The Glenn Beck Program - Alex Jones Is Proof That Speech Isn’t Free | 6/7/24
Episode Date: June 7, 2024Filling in for Glenn, Pat and Stu discuss President Biden’s unpopularity and whether or not Democrats will attempt to replace him as their candidate. Stu breaks down the approval ratings of previous... presidents at the end of their first terms, showcasing the danger Biden faces with his record-low approval rating. Pat and Stu discuss the LGBT approval in America and where Americans draw the line in their support. More Americans than ever are identifying as LGBTQ+. The guys go through a new poll suggesting high-schoolers are steering away from alcohol and other vices. InfoWars owner Alex Jones is set to lose everything in liquidation to pay the impossibly high amount he owes the families of Sandy Hook. Why isn’t the media concerned about finding out who actually harassed the families of the Sandy Hook victims? Pat and Stu go over the unfair treatment conservatives receive and how it helps them relate to President Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We talked a little bit about this.
I don't think we had the video at the time,
but we talked about him sort of sitting in a pretend chair or whatever.
What was he?
He was kind of bending down, squatting down like he was, I don't know, maybe pooping his pants.
It was a number two incident.
Yeah.
That was at least the, that was what people were saying.
There was some speculation.
Speculation.
Yes.
Maybe like Al Roker once did at the White House,
maybe the president of the United States
at this D-Day commemoration
actually pooped his pants.
But here is the actual video
of what happened, what transpired.
And he's standing there, looks over.
And he starts to...
Distinguished guests.
Bend up.
What are you doing?
The Honorable Lloyd J. Austin, the third.
Secretary of Defense of the United States of America.
He does sit down.
He does actually sit.
All right.
He just wanted to sit down.
I mean, everyone was cutting off the video before that.
He was, yeah.
And he stops in the middle of it and eventually does sit down.
Again, we'll do all the fact checking.
The media won't do.
There was a lot of talk about him pooping his pants.
I mean, he may have also done that.
I can't deny it.
But he was just.
But he was just trying to sit down early.
Yeah, sitting in slow motion there.
Yeah, sitting in slow motion and sitting down before everyone else nearby.
So if you cut the clip off, which is what everyone did online.
Yeah.
It looks like.
what's going on.
It looks like he's just kind of sitting in an invisible chair and then stands back up.
But actually, he is just sitting down.
Yes.
Now, if you watch this again carefully, if you're able to see this on Blaze TV, as he's sitting
down, Jill kind of puts her hand over her mouth.
And I think she's saying, don't sit down yet.
I think she gets so disgusted with him.
Look at right there, she covers.
And I think she's saying something to him.
Yep.
Don't you just wait a minute.
Something irritating.
He just had a real itchy upper lip for about two seconds there.
Yeah.
She's just disgusted with him.
I mean, I can't, I don't know.
I can't believe that she's on board to keep pushing him forward in this.
She must love the power position so much.
Yeah, I kind of think she does love it.
I'm not surprised.
Because it's not good for him to be doing this.
You know, if you really love the guy, if you really care about the guy, you're like,
Honey, you can't run.
Get out.
You can't do this.
Just let Kamala take over or Gavin Newsom or whatever.
We're going to go back to Delaware.
Wouldn't you?
I mean, if you care, first of all, about your husband,
but if you care about the nation and you see what's going on with him,
I don't know how you could do anything but encourage him to drop out.
And I don't know that that would work.
I don't know that she would be able to step in and make him.
him leave. I mean, he's the president of the United States. And that's the one thing that is the one
reason why at this point, I would say a favorite to win my bets against Glenn Beck, Jason
Buttrill, others, who claimed that he was going to drop out and Michelle Obama was going to
become the nominee. The reason why I was confident on that, and I could still be wrong, but the reason
why I was confident on it is because he still has to make the decision. And he's still the
president of the United States. He's an ego maniac.
And he thinks he can do it. And like the main
reason to, the main way you could
force him out is people
in his family, people around him talking to him
and convincing him of that. I don't think that's
possible. The guys wanted this gig his entire
life. Yeah. I think the only way
you could do it is with
leverage. You know, House
of Card style. Right?
Like you are, you have something against him
and it's going
to be in the papers the next day if you don't
leave. Now there's plenty of
stuff in Joe Biden's, you know, plenty of skeletons in the closet that could be utilized
in this manner.
Yeah.
But he also knew that when he decided to run.
And despite the fact he knew what would happen to his son, right?
Like, he knew all this would come out.
Did it anyway.
He did it anyway because he wants this so badly.
Yep.
He's always wanted this.
He's always believed he's the best guy for it.
Yeah.
Everyone has told him his entire life he's a joke.
Mm-hmm.
And he's proving everybody wrong.
But he believes himself to be brilliant.
Yeah.
And witty and charming and funny.
He's none of those things.
Yep.
He's never been on the inside of those intellectual circles.
Yeah, he loves it.
He's always been kind of a foot soldier.
Yeah.
He's always been sort of demeaned as a second guy.
And Barack treated him that way.
Yep.
Barack treated him that way.
He was a joke in every primary he ran in until he ran into one that he,
only faced an out socialist during a pandemic.
Mm-hmm.
Every other part of his career has been kind of an embarrassment, right?
Like he's been able to, to, yeah, he won early in Delaware and then held on to a seat he
never could possibly lose in a state he couldn't possibly lose in.
Yeah.
And he kind of just hung around and was kind of a joke.
And now he's the president of the United States.
And you're telling me he's just going to leave?
Like, I don't know.
I'm a big skeptic on that one.
So you've got a $3,000 bet with Glenn, right?
On Big Mike.
And also Buttrill?
Yeah, Butchrell's in on that.
I have a list right here of Michelle Obama heads.
Now, not all of them I have wagers with, but these are people who've come on the air or have...
And believe as Glenn does, that Big Mike is going to run.
That Big Mike is going to be the nominee.
Okay.
We have Glenn Beck, Jason Buttrill, Stephen Moore.
Wow.
Really?
Yes.
Huh.
Dan Andros?
Oh my gosh.
Bill O'Reilly.
These people should know better.
I mean, I can see the path.
I don't think it's crazy.
I can see the path.
It's only crazy because she hates the country too much to do it.
Yeah, but I mean, what's better way to show that you despise the nation.
You could finish us off.
With one four-year term, you could finish the job.
But I think she likes her current lifestyle way too much.
And I think that, you know, finally she's enjoying the kind of life that she believes she's always deserved.
And, you know, they got the $100 million deal from Netflix or whatever.
They've got deals all over the place for stuff they're not even doing.
Yeah.
For things that haven't even happened and people just keep throwing money out of them.
And she loves it.
They have three houses all over the world.
Hawaii, Washington, D.C., Chicago.
They've got, I mean, they've got a nice lifestyle going.
It's a great life.
I don't believe she would jeopardize that.
And they're largely past the political divisions that would make her life miserable.
Right.
Like, I mean, you know, time heals a lot of wounds.
You know, remember, you're in 2006.
Anywhere George W. Bush goes, people are throwing shoes at him.
Right?
Like, even now, George W. Bush can go around and go to baseball games.
Like, you know.
And he's fine.
He's fine.
Yeah.
He's fine.
And it's plenty fine for them.
It's a different world.
Yeah.
And Obama especially, like, was all.
ready as a quote unquote superstar when he was in there.
Michelle is now, I mean, she gets to do whatever she wants.
She gets a multi-million dollar Netflix deals.
She's making TV shows.
And I'm grateful for it because she would finish us.
She'd finish us off.
Money well spent.
Disaster.
You know, people talk about Netflix being liberal.
Of course they are.
But like they're doing an American service here.
They are.
By spending money to the Obama, give him money to the Obamas to, you know, to keep that down.
Because I would worry about it.
I, if she were the nominee, it was.
She'd win.
She'd certainly be the favorite.
She'd certainly be the favorite.
I don't know how she would handle a campaign.
I mean, when she's campaigned, when she was really out there doing her thing,
they took her off the campaign trail because she was doing such a bad job.
But that was early.
And she's probably learned.
It was so obvious how much she loathed this country.
They had to take her off the campaign trail.
Right.
Now, she obviously ran a second campaign.
Everything, I mean, not everything was fine.
But it was, it wasn't nearly as bad.
It was better.
She learned, I think, over time, what she could get.
away with. Not everyone has never been proud of their country and their adult lives.
Right. She learns that eventually. Oh my gosh. So I don't think these are, I don't think the
Michelle Obama theory is a wild theory, especially if something happened late, right? Like if you were,
if it was a situation, I don't know, it's hard to understand how Kamala wouldn't get it. And I know
people are like, how can they possibly? It's Kamala's unless it was a performance issue.
that removed them. Now, of course, we could all say, hey, this has been a performance issue.
I don't know everyone's noticed this. It's gone very poorly.
Yeah. You're at 37, 38%. I don't think you're getting that. Did we talk about this, Pat?
What the number is where they just pull them from the ticket for approval rating?
I don't think we did. What do you think that number is?
I think it's 29%. 29? That's what I came up with. Okay. It's in 36 last I heard.
36, 37, 38 is light years away from 29%.
Because what that means is you're essentially losing a quarter of your base.
It can happen.
I mean, George W. Bush, at the end of his term, was right around there, 29%.
Around his second term.
Was it that bad?
Yeah, because you're in the financial crisis, right?
He leaves.
You're October, November.
If I remember right, he had a couple polls in the high 20s.
You have that going for re-election.
I think they might just pull the.
I mean, only Nixon has been there before, right?
Has anybody been that low besides Richard Nixon?
I don't know.
I have to, you know what?
I can look that up.
I can get that for you here in a minute.
But it is one of those situations where you look at the performance here, and you could say his presidency has been bad enough to justify him being removed.
But if you're going to remove him for health reasons, you can go, you're going to go to Kamala.
You have to go to Kamala, I think.
If you remove him for health reasons,
if his excuses, I got to be with my son, Hunter.
I've got to leave because of, you know, my, I've got, you know,
one of the 45 things you see go wrong with me every day is acting up.
Whatever the health reason, God forbid something terrible happens to him,
you'd have a situation where there you'd have to go to Kamala.
If you go to performance and say, oh my gosh, 29% approval rating,
we're just pulling them off the ticket.
And at that point, you could make the argument Kamala's been so bad.
We're going to another person of color, which you'd have to do in the Democratic side.
It would have to be another woman of color.
And Michelle Obama is the only one probably who can step in in that scenario.
So I don't think it's a wild theory.
But like the fact that I got even odds with Glenn on it was a freaking miracle.
It was not, it was never even odds.
Now, luckily, Glenn doesn't gamble, so has no idea what any of this means.
Yeah.
So, like, I would have given him probably five to one on it.
but you know
Glenn doesn't know what he didn't need to I didn't need to
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one of them was about Vladimir Putin.
Here's what he had to say there.
Let me ask you about what Vladimir Putin said last night about this authorization of
American weapons inside Russia.
He said the supply of high precision weapons to Ukraine for strikes on Russian territory
is direct participation in this war.
He went on to say that this is the way to serious problems and again talked about
Russia's nuclear capabilities.
Does that concern you?
I've known him for over 40 years.
Oh, good.
He's concerned me for 40 years.
He's not a decent man.
He's a dictator.
And neither are you.
And he's struggling to make sure he holds this country together while still keeping this assault going.
We're not talking about giving them weapons to strike Moscow, to strike the Kremlin, to strike in.
Just across the border where they're receiving significant fire from conventional weapons used by the Russians to go into Ukraine to kill the Ukrainians.
It's like someone said, hey, I dare you to just take one breath and do the whole interview.
I'm just exhaling the entire time.
It's like you can't even understand the guy.
I know.
And I really can't understand what we're doing with this situation in Russia.
It's exactly what he said we wouldn't do.
And he's doing it anyway.
Crosses his own red lines over and over and over again because he's pathetic.
And I, you have to, let me ask you this, Pat.
Other than an all-out attack by the United States troops on Moscow,
if you wanted to start World War III,
what would you change about the approach that we are currently engaged in?
What other...
You mean now that we're sending them long-range weaponry?
Other than us directly attacking them.
F-16s?
Yeah.
I wouldn't change anything.
Yeah.
It's a great path.
It's a great path if you want World War III.
Yes.
Right. Like, I am, I don't know, maybe I, I, I, I misread the, you know, the audience at times when it comes to conservatives. But like, I feel like when I, when we talk about Ukraine, I feel like I'm probably more sympathetic to the Ukrainian cause here than many in the audience. I feel like they got attacked out of nowhere. It's, it's BS. They should have their right to, to defend themselves. Sure. However, our role in that,
is the problem, right? I don't have any issue at all. And I feel like if I have to look at who's
right, who's right and who's wrong in this back and forth, I think Ukraine has the much better
argument here. I understand Russia has concerns and they've expressed them as far as NATO and
we have some issues there, the way we handled that. But at the end of the day, they're sitting
there. It's Russian tanks coming across the border. They are the ones who were attacked. If I were a
talk show host in Ukraine. I would
be arguing constantly that no, we're not giving them
crimey and no, we're not giving them
the Donbuss re-
no, we're not doing any of that. We're going to
fight till the death. I'm sure that's
what I would think. However,
why, if, even if
we decided, hey, we got to
give them weapons, even if we
decided, hey, we want to
give them weapons to strike
within Russian territory,
why do I, do
I know about it? Why do I, some moron who lives in Texas, have any idea that we are allowing them to
fire our missiles into Russian territory? We should be in a constant state of denial over that,
even if we were doing it. When the Russians say, this is a, we just found the shrapnel
of an American missile within our borders, we should be saying, I don't know what you're talking.
about. We don't even make missiles. We don't even know where the borders are. We lost access to maps.
Have you ever seen Miss South Carolina of a teen in 2013? We don't have maps. We don't make that
point legitimately. He doesn't know where it is. Everyone would believe him. Everyone would believe
he should just be like, I was watching Matlock. I don't even know what's going on over there.
That is the appropriate answer. The fact that this guy is doing interviews. Incredible.
about how we're letting our weapons,
we're approving our weapons to be fired into Russian territory is freaking insane.
He's just.
Vladimir Putin doesn't need our encouragement to escalate wars.
But the fact that we continue to give it to him, give him justification to his own people.
And we've done that every step of the way.
How do you get them to back down?
He legitimately can go to his people and say,
the American military is allowing their weapons to be fired at you.
Right.
Now, of course he's exaggerating.
We are already at war with America because of that.
Also, we would consider it that way.
We've broken every promise we made to him.
I mean, I am not in favor of Vladimir Putin and the Russians.
I want Ukraine to win this war.
But we told them in the beginning, we promised, hey, Ukraine is not a possibility for NATO.
We're not going to do that.
They're not coming into NATO.
So what have we done since?
We invited them into NATO.
It's incredible.
It is incredible.
It is incredible.
And I don't know.
If it was Ronald Reagan, 1984, maybe I'd feel a little more competent of this approach.
Because at least I'd know he was doing the, he had the competence level to try to handle something like this, which is very difficult to do.
Very few presidents would be able to handle this.
And you have this guy.
doing it, look how well it's going so far.
Right.
I mean, I can't even sit down in a chair properly.
Saw that yesterday.
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We were just talking about the approval rating of Joe Biden,
which two months ago was, was it 38%?
Last month it was 36.
Did it just go down to 34 in one of the polls?
I didn't see a 34, but it's not out of, I mean, it's right in the margin of error.
Yeah.
Again, I know I'm talking about one poll at 29%.
they pull them. I think it's like a
consistent. That is
consistent. Right. Yeah.
So current Joe Biden approval
rating average, 37.6%.
That's current.
That's the average.
A terrible number. And basically
as low as it's been.
In fact, I think it is the lowest
it's been. It was right around
38 at the
for the average.
At the average. At the
average, at the peak of the inflation
when it was really, you know,
9.7%. Which is, by the way,
started for him. Yeah. That's what I heard about his administration. It's weird that it shows that it's like 18
months into his presidential term, but that is weird. That is, there must be an error in the graph.
37.6% for Biden. So historically, how does this measure up against presidents at this time of
their presidency? Really well, right? Really well. Is he the highest? Let's go, we'll go back to
1945 Harry Truman. Okay. Here we go. Harry Truman, this is this one, it starts off looking pretty good for Joe.
Harry Truman, only 38.9% approval rating at this point in this presidency. Still better than Joe's, though.
And it got a lot better. Wow. Later on, in fact, later on in term, he hit almost 70%. So this was a very low point for Truman. Yeah. Okay. Eisenhower, let's see. It was 70.5% at this point, at this point. A little higher than Joe's 38. Just a tad. Yeah. Now, JFK technically was at zero because he was dead at this point in his presidency. So I,
I mean, I don't know if you give that one to Joe Biden.
No.
And I guess, I mean, actually, his approval rating was much higher than that, but I don't really count it because he was no longer alive.
So, Lyndon B. Johnson, 45.7%.
Jesus.
So about eight points better than Joe Biden.
Richard Nixon, 59.1%.
Obviously, way ahead.
And this is before Watergate.
This is first term.
So if you want to look at where Nixon got after all of this.
I think he got down to 24, didn't he?
Yeah, about 24% was as low.
Good memory, Pat.
That's about 24% was as low right as he was about to resign.
Now, he, once Watergate kind of kicked in, I mean, he was close to 70% as he, towards the end of his first term.
And that turned down for Watergate and then hovered around 30 for a while and eventually dropped into the mid-20s.
So obviously that was suboptimal, if you happen to be, Richard Nixon, didn't go.
Great.
You've got
Gerald Ford was about 40%.
Jimmy Carter, another close call here
for Joseph Robinette Biden.
He was on a downfall here.
Remember, he loses this election, of course,
but Carter's still ahead of Biden by two points.
Wow.
39.8% at this point in his presidency.
Wow.
Then you go over to Ronald Reagan.
Of course, no surprise here.
Reagan's at 55.2% in climbing
at this point in his president.
presidency.
George H.W. Bush is at 40%.
Now remember, this is Bush off of the peaks of in the 80s, 82% approval when the Iraq war
happens.
The minor, minor recession that kicks in at the very end of his presidency somehow is such
a big deal that he tanks after this.
And at some point soon, likely Biden will be ahead of where Bush was, George H.W. Bush.
I remind you.
George H.W. Bush was not reelected.
Right.
So this is not a position you want to be competing with.
He is still currently behind George H.W. Bush, who had a 40% approval rating.
Bill Clinton was at 53.4%.
You're getting a good streak here.
All the scandals.
This is pre-Skandles.
This is pre-Lewinsky.
And you're at the point where the economy is doing well.
Jennifer Flowers maybe had that.
Oh, yeah, he had scandals.
Yeah.
But it was before Lewinsky.
It was before Lewinsky.
Before it was really serious, before impeach.
and all of that. And this is coming off of the recession that got in the presidency.
Yeah.
From in the George H.W. Bush term. And the recovery had happened. The internet boom was going on.
Like this was a good time for Clinton. He's at 53.4 in rising at that point.
George W. Bush has gone past 9-11 where he was at, you know, 86, 87 percent approval.
The Iraq war kind of kicks off. He rises back up to about 69 percent as that kicks off.
and he's on a long, very long downfall that goes down.
But again, he does get reelected.
George W. Bush is at 44.5% at this point in his presidency.
Barack Obama does get reelected.
He's at 47.7% right now.
Now, again, Obama had, people forget this because they think, oh, remember, he was a celebrity
and he had all these big speeches and everyone was ever.
He was not very popular as a president.
His approval ratings were pretty bad, pretty middling, I would say, throughout.
He really did not have a very good approval rating for most of his presidency.
And you compare it with people like George W. Bush.
I mean, Obama did not do well in those comparisons most of the time.
Problem there was Republicans.
The Republican choices that we had to pit against Obama, John McCain.
Yep.
And Mitt Romney?
Well, no wonder he won.
two terms.
And he won narrowly
that second one,
but he did win.
And his approval rating
by the time
the election happened
was about 50%.
So that is a line
we see often here.
If you're above
43,
44% approval rating,
your chances of being
reelected are pretty good.
You know,
people like incumbents,
they don't like incumbents,
but the incumbent advantage
is real.
That's something that is real.
And by the way,
Donald Trump, who again is obviously, as the media would tell you is the least popular man of all time, he was at 42.2% right now at this point. Like five points ahead of where Biden is right now. Let me see. We revise it at 41%. So about three and a half points ahead. But still, again, Trump did not get reelected, right? Yeah. So you look at this and you would say this is, you're not in a good position at all if you're Joe Biden. He's behind. I don't know if anyone follow this. Every single. Every.
single one of these presidents.
All of them.
He's behind all of them.
But just all of them. He will likely...
He's not ahead of people who didn't run.
Or we're never elected president.
And to be fair, JFK.
You can make the argument he's ahead of JFK.
You could make that because again...
At least the information we know right now is hard is still beating.
Right. Okay.
So I think he'll be at.
By the end of...
Now, he...
probably at some point here in the next few months will pass George H.W. Bush, who dropped to like 30%
at one point before rising towards the end of his term. And he may pass Jimmy Carter, who was down,
who did hit down to like, you know, 32% by the end of his term. When did the read my lips thing
happened? Was that, and you know, and started getting disgust because he did raise taxes after he said
the read my lips. And that was. Yeah, when was the tax?
When did that happen?
Good point.
I mean, he must have thought he...
I could see why he would go down to 30%.
Can you imagine how unbeatable he must have felt?
When he was at 90% or something in some polls.
George H.W. Bush was at 82.2% on the average.
That's average.
Two years in.
So he's after...
I mean, that is like he must have thought he was unbeatable.
Unbeatable at that point.
And then he winds up with the next year and a half dropping to 30% approval rating.
It's incredible.
It's hard to imagine that stuff happening today because people are so in their lanes.
They don't leave.
There's a lot more of switching back in the day.
That's why a lot of these approval ratings, you could argue if you want to defend a Barack Obama or a Donald Trump, that like people are so in their silos on these people, you're never going to get 60, 70, 80 percent approval ratings anymore outside of maybe a war or, you know, something like that.
You just don't get those anymore.
I think maybe George W. Bush was the last one at 9-11.
And that was because it was such a specific thing that happened.
Like I, you know, I don't know.
And it didn't last.
It didn't last, right?
I mean, he was at 80, 80, let's see, 85, 86% when 9-11 happens.
One year later, he's at 57.
So it drops.
I mean, it loses about 30 points.
And then in the Iraq war happens, it pops back up to about 68, 69.
Because Americans band together.
Band together.
When we're fighting wars.
And, of course, it's forgotten now, but massive bipartisan support for that war.
Yeah.
It was not a controversial vote.
People like Hillary Clinton were voting for it.
He drops down to around election time.
He's in the mid-40s and kind of hovers there until his second term.
I mean, you go to his second term, he drops down.
His average approval rating right before he leaves office is like 24%.
W?
George W. Bush.
Because it's the 2008 crisis.
Well, yeah, the crisis.
The border situation.
That was part of it.
The prosecution of the border agents.
I mean, there was a lot going on there that, well, that I didn't like.
Right.
And that's what's interesting, Pat, is these types of disasters with approval rating only occur when you lose your own side.
It's not about like generally bad vibes.
It's about losing everything.
You know, Nixon was an example of this, though he still, and so did George W. Bush.
maintain 60, 70% of Republican support.
You start seeing numbers like 50 and 60% among Republicans, or in this case, among Democrats.
That's the time you see a party maybe making a move before an election, a desperation Hail Mary type move.
And then that move, maybe you move to someone else other than Kamala to Michelle Obama or something.
Time's running out, though.
Yeah, it's going to be, it would be crazy.
It's possible.
It's possible, but it's just not likely.
I mean, we're with four years away from, you know, the country's shutting down.
Like, anything's possible.
I think at this point, you can't rule stuff out.
But unlikely, you know, unlikely.
And the guy wants it.
You know, it's not a guy who's not a, he's not a person who's sitting there going,
oh, I don't know.
I don't really want this responsibility.
I don't like the pressures of the White House.
That's all BS.
Biden wants every bit of that.
He thinks he's amazing.
He thinks you don't understand how amazing he is.
That's his view of this situation.
I don't understand how amazing he is.
And you seem to refuse to try.
I know.
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You are the fantasy general manager of the Democratic Party right now.
Okay.
All right, you're making all decisions.
you have our dictatorship.
You, your goal is the Democrats to win this election.
This is a little bit hard to put yourself in this position,
but I want you to think as a Democrat here.
Okay.
I come into you.
I go, uh, Pat, Pat, we have a, we have an opportunity.
We've got to make a decision right the second.
We just got word from Joe Biden.
He is willing to step down from the nomination,
fake a health issue, say he wants to take care of his son,
whatever BS he comes up with.
He's willing to step down.
under one scenario and one scenario only.
Michelle Obama's not in.
We've got nothing else to go to here.
You could make a switch right this second for Kamala Harris.
She can be the nominee.
Joe Biden steps down.
She can be the nominee.
Do you pull the trigger on that decision?
Let me give you one other piece of evidence here.
They both have the same set of policies attached to them.
Right? They've been in the same administration.
Yeah.
What is the biggest weakness, though, when you talk about Joe Biden?
We just talked about him maybe pooping on stage for the past hour.
Okay?
Yeah.
All right.
His biggest weakness to voters, despite all of his terrible policies, is his age.
Right.
You would eliminate that problem completely.
Yes, you'd have the word salad problem, but you're not getting any better than that with Joe Biden anyway.
No, that's for sure.
And you'd have a candidate in, what are 50s?
Yeah.
And now all of a sudden, Donald Trump.
Trump's the one that's approaching 80.
You've got identity politics going for you.
You've got a person who can imagine what will be unburdened by what has been.
Right.
And you hear that a plus.
That's a lot.
You're going to hear it every day.
You're going to hear that for four years.
And you'll hear incredible information about school buses.
Right?
Right.
I mean, there's a lot of upside here.
And who doesn't love a yellow.
school books. I mean, they're incredible.
Now, you can listen to that and be like, God, how could you put her at the top of the ticket?
And I understand that. Yeah. But all of these things...
Now, if I say no, does Joe stay? Joe stays. That's your only other option. Joe stays or Kamala's your nominee, you switched out right now.
So just who has a better chance to win? Yeah. Right?
Man. And Gavin Newsom's not an option.
Not Gavin Newsom's not an option. Joe will only step down because he loves Kamala so much.
What about Richard Gephard? Is Richard Gephardt in option?
You can put him as the VP.
You can put Dick Gephard as the VP if you'd like.
Under those circumstances, Kamala, running for president.
Richard Gephardt, VP.
Yeah.
I'm in.
Yes.
I make the switch.
I think I do.
I think if I really am in the situation, I think I'd make that switch.
Because you would lose the age thing.
You'd gain other problems, but they're all problems that Biden has.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, she can't talk.
He can't talk.
She'd be able to walk across the stage, though.
Yeah.
You know, she wouldn't fall asleep during the debate.
Right.
Like, I mean, at least you'd have some things.
Plus, you'd get fawning media attention about how she's the first black woman president for five months.
I mean, I think it would improve your chances.
I don't think it would hurt your chances.
I don't think so.
I mean, she's terrible.
Believe me.
Very much so.
But she'd have at least maybe some shielding away from some of these problems in that she didn't have full control of them.
I don't know.
I think I'd do it if I were the devil.
And she's unburdened by what has been.
Oh, yeah.
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So in the last 40 years.
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New study out.
This was done at the University of Chicago.
And they've found that Americans broadly support LGBTQI-A-2-plus people living as they wish.
Who doesn't support that?
Go ahead and live by how you want.
would anybody say no you must live the way I want you to would anybody say that I don't know
if you want to do it I suppose there's a few people that would say that it's usually the complaints
typically have to do with that with stuff being you know you know the drag queen story hours right
like that stuff being inflicted on children is where there seems to be lines for people yes yes
and there should be those lines right don't leave our kids out of it leave leave the kids out of it
But in 1985, 72% of American adults said sexual relations between adults of the same sex were always or almost always wrong.
72% in 1985, almost 40 years ago.
What is that number today?
If you had to guess, what would you?
I would probably guess 15%.
A little bit higher than that, actually.
It's 28%.
That's actually surprising.
28%.
In 1985, 65, 64% of people of Americans said they'd be very upset if their child was gay or lesbian.
Now, 14%.
So very much closer to what you thought on the other question.
In 1985, 51% said they favored laws protecting gay and lesbian people from job discrimination.
That seems low.
even in 1985.
Should anybody be discriminated against in the workplace?
Sorry, you can't have the promotion.
You're gay?
That's, yeah, right?
Because that's what you would be protected against.
Or I'm sorry you can't have this job because you're Catholic or whatever.
Sure.
I mean, those things are wrong and we've always known that.
Yeah, I would think that.
But maybe that's not true in these polls?
Apparently not.
Only 51% in 85 favored laws.
in the latest poll, 77% do,
which still seems somewhat low to me.
Because discrimination on any basis
you would think would be wrong in the eyes of Americans.
And it's still, I mean, look, there's not a lot of things that 80% of Americans agree on.
So I suppose that is still a lot.
But I would have guessed a little higher on that one, I would say.
Now, they say that for trans support, it's a little bit different.
The numbers are lower for trans.
support.
Yeah.
But I'm not sure how you define support, you know, because that's an important question.
Do they give you the text of the question on this one?
I'm looking here.
I don't see.
Those questions show that there are some of the levels of acceptance just aren't as high
for trans people as non-binary as they are for gay men and lesbians.
About one in four Americans said, for example, that they'd be very upset if their child
was transgender or non-binary,
nearly twice as many
who said they'd feel the same way
about a gay child.
That makes sense to me
as far as what the American people would think.
You know, I...
And, you know, some of these things just are changes
over periods of time.
But some of it, I think, is...
Like, I think there's a major line
between the L and the G
and the T, right?
And that line...
And I think the reason why Americans have such an issue with the T part of this particular equation is that the T requires us to participate in something that's not true.
Right.
The T is, okay, you're saying you're a man and you're definitely a woman or vice versa.
And you're demanding that I participate in that falsehood, right?
That is a really heavy ask for someone.
Sure is.
You're saying I have to say, even though I know you're a man, I have to say actually you're a woman.
I have to lie.
Because that's how you identify.
Because that's how you identify.
Yeah.
You still have the same body parts.
Yeah.
But now you're just identifying as something else.
Right.
Now this is unlike the L and the G.
You know, a couple of gay friends, good individuals.
They really are gay.
It's not like a man-woman thing.
We're like, he's saying he's a woman, but he's actually a man.
No, he really likes the dudes.
Like, that's his thing.
You know, what are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
I might not be my thing.
But what you're asking me to do in that situation is say, look, he's making choices that don't involve me.
And they are accurate.
He's made those choices, right?
That's what you're asking me to do.
With the transgender part of this, you're asking me to,
to your compelling speech out of me that I know isn't true.
I can't go down that road.
And I don't think Americans largely will.
Yeah.
That's a line I feel like, you know, people won't cross.
Though I will say, you know, foundational things like men are men and women are women
used to be things we didn't usually lose.
Like we, you don't lose sight of foundational things like that.
And I do think we are at a period now where that stuff disappears.
really quickly. I mean, you're talking about these polls over a 40-year period. Let us not forget
that we currently have Joe Biden as the president of the United States. The previous president
was Donald Trump. The president before that was a Democrat who opposed to gay marriage.
That is how recently this stuff has happened and how fast we've moved. Yeah. You know,
this is a... Yeah. Happened fast. This has happened really quickly. Yeah. And so, and where I think a 40,
50-year change on something like this is pretty understandable for a society, whether it's right or
wrong. Most of that change has happened in the last, what, when was gay marriage legalized?
Was it 2014?
2015?
That sounds about right.
It was in there.
It's only been 10 years.
But once that happened, the floodgates were opened, right?
And now we're asked to do all of this other stuff that, like you said, we don't necessarily
want to do.
Like, admit that a man is a woman and a woman is a man.
if that's not backed up by biology.
And you can't even apparently identify what's a woman if you're not a biologist.
And those things, that's a bridge too far for most of us.
Sorry, go ahead.
And we resist that.
Yeah.
Look, I don't.
There's a libertarian appeal to the American people that was successful with gay marriage, for example.
Yeah.
Which was basically like, look, you know, it's not, it's not affecting you.
Can't legislate love.
It's not involving you. You're not involved in that at all.
I am involved in every transgender person. Every single time, you're involved in it. You don't
think you're involved in it. You're involved in it because they are telling you you need to say something.
They are compelling speech out of you that you know to be untrue. So you are involved in every one of those.
It's not like gay marriage. You can't make a libertarian appeal to each individual.
You can make a libertarian appeal to society and say, as I would say right now,
You shouldn't have, you shouldn't be discriminated against.
You shouldn't be beaten up in the streets.
All the obvious things.
Yeah.
You know, people, even if they make choices like this that are, you know, very strange in some ways to society and might indicate issues, mental issues that was, I mean, it was a very well recognized by a psychiatrist for a very long time as a, as an issue that was afflicting people.
or going another direction on that.
Like, you can make a direct,
you can make an argument that society should set up rules
that people can do this and all that.
But you can't set up rules
that make me participate in the lie.
I know what the truth is in these particular situations.
I know what a man is.
I know what a woman is.
I know the definition.
I don't need, you know, Matt Walsh made the movie.
What is a woman?
That woman was easy for me to answer.
I didn't need to watch the movie.
I knew.
I mean, that's something he was really trying to do with the movie.
But you know, get the point.
The question was not difficult for every single person in the audience.
Everyone knows what a woman is.
And that, of course, was the point of the movie.
Yeah.
Everyone knows, and they won't admit it.
And the experts you talked to were baffled and stumped by it.
Couldn't define a woman.
Incredible.
Yeah, that's unbelievable.
By the way, June 26th, 2015 was the Obergefell decision in the report.
2015.
It hasn't even been 10 years.
Not even been 10 years.
And do you have the, you have the game?
marriage. Was that one of the polls that you had there? It was gay marriage in that list?
Well, they put it this way. While 80% say they somewhat are strongly approve of gay and lesbian
people living as they wish, to me that would include marriage. So 80% of us are on board with that.
It drops to 67% when asked about transgender and non-binary people. And I think we covered pretty
well why that is. Yeah, I think that's true. And I don't know, live as they like. I don't know if that
maybe that includes marriage. I suppose it does. I mean, marriage is a, look, marriage is a,
is multiple things. It is a government institution that sorts you into particular tax brackets and
things like that. That to me is largely meaningless. I get nothing out of my marriage from the
government. Like I, the, when I look at my marriage as a, as an individual, I am married to a person.
The value of that marriage is zero percent of it comes to comes to me from the government.
I think you'd agree with that, right? Like, I don't, I didn't get married for the tax benefits or
penalties. That's not, I don't care that some, you know, selectman has me on a piece of
paper and is giving me a quote unquote marriage license. By the way, marriage license is
introduced into our society to stop interracial marriage. Just, just,
in case anyone was wondering, you know, people like, you know, George Washington were married
without a license.
Like that's like a new thing that came across to, you know, largely in the progressive era
to stop things like interracial marriage.
They wanted to stop at the time.
So again, like marriage in a, in another completely different sense is something that
you engage with your wife, your husband, in front of God.
like that's the thing that means something to me.
The government aspect of this means
zilch to me. I don't, I literally
don't care if they recognize my marriage.
Other than the fact that like there's issues
with like inheritance
and things like, that's the
only value you get is just them
recognizing some legal arrangement,
which you could theoretically do another way.
But when it comes to actual marriage,
Pat, I've got the poll here.
So 1996
should gay marriage be valid?
68% say no.
In 96?
In 96.
Okay.
That falls and falls and falls and falls and falls and falls and hits the breaking point in around 2010, where it's about 50-50.
And now it is 71-28.
The other way, right?
Yep, the other way.
71% they should be valid.
The exact text of the question, this is from Gallup, do you think marriages between same-sex couples should or should not be recognized by the
law as valid with the same rights as traditional marriage. So again, that progression, 1996,
only 27% said they should be valid. Now it's 71%. So like you have a complete turnaround.
Complete turnaround. You see the same thing with pot. That one has happened around about the same pace
where it was completely rejected 30, 40 years ago. Now is overwhelmingly accepted. And by the way,
you know, you don't get to 71% approval without, you know, pretty large approval from Republicans, right?
Like this is,
yeah,
that's not all Democrats,
that's for sure.
Yeah.
I mean,
it's been,
it's been,
it's one of those issues
that was a,
a massive issue.
If you remember,
in 2004,
now we're going back 20 years,
2004,
this was the issue
that Carl Rove,
I mean,
famously came up with a strategy
to put a bunch of
gay marriage
constitutional amendments
and other bills,
you know,
on the ballot in,
particularly in swing states,
to try to get people activated
to go to the polls to vote for George W. Bush
who was very much in question
whether he was going to win that election.
I mean, I don't remember,
you know, making,
really looking at it closely enough,
but my vibes were I thought Carrie
might very well win that.
I mean, it was very close.
It came down to just Ohio.
And it was one of those situations
where it felt like Bush was really on the ropes.
And now, so that was the strategy,
was this would animate conservative voters
who will come,
they'll vote against gay marriage,
and they'll, okay, I'll throw Bush on there too.
That was the strategy back then.
20 years later, this is completely opposite.
Yeah, that would backfire on you big time now.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, no one even try it.
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after decades of progress by LGBTQ plus advocates, more Americans than ever identify as LGBTQ plus.
Huh.
Yeah.
Huh.
Mm-hmm.
You know, that must be because they were so scared to come out in 2014.
That's exactly right.
They were terrified to tell the media because of all the negative attention they'd get.
Now, they've always, we've always had this number of people who identify this way.
It's just that now they're more comfortable coming out.
Right.
It's totally natural that like 48% of young people are transgendered.
That was just the way it's always been.
48% of people were always dressing in the opposite clothing and wanting their genitals cut off back in 1971.
But they just couldn't say it.
I mean, how stupid is this?
It's so ridiculous.
We know that this is a, it's a social contagion right now.
That's what it is.
It's been made to be cool, I think.
And you get a lot of attention this way.
Especially for younger people.
Yes.
Very influenced by this.
Well, 7% of adults identify as some fitting into somewhere of the LGBTQQIA2-plus realm.
Okay, 7% of adults.
But when you're talking about Gen Z, it's 20%.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
That doesn't happen just naturally.
These are two, I think, two phenomenon happening at the same time.
One is the social contagion thing that you're talking about where people, you know, the easy example of it is they watch a bunch of TikTok videos and convince themselves they have the thing, right?
Like they all have Tourette's and they all, you know, like they all have every new ailment.
And it also happens with stuff like gender identity where they, they, you know what?
I actually think I'm non-binary.
I've never really fit in with these categories.
And of course, the categories are just like defining, they're not defining as what body parts they have.
They're defining them as like these weird stereotypes of what gender should be.
I got news for you.
When I was growing up, there was a lot of kids.
A lot of girls played sports and were really good at it.
And we didn't say they didn't fit into the gender norms of women.
We just said there, the term was tomboy.
But like, it didn't mean they were boys.
It meant they were girls who like playing sports and like hung out with the guys.
Like, it's part of femininity.
Femininity.
I'm almost going to do this because of that.
It's like, it's part of it.
It's like a different part of it, but it's part of it.
They're just girls.
They're just doing their thing.
So that was part of it.
I think the other part of it, which is a little bit undersold in these polls,
is that a lot of people who are completely straight, straight as an arrow,
the girl who is 100% going to date and marry a man,
that is going to be their lives,
have decided to themselves,
well, if I found the right woman,
I don't judge people like that.
I'm actually bisexual.
And they've kind of come up with this other category,
which doesn't mean they actively hook up with both sides.
It's just this like open-ended,
I do it.
Look, I just haven't,
I've never met a girl I wanted to do that with,
but if I did, I would.
I am not against it.
Right?
I'm not judging.
And that's sort of like, I'm not judging thing equals bisexual for them when it's not.
That's what's boosted that number to 15%.
I think so.
You notice it's the one that rises the most.
I think that's because of that.
By far.
Prove it.
That's what I've said.
You're bisexual.
Prove it.
Date a girl for three years.
Then I'll believe you.
That's my new standard.
Shut up.
Shut up.
On your 25th wedding anniversary, two of them,
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It's nonsense.
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we were just talking about the
survey of sexual
proclivity of people in general, but especially
young people. They've also
just studied whether or not
our kids are getting involved
in, I guess, vices
like they used to.
Really interesting polling. Ryan Birch posted this, and I
think it's fascinating. Go back to
1976.
Yeah.
The percentage of
high school seniors that had consumed alcohol past a couple of sips.
Not like a sip you had once when you're a kid or something.
But like I've consumed alcohol in some way.
You've been drinking.
You've been drinking.
High school seniors.
That number in 1976 is 92%.
Wow.
I believe that though.
Really?
That was just the thing people did.
Yeah.
I mean, that's really high.
I wasn't a high school senior yet.
But I mean, there was a lot of drinking involved.
Yeah.
92%.
That number has fallen
quite a bit.
So by the mid-90s, it's down to
about 80%.
The number today,
53%
of high school seniors.
40 points?
Yeah, basically almost cut in half.
40%.
That's amazing.
Really amazing.
So 92% in the 70s
down to 53% today.
This is among high school seniors.
And smoking,
you might think,
okay, you know,
we've sort of
as a society changed our view on smoking to...
Big time.
In a big way.
So you'd expect this one to drop,
but it's dropped significantly.
In the 70s,
it was 76% of high school seniors were smokers or had been smoking.
That number now is 17%.
Wow, that's huge.
Really?
I mean, that's...
That's huge.
So there's a lot of news you could say is bad.
Those are really good positive trends.
Like you mentioned, though, society's really changed on smoking.
Yes.
You know, you're almost a pariah if you smoke.
Yeah.
And I mean, we changed the way like at restaurants.
I remember fighting this battle back in the early 2000s, late 90s, early 2000s about restaurants and whether you could smoke in a restaurant.
Yes, yeah.
I hated it so much.
But, you know, it was people's right.
Well, the restaurant's going to go into business.
No, they're not.
They don't sell cigarettes.
They sell food.
Right.
They're not going to go out of business.
And they didn't, by the way.
you might notice,
they didn't.
There are still restaurants.
I would argue from a personal liberty standpoint,
the business owners should be able to make the decisions themselves.
That being said,
I do really like when they make the decision of no smoking.
I do too.
I really do.
I don't think she'd come from the government.
A lot of municipalities did make that decision, though.
They did it.
They stuck with it.
We survived it.
Yeah.
And look,
and here we are now.
The only real line there, I think, as far as quote unquote,
going out of business,
is we're certain bars, you know, casinos, things like that.
They're not going to go to business, but like, you really are adding a lot to the people
who want to go in there and go to a smoky bar, maybe smoke, they want to smoke in a bar,
you're making them go out.
And if you're in, you know, one of the first cities that did this was New York City,
it's freaking cold there a good chunk of the year.
Like going outside and smoking sucks for these people.
Now, look, the attitude changed.
I think it would have changed anyway.
I think most businesses would have decided to.
make this decision over this period of time without the laws.
But I will say it's one of those laws that I don't like the way it happened, but I do like the effects of it.
Yeah, I don't like the smoke in the, in the area.
But the places that don't do that, like we went to a bowl game in Louisiana a couple years ago.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And what team was playing in it?
I'm trying to think.
Do you remember?
Was it the BYU Cougars?
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I'm surprised that you would go.
University of Alabama, Birmingham, gofers or whatever they are.
That's a game that everyone's been talking about for years.
When those two teams get together, you can throw all the record books.
Oh, yeah.
They don't need the record books in that situation.
But we were looking for a place to eat afterwards in the beautiful city,
the lovely city that we were in.
And they had the only place we could find that was available that we happened to be near was this casino.
So we went into it looking for a restaurant in the casino.
know, but this is where, you know, they smoke and they drink and it was so weird to go into a place
where there's still smoking involved and food involved.
I mean, the smoke flavored your food.
You could taste the smoke, but not necessarily the hamburger that you were eating.
Oh, man.
I mean, it's a different world.
It is.
And I do like the effect of the no smoking in restaurants, but you're right.
I mean, it did take away liberty.
It did.
From the bar owners and the restaurant owners.
Yeah, I agree.
So that's one of those situations where really society has just changed its view on it.
I mean, and people would bring up, well, what about vaping?
What about pot?
And those things obviously have increased from back in the vaping was at 0% in the 70s.
But it's only 26% now.
I mean, really the youth vaping epidemic.
kind of argument is a bit overblown.
It's a bit overblown.
It's a problem because it's largely a problem because vaping really is a product designed
to be a step off from smoking, right?
Like as a product, if you are a smoker and you switch to vaping, that is an improvement.
Some people will go, no, it's just as bad.
I don't agree.
Looking at all the science on it, I think it's an vast improvement.
So from the perspective of a smoker, switching to vaping, I think it is a really positive change, if you happen to be especially a heavy smoker.
If you were a child that does nothing and you go from nothing to vaping, that's not a good change at all.
So, but I mean, I would imagine, and this is not covered in the poll, that the percentage of people who have smoked highly overlaps with the people who have vaped.
Right?
This is not an additional 26%
Like the 26% of people who have
Vaped in the last year
are probably
I would say, I would argue
completely overlap with the
17% of people who smoke.
I mean, I just think that's just another thing
that's going on. Like so I don't think that
you're adding a few percent of people, but it's
I don't think it's highly significant.
By the way, 7% of high school seniors
say they've used heroin.
So that's a little high.
7%?
Have you,
Use heroin.
Heroin.
Wow.
No, I think about this sometimes, and I always think about it in the context of our friend Jeff Fisher,
a host of Chewing the Fat with Jeff, Jeffie, on your program as well.
I could not even begin to understand how to acquire heroin.
I would have absolutely.
Yeah, I think so, too.
But, like, if I wanted it, I would.
would have no idea how to get it.
Well, except you go to Jeffie.
I would go to, yeah, that would go to Jeff.
And you get some sage advice from him.
He would, yes, he would either hand it to me from his pocket or, or he would have, he would
know a guy.
Yeah.
But in all seriousness, like, I, I, you know, I'm, maybe that shows, uh, that I've
been, you know, coddled in life or whatever, but like, what they, not even begin to
understand.
Like, like, I, I, I, I, just just, do you just search the.
internet for something like that?
Like, do you go on...
Maybe the dark web?
The dark web?
Like, I know Silk Grove was a thing at one point.
Maybe.
Yeah, but like, can you imagine, can you imagine this scenario?
Let's just picture Pat Gray, driving around downtown Dallas is opening up windows.
Excuse me, sir.
Hey, you have any smack?
Do you know where the local heroin outlet would be located?
It's like you're doing basically the gray Poupon commercial, except you're looking for heroin?
You don't even know how to do it.
Like, I don't even know how these things happen.
No.
You know, I guess you get into that world and you meet somebody, you have a drug dealer, you got a guy who knows a guy.
Yeah.
But like, I don't, how does this stuff start?
I don't know.
Especially for 7% of young people like that?
Yeah, that's crazy.
Hard to believe that's 7%.
That's way too high.
That's way too high.
It should be basically zero.
I mean, heroin is, you think heroin is something you're,
escalating to.
Yeah.
Right?
Like you don't start out, forget.
You don't start out like Hunter Biden.
Right.
Like your first time with drugs is not crack off of a hooker.
Like that's not day one.
Like it takes you time to, I would assume even Hunter Biden in high school wasn't doing
crack.
Like you have to, it takes a lot of work to elevate to get to that level, right?
Yeah.
I would think so.
Yeah.
You know, they've always called pot like the starter drug, right?
Yeah.
Start with marijuana.
The gateway drug, right?
You get in and you start like, you get that for a while, then you get offered something else.
You give that a world.
That gets addictive.
Then you give the next thing a whirl.
Pretty soon you're dropping acid and mainlining heroin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But who, you don't, I mean, by the end of high school, you've already gotten this entire transition.
No, that's crazy.
That's a lot.
That's a life.
That's one.
Yeah.
That turns, I mean, I.
That's scary, really.
Legit scary.
For high school students.
Yeah.
That's scary.
The rest of those statistics are really good.
Yeah, really promising, I think.
That's, you know, we don't talk about that enough.
The positive changes among the youth.
I mean, for half is probably too many to be on alcohol.
But, I mean, it's not 92% anymore.
I know.
And look, half is, I mean, think about like, you know, fast times at Ridgemont High.
Go back to, like, you know, there's the cultural movies of that era.
It was just accepted.
Accepted it.
You're going to do it.
Yeah.
Like, every time you were alone on the weekend, that's what, I mean, I don't.
Yeah, I would think to myself, you know, watching that movie years ago, thought to myself, that was not my experience in high school.
Like, there were parties in high school, but like it was really, I don't remember, you know, I was also just probably not invited to them.
But like, it was not my impression at all that 80% of my class was drinking and senior year in high school.
I could be completely wrong on that.
Maybe I just, again, it definitely wasn't cool.
So it's very possible.
They intentionally did not invite me to such events.
But like the fast times at Ridgemont High, my impression of that,
well, it's like that was obviously an exaggeration of the situation.
I don't know.
Looking at these numbers, 92% of people were doing.
Maybe it wasn't that much of an exaggeration.
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It is Pat and Stu for Glenn today.
Let's go to Denise in Kansas.
Hey, Denise, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Patent.
to. Hey, good morning, boys.
Hey, I got to tell you something, with your, back in the 70s when we had like 90% of us
seniors that were drinking.
Yes.
You forget, we could drink at 18.
That is true.
We could go out and purchase three, two beer at 18.
Yeah.
So, and we had the 18 disco bars and all sorts of fun and stuff.
18 disco bars.
I remember those.
You make a very good point here, Denise.
And I appreciate.
it. I will say this. I don't know if kids cared that much when the drinking age went up to 21 to legally drink.
Right. I don't think there's. You just obtained it illegally. Right. And I will say this, looking at, looking at the stats, we have every year basically broken down. The age was changed in 1984. That's when that passed to raise the drinking age to 21 nationally. The drop off between 76 and 84 was about 4%. So it went from 92 to 88.
Okay. So it dissuaded 4% of kids.
And honestly, now that I'm looking at it a little more closely, I would say it did not drop.
In 84, there was no like, you'd think there'd be a big drop off in 1984 because it raised the age.
It did not drop off at all really until I'm looking at 1994.
It hit about 88.
So it was really above 90.
Yeah, until the mid-90s.
And then started falling off from there.
really the dramatic drop-off didn't really start until,
I mean, it was still above 75% all the way till 2005.
So the drop-off has been really, I mean, recently has been significant.
Now they're just addicted to like social media and eating tidepods.
So, you know, the interests have changed quite a bit, Pat.
I wonder if it is, social media has anything to do with it.
Yeah, maybe.
I don't know.
I mean, I do think there, and I think this.
was something I remember from my childhood being that there was sort of a there was a countercultural
element of not drinking that was active at least in my school and in my friend group that was like
these losers are going out drinking I'm not doing that we're you know we're just sports nerds
like all we wanted to do is play sports all the time so there was a bit of that that was going on
and I do see that now much more when it comes to social media there's a lot of this like you know
sober January type stuff and a lot of people going without alcohol.
It's become a sort of countercultural trend among a lot of people in their 20s and 30s
who are just like, I'm not doing this anymore.
For health reasons or also just because like, I mean, what are the benefits?
I will say, like, especially as you get older and I all have a few drinks here and there,
I feel so terribly now when I drink or after when I drink that like it's so, it's just the desire
to do it at this point.
It's just very low.
Yeah.
You know, occasionally I have a group of friends.
We'll go out and have a couple of drinks.
I'm not saying, you know, I abstain.
I wouldn't say I'm going to enter the Prohibition Party nomination process at any time soon,
which, by the way, is still a real party.
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Wow.
Fascinating, fascinating story that we don't have time to get into at this point.
But the bottom line is, I think, you know, over time, unless you're really dedicated to it,
it winds up fading out of your life because it just gets harder.
You know, anything that's difficult I want to stop doing.
You know, there's this movement on the right, especially where it's like, you know,
the hard thing is the thing worth doing.
And that's great for other people.
But for me, I totally agree.
Hard times make hard men and hard men, you know, make easy times and all that stuff.
I agree with that whole thing.
I just kind of want to sit on the side and sleep a little bit.
That's beautiful.
It's beautifully put.
I think you're an inspiration to us all, Stu.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
It's bursting with inspiration right now.
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You know, I've been critical at times in the past of Alex Jones and some of the things that he has said.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't remember.
It's happened a few times.
Really?
Yeah.
It's happened.
However, what's going on?
with him right now. If this is absolutely accurate, you know, the federal government trying to shut him down,
he did this emergency broadcast last Saturday and said that the feds were there to shut him down. He had to
spend the night at the studio. I don't know how this stopped him from shutting him down,
but apparently he spent the night at his studio so that they wouldn't. I'm not sure how it all worked.
No, we should have full disclosure. You guys are buddies now.
Buddies. Yeah, we're very close. You're like this. You're tight.
You had him on the show, though, actually.
I did have him on the show.
Yeah, I had him on the whole show.
Oh, really?
Yeah, a couple weeks ago.
It's probably been a month or so by now, but it was fascinating.
And so I am a little bit stunned that, I mean, first of all, he got kicked off of almost all his forums, right?
He was knocked off of YouTube.
All social media.
Yeah, he was stopped on Twitter, which Elon Musk.
just reversed barely recently.
But he still had Info Wars, and now he says they're trying to shut that down.
Well, now he's apparently agreed to sell it and then take the proceeds from that sale
and pay down the debt that he owes to the Sandy Hook family.
Now, he owes a few dollars to them.
A couple of dollars.
$100, $200?
Ever so slightly north of that.
Okay.
1.5 billion dollars is so stupid.
Well, it's unconstitutional.
It's unconstitutional to hit somebody with a fine like that,
with a judgment like that.
It's assinine.
Under what?
And it's insane and it's unconstitutional.
Cruel and unusual punishment, basically.
Right.
Right.
I mean, you can't find a guy who has made, I don't know what he's made in his life.
He told me on the air.
He's never made more than, I don't know, a few million dollars.
Which is good money.
Oh, yeah. Right? But he's not a billionaire.
No, no, he's not even close to that.
He's nowhere near. He's not a hundred millionaire.
No.
There's no way he's got the kind of money that they just assessed to him.
He can't pay a fine of one and a half billion dollars.
It's stupid. And everyone, everyone knows.
Everybody knows it.
Now, of course, the goal was never to collect the money.
No, it's to shut him down.
Shut him down and destroy him.
I mean, really, he was one of the first test cases for the lawfare approach when it comes to going
after someone who you have distaste for in the media, right?
He really was.
And it seems to be working.
Yeah.
Now, look, he's admitted that he's made major mistakes in this realm.
Yeah.
He's talked about them.
And I think he did.
I don't know why he thought that the Sandy Hook thing was a hoax.
I don't either.
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe he's changed on this, but at that period, he believed everything was a hoax.
It felt like.
Every single big story that came out, he had some.
justification as to why the government did it.
And, you know, like, this was his schick.
It was his business.
And I can understand,
especially if you...
I didn't like what he was saying.
No.
But does he have the right to say it?
And beyond this, this is a separate thing.
The justification for him being
shut down, being fined a billion dollars
or whatever is basically
the very real
mental
torture, these
poor families were put through after this.
And hang with me for a second on this because there's this.
I'm starting this off saying this because it is really legitimately real that these
families were tortured online by people who believe this was a hoax.
If you've ever read the stuff said to them, the stuff that's happened to them at their
homes, how many times they've had to move.
Like, they legitimately went through hell after going through.
the worst day any parent has ever gone through.
Like, I, the amount of sympathy I have for these families is incredibly high.
It's immense for me too.
I mean, I think it is among the worst things that's ever happened in this country, the Sandy Hook Day.
And do you blame Alex Jones for that?
No.
Right.
He did not shoot anyone this day.
Right.
And while he was-
Nor did he call the families and harassed them.
No.
Right.
Like, yes, he went on the air and gave theories and did anything.
interviews with people who believed it was fake.
And should any moron been able to tell that he was wrong on that from day one?
Sure.
I think so.
I don't think it would have been hard and was hard for either of us or probably 99% of the audience to figure out that, you know, yeah, that was a really terrible day.
Again, to bring you back there a little bit, this is, these are what, seven-year-olds?
I mean, it is among the worst things.
And I know, I really like, and I maybe it's because especially when, when a lot of this was, a lot of the aftermath was going on with this, I had kids around that age. I mean, they're a little older now. But like, the idea that you send your kids to school in an idyllic community and some person steals, kills their mom, first of all, then steals their weapons, goes to school, really not like, you know, an insane person goes to school and shoots them all. I mean, I, I
I can't.
It's beyond comprehension how terrible this is.
And then for what the internet does to take this and turn this into a conspiracy theory and to, you know, to be furthered and talked about by Alex Jones, something he's apologized for is really, really bad.
However, Alex Jones didn't call these people and harass them.
Alex Jones didn't do those things.
Right.
He didn't do them.
People should be held responsible for their own actions.
the people who should be sued.
Well, but they heard him say it on the air.
I'm sorry.
I hear all sorts of things on the air.
Am I to be held responsible for every lie that I hear on the mainstream media?
If I act on every BS thing the mainstream media says,
is that my fault or is that their fault?
It's my fault.
I'm an individual.
I make these decisions myself.
Every human being knows harassing a family who,
even if you think,
they're lying.
You can't harass people.
It's illegal.
It's a crime.
And I never hear a bit of interest from the media.
I'm sure these families would love to know who was harassing them.
But I never hear a bit of interest from the media to find the people who actually made the calls,
who actually care, or actually doing the harassing.
I never hear word of interest about that.
It's all about this guy who, in a.
addition to all of this.
And look, I will admit to not being a daily Alex Jones listener or ever.
But I don't think this was his main thing.
It's not like he was on the air every day talking about Sandy Hook.
I don't, I, he was doing that about 9-11.
I would assume 9-11 victims would have a much better case against him than
than do Sandy Hook victims.
from what I understand reading about the story,
he talked about it a few times
because it was a big story in his world.
But like it wasn't the main thrust of his show.
No, I don't think it was.
I don't think he was the main source of these rumors.
I don't think he was the main source of these claims.
I think he entertained things
that he absolutely should have known were false.
But like a billion and a half dollars,
it's insanity.
It is.
It's insanity.
And the fact that they just,
Look, they wanted this guy shut down for a bunch of different reasons,
and they've utilized this path of lawfare to do it.
And I don't know.
I mean, look at, obviously Donald Trump is the most recent example that is in everybody's mind.
I think quite clearly a lot of the same tactics were used here.
And I don't know.
I think now it's going to start coming from both sides.
I don't think opening up this Pandora's box was a good idea.
No, probably not.
Probably not.
And I think he'd take it back if he could.
He said that a little late.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One of the lawyers in the case, one of the lawyers for the families said this about the judgment.
Speech is free, but lies you have to pay for.
That's not accurate.
I mean, there are some levels of light, but it's not true.
I mean, if you're telling a lie about this, and first of all, you have to define what is the lie here?
Did he believe this at the time?
And I think he did.
I think he believed it at the time.
I don't think he does anymore.
Yeah.
But at the time, I think he believed it.
So is that a lie at the time?
Right.
Like, is it illegal to just be an idiot?
I mean, I mean, I mean this sincerely.
Like, if you believe everything is a false flag and you, you believe everything is a false flag and you, you,
you get fooled by something on the internet that you now have been turned around on.
Yeah.
And no longer believe is true.
Yeah.
I mean, the thing about free speech is that you don't have to protect lovely speech.
Right.
Yeah.
That's everybody agrees.
That's fine.
Yeah.
That's free.
What comes in, what makes it really hard is when somebody's saying something you don't like.
Yeah.
Like this.
Right.
And something that's actually, you know, hurtful.
people. Do you have the right to say it? Do you have the right, I mean, as long as you're not
threatening them, making terroristic threats, do you have the right to say it? I mean,
that's what we have to, those are hard choices, but that's what the, that's what the First
Amendment is about. Yeah. And look, you should be able to, I mean, this is, I, again, I think this is
one of the worst things that's ever happened in the country. I can't think of a worst day.
It's terrible. You know, obviously, we've had terrorist attacks and civil war and it's, you know,
slavery, there's a hundred things that would compete.
But it's talking about an individual horrible incident of waking up one day and going through that.
So it's beyond impossibly horrific.
And to add onto that, the fact that you have to go through years of harassment over it,
as if you were faking your own kids.
I can't imagine how horrible that must be.
That being said, the American people, some broadcaster,
has the right to be wrong about it.
Right?
Like, I, again, I mean,
and that's what it boils down to.
He was wrong.
He was wrong.
He was wrong.
He was wrong. He was wrong.
And again, going back, if I remember right, correct me if I'm wrong on this, Pat.
I hope I don't get sued for being wrong.
But correct me if I'm wrong,
most of the stuff on this particular incident was stuff he had people on who believed it
and interviewed them over it.
And maybe he didn't give much of a pushback.
I don't know.
You know, but like
And let
The person who gets legal
penalties for this are the people who
freaking did the harassing.
You know, just like, you can't just
sue the gun companies for people who go shoot
people. You hold
people responsible for the crimes
they commit.
When they commit crimes, hold them responsible.
You can't just say, well, I...
What a concept. Can you imagine
what could we have said about, like Steve
Scalise was shot and they tried to kill, kill 10% of elected Republicans on a baseball field one day.
And this person who did it was a Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer.
Okay?
I know we've all memory hold this incident.
But the stuff that led up to the person doing that that was in both the mainstream media,
but also on places like MSNBC and every left.
podcast that would drive a person to the level where they went to kill every Republican
on a baseball field they could find.
Are you sure you want this world?
You sure?
You want a world in which every broadcaster that made a claim that we find in that
person's social media feed later on gets blamed for it?
How can you talk about anything?
How could there be any news broadcast in a world?
where that's reality.
And like they're just taking a person like Alex Jones and being like, oh, well, he's crazy and
we really don't like him.
Same thing with Donald Trump.
Yeah, well, no, we don't want that world.
But Donald Trump's really bad.
We don't want him to be president again.
So it's justified.
No, it's not.
He posts mean tweets, though.
He posts mean tweets.
We don't like him.
We don't want that thing.
So the Constitution doesn't matter.
We don't want it really badly.
We really don't want it.
You have to understand we don't want that thing to happen.
Like, that's not enough.
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A couple of interesting people in the news right now.
Alex Jones being one of them.
The other is Russell Brand.
Am I mistaken in remembering that Russell Brand
was a super obnoxious leftist, almost to the point of like socialist and like a despicable human being.
Was he not?
Do I remember that incorrectly?
You do not.
In my recollection is very similar.
He is a guy who's done a complete 180, it seems, right?
Yeah.
I mean, not just politically, but also apparently spiritually, he was just baptized.
I guess he just, he's Christian now.
and a fairly newly minted Christian,
but sounds like he's really sincere about that.
I don't know.
I hope it's all sincere.
But he just said, if you care about democracy,
I don't know how you could do anything other than vote for Donald Trump.
That is amazing to me.
That's incredible.
Was this guy not huge into Obama?
Yeah.
I mean, it was just a few years ago, right?
Wasn't he married to Katie Perry?
I think he was.
Yes.
I think so.
Married her.
Left wing person.
He was very,
very left.
Now,
I don't know.
I mean, I think,
you know,
there.
What happened there?
How did this happen?
Well,
I mean,
his life has been taken
and turned upside down,
right?
I mean,
and his career has been destroyed.
I mean,
it's been completely destroyed.
Now,
you could argue he's done
some things to justify that.
I mean,
he was certainly a Me Too era victim.
He, of course,
I don't know,
he's the word.
victims a little weird there because I'm just saying it because he believes that he was he says
he was he denied all charges on that one he denies doing anything against anybody's will right
yes he says he was very promiscuous he did some things he regrets he treated people poorly
yeah but he did not do anything illegal now of course the accusations against him were very much
of illegal behavior um he he was very much accused of terrible terrible things um you know
including all the way up to rape.
So.
Oh,
wow.
So,
but he denies that.
I,
do I,
I don't know.
And he hasn't been convicted of anything, right?
Nope.
I don't think he's even been charged.
Has he even been charged?
He was,
he was,
he was accused of it.
He was brief rundown of the accusations against him.
He said he,
he raped one woman in,
in her Los Angeles,
uh,
in his Los Angeles home.
Another claimed he sexually assaulted her after she was hired by him on a project.
Third woman claimed she was groomed by
Brand when she was just 16 before he forced oral sex on her.
Fourth accuser claimed that Brand sexually assaulted and committed physical and emotional abuse
against her.
So that's at least part of it.
There's been others that have come out with varying versions of this.
There was a lot of stuff.
Now, he of course denies it and we don't know.
We don't know.
The 16 year old one does, if my, again, I'm going to say my recollectioner, I'm not
100% sure of this.
My recollection of this is he basically did, it can, there was a relationship.
with someone that young.
Now, she claims other things happen.
I don't know.
It's 16.
If there's a, I don't know what the laws are in Britain for the consent.
To me, it doesn't seem like 16's really old enough to consent.
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We were talking about
Russell Brand
and
And whether
his transformation
is 180 degree
turn here
Is that real or is it just what he's doing because, you know, he lost his livelihood the other way and now this is a good way to make up for it?
I don't know.
It's fascinating because his political transformation, I would say, predates the Me Too sort of tear down of his career.
Right?
Does it?
A little bit.
I think he became sort of like anti, like great reset.
And he was talking about that type of stuff before all of these accusations happen.
And then his accusations happened is his career really is destroyed.
He gets kicked off of all the social media stuff, the whole deal.
And then he later on has this sort of awakening to Christianity.
Now, like, I think there's a cynical worldview to take, to an earthly.
leave you from a cynical perspective to say that like, okay, this guy went from having everything to
having nothing and this is all very convenient, right? Like now that he's in this place where he has
no audience anymore because everyone who used to like him now hates him, he could come out
and say, oh, now I'm voting for Trump and now I'm a Christian and all of these things. I really,
really hesitate to embrace that view, particularly on the Christianity thing, because
like miracles are possible. This is the most commonplace they would be seen, I believe.
I mean, like someone, so I, I, I really hope it's true. Like, I really, I really hope it's a real
conversion and I don't have any reason to believe otherwise. You know, I mean, there's a cynical
humanity part of you that has to like think about that stuff when someone has this big of
a conversion, but like people really do have these conversions. This is, this is not a story.
that's been told once.
He'll probably never be in another Hollywood movie.
Yeah, that's over.
Again, right?
So that's over.
I mean, they're,
they got to be done with him.
Yep.
I mean,
and look,
talking about Trump like this.
Yeah.
Oh,
that's.
And,
but that's brand new,
even just at some level.
Like,
the political stuff sort of started happening,
but he was still like one of those guys that's a liberal,
but I'm against wokeness.
Like, he was like that type of guy for a while.
Yes.
I remember that aspect.
Yeah.
I remember that phase.
And I don't remember a pro-Trump thing really happening until now.
Right.
reasonably.
Yeah.
The Christianity thing, I think, is the most interesting because that is something that obviously
I mean, mass murderers have had conversions and had their lives changed this way.
They have.
And I mean, terrorists, when we've talked to people who were former terrorists.
You absolutely believe in this.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
To doubt it, I guess, is legitimate.
But who are we to doubt it?
Right.
It's also obviously been happening.
and not been true before.
People have faked it from sympathy.
And that's obviously happened, but that's on them.
That's on us.
Right.
That's on them.
Right.
To deal with the consequences of doing something like that, which I might tell you is not
a good idea long term.
Here's what he said about it.
People are so cynical about the increasing interest in Christianity and the return
to God.
But to me, it's obvious.
As meaning deteriorates in the modern world, as our value systems and institutions crumble,
all of us become increasingly.
aware that there is this eerily familiar awakening and beckoning figure that we've all known
all our lives within us and around us.
It's great.
I think that's great.
And look, it's true.
And it's powerful.
It is.
Coming from a person who forget the worst of the accusations, which are massively criminal,
by his own admission, he's done a million terrible things.
For a person who can come from that and be saved to use that term,
is incredible. That's great. It's freaking great. And I really hope it's real and honest and
lasts forever and no reason to believe it isn't. I mean, you see the, I mean, you can do this without a
political.
Well, you could be cynical and you could see reason that it might not be because he, you know,
yes. He could be trying to convince us that, oh, he's had this amazing transformation to
Christianity and now he's no longer, he would never do any of these things now.
Right. And of course, like, he's.
He, we are on the right, and I'm sure this doesn't apply to you who happens to be listening,
but we are on the right a bit desperate for celebrity attention.
It's a little embarrassing.
Give us somebody other than Donnie and Marie.
Please.
By all that is holy, can you give us somebody?
We'll take basically anybody.
We'll take Russell Brand, give him to us.
Russell Brand is like, I mean, shooting for the stars a lot of times.
I mean, like, at least this.
We're like, hey, wait, this person.
person was a child star and a forgotten sitcom in 1978. We love that person. He's on
he's on Fox News 14 times a day. Like we are a little pathetic when it comes to this.
And I, but you can't blame us. We got nobody. We got nobody. I mean, very few. Very few.
And usually the, you know, there's a lot of the people that, you know, you wind up, even the big ones that wind up, a lot of times it's after they have major problems. You find out that they're conservatives.
You know what I mean? Like, you know, I could come up with some names, but I'll leave them off for now.
bottom line is that like a lot of times there's this sort of like everyone knows that people
who are conservative are targeted unfairly so if you are targeted and you believe it's unfairly who's
going to receive your argument a lot of times it's conservatives who are going to be like oh well
this has this happened to me it's happened to my friend who's a totally good guy and and made one
joke and was you know thrown out of his job like we all have such close relationship that
relationship to that, we relate very sincerely to it.
And, you know, we've all seen what's happened with Donald Trump, who again is, you know,
he's done some things that, you know, you might not like.
But the way that they have manipulated the legal system to try to take him out before his presidential run is something that every conservative
aligns with him on.
I think it's helped on an enthusiasm situation for a lot of Republicans who are like, really another.
I mean, I think people are, they get to a point where they get tired of fighting these battles.
You know, I think there's a good, there's a decent appetite.
We saw it even in the primaries where more than half of voters in those early primaries
didn't vote for Donald Trump, right?
Like there's some appetite for people, not because they don't like Trump, but just because
they want to move on to something else, you know?
And I think there was that appetite at some level, not enough to, for him to lose, but there
was some appetite for that.
when you see things like this where they're trying to throw them in prison
and totally just manipulated lawfare,
it winds up bringing people back to the fold.
Yeah.
As we're talking about, though, transitions.
Yeah.
And people changing right before our eyes.
And fairly quickly,
how do you feel about John Fetterman lately?
It's one of the strangest things I've ever...
It's really, I mean, this guy, I didn't like at all.
No.
And I still wouldn't vote for him.
No, no, no, no, no.
But his transition from, you know, hardcore progressive to where he is today has been pretty interesting, I think.
The other thing that's happening is it seems that his mental capacity is improving.
He doesn't struggle as much with, you know,
just putting sentences together. That's great.
And that's great. So his health is improving.
Yes, his health is improving. And I will say I was it. We've called it a factory reset on my show.
It's like after the stroke, he had a factory reset in his brain and it's changed his mind on some issues.
Interesting.
Now, he's not voting that way. So I especially would not vote for him because he continues to vote as a leftist with the party.
But the things he is saying, and he's taken a position on, for instance,
immigration that is much closer aligned to conservatives than than to Democrats. Also, Israel,
man, he's been one of the strongest voices in Congress on Israel. He's been great on that.
It's been awesome. Shockingly. Yeah, he's been shockingly good. So he was just being interviewed on CNN,
and he was asked about being a progressive. Here's what he said.
I want to ask you personally about your own sort of journey, as the kids say.
Some progressives have criticized you for being a different senator than you suggested you would be when you were a candidate for Senate.
What do you say to that?
Well, I wasn't.
I was very clear for saying that for years, I'm not a progressive.
And I just identified myself as just a regular Democrat.
it really wasn't any new news. Now, eight years ago, I was a progressive, but the situations
change, and I've been very clear that I didn't leave that label. That label leaves me, and I think
it's much more important to be focusing on Donald Trump instead of, you know, kinds of purity
tests and those kinds of issues. All right. So not totally well, because progressivism, he didn't
leave progressivism. Progressivism
leave me.
So, okay, he's not completely well as far as the speech thing.
But that's a lot better than he was doing. That's for sure.
So progressivism left him.
I think what happens to him, to maybe Bill Maher, to some of these other people that we've
noticed a sort of change in rhetoric in over the last few years is that the left has become
so extreme that there are certain people who just wake up one morning and they can't go down
that road any further with them. They're like, okay, this is, this is too much for me. I can't do it.
Yeah. It's happened to several. I mean, like, Fetterman, his record as a, I mean, his on record
words really did indicate that he was maybe a socialist. Like, I mean, he was really, really far.
Seems like even during the campaign, which was what, 22. Yeah. Wasn't he elect?
I think he was elected in 22.
Now, he's saying there was a transition before that eight years ago.
That's what he says.
I don't know if that's true.
I do remember just going through his record being like, well, this guy's not even a normal Democrat.
Yeah.
I did not think he was a normal Democrat.
I didn't either.
Now, to be clear here, and to your point on the voting record,
Heritage Action for America has a scorecard.
So a conservative voting record scorecard.
The average Senate Democrat gets a 6% from them.
And John Federman has a 7%.
So that is this sort of hardcore right-wing movement.
we're talking about here.
So the guy is essentially a John Bircher at this point.
Right?
Like this, I think the difference, it's interesting because the difference between Federman
what we thought we were going to get and what we got is not really in the way that he is voting.
No, it's in the way that he's dealing with, he's speaking to the press and things, especially
on Israel.
And I appreciate that a lot.
And look, if you can get one good issue out of a Democrat, you celebrate it.
Yes.
It's very rare that it occurs.
And I'll take those two.
I'll take it on immigration.
I'll take it on Israel because Israel is under such fire right now that they can take any friend they can get.
And he's been really strong.
Despite all the opposition, we've had the, we've played clips of him being followed through the halls of the Congress by left-wing idiots who support Hamas,
yelling and screaming at him about why he supports genocide.
and he stands up to him.
Yep.
So you believe the Russell Brand conversion story?
I think so.
Yeah.
I think so.
I'm going to say yes.
Yes.
But I'm...
I think so.
I'm hoping so.
I hope it's real.
I do believe, because I think you're right.
I think the political transition happened before.
And I just...
Who am I to question is spiritual transition?
Exactly.
Yep.
So do you believe the Federman transition?
On these two issues?
yes. And the two issues are border and Israel and Israel. Israel, I believe. I'm not 100% sure I believe
on the border. I think it's real on Israel though. I think that's real. Now again, Democrats used to be
pretty supportive of Israel. At least some of them were. So he's not out of nature. The Jewish Democrats
were, but they don't seem to be now. Yep. So I don't know. Good for him. Yeah. It's an interesting
thing. I will say shocking. The amount of times that we've featured John Federman
positively on this program, shocking. Shocking. Absolutely. More.
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