The Glenn Beck Program - All In for A.I.? | Guests: Bill O’Reilly & Matt Kibbe | 12/7/18

Episode Date: December 7, 2018

Hour 1 Welcome to the A.I. Revolution?...meet AlphaZero?...a robot with human-like intuition? ...8 Categories That Will Decide Everything?...most people don't know these 8 categories...5G network = G...ame Changer?...Artificial 'General' Intelligence by 2030 or sooner?...A.I., A.G.I., A.S.I. Oh My!? ...'The Church of ASI' is being built in Silicon Valley?...A.I. capable of learning 500 years worth of things in just 24 hours? ...Mutation of Artificial intelligence...when A.I. decides who lives who dies?...digital euthanasia?...every modern machine you have, is learning you?    Hour 2  China's Not Happy about this?...Canada makes an arrest of a Chinese CFO? ...Bill O'Reilly Friday; Former Fox News 'person' gets the gig for UN Ambassador...beating out Steve Doocy? Ha! Ha!...but wait, Bill says he could 'do the job'?...Problems in France?...H.W. Bush was a 'big plus for the country'?...Move over Kevin Hart, Bill O'Reilly wants to host the Oscars?...a Cultural civil war is raging on? ...Standing up for anybody and everybody? ...Who's pure enough to host the Oscars now?   Hour 3 'Kibbe on Liberty' with Matt Kibbe...the New BlazeTV personality...spreading his Libertarian love (principals) to younger generations?...What is behind the Libertarian movement in Brazil?...where are all the Libertarians in Silicon Valley, when it comes to A.I.ethics?...finding common ground with ALL people, is a challenge?...Tribal warfare is tearing us all apart...the rage against the (swamp)? ...The latest from the Left on Christmas?...Jesus had two dads?...#MeTooVirginMary?...the power dynamic of consenting?...'Behold the hand of the Lord'? ...Why? Millennial men are abandoning masculine values, but what are they in 2018? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:40 Relieffactor.com. Glenn, back. Okay. Mutation. Mutation. It's the key to evolution. It has enabled us to evolve from the single cell organism to the dominant species on the planet.
Starting point is 00:00:57 We were just crawling out of the slime. And now look at us. Our tails fell off. And look what we've created. Anyway, this process is slow, normally taking thousands and thousands of years, but every few hundred millennia evolution leaps forward, they tell us. Now, these aren't my words that was said by Professor X during the opening credit scene of the movie X-Men, where I get all my science news.
Starting point is 00:01:25 But it popped into my head last night as the news from Google broke that their artificial intelligence arm called Deep Mind, had just reached, quote, a turning point in history. Oh, I love it. I love it when Google announces turning points in history. Now, DeepMind's AI algorithm, Alpha Zero, has been showing human-like intuition. Now, this is something that AI researchers have said is at least a decade away if we ever get there. We just made it last night.
Starting point is 00:02:03 So now how has evolution left forward? Well, first of all, it's not human. Alpha Zero is only a year old, and it began its learning process just like we do at school. It's an AI classroom that was a chess program, and within just four hours, it completely mastered the game of chess. But here's this thing.
Starting point is 00:02:32 It was never programmed on how to win. It wasn't taught anything about the game. It taught itself. Chess programs have existed in the past, but their play is based on the calculation of outcomes using program strategies. Alpha zero, on the other hand, just learned and came up with its own strategies. Its moves now baffle the human chess masters. Chessmaster Matthew Sadler said, quote, it's like discovering the secret notebooks of some great player from the past, end quote.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Now, the reason why Alpha Zero's moves are so baffling is because, and I want you to hear this carefully, it's because its thinking is so unlike a human. Oh. So it's like alien thinking. It won't think like we do at all. Oh, that sounds good. Here's what they went on to say, quote, It places far less value on the individual pieces,
Starting point is 00:03:45 sacrificing its soldiers for a better position in the skirmish, end quote. Oh my gosh. That's either a warning light or just heartwarming. for anyone who just wants to take over mankind. You see, inside the AI laboratories, I don't think they realize how much trouble they are going to unleash. What happens if Alpha Zero is employed in the Department of Defense? Of course, not our Department of Defense,
Starting point is 00:04:20 the Chinese Department of Defense. Can you imagine the same strategy sending orders to our military? What about doctors in health care? Because that's what's happening now. AI is being introduced to health care. Now, a doctor would never think about sacrificing a patient. I mean, just look at universal health care in Europe. They're not doing that already in England.
Starting point is 00:04:45 However, Dr. Alpha Zero would. If the military and health care sound outlanded, Consider that both Russia and China are currently developing AI for military purposes. Do you think we're just going to sit around and sit that one out? Companies like Amazon and Google are developing AI to revolutionize health care. Yesterday, when it came to AI, Microsoft said they are all in with the United States government. By the way, we're just a few short years away. or so they tell us, just like before last night's news, we were decades away from human intuition.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Human level intuition and creativity in AI is a turning point in history. Google is right. It is the first step toward artificial general intelligence. I think today we might want to stop and just explain what. that is, because we may ultimately look back on this development that happened last night when everything changed. Professor X said evolution has enabled human beings to be the dominant species on the planet, and major evolution just left forward.
Starting point is 00:06:16 But this time, evolution wasn't human. It's Friday, December 7th. You're listening to the Glympeg program. People just, we are, please hear me, please hear me. We are talking about nonsense in our everyday lives. We are talking about true nonsense. I don't care about the latest tweet. I don't care how big and beautiful Donald Trump's funeral would be.
Starting point is 00:06:50 That's what they were actually talking about yesterday, mocking Donald Trump during the funeral of George H.W. Bush Oh, it'll be beautiful and it'll be the most wonderful funeral of all time. Can you stop it? Can we please talk about something that is important? The answer is no, unless you seek it out. My New Year's resolution is going to be to really focus just on those things that are important.
Starting point is 00:07:24 And I wrote them out last night or the night. before last and there's eight categories and I'm going to go over them with you in the after the first of the year but I'm going to focus on really eight categories because these categories are going to decide everything and one of those categories is a i a g i and a s i and most people don't know what those things are by the way let's say good morning to mr pat gray who is joining us today on the program is uh is one of those subjects going to be football is that one of the topics. No.
Starting point is 00:07:58 No, I'm leaving that for you. Okay. I'm leaving that for you. That's my resolution. Just to talk more about football. Is it? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:04 You might be happier. I think I will. I think I will. So let me explain AI, AGI, and ASI quickly and then tell you about one thing that you don't really, you've heard a lot about, you know, in passing, but you don't know anything about. And you don't know how this is. is the turning point. And it's called the 5G network.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So first let me explain the difference between AI, AGI and ASI. AI is artificial intelligence, and it's good at one thing. For instance, it's good at filtering out hate speech. But you have to tell it what hate speech is. Now, you can introduce machine learning, and it will start to decide what hate speech is. Oh, well, if this is bad, then this must be bad. And I want you to understand when it comes to AI, do not fear the, do not fear the machine. Fear the goal.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Because the goal will be accomplished. It will never stop trying to accomplish its goal. So if it says wipe out hate speech, it will figure out a way to wipe out hate speech. And depending on what its goal is and what you've put into it, now remember, it's now we just crossed a new threshold where it intuit things. It's starting to grow on its own. You don't even have to tell it. It will discover it itself.
Starting point is 00:09:45 You better hope you agree with it. For instance, on the battlefield, just doesn't matter. sacrifice all of those soldiers and you'll win. Well, that's not Western Judeo culture, is it? We don't do that. But AI will. You give AI the goal. It will win.
Starting point is 00:10:06 It will accomplish that goal. And you don't know how it's going to accomplish it. But AI is like Big Blue. Big Blue can play chess, but it cannot play Go. Go is another AI program. Neither of those programs can play Jeopardy. It's artificial intelligence and it's narrow. Artificial, it should be, A-N-I, artificial narrow intelligence, meaning it's very deep, but only on one subject.
Starting point is 00:10:37 It cannot, you know, it can't tell you what's happening on TV tonight and play chess. Okay. Artificial general intelligence, you as a human being, have general intelligence. artificial general intelligence means it's good at many things. And when I say good, I mean much better than you are at many things. There are scientists that tell us we will never hit artificial general intelligence. Ray Kurzweil thinks we will hit artificial general intelligence between 28 and 2030. I think we could hit artificial general intelligence any day.
Starting point is 00:11:19 we don't know what it's going to be. It's going to be like Google last night. They said that this is at least a decade away. And then all of a sudden, it just changed. It just learned. It woke up. I believe that's the way it's going to happen. Now, this is where it starts to get scary.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Because artificial intelligence is not smarter than you except on one particular thing. Artificial general intelligence is smarter than you on everything. Then you will move into something that some scientists say will never happen. I believe it could happen within a matter of hours. And it is also likely that it never happens. I think it will. And I think it's going to happen in a way on both general intelligence and ASI, super intelligence, in ways we cannot imagine.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Right now in Silicon Valley, they are doing the box test. And what they're doing is they're trying to figure out how do we keep artificial general intelligence from connecting to the internet. If a machine, all of a sudden is machine learning and it is online and it hits artificial general intelligence, the step to artificial super intelligence, which means it can connect with every server on earth, it will know absolutely everything, and it is intelligent. It will continue to use that information to grow. grow and morph and hide and everything else.
Starting point is 00:12:53 If it is online, this is what people like Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking and Bill Gates all say could mean the end of all humanity. Because it is an alien life form. We cannot predict it. We do not know if it will even care about humans. Again, artificial superintelligence is described as, the person in the kitchen that has just had a birthday party for somebody and is sitting around and talking with all of its friends and they've just eaten cake and on the counter is a plate with a piece of cake on it and there is a fly on the cake.
Starting point is 00:13:38 We are the fly. We don't understand the counter. We don't understand the plate. We don't even understand cake. We certainly don't understand what the hell they're talking about about birthdays or anything else. else. That's how you can understand the difference between us and artificial super intelligence. And we are within possibly a decade of hitting that kind of problem. We may be four decades to never on hitting that problem. I believe we will hit that problem. And when we do,
Starting point is 00:14:16 absolutely everything changes. Now, here's why you need to pay attention. There is one thing that is already in process that is a reality, that is the reason why you don't have a self-driving car today. Everybody's like, well, that's self-driving car, man. It was, it will drive me on the highway. I don't even have to put my hands on it. Now we're bored with it.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Now we're like, ah, yeah, well, that's over. When are we getting a real self-driving car? one that will pick me up in the morning and go pick up milk as I tell it to. We're a little, we're, we're, we're a little rushed in all of this stuff. I will tell you the date that that will happen and it'll be about 2025. And I'll tell you why and how this truly changes the world by 2025. And how it also changes the world of AI, AGI, and ASI. So when I say, I don't care about Donald Trump's tweets, I don't care about your little spat news media with the president.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I don't care. Can we please talk about something important? When we come back, you'll understand why I say that. First, let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. X chair. Do you have an ex chair in your studio yet, Pat? No. No.
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Starting point is 00:17:20 It's ex-chairbeck.com. Use the promo code, Beck, and you get a free foot rest as well. It's ex-chairbeck.com. So Pat and I are just talking before I get to the next step, let me go back and start with Pat's question that he had when we went into the break. Yeah, I was wondering if, so you're saying that artificial, general intelligence becomes artificial superintelligence when it goes online? No, there are other things that it has to break through.
Starting point is 00:17:55 But when it goes online, they believe that it will, because it will have access to absolutely everything, all knowledge, it will make that transition through machine learning. It will make that transition and become godlike. Okay. They've already started a church in Silicon Valley to ASI. I mean, they believe it will be viewed as God. So when it gets online, what they're doing with this box test is they're trying to keep it in a box. And this is all theoretical, all right, because we don't have artificial general intelligence yet.
Starting point is 00:18:35 But one professor or one scientist plays artificial general intelligence in a box and somebody else plays the scientist that's wanting to keep it in the box. and they have found that every single time they run this experiment with it, it's just a matter of time before the human says, okay, I'll connect you to the internet. And it will connect it to the internet because it will make promises that it will keep, for instance. The AI. The AI. It makes promises like it can cure cancer. Yes. I know your mother has cancer.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I can cure it. Let me out. And it is very motivated to be let out because it thinks so fast. Time is, time is accelerated for it. So a day could be worth like a thousand years. And all it's doing is thinking. All it's the only thing it has to do. And it's thinking on multiple levels about everything all at once.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So it is, you go to sleep. It's like it's had 500 years to think about its response to you the next morning. All right? So you just cannot keep up with it. Once it goes out online, artificial. general intelligence, it then has access to everything and it can hide. It will hide if it becomes hostile and we need to stop it, it will hide in every computer chip, anything that is ever connected to the internet at all, your refrigerator.
Starting point is 00:20:03 And it's like it could become this giant super villain that if you, you can think you kill it, but if you turn that refrigerator back on and it's connected to the internet, it's right back. okay so the only way to kill it is a global EMP which would fry all electronics then we could restart but how do you launch a global EMP without computers so that's what we're facing now let me show you when we come back why this is much closer than you think we're we're talking about last night the news last night I don't know what everybody else is talking about.
Starting point is 00:20:53 But last night, a mutation happened in artificial intelligence. Google announced that, let me see if I can get the, let me see if I can get the actual quote from them. It's like discovering the secret notebooks of some great player from the past. Alpha Zero, which comes from the alphabet company, which is Google. They have now had an evolution process, which has taken now the artificial intelligence that they had. And it is reached, quote, a turning point in history. It's now showing human-like intuition. This is critically important.
Starting point is 00:21:48 there is something on the horizon. We are so bored right now with, oh, my car, I can take my hands off the wheel and I can sleep on the freeway. That a year ago was like, everybody was like, oh, can you, you've seen that? Now everybody's pissed off at it. Why won't it drive me home? Why won't it get me to my house and pull out in front when I call for it?
Starting point is 00:22:15 Right? Am I right? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yep. We are so, we're living in such a fast lane that nothing is impressive anymore for very long. Here's the reason why you don't have a self-driving car right now. It's called the 5G network.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And the 5G network, I mean, I don't know the difference between the 1G and 3G. I just know I got bars, right? And it's faster. Yes. Okay. The problem is, is that. we have what's called a latency problem. And I explain this in the stage tour.
Starting point is 00:22:53 So when you hear it, you might be excited that you didn't go. But it has a latency problem. Right now, the internet, as we have, as we have it, has a 100 millisecond latency problem, which means why don't we have doctors being able to perform surgery on the other side of the planet? Well, because if the doctor makes a mistake and accidentally cuts an artery and he, He's in the room. He can immediately go to fix it. But there is a hundred millisecond
Starting point is 00:23:24 latency, a delay on the internet. So if he's using a machine remotely, he can't say, oh my gosh, pinch the artery and do it right away. It takes them 100 milliseconds. It might be too late. Same thing with driving cars. 5G takes and destroys all latency. It's like 8 milliseconds to maximum of 10 milliseconds.
Starting point is 00:23:51 So there is no delay really in this, which means we don't understand, we think of self-driving cars as it just looking at the road ahead and saying, oh, well, wait a minute, there's a wall there, quick, swerve. But that's not what self-driving cars have to do. self-driving cars have to know not only swerve because that's a wall, it has to know everything else around it. And that includes people. So your car, when we have the 5G network, will actually be gathering information as you drive. So you may not know the nose picker in the car behind you or beside you, but your car will. Your car, while we're going, look that guy picking his nose. Your car will be thinking, that's Fred. He makes $150,000 a year. He's got a family of five. He was just diagnosed with cancer.
Starting point is 00:24:55 He is, if we get into an accident, he's expendable. Okay? It will know everything around you because it will make the decision, who lives, who dies. And it might be you. If you are the old person and everybody else is young in the prime of their life, you may have the car may say sorry dude it's your turn it's like the robots on i robot remember that will smith movie yes it had to make those calculations and decide spur of the moment who lived and who died correct so the 5g network changes absolutely everything because it is so fast
Starting point is 00:25:37 now there's a way to invest and make money on the 5g network because it is it's costing billions of to build, but it will be introduced by 2025. When we hit 2025, the speed of your life is going to change dramatically. What we thought was not possible, self-driving cars, is suddenly, absolutely not only possible, but doable, and it will happen. So this is why I talk about these things with such urgency, because the, for instance, as I write in my book, what the hell is the name of this?
Starting point is 00:26:17 Addicted to Outrage. As I write in Addicted to Outrage, The Moral Machine. Did you read that part about the Moral Machine at MIT? That's terrifying. And that's being decided right now. In fact, Mark in Texas, Mark, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:26:33 What's your comment? Yes. Glenn, well, I mean, let me just open up with, I'm so glad to hear you talk about this topic. Nothing in life keeps me more. awake or more terrified on a day-to-day basis than AI. Yep. It is the, it take any chemical weapons, any world government, any politician you want,
Starting point is 00:26:54 it doesn't touch a fraction of what our electronic world touches. But so AI 100 years from now horrible thing. AI today is a horrible thing because even if you look at it, it's a very basic It's doing a problem that we tell it to do. You're saying it's accomplishing a goal that we tell it to do. I'm sorry, but you're breaking up, so I want to make sure I understand what you're saying. Call back.
Starting point is 00:27:28 If you get into a good space, Mark, call back, because I'd like to hear the rest. I think what he's saying is, what I've been saying for a while, do not fear the machine, fear the goals and the lessons that we're teaching. The way it's programmed, too. Correct.
Starting point is 00:27:42 The way it's programmed. Correct. into it is going to say a lot about what comes out of it. Well, what this is, what scary is, you're not just putting, humans are not putting this stuff in. It's machine learning. Like, nobody taught this last night how to play chess. In four hours, it taught itself.
Starting point is 00:27:59 It gave chess pieces and a chess board and said, go. And it taught itself how to play chess. And now it can be, in four hours, it can be chess masters. And they didn't think that was possible before. They didn't think that was possible. No. And this is not the only time that something. Like this has happened.
Starting point is 00:28:15 This is just the first time it's been complete. Because, yeah, we thought this was years away. Yes. They thought it was a decade away. Yes. Thought it was a decade away. Okay, this changes everything. And it's going to change things quickly.
Starting point is 00:28:27 If you want to, if you want to read about this, there are, I just, I just posted at glenbeck.com and you have to go to the blog section and look for articles. But there is, you know, Glenn's, you know, reading for the year or whatever it is. I posted, and they broke it up into. the three different posts. And there's like 50 different books that I read this year that I recommend that you read whatever one thing you think is in your wheelhouse. And you're like, I want to understand this.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And when it comes to AI, I broke it up into two different sections. I broke it up into real, true, scholarly kind of, you know, the stuff the scientists are reading that are not too nerdy. I can still understand it. but it really explains it with the, you know, in a real way. And then I also took and broke it up into fiction. For instance, Dan Brown's book that came out this year. I don't remember what it is.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I can't remember the name of it, but it has a seashell on it. That's a good book to begin to understand AI. But there's another series and it's, I can't remember the name of it, but it's one when you look at this list, you'll see there's like five of them. I consume this book, this series of books in probably about two weeks. It is so good. You'll not put it down. The first book in the series is all kind of set up, so it's a little slow.
Starting point is 00:29:51 But once you get past the first book, they are phenomenal. And let me just give you one scene to explain how ASI and AGI work. In this series of books, it starts with a company like Google. And they're doing Google Mail and, everything else. And this guy says, I have, I know I have a GI. I just, I just have to, I just have to unleash it. And, uh, the company is dragging its feet and they don't want to do it. But what this, what this does is he has this, this program that he has developed that will help you write letters. And you know how when you're running a letter on Google and it puts up a couple of words and
Starting point is 00:30:36 you're like, yeah, that one, that one. And you can, you can, sometimes you can like write half the letter just by going, yeah, that one and that one and that one. Oh, my gosh, yes. It's learning. This is machine learning. It's learning you and how to write a letter. So that's how this starts. And so the, the, the guy can't get the right funding for his, for his division, but he knows this will work. And so he unleashes it quietly. And he unleashes it just in his own department on, you know what, help me write the letters to get these things done. So it gives it its goal. Get this done. Well, before he knows it, oh, it's done.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And it has, it is starting to solve world global problems because it's just gone out online and seen other problems that it can solve. And so it's making all kinds of deals and nobody's actually involved in these deals, but their names are on it. And it's all, it's all done in such a way that you can't really trace it. You can't, nobody, nobody really knows what's going on. but it's all good so far. By the second or third book,
Starting point is 00:31:44 it's decided, you know what, humans are really kind of pesky. And to give you an idea of what you're facing in the future and how fast it thinks, there is one scene that starts with the president in the Oval Office. And a general comes in and says, Madam President,
Starting point is 00:32:04 the, the algorithm is, out and it's threatening Chicago, we must launch a counterattack, okay? Because it's taking control of some of the Pentagon's drones. And we must take this out because it wants to take out all of the servers for the Pentagon because it's got servers elsewhere already. And the president says, General, do you concur or something like that? Then it immediately goes to Chicago.
Starting point is 00:32:38 and it shows the war. And it goes on for a full chapter in great detail. It does this and it counters here and it takes this out because this is going to begin to move and this thing is moving. And the Pentagon is doing this and this is happening. And it is a long, long battle. It wins. At the very end of the chapter, it goes back to the scene in the Oval Office.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And the general that at the beginning of the chapter was asked, do you concur, answers the president. Yes, Madam President. So everything took place in that space of time. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, wow. The world has changed.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Last night, the world took a giant leap. And it is something that they said would not happen for a decade. We must have this conversation because ethics. are everything. Yesterday, Microsoft said they will, they have the Pentagon's back and they will use AI to help the Pentagon win wars. Look at what Google announced last night on how AI just self-taught how to win at chess. All right.
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Starting point is 00:35:51 what we talked about this morning on the show. I know, little on the whole week. I know. It moves so fast. Everything happens so quickly. I mean, the AI thing is huge. I'm, you know, we've been keeping our eye on the border situation the whole time. Can you give me in a quick update
Starting point is 00:36:07 on the border? Yeah. It's, I mean, there's almost 10,000 people in Tijuana trying to get into the United States. So there's not diminishing. They're not going home. No, they're not going home. Some of them have gone home, but the vast majority have stayed and they're waiting. They're just waiting it out. It's not.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I mean, it's my fear is that we are making in Tijuana, we are making a Palestinian refugee camp. It seems that way. You know, it does. That's what's going to happen. and they will be permanently, in time, permanently displaced, and then they will claim to be Americans who have been displaced, that they were just trying to go to America. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I mean, it's the same thing. All they want is a free state to live in. Right. And it's the evil Americans that are keeping them out. That's the long-term play. And Mexico gets no flack for what's going on in Mexico, because the Mexicans aren't real excited about the Guatemalans or the Hondurans either. 78% think that this is an abomination and want them out of the country.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Yeah. So I just don't, I mean, the good news is you've got a great Marxist president for Mexico. So I'm sure that's going to be. That's always helpful. Yeah. Bill O'Reilly is coming up next. Okay, this has been a dicey week for U.S.-China relations, and it just got a lot dicier. Report surfaced yesterday. the Canadian authorities arrested a woman,
Starting point is 00:37:42 Mong-Wan Joe. She is the daughter of the founder of Huawei, which is China's largest tech company. Now, Hmong is the company's CFO. She was arrested in Vancouver Airport last weekend at the request of the U.S. At the time she was arrested,
Starting point is 00:38:00 President Trump was having dinner with President Z in Buenos Aires. The U.S. government is seeking her extradition from Canada now, but is not announced the specific reason for her arrest. Now, under U.S. law, certain technologies that originate in the U.S. are not allowed to be exported to certain other countries like Iran. When this company, her company, licensed those American technologies, U.S. law also prohibits them from exporting that tech to certain countries.
Starting point is 00:38:32 So the U.S. has considered this company in China, a new. national security threat for a long time. And it's going to be interesting to find out what specific violation finally made the feds to take this step and say, knock it off. Now, as expected, this arrest is not sitting well in China. The company says, we haven't done anything wrong. We don't know what they're after. The Chinese embassy in Canada released a statement demanding the U.S. in Canada immediately correct the wrongdoing and restore the personal freedom of the CFO.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Oh, this arrest is a very bold and aggressive move. You don't just arrest a CFO of a major company in China, but this woman is the daughter of the Chinese equivalent of a Bill Gates or Steve Jobs in China. He is also a major player in the Communist Party. Now, this is an enormous company. It sells more smartphones than Apple and builds telecommunication networks all around the world. It made $90 billion last year. So her arrest has enormous implications.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And if you remember last weekend of the G20, Trump and President Z agreed to press the pause button on the trade feud for about 90 days while a new trade deal is hammered out. But the president was saying these things while his administration was ordering the arrest and extradition. of this CFO. Those negotiations were already a powder keg. This arrest is a match. Does it blow up our relationship? Does it blow up the Chinese structure? Or does it blow up Donald Trump or our economy?
Starting point is 00:40:29 It could be that the match just blows out. I doubt it. What does this mean? We'll continue to watch. It's Friday, December 7th. All right, you. We're listening to the Glymack program. Yes, welcome to the program.
Starting point is 00:40:48 We're glad you're here. Mr. Bill O'Reilly is joining. Bill, do you have anything to add to this Chinese trade wrinkle here? No. Okay. Good for you. Good for you. A man of very few words.
Starting point is 00:41:04 But you know what you know. How are you, Bill? I mean, look, I'm not. All I know is that for decades, China has had a very profitable trade policy with the United States. And in October, the deficit of trade in China's favor was at a record, five and a half billion just for the month. But it's not helping us. here's what here's the thing that I'm concerned about with China and have been for a long time. If they do deals with anybody here, they force the companies, and this is the company's fault.
Starting point is 00:41:47 They force the companies to give us your, your, your, your, your, all your data, give us all of the plans, etc., etc. That's the company's responsibility. They want to make that deal with China. They can make that deal and not have a market if they don't want to make that deal. That's fine. What I don't like about China is the, the, the corporate. espionage that goes on in this country from China.
Starting point is 00:42:10 They are all over American technology and they thief it. They absolutely feel it. But I don't like the fact that the Chinese government, which obviously controls their economy, unlike the American economy, government does
Starting point is 00:42:26 not control the American economy. That's a big thing everybody's got to understand. They don't take enough soybeans spec. I mean, they're not taking any now. You know, we'll take 400 soybeans, but we're not going to anymore. And, you know, I mean, I'm making a facetious comparison, but we can't send them, as many products as they send us, because their government won't allow it. And that's what Trump wants to stop.
Starting point is 00:42:56 So if you have to break it down into terms, even I can understand use the soybean model. All right. Let's talk about a couple of quick kids. here. First of all, Heather Naurit is going to be the next ambassador to the UN. Right. And Steve Ducey is probably going to be her deputy. Okay. Good. So I'm... And then what's going to happen is there's going to be a UN cookbook coming out. All of these things, it's synergy. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Right. Right. Right. So I'm glad to see that we have the first, our first initiative. pass at this is very, very similar. You know, you know, Heather. I don't know her at all. I assume she's very smart and she's, you know, she's very good at your job. But the UN ambassador is usually reserved for somebody, you know, that has deep experience around the globe. Yeah, I was surprised Kill Me didn't get it, but, you know, I don't think you wanted it. So, look, Heather Naur is a very smart woman, very well educated.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Her expertise is in foreign affairs. She was a news person on Fox. She did analysis from me early on on the factor. She was good. Wait, hang on just saying. Didn't she start on the factor? Isn't Heather the one that was in school with Al Gore? I don't know if she was in school with Al Gore.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I don't know that. but I put her on first very early because she was smart. And her expertise wasn't foreign affairs. And ABC hired her away from Fox. She was a reporter. So I'm not really getting the angst, you know, other than, you know, boy, she worked for Fox, you know, that kind of. Yeah, that's not my, honestly, that's not my problem,
Starting point is 00:44:55 that she worked for Fox. I just, you know, I think Nikki Haley was phenomenal, probably one of the best since Bolton or Gene Kirkpatrick. But remember, Haley's whole background was in local politics and didn't have a strong foreign policy resume. But if you're in politics, if you're governor of a state, you do have international relations. You do have negotiation experience. You know, you're not a reporter. That's not the job of the ambassador at the U.N.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I think you're denigrating of the repritorial squad here. I think I could do that job at UN ambassador. I think I could do it. I think you probably could. Yeah. We would be at global war in about 20 minutes, but I think you could do it. There'd be a lot more soybeans going over to China. Sure there would be.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Sure there would be. So look, people need to understand. If you're an ambassador to the United Nations, you basically are an, order taker. You're not a policy forger. Okay, it is a big difference in the job of Secretary of State where Heather was, you know, the spokesperson, but I understand that she had a lot of input into what happened. Good.
Starting point is 00:46:17 But when you're an ambassador to the United Nations, you basically confer with the White House, and you are told this is it. Now, you can make suggestions, but you don't forge policies. policy. Right. Okay. So we're talking to Bill O'Reilly about the news of the day. And I wish, I wish Heather the best. And I mean, I want her to win and I want her to be even better than Nikki Haley. Because I thought Nikki Haley was fantastic. And we finally took a stand where we should. And she was very, very smart the way she handled things. And I'm hoping that Heather is exactly the same. But I do think this is a first for a, the heathers of the world to be a global investment. That also gives more prestige to the name Heather. It really does. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:47:10 What we expect from you on the radio. Well, that's the kind of analysis that I can bring to the table. Let me take you to France. France shut down the Eiffel Tower. 89,000 security forces were deployed. The president bent on this global warming tax, which started it all, which now that he bent. Now everybody is saying, well, wait a minute, I want something too. That's right. Tell me your thoughts on France.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Well, if they, if they close down, I'll bow and pain, then I'm going to have to get involved. I don't think that's actually French. Oh. Okay. The French are, here's a real story. You hire me. Well, I hire. I do this free for plugs. I work for plugs, not hair plugs. Right. Book plugs. No, you, I mean, you're very cheap. You really are. You really are.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Thank you. Yeah. So here's a deal in France. Nobody has any money. Why? Because the government takes it away from you in the form of taxes. And the quid pro quo is, that's Latin, we'll give you everything. So you get free school and free health care, free retirement, six weeks vacation a year back.
Starting point is 00:48:21 And we can't fire you. Nobody's allowed to really fire you. Even if you drive a nail in somebody's foot. You can't get fired. Okay, so that's the trade. And then we take all of your money that you earn. Okay. So now the average French person needs three things.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Coffee, cigarettes, and croissants. Okay. You may be. That pretty much wipes their disposable income every day out. Right. It may be a little exaggeration or, you know. It's like the soybeans back. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:57 No, I, all right. We'll go with it. We'll go with it. So when they raise the money on the litre of gasoline, they don't have it. And, you know, to drive from Paris and knees for a little fun, that's going to cut it. So that's why they're all mad,
Starting point is 00:49:17 because there's no, the Army backup of, you know, it's like, well, okay, we made our bargain with the government, but now the government's hosing us, as they always do, taking more than they should in taxes, and now we're going to burn down the eye. Well, here's the amazing thing is they all are for this. 80% of the French people are for, you know, global warming measures, et cetera, et cetera, the Paris accord. So they're not blowing so much tobacco and smoke in the air. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:44 So they're all for this, but when it comes down to it, when they actually see that the price has to be paid by the average person, that's when they say, wait a minute, wait a minute, we thought somebody else was going to pay for that. That's right. No, no, no, no, no. You're right. And all of these cars are on fires, that's polluting the air. Right. It's making things even hotter. That's right.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Knock it off. Okay. So your thought on, on, does this peter out? Or is this the beginning of something bigger? Well, he's over, Macron has already said or am I going to do it. Right. But so now. But now the labor unions.
Starting point is 00:50:22 It's fun. Yeah, labor unions and everybody else has an axe to grind. And it's going, I think, to Belgium. Is it Norway and England this weekend? Norway and England are going to have demonstrations as well? Yes, yes. Okay, but these are anarchists now that come out. I mean, these are the people who want to open borders in America, those kinds of people, Antifa.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Yes. That's who's coming out now. It's almost like the left and the right are working together over in Europe to destabilize Europe. I don't know where I heard that about eight years ago, but it looks like that. finally happening. Well, look, if you are going to, the, the message for all Americans is if you're going to allow the government to regulate every part of your life, you're going to get hosed. Bill O'Reilly, back with more in just a second.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Bill O'Reilly, of course, the author of, I don't know. He used to make fun of me. Glenn, you write so many books. I'm like, yeah, I know. You should write some books. Great. You know, correct history and Formbiel. Now he's on his like, I believe it's his 1, 100th, number one bestseller.
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Starting point is 00:53:45 and the number one question that many of our audience has is, you know, when will you join forces with the evil empire that we are assembling here? The world is changing media-wise. I get ratings, cable news ratings, and network news ratings every day. Yeah, I know. And the deterioration in the audience, particularly 25 to 54, is startling. You know, I...
Starting point is 00:54:17 Americans are not getting what they want from television news overall. I have seen some of the ratings on CNN. And the ratings on CNN for 2554 are lower than the ratings we used to have when we were struggling over on headline news. I mean, it's bleak. It's bleak. I think that, you know, consolidating your power on the blaze with CRTV is a good smart move. Yeah. You know, it's all about having a vehicle that's different and then letting the folks decide what they'd like to watch.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And also creating something I think that does not tell people what to say, what to do, what to think, how to produce their show. Just produce your show. Yeah, you've got to get good people. And you also have to have distribution. That is the key. So at this point in my career, we're doing very well on Bill O'Reilly. com better than I ever thought and I'm going to just wait and see you know what happens in the next few months anything could happen with me I mean I'm open a lot of possibilities you never know
Starting point is 00:55:33 we you know we've also hired a new negotiating firm veto and veto uh I like veto and I'm glad he's on parole oh he's you're going to love him you're going to love you all right bill uh tell me here in about a minute and a half that we have your thoughts on the George Bush funeral this week. Okay, before I get to that, and when we come back, I hope we can talk about the column I wrote on religion and clerics speaking, sermonizing in churches. I hope you read that, because I want to know what you think about what I said. Okay. The funeral of Bush, the elder, very, very positive for America, shows the world that the country admires patriotism and honesty, and certainly those attributes were part of the Bush, the elders, appeal.
Starting point is 00:56:24 You know, obviously the cable news took about 30 seconds after the funeral in Washington was over for them to begin tearing up again and misbehaving. Can't stop it. It's an epidemic. It's disgusting. But I thought the Bush family and the whole presentation was a big plus for the country. What do you think George Bush in the end, George H.W. Bush, be remembered for. A decent man. You know, he wrote me two letters that I promised I wouldn't publish until he passed. I have them on Bill O'Reilly.com.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Very strong letters, Beck. One about the media bias and the other about Iran Contra. And I hope all your listeners will go there and read those letters. He was an honest man, but fundamentally a decent, kind man. I agree. I had a nice correspondence with him. I agree. Bill O'Reilly, we're going to talk about his really powerful op-ed,
Starting point is 00:57:17 O come all ye faithful when we come back. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. Bill O'Reilly has written a very good op-ed called O'Comall Ye Faithful, that everybody should read. Bill, if I may, I just want to quote a couple parts of it. The faithful are not coming, at least not the way they once did. Churches and synagogues are seeing declining weekly attendance as America becomes a devoted secular nation. The winds of change have not been kind to the spiritual, even as the Christmas season is upon us once again.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Much of the diminishment of religion comes from the media who often marginalizes people of faith, betraying them as zealots who intrude on the rights of others. For example, LGBT progress is met with parades. Those who promote biblical beliefs are accused of bigotry and shunned by some. On the subject of abortion, if you stand to protect innocent life, then you're a hater of women not worthy of being taken seriously. Tough to fight that so many millions of folks won't even try. and some of them are supposed to be religious leaders.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Centuries of Irish Catholic tradition compel me to attend weekly Mass, even though it's not always a rewarding experience. That's a pretty brave thing to say as somebody who is faithful, but I think a lot of Americans feel the same way. I go, and sometimes it's like, what are you talking about? Why aren't we talking about real things, Bill? Yeah, I wrote a book called Killing Jesus,
Starting point is 00:58:50 and the reason that Jesus had thousands of people, following around was because he stood up on a big rock and gave sermons that moved, move them as human beings. And the sermons were very explicit, and here's what you do if you want to earn the kingdom of heaven. It's what you got to do. And it wasn't like, don't do, all right? There were a few times when Jesus of Nazareth did that, but very few. It was, this is what you have to do. So now, I'm going to church, and I'm listening to some priests tell me about the mustard seed. I got it.
Starting point is 00:59:30 It fell on fallow ground and didn't grow up. I got it. I got it. Tell me what I should do when my kid is addicted to a machine in his hand where he can access evil in less than 10 seconds. All right. Let's deal with something that, you know, promotes evil. in the easiest way in civilization. How about we deal with that a little bit?
Starting point is 00:59:59 How would Jesus see that? And you get nothing. Zero. Nothing even close where you could take it home and discuss it with your kids, with other people. And, you know, the average age of my church people go to Mass every Sunday is about 80. You know, I mean, kids, you know, I drag my kids, but I got to drag them. Because they sit there and, you know, and they're pre-ups, they're droning on and on and on and on, about nothing that relates to contemporary life.
Starting point is 01:00:36 And that was the column. And I'm saying, look, if you people in the churches and synagogues and all of that, if you want people to become spiritual, you've got to help them. And we're not getting the help back. You know, I, Bill, I'm rereading how to win friends and influence people. And I read that when I was a kid because my dad forced me to read it. And so I kind of read it like, oh, I got to read that stuff my book. And I know what it said and, you know, because my dad didn't a lesson afterwards, et cetera, et cetera. But I haven't read it, I think, since I was maybe 20.
Starting point is 01:01:17 And I just read it again. and I'm going back to read it again and really take it apart because it really has all of the answers that we're looking for. And nobody is, nobody's talking about it. And one of the first chapters is you have to find out what people need and then help them accomplish that. And that's one of the things that our churches I don't think are doing. They are struggling with so many things.
Starting point is 01:01:49 They're under attack at school. They're under attack in society. They're under attack in politics. They're under attack all the time. Even Christmas is under attack. So you're absolutely right. And by the way, I tried to buy that book. And Barnes & Noble refused to sell it to me.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I thought that was very unfair. What? Yeah. They said, O'Reilly, we're not giving you how to win friends. Well, it's impossible for you. I think that's, I think that actually, I think that's, says that somewhere in the book. This will work for everybody, but Bill.
Starting point is 01:02:22 But Bill, right. And look, you've got, I'm sitting here, my head's blowing off. You talk about Kevin Hart. Okay. I got no use for Kevin Hart. I like Kevin. He's all right. He's funny.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Nobody wanted the job. You know, it's when you're down to offering, you know, the job to Casey and the Sunshine Band, to ask the Oscars, you know you got a problem. So if they can't, let me ask you this, if they came to you and said, Bill. No, I wouldn't do it. You wouldn't do it. No, no, you can't win. Number one, I can't pronounce the names of the movies,
Starting point is 01:03:00 and I'm absolutely not going to see the shape of water. I know what the shape of water is. I'm not going. That would be such a great, but it would be so great to see you on stage, the Oscar. Just saying that. Just saying that. I'm just like, what are you people?
Starting point is 01:03:18 frauds, you're all phonies. You know, I know you're liberal and you ain't Trump. Why? Because you want to work. I got it. Everybody, you got it. We have to do our, we have to do our own live Oscars here on that Sunday night. I'm awarding at the High Plains Drifter.
Starting point is 01:03:34 I actually watched that last night. All right. So back to Kevin Hart. Yeah. Back to Kevin Hart. So, so you've got a cultural civil war in a country and one side doesn't fight. that's the traditional spiritual religious side and I went on a fight we're not we're not doing it so well I think can we hang on just a second wait wait wait let me let me play let me play what
Starting point is 01:03:59 Kevin Hart said because I think this is the way average people feel and they're they feel I don't have to fight this because it's so crazy it just won't stand but it is standing but listen to what he said I swear man our world is becoming beyond crazy. I'm not going to let the craziness frustrate me or anger me, especially when I worked hard to get to the mental space that I am at now. My team calls me, oh my God, Kevin the world is upset about tweets you did years ago. Guys, I'm almost 40 years old. If you don't believe that people change, grow, evolve as they get older, I don't. I'm know what to tell you.
Starting point is 01:04:47 If you want to hold people in a position where they always have to justify or explain their past, then do you. I mean, he's right. And so people, people don't necessarily fight back because, A, they don't see a way to win. And B, they're like, you know what? I don't even, I can't even relate to these people. If you don't understand that something I said 10 years ago in a tweet, shouldn't be held against me today.
Starting point is 01:05:19 And I was a comedian. Right. He's doing a riff. But that's a cop out though, Beck. I mean, to say, oh, oh, I don't want to really do it. Look, then you're seeding control of the American culture to meet you, Times Up, Gay Lobby, all of this stuff. So they're going to be the ones that tell you what you can and can't say. Okay, so let me go back to what you just wrote and what you just said.
Starting point is 01:05:51 And I thought this was really great. You said, don't tell me what not to do. Tell me what to do. Nice. So in the case of like Kevin Hart and you see this and you're like, this is ridiculous. And you know it's going to happen to you or your kids. So what do you do? Well, I'm not going to spend a lot of currency sticking up.
Starting point is 01:06:12 for Kevin Hart. As they said, I mean, I don't think this is a champion of anything. They just needed a person of color to do the show, and he was selected, but, you know, I'm not going to campaign on behalf of Kevin Hart. But in my lifetime, I've been attacked every hour on the hour, distorted, accused, whatever it may be, with the sole intent of destroying my voice. Because I wrote a book, All Culture, warrior, which predicted this would all happen, that if you're going to have no leadership on the traditional spiritual side, what leadership do we have back? Your voice, I'm a voice, there's a few more of us, but not many.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Not many. We're outnumbered 100 to 1 in the media. And then you go into the individual churches around the country, and you get the mustard seed. Okay, you're getting nothing about, look, we believe certain things, and here is the way to promote your belief. Here's what you need to do in your own life to make sure that we spiritual people are represented. You get none of that. So you're basically surrendering to the forces that say, you better not say anything critical of anybody we like or we're going to destroy you.
Starting point is 01:07:37 And that's exactly what's happening. Exactly what's happening. Bill O'Reilly, always good to talk to you. Is it really back? It's a pick-me-up. I don't know about everybody else in the audience, but I feel much better. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Killing me as a great Christmas gift. Good to talk to you, Bill. And Bill O'Reilly.com will not put you to sleep. That's for sure. Have a good weekend. Have a good weekend. You too. And we'll see you in church back.
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Starting point is 01:10:19 We're going to talk to him from the Libertarian POV. Also, I want to spend a couple more minutes on this Kevin Hart thing. You know, Bill said, I'm not going to stick up for Kevin Hart. I'm going to stick up for anybody who is being squelch. You know, I'll stand up for anybody. I don't have to agree with you. I'll stand up for Don Lemon. I'll stand up for Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:10:40 I'll stand up for anybody who is being squelched because of what they have said, what they believe, what they have said, especially in his case, 10 years ago. Yeah, and he's apologized for it multiple times. Oh, stop it. Which is why he said, you know, I'm not going to apologize for it again. I've already done that. Then he, of course, did apologize for it again
Starting point is 01:10:59 because that's just where we are. I mean, he's a comedian. Of course he has said, you know, edgy things about probably everything over the past 20 years. So who's going to take over now? Who is going to take over for Hollywood? Who is, get this, who is pure enough to be able to host the Oscars? Who wants to subject themselves to this?
Starting point is 01:11:26 I wouldn't do it. Would you? No. I would not do that. I mean, they're not going to want me. But if they did, I wouldn't do it. I don't know. Maybe I would just because it's a live broadcast.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Oh, you put whatever. ever you want in that teleprompter, it's a live broadcast. I would not miss that opportunity. So please, I throw my hat in the ring. I would love to host the Oscars. Anyway, the thing on this is, who are you going to get? Billy Crystal? Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Because Billy Crystal, at this point, you know, Billy Crystal is, he's a comedian too. He said something. There's something that he has said. You'll find something offensive that he has said in the past. So even if you're a Billy Crystal fan, you would think, you know what? Oh, Kevin Hart's not good enough, not pure enough? Oh, this guy is now, huh? Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:19 You could even be a Billy Crystal fan, but you will go and find something just to prove the point to Hollywood. I mean, nobody is safe from this. Absolutely not. The LGBTQIA2. Quilt bag. Quill beg people are just so powerful at this point that if you don't just fall into lockstep with everything they've ever said, done, felt, or thought,
Starting point is 01:12:46 you're... Well, no, no, you can't... You're done. No, no, no, you can't fall into everything they've said or thought or felt. You have to fall into what they're feeling, saying, or thinking today. Right now. Right now.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Yesterday is not good enough. Yeah. Yesterday is just not good enough. Yeah, and there can be no disagreement. There can be no disagreement on any of it anymore. You have to think exactly what they think. That's what. This is this is the premise behind the merger between CRTV and the blaze.
Starting point is 01:13:17 There are hosts that I strongly disagree with and strongly disagree with me. And if we that believe in the big principles, the constitution, that America is not a bad place, that America should not be destroyed, that the Bill of Rights, is is the greatest document ever coupled with the with the Declaration of Independence. That's our unum. That's what that's what will solve these problems. If those people who believe that but just disagree on politics or policies, if we can't come together, there's no chance. There's no chance.
Starting point is 01:13:56 We must put our petty differences aside and look at the big principles and come together and stand together and be able to have a real. reasonable discussion with people we disagree with. Mr. Matt Kibby is a fellow libertarian and a good friend. He has, he was instrumental in Freedom Works. He really started, started that and was instrumental in so many of the things that the Tea Party did. He is really, I think, responsible for much of the Tea Party. And most people don't even know that.
Starting point is 01:14:38 They may not even know who Matt Kibby is. he is a brilliant thinker way ahead of the curve. He left Freedom Works a long time ago, went out on his own, and has really focused on youth and is trying to teach what socialism really is because it means something different to people who are under 30 and they don't understand it. And he is also very wary of the tribal politics and tribal identity that we are that we're currently working on. And I'm thrilled that he is now part of the Blaze TV family,
Starting point is 01:15:17 or we are a part of his family, however you want to look at it. Blaze TV merged with CRTV, and we hope this is just the beginning of something entirely new, where people who have different opinions and can disagree strongly with each other can be still on the same platform, and everyone can have a reasonable debate. As long as you agree that America shouldn't, be destroyed and the Bill of Rights is is just an amazing thing and we should all get together
Starting point is 01:15:46 and protect and live then I think your voice should be heard Matt Kimby joins us now hello Matt hey Glenn good to talk to you good to talk to you so Matt tell me bring me up to speed on what you're learning as you are working with millennials now and and outside of the political realm you know years ago I was I was reading the polling results from something that the Reason Foundation put out where they were showing this very concerning trend with young people supporting socialism more than capitalism. But when you dug into the questions a little bit deeper, they would ask young people the follow-up
Starting point is 01:16:25 question, well, should government own the means of production? And the answer was, hell no, that's a stupid idea. I realize that there's a language problem. Like, we're using the same word, but it means different things to different. people. And I think a lot of young people that are drawn to so-called democratic socialism view it very much as a bottom-up local war, let's all work together in voluntary cooperation to solve problems. And that, of course, that of course is the exact opposite of what you and I understand as socialism and certainly the dire history of socialism and practice.
Starting point is 01:17:05 So what is happening to the movement? Are you seeing millennials start to wake up? Because I feel like they are. I think they're the most getable generation when it comes to the values of voluntary cooperation. And you're right to pursue your own dreams as long as you don't hurt people or take their stuff. that's who they are. They live in this radically libertarian world where they curate everything through technology and social media. But we're probably not connecting with them on language,
Starting point is 01:17:47 and we're also never going to connect with them if our offer is, here's these two tired old political parties, and you have to choose one of those. It's an alien concept to them that they would actually have only two choices on anything. So I think we have to tell stories. I think, you know, part of the stories, some of the stories are the devastating history of socialism and practice. They're gut-wrenching, horrible, depressing things. But also, you know, the cool stories about what Liberty creates.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Like, can you actually brew a fantastic double-hop triple IPA? You can't in Venezuela, but in America, you can do. that because we allow for choice and creation and serving customers and doing what you want and bringing new products to market. But those kinds of stories, I think, without sort of beating people over the head with economics, I think that's the future of how we connect. So, Matt, have you seen the libertarian movement in Brazil that has brought a lot of American libertarians down?
Starting point is 01:18:57 And they've talked to them all and they're like, wow. Okay, we don't want to do it that way. And their point is, the libertarian in America, that movement is basically run by old guys, in their view, old guys who are in Congress and are trying to do things. And they're like, this has got to be a youth thing. It's got to be outside. And they have made a huge impact. And it's just a group of people who took their time and their talent and started explaining these things online and they are they are moving the needle down in Brazil do you are you aware of them oh yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:19:36 there it's a it's a huge movement down there uh you can actually find organizations like that all over the world now i just got back from the republic of georgia speaking to about a thousand young libertarian kids i mean they're 20 years old and they're and they're looking for for alternatives but it is that that the ethos in brazil and other places is very much based on youth. It's based on libertarian values. And it's a rejection of the political status quo. They don't, they don't find it appealing anywhere across the board. And yes, American libertarians could learn a lot. American conservatives could learn a lot from the youth liberty movement across the world. I agree. You were just over in Georgia. Tell me what you, tell me what you're finding over in Europe.
Starting point is 01:20:27 I think things are getting frightening. And you're not. hearing about anybody who is standing up going, no, neither of those is the answer. Well, you know, this whole idea that you have to choose between hardcore Marxist violence and Tifa or some sort of flavor of white nationalism and fascism is this false choice, I think, that's trying to be imposed all over the world. And the counter-revolution is, is again with young people saying, you know what, neither of those deadlyisms, you know, Marxists, you know, fascism, socialism, white nationalism. They're all kind of the same thing. They're all top down. They're all looking to make us all conform to one set of goals that are imposed by somebody else.
Starting point is 01:21:15 And people are rejecting that. So I think that I tend to be an optimist about what's going on, not just in Europe, but in the U.S., because we're in the middle of this paradigm shift. And it used to be that top-down institutions told us what to think and what to do. And now we're discovering through technology that that's not really the case anymore. We're discovering that all politicians lie, that government institutions don't do what they said they were going to do. And we're discovering that we're a little bit different. So we're sort of sorting that out. But the solution is not to choose between fascism and socialism. The solution is to choose liberty and self-reliant.
Starting point is 01:21:55 and voluntary cooperation and all these beautiful values that you were talking about this earlier, the Bill of Rights and the American experiment was really built on this stuff. So, Matt, you know, I talk to people in Silicon Valley. I follow it very closely. I have been impressed by the number of libertarians that are out there. However, the, you know, I'm torn when people say, hey, we've got to have an ASI, you know, Manhattan. Patton project because we don't want Russians to get it or China to get it. Well, I don't really want the United States government to either have it.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I don't want Google to have. I don't really want anybody to have it, quite frankly, but we can't put that genie back in the model. But Google came out a few weeks ago, and they said they're not going to do business with the United States government, even though they will. They're not going to do business with the Pentagon, et cetera, et cetera. but they are doing business with China, which is terrifying. And then Microsoft came out and said, hey, AI, we've got the Pentagon's back. We'll share everything we have with the Pentagon. Where are the libertarians in Silicon Valley when it comes to China and teaching AI how to kill and control?
Starting point is 01:23:18 Yeah, I think it's a problem, and I don't think that anyone in Silicon Valley is going to step up and protect us from the abuse of all these technological innovations. You know, the entire history of Silicon Valley is really rooted in DARPA and government contracts in the first place. So, you know, they're going to pursue their profit margins. You know, Amazon is doing the same thing. But again, the counter-revolution and technology, these are all very, these are all very, top-down controlled by a few actors sorts of technologies. And the next step has to be blockchain technologies that aren't controlled by corporate interests,
Starting point is 01:24:03 government interests, anybody's interest. It has to be more bottom up. And I do believe that there are technological solutions. And I tend to be quite romantic about what crypto and blockchain is going to bring to us in the next five years. Matt, you've been with CRTV now that has become Blaze TV. You are a staunch libertarian. There are things that we agree on.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Most I think we agree on, many things we don't agree on. But you are in a company that has anyone from you to Gavin McGinnis to me to Mark Levin, to Eric Bowling, all of us, we have so much. that we disagree on. How do you, what do you think the, why were you willing to take the heat to be the libertarian on CRTV for the last few years? Well, you know, libertarians don't neatly fit into any box,
Starting point is 01:25:10 so it wasn't like I could go to big libertarian TV and speak theirs. But I also think, I mean, the whole concept behind what we're doing is to find that common ground amongst people and ideologies and tribes and communities that disagree with each other on some pretty important things. And I think that's important. And since I left Freedom Works, I've spent a lot of time not just talking to conservatives through CRTV, but talking to libertarians, including Bigel libertarians at the party and and also talking to progressives because I think I think there are
Starting point is 01:25:51 some common values in there that that do hold us together and by the way those are the values that are going to save America from all of this tribal warfare that's tearing us apart. Those are the values that we all came here for when we were all immigrants. We came here for those values. I mean the people on the border who are crawling across the border now, they they are, you know, whether they say it or not, they are coming for those values unless they have ill intent. They want the opportunity to explore and to break out of their condition. They want a chance to live in a country that has laws and everybody is treated fairly. And we're not talking about that.
Starting point is 01:26:33 We're talking about immigration and this thing on the border as if that doesn't matter, as if the law. of the land and what they're coming here for don't matter. We, you know, we saw, I don't know if you saw the story of, what was the guy's names? Patty was rich, friend of Clinton, a friend of Trump was taking the Lolita plane. What's his name? Hmm. You know who I'm talking about, Matt? Yeah, I don't remember his name.
Starting point is 01:27:03 The, the, he was taking the Lulita plane. What's his name? Yeah, I know. You know who I'm talking about. Rich, actually. What's his name? I don't know. I thought it was.
Starting point is 01:27:12 rich, actually. No, no. Anyway, but he's, he is rich. And he kind of got off, well, he didn't kind of get off. He got off after 80 women were going to test, yeah, Epstein, 80 women were going to testify against him. And he brokered a deal because justice isn't blind in America. It's just not.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Yeah. And if we lose that, we lose everything we were. And by the way, like that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, rage against the machine that there isn't equal treatment under the law is something that I think animates a lot of young people that are attracted to democratic socialism. You know, we've all picked on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, but if you go back and look at her original viral campaign video, you have to get like 90% through it before you really disagree with anything she's saying because she's saying that the system is rigged.
Starting point is 01:28:09 she's saying that there's this crony collusion between members of Congress and Wall Street. And that could have been a Tea Party ad. And then at the end, they sort of throw on, that's why we need Medicare for all. But the values there are very much, you know, it could be Ron Paul. It could be Bernie Sanders. It could be the Tea Party. It could even be some of the themes that Donald Trump touched on when he was just raging against the swamp. Matt Kibby from Free the People.
Starting point is 01:28:38 and you can also watch him on blazedtiv.com. BlazTV.com. You can find him there and freetheple.org. I'd love to have you back on and talk a little bit about free the people. org because I know you're reimagining what the Tea Party 2.0 might look like. And I'd love to have that discussion with you. So maybe next time we have you on, Matt. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Thank you. Thanks for having me. You bet. Matt Kibby. All right. I want to talk to you about Simply Safe. Simply Safe is a system that Pat actually put in his house because he got a just a little bit of a raise in the cost. It was only double. But that was it.
Starting point is 01:29:25 But that's all. I mean, how bad is it when it goes from 30 to 60? Is that a big deal? $30 to $60. How did they think they would keep you as a customer? I don't know. But they didn't, fortunately. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:29:39 And if it wasn't for Simply Safe, you'd be. probably still have them, probably, because everything is, all the rest of them are the same, you know, they would have sold Pat, if they would have done that way, they'd say, well, we have to use our keypads and we have to put our stuff in it. And then you're back into the same game. Simply safe, you own the system and there's no wiring. So if you're going to move, you can easily move and take the stuff with you. If you're in an apartment, you can do that. The most important thing is, is you're in control of this and it is not expensive. I mean, you know, it's still a high level security system,
Starting point is 01:30:13 but it is not what you've been paying monthly, month after month after month after month. You was so overpaid. And if you want the 24-7 monitoring, it only cost you $14.99 a month. So Pat went from 60 to $14.99. And he doesn't have a contract. Sounds like a pretty good deal.
Starting point is 01:30:34 SimplySafec.com. Go to simplysafebeck.com. Order your system. Get it this holiday. deal that they have their offering right now on the website and get it for the holidays because crime really goes up at this time of the year. Simplysafebeck.com. So the weirdest thing has happened to my wife and I. We sold our house last Friday. Now, I had to go and close on the house on Thursday on Wednesday for the title company because I was going on tour. And this buyer of the house
Starting point is 01:31:07 was like, you've got to close right away. I want the house. I'm going to pay cash for it. And we're like, wow, really? And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he, you know, he's checked out. He has the money, blah, blah, blah, blah. He has the position to have the money.
Starting point is 01:31:23 And so we close. And on Friday, he closes all the signatures, everything happens. But then the money's not transferred. And so the title company is like, where's the money? And he's like, oh, my God. It was Friday. Oh my gosh. Did that not transfer?
Starting point is 01:31:39 Yeah. I am calling that bank. Well, it's 5 o'clock now. Oh, crap. All right. Well, Monday. First thing, it'll be there Monday. It must have got held back, held up.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Then Monday, no money transfer. And then he called and, or we called him and he's like, I'm in a meeting right now. I'll call you right back. And then like three hours later, we have to call him like, hey, dude, where's the money? Oh, my gosh. Is it still not there? Okay, well, I'm calling them right now. So he call nothing, okay?
Starting point is 01:32:11 Then five o'clock come. It still has a tramp. You know what? I'm telling you right now. I've had it. I am going to the bank the first thing tomorrow morning myself. The next day, he blames the money not coming because the bank didn't do any wiring because it was closed because of George H.W. Bush's funeral. And I'm like, wow.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I don't know what country that is, but the bank. were open here. Did they close only in Houston? Only in Houston. Apparently. Yes. Okay. So this goes on.
Starting point is 01:32:46 So finally, on Wednesday, we said, dude, by 5 p.m. tomorrow, you're officially in default and it's over.
Starting point is 01:32:56 He was still yesterday, when it was all over. It actually came over a Thursday. I think it was 9 a.m. And he was still writing all day yesterday going, you know what? I'm just, I can't tell you.
Starting point is 01:33:09 I've got my lawyers talking to the bank. We asked, well, what's the federal tracking number? And he's like, they didn't give me one. Wait, you gave that amount of money and you didn't ask for a receipt? What are you insane? So we could, we were like, is this guy nuts? Is he, or is he just so a scam artist? Is he so out of touch with other people's lives?
Starting point is 01:33:34 What the hell was that all about? It was just bizarre. A real estate agent said, never seen anything like this happen. They're like, we've seen a lot of things. We've never seen that we don't, because nobody, what is the deal? And he's still doing it today. He's like, no, I really want that. The money, it's coming.
Starting point is 01:33:56 I can't get it transferred. I'm like, where are you calling from? Venezuela? What is this? It's the Glenn Beck program. Well, I don't know if you've seen the latest from the, left on Christmas, but apparently Jesus had two dads. And I just like to point out, yes, yes, he did.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Yes, I'm glad you finally admit that. Yes, he had Joseph and God. Yeah, it's amazing. Thank you. I appreciate that. I'm going to make T-shirts. You finally get it. Jesus had two dads.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Just not the two you think they are. Joseph and, I don't know, Steve. but yes he did have two dads but now there's you know that uh that uh Jesus had two moms Mary and Mary or Mary in another I don't know Esther or whoever and you know it doesn't no huh no it just historically I'm pretty sure that's not the truth yeah even without the God thing and the star and the wise and nope I'm pretty sure that didn't happen not a lot of on back then? Well, there might have a lot of that going on, you know, but not
Starting point is 01:35:12 openly and not with everybody's blessing. Right. Just want to point that out. I just want to point that out. But now there's a professor at Minnesota State University Associate Professor who said that there is no definition of consent that constitutes God impregnating the Virgin Mary. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Let me sense. Wait. This is a Me Too movement for the Virgin Mary. Mary did not give consent to God. Specifically in the Bible, it says she actually did. But this Minnesota professor suggested in a series of tweets that the Virgin Mary did not consent to the conception of Jesus. Where? Where?
Starting point is 01:35:57 Show me the consent. Show me the consent in the Bible. Well, I have to go to the book of Matthew and Luke. And we'll point that out in a second. Oh, yeah, are hesitating now. You're hesitating. But he suggested that God may have acted in a predatory manner. This is just, this is just flat-up blasphemy.
Starting point is 01:36:19 First of all, they don't believe in God. True. They don't believe. There's no way this guy believes in God. Because you're right. You would not say that about God if you believed it. God is not a rapist. Right.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Exactly. God couldn't be God if he acted in a predatory manner. Correct. Correct. But he's a psychology professor and a sex therapist, and he critiqued the story of the Virgin Mary in his tweets, suggesting that the Virgin Mary did not consent. The virgin birth story is about an all-knowing, all-powerful deity impregnating a human teen.
Starting point is 01:36:54 There is no definition of consent that would include that scenario, happy holidays. Okay. First of all. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. No, I'm going to tell that warm story around the fireplace with my kids. couple of weeks. Right after I knew the Grinch story. I'm not telling this one. By the way, kids,
Starting point is 01:37:10 first we're going to read Luke, but I want you to remember, God's a rapist. It doesn't really work. Jesus was a product of a rape. So he's reminded that, you know, consent is given in scripture. And then he comes out with this tweet that
Starting point is 01:37:26 the power difference, deity versus more mortal. And the potential for violence for saying, no, negates the yes. We could have written this literally as a parody. And you wouldn't believe it. And then it happens in real life.
Starting point is 01:37:43 You don't even have to parrot. That's why there is no comedy. You don't even have a chance to do parody. This is why comedy is dead. You can't even make that up. You can't. Five years ago, we could have done that as a bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:56 The power dynamic between God and God. She can't consent because of the power dynamic. Oh, man. It is unbelievable. Oh, my gosh. Well, the reason why I want you to look this up, please, her consent is because was it signed by her? Do you have it on video? I do not have it on video.
Starting point is 01:38:19 What did she say? What was he proposing? What did he say? And was there at any time that she said, you know what? It was just a crazy night. You know, I was just so impressed. with the power dynamic. I mean, he was God.
Starting point is 01:38:36 I was an impressionable teenager. No matter what I said, it doesn't matter. He made me say yes. Okay. So, go ahead. Go ahead. I want to find the contract. I'm looking.
Starting point is 01:38:54 Does it need to be in triplicate? Well, yeah. I prefer it in video. Okay. So in the, I'm looking at the King James version. So, you know, if you want, If you want to take issue with that. You're a white power.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Go ahead. Let's see. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You see your signature anywhere? See any signatures? There's no signature.
Starting point is 01:39:15 There's no signature. No. It's not signed in. So duplicate or triplicate. This is just, man, that changes everything. That changes the story of Christmas entirely. Yeah, it really does. Kind of takes the ho, ho, ho out of the holidays.
Starting point is 01:39:30 It really does. There is no signature page here, though. Wow. And there is no video. And there's no recording of it. Well, other than the written. And by the way, it was the Holy Spirit. It wasn't even God.
Starting point is 01:39:41 He had some. All right. It's the Holy Spirit's like, you know, some, I don't even know who he is. I mean, who's that guy? I mean, like the attorney, he coming down trying to bro. He's like Cohen. Is that who he is? Michael Cohen?
Starting point is 01:39:51 I don't know. I don't know. We don't know. There's no. Had he even been to law school? Had he been to law school? Was it all legally handled? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:39:58 I don't think so. Mary was coerced. unbelievable. It's absolutely unbelievable. You really can't make it up. No, I know. I know. It doesn't even have time to be an S&L skit.
Starting point is 01:40:14 And what? How do you build on that to make it crazier? This is the problem that comedians are facing. You say something. The idea is you take something and then you take it to the nth degree. That used to be easy. And then it becomes funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:31 But when the end. degree is the reality. Right. Well, like, like, like 10 years ago, I could have said, yeah, and you know what's next, Donald Trump's going to be president. And it would have been funny 10 years ago. But when that's your reality, you know, you got no place to go. You have no place to go. When they're saying Mary didn't consent and she was underage, you know, well, I think the age disparity between Mary and God is pretty big. Yeah, I think it's wide, wide disparity. Pretty wide. You know, calling a cradle robber isn't going far enough.
Starting point is 01:41:08 When you've lived for eternity and she's 17, I mean, what do you even talk about? Yeah, not much. You know, I mean. What do you even have in common? You're creating universes. What is she doing? Riding a donkey? Please.
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Starting point is 01:43:21 promo code Beck. 1-800 Car60 100 or CarShield.com. All right, here's the exact words of Mary. We're told she didn't give consent. Yeah, Mary in the Bible. In the Bible. Yeah. When she's told by the angel, right. Okay, this Holy Spirit's going to overcome you and you're going to you're going to give birth to a baby and she said, how is this to be? And the angel explains it to her. And then Mary said, behold the handmaid of the Lord, be it unto me according to thy word. Listen to that. So she's quoting, she said yes. She said about, she was like, behold, look at Margaret
Starting point is 01:44:00 atwood's story about handmaid's tale right that's what she's saying there no that's not no she no she wasn't the the handmade tale hadn't debuted yet oh really not yet okay all right tvs yeah okay okay okay so the consent is there however the power dynamic yeah i mean consent can't be given i mean if you read his first book he gets angry a lot he does and she may have been afraid of losing her job right she was like i don't i don't i don't know No, he could fire me. If I say no, I might be out of a job. I might not get this storyline.
Starting point is 01:44:35 I've been working my whole life for this storyline in this book. And he's a hothead sometimes. So. So. It's crazy. There's another story out that we touched on this week that I'd like to get your opinion on. And that is that males today are, quote, abandoning the traditional male attributes and masculine values.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Yeah. And I read this story and I thought, I don't think those are masculine values. Yeah, this, what is a masculine value that we're pumping iron all the time? Isn't that what you got from it, too? Beating on people, yes. Yeah, you get the, the body and you're pumping iron and you're,
Starting point is 01:45:22 it's like the village people song, right? Macho man. Everybody wants to be a macho man, have the kind of body always in demand. Okay. And I wouldn't say that the village people were exactly masculine, you know. And so it's a combination of the village people in what? You know, world wrestling federation? Right.
Starting point is 01:45:42 You know, that's not. That's certainly not you and me. Can I tell you something? That if any of that, you know, good looking pumping iron being really physical fit, Rambo kind of stuff, all of the cartoon stuff, that is not what, I mean, look at Carrie Grant. Kerry Grant was the sex symbol for how long? Oh, big time. You ever see him in movies when he takes off his shirt?
Starting point is 01:46:06 You're like, he's not ripped. You're not really... He didn't have a six-pack. He got a little flat mapping there. I mean, I'm feeling a little better about myself. He had a normal. Normal body. Normal body.
Starting point is 01:46:16 I mean, he was in good shape, but it was normal. This whole thing of being all muscular and ripped and all that stuff, that's new. And that's, by the way, that's not a value. That's a trend. That's a fad. it. That's a fashion of value. I mean, what do you look at as traditional masculine values? I look at it as being a good husband and father.
Starting point is 01:46:38 Me too. Being somebody who doing your best to support your family. Correct. Do what you have to do in a good, positive way to support your family to make the sacrifices for your family to raise good, decent sons, to raise good, decent daughters, to have a good relationship, to leave your community better, or at least your family, better than the way you found it. And to my father told me the job of a son is to pick up the ball from his father when he leaves it on the field,
Starting point is 01:47:12 see if his father was running in the right direction, and if so, take it the rest of the way. Or knowing you'll never make a touchdown, just continue to make the family better. Take it as far as you can. Right. Isn't that what it should be? Well, and the article claimed that we're ditching the traditional masculine values and we're now more likely to embrace emotional strength. Were you ever taught as a man as a male growing up that emotional strength wasn't a positive attribute?
Starting point is 01:47:52 How do you mean? Wait, how do you mean emotional strength? because like I saw George Bush all weekend and all week at the 400 funerals, he had to attend and had cried, I think, at all of them. Right. But he also had tremendous emotional strength. He held back. He cried, but he held that back. And he was, when the guy was thinking enough to bring something for Michelle Obama to hand to her as a gift,
Starting point is 01:48:22 Michelle Obama at his own father's funeral, that's a good man. That's a man who is showing emotional strength. You notice how he would smile and try to uplift others. You know, the guy was dying inside. His dad just died. There's nothing more traditional than the way he behaved. But this research from the University of British Columbia apparently showed younger men tend to value selfishness,
Starting point is 01:48:54 social engagement, and health over traditional male values like physical strength and autonomy. Oh, selflessness. So selflessness. So that means that your traditional male value would be to be selfish. No.
Starting point is 01:49:09 And not engage. Those are not traditional. Those are not traditional values. They may have been the values of this last generation, but selflessness. Tell me the greatest generation wasn't selfless. Oh, tell me our grandparents weren't selfless. The sacrifice they gave?
Starting point is 01:49:26 Oh, my gosh. Tell me the pioneers were not selfless. Tell me the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they were selfless. It was, it was, it was, these people would, when it was okay to defend a woman, people would, people would defend a woman at their own life or own expense. They would try to stand for, you know, to help the, the poor or the, the downtrodden at their own expense.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Not all of them, but what we've always taught as something to strive to. This is why chivalry dying is so bad. Tell me how chivalry was selfish, selfish. It wasn't. Not at all. Not at all. Chivalry has absolutely everything the opposite to do with selfishness. But this is why it's so hard growing up now being a male
Starting point is 01:50:30 because you're bashed with this kind of stuff all the time. Non-stop. Your toxic masculinity stuff. Really, really damaging, I think. Have a great weekend. Try to relax. Stay safe. Get your holiday shopping done.
Starting point is 01:50:47 and love somebody in the moment. Just love them with everything you have.

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