The Glenn Beck Program - 8/4/17 - Don't embrace your anger (Bill O'Reilly & Andrew Lumish join Glenn)

Episode Date: August 4, 2017

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The Blaze Radio Network. On Demand. Hello, America. A lot of things to cover today. It is Friday. We're going to give you an update on Amy's fight to keep her children in Oregon. We have an update on everything that is happening in Washington. We have an update from a guest that we had yesterday.

This amazing woman whose son died in the biggest day of day. death for our naval special operations. You'll remember it as, I think it was, was it extortion 17 or 18, something like that. It was the helicopter where everybody got onto the helicopter and the Afghans blew it out of the sky. This happened, I think, six years ago. This changed her life. She was on the television show with me last night.

And she's really going in a different direction. She's instead of hate, instead of. of anger, instead of curling up on a ball and dying. Honestly, and instead of, you know, getting up and saying, I'm going to march to change Washington, she really has the answer. And I spoke to her yesterday on television. And there was an amazing piece that just kind of came out that we didn't ask her on radio yesterday. And I didn't expect this answer. And it is powerful. We begin there right now. Entertainment and Enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. There is something in, yes, believe it or not, I don't read Teen Vogue, but I'm going to quote something from

teen vogue because we have people on staff that read things so you don't have to and I don't have to there is a journalist her name is Lori Penny she's the author of a new book called The Bitch Doctrine and she says many women you know are angrier

than you can possibly imagine most are pretty good at hiding it having been taught to do so since childhood one of the questions I'm asked most often when I give talks about my books on gender and politics is about anger young women ask me how I get away with expressing anger with such apparent ease, and they worry about men's reaction if they do the same.

These questions are usually veiled requests for permission. Female anger is taboo, and with good reason, if we ever spoke about it directly, in numbers too big to dismiss, one or two things might have to change. Young women who will come to my events tell me that they want to be more forthright, but they're extremely worried about coming across is too angry. I usually reply that there are worse things to be. Stand up for yourself. If you assert your right to self-respect and bodily autonomy,

if you raise your voice above a whisper, if you leave the house with a sweet smile slathered across your face, some people will call you shrill, a scold, a nag, bitter and a bitch. That's all right. She goes on to say that you should embrace your anger. What kind of advice is this? What are we turning into? You should not embrace your anger.

Where is your anger going to get us? And if I may just say, I know this because it's what we fought against in our own self during the tea party. We were angry and we all fought against the anger. I shouldn't sense all of us. And what happened in the end? because they kept shoving our face down into the mud, calling us names, calling us cooks, calling us crazy, calling us racists, because we said our states should have power and not the federal government.

All the same things that Californians are now saying, that lefties are now saying, hey, maybe state rights, but they don't want to use that word. I want to use that phrase. Now they're pushing anger. and we are embracing anger. What one generation tolerates the next will embrace. Well, we're embracing anger.

So what are we tolerating? What's beyond that? And what does that mean for our children? So yesterday, I had a woman on the air. She was just fantastic. Do we have her book? What was the name of her book? anybody remember

Karen Vaughan Yeah what was the name of the book We'll get it here in a minute World Changer Okay yes So her son was killed In what I believe to be a government set up

At worst Government corruption At best It was the largest Naval Special Operations Disaster in our country's history More people died in one day with special operations than ever before. I think it was 35 people died.

That 35 people into a helicopter. Remember this is the story where some of the Afghan advisors got off the helicopter at the last minute? Well, we found out some more from her yesterday. Now, you want to talk about a woman who could be angry? I asked her because she has this, she has a plan to move women forward that I really think is right. And I asked her, how did you not get

wrapped up in the anger and the hatred because of your son's death? Listen to this. How did you, you obviously heard the speculation I have Navy SEAL friends who are beside themselves and believe that that was

almost an intentional take down on our side. How did you not get wrapped up into that? I actually did. My husband and I have actually been very vocal about this. He wrote a book in 2013 called Betrayed, the shocking true story of extortion 17, because as we were given 2,500 pages of military testimony in a debriefing that the families were brought in for in October of 2011. And as we started reading through those pages, Glenn, we could not believe, we could not believe what was being done to the men and women fighting for this country.

We were working with a group called the OCU, the operational coordination group of Afghanistan. They had eyes on every single operation, special ops were running. They had eyes on our flight routes, our landing zones, everything. And yet military leaders told the families that there was no way the Afghans could have known where that chopper was going to land that night. But the story is so broad and so complex. I don't know if you've heard recently that the AC-130 Spectre Gunship overhead, The fires commander from that airship has started speaking out about the lies that the government told the family.

The lies the military told the family. And one day, by the grace of God, Glenn, we will get to the bottom of what happened that night. In my deepest speculation, we trusted the Afghans. They were given intel. We were given intel based on Afghan intel because the Air Weapons team said nothing was going on. There was absolutely no reason for those seals to come in to make a really big story small. and yet the intel the seals were getting was that it's so hot there that a second chopper won't make it in get on one chopper all of you so 30 americans and eight afghans piled into a single helicopter that night and were shot down by an afghan that was in the landing zone an afghan by the way that the air weapons team above requested eight times to kill before the chopper got there and eight times they were denied it's a stunning story and one day i pray you know what i pray the most is no for no mom monetary benefit to me whatsoever.

I pray the most that it's made into a movie so that America can really see what happened that night because it is a shocking revelation of what happened during the Obama administration to our warfighters. So she did not she did not give in to the anger

and the what could have easily become hate. Here's a woman who has every right to be. She told me off the air about a story I'd never even heard of. She's like, you haven't heard this story about the Navy, I think he was SEALs, special operations guy, who had half his face blown off, was in Bethesda.

His family comes after healing, after a reconstructive, reconstructive surgery on his face. Literally, he survives getting half of his face, literally blown off. The hospital kills him. Because they gave him an overdose of morphine. Okay. All right.

Well, is that fixed? No. No, because the hospital wouldn't admit that they did that. It was the family that insisted on an autopsy because the hospital said he just choked on his own vomit. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. Yeah, yeah, he did.

No, he didn't. No, there's no reason for an autopsy. Well, the hospital, Bethesda, our VA hospital, hiding this from the family. Now we don't need to know this because they're going to sue or anything else, but because if you don't admit a problem, you'll never be able to solve it. This woman has reason to be real angry. I read something this morning from psychology today.

Is there an emotion that is more understood than anger? Many believe that holding anger in is bad for you, that it only builds pressure and has to be expressed. In fact, sudden burst of anger or prolong anger are bad for you. A strong emotion that is accompanied by arousal of the nervous system, anger produces effects throughout the body. It eats away at your cardiovascular system. Your gut and hijacks your nervous system. It often obliterates the capacity to clear thinking.

It may even grow in intensity. Express it and you're not better off. Anger doesn't automatically dis-exempting. automatically dissipate by being unleashed. Rarely do we experience a catharsis. Venting it in words or action doesn't make anger easier to manage. Often it only increases the intensity of the feeling. Anger feeds on itself. Plus, by furthering aggression, it often brings irreversible damage to those in the immediate vicinity. We're all angry. All of us on all sides. We're all angry. And we all have a right to be angry.

You know, in reading that story from teen vogue, I want to be fair to the author. She says anger and hatred are different. It's all right to feel angry. And I believe that's true. She says anger is not the same as hatred, although it's easy to confuse the two, especially in political climate where hatred of others comes easy and rational rage is met with mockery. Anger is a feeling. Hatred is an action. Hatred is anger applied indiscriminately, anger attached to the cruel. Rage, we reworked into an excuse to lash out at another person

because of who they are or what they are. Anger itself is no more or less than the human heart rebelling against injustice, real or imagine, and often it has a damn good reason. Yes, but I don't believe that we are a culture that has... ever benefited from anger. There's nobody, remember, Moses and Jesus, those are the two icons that are entire society, whether you like it or not, those are the ones that built the Western way of life. Now, we went wrong by saying, and Jesus wants me to torture you until you accept him. That's not Jesus. That's you. That's man

wanting power. And there's no difference between the Inquisition and what's happening with ISIS. None. That's man wanting power. And using God to disguise it. But in our culture,

Moses, Moses, remember, wants to go kill all the Israelites. It goes to God. Kill them all. Please kill them all. God says, back off. Jesus never gets there. Those are our two icons. So how can we say embrace your anger?

I don't find that in the teachings of everything that built the Western way of life. Psychology today was really, really good in what they said, that anger takes all of your reason and just chases it out. And that's where we are. We're all so angry right now, justifiably, that we're not thinking. I read an essay this week. I absolutely love this. It's on stupidity.

That's the name of it. On stupidity. Letters and papers from prison from Dietrich Bonhoeffer. On stupidity. Dietrich Bonhofer, the Gandhi of his part of the world. Listen to what he said. Now, remember, this is a guy who is in prison because of Hitler. He's trying to stand up against Hitler.

See if any of this sounds like anything we're experiencing as a society. See if it's anything you're experiencing in your own circle of family or friends. Quoting Dietrich Bonhoeffer, stupidity is more dangerous of an enemy than malice is to good. You can protest against evil. It can be exposed. And if need be, it can be prevented by the use of force. Evil always carries with it the germ of its own subversion because it leaves behind in human beings a sense of unease.

That's true. Against stupidity, we're completely defenseless. Neither protest, listen to this, neither protest nor the use of force accomplish anything here. Because reason falls on deaf ears. facts that contradict one's pre-judgment simply need not be believed. In such moments, the stupid person often becomes critical, and when facts are irrefutable, they're just pushed aside as inconsequential or incidental. In all of this, the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one,

is utterly self-satisfied and being easily irritated because becomes dangerous because they will go on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reason. It is senseless and it is dangerous. He's not saying that the Germans were evil. He's saying the Germans had negotiated themselves into a place to where in such moments, any fact that contradicted your prejudgment just wasn't believed. When the facts became irrefutable, they were pushed aside as inconsequential, incidental.

And then if you challenged them, they became angry and they went on the attack. Does any of that sound familiar? Does any of that sound like it is ringing true today? Does any of that sound like anger is a good thing? good thing to add in defense of the stupid or in defense of righteousness against the stupid. Anger will only ratchet it up, except the fact that we're all angry. But then what are we going to do about it? More on this and others later today.

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Behind our cardboard microphones today. It is fantastic to have you here. I hate to get you all ratcheted up with anger. Here's Orrin Hatch on the raising of the debt ceiling. We shouldn't even play with that. It should just be clean. Some conservatives think that they can get some programs cut. Well, that's just not going to happen. And we have to pay our bills. And anybody who doesn't want to do that doesn't deserve to be here. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Suffering leads to hospitals. Something like that.

I don't. Listening to the Glenn Beck Program. Mercury. Glenn Beck Program. I saw a story about a guy named Andrew Loomish. He was just featured on NBC News, a 46-year-old guy from Tampa, Florida, who happened to see the gravestones in a Tampa Cemetery of these heroes. and they were all falling apart. I mean, you can imagine the mildew and the mold and the stains and everything else

just from the weather in Tampa for all of those years. So he went out by himself and just started cleaning these monuments and cleaning these cemetery markers. He's now cleaned over 500 monuments. And he's a guy who's never served in the military. And what I liked about this was it wasn't just some guy going out, out and doing something that I promise you at some point they're going to shut him down because of some environmental reason or some stupid thing like that. But what I liked about him was the fact

that he understood and was connecting with history because of this. And I think there's something really cool about this. We wanted to get him on the phone. Andrew Loomish from Tampa, Florida. Welcome to the program, sir. How are you? Well, Glenn, thank you so much for having this morning. I really. appreciate the opportunity to speak to you. I'm thrilled. I saw your story a couple of days ago when it came out. And first of all, explain how you got into this and what you're doing and what you've discovered.

Okay. Well, it's kind of multifaceted. Initially, there's obvious reasons and there's some reasons that are personal. Part of it was I love photography and I photograph everything. I ended up stumbling upon a very old cemetery that was opened in 1850 in downtown Tampa, oldest cemetery in this area. And it was beautiful. So I began to photograph it.

And then I went to a second cemetery and I noticed the same thing, the pure beauty of it, but something caught my eye. And it was the incredibly poor condition of monuments of heroes that served in every conflict from the Mexican wars to the

civil war to the Spanish-American War. and up until World War II in Vietnam. And I saw how terrible they were, and immediately it kind of infuriated me. I was really upset by it. And so what I did is I began to research how to properly restore the monuments that are marble and granite and sandstone and every type of material.

And I learned how to restore the monuments properly in the same way that they are restored in our national cemeteries, including Arlington. So I began to, on my day off, go to some of the historic cemeteries and restore some monuments. And that's how it began. Okay. So, Andrew, a couple of things.

First, I'm a shame to say this. But my first thought, when I saw this, my first thought was, how come he hasn't been stopped yet? And I don't mean because you're doing something wrong. I mean, there's got to be somebody out there in the government who can find something wrong. with what you're doing. Have you gotten any pushback at all? None whatsoever. That's amazing.

I've been honored by the Department of Veterans Affairs because my story's gone viral several times. And they've kind of piggybacked a little bit because they share my story and what I do. I've been honored by Governor Rick Scott at the State Capitol. Actually, I was invited and we had my assistant and I, we had dinner at the governor's mansion after receiving a wonderful volunteer award for. from Governor Scott and the Florida cabinet. And then this week, I was actually honored by all the Hillsborough County commissioners

in the ceremony in downtown Tampa as well. So no pushback at all. So the thing that really drove me to get you on the phone was one, do you listen to my program at all or do you know who I am at all? I mean, I don't mean like, do you know who I am? I mean, have you followed it all that I'm really into history? And you said, I do know that. You said one phrase that just sounded like it was twice as loud as anything else. You said, I'm uncovering history.

Well, initially, I told you earlier, initially it became just the restorations themselves. Yeah. But it has evolved. And what I decided to do was I have a wonderful assistant who helps me with research because I'm very busy. So she helps me fill in the blanks. And what we do now is we use different resources, online genealogy resources, libraries, and we are able to go back in time. It's 2017, so we're really fortunate there that we can do the things that we do.

So we're able to look at an entire person's life. So not only will you see before what it looked like before, the terrible condition that the monuments were in before, but you'll see the after picture of the monument, but we tell their entire life story from the day they were born until their final day here on Earth. We talk about all their achievements, their accomplishments. I will say also I was somewhat torn because sometimes you uncover some things that may not be particularly flattering. But I was torn as to whether or not when we're telling these stories about these heroes, whether we should talk about it. And we all have bumpy roads.

nothing's a flat road nothing goes in a straight line so early on I decided we're going to tell their story but we're going to tell it in its entirety we're going to talk about the human nature and we talk about and we put it in perspective what was the what was the thing that made you

what did you stumble on you don't even have to tell me the name of the person but what did you stumble across you were like oh man what was it well there there is there's a catalyst all this as well I have I did not serve, however I have friends who serve. I also have a wonderful assistant, and he was 12 years in the

military, and I was his confidant in a lot of ways. And unbeknownst to me, I really don't talk about this much, but I'm beginning to open up about it a bit more. He was a great guy, super social, wonderful guy, 12 years, he was still a reservist. He worked with me. He was on my team, and one day, He just told me what he was going to do his entire weekend. And he went, he told me everything. And then I texted him on a Sunday to let him know what his schedule was for Monday. Well, a long story short, he had PTSD and he took his life. And when I do these restorations, and I had no idea.

It was a complete and utter shock to me. When I do these restorations, I think of him. So not only do I tell the stories and complete these restorations, but he is always, always by my side, because I don't want him to be forgotten either. It's very important to me. What was his name, Andrew? His name was Christopher Scala.

Tell me about the World War I veteran who died on the USS Tampa, a German submarine attack. Incredible story. 18 years old. Lewis Franklin Vaughn is his name. He was born in 1900, and at the age of 18, January of 1900, he joined, he ended up being, you know, in a Navy essentially, and he served on the USS Tampa. By 1918, the war was coming to a close, and Germany was getting desperate.

So all they had left essentially were submarine forces. and they were not going by rules of engagement, and they were submarining all ships going into England and London. They were torpedoing just supply ships that would be able to supply the United Kingdom. So the USS Tampa, what their job was at the time was to escort these supply ships to London and all over the UK to make sure that they were safe. Well, a torpedo on September 26, 1918, a German submarine torpedoed and killed everyone on board. So, Louis Franklin Vaughn died on that day. But the interesting thing and the personal thing on Mr. Vaughn or young Mr. Vaughn was that before he chose to join the military to serve his country, he had three sisters. none of them live to be beyond 14 months old.

And I can imagine the conversation he had with his parents sitting at the table in his home. And they already lost all of their children. He's the only one who survived. And then he was killed by the Germans near the end, near the close of the First World War in September of 1918. Is there anything have you thought about, do you, A, do the research on the person prior to or after or while you're, cleaning the headstone. A combination of all of the above. It all depends upon the circumstances.

So, I mean, it's a combination. You know, it depends on the circumstances. Every situation has its own set of circumstances. Occasionally, I will take students with me, high school students who love to go and I'll have them step back in the footsteps. And it's always good to know the history of the person in advance of that. So I'll have them stand in the descendants who would have stood there at the day of the funeral. And we talk about their life.

We talk about what the world was like, what the United States was like when they were alive and when they died. And what's great about it is you always get these bad rooms on millennials. The attention and the love that these high school kids from all these different backgrounds have for what they do. You know what it's like in Tampa. It's muddy. It's wet. And they don't mind. They sweat and they get out there and they have a great time.

And they learn a history lesson. So the negativity about millennials. But my experience generally, including my own son, who's about to turn 21, has been fantastic. It really has. It's been a great experience, and not just for them. It's very therapeutic for me as well. Andrew, do you have a website or what's your website? Well, we're working on it.

We're building a website right now. It's going to be the goodcemetarian.com and the goodcemetarian.org. But right now, we do most everything on social media. The Facebook page is called the Good Cemetery. It's a very interactive Facebook page. We have wonderful interaction from all over the world. But the websites will be up and running in the next month or so. We also have a nonprofit, and we help organizations all across locally for the most part now,

but we vet military organizations that do good, especially for those who came home, and they need that help. I always think of Chris in these moments. So what we do is we help support different organizations so that they can achieve the goals that they want to so that they can make the lives of those who served our country much more pleasant and much more adaptable once they get home. Andrew Loomish, a guy who was a photographer who started something that is now becoming a life passion. and I think, Andrew is, is, I just have this feeling that what you're doing is way beyond anything that you might even understand at this point. You've started something really, really amazing. Thank you so much, Andrew.

Appreciate it. Thank you for having me this morning, Glenn. I do appreciate it. And thank you again. And thank you to all the men and women who serve our country. You are not forgotten. You are so important. to the fabric of our society today.

And we will continue doing what we do to support you. God bless you, Andrew. Thank you very much. I hope to actually shake your hand sometime. That's great. Andrew Loomish. Fantastic. Fantastic.

Fantastic. Just doing anything outside in Tampa this time of year is a service to your country? Oh, yeah. Just walking from your front door to your car. I actually, I'm pretty brave. and pretty heroic. I went to work once this week. I left my house, got into the car.

I didn't actually, I made it to the parking lot, and then I thought I have to get out of the car and walk into the, and we don't have air-conditioned parking, and I thought, no, I'm, no. So I was at work technically, kind of. And here's your purple heart. Yeah, I mean, it's bad. What an amazing story.

I want to tell you about William. William lives here in Texas. He wanted to sell a home that he inherited in California. Now, imagine the stress of trying to sell a house out of state. William lives here in Texas. He happens to be a listener of my program here in Texas, and he decided he wanted to go to real estate agents, I trust.com. And his agent, Brad, picked up the house and said,

we'll take care of it. Within a week, Brad had a bidding war going on. William ended up with $30,000 more than the asking price and the whole process was completed within a month. I am so proud of everybody that works with Mercury real estate. This was something that only my brother and I, Robert, believed, and this was a side project that we were like, we both felt passionately about. He really felt passionately about because my experience was past. His was currently going on trying to sell his home out of state and just running into so many, hassles. And we were talking about it. He's like, Glenn, I want to start a company. I want to,

you know, if you'd help me, blah, blah. I said, absolutely. So we talked about it. And I said, if I'm going to help you, you've got to vet everybody personally. I just want to make sure that it's, it's just really, really right. Well, they went to work and found, I think it's a thousand real estate agents across the country who are, I mean, when, when the stories that I hear make William's story no big deal. The story of a woman who was having a hard time selling her house and it was because it didn't have curb appeal. So the real estate agent she hired, out of her own time,

she didn't have to do this. She came over on the weekend and helped this woman paint her house on the outside, plant new flowers, et cetera, et cetera, and these people actually commit to you. Now, of course, everybody's story is different, but we have had now, they just made their 2000th closing on a house at Mercury real estate. And the stories that come in are remarkable. You want to sell your house on time for the most money and make it a pleasant experience?

Go to real estate agents.itrust.com. Real estate agents I trust.com. Glenn Beck Program. AAA 727 back. Mercury. The Glenn Beck Program. Welcome to the program. So the boys went to see Dunkirk.

You have your review quickly of Dunkirk? It was good. I didn't like it as much as you did. It wasn't saving Private Ryan to me. But it was certainly well done. I thought it was beautiful. I thought it was great. It was good.

It was really good, but it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen. Yeah. I don't think I said that either. You said it was one of the greatest war movies, I think? Yeah. And I didn't think it was near that for me. It was very well done. For me, 13 hours was way better.

I enjoyed that a lot more. And American Sniper. Yeah. I mean, lone survivor. Those are hard because those were all friends of ours. Go ahead, Jim. Say you like a movie better than Marcus LaTrell. Go ahead.

Say it. Just do it. I want him to hear it. I don't. I don't. Marcus, I don't. I swear to you. It's Stu.

Get Stu. Not me. This is the Glenn Beck program. from Mercury. The Blaze Radio Network On Demand. Hello, America. So I'm thinking,

well, we've talked to Bill O'Reilly last week, so we've talked to him about Reince and Scaramucci and Kelly, holy cow. No, that's all happened in the last five days. It seems like the news cycle, the news cycle, anything with this much news, it would have taken us two months to be able to gather up this much news in one administration and in the world. It's only been a few days. We have a ton to cover with Bill O'Reilly. We begin there right now. And enlightenment, this is the Glenn Beck program. So let's begin with the drama in the West Wing that we have not covered with Bill O'Reilly.

He has been covering it on Bill O'Reilly.com, where you can hear his no-spin news every day. And you get it without all of the bull crap. Bill O'Reilly gives you the news and his perspective on it at Bill O'Reilly.com every day. We urge you to sign up. Bill, how's your week, Ben? Beck, it's been exciting, but not nearly as exciting as yours. Well, I know. I'm a younger, more, you know, just a stronger, better man, really.

Are you really younger than I have? I mean, it's, you look so. All right, Bill, you don't need to get cruel. Okay, so let's start here. We haven't even addressed, you know, Wright's leaving the White House and its ramifications, plus Garmucci and then all the way to Kelly. So let's start with Wrights, your thoughts. Well, this is a very gutsy move by Trump,

and that's what everybody's overlooked, because Donald Trump has now put himself in a position where if General Kelly were to walk out of the White House, two months from now, six months from now, two hours from now. Trump's done. He's finished. So he's given his chief of staff, General Kelly, an enormous amount of power over him. And nobody has pointed that out.

Well, he did, but you don't listen to my show, so. No, I do. But I, you must be. I must have lost that. Yeah, you're usually sleeping, and then you get up, you have your early bird dinner, and then you go right back to bed. But anyway, so, so. So this is pretty stunning coming from you.

You and I have pointed out. Yeah. Me in a much more loud and vociferous way. Right. That the president, for some reason, has done a 180 and now put someone in a position of power that he himself really has no power over. Very fascinating. And the other fascinating part is that somebody had to tell Trump to do this. this. He didn't come up with it by

himself. And I have not figured out who that person is. Well, if you would have if you would have, if you would have listened to my program and you would have seen the shock the chalkboard, I could have outlined the whole thing for you. Let me in a nutshell, say this.

My view on this bill, and I'd love to hear where you think this goes off the rails, unless it's right at the beginning. My view on this is Trump knows that he has problems. Trump had no love for, or, you know, Prebis or either GOP or any of it, knows that that's just all a failure.

And, you know, in his opinion, they're all making him look bad. And he's brought them in. So there's one kind of people besides his family that he really truly deeply respects. And those are the people that have a military background. I really believe he really respects military men. He respects the discipline.

And also there's something about the way, you know, they pet the cat because he is the commander in chief, they are yes, sir, no sir, and it's all honor behind that. And I think that plays to the thing that he wants from everybody in a way.

So when he looks at Kelly, because I took it as how would Kelly or why would Kelly take this job? He has no skill on Capitol Hill. He doesn't, I don't think, have any time to play that kind of a game. I think he looks

at this as the White House is in trouble. This president is in trouble, meaning POTUS, not Donald Trump, not the party, but the president, my commander in chief, is in trouble. I can bring order to this, but I believe that Kelly went to him and said, Mr. President, I have no desire to do this, but I will, but you have to give me the control of the White House.

And I think Donald Trump was so sick of all of this, that he and respects Kelly that he said, go for it. But he has trapped himself now. You're right. One, I love to catch the cat, low fell, 007 reference. Yes. That's the most important thing of everything you've said. Yes, thank you.

Number two, okay, Kelly himself doesn't really have to have any legislative duties at all because that's not necessary. No, but I don't mean it that way. I mean, as a way to be able to go in and massage the party and, you know, kind of work all that. He doesn't really have to do that. He doesn't have to do that. And I don't think that's in the cards at all for Trump ever because he's already blasted in a party over this Russian thing. Yes.

But look, the reason that Kelly was put in there is to find the leak. That's why it was put in there. Because you've got to remember that Trump got burned on Flynn bad. So, yes, he's enamored with the military. He understands that success. arena can translate to success in civilians but Flynn is his has been Trump's worst nightman yeah and continues to be so what I think happened and this is speculation I don't like to do this somebody very close to Trump pulled them aside said look you're on

the ropes now and if you don't make a bold move going down Scaramucci isn't working out Prince Prince Previs is working out they think the previous is a leaker by the way Yeah. They being the Trump insider. They think that the previous guy that's putting everything out. I mean, whoever put that transcripts out on the Australian and Mexican interviews, that's treason. That is absolute treason.

And I'm not saying that from any ideological point of view. You're basically undermining the ability of the President of the United States to have a private conversation with foreign leaders. I mean, that is just disgraceful. I will tell you this, that it's not treason because treason has a very high end. and specific legal standards. But in your, right, but in your, but I echo your, your spirit of that, that anyone who is, I don't care who the president is, you are putting at jeopardy, our president's credibility,

and you're exposing private conversations of another head of state. Really reckless, dangerous, and you should go to jail for it. Yeah. So Kelly was putting in there to stop all this, to hand-tick a staff that he believes in be loyal to Trump, and that's what he'll do. But the bigger picture is that this is Donald Trump's last chance. And I think Trump knows that. I think he knows that when you look at opinion polls, and a lot of people don't believe those polls, because Trump won the election and all the polls say that he was not going to. But when you get a Rasmussen poll, a daily tracking poll,

very friendly to the president that's got him down at 38% job approval, you've got to take notice of it. And it's logical because people are just tired. They're exhausted from every single day having chaos. So that's what's going on. Bill, why do you think that this is his last chance and that he knows that? Because you can't govern if your party bolts. And the Republican Party has pretty much bolted on Donald Trump right now. You don't see a lot of Republicans.

went out of their way to make his life easier. And the best example, and we talked about this last Friday in one of the classic Beck O'Reilly conversation here, okay, was John McCain. As soon as McCain walked into the chamber and allowed Obamacare to continue, I knew that was personal. There was no doubt in my mind that if George W. Bush had been president, there's no way McCain would have done that because there was no logic behind it. that that bill if mccain had voted for uh the repeal of it would then gone back to the house then back to the

senate you had 15 chances to make the bill better to put things in and all mccain did was say you know what i hate trump so much i'm going to allow obamacare to continue even though the people in my state arizona i get a hammered so when you lose the ability to rally your own party you throw as a president I need me Carter. So let me ask you this because I think there's something else to this and maybe you dismiss it. You know, I have the same kind of feeling that with General Kelly that I have to a much less degree with Rex Tillerson. Rex Tillerson seems to the average person to be a guy who can get things done. He's not a dummy.

He seems reasonable. He seems like an adult. the same thing with General Kelly. With Kelly, he is legend. I mean, you just don't, you're not going to blame Kelly on the way out for things. But I think Tillerson is in this same kind of category that you're now, you know, you had clowns around you, Wright's Prebus, he's a clown. So you have clowns there.

You get those guys out and that's fine. But when you start to get to the level of a Kelly or a Rex Tillerson, if they start to come out and say, you know what, which Tillerson is behind the scenes apparently, saying, this is ridiculous. This is, this is no way to run a country. And I'm questioning whether I want to be a part of it. If that kind of stuff starts to come out from people like Kelly and Tillerson,

I think that's when he's really in trouble. It's not just the GOP. He can't afford. Tillerson could go and Trump could survive. Yes, I agree. But not Kelly. Not Kelly. You know, Kelly goes, and then the whole Republican Party is going to revolt against the president.

So the president's going to be sitting in the White House, and he's going to have two parties against him. Nobody for him. And it's over. He'll just sit there as a lame duck. But Tillerson has an interesting study. I don't know much about him. Heather Nauer, he's a spokesperson, he is a spokesperson at the State Department. But I think with Tillis's frustration is that he goes in to negotiate deals with farm.

powers and the foreign powers basically don't cooperate because they think Trump is a week leader who's not going to be there. And I think that Tillerson doesn't have the power that he feels he needs to make things happen. I think that's his frustration. Well, I don't know much about him. It looks like Nala Ligosi and me, and that's all I, but I'm glad you don't play on the surface. The, but the other frustration he does have is he has not filled the many positions in the State Department. And according to inside sources with him, it is because he can't find

people that will kiss the ring appropriately enough for Donald Trump to approve and the White House has been blocking some of his appointments. You have secret sources, Beck? Is that, no, no, I've read that from several sources and I said that is apparently

what's going on. Anonymous sources, though? I don't know how do you name people? Are you really, I mean, you're really going here, Bill? We're really going here. I mean, I'm on the, I hate this anonymous sources. Yeah, I do too. Right. But, you know, if you're Secretary of State, you know, you don't need a big squad.

And don't tell me Tillerson can't get people from the private industry to come over and help them out. I mean, the guy's a foreign ex-on. He knows millions of people he could bring in. So I'm not so sure that's actually. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, let me rephrase this. I got the impression that it was the White House. I shouldn't say that it was Trump himself. It might have been rights or whatever.

That there was this struggle internally that could never agree on, okay, yes, where usually somebody like that can just appoint who they need and move on, that it was all going through the White House and getting muddied up. Maybe that might be true. I just don't know. Let me switch topics. I'm going to give you the question. come back for your answer. But the

I want to stay on Rex for one more question and that is did you see the statement that he made about North Korea this week? And if you believe him on North Korea and you take into consideration what

you just said about people think that Trump is a lame duck president and so Tillerson doesn't have the the cloud or credibility to do what he has to do, what does that mean in regard to that statement. We'll get Bill O'Reilly's comment on that when we come back and so much more to cover with him. By the way, you can hear them every day at bill o'Reilly.com. That's

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She's by herself. She draws her weapon to protect herself. And the community turns on her and so she's the problem. That's the kind of world we're living in. You, the protector. That's why you have a gun. You're protecting yourself. You're protecting your family.

I don't care. You take my wallet. don't take my life, don't take my, don't take my family, don't, don't even begin to come close to that, because I'll shoot you dead. She, that's what she had. That's why she has that gun. She wants to protect herself and others. Well, who's protecting the protector?

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So your life isn't destroyed. Go to protect and defend.com. Learn all about it. Protect and defend.com. This is the Glenn Beck program. Back with Bill O'Reilly from Bill O'Reilly.com. This week, Rex Tillerson came out, made a statement on and to North Korea that said, we're willing to sit down at the negotiating table.

We need to have face-to-face talks. but what we are in right now is an intolerable situation. It cannot stand. It will not stand. And if you don't come to the table, military options, I don't want to, I mean, he led us to believe that military options will have to be used. Bill, what did you think about that statement first and second, tie that to what you said earlier about Rex Tillerson, sitting down on the table with world leaders and them kind of laughing at him because they don't think Trump's going to last.

Well, first of all, I don't think saber rattling is by insane people. You know, I mean, they were rational people. Yes. So that's number one. That was a mistake by old Rex. Number two, Trump is absolutely capable of dropping whatever less to drop goes in there. these guys a lesson. He's not Barack Obama.

Right. So I think that's clear to everybody in the world. You don't see it alone again. If the situation isn't incalorable that the North Koreans are making weapons, you're going to have to send a couple of carriers to park right on it. They're already there. Number one. Yeah.

But they're not there in the sense that stuff. A B-1B bomber, you know. was cruising the skies in a very threatening way last weekend after the missile launch. I mean, you know... I think it was more provocative, setting a message. Yes. We can do this. We can do whatever we want to you at any time.

Yes. But I think you've got to, you know, the next time that they do any kind of a launch, then... Okay. So, Bill, I'm going to take a break, and I want to come back. I want to ask you about the immigration reform and what's happened, the Russia sanctions, and what happened with that? But I also want to talk about something that I'm actually glad. I mean, the president came out and said, we're losing the war in Afghanistan.

And I'm sitting around with a, you know, a group of monkeys here in general hats. What are we doing? And I actually am glad the president has finally said. What are we doing after 17 years in Afghanistan? I'd like to get your thoughts on that. When we come back, Bill O'Reilly from Bill O'Reilly.com. The Glenn Beck Program. All right, so let's go back to Bill O'Reilly from Bill O'Reilly.com.

Let's start here with the president in a meeting with generals, apparently, a very uncomfortable meeting in the situation room coming out and saying, we're losing the war in Afghanistan, and I'd rather talk to the guys on the ground than you clowns, saying this to the general. I cheer. I am so happy to hear that. I don't know who is in the room. I don't know if they're all clowns or not,

but it is about time somebody says, what the hell are we even doing besides getting into the middle of, you know, a prohibition situation in the poppy fields in Afghanistan? What the hell are we even doing there anymore? Finish it and come home, Bill. All right, but they can't finish it because they, they being NATO forces, primarily backed by Americans,

are incapable of imposing an orderly society on a primitive society. When I went to Afghanistan back, I was flying in from London on a private plane, and the pilot said to me, we're going to land at 10 minutes. And I was in the cockpit with the pilot and co-pilot. And I looked down, it was black. And I said, what do you mean we're going to land?

Where are we going to land? He goes, we're going to land in Kabul in Afghanistan. at Bargron. And it was one light in the whole country. I said, well, where are the lights? It goes, they don't have electricity. They don't have electricity. So wait a minute. Hang on, Bill. We are not. See, this is the fundamental problem. We think we're there to nation build or save or leave them. We're not. That's not what that's what the military is supposed to do. Right. So Matt, Mattis knows that, the Defense Secretary. And, you know, life expectancy in Afghanistan is about 40. 4.0.

Okay? About 65% of the population can't read. So you're not going to get a nation that's going to function in a way that's going to protect its citizenry. So you have a decision to make, you being NATO in the United States. Do you pull out of there and let the Taliban come back in and run, which is exactly what would happen? And then ISIS would form an alliance with the Taliban. And so you'd have ISIS camps and ISIS presence, just like you had al-Qaeda, before 9-11. Do you allow that? Or do you basically do a police action from Bagaram and keep 10,000 troops there, NATO troops there, to allow the government to function and to keep the Taliban from taking over? So that's your decision. There's nothing else. And if President Trump thinks that we're going to win militarily, you're not going to win. Yes. All right? It just not going to happened because Pakistan allows the Taliban to base on Pakistani soil. And you can't go in there to get them. So that's what it is. And so everybody should know what it is. Russia sanctions. Your thoughts? Yes. You have to have them. I think Trump makes a huge mistake in disparaging

the Republicans for voting for it. Putin has to be taught a lesson, even if it's a symbolic lesson, which it isn't. These sanctions are going to hurt the Russian economy, which is already in bad shape. And Trump says, well, look, this impedes my ability to negotiate with Putin. Look, Putin, he decided to mess around in our election, and he's got to pay a price. Here's the price. Trump should shut up, all right? He signed the bill because he knew he would be embarrassed if he didn't. But there's no win for him for the president to keep whining about it. No. And, you know, when we're talking about the election, this is the craziest thing. My wife said yesterday

somebody was talking about the election and Hillary Clinton and everything else. And it wasn't Trump. It was just somebody. It was on radio or something. And she just never comments on political stuff. She just

burst out. Would these people shut up? The election is over. He won. Move on. Trump can't seem to allow any thought in his head that the Russians were trying to disrupt the election, not necessarily in his favor, nor is there any evidence that that even happened, but they were influencing our election. They tried to. He needs to separate himself from,

you know, what Russia is saying out loud they want to do to the West all around the world. and we have evidence that they did try to do it here. They just failed. Well, I think Kelly and Mattis are going to tamp them down. Very interesting. This is a real indicator that, again, only Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly pointed out their respective listeners and viewers. After the announcement of the grand jury appointment by Mueller, the special prosecutor or investigator, okay, the left did what the left always done is they want to ruin Trump's. presidency and so, oh, he's guilty.

No presumption of innocence. No and that. I mean, if, if Mueller didn't put the grand jury up there, he would have been a sap, SAP SAP, SAP, word of the day. You have to do that because you have to subpoena documents. You have to get stuff if you're going to do an honest investigation, and that's what a grand jury does. Okay. So we all know that this wasn't a big news story. It doesn't say anybody's guilty of anything.

It doesn't give special prosecutor more power to get the, if it would have tweeted, This was horrible. This was terrible. What's he doing? I'm going to go to his house and put gum in his keyhole. That shows you to Kelly. Influence. It happens.

Don't say anything. Don't tweet anything. And if you do run it by me, you can vent on certain things, but other things, legal things, you cannot vent on. That's a big story. That's exactly what the discipline that Kelly is bringing. Remember, he's only been in a new week. And Kelly has, like, done amazing things.

in one week. So what do you think about Donald Trump saying, I have nothing to do with it, I have nothing to do with it, and then finding out, which I think is a Wright's previous leak year, that, oh, yeah, when he was on Air Force One, he wrote that, Donald Trayton.

Oh, so wide, come on. I just, hang on just sick. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. All right, all right. Hang on. Listen, it again is not the, it never is. It's never the crime. It's the cover-up. And to-

This is bullshit. Whoa. No, okay. Somebody. Sarah? Yeah. You feel passionately there, Bill? Garbage.

Listen, Junior had a meeting Russian people, okay? All right, so we all know that. The father finds out about the meeting, and he's coaching the kid as any father would do. Right. So why wouldn't you say, so this is the, the problem. This is, hang on, my question is not to guilt or innocence or anything else is,

when will Donald Trump understand that you just tell the truth and it is fine? Several advisors telling them that. Right, but you continue to say one thing and then it comes out the other and it's just not going to work out well in the end. It's doing what MSNBC does, okay? There was a discussion about adoption in that meeting. that did come up from the lawyer herself. So Trump, being Trump, and any politician, would have seized on that and said, hey, tell them that you were talking about adoptions. There wasn't any dirt dished about Hillary Clinton.

Again, no dirt. So Trump takes those two facts, at least that's the testimony by the Russians, and says, emphasize that. That's not a crime. It's not a cover up. But Bill, but let's say that... Let's say that... Let's say that... Jumping up and down about this?

Let's say that approach is completely fine. Because I think you're right. It was, I think, primarily about adoption. It was. At least as far as we know so far. I don't even think it was... I don't think it was... I don't think anything actually happened in this meeting at all.

I personally think this was Putin setting Donald Trump and his family up because they snapped at the bait. I've got something. So they snapped at that. I don't know if it was Putin, but it was whoever was somebody in Russia setting him up. But my point here is, Bill, if that approach is correct, right? And you're right. It was primarily about adoption.

You have two things on the table, options that are fine. One, to say and give a little bit of the truth and say it was about adoption and hope no one finds out about the rest of it. Or two, you've got the email. You know it's going to come out eventually. You might as well just get out in front of it and be honest. They always choose the lower. disclosure. They knew this is going to come out. They've got an investigation going on. This email's coming out. He still doesn't think that way. He never thinks that way. I told you, we talked

about this last. Yeah. The rich guy syndrome is all going to work out. We say what we want. But let's, I think all Americans who want the truth, and that's maybe half the country, the other half of just don't want the truth. They just want to go careen around. And I am telling you that this is so low level with this meeting. And that's why I want Mueller to subpoena these people. I want them to come in. It's just, it's nothing. And the facts of the matter are that if Trump alluded to himself or one of his big guys,

you're absolutely right, Stu. You're absolutely right. It's going to come out. Okay. It's going to come out. So let's go. cut him off now. He's making a great point. But I just have like a minute left, and I do want to hit immigration reform.

Because this week at billowryly.com, in one of your no-spin cast, you said, Trump's immigration plan going to crash and burn. So what does that mean? That means that the Senate and the House will never immigration pattern from a million green cards a year to anything less. The votes are not there. It's not going to happen. So but what does that? What does that mean for the future? Does that hurt him getting the wall, getting other things?

What does that mean? He's still the anti-chaotic immigration warrior. He's going to build a little bit of the wall. Sessions is running around, deporting MS 30th way down. Trump wins on this issue. Okay, so how does the GOP come out of this? I can't imagine the GOP has anything that they can, win on in 18 or 20.

Well, he's got to win on tax cuts. And next week, let's talk about that. Yeah, no, not Trump. The GOP. The GOP is over. Congress and Congress people are going to tell their constituents, this is what I want. So in the liberal Republican bastions like Maine, Collins would go, oh, I want, you know, Statue of Liberty, give us your poor, that's me.

And then more conservative precincts in Texas, the Republicans will say, look, I, I, I, I, I wanted to cut it back. I wanted to cut it down. So it was an individual district on the same. Bill O'Reilly from Bill O'Reilly.com. We don't even have time to cover this, but I would imagine that you were as upset as I was with the lies about the statue of liberty and the spin of all that. I would just make my head explode.

Anybody who was into history, that just was crazy. Bill, what do you have coming up next week? on Bill O'Reilly. We want to tell everybody that we have this kid's book, The Day of the World War One Nuclear, and we talked about North Korea earlier, and it's tied right in, and adults can read it to us.

It's just a terrific book that's out. Legend of a lot of Civil War is out, old-school life in the same lane, which Glenn Beck is perfect. It's just about what Beck says every day. They're all out. And then next week we're going to do, on Wednesday,

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Because that will watch it. How much of you is CGI? Is CGI? What does that mean? Oh, dear God. Oh, that means all of it is, that means all of it is really him. There's no computer-generated images at all. There's nothing.

I have a Mohawk haircut. Okay. Look. That should look. A nose ring. That should look really interesting with the male pattern baldness at the same time.

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Program 888727 Beck. So glad that you are here. A couple of things. Found out that Apple owns $52.6 billion in U.S. Treasuries. That is more than most foreign countries own in U.S. treasuries. You know, the idea is, you know, you buy our treasuries. That's how you're buying our loans. That's how you finance us.

You're buying our treasuries. You're buying our bonds. Apple owns $52 billion in treasuries. When a company owns 56 billion in treasuries, and they come to the doorstep and say, hey, we really need you to do X, Y, and Z for the company. You're probably going to do X, Y, and Z. Lianz for the company. Otherwise, they could dump the $56 billion in treasuries. And what happens then?

That almost be blackmail. I don't think that would happen. That's, this is an awesome question, because we all, we all know that we have changed, you know, they can, China can send us poison dog food and lead-filled toys, and we don't say anything because they own so many of our treasuries. With $56 billion in treasuries more than most countries have. What does that afford Apple? Fascinating. More in a second. The Blaze Radio Network

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Okay, so last time this happened was in 2007, right before all hell broke loose. Americans now are showing the largest decline in personal savings. Looks like we are now only saving, I think, three. We are now starting to spend our savings faster, and nobody's got anything left in the bank anymore. The last time this happened that was even close to this kind of decline in savings was right before the crash of 08. Does it mean anything? I don't know. We should have mentioned today, by the way, a very good unemployment report.

Good. What was it? We're down to 4.3%, which is the lowest that's been in 16 years. I think we also touched it in May, but it's the tide for the lowest that we had. Are we looking at those who have left the job? Yeah, I mean, it was actually pretty good on that front as well. 209,000 jobs created, which was above expectations. And it was, I did look at, I saw the report that you were talking about with the, you know, the people coming out of the workforce.

And those numbers look good too. I don't have them in front of me right now. Excellent. You know, again, it's one month, but a good report. I'll take a month. As long as we're not playing numbers, as long as we're not playing games that we wouldn't accept in the Obama administration. Don't look at 4.8.

Well, how many jobs were created? How many people are leaving the workforce? What is the number of percentage on welfare or on government handouts? But I believe those numbers are going down pretty dramatically. Are they not? I don't have that in front of me either. I should look that up. Maybe we can do something on that on Monday.

What is the story on the Secret Service that has to move their command center outside of Trump Tower into a trailer? It's a lease agreement issue, correct? But don't they know the guy who runs the tower? I don't know. Do you know who it is? I don't know if I could look it up. I'm not sure. What's the name of the building?

I'm not sure, but I think his name is on it. The Trump Tower, right? So Secret Service had the floor directly under Donald Trump. and for some reason there is a lease problem and so now the Secret Service is watching the president outside in a trailer

a trailer the only the neighbors must be so happy to now have you've turned it into a trailer park we've taken Fifth Avenue and put trailers now in the street not to mention you're talking about the

security and safety of the president of the president of his family I don't know what is happening there, but... Pretty weird. Work it out. And don't work it out to anybody's enrichment. Remember, we're talking about the security of the president, and we're also talking about the taxpayer's burden.

Can we cut the Secret Service to slack? And, you know, I don't... I'm not saying that they should be welcome to the, you know, whole floor beneath him, you know, at a... Maybe that's what they're trying to do, though, right? Because she's not even there. As a capitalist, no, as a capitalist, I don't believe that the government should be able to come in and just say,

we're taking this over. No, I mean, they should pay for it. Yes, I mean, we pay for a lot more stuff than the security. I agree with that. He's not really been there, though. That's what I'm saying. Since she moved out, maybe that's what he's trying to do. There's no need for them to have the whole floor.

Yeah, right. They say after the Trump Tower said, after much consideration, it was mutually determined that it would be more cost-effective and logistically practical for the Secret Service to lease space elsewhere. Trump has not visited Trump Tower since his inauguration. It costs $140,000 a month for the White House military office,

which does have a location in Trump Tower. Right. So if it's, if it is just truly because he's not going to go up there and we don't have to worry about that and we got people in it, that's great. Let's save money. But let's make sure that the economics are fair to both sides. Not just the capitalist, but also to the

taxpayer as well. It's a weird situation, considering the guy owns the building, so I can understand it being a little strange. However, I mean, does anybody care? I mean, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, I do, George Bush. I care then. Well, what I'm saying, I didn't even finish. How would you know if you cared about the thing I'm talking about? I haven't finished it.

Because they've all spent so much money and we all have to keep them all safe, yada, yada, yada. I mean, I think the issue here is we need them to be safe and cost isn't a consideration when protecting their president's life. No matter if it's Democrat, Republican, I don't care. Obviously, if it's a complete waste of money and none of the people in the military of the Secret Service think it's valuable, then you change that. But it's not a consideration for me. Okay, so the woman who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself via text has now been sentenced to 15 months in jail. Now, this is the girl whose boyfriend had been saying, hey, you know, I want to kill myself. I want to kill myself.

and then she started to encourage him and in fact he stopped in the middle of the act and texted her and she said what are you doing? Get back into the car I'll stay with you on text. Get back in the car. I mean she was an accomplice to his suicide

and you know where's the line there? Should she have gone to jail? I think she should have. It's a really hard line though because yeah you know he did it she didn't right wait but wait there's a difference between

you know as I told this story before on the air my mother committed suicide my aunt for a while felt burdened because we didn't know this as kids but my grandparents and my aunt had been trying to counsel trying to get her to see doctors

everything else and in a moment of frustration the Sunday before my mother killed herself she said, you know, Joanne, I just think I'm going to, I think I'm just going to kill myself. I just can't live this way anymore. And my aunt, you know, just not thinking and being so pissed about, you know, well, I've given you every option. We've tried to help and you won't do anything. Said, you know what, Mary, just do it.

Now, she didn't mean that. There's a difference between that and what this girl did. What this girl did was, wait, you stopped? back into the, you know, get back into the truck. That's, that's inhuman. It is inhuman. Whether she should be convicted of, you know, causing the murder, I think, is another story. I mean, you know, these is, we do have people who go to jail, though, for not doing it. I mean, Charles Manson, right? I mean, you know, there is a level where that does apply. It's, it's a weird one here. It's a tough line. Because, I mean, you know, look, you got to take responsibility for

your own actions. I mean, if people encourage you to do things, you know, and you do them, that's really your fault, right? I mean, that is, you know. But it's not, he didn't. She just didn't say, go do it. She said, get back in the truck. You're strong enough to finish yourself off. I mean, here's somebody in a very,

taking a physical action still, though. That's still not. And if I remember right, and by the way, she's free pending appeal in Massachusetts, so she was sentenced, but there's a stay with that. If I remember right, they didn't even have the tax. messages, right?

This was this was based on her texting and talking with her friend after the fact. So they didn't actually have the text messages that she, you know, that they claim happened. It was just her talking to one of her friends saying that that's what happened. This is one of her numerous text messages. You always say you're going to do it, but you never do. get back into the truck I mean

you know we had a libertarian on Pat and Stu a few weeks back about this who wrote an op-in in the New York Times he writes Mr. Carter's conduct was morally reprehensible

just like my pronunciation of reprehensible but at least until today's ruling it was clearly legal while some states criminalized the act of convincing people to commit suicide Massachusetts has no such law Moreover, speech that is reckless, hateful, and ill-willed nevertheless enjoys First Amendment protections.

While the Supreme Court has carved out narrowly tailored exceptions for literal threats of violence and incitement to lawless action, telling someone they should kill themselves is not the same to holding a gun to their head and pulling the trigger, nor is it akin to threatening to kill the president, which is specifically prohibited by law, and in any case, only considered a felony if done knowingly and willfully. So I'm not saying that she murdered him, you know, but is there no, Is there no crime here at all? Really? I mean, this is the anti-good Samaritan.

Which is morally reprehensible. But none of those people who walked by him were charged with anything. No, no. No, she didn't walk by. She didn't walk by. I know. This is like she stood around and said, hey, you, come here. Come here.

Throw rocks at that guy. I mean, that's what she was doing. She's the anti-good Samaritan. Right, like that's inciting a crime. Right, but what she did was stand, let's say the Good Samaritan, you know, was suicidal. You know, the guy on the other side of the road, the Good Samaritan went over and helped. She went over and said, do it. Do it.

Do it. Jump, jump, jump, right. I mean, that's craziness. Again, I think there's a disgust element of this. It's such a disgusting. act, it winds up overwhelming what is legal and is not legal. We have a system that's not

Yeah, right. And that's a system. Right, they wanted 20 years. They got seven years. So then why do we have a problem with the guy in Russia with, what is it called the Blue Whale or the Big Whale? Yeah. The guy who apparently has been talking people in, and we don't even know if it's true. He's in jail, but it's a Russian

story. That was talking people into committing suicide by just saying, hey, I'll bet you that in 30 days I can get you to kill yourself. And people are killing themselves. Now, why is that? So should he not go to jail? Should I be allowed?

Should somebody be allowed to go on and say, hey, I got this new game. It's a suicide game. You know, I'm not going to do it, but I'm going to convince you to do it. Giving them people the choice. I don't know. It's their responsibility, right? Right. I think there's two parts of that.

is the blue whale game was targeting minors. So I think there are different lines there. But in addition to that, it's not that she shouldn't have been charged with something. First of all, the law needs to be on the book books if you're going to charge them with it. So what they did is because they don't have the law about convincing her, convincing other people to commit suicide as a crime, they just charged her with manslaughter, which I don't know if that's the appropriate crime. Should she be charged with something? I think you can definitely make that argument.

So let me ask you this. If someone was targeting our veterans, who had PTSD, and was targeting them and saying, do it, do it, kill yourself. You know, all these people in your life saying it's worth and you can get by and all the, they're all lying to you. Do it. You keep saying, you want to kill. I thought you were a hero.

I thought you were a big man. You can't even kill yourself. If we had evidence that somebody was doing that to our heroes, to our military, would we think that that person should go to jail? But again, you're upping the moral disgust element, which is legitimate. Right. And it is a morally disgusting act,

and you've escalated it even beyond this case. But I haven't. The only reason why I picked those military guys is because there's a group of people, no, because there's a people who we know are suicidal, and they are weak. It's not because they're military, but it's because these guys,

we know they are on the edge. that's the part I can't get is the good Samaritan. When you see somebody down, you don't go and kick them in the face. Again, I'm only making a legal argument here. I'm not justifying these actions. And the issue is, this is like one

of those things. Well, we really want it to be true, and we didn't ever actually pass the law against it, but let's find something else. No, if there is no crime on the book that clearly fits it. And do you think manslaughter fits this? I mean, I don't know.

manslaughter. Right. I mean, I can look up a legal definition. Yeah, that's what that's what I'm talking about. I mean, if, you know, I'd have to see the legal definition. If there's nothing that legally fits that, then I guess not. But you should put one on the books because we're becoming this

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So they charged this woman in, is it California? Massachusetts. Massachusetts that said, you know, to her boyfriend, hey, kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself for a long time. He had been threatening to do it. When he finally does it, he gets out of the truck at the last minute, texts her. She apparently begins to text back, what? You can't finish this. You always say you want to do it.

You're strong enough to do it. get back in the truck and convinces him to get back in the truck and kill himself. 15 months in jail is what she is coming down to. But they charged her with, and this is, I heard manslaughter, and I asked Stu for the definition, but she wasn't charged with manslaughter. She was charged with involuntary, involuntary manslaughter, which means she didn't mean for him to die. Which takes away the entire case.

Yeah, because that's the point of this. she obviously wanted him to die. So if you're saying she didn't mean it, then she really didn't commit a crime. Absolutely. Then it's a joke crime. Right. That's because, I mean, involuntary manslaughter refers to an unintentional killing. So again, that doesn't strike that. If you think she committed a crime, you have to believe she wanted him to die and it was intentional. So you can't give her involuntary.

Maybe they tried to make the case that, no, she was trying to teach him a lesson. She was trying to, you know, I can't make this work, but, you know, maybe she was just trying to say, do it like my aunt did that one time, and she didn't mean that. But I don't know how you make that case with the long record of her, you know, encouraging him. Yeah, and involuntary manslaughter really doesn't apply, killing of another person that is intentional but has a mitigating factor to it. Heat of passion caused by reasonable provocation? No. No. Heat of passion caused by sudden combat?

No. Excessive force used in self-defense or in the defense of another. No. I mean, so, I mean, involuntary manslaughter is usually applied as a car crash, right? Like, you kill someone or you screw up at work on a carnival ride and the ride falls apart and people die. Like, those are usually involuntary manslaughter type of situations. Let me switch subjects here quickly. Facebook just put two AIs together to solve some problems

and they stopped this when the language started to say things like this I can, can, I, I, I, I, everything else. To which the other AI, it's Bob and Alice, Bob said, I can, can, I, I, I everything else. Alice responds, balls have zero to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, too. and they were having conversations like this. And they realized these two computers, these two AIs, have just made up an entirely new language. They knew what they were saying to each other, but we don't know what they're saying to each other.

Should we stop this or not? Cancer is yes. Yes, yes. That's an easy one. Back in a minute. This is the Glenn Beck program. Mercury. If you were a long-time listener of this program,

you know that I have told you many times of the past. Insanity runs in my family like a pack of wild elephants. And I think this next story will prove that. I'm going to introduce you to somebody. He is my nephew. He was in the military and did his service. and came back like, you know, a lot of our vets do. Coming back, had some issues, had to deal with them.

And I finally see my nephew again, the man that, you know, or the boy that left before the military and now the man that he has become after the military. But it's been a hard journey. And so we're sitting at the Easter table, and he's down with his family, and about, I don't know, halfway through dinner, he said,

So uncle Glenn, I'll tell you something. I said, okay. He said, I want to get into a rowboat and cross the Atlantic. And I said, oh, dear God, let's get him to a hospital. And he showed me this video, and it's incredible. There is a race. I didn't even know this. There is a race of people that go across the Atlantic in rowboats. That's stupid.

There's airplanes now. But anyway, so what he wants to put together is this team. He's got a group of guys that they're all vets. And this would be the first all-U.S. veteran team to ever row across the Atlantic. Bo is joining us now with this crazy idea. And welcome to the program, Bo. How are you? I'm doing good. How are you doing, Glenn? Good.

So, Bo, do you feel comfortable at all talking a little bit about? your journey here after, you know, service? Sure, sure, absolutely. What would you like to know? Well, I mean, I obviously know it all, but I mean, you know, can you in a nutshell, you know, talk a little bit about the struggle that you went through and so many of your friends have gone through, PTSD and everything else when you come back home? Sure, yeah.

You know, coming back is difficult for everybody, I think, and everybody deals with it in their own way. I certainly had, you know, some of my own struggles. Yeah, substance abuse was one of them. Just disconnected from my family and anybody who cared about me. And it was quite the journey to get to where I'm at today. And we see it in every, all of our friends, all of our brothers and sisters that are coming back, you know. And suicide is a big one. and that's what this whole rowing journey is about.

Right. You've named this row, or fight or a-O-R, die. And, you know, we have a history of suicide in our family, me with my mom, you with your father, and friends now that are coming back, that are killing themselves. So you've put together, tell me about the team that you've put together. Who are these guys?

Looks and I serve together overseas. and then there's a Matt Bryant and troopers, Army Rangers, and Special Forces guys, and you know, and see it in every that have done the same. So you get into a boat, and it's not just like a rowboat. This is an amazing boat. You get into a boat and you row for 50 straight days. It's crazy. But this boat is a different kind of boat.

Can you explain what it is? It's designed specifically for ocean rowing. It has basically two small cabins in it so that you can sleep in all of your navigation and whatnot is in those areas as well. For our boat, it's a four-man boat, so we'll have three rowing stations. We plan on rowing two guys at a time, and it rotates every two hours. and those the boats you know they have solar panels and water makers so and it's 100% self-sustained so all of our food and water and everything is on the boat when we go it's about a 28-foot boat that we're going to take across the ocean so so you want to do this and it's not just for you when you come back the thing that really

excited me about this is when you come back you're going to be the first all-U.S. veteran team to ever do this. But when you come back, you want other vets to do this. Yes, absolutely. We as, you know, fight or die, our team, we're not just roaming it to go do it ourselves. We're trying to spark a fire in the veterans in the country to get involved, to start doing this stuff, to take action, you know, and help out your brothers and sisters because there's a lot of great organizations out there, but we're not winning this fight, you know,

when we come back and we want to win. And so we want everybody to start getting involved. If, you know, if you're a veteran, it doesn't matter what branch, how long ago you served. You know, to us, we just, we need to get the team back together, so to speak, and start helping each other out because, you know, nobody's, I, we just, we need to get that team back together and help each other like we used to. So here's how you can help. You can go to the website, USVetRow.com.

USVetRow.com. They've got kind of a tight window here. By August 18th, they need to raise, what is it, 50,000? By August 18th. So they have to raise $50,000 to be able to get the boat. This competition, this race actually. happens in December. And again, if they can make it this December,

they will be the first all U.S. veteran team to attempt this, and hopefully you would win. But they need your help to raise money for the boat. And then, again, they have a, you can find it on the website at usvett row.com. They have a plan to actually have this go on in perpetuity to be able to to help our vets. And I will tell you, the things that work with our vets, I know people who have started hunting camps,

you've talked about that. Oh, you've helped on some of those. Absolutely. But, you know, they started hunting camps. It's a different way. Our vets recover in different ways. If you said to me, hey, by the way, you're feeling a little down? Good.

Get your ass in a boat. We're going to row across the ocean. I think that would push me over the edge. but for the vets it works so find out all about it and if you can help please do fight or die Bo thanks I'm proud of you

and I am so proud of the progress that you have made you have gone through hell and came out the other side a man your father would be very proud of thanks Gwen appreciate it Beau bye bye find out all the information

at glenbeck.com We spoke earlier this week about, remember, Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the chalkboard that we outlined for you over the last couple of days. If you've missed it, just go to glenbeck.com and you can find it. We did the chalkboard on television on Wednesday, and yesterday we did it here on television. And tried to explain this timeline of this IT. I don't even know what you would call it, crime family of some sort. something was going on with the DNC's and Democratic congressman's

IT department started with one guy, started with the one congressman in Florida, then jumped to Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and the best case scenario is that this family and group of friends from Pakistan, they were all people that seem to have a streak of larceny in them.

They have tried to blackmail others in the past with what little we know. So the best case scenario is they got in to Congress, they started finding out information through access granted to them on their email servers and they started blackmailing

the congressman. just for money, and not necessarily for any other reason overseas. Then it looks like they hit financial trouble. Now, this family, there's six of them, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the Democrats were paying them $4 million. They were making salaries of $120,000 and above when the top salary in that category in Congress is $40,000 to $60,000. So they're making double the highest paid person IT, and they keep hiring their friends.

Some of them, like literally right from McDonald's. Yeah, and if you're a Blaze TV subscriber, which of course you should be, if you're there, go watch the chalkboard. We did it on radio and you did it on the TV show about this story because it's a very difficult one to kind of not be able to understand without conceptualizing it visually. You kind of have to see that timeline. But when you see this, what it's all laid out. like this, none of it makes any sense.

I mean, there's obviously something missing major in the story. Yeah, not, you can't. The best case scenario is, in my opinion, and correct me if I'm wrong, Stu, what this Debbie Wasserman-Sholtz story is, best case scenario, group of people who are just grifters, and they come in, they get a foot in the door of Congress, and all they're going to do is just start blackmailing people. And it's no national secrets. They're not doing it against the United States or anything else. They're just blackmailing people. They want money. Then they start spending that money and it gets out of control.

They have to declare bankruptcy. Then somebody overseas calls the lead guy, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, IT guy. He goes over to Beirut. He meets with a guy who's connected to Hezbollah. That guy, we know, gave him $100,000 as an investment. Okay. So perhaps at that point, Hezbollah, somebody overseas, is saying, hey, we'll help you out, but you've got to get us some information.

That's the best case scenario. Worst case scenario, these guys who now the family is over in Pakistan, the main ringleader is here in America. But the worst case scenario is this is full-fledged espionage. And they were blackmailing. several of our Congress people. Here's Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Her latest

comment on this. Now remember, I just gave you... Am I right, Stu? That's the best case scenario you could think. Remember, the other part he was arrested for bank fraud. And so at the very least, we think bank fraud has been... Correct. But it looks much worse. I want you to hear what, Debbie Wasserman

Schultz, she is still defending this guy. Not only did I did the right thing, because as I said, at the beginning of this conversation, there are times when you can't be afraid to stand alone and you have to stand up for what's right. And, you know, even in the face, you have to, there are times you have to spend political capital to do what's right. Like I said, the easier thing to do for me would have been to justify him. Obviously, I was the person who's had the

most political challenges in the last year, so it would have been much easier for me to just cut him loose and say, you know, I'm going to look out for my best interests rather than stand up for what I believe in, but I have to be able to look at myself in the mirror every day. It's unreal. And if there's one thing, I'm going to make sure that I maintain is my integrity. Oh, my.

What are you fighting for? Wow. Because this is obviously, you can apply that defense to numerous amounts of issues, but why this one? Yeah. When he's been so shady, and there's been clear violations, like bank fraud.

Yeah, no, I mean, there's clear... Come on. There's clear bank fraud. His wife, you know, escaped the country and is now under the protection of the Pakistani government. Something is not right here. She's saying, she's not saying, hey, I did the right thing at the time. And we signed out. But I didn't have all of the evidence. What she's saying is, I'd do exactly the same thing today.

I'd make the same choices knowing what I know now. I'd still, I've got to back him up. I still back him. I do it because I wanted to do the right thing, which makes it would you see. Are they just so close? Like I was so close friends with this guy. I would never believe he did anything wrong and I don't think he did. If that's true, why are you firing him now?

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