The Glenn Beck Program - All the Ways Government SHREDDED Your Tax Dollars | Guests: Chip Roy & Kyle Seraphin | 4/18/23

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

Society is going downhill as Glenn and Stu discuss the ongoing push to allow transgender surgeries in children. Glenn warns that we are a lost country if the war between pronouns and truth leaves trut...h as the loser. Google's attempt at an AI to rival ChatGPT, called Bard, is failing, as Google admits it doesn't know what it's doing. Glenn and Stu discuss tax day and how the IRS has turned the entire process un-American. Federal whistleblower Kyle Seraphin joins to discuss his own FBI prosecution and debates why Americans are paying to be targeted. Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to discuss the debt ceiling debate happening within the House. Jennifer DeStefano, a mother, tells Glenn the horrifying story of her daughter's "kidnapping," which was a scam using artificial intelligence to mimic her daughter's voice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:00 Hey, you sick, twisted freak. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I want to talk to you a little bit about our society. Has anyone noticed things are getting a little weird? I want you to listen to Lauren Chen said on her Blaze TV show yesterday. Sam Smith currently is the wokenest celebrity in basically every category. I mean, he's embracing Satanism to give Christianity the middle finger. He's identifying as I think they, them, and omnigender or whatever it is. He's also gay because, of course, why wouldn't he be if he's into all of this stuff? And this is the newest part, as far as I'm aware, he's also now embracing body positivity and just overt sexuality.
Starting point is 00:02:40 We're talking actual bondage gear, being. used as costumes in his show. It's all just a great example of how slippery the slippery slope is. And I'm someone who grew up in the 90s. So I remember there were a lot of moms out there who were freaking out about how low-cut Britney Spears's jeans were. And at the time, I remember as a kid thinking that it was all just, you know, so much of an overreaction.
Starting point is 00:03:00 So she's wearing a bikini top on stage, so her pants are a little short. Ultimately, who cares? I mean, do we really have time for all this moral posturing? Well, now that I'm a bit older and I'm on myself, the answer is I care. And yes, we absolutely should make time to discuss this because ultimately this sets the tone for what our society is accepting and open to. And personally, I don't want to live in a society where overweight men are paraded around in lingerie and celebrated for it.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Well, I don't know if there's a problem with that. I mean, Mr. Beast doesn't seem to have a problem with this going on and, you know, destroying his career. That guy's screwed. Whichever way he turns, he's screwed. But I want to talk to you a little bit about, if you don't like to see the transgender, Saturday Night Live has introduced the real live Pat. Remember that sketch? Didn't know of it, boy or girl?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Pat is now actually a reality on Saturday Night Live. We'll start there in our quest to straighten out our culture just a little bit, remind you what's true and what's not. When you boil everything that's going on in our culture, when you boil it all down, it is the struggle between control and freedom. It is the struggle between good and evil. Evil has been made good and good evil. It is phenomenal how fast this has happened. It comes down to an understanding, really, of the law, God's law first, and then what are laws, man's laws for?
Starting point is 00:04:38 and how good laws help us. Once people get this, most of our problems go away. Wealth redistribution, legal plunder, using laws as weapons to hurt political opponents, Banana Republic, all of that stuff just swirls down the drain. If you would like to make sure your kids are armed with the truth, they need to learn so they won't be fooled in the first place. There's a free book from the Tuttle Twins.
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Starting point is 00:05:45 Yeah. That's a shock. Yeah, that's a shock. Now, I'm not saying that Molly Kearney, the addition of this very, very funny person, is, you know, part of the reason. But I'm not not saying it either. This is just a trend for Saturday Night Live. They can't go woke enough. and their comedy has for a long time been not laughs for laughs, it's been laughs to go,
Starting point is 00:06:16 yeah, yeah, that's right. And I agree 100% with that. It's all virtue signaling. So apparently, Molly Kearney, who identifies as non-binary and uses they-them pronouns, it's pat, was lowered down from the ceiling to. talk about trans rights and the need to keep trans kids safe. No, no, this is really funny. Why was she lowered down from the ceiling?
Starting point is 00:06:44 What? You just kind of threw that in there as if that was the normal way? Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Because, I mean, I'm looking at the picture. It's good, right? Yeah. It's pretty, pretty good look in there.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Yeah, yeah. But Pat was too. So, we have the SOT? Oh, we've got to play the SOT. This is fantastic. Dolfer. Dylan, this is James Oof. No, that's not.
Starting point is 00:07:06 There it is. I'm starting to feel like a freaking Republican lawmaker. Hello! Wow, that's an awesome transition. So as of this week, there are now over 14 states that have passed bills restricting health care for trans kids. Listen to that, Michael. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Restricting health care for kids. For some reason, there's something about the word trans that makes people forget the word kids. If you don't care about trans kids' lives, it means you don't care about freaking kids' lives. Wow. They just stopped being a comedy show. Oh,
Starting point is 00:07:43 they know. It's hilarious. They're just affecting so many people with this. This is wonderful. It's embarrassing. You don't even get the joke. What they're saying, that was such a stupid point that's supposed to be funny. It was so hilariously idiotic.
Starting point is 00:07:57 No person could actually believe that, oh, I want to Kurtz, I get such a dumb point. I get it now. I get it. That was very funny. Seriously, like, is there anyone saying you can't have, I don't know, aspirin, Advil, you know, flu, the flu shot? Can you get, can trans kids get the flu shot? Anyone opposing that?
Starting point is 00:08:21 I've never heard of anyone opposing that. I think what they're- You know what they can't get? Pampron. Okay? What they can't get pampern. Is surgery to alter their lives. A hormone therapy, again, this is only in some cases.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Hormone therapies to adjust. the way their bodies develop so they can't ever become the person they actually are. That is kind of the type of thing. They don't get no health care. They just don't get to make decisions. Their parents don't get to make decisions for them. Right. That alter their entire lives and cause them torture. Yeah. It's probably, you know, it's something, well, I mean, if I might quote, Finland's leading expert in the field of gender medicine. And I only go to Finland. Because that's a country we should be more like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Right? Dr. Rita Galatia. Wait, why are they rolling ours in Finland? They pointed to recent research in the field and said that it was purposeful disinformation to suggest that children and adolescents will commit suicide if not given access to experimental sex change procedures. People need to wake up. Huh. The rest of the world is off this train. We are just doubling down for some reason. And it is really, really bad. The transgender activist, do you remember who had a video that went viral after the Nashville shooting? A transgender person, you know, threatening with a gun and saying, you know, this is, this is what we're going to this is what we're going to do uh and threatening people with a gun
Starting point is 00:10:11 uh because they were advocating trans people to arm themselves uh against this genocide that they are facing um he's been fired but fired from the u.s forestry service and he now says that he was fired from the forest service because of the lies published by the daily mail newsweek and other and other right-wing tabloids. But more poignantly, I was fired by the Biden administration for being a trans woman that owns a gun.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Okay. This is all virtue signaling, and this has got to stop. Do you know, I'm going to get into this a bit next hour, but there was, you remember the manifesto
Starting point is 00:11:04 that happened. with the shooter in Nashville. I'm trying to look for the story here. There it is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:17 People like Glenn Greenwald are suing to be able to get the manifesto. And for some reason this manifesto is being deep-sixth. It's just gone.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Can't see it, can't read it, nobody can. Excuse me? So, They've had two law firms in Nashville. And they, uh, they had retaining letters from these, uh, from these law firms in Nashville. They were suing the FBI and the Nashville PD to get the manifesto through FOIA.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Both firms backed out. They had, they had the retainer letter. They both started on it and they both backed out. Now, what do you think that is? If you can't hire an attorney to represent you, if we can't get an attorney to file FOIAs and to get and to take people to court because they won't release information, you don't have a country, you don't have freedom anymore.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And these weak-ass spineless attorney, are pissing me off. You attorneys have gotten rich out of all of this crap that you've been shoveling forever. And now, when people's lives are at stake, our children are at stake, you decide you're no longer going to fight the big corporations. You're no longer going to fight the big guy.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Oh, you're not so David and Goliath now. You know what? Why? Because your firm will have corporations, we'll have pickets, will have the government, all come down on them. So you who pitched yourself as David against Goliath all this time, you're no David. You're no David. You've been in the pocket of Goliath apparently the whole time. You just want the money.
Starting point is 00:13:36 If you can't get the transjet, why are they hiding that? I don't know what's in there, but why are they hiding it? Why is this so sacred that we can't ever look at it? When we are having people who are clearly mentally ill, let's just be really, really frank about it. You want to dress as a woman, dress as a woman, fine. I'm not having you over in my house with the kids. and you're not going to teach in schools,
Starting point is 00:14:13 and you're certainly not going to strip in front of kids. But if you actually believe that you are a woman with the junk downstairs, even if you had the junk cut off, you are not a woman. You're not a woman. And that is a mental illness. And we have to start saying these things.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I don't hate anybody but I am not going to go down the road of other people's delusions we can't do it you know there was a great comment from Elon Musk he said the pronoun phenomenon
Starting point is 00:15:02 is virtue signaling and suggested that bad people use them as a shield pronouns are virtue signaling. So inevitably, with all virtue signaling, they will be used as a shield by bad humans. In any event, now listen to this, in any event, good manners require using the person's name, not their pronoun when referring to them.
Starting point is 00:15:25 That's the most polite way to deal with it. Carol, Bill, whatever your name is, but I'm not going to use she for a he. If we can't take this basic step that we all know to be true, we are a society lost to the world. If our churches cannot take this stand to say, look, call them by their name, leave out the pronoun, because the pronoun requires you to lie.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Take out the pronoun. do not lie about anything. Don't lie. Because the more we lie, the more we empower this insanity that is going on. By the way, the UN has a new report suggesting that normalizing pedophilia and decriminalizing all sexual activity, no matter what the age, is a good thing. This is from the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights. They published the report which calls for offenses related to sex, drug use, HIV, sexual and reproductive health, homelessness and poverty to be decriminalized. Sexual conduct between persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to have sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law.
Starting point is 00:17:02 The authors further advised lawyers, judges, and law enforcement to continue the rights and capacities of persons under 18 of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them. Okay, so wait a minute. Where do you draw the line on this? Where do you draw the line? Can a nine-year-old give consent? don't laugh because that argument is already being made. Kind of four-year-old? This is where we are and the only thing that corrects it is the truth.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And it's going to get harder and harder. If you think it's hard now, let it go for another year. It's going to become impossible. If you and your friends don't grow a spine right now, if you people who are attorneys won't represent people doing the law-abiding thing and suing the FBI and the Nashville police for that record that should be public record, if you won't stand now, do you really think you're going to, you think you're going to be a hero at some point when you fail to stand up when it's easy like this?
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Starting point is 00:20:44 Then a team of students raced against a team of teachers, which included the vice principal, to see which side could lick all the cream off first. Disturbing moments happened where the teachers and the students were licking on the same place right across from each other with only plexiglass between them. you know, I'm sure this was just a bad idea. I don't know. We just, it was a bad idea. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. And if this was truly just a bad idea,
Starting point is 00:21:25 you need to fire the person who came up with this idea. Okay. Enough is enough. Enough is enough. Loudoun schools, they have made bathrooms now co-ed to accommodate trans students. Now, remember, this is the school district. that had a rape several times in a bathroom.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Okay? So what do you do? Well, we're going to have the trans people go in to everybody's bathroom. So they've just spent, I don't know, $10 million to renovate the bathrooms. And what they did is they put the stalls all the way to the ceiling and the floor. So now, you know, now, now I guess nobody would know. You could just go in there and you could go in with a girl.
Starting point is 00:22:13 You can do whatever you want to the girl and who's going to know. This is ridiculous. They're all upset because, oh, now look at what we've done. Somebody is going to be in trouble and they'll die in there and nobody will know. We'll just take a transgender bathroom and put it off by itself, period. What is wrong with you? We have to protect our children. Who's thinking of the children first?
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Starting point is 00:24:41 stop loading the machines with Google as its default browser and go to Bing. Not confirmed yet. They're in a negotiation, but apparently Google was stunned. Of course they were. By the development.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Bing has sucked forever. Going to Bing. Yeah. And that was one of the things that made them really freak out about AI and caused them to release Bard, which is their version of AI, maybe earlier than was initially expected. And having played with it a little bit, it's like, it does not seem like it's ready, ready to go. So here is, here's the head of Google, because Bard was not ready, anybody who uses it knows that. Bard is not ready.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And they're just jamming things through the pipeline now. So they're not left in the dust. Well, a Sunday on 60 minutes, a show nobody watches anymore. The CEO of Google sat down and said, yeah, I mean, there's an aspect of this in which we call a black box. You know, we don't we don't fully understand how it comes up with. an answer. I mean, you can't quite tell why it said this or why it got it wrong. We have some ideas and I'm sure our ability to understand this will get better over time, but that's where the state of the art is. You're releasing something that is making decisions and you don't
Starting point is 00:26:20 understand. One of the reasons, remember we told you this years ago, that Microsoft was dealing with a chatbot and it taught itself another language. It was going two chatbots they put together, and they started talking to each other. And within, I think it was like 14 minutes, they started teaching each other a language that no one watching understood by 17 minutes in. It was all that language, and they unplugged it.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Okay? You're not good. This is alien life. You don't know how this is. is going to end up. But Google is like, yeah, well, we don't understand the human mind either. Yeah, so let's not introduce another one. What do you say?
Starting point is 00:27:08 But there's no way to stop this. Now, Elon Musk is doing his best to get people to slow down on it. But I don't know how you do that. China's not going to do this. He was on with Tucker Carlson last night and Elon Musk was talking about AI. He said, the dangers of AI could have a more detrimental impact than just elections, saying it will have a calamitous impact on the existence of humanity in its entirety if it is not managed properly. So now let me ask you a question. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:27:48 Can we have this as just regular people? Not experts, just regular people. Because I trust regular people much more than I trust the experts lately. What do we do? Do we have the government put regulations in it? So the government is involved in AI? Do we have the government? Like the Manhattan Project,
Starting point is 00:28:10 do we have the government just do it because they are doing it. They are involved. They will be the first recipient of anything that we have going on. And they're doing quantum computing too. Do you feel comfortable with the government being the gatekeeper of who can use AI and who can't? Or if it gets too dangerous, they'll be the only ones to have it. I'm not comfortable with that. That's why I don't want China developing it.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Are you comfortable with us saying we're going to put a moratorium on it and let China get it first? I'm not comfortable with that. So what is it we do? We fix ourselves. look at what we're doing right now. We are working on something that is as game-changing as the Manhattan Project. And it's as if we have, you know, they're going to, but they're just about to put a red button on everyone's phone.
Starting point is 00:29:19 So anyone could launch a missile. And we're like, that's cool. It's kind of scary, though, isn't it? Yeah, I guess, but, I mean, they wouldn't put it on our phone. Look how convenient it is. I can win arguments. I just have to push the little red button. What are you crazy?
Starting point is 00:29:39 It is that dangerous in the hands of wrong people. Told you yesterday how you could easily just collapse the banking system with this. Easily, today you could do that. No, thank goodness. I don't. Well, I bet you people are working on it, but it's not happening yet. but it will the invisible hand of the market, remember, is not a good or a bad hand. It depends on the people who are using it.
Starting point is 00:30:21 The invisible hand of the market gives us what we want because of who we are. So what is it? Look around. What is it that we want? power, money, fame? Wow. Control. Technology is just technology.
Starting point is 00:30:48 It's like the internet. It's going to be both good and bad. And you're never going to put the internet back into its bottle unless you collapse, you know, energy. Fry all the chips and you're just not able to make them anymore. You can't put it back in the bottle. The problem is not the gun. The problem is not. In this case, it might be the app.
Starting point is 00:31:12 But the only thing we can really change is ourselves. That's it. Did you see the poll that came out from a professor who's been doing a poll? He says 40,000 people have done this, taken this poll. He said, I've run it several times and I keep getting the same results. Which universe is the better one? one with humans or one without humans? How do you think that was answered?
Starting point is 00:31:46 40,000 people took this poll. How do you think it was answered? You're not willing to say, huh? No, I mean, the fact that you're bringing this up has to be that people are saying that it would be better without humans. Okay, no, thank goodness no. No? But it's 58 to 41. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Closer than it should be. A lot closer. than it should be. We are, we're living with people. I'm going to give you one of the biggest stories of the day next hour about the latest in these crazy climate people on what they're saying about food stuffs. These people, they will starve the world to death. They'll starve the world to death.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And I think there's a lot of people that'll be like, okay, so what's wrong with that? that aren't thinking that, oh, you know, that might be you. We have to restore the gods of the copybook headings. We have to restore those things that we knew to be true, eternally true. And it just starts in our own lives. It's not that hard. Well, yes, it is. It is actually really hard.
Starting point is 00:33:13 I mean, especially when, I mean, have you heard, a new licking game where you can get children to lick whip cream or marshmallow fluff on one side of plexiglass and then you as an adult could lick on the other side. Yeah. It's just a game, Stu, that we're playing in schools now. Sounds a game. Totally normal.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah. Yeah. They're even screwing up marshmallows these days. That's the state of our world. Well, I will tell you. I think that started with Ghostbusters one, but maybe that's just me. Getting yourself and your family out of debt has always been important, but I think you'll agree it's more critical now than ever before. Whatever is coming down the pike at us, it's racing really fast. You know, the birth pangs of things to come.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I've talked about that for years. Since I was on CNN, I had Condi Rice on and she said, these are the birth pangs of the things to come. And that really bothered me as I was like, uh, birth pangs get stronger and stronger. and closer and closer together and then you give birth to something. Have you noticed how fast the birth pangs are coming? One right after another. We're about to give birth to something.
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Starting point is 00:37:42 We need to study, debate, dissect, compare, contrast, the Holocaust. Because we're not honoring the dead by honoring them and then just going, yep, do, do, do this is what does it take to get there? Didn't all of a sudden happen? Millions of little teeny steps. By the way, did you see, I love Elon Musk. He is now flagging, you know, NPR and PBS as government-funded agencies. he's now done it to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Radio New Zealand, Australia Broadcasting Corporation, tagging them all with government-funded media. Now, he also said government-funded media on the BBC, but he has rebranded that as publicly-funded media.
Starting point is 00:38:40 So now everybody's like, oh, I want it publicly. Publicly funded sounds way better. Way better. But isn't it amazing how much they're screaming about this? Yeah, did you see, too, that he, Elon Musk was, I guess the CBC, the Canadian broadcasting company came back and said, yeah, we're only 70% we're less than 70% government funded. So he changed it to 69% government funded. Oh my gosh, that is so funny. This just seems like he's just, he just paid $44 billion to screw around. Oh, I think it's great.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I mean, it is entertaining. By the way, on the CBC website, it admitted they take over a billion dollars in operating funds. funding, 109 million in capital funding and 4 million in working capital from the government this year alone. And seeing that less than 4% of the population of Canada is now tuning in to the CBC, they're asking for an additional $150 million. That's crazy. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Why would you do that? 4% of the population. It's just this insanity. And think about that and all the money that we sent to Washington on this tax day. Internalize where your money goes. Think about all the weeks and weeks and weeks you go into work to support this thing that does nothing for you. Nothing. It's so infuriating when you really think about it.
Starting point is 00:40:13 You know, I don't think tax day has ever been. as grotesque. Yeah. As tax day today in the last few years, when you see they are just spending money on, you know, we used to say the turtle tunnels, that was $3 million for the turtle tunnel. Turtle tunnels. I'll take turtle tunnels at this point. How about we not just give, you know, $100 billion over to the Ukrainian thugs who's just laundering that stuff?
Starting point is 00:40:45 I mean, we are spending money that is nuts. But again, I always come back to this, which is the $3 million for the Turtle Tunnel, if that exists, wherever that exists. We talk about that. It's a come and go story, right? We bring it up one day. We mock it. It goes away. And then there's another one in three months.
Starting point is 00:41:06 But for almost every human being in the audience, that $3 million is more in taxes than you'll ever pay in your entire life. entire life and your children will ever pay. You'll just keep paying and paying and paying and working and working and working and working. And you will not even pay off that one turtle tunnel. That is how revolting this whole process is. You will just keep pay all your life's work will go and go and go and go. And I would say $3 million. We used to talk about this and say, you know, your entire life and maybe even your kids' lives.
Starting point is 00:41:42 With inflation at this point, that might not be true anymore. I mean, like, maybe you will pull up, you may pay off a few turtle tunnels with your taxes now. Because your money's not going to be worth anything. But the point is, geez. It's just depressing. Even the rounding errors of these programs, all of your money will go into their errors. The money they've lost. The money that they spent on stuff they can't even account for.
Starting point is 00:42:07 All of your life's work. You see that they're blaming now this leak. They're blaming it and saying, we have to monitor these websites now, these gaming websites. We have to crack down and monitor everything online now. Really, why? Because of your mistake, we have to pay with our freedom for a mistake you made. You let it out.
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Starting point is 00:45:41 I mean, every tax day comes and I'm thinking, man, they are putting my money to good use. I mean, I couldn't come up with the ideas and ways to spend like they can. I'm so glad I worked, you know, four months out of the year to be able to just pay taxes, you know, so they could lose it in far away places or use it for abortions. Or what I really, really like is when they use it on Davos kind of stuff. Oh, it's so great. So, so great. I felt ultra-patriot.
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Starting point is 00:47:52 Mypatriotsupply.com. Ah, Stu. I have known you for 27 years. That can't be possible. Really? About that. Oh, it's not that long, is it? It's almost.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I hope not. Yeah, well. 25. Weird. Something like that. Anyway, too long. Too long. I've never known you to pay your taxes on time, ever.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I don't think I've done it in that time period. Yeah. Now, it's possible at some point. You have at some point. You always file for an extension. Always file for an extension. Why? Well, I mean, part of it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. When you, like in, let's say you're 2013 and you file for an extension.
Starting point is 00:48:40 You got to pay that by October. Then you're like two months away from the forms, you know, from coming in. So like, it's like, it just feels. really close. You just did them. And then all of a sudden, you got to do them again. It's too close. I need an extension. So then it just, you just wind up shifting the entire calendar. Got it. Okay. Well, that makes, instead of April to April like everyone else. But I will say, as time has gone on, there have been, you know, I don't like to admit that a couple of good things have happened in my working
Starting point is 00:49:09 career with you and things have, you know, improved in some ways. And in those ways, they have, while a lot of good things come from maybe some extra income and such. It also complicates your tax forms. And now my full-time job is actually doing my taxes. And my part-time is this. He has to go to the bank more now. Gosh, I feel bad for you. I mean, your ATM car gets worn down.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I know. It's just, no. Oh, man. Honestly, like, he's got to build a pool now. Compared to you and your taxes, mine are super simple. Right? Like yours. So I pay taxes in all 50 states. Well, probably point out all 50 because some of them don't have state income tax. Thank you. Thank you, Texas. Thank you, Tennessee. Thank you, Florida. Good. Thank you. So I pay any state that is charging tax. And I think, I don't even know how it works. I think it started when I started traveling and doing shows in states. I remember that. T-shirts. Now, if we sell T-shirts or anything in any state, I think I have to pay for it. I don't, I don't really know. I think. It's a scam myself.
Starting point is 00:50:17 We're just bribing up each state just to not come out for us. Usually it's like no big deal. I owe the state of Georgia like $23,000. I don't even think I was in Georgia last year. Georgia, what are you doing to me? What did I do? Did I sell like a whole bunch of the blazed socks or something? Because I don't get that money.
Starting point is 00:50:42 So maybe usually, I don't know. Seriously. what did we sell or was I in Georgia? I don't remember you being in Georgia, but it's possible you were there. I don't think so. One of the things they do, especially for, they call it the jock tax. And it started really because of like baseball players. And, you know, baseball player, you know, you might be living in Texas.
Starting point is 00:51:05 But you go play a game in California. And California's like, oh, wait a minute. That guy makes a lot of money. And he was here for a weekend. I pay New York, New York State. New York City and California. If I ever broadcast, they make me pay tax for the number of days that I have been there. Yeah, they act like you worked there for one day and therefore you owe us income tax,
Starting point is 00:51:27 which is, of course, a completely ridiculous standard. But of course, they apply it. And they apply it largely to people who are in the media or who are playing for sports teams because everyone knows where you are. Right. Like, you know, if you're a person who's just working a normal job and you're- Nobody really cares. You're filing some spreadsheets out in California for a day. No one does anything.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Yeah, and likely your boss isn't asking, is Fred here today? Where's Fred? You're right. Exactly. Especially with the homework thing. It's a totally different scenario. I mean, I know people who went, who just like bought campers during COVID. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And just like we're working every day from a different location and just investigating and going through the United States and checking out new areas. That's why campers are so cheap right now. They really are. Really? They're like crazy cheap. because they tried. Everybody bought a camper like, this is the end.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I got to get into a camper. And they're like, okay, it wasn't the end. I'm never going to use this again. I didn't really like driving on those roads. They actually went to the national parks. Holy cow,
Starting point is 00:52:29 we'll never do that again. But back to the taxes part of this, like I have now at the point where like I have five forms that I know I have that have not come in. And I get notes from the people. They're like, ah, yeah, I couldn't get this done.
Starting point is 00:52:43 And we'll get it to you in a couple months. It'll be to you before October, though. Don't worry about it. It's like, okay, well, thank you. And I guess extension time. And the best part about an extension, Glenn. And I don't know if you've enjoyed that. I'm sure you have.
Starting point is 00:52:56 But I know you try to avoid this stuff as much as possible thinking about it. I keep so far away from anything. Extension, I don't need an extension. Why would I need an extension? I want to do my patriotic duty. I stay so far away from anything gray. To be clear, an extension is not gray. Oh, I know it's not.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I know it's not. But to me, it's just one of those things. Why didn't he pay his taxes? Well, basically. Why didn't he do it? But you've got to do basically a guesstimate. How much do I owe these people? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:23 And you're like, okay. And of course, if you don't want to get penalized, you have to overestimate how much you're paid. Right. Right. So you've got to dump a bunch of money to the government. And then overpay them a little bit because you don't want to get to the point where you underpaid because even if you underpay on a real normal misunderstanding,
Starting point is 00:53:43 they'll act as if you did it on purpose and penalize you for it. This is so absolutely un-American. This whole thing is un-American. It really is. You know, the IRS coming to audit you, do you have a warrant? Specifically, what is it you are saying, I did? Yeah. A warrant requires you to say, because this is why we broke, one of the reasons why
Starting point is 00:54:08 we broke away from the King of England. He could just, I think it's a writ of a detainer or something like. like that. I can't remember. But the king would just hand these out and it was a general warrant. And it was like Stu was doing something in his house, go in and look for it. Okay. Well, you can't do that. You could, but that's one of the first things we stopped. Well, the IRS does that. Stu, looks like Stu might have done something. Give us all your receipts for the last seven years. And it's not even that. It's like they don't even really even believe. They didn't have to have a belief of what you did wrong or if you did anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:54:47 We're just going to check all your work. And you know what? Who are you to tell me to check my work? I'd like to check yours. Did you see that the Inspector General's office for the IRS came out and said, you need to do a study because these people are making the same mistakes over and over again? What is it you guys are doing that is causing these people to ask the same questions and have the same mistakes? and their answer was, no.
Starting point is 00:55:15 No, we're not going to do the study. We're not going to. No, I'm just suggesting that maybe you look in because it would be easier. No. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. This would be so easy if it was a flat tax.
Starting point is 00:55:28 So easy. I made this, subtract this from that, put it in an envelope, send it. Okay? I mean, that's how easy it is. This is a, this has become so common. complex. I'm sitting with attorneys and I'm trying to do the right things. And I'm sitting with the tax attorneys just a couple of weeks ago. And I'm like, okay. So what is the law on this? Well, nobody really knows. Some people think this. Some people think that. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:56:04 what kind of law is this? Because if you have, now, luckily we don't have one. If you have a country, that is a little lawless and just applies the law differently to different people, you can go after your enemies just through the tax law. Because, no, that's not the way I read it. Yeah, everyone likes to praise the old Al Capone. Oh, they got him on tax evasion. Yeah, you know, I mean, like, they could do that to anybody. They got him.
Starting point is 00:56:36 They did. They got him on money laundering. Yeah. He was laundering the money and didn't pay. taxes on the money from the laundry service. Right, but they put it, like, they basically put him in a position where it was impossible. Because if he put the, if he put the money on the tax forms, it would have been he's laundering money.
Starting point is 00:56:56 If he doesn't put it on there, then he's tax evasion. Right. But the basic thing is, but the basic thing is he was making illegal money. I have no problem. If the IRS is, if I'm selling drugs, you know what I mean, and I'm laundering it through a laundromat, if the only one, I'm not. way to stop me from selling drugs to kids, I'm clearly a bad guy breaking the law, is because the only thing you can find on me is income tax where I'm taking all that drug money and laundering
Starting point is 00:57:24 it. I have no problem with that. I think, though, when you think of that story fundamentally, of course, anyone who does something illegal, like, if you're laundering money, you should be penalized for it. If you've done something illegal, obviously we're all against that. But the way that story is used is when someone's doing something really bad and you know about it and you can't prove it, go after I'm on something else. Eventually, through taxes or something, you'll get them. No, that's how that story is often utilized. So let me take it from Al Capone and make it Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden, the reason why Al Capone, they couldn't get him on anything is because he was protected. He had a complete lock on the press. He had a complete lock with those who were doing
Starting point is 00:58:10 any kind of banking with him. He had thugs to silence people. He had the power to get away with it. And so it's not like, I think somebody is doing some wrong. It's somebody that you, you know, but no one will step up to the plate. And it's such a heinous crime. Guys, find the window into this. I mean, this is the way I'm beginning to feel about the Bidens. Look, I don't want to go after anybody for any, if you committed a crime, we go after you for the crime, you may have committed. This is so clear that the FBI and everybody else is just turning a blind eye that you can look at it and go, you know, the only way you're going to get justice is if you get
Starting point is 00:59:06 some you get somebody like uh what was his name uh that led the the treasury department on this uh gosh what was his name uh shoot elliot ness oh yeah i thought you're talking about the biden's thing when you have no no no when you have elliot nest you need somebody like an elliot nest to step in and go yeah i'm not with the rest of the treasury i'll give you who elliot nests is right now alvin brag that is exactly what's going on with don't trump right now they've they have decided he's so evil, they have to find something on him. But they have decided to create... No, no, no, no. They're part of the corrupt system that today's Al Capone is running.
Starting point is 00:59:47 They're part of that corrupt system. You're seeing it from the other side I'm seeing it from. But like, you're always the guy who says, how is this going to be used essentially against us? And it is being used against conservatives right now. This, look, I'm not critical of the Al Capone thing. No, I do think this is what government says. do. What they're doing with Trump right now is this man is so evil, he's so Hitler, he's so Satan,
Starting point is 01:00:15 that it doesn't matter if the things we're charging him with are real or not. We just go after him right. No matter what. Find something in this 65,000 pages of law that we can convince a couple of people that he's evil on and then we'll throw him away forever. That's the corrupt system. Okay? That's the corrupt court system of Al Capone. Donald Trump, there is no crime.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And if it is a crime, it's a misdemeanor. This is like Al Capone, the worst thing he ever did was J-Walk. And they get him for income tax evasion. That's a legitimate laundry. What are you talking about? I'm a laundromat. Yes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:59 I mean, there are two sides of the same story here. Like, obviously the Al Capone thing was a lot more serious. but you do see how these governments, when you give them this tax code with 100 million rules that nobody understands, to the point of I talk to my accountants, and I asked them, I said, how is this supposed to be treated? They go, as you point out, I don't know. Some people say this. Some people say that. There's nothing clear in the law.
Starting point is 01:01:25 How does a society operate under this? You don't. It's ridiculous. It causes you to be fearful of the, that's why people are fearful of the IRS. I know I've never cheated. on my taxes. Never. And I would say that, you know, if I cheated on my, no, I wouldn't because then I would be a dishonest person, but I've never cheated on my taxes. Never. But still, you have the fear of, oh, man, they could come knocking at your door. I mean, they've audited me once the
Starting point is 01:01:51 first year that Obama was in. I got an audit. Shocking. Yeah. Clear. I think they even owed me money. So it was clear. But it still is something that you're like, oh, no, not the IRS. Right. And I know because of this job, I go way above and beyond of what even I think is legitimate or fair or legal. Because I'm terrified that they're going to come after us. For a political purpose. Right. For a political purpose. I just assume it's going to
Starting point is 01:02:16 happen every year. So, you know, you go way out of your way to make sure. But still, like, that's not, that's insane. I'll tell you who the Elliott Ness is. The Elliott Ness is not from New York. I'll tell you who the Elliott Ness is in just a second. Not a lot surprises me
Starting point is 01:02:32 anymore. You give the government overreach. You know, we've seen it, been there, gotten the T-shirt to prove it. Oh, yeah, really? But we're actually watching our country go down a path towards a banana republic in real time. Who was it? Carol Roth said to me, it's like watching a train derailment in slow motion. We're seeing it. We all are. We have to stand up. And how do we do that? Well, in little ways. a whole bunch of little ways. One of them is making sure you're spending money with the right people when you can. Sometimes you don't have a choice.
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Starting point is 01:04:30 He's one of the guys who's like, no, I'm going to stand against this. This is wrong. what's happening, what they're trying to do is wrong. He's also a practicing Catholic. He's got a problem with the FBI's misuse of resources. These are the kinds of guys that Elliot Ness was. Remember, Elliot Ness, if you watch the movie Untouchables, he was just a squeaky clean guy.
Starting point is 01:05:00 He was offended by people who were dirty. He didn't want anything to do with it. That's why Sean Connery said, It's such a carolet. And he ended up bloody. I just say, Kevin Costner didn't. He still looked great in a nice, very well-cut suit. Anyway, he was a really do-gooder.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Let's go do good. Those are the kinds of people that we need to stop the corruption. And those are the very people the FBI and the Justice Department are targeting. That's why our voice is so important to stand up for these people. Kyle's going to bring us up to speed on his situation with the FBI, and then we're going to talk a little bit about how the government is just targeting the Catholic Church. It's a Catholic president, or he says he is, I know he's not, but really targeting Catholics. in the Catholic Church.
Starting point is 01:06:06 The FBI? No. Yeah. Kyle Serafin next. The Glenn Beck Program. Have you fed your dog yet today? How do he or she like it? How much nutritional good do you think it's doing him?
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Starting point is 01:09:37 And you can find out all about that at wallbuilders.com. or at United We Pledge.org. Get your tickets now. All right. Stu, I have Kyle Serfin is supposed to be on with us here in a second. This is the guy who has, he said, no, I'm not going to take the COVID vaccine. So they put him on leave. And he's been on leave now forever.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And they said the latest letter he received from the FBI basically said, we're going to charge you with felonies, misdemeanors. We have all kinds of policy violations. And they all stem from his COVID-19 test. He said, I'm not going to get it every 72 hours. I'm not going to do it. And then he started to engage in 2021 in whistleblower activities. And he's still part of that.
Starting point is 01:10:40 but there's no protection for him. He's blowing the whistle on the power. And the power in the media have, you know, they have their narrative. All whistleblowers are not equal. They're not. They're not. They're not. They're not.
Starting point is 01:10:54 No. And so he is resigning now after 10 months of non-paid status. And he's filed all of this on Twitter. What's interesting is, and I, was hoping he would be on today, but I think we're going to miss him. What's interesting is his father was the head of KRLD here in Dallas, Texas. When Waco happened, he was the vice president and station manager of KRLD, and they did all of the news coverage. and David Koresh reached out to him, this FBI agent's dad, and said,
Starting point is 01:11:41 uh, I, I just, we want our message heard. And it was at the end of the standoff. And he said, if you just air my interview, a conversation with me, we'll surrender. And he went back and forth, didn't know what was the right thing to do. Yeah. First, it was a message in exchange for releasing children. children, right? And they would play his message on the air and then they would release two children. And that happened several times, if I remember right. And then it was he said he would surrender if they played, I think it was a 58 minute, you know, manifesto-ish type of thing from Koresh, which they did play. And then he did not surrender that that time. Yeah. Yeah. However, he said that, you know, after he saw what the FBI did, he was wrestling, do I run this?
Starting point is 01:12:33 manifesto or not. This is not good. And then he afterwards, he thought, were we on the right side? No. And kind of went back and forth. I'd love to talk to his dad because where did he end up? Now, especially that his son is an FBI agent and being held out because he's like, no, I won't cross these lines. Yeah. And we're at the, what, 30th anniversary of Waco? Tomorrow, I think is the 30th anniversary of Waco. Yeah. We're doing a, we're doing a special. We thought it would be appropriate on the day of Waco. Does the FBI help or hurt American citizens?
Starting point is 01:13:13 Have we learned anything from Waco? Tomorrow we're going to show you how to redo houses in incredible ways and then resell them for more money. Really? Is that what we? That's what we've learned from Waco now. I think there was something else that happened in Waco 30 years ago. But now Waco is the place. place where you go to
Starting point is 01:13:32 redo a house and then resell it. U.S. agencies have been weaponized against us, its own citizens, and it's now out of control. That show is tomorrow at 9 p.m. Isn't it weird how the gains have... Because Waco was only known for this. It was only known. Yeah. It didn't even
Starting point is 01:13:51 happen in Waco, right? It was outside of Waco. Yeah. It was near Waco. And it was like wacky Waco. Right. It was crazy. Yeah. And just these two people who have come together and like helped with, you know, with this and built, I mean, I don't know if you've been down there at all recently, but they built like kind of like their own little city. Oh, it's great.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Oh, my gosh, they have a compound. The games have a compound. They do. There's a great bakery there. Oh, my gosh. This is a compound. We got to figure out what's going on in that bakery. Anyway, Kyle is joining us now.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Kyle, we only have a couple of minutes here, but I wanted to touch base with you. Tell me about what is, are you officially employed? by the FBI now or not? Have they stopped their threats of, you know, felonies? They haven't gotten back to me at all, but it's sort of like a girlfriend who breaks up with you, burns all your stuff in the front yard, and you come home, and then she asks why you're breaking up with her.
Starting point is 01:14:47 That's kind of my feeling about it at this point. Okay. So I went ahead and let them down easy. I let them know that I'm happy to resign after 10 months of not being paid and not being considered one of their employees and, you know, 12 months after they took my badge and my gun away. guess I will acknowledge that I don't work for them since they couldn't do it. Wow, you are, I mean, they are coming after you with everything.
Starting point is 01:15:08 They say that you're, uh, uh, you intentionally misused your weapon during firearms training. That's right. Yeah, they did. I mean, they just, they'll throw anything at you to, uh, scare you and to keep you quiet. Um, yeah, that's true. I wanted to know, your, your father was, uh, played a real role, uh, played a real role, uh, with Waco. And what I read said that he had struggled back and forth on, you know, did we do the right thing? Did I do the right thing? Did, did that play any role in your life and decision to become an FBI agent and how you view the FBI? Certainly did. Yeah, there's no question about it. That was my first experience. In fact, that was part of a lot of the interviews I did with the Bureau early on when I was going through the hiring process because, you know, my father's experience basically said that the ATF was a bunch of clowns. and they had done a bunch of really funny things,
Starting point is 01:16:04 and silly things that he couldn't square with a top-tier sort of federal law enforcement agency. And then, you know, he had this completely different experience with the special agent in charge of the Dallas Field Office at that time. And he always thought they were really just a squared-away crew that they were very professional, that they came in and handled business the way they needed to. I think a lot of his misgivings about the way things went down. He wasn't sure if he did, you know, not telling people that David Koresh was suicidal, not telling people that David Koresh spoke about himself in the past tense during the Waco standoff, where that was the right thing to do.
Starting point is 01:16:37 But he was concerned that that was going to trigger an even worse reaction than what had happened. And so he, you know, that was one of those things that you get, you know, in the radio world and in the, I don't know a lot of scruples about what people would release and what they would say, because they knew there were real world consequences for what they said on air. Did, how does your dad feel? Is your dad still alive? He is, yes, absolutely. How does your dad feel about the FBI now? I think he's incredibly disappointed.
Starting point is 01:17:07 He always tells me he's proud of what I was doing. You know, a lot of the fight that he took to CBS Radio at the time that he was involved with them and some of the ethics complaints that, you know, my dad was kind of a fighter. I'm sort of the same way. Once we've set ourselves on a set of principles, the principles are far more important than the job. Yeah. And so I think he emphasized with where I was coming from. And, in fact, you know, sheltered my family in his house for six months,
Starting point is 01:17:30 despite the fact that it was pretty uncomfortable for all of us. But it was one of those things that had to be done. I think he's on board. So, Kyle, let me switch the subject here real quick to, I think the last time we spoke, the Justice Department was standing by Merrick Garland saying, we are not targeting Catholics. This is ridiculous. It was only one person that was doing that.
Starting point is 01:17:55 We quickly threw that out. And we find out now that's not true at all. That's right. Yeah. So they were digging into these diocese or these various parishes that were, in the diocese of Richmond. It sounds like there was an undercover there. I haven't seen the documents that Jim Jordan people have uncovered.
Starting point is 01:18:11 I don't know if they've been made public at all. But even with what I reread, I went back and reread the particular insult product that I released. And what it essentially stated was that you could tell that there was a firsthand source of information that was that was part of the bureau. And the assessment that I've made, and my buddy who kind of had a joke about the 51 in-Centure Biden laptop was disinformation. We say that that Intel product has an undercover actually writing it. And so there's a strong belief among the guys that I work with that not only did the Bureau have an undercover,
Starting point is 01:18:50 but that undercover may have been an analyst who actually wrote the individual. Whoever wrote it, knew a lot about Catholic, you know, the inside baseball of the Catholic Church, more than I know, to be fair, as a Catholic for 40-something years. You know, he went to Georgetown University, the analyst who wrote it, an act to grind against maybe the more conservative part of the church, with the Bureau kind of let them off the least to write that. And more interesting that the chief division counsel signed off on it. Why? Because he didn't have an ax to grind?
Starting point is 01:19:22 That's right. It's totally bizarre. It's really, you know, it's another one of these instances. My first whistleblower allegation was not so much that people were being watched at school board meetings by the FBI. There's a potential for that to be a federal crime if you make an interstate threat. So there is a nexus for the Bureau to get involved. But when the attorney general says we're not going to use counterterrorism resources. That looks like perjury to me. I'm just one guy. But, you know, obviously the
Starting point is 01:19:47 office that Jim Jordan received it with thought the same thing. And this is the same kind of situation. You know, the attorney general got up and said, I don't think we have any sources. In fact, they definitely did. That starts looking like perjury. These are, these should be real problems for all Americans because we should expect these people to at least not lie under oath at the very minimum. Yeah. Kyle, thank you so much. I'm glad to hear then, and please keep us up to date. If, you know, they do still keep coming after you, we'd like to hear about it. And thanks for the whistleblowing and all that you do. God bless you. Yeah, it's my pleasure. Thanks so much for having me on. You bet. Kyle Serafin, it is, it's really fun when you can look at something in a new
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Starting point is 01:22:33 It doesn't happen. You can't have his rank and be able to go find. It's just not the way the system works. He said, I don't understand it. Maybe things have changed. Well, apparently not. There is a new quote out from former director of the National Intelligence, Cash Patel. he said, you can't do this.
Starting point is 01:22:59 He said, Cheshara would not have had access to the information without someone within the Department of Defense or the intelligence community giving it to him, providing it to him, or telling him he should put it out there. It's just not possible. You could be the biggest IT in the DOD, but you're still compartmented off of the actual information. Almost never does an IT person need to know, as we say, the substance of intelligence. It's their job to secure information systems around it to protect any disclosures. Now, they are now saying that the media needs to, you know, shore itself up to not reveal any kind of top secret information. and they're saying they need new powers to be able to go in and just monitor everything online. No, no.
Starting point is 01:23:59 How about you tell us how this happened? I mean, you guys leaked it. So this is not our problem or the Internet's problem or really anybody else. How did he get this information specifically? because something's clearly broken if this kid can get it. So tell me how it happened. Tell me how you're going to fix it. And then we can all go on and on with our lives,
Starting point is 01:24:32 knowing that our secure information is secure. All right, more in a minute. The Glenn Beck Program. Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We have the one and only Chip Roy. Congressman from the great state of Texas who has a message for Democrats. Prepare yourself for a knockout, dragout fight on the debt ceiling limit.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Oh, I hope he can back that up. I hope he can back that up. We're going to talk to him in 60 seconds. So tax time's always stressful. I mean, I feel very patriotic today. This is, you know, this is the day that I'm like, oh, I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy. Look at all the good I'm doing, right? sending all my money. It won't pay for any one thing, but I've worked four months to send it in.
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Starting point is 01:27:18 Chip, how are you, sir? Glenn, how are you, sir? Good. I should actually pay more respect to you. I mean, you're a Chip to me, but Congressman. It's good to have you on. Nah. Now, look, we're friends and that means a lot. Like, at the end of the day, we get these titles.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Titles don't mean much unless you earn it. And Congress needs to earn their titles. Yeah. We are, we are, we're looking at a big battle. The Republicans always fail on this. They always lose their spine at the last minute. And, uh, and that's why we're in the mess we're in right now. You don't have any control or any lever.
Starting point is 01:27:59 of anything the administration is doing so they can spend and do whatever they want because you no longer have the purse strings. The House representatives do control the purse strings. What we, Congress, have historically done, was given the president too much power and not use those purse strings to rein in the president. This is at the center of what we're talking about. Right now, I believe the speaker has done a good job laying out the baseline. I don't mean the baseline in the budget sense, but the sort of the floor, which is,
Starting point is 01:28:33 we need to go back to 2022 levels of spending, which to restrain the bureaucracy. We could cut it back to pre-COVID levels, basically. But then we need to be very specific about trying to undo the damage that this president has been doing, both in terms of legislation that has passed, as well as executive action. We need to undo the damage of the Inflation Reduction Act, so-called, which has all these ridiculous green subsidies, which would destroy our ability to have economic growth and energy freedom. We need to undo the damage of the IRS proposal. which will hang these bureaucrats going out to the American people who are trying to just go through their life and sick tax agents after them.
Starting point is 01:29:10 We need to make sure that we're going to, you know, peel back some of these executive actions, like the president's trying to get in the way of states who want to deal with our own decisions on the transgender bathrooms or the pistol braces and other things that affect our freedoms. These are all things we can be doing. The World Health Organization needs to be stopped. You and I've talked about that a lot.
Starting point is 01:29:28 It's ridiculous. These are things that we can do using the power of the purse. Now, I'm not saying we get all of that, but Republicans better damned well fight for those things, force it as far as we can get it, and then you've got to figure out when you got an all frame, and then go back and get some more. But under no circumstances, should we pass a long-term debt ceiling increase to mortgage our kids' future without getting substantive changes like the ones I just outlined, and we're right in the middle of having those debates right now.
Starting point is 01:29:55 And internally, so what is the mood from the Republicans? This is all difficult, right? I mean, I don't, I'm going to be honest. I'm speaking of McCarthy has a tough job. I'm not trying to give them an excuse. It is hard. We had a good conversation this morning. We laid out an outline that I think is a good framework.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Okay. There are still some things we need to address. For me, for example, the Inflation Reduction Act with all of the green subsidies, which are basically giveaways, largely to big corporations, advancing leftist causes, you know, enriching them, undermining our national security, undermining our energy security, driving up the cost of your energy, you know, putting in place all these ridiculous requirements. They've got CAFE standards now that try to require all battery-driven fleet cars by 2030. How are you and I going to drive around Texas with that and afford it?
Starting point is 01:30:51 These things we have to stop. So some of this is going to take a willpower to drive a larger agenda on this beyond just the, sort of dollars and cents we normally get trapped in in a debt ceiling fight. Reducing spending is part of it. But we're going after a woke weaponized bureaucracy, undermining your freedom, undermining economic growth, undermining the well-being and national security of this country, all in the name of a climate fetish agenda driven by radical leftists that this president has fueling. We have to stand in the way of that.
Starting point is 01:31:22 I think we've got a lot of the makings there, but I'm going to be blunt. There are a handful of folks in our conference who get a little wobbly. You know it. It always happens. And we're having to hold the line. Same debate is occurring on border security, by the way. We're a handful of people want to undermine our ability to actually get transformative change. We're not going to do that. We want to be like Democrats were in Obamacare. Yes. They didn't care. They took it to the limit. We need to stand up and take it to the limit. This is, I mean, we are about to see a big change on the border to the negative here in the next.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Title 42. Yeah, Title 42. That is, that's really going to make things really bad on the border. Who is it that is trying to, well, you don't have to tell me, but, oh, I will find out. I'm not going to name names yet, but I promise you, we're either going to pass good bill or we're going to, or we're going to have a vote, and then you'll know, because they'll be a voting record. We're not going to do anything in between. We need to pass a good bill. We need to have the provisions that will stop.
Starting point is 01:32:29 the releases into our country in violation of law that are the magnet that are causing the cartels to make profit that are undermining our national security, endangering Americans, endangering migrants, killing migrants, driving fentanyl into our communities. We need to stop it. We can. We've got to have the willpower to do it. Over 200 Republicans agree that we need to do it. There's a small block, and we're working through it in good faith. I'm not going to go point in fingers. We're working through in good faith. I think we're going to move a good bill through the Judiciary Committee tomorrow that would do the job, but we're going to have to see how things unfold over the next week or two based on what we get through. Is there any kind of uniting things on agencies, like just slashing the Department of Education
Starting point is 01:33:13 or Justice because of all the lies that are coming out? Is there any rock that everybody will rally around when it comes to the Republicans? Well, I will say this. We right now have a pretty gooder level of agreement, probably even 218 to say that we should return to 2022 spending. Now, I want you to think about that. To do that and keep our spending for defense up where we need it to be to fight China. I mean, we need to gut all of their, you know, not, you know, DEI and all their woke stuff. Yeah. But we still need the spending. If you do that, then you return non-defense spending to 2019 pre-COVID levels. That's a pretty good whack at the bureaucracy. Now, I mean, it's not like 2019 was the paragon of virtue for, you know, federal...
Starting point is 01:33:59 Better than this. But it's better than this. If we do that, that's a pretty good whack at the bureaucracy across the board. Now, once you appropriate, well, you target that at the new FBI headquarters, restricting the justice, woke programs. Go after the garbage at the Department of Education that's, you know, poisoning the minds of our kids. Go after the garbage at the Department of Interior EPA that are undermining our ability to produce, you know, wealth and, and growth. the economy. We can do a lot of that, but you do that in the appropriations process. Right now, what we're doing is saying, we're going to set the caps. Let's go return to 2022-level spending,
Starting point is 01:34:33 and then let's identify those demons. But we're doing that right now and all of our messaging. You know them. You do it every day on the show. Why do you need a $3.5 billion new headquarters for an FBI that has been undermining our security and targeting us? Correct. I don't think we should do that. So what happens? It leaves the House. It has to go to the Senate, and then what's the Senate's going to do? They're going to say, it's going to, like, kill, you know, babies and, you know, orphans and women and old people. I mean, you know, it's what they always
Starting point is 01:35:03 do. And I just try to train Republicans. Don't care about that. Own it. No, they're going to do it. You know, relish it, bathe in it, and send it over to them unapologetically. If we try to balance the budget in 10 years, which would be an unbelievable
Starting point is 01:35:19 undertaking to accomplish, actually. It's really mathematically difficult. You're going to still have a massive amount of debt pile up, right? We're still going to have, we're going to raise the debt to like 50 trillion. You know, right? In other words, that's if we do the hard work of balancing in 10 years. So we're going to try to send over a responsible first year spending on the back of a debt ceiling increase. You guys want us to increase the debt ceiling a trillion or $2 trillion, then you're going to reset the baseline. We're going to reduce spending on the bureaucracy.
Starting point is 01:35:50 We're going to get the bureaucracy out of the way. We're going to recoup some of this COVID money. we're going to end to $500 billion of student loan that would just save $500 billion instantly in deficit for 2023. All of those are things that we can go do if we fight for. Senator over the Senate, make them own, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:08 favoring a rich kid who got student loan stuff or whatever over a plumber or the or favor the person who hasn't paid off the student loans versus the person who has. Make them be in favor of the IRS. We're against, you know, growing the IRS. Make them be in favor of the FBI bureau.
Starting point is 01:36:24 labeling parents as domestic terrorists. We're in favor of not rewarding them and getting them focused on their actual task of going after real criminals. We can win these messages if we go take it to them. It is a weaponized government undermining your liberty that needs to be thwarted if we're going to save America. And that's our goal here. If you don't, do they understand the GOP is about to lose any brand loyalty?
Starting point is 01:36:52 There's just, I mean, it's, that's barely there. But I mean, you know, it's over. If you guys don't do things at this time when it's this bad, why would you even ever give to the GOP? Well, let me just say this. I believe in results. I don't like telling you what's being said because it doesn't matter, right? What matters is what we do and what we get done. I will tell you in the private conversations from the speaker now, there is a firm recognition that our constituents expect us to
Starting point is 01:37:24 do at least two things, but you know, dozens more, at least two things. One, secure our border and try to force the administration's hand to do it and give the tools to the next presidents do it, but secure our border. And two, dratically cut spending and change the trajectory of the deficit pile up that's funding the bureaucrats that's undermining our freedom. Those two things must be dealt with or the Republican Party is going to be in the assheap of history. Yeah. There are many other things we need. need to do. I mean, you and I can go list them. But if we don't do those two things, we are dead man walking. And I will say the speaker has effectively said that. So have a number of other
Starting point is 01:38:05 folks that you may not expect in the conference accepting and understanding that. We're trying to work in good faith. We're a quarter into this. We pass a number of good bills. You know, we're debating a bill right now to try to make sure that they can't discriminate against, you know, our girls in sports by allowing these, you know, transgender folks. Yeah. undermine the, you know, Riley, you know, games and the others of the world. So, you know, we're doing some things that are important. But Title 42 is coming. Our border is wide open.
Starting point is 01:38:35 It's coming to summer. We've got to do something about it. And the spending is out of control. So we got to get busy. How can we help you? Just keep the heat up. Make sure everybody out there knows. Make sure everybody out there knows.
Starting point is 01:38:47 And look, and support the congressmen who are in tough districts. Let them know you'll have their back. Let them know you're not just going to yell. Adam. You're going to say, look, go fight for the things we said you do. Cut the spending. Secure the border and I'll come to support you. We'll get out and get you reelected. But most importantly is just keep the heat up. Keep the prayers coming. Keep the faith. Right. Second Timothy 4-7. We're supposed to fight to fight, keep the faith, you know, finish the race. Not in that order. But that's what we're supposed to do. Okay. Chip, thank you very much. I appreciate it. God bless you. I would highly
Starting point is 01:39:24 highly recommend. Now is the time to make a call to your congressman and just say, hey, just heard Chip Roy on. I want to back you up. I mean, I'm hoping that our congressman is the one that's going to be fighting with Chip to get these things done. We just want you to know you do that. We have your back. If we can flood them with positive stuff, because they're used to hearing the bad things. if we can flood them with positive stuff, maybe, maybe we can get this, get this through. Because it has to. It has to. If we don't cut the budget and cut the size of this out of control government, we don't survive as a nation. We don't.
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Starting point is 01:42:10 Does it? You know, I think, you know, he's probably upset because Harlan Crow, and I don't even know if this is true. Harlan might be a guy who's just like, GOP. Is Romney give him GOP? I don't think so. But Harlan Crow is one of the bigger donation sources for the conservative side here in Texas. And apparently it came out that he's been selling property.
Starting point is 01:42:41 This real estate developer has been selling property to one of our Supreme Court justices. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. And then he developed it. No. He's a property development. guy, but he developed it. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:42:57 And this is a massive scandal. Massive. And I heard they went on vacation together. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. Hey, did you see the, uh, the Democrats that did the Bud Light photo together? Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:43:14 That was so bad. Oh, so bad. It's so staged. Basically a photo of a bunch of them standing around having, it's a joy to just, they're just like you. They're just a joy to a bud light together. This is not a staged photo. All the labels are tilted right to the camera so you can see it in their heads.
Starting point is 01:43:30 But that's just how normal people hold bottles. We walk around pounding the bruskees back all day long here. I wish they were drunk while they were there. It would explain their behavior. They would do better. I think they would do better drunk. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people convince themselves that with driving.
Starting point is 01:43:49 And that's not true. But in Congress, might be true. It might be true. I drive slower. I pay more attention. No, no, no, you really don't. You really don't. And, you know, what did Bud Light really have as a brand?
Starting point is 01:44:02 Like, no one thinks Bun Light is great beer. Are the old, like, there's no, like, I mean, legitimately, just the thought of that made you laugh. Yeah. That someone would think Bud Light was great beer. I don't know. I liked Bud. I mean, it's been years. But I like, it's like, it's there.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Yeah, it's a good. Yeah, it's a good pizza, Doritos kind of beer. It's not even good. It's just, it's there. It's, it's all, it's always available. What do you think about this back and forth between seemingly the Trump side and the DeSantis side on this? Where DeSantis is saying, look, we got to get away from Bud Light. And I mean, Donald Trump Jr. coming out saying like, we need to stop boycotting Bud Light immediately.
Starting point is 01:44:42 But it's kind of interesting dynamic play. Yeah. I tend to go with the make this one hurt because it's hurting so badly. Don't give them, don't give them any air. However, I am kind of changing, knowing that some of these businesses, they have no choice anymore. And they want out. And we've got to find a way to give them an out. I'm not saying Bud Light is one of them.
Starting point is 01:45:11 Right. But we've got to find those businesses who are like, okay, I joined them on Nazi party in 1928, and it's changed a lot. It was bad back then. Yeah, well, it's worse now. Well, this is, I think, the problem with the Bud Light thing, if you're going to find one. And again, I don't like any boycotts, but like the reason why this particular one is interesting is that, like, a lot of this is distributors, local distributors. You brought this up before. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:40 They are angry about this. They were not in favor of this move at all and are upset because, you know, this is their business. They're being hammered by it as well. I mean, I was. really upset about it, and then they did a Clydesdale commercial. And I forgot all about it. I was like, oh my gosh, I love America and
Starting point is 01:46:01 horses. I was so insulting. So insulting. Quick, grab the Clydesdale, so the Clydesdales are like, I want nothing to do with this. The Glennback program. Centralization is the name of the game these days.
Starting point is 01:46:20 When you can accept that, you can act on it. There is going to be a digital currency, and it will replace the dollar, barring some miracle of, you know, God coming. Jesus might come. But bearing that in mind, you have to ask yourself some questions about what do you do to be prepared? Well, we've changed currencies before, but you generally lose about 40% of the value when you change currencies. When you're changing into a digital currency, I mean, it's a completely different, we're all kinds of questions you have to ask yourself. So if we have to have a new concern,
Starting point is 01:46:55 currency or the banks do fail because they can't save them this time. I don't know. What do you do? May I suggest gold or silver? Gold or silver may not be right for you. Not a lot of, you know, a lot of people are like, oh, that's crazy talk. Okay, fine. But it's right for my family. I really want to protect what I have by having things spread out just a tenth of what I have. 866 gold line. 866 gold line. have a special going on. You buy gold, you get some extra silver. Call them 866 Gold Line. And it's blazedtv.com slash Glenn. The promo code is Glenn for 10 bucks off. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I heard a story the other day. It's truly amazing. I think it was
Starting point is 01:47:57 first reported out of Arizona family. And these two writers, they do this incredible. interview with this mother who went through hell. This is a story that is showing you the future. Jennifer DeStefano is with us, and she is married and mother of four. And she had an incredible experience when her phone rang and she almost didn't pick it up. Jennifer, welcome to the program. Hi, Glenn. Thank you so much for having me.
Starting point is 01:48:43 This is so crazy. When I read this, I was like, oh, my gosh, this is the future. Tell me what happened. Yeah, it was horrifying. My daughter was training for a ski race, and so she was away with my husband and my younger son as he competes as well. and I was with my younger daughter who had rehearsal. So I got a phone call and I saw it come up as I was getting out of my car as an unknown number.
Starting point is 01:49:17 So I first was not going to answer it, but then I thought, well, that could be a medic or could be a doctor or hospital. And Bree is training. So, you know, in case he got hurt, I should answer it. So I had my phone on speakers. I was carrying some things inside to meet my younger daughter at dance. all of a sudden, my daughter, Brianna's voice says, mom, and she's sobbing and crying. And she is a very specific type of sob and cry. She's not a whaler.
Starting point is 01:49:45 She's not a screamer. She doesn't freak out. She doesn't freak out. It's very internal and controlled. So it's her voice saying, Mom, and she's crying and sobbing. And I said, what happened? What's going on? She goes, Mom, I messed up, and she's still sobbing and crying.
Starting point is 01:50:00 So I'm thinking she got hurt. I'm like, what happened? what's going on. All of a sudden, I heard a man's voice say, lay down, put your head back. So I thought she was being gurneyed or tobogged or something down the mountain. And then she goes, Mom, Mom, these bad men have me. Help me, help me, help me. And this guy comes on full voice in the background's face. And it's her pleading and sobbing and crying for help. And he goes, listen here. I have your daughter. You're not going to call the police. You're not going to talk to anybody. If you do, I'm going to pump her stomach so full of drugs. I'm going to have my way with her.
Starting point is 01:50:34 and I'm going to drop her in Mexico and you'll never see her daughter again. Jeez. I was talking about it. So at that point, I had her own speaker and I was walking into my other daughter's studio and I just started screaming for help. It was after hours. I knew my younger daughter was there with at least one teacher. I didn't know there was a couple of their moms and a couple other students there.
Starting point is 01:50:59 And so the mom came around me and heard all of the things that he was threatening to do and what was going on. So one jumped on the phone and called. 911 with her phone. I asked, I was trying to text my older son. I was trying to text my other kids, my daughter, you know, find Bree. Where's Bree? What's going on?
Starting point is 01:51:18 Where's your dad? Find your dad? And mostaking, the other mom went and grabbed my younger daughter's phone because my daughter was just paralyzed listening to all the things he was saying and tried contacting my husband to find out where he was and where Bree was. And they asked for a million dollars. at that point? They asked for a million dollars, which wasn't going to be possible.
Starting point is 01:51:45 He got really angry with me. And then he demanded $50,000. And so I said, okay, and I wanted to talk to my daughter again. He wouldn't let me talk to her again, though. And that's when we found out from 9-1, that there was this AI scam going on that's being used and that this is pretty common, which we were horrified to hear, but that gave us some hope. but still I didn't know for sure if that was what was happening.
Starting point is 01:52:10 So I asked him for wiring instructions or how he wanted me to get the $50,000 for him. And he refused a wire and he was demanding that I was going to be personally picked up. And I was going to be transported in a van with a bag over my head with the cash to my daughter. And if we didn't have all the money that both of us were going to be dead. And he wanted to make arrangements to come physically pick me up. So at that point, we had the police on their way. And then finally, we were able to get my husband on the phone with, and he was able to locate, make sure that my daughter was safe and in his possession. But her voice was so real that I couldn't, I didn't believe that he really had her and that she was really safe because her voice, I was like, I just spoke to her.
Starting point is 01:52:59 How can she be there with you and how can she be there with these guys? I don't understand what's going on, and my brain just could not process that as they kept trying to reassure me that she was safe until they finally handed me the phone, and I was able to talk to her, and she reaffirmed that she was safe and she was with dad and what's going on. And then that's when I got back on the phone with those guys and called them out on the scam, which they kept denying was a scam, and then I hung up on them. This is incredible. So if anybody missed it in the audience, this was an AI representation of her daughter. How did they get the sound to be able to reproduce her voice? Yeah, I've racked my brain on that. My daughter's not very big in social media.
Starting point is 01:53:53 And any accounts he has is private. I mean, her TikTok account is 32 followers. So she has done some interviews, some sports interviews. She's an athlete. She does have a public photographer account from when she did some modeling for some outerwear and scheme, but not, but the voice, the crying, the sobbing is where I can't even find anything that, where they, I'm not sure. And so that's what's really haunting for me if I can't figure out that piece of the puzzle.
Starting point is 01:54:24 I don't know where they got that. I'm going to see if some of our guys can look into that, because that is disturbing that they can do that. Did they catch the guys? They're not looking into it. So unfortunately, because there was no transaction of money and there was no physical kidnapping, there's nothing that can be done. So it's written up as a prank call. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:54:54 when I talked to the police, it was, you know, we can have an officer call you if you feel unsafe just to reassure you that you're safe, but there's nothing that can be done. Wow. Did they say how often this is happening? Not, but they did say that this isn't the first report they've had of it, but that there's nothing that they can do. When I put it out, I put it out on next door, just as a warning, because I didn't know if it was targeted to our area. I didn't know where the targeting was coming from. All of a sudden, all these other people started coming forward with their stories, including my own mother, called me. And she had never told me this before, but my brother's voice was used to call her to say that he had been injured in a car accident and that he needed money. And she's hard of hearing, so she asked them to keep repeating because it wasn't making sense to her.
Starting point is 01:55:47 And the way they spoke to her and they kept saying, Mom, don't you recognize me, that kind of tipped her off at something funny was going on. and so she told him to go find a real mother and hung up on them. Wow. And my brother's not anywhere. His voice isn't anywhere I can think of either. So he's my age. He's in his 40s. So it goes so far and so wide and so deep in so many different areas.
Starting point is 01:56:12 The good news is for my wife, if they kidnap me because of my voices everywhere, she'll be like, take him. Mexico? Fine. Can you take him further? That'd be great. Jennifer, thank you for sharing this. What an amazing story.
Starting point is 01:56:28 Thank you. Thank you for bringing awareness so we can hopefully stop this. Yeah. Thank you. Jennifer DeStefano. She's a mom in Arizona. That is the first time I've heard of an AI crime using artificial voice. I mean, that's going to work against a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:56:50 Oh, my gosh. Imagine how terrified you'd be, especially when they're saying you can't get off the phone, you know, you, you, there's no way to, you're making judgments about massive life-changing decisions in moments where you're totally out of sorts. You just said, you said to me two hours ago, I don't know if it was on the air or off the air, but you were like, I said, this is, this is as powerful as the nuclear bomb when we invented. It's going to change the world that much, except we all have a little red button. on our phone. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:57:26 And you said, do you really think it could change that? Look at the damage done today with just that. Imagine bots set out to do as many as they can of this in one day where you have 50,000 people in America get a call like that. On the same day. On the same day. You would even be able to automate the kidnappers' voices. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:52 You don't even need to have people on the other side of the phone. on, just, you know, stick, you know, the account information or whatever in there. And who knows how many people would wire $5,000, $10,000, $20,000 to try to make sure that this is not happening to the kid. You know, and we see these hacker type of situations where state governments, city governments, are paying actually the hackers. They're actually doing it. They're actually paying ransoms. When did I say to you, there's going to come a time. that you won't believe your eyes or your ears.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Oh, gosh, it was very early on in the show. You said that. And, you know, I mean, almost all of the things that you came up with have come true, or at least are almost true. So that was at least 20 years ago. Yeah. Okay. At least 20 years ago.
Starting point is 01:58:42 When she said this, I didn't realize it until the middle of it, I looked at Stu off air, and I said, you won't believe your eyes. As I thought about that while she was talking, I thought of something else. Today is the day that the Sony photograph of the year. Okay? Beautiful photograph. The guy won photograph of the year.
Starting point is 01:59:11 It's a world competition. Photograph of the year from Sony. And he just admitted today, I can't accept the award because that's AI. and I thought we should talk about how good AI is. Today is the day you cannot believe your eyes. Sony didn't pick it up. And you cannot believe your ears.
Starting point is 01:59:39 That's bizarre. Wow. And how could we, if Sony can't detect it, how are we going to be able to tell what is real and what is not? We don't have, and my typical conservative complaint reaction to this has been like, well, we used to have institutions that would be able to decipher these things and you could trust them and now we don't have those. But I mean, Sony, it's not like they weren't trying to figure this out. They just didn't know. They couldn't decipher it.
Starting point is 02:00:11 How on earth are we going to be able to tell what is true and what is not? I'm screw. I'm buying a shack. What's Idaho like this time of year? If we could get Idaho to be warmer. Yeah, it'd be a lot warmer. Yeah, that's the problem. I need to find the place like the Unabomber Shack land that has a beach.
Starting point is 02:00:30 That's what I need. Where's that? Is that a place? I need it. Well, I think you want a shack on the beach? You just wait California out for a little while longer, and they'll all be shacks on the beach. There you go. Yeah, all right.
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Starting point is 02:01:44 Feel the difference. Join the conversation. 888727. Back, the Glenn Beck Program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We have Kendra in Colorado on the phone. Hi, Kendra. How are you? Fine, thank you.
Starting point is 02:02:15 You were calling in about our last caller, the woman from Arizona, that thought her girl had been kidnapped. Yes, and when my children were little, we had a secret password, and I reinstated it for all my family members so that if the fakers call, if they don't know the secret password,
Starting point is 02:02:32 then we know it's not the family member that's, you know, being mimicked. So it's just, it's a good time to reiterate that, you know, to set that secret password. Like, what's your password? I'm not telling. I was totally going to try the same thing. Thanks a lot, Kendra. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:02:51 That is amazing. I mean, that's the place where we are. But, like, I think of the controversies we have now where people just see things different ways, right? Like, go back to the Dominion lawsuits going on right now. and, you know, think of the craziest stuff. There were some claims that seemed kind of legitimate with the whole, you know, election stuff. And then there was some that really went off the rails.
Starting point is 02:03:16 A good chunk of America believed some of the craziest claims about the election because they're shaken, right? Like, they can't see any foundation of truth anywhere. They don't know what to believe. They don't trust anybody. and like I say the craziest claim in the world. You know, you just come up with someone that was totally debunked. I don't remember which one. There was an elephant that was stomping Republicans.
Starting point is 02:03:40 Right. There you go. What happens? And in that situation, that one's a really absurd one. But like something that was absurd. But I could take and make that through AI. Well, that's what I mean. You'd look at that. You'd wouldn't believe it.
Starting point is 02:03:54 You'd be like, oh my gosh, look at it. There's the picture of it. Let's say there's a claim surface that, you know, I don't know, Hunter Biden himself was in there, like, you know, taken... Yeah. They found on the laptop, this happened, blah, blah, blah, and it was stolen ballots. And, you know, five, ten, 15% of people might believe it. What happens when we have video of it with his voice saying he did it?
Starting point is 02:04:16 When we have photos of him doing it because of AI. And yeah, sure, the New York Times is going to tell you they're fake. What is that going to mean? Nothing. No, what, even Sony... And even Sony can't tell the difference between... photos and reality now. How do we survive the next one of these?
Starting point is 02:04:36 People are going to go freaking insane. They're going to all believe that one thing happened and it didn't. No one's going to know what's true. May I just say this? Yes. Welcome to the party, Steve. I've been here for 25 years and you look at me like, it's not going to be that back. I hate your personal hell and I want out.
Starting point is 02:04:57 All right. We'll see you tomorrow. The Glenn Back program.

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