
Starting point is 01:33:40 I think for a lot of Americans right now, he seems really happy. You know, it's... He's the most miserable man in the world. Yes, yeah. He's like the Eeyore of broadcast professionals. And he is, he really is. But he sounds so happy. And I said to him, this is early on.
Starting point is 01:33:57 He was like, you know, what am I going to do? I've got lots of options, but what am I going to do? Blah, blah. And I'm like, Bill, do none of it. of them. Do none of them. What? Do none of them. Let me explain the power that you
Starting point is 01:34:11 now have. No boss. Zero boss except your audience. Remain true to the audience and you will never have to worry about it again. Oh, that's yeah, that's
Starting point is 01:34:30 very tempting. Yes, yes. Yes. No one will ever tell you what to say, what not to say. You never called into somebody's office saying, well, this person is a friend of this person and that's a... Nope, you're your own boss. He's doing it, and I'm thrilled for him, Bill O'Reilly.com. The world is changing big, big time, and he's not going to be the last to come out on his own. More in a second with Alex Jones, your phone calls, and so much more.
Starting point is 01:35:12 To the Glenn Beck Program. The Mercury Program. I want to take a few phone calls. 888-727, BECK, AA-8-727. Beck, let's go to Carrie in South Carolina. Hello, Carrie. You're on the Glenn Beck program. Oh, Glenn, gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Greetings from starting South Carolina. I just wanted to say about education. Like, I've been wondering when America is going to have enough. And I think that there's a homeschooling revolution going on, and there are parents who are all into their kids and not looking to warehouse their kids have had enough, and they are pulling out. And I will make a prediction that the kids are either going to be pushed out of the country
Starting point is 01:35:57 or they're going to be martyred or they're going to be running things in 20 years because they know how to think. There's a generation coming up that knows how to think. They've been raised mostly by two-parent households because single moms can't stay home and homeschool their kids most of the time. And there is a revolution. It's here. And it's really exciting. It is, Carrie, and I agree with you. Thank you so much for your phone call.
Starting point is 01:36:21 There's an old joke that, Pat, you remember this? I used to say this in the 90s. I completely agree with you and you want to fight so hard for everybody gets a ribbon and a trophy. You are exactly right because your kids, have a very bright future. And my kids are going to need your kid to be on the other side of the speaker when they say,
Starting point is 01:36:46 yes, an extra fries, please. It is, it's true. I mean, your kids are being dumbed down and there is a revolution happening, an education revolution that is happening. Luke in Texas, hello, Luke, you're on the Glenbeck program. Hey, good morning, gentlemen. And if I cough, it's because the heat and dust of El Paso, kind of kicking my tail.
Starting point is 01:37:09 First off, Jeffrey, stay strong. You're my boy. Bless you. Hey, Glenn, listen to you. Just lost all credibility. They're blabbing about something. Go ahead. Please, I'm trying to listen to Luke.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Glenn, you said a lot of stuff today that I'd like to connect. But first off, I'm about to retire in 19 days from their army, done 20 years. And that paired with what you said this morning. I think a lot of stuff is important, talking about competition. So the ghost busses phrase you use about how the private sector expects results. I'm going to tie that into the military. You're talking about the pilots over the Euphrates, talking about losing the communications area. And after reading Dreamers and Deceivers, I think everything kind of ties together.
Starting point is 01:37:48 So in the Army, I want to talk about the Army. When you go from Staff Sergeant in the First Class, that's E6, E7, the big Army has a board. And they say, hey, we're going to look at everybody, possibly 30,000 staff sergeants who are eligible, and we're going to pick some. So when you get picked up for that, you may be in the top 6%. Okay, so now you're in E7. Now you're looking for E8. And now you might be in the top 4% to get picked up.
Starting point is 01:38:13 So I got selected at the Sarm Majors Academy and the wife and I, we're going to retire instead 2%. And so as this pyramid goes up, the Army is not dumb, and neither will be the Marines or Navy and all them. They want the top. And everybody else that settles to mediocrity if they never get promoted. So now I'm thinking about these pilots, over the Euphrates. We want
Starting point is 01:38:34 the people that are competitive. We want the people that cared about, you know, leading soldiers and combat missions and all that stuff. We don't want one of the 25 valeditorians from one of those states and schools you're talking about. We all want that. Dreamers and Deceivers. I love talking about Epcot
Starting point is 01:38:50 Center in Disney. I love talking. Nobody on that Dreamers list was one of the 25 validations. Oh, yeah. I know. And the last thing, your last caller there, it took about the homeschooling all. So as I retired, We're taking our family to Indianapolis. Never lived there.
Starting point is 01:39:04 It's in between my wife's folks and mine. But I've chosen to teach sixth grade math at a charter school. Never taught before, but I know that's what I want to do. So my five kids, we've been homeschooling, and we've decided if this charter school is good enough for me to teach, I'm going to take my three and this and I'm excited about the charter school and homeschooling experience. But if I had to wrap it all up, Glenn, I appreciate you letting me get the microphone on this. We want the competition, those 25 valedictorians. those are 25 people that are going to put that on their resume for either a college or for a job,
Starting point is 01:39:36 and they have no clue. They have absolutely no clue how watered down that is, and they're going to get a job somewhere, and they're going to keep other people. There's my two cents. Thank you very much, Luke, and thank you so much for your service to our country and to my family and all of our families for the last 20 years. I will tell you that I have more respect for the military. I think that I ever have
Starting point is 01:40:05 really knowing so many people now in the military not that I ever thought that military people were dumb or anything like that but the quality maybe it's because the population is getting so stupid that the quality of military people the military people that we know they are all so much smarter
Starting point is 01:40:31 than almost everybody I know. Would you agree with that, Pat? Definitely. I mean, it's really remarkable. It is. How, you know... Look at the guys we've had in here. I mean, they're just...
Starting point is 01:40:43 Oh, my gosh. As articulate as you can get. Marcus and his brother. Oh, yeah, a couple of killers. Yeah, yeah. His brother is a doctor now. Just went back. He's a doctor.
Starting point is 01:40:55 I mean, these guys are just gigantic brains. and, you know, that's why we have the military that we have. That's why we have the protection that we do. Let me go to James in Tennessee. Hello, James, you're on the Glenn Beck program. Hey, Glenn's honor to talk to you. I could maybe disprove your little statement. I got out of the military in 2001,
Starting point is 01:41:16 not hearing anything about politics. And then September 11th happened, and I started tuning in to you, and it was endeavor six. So I watched Megan Kelly interview yesterday. And I've had conflicting thoughts on, because I would listen to, in the Knoxville market, I'd listen to Glenn Beck from 9 to 12, and then from 12, or 12 to 3, it would be Alex Jones. And I did this throughout the 2016 election. So it was always tough for me to listen, but it was good. I got both perspectives, and I have respect for both of you guys.
Starting point is 01:41:54 I know he's a little bit more enthinged than you are, but I'll be always. both have so much in common in that, you know, there's been many of times when you're on Fox News that you were just, according to, you know, the mainstream media, you were out there talking about, you know, the Middle East and, you know, the Arab Spring and all these things that were going on that were truthful that the mainstream media didn't want to report on. And, you know, Alex is just a little bit further out there. More than a little bit. Well, when you get down to human fish hybrids, you're probably a little more than a little more. out there. But go ahead.
Starting point is 01:42:29 I mean, you guys have some of the same interest in terms of like stopping, you know, child trafficking. He's also involved in that. And I did a great job with a pizza restaurant. Yeah. I mean, anyway, go ahead. Go ahead and make your point. Okay. So a lot of that stuff was edited. And if you listen to Megan Kelly, which he was smart in knowing that it was going to be a hit piece, you know, they tape everything she did so that they could have the other side of the story. I know. Yeah, we heard it. totally sold him on it.
Starting point is 01:42:57 I mean, everything that she said that she wasn't going to do, she did exactly when she said she didn't do. I heard the tape, and I heard the tape that Alex says what you're now parroting here. I disagree with you. She said he would get a fair hearing, and his, what the point he was trying to get across would be left in. She didn't say he would have a free reign of it by any stretch of the imagination. He shouldn't expect it.
Starting point is 01:43:26 But he made his points. He said, I didn't say that. I was only playing devil's advocate. He made all of his excuses for it. I mean, you think it's okay that he took every side of the Sandy Hook issue? That's a good thing. He, it was a hoax, and then he was playing devil's advocate, and now it's actually none of it's true.
Starting point is 01:43:48 So, I mean, how do you give any credibility to this guy? Well, I disagree with him on Sandy Hook. But I do know that there were a lot of things out there. I mean, if you looked at some of the tapes, and there's a lot on that thing that just had me very conflicted. And actually, one of my military friends was a special investigator in that. And so I've heard firsthand from his side of the story. So it's a real thing.
Starting point is 01:44:14 Are you a 9-11 truth? No, I'm not a 9-11. There he is. So there's two things, two pretty damn big things that you disagree with it. Wait, wait, wait, what? What? the government knew more. I believe that our government had knowledge of what was coming
Starting point is 01:44:28 and perhaps let it happen. Oh my. That's the case. Wow. Well, that's a 9-11 truth. That is a 9-11 truther. I mean, the government knew that something was a foot, perhaps, yes, that they knew that airplanes were going to crash
Starting point is 01:44:45 into the World Trade Center? No. That's crazy talk. I just believe that our government doesn't always tell the truth. Well, again, that's a far from the 9-11 truth. That's a different standard.
Starting point is 01:44:58 That's what we do. We follow down to lower and lower hurdles to clear, and we all can clear that hurdle. But the question is not, it's not the hurdle of whether the government always tells the truth. We all know that's true. Do you also believe that virtually every
Starting point is 01:45:10 Islamic terror strike is done by our government because they're false flags? No, not at all. That's great. That's what he pushes. I mean, day after day, yes, he does. Day after, I've interviewed the guy for two hours at one point.
Starting point is 01:45:22 He believes there's virtually no Islamic terror. It's all a false flag by the government so that they can perform whatever other power move they're trying to perform. It's all this governmental stuff. Do you believe that in the Bohemian Grove that the elites, including Bill Clinton, the bushes, et cetera, eat golden babies? I don't know about the golden babies, but I know Bohemian Grove as well as other elite organizations definitely meet. Well, again, that's another standard. We asked you about golden babies and you said meetings exist. We agree that meetings exist.
Starting point is 01:46:00 We agree. We're on sludge, me too. Yeah, but they don't need golden babies. I don't mean to beat this guy. James, we appreciate you listening for sure. And there's a lot of people who, like, because now, currently, Alex Jones is talking about a lot of things, you know, where he says he's small government. I mean, that was not, when he was hanging out with Cynthia McKinney, who was a socialist and
Starting point is 01:46:21 ran for president, essentially. as a socialist in one of these splinter parties, he was not saying these same things. The issue here is, and I'm amazed by the idea that, because people said this before, you guys have similar ideas. I mean, Glenn, think about just 9-11 is a great example of this. We took that so seriously to the fact that you've gone to the part
Starting point is 01:46:44 of writing a book called It Is About Islam. We've done thousands of hours of coverage about the real threats. You've gone deeper into the Islamic extremist threat than probably any other host on television. And yet, this guy says it didn't happen with Islamic extremists. Now, that's just one incident. But as Patis pointed out, shooting after shooting after shooting after shooting, he said was not Islamic extremism. These are constantly false flags.
Starting point is 01:47:09 He also said that I, I mean, he was the guy who said that I was a CIA plant because no one has ever risen to the heights. that I rose out of nowhere. I just appeared right the week of 9-11. I was the coordinator for the CIA to coordinate the coverage of the cover-up of 9-11. And by the way, popular mechanics is essentially a division of the CIA. Right. Because they debunked all his nonsense on 9-11.
Starting point is 01:47:46 And I was part of that. Yeah. And this nonsense, he still says that this is, that this is an FBI that the Blaze, that Mercury Studios is an FBI plant or what does he call it, front.
Starting point is 01:48:01 That there are FBI offices and CIA offices in my studio. That's just a fact. That's just a fact. It's just crazy talk. It's just crazy talk. I can assure you that's not true. I will tell you that there will,
Starting point is 01:48:14 I will tell you, and I know this is going to offend James, our last caller, but it is true. You will agree with a lot of things that Satan says as well, because he will take a little bit of truth, and then he will take you into territories that you never thought, well, I don't agree with everything. He's not going to be completely false on everything, although he's starting to become that. And now this, it is summertime vacation for most, but scammers are hard at work. Your identity could be stolen today. Somebody's identity in the United States
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Starting point is 01:50:18 It was the whole defense. and then they rested. That's phenomenal. And hung jury. And they're speculating now whether or not he will come back for another trial, whether they'll try it again, whether they'll... He said he would. Prosecutions already said that they're going to retry it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:39 So... One to by the end of the summer. He goes in and he's got another trial. The next judge, the hope that they've got to have is that the next judge will let more accusations in. That was the problem with this. There were only one or two accusers that were led in to say, yeah, he also did this to me. So if they open, the judge opens the door and there's the flood of women,
Starting point is 01:51:06 then that's a different story. But this case that's being tried is what, 10 years old, 15 years old. So it's hard when you get that far away from the actual incident. And it makes people say, well, wait a minute, why? didn't they say anything in the first place do we really know that this is true you know maybe some of those were true in old days but is this one we don't really know and with cosby they expected him to make a long defense and i think that played to the jury i think the jury was like look the guy set up for six minutes there was nothing to say here uh good move yeah good
Starting point is 01:51:49 move. Whether it will go to a jury trial a second time, we'll see. But as the boys pointed out, that's what they're saying. But again, we'll see what happens. Cosby acquitted over the weekend. We'll see you at 5 o'clock with the think tank a lot to discuss,
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