The Glenn Beck Program - 8/22/17 - Who do you WANT to be? (Wences Casares joins Glenn)

Episode Date: August 22, 2017

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The Blaze Radio Network. On Demand. Get a Casper mattress and start your year off right. Try it in your home for 100 nights, risk-free. Go to casper.com slash Glenn. $50 off the purchase of your mattress, terms and conditions to apply. Well, last night, President Trump gave a primetime speech, first formal policy speech. Since the president was sworn in, pretty big deal, or so we were told,

Yet, I don't know about you, I kind of feel in the end. It was more like the empty calories that all of us consumed was we went out to the parking lot watching the eclipse yesterday. Yes, I did watch the eclipse. I'm not exactly sure why other than everyone said, oh my gosh, this is so important. You've got to go out and I have a major fear of missing out. And so I found myself standing in the parking lot like a boob.

Did anyone else feel that way yesterday during the eclipse? Because I felt it twice in one day. I felt exactly the same way with the president's speech. Trump said his, quote, original instinct was to pull out of Afghanistan. To me, this was a huge deal. I didn't expect him to actually admit this. After all, sending more troops into Afghanistan is a 180 from what he was saying during the campaign. when he ran on a line that, quote, the war was an unsolvable quagmire requiring a fast U.S.

withdrawal. So he admitted that he had changed his mind, which is not like Donald Trump, and he went as far as telling us why he changed his mind, another thing he really rarely does. And I appreciate it. The president said he had determined that the approach would create a vacuum that, terrorists, including al-Qaeda and the Islamic State, could instantly fill if we had a quick withdrawal. Trump said, Americans are weary of war without victory, and I share American people's frustration. But in the end, we will win. Okay, several things here that we need to talk about. I don't think we're going to win. Does anybody really believe we're going to win?

Because I don't think we're fighting to win. I needed the president to see. one more thing and he would have satisfied at least my need for hearing it from the president, even though I don't agree with the policy. I need somebody, anybody, to describe what winning actually looks like. Because this is now America's longest conflict, 16 years. And we were told the win was to kill Osama bin Laden. But that was done in 2012. So what are we fighting for or against? What are we doing there?

Americans are frustrated because no one on either side has a clue on why we're even there, what we're doing, nor do we even know what has to happen before we can come home. Why is it? This is now the third president. The first one was a hawk, George Bush. Okay? The second one wanted all wars to end.

He did the same thing that the first president did. And this one, in a third point of view, said, you know what, we need to bring him home. We need to bring him home quickly. And yet he's doing the same thing that the first president did. I'd like to know why. And if your media source isn't helping you figure, out why and what a win looks like so we can stop losing Americans and their limbs on the battlefield

for a war we can't even define and most of us can't even tell you if it's going on or not if they're not telling you that but instead they're just making this all about Trump, Trump, Trump, either good or bad, maybe, just maybe it's time for a new media source. We begin right now. This is the Glenn Beck program. America's longest running conflict. Honestly, I want to know why. I want to know what we're doing.

Last night when I watched this, I wasn't filled with confidence that we're going to win, but nobody could have filled me. Ronald Reagan could come back from the dead, and I wouldn't feel like we were going to win. I don't believe that anybody in Washington even knows what a win looks like anymore. I don't know what we're doing

over there. The president says we're not going to nation build. Well, yeah, we are because that's all we're really doing. We are the police force in the middle of a drug war. That's really what's happening. And why?

Why? For what? So ISIS doesn't come in, so Al-Qaeda doesn't come in? We can't continue to spend our lives? Do you know that most people, you know, only one percent of the U.S. population is engaged in this war. One percent of this population has somebody that they know are involved with that are fighting in Afghanistan. This war could go on forever. Most Americans don't even know why we're in South Korea. They don't even know we are in South Korea. How long has that gone

on. I thought we were against being America's, you know, the world's army, the world's policemen. That's not what we are for. That's not what we do. Did anybody else think about what George Bush said to me in the Oval Office just before he left? When he said, I did. Don't worry, Glenn, the next president, he was talking about Barack Obama, when he said, I'll just fly planes over the Pakistani border and I'll just bomb Pakistan. And I said, that's a suicide. That's our country committing suicide. Can't do that to an ally.

He said, don't worry. The next president, whoever it is, male or female, Republican or Democrat, they're going to sit behind this desk in this chair and they're going to make pretty much the same decision because they will realize the president's hands are tied. and they'll have to continue on this policy. Can you play the president from last night? Listen to this. The consequences of a rapid exit are both predictable and unacceptable.

My original instinct was to pull out, and historically I like following my instincts. But all my life, I've heard that decisions are much different. when you sit in the Oval Office. And yes, we will defeat them and we will defeat them handily. Isn't that pretty much what George Bush said? It's the same thing. Same thing.

When you sit in the Oval Office, you'll realize your hands are tied. Well, then why do we need a president? Why are we fighting over who is president? If the guy who gets in is going to make the same decision... I mean, think you could not have three presidents that were more different. The last three presidents have two. torn us apart. George W. Bush, wildly unpopular with half the country.

And they said horrible things about him. Barack Obama comes in, unpopular with half the country hating his guts. This guy coming in, half the country, hating his guts. All for different reasons. All for different reasons. One, he was too Republican. second he was too Democrat and third

he's going to drain the swamp and he's against all of them and yet they're doing exactly the same thing can somebody tell me why because I really want to know is there anybody in the media that's asking this question I would also like to know one other thing we have the most sophisticated

fighting machinery the world has ever seen. You can't get in probably within a thousand, maybe 5,000 yards of one of our Navy ships without the Aegis system going off. Automatically,

automatically, will take a plane and rip it to shreds. No man needs to be involved. The Aegis system is there to find out what is in its sphere, what is within attack range, and it automatically turns on and destroys it. Why is it our most sophisticated ships with the most sophisticated navigation and equipment are ramming into things? It doesn't make any sense to me at all. you're not missing the cargo ship.

It's happened twice. Twice. Twice. Twice. Twice. Twice. And to me, there are only a couple of reasons. One, we are incompetent.

Absolutely and totally incompetent. I don't believe that. I know the people who are in the military. You know many of the people who are in the military. You cannot tell me we're that incompetent. We lost 10 sailors over the weekend? 10? How?

How? How is that possible? How did another ship ram our Navy vessel? And we lose 10 sailors. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. None. Zero. So we're either incompetent or there's something else going on.

And I don't know what it is. I don't want to be involved in conspiracy theories, but help me out. I'm just not going to sit here and wait for a third Navy ship to be rammed or get lost without asking questions. You know how much those ships cost us? Has anybody been fired for that? Has the captain gotten in trouble? When the Exxon Valdez, remember that? When the Ex-Anvaldives went and spilled oil, it was a massive, massive ordeal.

Here's our ships. Our ships brand new. That's the USS John McCain. Latest technology. Why don't we know everything about that? Why aren't those guys almost drawn and quartered for incompetent? Were they drunk? was the warning system that, hey, big ship, big ship.

I know my car says, my car talks to me when I start to go out of a lane. We don't have any kind of warning. Giant ship. Turn around. Almost every car released now has a proximity alarm. But our ship doesn't? It does. It does.

It does. It's called the Aegis system. It does. So have they disabled them? Are they not working? What is happening? I mean, the, so the one, obviously, the McCain one just happened. So we don't, they haven't done the investigation yet.

But the one from two months ago, they did relieve the captain from duty and such. And was he drunk? Don't think he was drunk. Okay. I don't, I have not read the entire report, but they. How did the captain? How did, I mean, that's beyond incompetence. It's beyond incompetence.

Only because it's not, think of the most sophisticated car with the proximity alarms. Right. I mean, we don't know. You know, this McCain thing obviously, again, just happened. But I mean, we don't know that they didn't know it was going to occur. I mean, you know, we don't know the, you know the, you know, we don't know the reasoning. We don't know how it happened. I mean, just because an alarm goes off doesn't mean you have, like, if your car alarm goes off and the guy next to you crashes into you anyway, it doesn't mean that you didn't know the proximity alarm was going off.

proximity alarm, it's different from a car to a ship. You ever heard, you know, this thing, turning this thing is like turning an aircraft carrier. You don't turn those on a dime. It's not a speedboat. So you don't turn them on a dime. So the proximity goes out. Those alarms go off way out to give you enough advance notice to have you stop, reverse, turn, do whatever you need to do to avoid that. how does it get that close that it's even a close a narrow miss imagine we have all kinds of

alarms to go off and if you've seen how busy our airports are when's the last time two planes collided at an airport has it ever happened maybe once I don't recall it it it could have happened, but I don't recall them. It's not frequent. Those planes are landing every 90 seconds. We've had near misses where planes are within what?

A thousand feet of each other. I think that, you know, again, they're different things, right? And we need to know what is going on before we can judge it. I don't think you can make comparisons to cars or planes at all. I know, because boats are bigger and slower. Right. It's harder. Right. I mean, if you've ever...

On the ocean is further out. Yeah, exactly. It takes longer in an airport. It's a slow. It's a slow wreck. Yeah, exactly. I mean, but we don't... This can be completely the fault of the other vessel, right?

I mean, and then you're at that point of whether you decide to fire at a merchant vessel. Or turn. Yeah, but if a smaller boat is coming at a larger boat, you can't just, like, move out of the way. It's not like you just lift up on stilts and the thing goes under you. Whatever hit that thing was big. Yeah. Did you see the damage? Yes, huge.

I mean, it was big. The one before of the Fitzgerald, they have let, you know, you said they let the captain go. And the fishermen said that they didn't have a radio. So they weren't listening anyway. So that small boat, you're right, they were just coming on the boat. There was no turning. There was no getting out of the way. That's why they got rid of the captain, right?

Yeah, that one, they seemed to blame on operator error. Yeah. But, I mean, well, all I, here's what I, Here's what I am tired of. Yesterday, we made a big deal. And I guess people, you know, if you went with your kids, that's one thing. I get it. You went with your kids.

It was a great memory to watch the, but did you see TV news yesterday? It was nonstop, wall-to-wall coverage. I walk in this morning, and they're still talking about the damn eclipse. With all of the things that are going on. I had this thought yesterday of that, like, this has taken 99 years. I got sick of it in. five seconds. It took 90. We waited for 99

years. I went, I looked at it for five seconds, got sick of it, and immediately turned to do, I can't believe this news coverage. It took 99 years to get here. And I still was frustrated in seconds. Our attention span is intriguing. I saw they've got National Guard

directing traffic out of Oregon, right? Yeah. We have big fish to fry, guys. We have bigger questions like, why? Why? What are these troops going to do in Afghanistan that will bring our boys home? What new information did the president have? Or did he just dismiss everything that had been said?

Is this truly the best course of action? 16 years. How much longer? I just want to know what does a win look like? So I know we've hit it. We can go home now. Now this, I'm going to tell you a story about Stephanie. Last year, Stephanie and her husband made a hard decision to take a transfer that her husband's work had offered them.

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Laura Ingram, who's going to pay for it? What's our measure of success? We didn't win with 100,000 troops. How are we going to win with 4,000 more? I thought we were going to drain the swamp in Washington, not clear the desert in Afghanistan. Joe Walsh, 17 days, 17 weeks, 17 months, 17 years, doesn't matter how long and we're in Afghanistan.

It's not going to change a damn thing. More in a minute. For the Glenn Beck Program. Black Program. Last night, the president, and said that he wants to send another 4,000 troops into Afghanistan. Did he say that? I don't think he did say that. No, he didn't actually give the number, you're right.

They're speculating that it'll be another 4,000 troops that they're going to send into Afghanistan. Could be more. I mean, we had 100,000 troops in there. But we didn't win. I don't know what winning even looks like. How many did the Soviets have in there all through the 80s? It's the place where where empires die.

And, you know, the idea was, let's go in and get Osama bin Laden. We did. And now we're still there. Children, children that were born during this war in 20, what, 19, will be eligible to go fight in the same war. we are entering a time to where war is becoming

meaningless for those in wealthy countries because we're not fighting them ourselves and they're becoming more and more robotic and our drones are fighting which are being flown here in the United States

it's a video game is there some responsibility that we have as people to actually feel the pain of war is there some responsibility that we actually know that human lives are being are being taken

in our name I'm a huge fan of muse they're not a fan of mine but I'm a huge fan of muse and met Bellamy, who was just a brilliant, brilliant writer. There was a CD that came out called The Resistance back in 2009, and I think it's my favorite muse collection. And it is the lyrics in 2009, I thought, were spot on.

But if you want to know why Brexit happened, This is a band that really is huge over in Europe. And you want to know what people are feeling, why Brexit is happening. All you have to do is read the lyrics of Muse. You see it. If you want to know what people are feeling and why if Donald Trump begins to fall into line

with all of the other presidents, that will make two presidents in a row that promised massive change. Barack Obama delivered his massive change. He went with health care. He got that done. He got a lot done. This president does not have the support of the GOP. He's fighting the GOP.

What a surprise. So he's not going to be able to deliver on anything big. And when that happens, there's only two consequences. They turn on him or he turns along with the people on Congress, both the GOP and the Democrats. And a lot of people think that's good. It's not. We're not a country of revolution. We're not a country of civil war.

The last time that happened, it almost killed us. We escaped by the skin of our teeth. And it was horrible. Scenes of death everywhere. I want you to listen to the lyrics of a song from Muse. It came out of 2009. And ever since I saw the president speak last night, I kept hearing these lyrics over and over in my head.

You and me, we are the same. We don't know or care who's to blame. But we know that whoever holds the reins, nothing will change. Our cause has gone insane. And these wars, they can't be won. And do you want them to go on and on? and on, why split these states when there can be only one and must we do as we're told? You and me fall in line to be punished for unproven crimes.

And we know that there's no one we can trust. Our ancient heroes, they're turning into dust. And these wars, they can't be won. Does anyone even know how they begun? they just promise to go on and on and on. I believe if the media and the politicians all across the world listen to the lyrics of Muse, they would see their future. People feel as though they're not being listened to.

People feel as though they're being lied to. people feel like everybody's in on it except them it doesn't make sense to us so what is it that they know that they're not telling us because there's no way they win these wars who's profiting on these because it's our kids that we're sending off

it's our kids that are paying the price and we don't even know why they're being fought and we are entering a place to where Mews goes, and that is an uprising. And you don't want an uprising. I don't think the average person wants an uprising. I don't think the average person has really thought it through when they say, destroy the whole system. This system is divine.

it's just been so badly abused. This system was designed to put you in power for the first time in human history to put you in power. And what happened? It gave us so many riches. It gave us so many diversions. It gave us so many things that made us fat and happy

and honestly blind and lazy that we didn't keep our eye on the ball. Go back today and listen to Eisenhower. I truly believe it's the last time a president gave a really self-sacrificing speech. Dwight Eisenhower was the allied commander of all of the forces. He was a general. If there's anybody that knew what the military could do, it was him. If there's anybody who had respect, the respect of the armed forces

and the respect of all those who fought with him, it was Dwight Eisenhower. He becomes president and he talks about the military industrial complex. Now, this is something that has become a conspiracy. theorists. Dream. It's a utopia for conspiracy theorists. Oh, the military industrial complex. But he warned us, if you don't, he said, for the very first time, we're going to have to have a standing army. We're going to have new technology. We're going to have to do things that we never

thought possible because we can all be dead in 18 minutes. but that's going to require you to stay vigilant or the military industrial complex the people who are just making money on the growth of machines of death are going to control things and I don't want to say that the people that are making war machines are evil

it's just this is just the system we're living in and they're making money and nobody wants to see their money cut off. And so they just keep going. And I honestly don't think it's because of money or anything else, but I don't know what the reason is. We're still fighting these wars. Because if you wanted to fight to win,

the United States has that capacity. It can fight to win. It can change the world just with its military might. And then come home. I want to talk to you next hour about an answer to all of this. Something I started talking about yesterday, that we all kind of have to do. It's time to take an inventory.

It's time to find out what we really believe, who we really are, and begin again with a blank sheet of paper. What is the story we're going to write for our country? What is the story we're going to write for ourselves? We'll do that next hour. Right now, let me tell you about LifeLock. Right now, if you haven't updated your smartphone operating system, you probably should.

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Trying to win. Fight it all out. Do the shock and awe that you promised. Only really do it. And then get out. I hate what they're doing now. And that's the problem. They're not going to fight this the right way.

We don't fight wars to win anymore. This doesn't teach anybody anything, except they can bleed us to death. It doesn't teach anybody anything. You go in, the point of war is to win and then to stop future wars. So you go in and you fight it with everything you have and you take the breath away from the enemy until they say, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, stop, stop, stop, stop.

And then you stop and say to the whole world, don't do that to us. Don't try to bring down our buildings with our people in them because we will do this again. Now, you've paid the price. I think you've learned your lesson. We're moving on. good luck to you. Leave us alone and we will leave you alone. That's the way you fight and win the war and the peace.

How is this going to show me. What does a win look like, Stu? I'm coming to a point where I think that's the wrong question. And I know this is, you know, I'm totally out of the mainstream of this room and to the audience. So I go enter this completely knowing that. It's fine. It's, you know, I don't know what a win looks like. I know what a win looked like in World War II, right?

World War II. We won. We knocked the Nazis are gone. We knocked him out. We won. 80 million people died for that. And while I, I'm really glad we won. Which war would you rather have?

A win in World War II or this, where we have lost 2,400 of our best people. And I, you can't not. Overstate how important that is. But it is different than 80 million. If you're going to compare the civilian casualties and all an enemy as well as ours, then you've got to make the death toll higher than that in Afghanistan. Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's a lot higher than that. Activist groups say about a million and a half.

Which in a country like Afghanistan? It's really significant. It's a lot of freaking people. I will say that's an activist estimate that I don't believe. But still, it's still hundreds of thousands likely. But again, I mean, I don't know. I mean. So why are we killing them again?

Help me out? Well, look, if you, I mean, this is, we have 12 seconds here before we have to go to break. So I don't think I can. Oh, okay. So that way you, there's no way you can win. See, that's what a win looks. This is what a win looks like. Really?

This is it? Yes. Okay, I got it. You give? Say, Uncle. Never! Back in a minute. This is the Glenn Beck program.

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Park ranger said, hey, hey, dude, what are you doing? Uh, nothing? You gonna do something against the statue? Guy actually was honest and said, yeah, I hate that guy. Says, that's weird, because Glenn Beck hates Woodrow Wilson and yet he's not blowing up his statues, but that's another point. The park ranger said, come along with me. they found nitroglycerin and other powerful explosives on him,

which he started to drink the nitroglycerin when he got caught, but then was like, oh man, this taste horrible. Yeah. America, it is time to get a grip. We cannot blow up statues and monuments because we don't like that guy, like that event, or we feel oppressed. We have to be a nation of laws, a people in control, or we're going to lapse into chaos.

And if your media source isn't telling you that, then you might as well go find a media source that will tell you the truth. Enlightenment. This is the Glen. Last night, I was not in a good mood yesterday at all, all day. And it was from dawn till dusk. And part of it was because I had just come back from Mexico and I was disgusted by what we were all doing with our time, including me, what I waste my time. I almost called my wife yesterday and just said, I'm coming home. Because it just seems like a waste of time with all of the things that are going on. And then, who, yesterday the eclipse happened.

My gosh, probably as impressive as the Y2K panic. You know, and the CNN coverage of that missing plane that went on for about two months. Oh, do you remember where you were when you first heard about that missing plane? I found myself last night actually walking outside, or yesterday afternoon, walking outside to see the eclipse. And I spent all of about 20 seconds. I put on the glasses, I looked up and I thought, ha, looks exactly like it does in the pictures, on television,

and a thousand other things I have seen a million times. And I don't think I can stand out here and go, wow, look how dark it's getting. Of course it's getting dark. It's a solar eclipse. Let's move on with our lives. That was just me. That was just me.

that coupled with the statue talk, that we're oppressed. And I should have more empathy because I've been there. I've been there. And my dad is the one who first got me to open my eyes. Stop complaining. And he did it in an unusual way. he didn't tell me like I think I said yesterday

I told Tanya last night was laying in bed I think I said shut up more times on the air than I ever have in my entire career perhaps combined just yesterday and I felt bad about it and I realized what my dad did in the same situation

instead of telling me shut up stop your whining He asked me to do something that I asked you to do yesterday. Make a list of all of the things that have happened in your life that are really, really bad. The worst things that have happened. I made my list this morning. I just give you the top four.

Number one, my mom committed suicide. Number two, my daughter has, has cerebral palsy, had strokes at birth. Number three, I came from a broken family and then broke up my own family, my divorce. Number four, my father, quite honestly, was a mixed bag. There was abuse in my family. And I was never close to my father, and then he became my best friend. and then some things happened

and I realized what a horrible fraud he was and we didn't speak to each other again. Those are my four. I could go on because I have a long list but in the time period that my dad and I were talking to each other and we'd have conversations every day

I called them up one day and I said, you know, Dad, basically let me translate into today's speak. I'm so oppressed. Everything's against me. My people at work are against me. And just, you know, I can't catch a break. And I've done everything I can.

And, you know, now I just don't know what to do. I just, you know, I've had a really tough life. And my dad said, you know what, you're right. Write a list down. He said, I've got some bread in the oven. He was a baker. I have some bread in the oven.

Write it down. Spend the afternoon, write it down. And then call me tonight, we'll talk. Didn't take me long because I think I got to about number four, and I figured it out. And I called him back. And I said, you don't have any bread in the oven at all, do you? And he laughed, and he said, good for you.

You're smarter than I thought. So what did I learn? and you need to learn this for yourself. America needs to learn this coast to coast. Here's what I learned. Out of the list I gave you, this obviously was not number four when my father was, when I thought I had my father figured out

and I hesitate to say any of this because I think now I have my father figured out and I don't think I will in my life. but the way I currently view my father is he was a pretty bad man. And I'm going to leave it at that. But if my father wasn't the man that he was, I wouldn't be the man who I am. I wouldn't stand for the week, I believe, as much as I do.

it's very personal to me to stand when everyone else is sitting down or refusing to say anything because I saw that happen in my family. No one stood for the week. And one of the last things I said to my father was this ends now. and someone in this family has got to change the direction of the family. And I think you tried, Dad, for a while, but you put down the football. And so now it's my turn. And I'm going to stand for the members of this family.

That bad experience with my father, which was horrendous and I would never want to happen. What I did with it was not what I would have done in the first half of it. of my life. In the first half of my life, I would have looked at it as something that just was in the column of everything is bad in my life and woe is me and look how troubled I am. My divorce, anybody who's been divorced, that's horrible, absolutely horrible. And the anger and the rage, and quite honestly, at times the hatred is really hard to overcome. And then the broken family and the trouble with the children. The damage just goes on and on and on.

But if it wasn't for that low point, I wouldn't have picked myself up. If it wasn't for me being alone on Christmas Eve, and I don't even know what year, 96, 97, alone just wanting, just feeling sorry for myself, quite honestly, and being faced with a choice, you either go on or you kill yourself. You either do what your mom did or you find a way to go on. And I didn't know how to go on, but I knew I didn't want to do what my mom did. And mainly, honestly, I was born a coward. If I was some sort of hero, I guess. If I had courage, I wouldn't have killed myself. I thank God I'm a coward. I was afraid. But it was that low point that turned me

into the man I am today in many ways and allowed me to find my true soulmate and love for all eternity. My wife, Tanya, who saved my life. I wouldn't have been there to meet her had I made a different choice earlier. My daughter, number two, had strokes at birth. It is because of those strokes that a 19 or 20 year old kid bargained with the Lord. First, take me, give it to me, not her. He wouldn't. I knew he wouldn't. Then I promise I will help children. I will, I will serve you. I will do whatever I can to serve you. That promise lives with me today. That promise is what when I left Connecticut is why we were

the biggest single food fundraiser in the state's history every single year. Probably still is. Probably nobody's ever broken that record. My mom committed suicide. Well, if my mom hadn't committed suicide, I wouldn't have moved in with my father, and my father drove me every weekend 60 miles back and forth, and then later 90 miles back and forth on the weekend, so I could do my part-time job in radio when I couldn't drive. There is no bad. Everything in my life.

I can either choose to have it oppress me, or I can choose to see. say, well, I don't, well, I wouldn't wish or pray for that. I'm grateful for that experience. And I'm grateful for the miracle of the change of perspective. Because that's all that happened. These are the things that weighed me down the first half of my life. All of the mistakes that I made, all of the bad things, they weighed me down. A miracle is a change of of perspective. I don't look at it that way anymore. Those are the things that drive me to be a better man. Our life is not set in stone. You could be in prison today. It doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. Choose to be someone that you were meant to be, not the person you allowed yourself to become.

everything you have in your life was built by you or others telling you who you are yesterday change the story find out who you really are there's no statue that can oppress you it's a dumb stupid dead inanimate statue how is that oppressing you how is how is how is my mother or my father and what happened with me and my dad. How is that oppressing me? Only by choice. I want you to take out a blank sheet of paper and I want you to start writing a new story. First, the story of who you want to be. I want you to look at who you were and what shaped that story, all of the bad things. And then look at those things and say, wow, I, If those wouldn't have happened, I wouldn't be where I am right now.

And trust me, it's a good thing that you are right where you are. Even in your lowest place, you're right exactly where you need to be to pull out a sheet of paper and begin a new life and a new story. Everything changes. There is nothing that we can't handle if we pray for that miracle of a change. of perspective. Liberty Safe is our sponsor this half hour. They not only make great safes, but they make it easy to own one.

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This, by the way, is this monologue is not coming out of no place. It has been something that I've been thinking about for the last six. months as I've been taking inventory of my life and where I'm headed and what I'm doing and why am I doing everything. And then also seeing this weekend being down in Mexico and seeing people who have far many more reasons to complain than me. I mean, being an actual slave and then being

named one of the country's most powerful women by Forbes magazine in two years. In two years. That's a choice. It's strange to hear you talk about your dad this way, though, because 30 years ago, that's not how it was. I mean, 10 years ago. Yeah, 15 years ago, it's not.

I know things changed at the end, but your dad was like an oracle when we first met in Baltimore. You used to impart the wisdom he imparted to you. And he was, he was like some sort of... Yoda. Yeah. He still, I mean, he was full of wisdom. He really was full of wisdom.

But I didn't find out, I didn't find out until push came to shove. He didn't live that wisdom. Yeah, it's kind of weird. He learned it. That's why it's so hard to get my head around that. I know. Man. Everything, everything that I thought about my dad turned out to be.

Um, not true. And it was, uh, you know, I've talked about it cryptically over the last five years or so. Mm-hmm. Uh, and said, someday I'll tell you I've lost my best friend. You didn't know that it was my dad. And, uh, it was a hard, hard road to hoe. Back to me. So let me put what I just said to you,

change of perspective is the biggest miracle you can have. Let me show you this in real time. This is last night. This is, as I climbed into bed and I was in a really bad mood. I wrote, wow, I saw it. The moon actually came between us and the sun. Jeez. Like that almost never happens.

or actually it does, but we don't usually see it because we can't stand in the middle of the parking lot that's in the middle of the ocean because there's no office buildings in the middle of the ocean. But I just keep replaying this in my head over and over. I can't seem to shake it. Do you know how sometimes? Sometimes when you go to a concert and the band isn't as good as when you hear them on the radio? Yeah, not here. No, sir.

This eclipse was everything we were promised and perhaps even more. looks just like it does on TV, except perhaps maybe less impressive and smaller. But wow, was that worth a 99-year wait, or however long it was or will be till we see it again next time? I'm going to be telling my children's children's children's children for years to come about how everything almost seemed to stand still as we all held our breath, standing there, wearing stupid paper glasses that somebody actually paid. for staring up in the sky just not knowing will the sun return it's just like the feeling I had when Reagan was shot I remember where I was when he was shot or or maybe the way you felt after you know midnight on the year 2000 oh do you remember the Y2K panic perhaps for you maybe it was more like the entire month of the

CNN coverage of that missing plane wow where were you when you first saw the coverage on CNN I for one, I think we're out in a parking lot with other sheep then and now, but that was just my experience. Take a moment to really ponder the millions of stories that are out there today. Where were you when the eclipse happened? We can only hope TV news will let us hear some of them in the days to come. All unique, sure, all of them,

and none of them driven by a massive. fear of missing out. What are the odds that someone else stood in the parking lot like I did, looking up while hearing someone else say, wow, look how dark it's getting. Pins and needles, people, effing pins and needles.

I laughed, I cried, I had the chills. Truly, truly, and I know it's been said before, this time I mean it better than cats. If the eclipse comes to your town, don't miss it. So,

That's what I wrote last night. Can you take a moment of enjoyment at a life? I mean, yesterday. I'm miserable. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Last night, no. Change of perspective. Today, not in a mood.

Today, let me share this perspective. This summer, I was up at the ranch. And we were roasting marshmallows over a fire. And we were standing there and we were talking and we were reading, I was reading the kids' stories. And the fire starts to go down and you see the Milky Way. Now where I have cabin, it's this, it's, there's no, there's no lights anywhere. There's no electricity for miles. And so it is beautiful at night.

and the sky is three-dimensional. And I remember the first time when I was living in New York, and the first time I went out there, and I started seeing the sky, I realized I hadn't seen the stars in forever. I hadn't seen, I hadn't really looked at the moon because man's construction of buildings was really impressive. The cities were awesome and it made you feel small.

But I never felt small like I do when you're standing around a campfire. And I was just thinking about this this summer. The problem is we no longer look up. We no longer think, wow, there's something much bigger than me. I'm very, very, very small. And yesterday, we had that opportunity, and I'm the one who missed it. We had the opportunity to go out and look up and experience just how small and unimportant in some ways we are to the rest of the universe. It was humbling.

And instead of me coming home and hearing us, about the kids and their experience with the eclipse, I came home in a bad mood and I didn't really care about the eclipse because perhaps I was feeling not small enough yesterday. That's a miracle. A miracle is just a change in perspective. And I pray to have many, many more. of those.

So you're happy again? Is that, that's the summary? I'm miserable. I'm always miserable. Okay, good. Who's the guy that we had on here that was talking about flow?

Remember that guy? Yes. We had the guy in here. He was talking about flow, talking about creative flow. I can't remember which book that was because we've read 1,400 of them in the past few months. But that was one of the things he talked about. And that's kind of what kicks it off.

You can get into that mode of real creativity and understanding, you know, having a different perspective. on the world from just massive feats of nature that kind of kicks the human being into that, you know, world. And I think we see that a lot of times with faith, too, and that, you know, those moments of like, wow, look at that. I mean, how can you say there's no God when you look at that?

That moment is, I think, you know, it's a real moment for people, and it does change perspectives. That's cute. But I can't be happy as long as there's offensive statues still up. I can't. I just can't. And I can't be happy. And quite honestly, I'm having a hard time with your, oh, wow, how could there not be God when the flat

earthers explained this yesterday. They did. And they explained it well. They did. Apparently there's a dome over our flat earth. So the dome, I guess, is somewhat semi-circular, right? It's a dome. It's a dome. It's a dome. But the earth

itself is just a flat round disc. Yes. And then we've got a dome over the top of all of that. That's why it looks like it's kind of going on a like it would be a, if we were theoretically a globe. Of course, that's the logical explanation. And they also say, boy, isn't it interesting, isn't it interesting that the moon and the sun look to us to be the same size, except you say one is really, really

giant. One is 400 times as far away, but it's also one 400th the size. Come on, people. How can you believe that? That's stupid. I mean, one of the odds. The sun is not 92 million miles away. It's 37 miles away. That is what the Flat Earth Society would like to point out. 37 miles away. It's really the size. it looks. And how is all that heat traveling through all that cold? It's not. It's not. They're just 37

miles and it's here. And if it's really that cold out there, how come it's hot here and cold in space? That doesn't make any sense. If it was warming all the way through those 92 million miles, space would be warm. Right. It's suddenly warm here and cold

in space. Come on. We all know. That doesn't make sense. I can't expect us to believe this stuff. They went to a point of like actually making diagrams of the sun and the moon and the earth and showing how, see, the shadows would be much bigger if that were true. That was their big point. What? How, I mean, wow.

How, how, how do they explain? Did we go to the moon? Do you know? No, no. We've not been to the moon. No. Right. Don't be silly.

That was done on a lot in, on a lot. in either Nevada or California. I can't remember where. You've actually talked to the president of the... Yeah, it's been a long time. I think it was like 20 years ago. I was in Salt Lake City at the time, so I think it was 97 or 98.

And yeah, he... I was really surprised by a couple of things, like the distance of the sun from the earth, which... I would really like to talk to them. I'd like to hear it. It'd be fun. I'd like to hear...

Be fun. Treat it, you know, like, you know, with respect. Yes. I'd like to really understand how... they believe all this works. I'd love to, instead of just say, oh, they're just a bunch of flat earthers, I really would like to understand the thinking behind that.

And have you ever been in a plane? I've never run into the dome. They didn't go high enough, that's all. Is that it? Yeah, you just didn't go high enough. Go higher and you'd run into it? The edge, too. The edge of, yeah, the edge of the disc.

I've flown around the world. Has to be somewhere, right? Have you? Yeah. Sure, that's what you believe. I mean, but have you? Have you flown around the world? You float to one spot to another spot. Yeah.

And you know what? The pilot said, oh, we're going. We keep going around the world. I swear. I mean, how would you know? You don't know? Is it something to do with, I mean, can you ever do they, do you know, Pat? Can you ever get to the edge of the earth?

I know I asked him that. I don't remember what the answer was. I don't remember. I demand that you find a way to get these guys on it. It might have been centrifugal force, which they may believe in, but they don't believe in gravity. So I can't believe they believe in centrifugal force. So like we're in a. giant roundup.

Yeah, I guess. And we're just spinning around really fast. Yeah. Well, how come we're not all just piled in... You would think some of the water would splash over the edge too. And what do you think is causing the waves? And how come we're not all just like, you know, pressed up against the middle of, you know, a mountain in the middle of the disc?

If we're on a roundup and there's centrifugal force, shouldn't we all just be like pressed up against a mountain? I, these are questions we're going to have to ask of him. Okay. I don't know the answer to them. For those of you who believe in, you know, the sun and the moon and the spherical earth. Yeah.

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and the governments of the world are going to allow private businesses to control money and that bet is Bitcoin and a friend of mine who runs Zapo.com, X-A-P-O-com, happens to be in town. He grew up in Argentina, and he remembers when the currency collapsed,

and the stories that he has told me are just unbelievable. And there is this run on Bitcoin that's going right now, and I don't know if it's real or not. I think it is, but I don't know what's going to happen to Bitcoin. I can't, I can't imagine the central banks of the world saying, oh, you know why? We're going to get out of that business. I just, I can't imagine it.

But he says that Bitcoin is going to be more important or a bigger change to our lives than the Internet. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, he's a Silicon Valley entrepreneur and deep, deep think he's ever been on this show before and wanted to have him in. He happened to be in town and was going to stop by, and I asked him if he would be willing to come in and just explain Bitcoin and what's happening and what he believes the future looks like that's coming up. And he's going to bring us a handful of Bitcoin each, which is nice. I thought that was a nice way to welcome. A, they don't exist, and I don't think at the price.

just going to start giving them out. Probably not. No. Well, they're about 4,000 per coin right now. Now, remember, when Donald Trump announced for president, it came down the golden escalator, they were about $260 a coin. And now they're 4,000. I mean, first of all, Donald Trump coming down the escalator feels like it was 1874,

but it was not. It was actually 2015. But just a couple of years ago. And you could have made, you know, 20 times your money almost. The first time Bitcoin was ever used in a transaction, it was used to buy a pizza. I think it was Papa John's pizza. Okay. So we're not talking to an extravagant pizza, but I don't remember how many Bitcoins it took to actually buy the pizza.

But it was $8,900? No. No, close. It was 10,000. 10,000. 10,000 Bitcoin. So if you paid for that piece, if you had those 10,000 Bitcoin's, you. today

it's a good it's a good number uh you're at uh let's say 40 million dollars 40 million dollar pizza that was a 40 million dollar pizza so it was whoever made that person it was an extravagant pizza it won't have you bad ones it wasn't the papa john's pizza yeah you know how there are people

in silicon valley that you know they're putting like gold leaf on their steaks and stuff this that's just like eating 40 million dollars with a gold and it was a papa john's pizza wasn't good enough to justify 40 million There have been times in my life. I would have... I would have...

Like right now. I would have... Yes, I'm not hungry right now. How much money do you have on you? Because I can make it happen. Not 40 million. It's amazing. I'd love to talk to that guy and see how many Bitcoin he has left.

He's one of the original miners and everything. So he probably... That was not his only stash, I'm sure. He's probably still very wealthy at this time. 40. million dollars on a pizza. And it wasn't that long ago. No.

It wasn't that long ago. We'll talk about that and so much more when we come back. Get a Casper mattress and start your year off right. Try it in your home for 100 nights, risk-free. Go to casper.com slash Glenn. $50 off the purchase of your mattress, terms and conditions to apply. So I have a friend that we met maybe four, five years ago. and asked him to come by to explain Bitcoin the first time we met and didn't get it.

And still, Bitcoin is such a foreign concept to most people that it's hard to get your arms around and hard to see the world changing this much. But then take a gander. Look at what is happening to the world. this is the kind of change that we're headed for. We have Wenchess Casarius. He is the CEO of XAPO.com. This is a wallet.

He's a startup guy. It's a Bitcoin wallet. And full disclosure, the company that I use to buy and keep Bitcoin, could be one of those things that, you know, those people who are like, yeah, my grandfather, bought something, you know, stock in the thing called the telephone. And now you have an empire. That's kind of the deal.

It was 10 years ago that one of the first guys to do a person to person. In fact, I think it was the first guy to do person to person transaction, bought a pizza with Bitcoin seven years ago. The Bitcoin that it took to buy that Papa John. pizza, today worth $40 million. And that was seven years ago. What is coming in the future? We begin there right now.

And enlightenment. This is the Glenn. Winches Casarius, he is the CEO of Zappo.com, XAPO.com. He's a technology entrepreneur, founder and CEO of this Bitcoin Wallet startup. up, he says that Bitcoin will end up being bigger than the Internet itself and changing our lives more than the Internet. That is quite a claim, Winches. Yes. I also think that Bitcoin is an experiment still, and as such it has chances of failing and chances of failing that are non-trivial, So it's quite probable that it can also fail.

But if it succeeds, it's likely to be more important than the internet itself, especially for many billions of people I could imagine in the future, preferring that you take away their internet, but not their Bitcoin. Okay, so I want to get to that here in a second, but I want to just explain what he just said was so true. And it's why I've said to people, look, you have $500. You should put it into Bitcoin. But don't put anything into Bitcoin that you actually think.

oh man I'd hate to lose that then don't put it in because it is really risky you don't make the kind of money that is being made even right now on something that's not risky this is really risky this is incredibly risky and what you're saying is very good advice which is nobody should own an amount of bitcoin they cannot afford to lose because they may very well lose it so it's important to understand that any money you cannot afford to lose you should not have in bitcoin rates you only be play money that if you lose it, you're okay. Right. Small amount.

And that kind of explains. I mean, there's, there, what is it, 90% do, of the people who own Bitcoin, maybe even more, less, own less than one Bitcoin. Yeah. I mean, people are in it literally for 500 bucks or $100 or $100 or whatever. Is there a minimum getting in? There is no minimum. Okay.

So tell me how you believe people will say, don't take my Bitcoin, but you can take my Internet. What do you mean by that? Understanding Bitcoin, Bitcoin is simpler than the Internet, at a technical level, if you will. And I think that when people don't understand it, it's not their fault, but our fault, the people explaining it. We make it more complicated that it needs to be, because it's a lot. It makes us sound more intelligent, I guess, or something. We try that a lot, too. It doesn't work for us.

You think about it, most people feel confident and comfortable about their understanding of the Internet, without really understanding how it works. How it really works, technically. It's not necessary to understand it. Or even a credit card, right? Most people feel very confident with a credit card, understanding how it works.

But if you ask them what happens when you swipe the card, where does that information go? Does it go to your bank or to the merchants bank? At what point does it get approved? Who says it, right? We don't really need to understand all of those details to understand how credit cards work and what they can and cannot do for us, et cetera.

Same thing with the Internet and the same thing for Bitcoin. And the things that do matter and that we need to understand of Bitcoin are quite simple, really, and it's three. Three things that make Bitcoin unique that were not, that did not exist before Bitcoin existed, that Bitcoin brought to the world. Number one,

important, it's that it's not controlled by anyone and it is not possible to control it. It's a key feature without it, it would be irrelevant. It has a lot of very positive consequences. It has some potentially negative consequences, but it's what makes Bitcoin Bitcoin. Nobody can control it. Not me, not any group of people, not any company, not any country, not any army. Nobody can control it. That's number one. Number two is there will never be more than 21 million Bitcoin. It's a finite number. And that cannot be changed. And number three, whenever you have some Bitcoin, you are free to send it to anyone you want, anywhere in the world pretty much in real time and pretty much free or very, very low cost. It's that last quality.

It's quite revolutionary. And I call it, a lot of people call it the uncensurability of Bitcoin. No one can keep you from acquiring some Bitcoin. It's impossible to do. No one can keep you from keeping those Bitcoin, and no one can keep you from sending those Bitcoin to whomever you want. You put those three qualities together, and that's really all you need to understand about Bitcoin. How that gets accomplished, it's complicated and technical,

but not really need it to understand, just like you don't need to understand how the Internet manages to deliver all of these movies and stuff that it does. You grew up in Argentina. when the economy collapsed, when the money collapsed. Correct. And I'm imagining that that drives you quite a bit when it comes to Bitcoin. I think so, yes. I would imagine so.

Tell me the story of what it's like when there's a currency collapse. My parents are sheep ranchers, and in my lifetime, in my childhood, I saw them lose everything three times. The first time that I have a memory of it, it's because of a hyperinflation. And I have this, every time that they lose everything, it was because something happened with the country, either hyperinflation or the government confiscated all bank deposits or a huge devaluation, right? All kinds of crazy experiments that are hard to fathom from the perspective of someone who has lived in an economy where you always been able to trust the dollar and the banks, and so did your parents and grandparents.

I have this memory of my mom coming to get my two sisters and I out of school that never happened before, so something was going on. And in the middle of the school day, and she was carrying two plastic bags full of cash. And she was a receptionist at the government bureau, and she had just been paid. And her salary fit two plastic bags of cash, of bills. And she took us to the supermarket, and she gave us a list and told us what to. carry, you each had an aisle. We got all of those things, and we all met at the cashier. And after everything had gone through the cashier,

there was some money left over, and she sent us back to get more stuff. And one of my sisters asked, why don't we save some money for tomorrow? My mom explained, no, tomorrow it's going to be worth less. We have to spend it all today. And I would never forget that partly, because it's easy to understand the economic and financial consequences in a family, in a society

of that. But it's harder to imagine what's really going on, which is much more beyond the financial consequences. It said something happens to the social fabric when people cannot trust something as basic as money, and a lot of people go crazy and desperate. And something very quickly, some trust breaks down that takes years. to rebuild. Talking to the CEO of zapo.com, x-a-po.com, it is a Bitcoin wallet startup. So I buy my Bitcoin and it's now in a wallet. It's in your bank, if you will.

If I'm not mistaken, your bank is buried in some mountain in Switzerland or something, right? Correct. But it's not a bank like we think of a bank. No. It is a banking that you can use us to buy Bitcoin, to store, to keep the Bitcoin safely, to make it very easy to acquire the Bitcoin, to store them safely, to send Bitcoin. It is not like a bank in a more technical manner in which today, when you go to a normal bank, they own your money and they owe it to you.

So if you look at their balance sheet, they have an asset that is the money you gave them, and a liability that is what they owe to you. We are a purely custodian, so we do not own your Bitcoins. Your bitcoins are only yours. And there's many reasons why we think that that's a lot safer. So we are the digital equivalent of a safety deposit box, right? And the safety deposit box is ours, but whatever is inside, it's yours. And if we were to disappear or go bankrupt, what can go away is the safety deposit box,

but the contents have to go back to you. And what makes you think that, well, before. we get there. Tell me what happened with this fork in the road because this caused some some real panic with people because they didn't know, they really didn't even understand the

concept that Bitcoin because it's becoming to be used more frequently, I believe Japan now is recognizing it as an official currency. And if I'm not mistaken, isn't Japan becoming a Bitcoin society?

Yeah. Yeah. So, and because the transactions are happening so rapidly, there was talk about, we have to have a faster way to process these. This is my understanding. And there became this fork in the road between Bitcoin cash and Bitcoin. I don't know the difference. What is the difference? Not really, again, it's not really a very big deal, basically what happened. And Bitcoin is an open source software. we all can see every single line is public.

And the five of us could do another work again if we want it. You just copy all the code, paste it, and run it ourselves or run it with another group of people. And it's up to the market to decide if they want to use ours or the other one. So this was always a possibility. Finally, someone did it for the first time. I think this will be a feature of Bitcoin going forward. We will see forks here and there.

And there will always be one version of Bitcoin that is the most used, the one that has the longest history. And then there will be others that will be like cousins that were derived of Bitcoin, but will turn out to be different, right? Can you turn your Bitcoin into cash? Of course, into normal cash? Yeah. Of course, yeah.

It's like any currency. Yeah. And what is the percentage now of things that you can buy? I mean, there was a big push. We spoke five years ago. Let's get, you know, people need to start, you know, companies need to start taking Bitcoin as payment. What are the big companies doing to accept it?

Are you seeing any big movement? There's about 100,000 merchants online that accept Bitcoin. It's my opinion that, that Bitcoin has been around for less than nine years, and it will take another decade or two for it to get established. I think that the age of Bitcoin becoming a way to pay at a merchant is quite far away. I think that the era we're looking at is about something very different. In fact, I think that things like what we are seeing,

we had to go this year through the fork for everybody to stop worrying and learn that it's not a big deal. Forks are something we can live with. It doesn't really hurt anyone. But until it happened, a lot of people were freaking out about it, right? And I can tell you so many things that people freaked out about every three months in Bitcoin, and we have to see them happen for people to say, oh, it's good. Oh, it's well thought out.

Oh, it's robust. It works. I think we have a lot more of that to come. Right now, I think Bitcoin is in this first stage establishing itself more. more as a, as a, not so much for payment as a way, more what you're, what you said that you're doing, Glenn, which is you're holding it as a store of value just in case. Not unlike what some families did with, they had somewhere in the house a stash of some jewelry just in case, right? Or some gold. It's more like that. And only if it succeeds at that first with very massive

adoption in the hundreds of millions of people, it will then make sense as a payment mechanism. But right now it's a bit too early. It can be used, and a lot of people do use it, but from my subjective point of view, the more important thing that is happening at this stage is it's expanding as a store of value. Wences Kassarius, he is the CEO of ZAPOL.com, X-A-P-O-com. you should check it out and as I said earlier don't put money into this that you can't

easily say I'm fine without it at this point is one of those things that could make you a lot of money and you could lose every single dime and so you put just a little bit in there to just what the heck let's give it a whirl

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a risk to this, but the world completely changes if it works. And you were just saying that there's about a 20% chance you lose all the money, right? I would say at least a 20% chance you lose all the money. Okay. And you said you thought that there was... On the other hand, there's some upside. You're saying that there's a 50% chance that Bitcoin, one single Bitcoin now worth $4,000, was worth 200 when Trump took that long escalator ride down two years ago.

You're saying that in 10 years, you believe that could hit a million dollars. I think there is a 50% chance that one Bitcoin could be worth more than a million dollars. That's worth the $4,000 investment, right? What I would say is that it's very worth, just like I would say, the most irresponsible thing you could do, would be to own an amount of Bitcoin you cannot afford to lose. To have the kids' college fund there or your retirement or a mortgage, that would be really the most irresponsible thing. But if you put $500 in because you're like, you know what,

we're going to scrimp and we're going to save and I'm not touching our savings, I'm not touching anything, or just going to stop going to movies, going out to eat for a while. I'll have $500 in. $500 is worth a lot of money if this is right in 10 years. Yeah, that's my point is that the second most irresponsible thing you could do is not to have any, right?

It's so asymmetrical that you can have something that doesn't really, is not material to you, but it can have a very material impact on your life, so why not do it? Okay, back in just a second. What does the world look like? Should he be right? When we come back?

So you've got to stop going out to eat now. This is the Glenn Beck program. Mercury. Glenn Beck Program Wences Casarius, he is the CEO of ZAPO.com X-A-P-O-com. Full disclosure, I am a client,

have been for a while, of Wynch's company, bought Bitcoin and bought it in a way that I think is reasonable. You have to make your own decisions, but I looked at, you know, what we have in savings

and said, honey, what are we willing just to, if we were going out on a crazy bender, what would you be comfortable losing, you know, on a crazy bender, you know, for our 20th anniversary

or whatever, we just flush it down the toilet. What's that number? She came up with the number and I looked at it and said, okay, maybe a little lower than that or a little higher than that. Did she shut her when you said 20th anniversary? Yeah, she did.

And she thought blackouts would be included. So she was willing to go a little higher. But anyway, and that's what you put in. You don't put money in this at this point. I think it's irresponsible to advise you to put money into this because you could lose every penny of this. And I think you could lose every penny because I just don't see a way to where the central banks say, okay, well, we're going to let a private industry go ahead and take the money supply over. but maybe we can get to that.

I want to get to the upside on this because I just read an article and Stu and I were talking about it last week that some experts are saying that Bitcoin could go up to what was it, 200,000? There was 10,000 to 100,000 is the idea. And you're saying that you think in 10 years

that it could go up to a million plus in Bitcoin. Yes, I think that what you are giving is very sound advice. Nobody should own an amount of Bitcoin they cannot afford to lose because they may very well lose it and regret it. And you could buy $5 worth. You can buy any amount, $5, $2, $10, any amount you want. And I think the most irresponsible mistake would be to own an amount of Bitcoin that you cannot afford to lose. But the second most I responsible would be to not own any, because I do think that if Bitcoin succeeds, it's likely to be worth

more than a million dollars in less than 10 years. And I think there's about a lot. a 50% chance. That would have sounded crazy even three years ago. I think it still sounds crazy and I think there's tons of risk to it. Yeah, but there's not as, it's not as crazy as it was when it was at 0.008 cents. And every day that Bitcoin doesn't disappear and that we can remove another layer of fear, oh, we have fear of the Chinese, or we have fear of the fork, or we have fear, there's always something. Every day, we, we, we can remove. We, we can, go past one hurdle, it's more likely to succeed. Is there an event that would change the game for Bitcoin in a positive way?

I get it a lot from questions like this, from journalists and also venture capitalists and other types who are, who have a part of their job is to chase news or shiny new objects. I think the rise of Bitcoin is meant to be boring, like the rise of email, right? If someone was charged with reporting with the rise of email, it would have been the most boring thing ever. Oh, today there's X more people using email, and now they're using it also for work, not just to say, happy birthday, oh, now there are more messages being sent, but it's just more of the same. So if you do a copy paste of the last eight years of Bitcoin, one or two times, it gets there without anything shiny or new.

It succeeds. Today there's about 35 million people who own Bitcoin. There's about 250,000 new people buying Bitcoin every day. It's moving about half a million, half a billion dollars a day, 500 million dollars a day, and it's doubling every six months. What does the world look like? when Bitcoin is, let's just say, makes it $500,000 a coin. I think that a world in with Bitcoin succeeds,

it's a world in which Bitcoin has become the world's first global, non-political standard of value, and at the same time, the first global non-political standard of settlement. This sounds very conceptual, but I'll give you very, Tangi, very concrete examples of what this means. We used to have this for 5,000 years in the form of gold, but about 500 years ago, gold was slowly replaced by reserve currencies,

the last one being the dollar. And the reserve currencies have not been so good at being a standard of value. For example, if I want to compare how much my grandfather paid for his first cabin in Patagonia, He first got there with how much your grandfather paid for a cabin somewhere or a house somewhere. We can very easily compare the square footage of my grandfather's cabin with your grandfathers. But when we want to compare the value,

it's complicated because there are different currencies, different times, complicated. And sometimes even it will involve some subjectivity in how we calculate it. And in truth, it shouldn't be, it should be just as easy as comparing square free. It used to be just as easy. If you want to compare how much cost Genghis' guns to put together his army,

which how much it cost Cleopatra to put together her army, even though they are very different time periods, very different geographies with different military technologies, it's very easy to compare because both did it around the gold standard. You can measure very easily. People don't understand. A $20 gold piece, you used to be able to walk in and buy a really good suit.

I mean, top-of-the-line man's suit for, and maybe a shave and a haircut for a $20 gold piece. That's about what that same $20 gold piece would buy you today if you walked in. It's just an ounce. And an ounce of gold is about $1,500, $2,000.

And so a really, really good suit. That's what you're paying. That shows you the inflation. It was $20. It still is, according to gold, $20. keeps changing. Yeah. Imagine in in Paris there is a meter inside the glass cage, a platinum meter, inside a glass cage, and it's supposed to represent the standard of a meter. And a

thousand of those, it's a kilometer, and it makes length comparisons and very easy. But imagine if according to some political necessity of the year, we change it a little every year. We make it a little longer, sometimes a lot longer, sometimes maybe a little bit. shorter. Imagine how hard it would be to compare any length or to just keep track of stuff. Well, that's what we're doing with value and it doesn't make any sense. Going through what you went through in Argentina, do you see the same types of things in other countries like this one? I mean, as far as, you know, the hyperinflation. I mean, with this world you're talking about with a million dollar bitcoins, is this a world where, you know, national currencies have collapsed

and they've gone to Bitcoin? What is that? No, I think that. In my opinion, and again, this is objective, in my opinion, a world in which Bitcoin succeeds, it's a world in which all countries still keep their currencies. Countries will never have an incentive to move to Bitcoin. In fact, I think it would probably be bad for national economies to switch to Bitcoin because it's giving up a lot of tools that countries can use for good if they do so responsibly. But a world in which Bitcoin succeeded is a world in which whenever you ask for the price of a currency, you say, what's the price of the euro?

you get a price in Bitcoin. 3,200 bits. What's the price of the New Zealand dollar? 1,200 bits. And what's the price of the Turkish lira? 800 bits? And when your grandkids ask you, why was it different when you were growing up?

How did you ask for the price of a currency? And you'll say, well, when you ask for the price of the euro, we set it in dollars. And when you ask for the price of the dollar, we set it in euro or yen. It's like, wow, that's weird. You did it in terms of analysis, like asking for the price of oil

and have it in terms of copper. And yeah, well, that's how we did it, right? A world in which Bitcoin succeed, that goes away. And whenever you ask for the price of a currency, all the currencies exist, but they are priced in terms of Bitcoin, which is the first global, non-political standard of value. When you ask for the price of a commodity, whether it's copper or oil or something else,

you get a price Bitcoin. When someone from Kenya is transacting with someone from China, then you use the Kenyan shilling or the Chinese yuan, right? Or the dollar or the euro. They use something that is a political, that is global. I think that's why, at least this audience is interested in this, because you have two of the things that you talked about. One is no political control.

There's a healthy skepticism of government in this audience, and I think that's a great thing. And the other part is scarcity. We see, you know, every time we want to solve a problem, we print another trillion dollars, and that is something that is not possible with Bitcoin. And so it solves the two major things that I think scare people. about currency.

Yeah. And in that regard, it could be very much like gold was for 5,000 years, and gold worked really, really well as a standard of value for 5,000 years. But then it has something else. That's a standard of value part. But then it has something else that is even more powerful, that it has embedded in it and a standard of settlement, meaning that anybody can settle with anyone anytime,

and pretty much for free, without asking anyone's permission. Today, if you want to settle with someone, you need to be part of a network, and those networks can only, you can only belong if you are a bank. Where it's Visa or MasterCard networks, you have to be a bank to belong, or whether it's the ACH network in the US, you have to be a bank to belong, or the SEPA network in Europe, you have to be a bank to belong there, or the Fedwire or Swift. And that adds cost, at risk, time, restrictions. This is a settlement network that anybody can participate. It's open 24-7. So imagine that Russia is a China with a war with China During that war, anybody from Russia can settle with anyone from China on a Sunday at 2 a.m. without asking anyone's permission. So that makes the standard of value even more powerful because you know you can settle

At any given time with anyone. Talking to Wenchus Casares, he is the CEO of Zapo.com xapo.com. It's a Bitcoin wallet and That's where you can buy your Bitcoin and store your Bitcoin and do transactions with Bitcoin. You live through Argentina and hyperinflation, the destruction of money then. People are living in denial here in America. I mean, I talk to really smart people and I say, the stock market makes no sense. That is the beginning of hyper-involve. inflation. That is, all these big people and companies have all these great reserves. They're pouring

it into the market. That's what's driving it up. It's not real. And they are in full denial that we are seeing the beginnings of inflation. It's just where the dollars are. The average person doesn't have the dollar. The big banks and corporations, they have access to the dollar and they're making lots of money on it, but it's not real. Do you see the world that way? I cannot help but seeing it that way because of the way I grew up in Argentina. I do think that we are doing something from the monetary point of view that it's new. It's an experiment. And I understand people who are much more intelligent than I am and more educated who explain to me why this experiment makes sense and why can work well, right? It's an experiment where we're never

in the history of civilization, how we print it. this amount of money, the way the US is printing, the way Europe, the way Japan is printing, pretty much everybody. We've never had this kind of printing of debt. We've never before had this negative yielding debt. All of that is an experiment, a financial experiment of a scale never seen before. And very intelligent people who have studied a lot more

than I have these subjects tell us that there are reasons why it makes sense and it may end up well. Having grown up in Argentina, kind of, it goes against sort of my, my DNA, and it makes me very, very nervous. And that's why I think, that's why I do think that it makes sense to have something that is completely a political, a standard of value with whom nobody can mess with politically or even militarily, et cetera, that we can all trust as much as we trusted the dollar or the, we trusted gold before that.

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We are going to be covering the news of the day. And also looking into some things that we kind of put into action yesterday for the love of Pete. Stu is trying to work new technology and is just, you will look like. But trust me on Bitcoin. I can't get my stupid camera phone to work, but trust me on Bitcoin. I don't understand it. It was working before.

Now it's going all upside out. Oh my gosh. You are just, you are ridiculous. You are absolutely ridiculous. I will. You can follow on Facebook live and in a minute. You'll see a lot of them. It sounds great.

Sounds great. What do you guys have up for the Pat and Stu show today? Lots of good stuff. Yeah, I want to talk about. This monument in Baltimore, the very first monument to Columbus in the world. It's been there for 225 years. Somebody took a sledgehammer to it last night. Well, because he's a genocidal maniac.

Of course. Of course. Why wouldn't you do that? Why wouldn't you bring down the Columbus statue? Well, the Columbus Circle, I mean, we were there years ago. He lived in New York, lived by Columbus Circle, walk by it every day and go, yeah, not a chance this thing's going to last. Yeah.

I mean, it's just not going to last. There was some reason Dershowitz I heard this morning calling for some calm and saying, look, let's have a rational discussion if we want to move these statues. Let's move them into museums where they belong in history. Let's not be the people of Iraq after Saddam Hussein for the love of Pete. Too late for that. That's crazy. Yeah, apparently it is.

Too late for that. We'll see you tonight. Five o'clock on the Blaze TV. This is the Glenn Beck program. Mercury.