The Glenn Beck Program - 'America, Is It Worth Saving?' - 10/16/18

Episode Date: October 16, 2018

Hour 1 LOL?...The Worlds Worst lawyer just got worse...Bad lawyer-ing or political football? ...Elizabeth Big Chief Warren's...Pow Wow Chow...she reveals her DNA results and she's still not Native American?...Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Grandmother 6 to 10 generations ago? ...Cherokee Nation rejects Warren's test...making mockery out of real DNA testing? ...the Average Democrat is sick of the hard Left's hate ...Radio fan Will Stanford, calls Glenn to discuss his recent interview with Ben Shapiro, and was struck by how honest Glenn was about his struggle with alcohol...going 'rock bottom' to live another day for God   Hour 2 Election By Numbers with Stu? ...CRTV's Gavin McInnes talks Antifa Violence in Portland & NYC with Glenn...Gavin explains what happened to him recently in NYC...The reporting on this event has been terrible and it is shocking evidence that the Alt-Left, the DNC, and the mainstream media are in bed together...these are 'coordinated attacks'...the Portland Mayor is allowing chaos to happen only to blame Trump...'Journalist are Antifa'...the irony of the Left and 'White Supremacy'? ...Yes or No...Do you 'hate'?...Coming together behind certain 'principals' to move forward with each other?   Hour 3 The Donald Trump of Brazil?...journalist Clarissa Oliveira joins to discuss the rise of Jair Bolsonaro...who loves Trump, hates gays and admires autocrats...he could be Brazil's Next President in the upcoming Brazilian General Election?...fear of the unknown? ...Polls are  favoring to Bolsonaro who is 'very likely' to win...Keep your eye on Steve Bannon? ...Missing writer shows Saudi Arabia's dark side?...keep your eyes on Turkey, they're no fan of the Saudi's ...an Archduke Franz Ferdinand moment? ...Glenn reviews the movie 'A Star Is Born' with Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga? ...'Cooper sings as good as Gaga acts' ...CNN is chemically addicted to Donald Trump? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Blaze Radio Network On Demand. I was going to start with saying that Michael Avanotti is, you know, is my cousin Vinny. But my cousin Vinny is even better than Michael Avanotti. He is the worst lawyer in all of the history, the annals of ridiculously bad lawyers. So I'm trying to figure out what national day this should be because without Avanotti, it could go either way. Right now, it's a toss-up between the no-good, very bad lawyer day or the no-good, very bad

political operative day. And a federal judge was confused yesterday as well. Now, in case you don't remember, Avanotti is the guy who represents Stormy Daniels in the defamation lawsuit against the president. Okay. This is the reason why Ava-na-this, this reason why we know this guy. We know it because Stormy Daniels is his case. client and says, oh my gosh, the president is defaming me. And he didn't say, you're a stripper. I don't know we can defame strippers anymore than you've defamed yourself. Anyway, so he goes,

and he is the infinite superstar lawyer. He's full of awesomeness. And he decided to build this case off of, get this, a tweet, a tweet from the president. He's, he's a He's defaming me. Let me see the evidence. Right here. It's a tweet. And he took the case. Trump tweeted back in April regarding a man allegedly sent by Trump that he had threatened

her not to come forward with her story. Quote, a sketch years later about a non-existent man, a total con job, playing the fake news media for fools, but they know it. End quote. That was the tweet. Boom! The hounds of hell are unleashed in a defamation suit. So yesterday, we finally get to see the case and the lawyer, you know, has to stand up. Avanotti stands up and he tells the judge.

Now, the judge isn't sure if this is just really bad lawyering or some kind of game of political football. So the judge opted to rule it as both. the judge stated that the president's tweet was rhetorical hyperbole protected under the First Amendment. And part of the quote, politics and public discourse in the United States. So that's part of it. That's part of it. So you can't really get them on defamation. So forget for a moment that a federal judge has just highlighted that a defamation suit between a sitting U.S. president,

a porn star and a political activist masquerading as a lawyer is now considered normal and business as usual. Consider for just a second that this lawyer is actually considering running for president of the United States. A man that has shown no qualms at all with parading women, first Daniels and then Swetnik, in front of the entire world, embarrass them all for his own ugly political greed. the federal judge ordered the case closed and stormy daniels has to pay all of the president's legal fees now this might be the funniest thing that has uh has come out of all of it daniels has set up a crowd justice page kind of like a go fund me page back in april to pay for all over legal fees and as of today that page has raised 500 and

$86,000. So to everyone who just donated, you just paid President Trump's lawyers over half a million dollars. And as the kids, as the kids say nowadays, LOL. It's Tuesday, October 16th. This is the Glembeck program. We need to have a powwow about Elizabeth Warren, too. Powwow Chow? We need to.

Can we make that oatmeal soup that she made in Powwow Chow? I don't know. I think we should try that. I hope that somebody smoke em piece pipe on this whole thing. Because this is, this is just outrageous, don't you think? Yeah, she released this big, basically, I would say presidential audition video yesterday to show everyone that she was super Native American. Yes.

Super duper Native American. No, she was, she's Cherokee. She's Cherokee and part Delaware. Yes. which is something that does not seem to be backed up by the facts. Now, they first came out and said, well, the DNA test shows her to be 132nd Cherokee. And then they revised that to one, the media revised it, and they actually looked at the report and it says 132nd to 1,512. Then they realized oopsie-dupsy, we made a math error.

This is a serious correction. They didn't say oopsie-dupsy in the correction, but they should have. because that always makes everything better. Sure. But it was between 164th and 1,024th, I believe it was. Yeah, 1,024th. Now, that, of course, in and of itself. So if you cut the human body up to 1,024 pieces,

that one of them, one of those pieces, would have a little bit of Cherokee. Now, this theoretically, right, could at least give her a technical defense of her bull crap over the past 50 years, right? Where she's lying and saying she's, you know, she's a Native American and she's getting benefits for this and she's getting her stupid soup recipes and pow-wow chow, which is the goal of almost everybody in America. Pow-wow chow. You want to talk about appropriating a culture, pow-wow chow.

That's right. I'm going all full. I'm going to, I'm just. I'm going to, I'm just. But let's all complain about the names of football teams. but let's let Elizabeth Warren get away with powwow chow. I don't care any more. From here on out, our audience is called our tribe.

And we mean it in the Native American sense. It's a tribe. It's a tribe. Well, it does see, I mean, there are our studies that show that the average person of European descent has more Native American blood in them than Elizabeth Warren is even showing in her study. The average person? The average person. I mean, look, this is not a, it's a very, DNA is a complicated matter.

And it doesn't exactly show what they try to make it out to show. It doesn't show any DNA from an actual Native American. Yeah. What it shows. Because we don't have any DNA. DNA. Native American tribes have said, we're not participating in DNA studies. We don't want any DNA studies.

So they've never given any DNA. So we can't use actual Native Americans to test the DNA against. We have to use people from Peru, Mexico, and Columbia. Columbia. Yes. Well, wait. And the theory is that they, those, the same people want to migrating further south so you can use them as a stand-in, right? But it does not show that she has Native American blood. That is not even what they tested. And even that is, it's a weird thing. DNA doesn't really do that, right? Like if you, if you were born, like Ted Cruz, right?

Ted Cruz was born in Canada, as many people have noticed and like to point out over the years. It would not show that he has Canadian blood, right? Like, that's not the way this works. They It doesn't, oh, well, he was three miles over the border, therefore he was Canadian. That's not what DNA does. It shows a lineage and it shows, it can be interesting in some ways to show migration patterns and things. I wonder if he would, it would, if his blood would show that he's a thousand times more Hispanic than Robert Francis O'Rourke. It's true. It probably would show that.

But so it's interesting, you know, from that standpoint of her trying to put this issue behind her. falling flat on her face. First of all, it does not even show the Native American thing. Second of all, the other part which is interesting about this is they do have an idea who they believe the Native American relative was. It was her great, great, great, great grandmother, I think, several generations back. And when she registered, it was in the 1700s, she registered as white. Now, the theory, again, as put forth by the Warren campaign and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

and this is true that she would have had an incentive at this time to identify as white instead of a Native American because there's a lot of violence against Native Americans at the time. So if you could get out of saying, you know, it's like if you're in Nazi Germany and you said you were not a Jew, right? And you were able to get away with that. There would be some serious incentives to do that. Number one, obviously, why that's true, we don't know that it's true with this person, right? We don't know that it was true with her great, great, great, great, great, great, grandmother. Can I change? And secondarily.

Yeah. Glenn, what have we learned from progressives? We have learned that if you identify as something, you are that thing. This woman identified as white. And now we're denying her what she herself has identified as. She said she was white and now we're going to tell her she's not? That was what I was told we were not allowed to apply to anybody. No, we can't do that to her.

But Elizabeth Warren is identifying as Cherokee. So we have to accept that she. is. But we can't accept what her great, great, great grandmother identified as. I know. Well, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. I mean, really, seriously, this is so ridiculous. This story is just so ridiculous. I don't really care. I don't care either, but I don't care that she's lying and the people should. How do you know she's lying? Let me just play. Look, I want a cigar store Indian with Elizabeth Warren's face more than anybody else on the planet. So don't get me. Are they selling those yet? Those got to be for sale. No, but we've got to start making them. Uh, I want one.

more than life itself. Okay. So you know where I'm coming from. However, you know, we all have things. I have a story in my family, okay,

of one of my great, great, great grandfathers. Now, my grandfather actually took a horse, a full-sized horse. He was a, he was kind of a vet.

And he took him and he grabbed him underneath the chin. He didn't have anything to put this horse down, didn't have a gun or anything else. And he took him and he punched him in the head and knock the horse out. Okay. So my family, on my mother's side, they're big people. And they, they, they had muscles in them that I don't have. Okay.

Now, the legend in the family is that my great, great, great, great, great grandfather was this guy. I don't know why they always involve horses, but one of the neighbor's horses kept jumping over and getting into his garden or whatever. I don't even know what it is. And he picked it up and threw it over the fence. I don't know if that's true. I'm going to go out and say it's not. My family, you don't know.

So it could be true. It might not be true. Who cares? That's what I grew up hearing. Same thing with her. She might have grown up hearing, oh, yeah, this is what it was. But it was not true. How many advantages through your life did you get because you had people in your family who threw horses over, over walls or whatever?

I almost made it into WWE, but. How many times have you told that story? You've been on the air for how many years? Never. Never. I've never told us. You've. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I get it. Again, she is trying to play identity politics. And if you're going to play identity politics, you better be right on these things. And that's why I think it is. I'll give you that. It's valid. I'll give you that. It's not a huge story.

I mean, you know, we. Well, you know what? is a huge part of this story is the Cherokee Nation came out yesterday and said, quote, a DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person's ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship. And while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternally to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to claim any connection to a Cherokee nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely is inappropriate and wrong.

It makes a mockery out of DNA test and its legitimate uses while dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interest with her continued claims of tribal heritage. Okay, look. It's not a good look. Yeah. They're not offering the peace pipe here to her. She should probably zip it. And it does this not, Glenn, this whole saga of the last two days with this, as you point out, ridiculous story.

Does this not serve as a gigantic warning sign to Democrats to not nominate her? this is a no no no no no no no no no no this is this is a sign you should she's she should be a really I'm really she's great she's great she's great she'll get the the minority vote she'll get the Native American vote oh yeah and uh huge huge wow anybody who is one 1,026th of anything is going to be voting for her I'm afraid of her she should run she should be the nominee Were we convincing? Because I think... And Avanotti should be either her spokesperson or VP, or both, or both.

That's a scary ticket. Warren Avanati. I think they should do it. I think they should have a powwow about it. They should get together. All right. Filter by. Stu, I brought this in.

I changed my filters because I got my filter buy in. Oh, okay. They arrived? Yes. Okay. Remember I said, I don't even know where my filter is? Well, I found it. Okay.

I found it. that started as white. That's very dirty. Yeah, I went upstairs and I said, see the white in there? I mean, I have the, I should have brought the other filter in that I had that I replaced it with. But see how it started as white? It's dark charcoal gray now. It's bad.

I pulled that out and I was ashamed to say, you know, the truth. So I said, honey, why have you not told me that we needed to change the filter before now look at what we've been breathing you're just a bad person yeah that's a good way it's a good direction she just looked at it she just when I pulled that out she just looked at me and just shook her head like you're pathetic anyway now I'm not pathetic because of filter by filterby dot com they're going to send it to you they'll send I don't have to worry about it again because another one's going to come to my door and when the other one comes to my door I pull it out and I just push this one in it's really simple filter buy dot com made here in America you get 5% off if you

you know, if you sign up like I did that you just have them recurring, filterby.com. Make it really simple for yourself. It is filterby.com. You know, here's a problem with Elizabeth Warren for the Democrats. People are sick of this. Now, the, you know, the left is not sick of this. But I think the average Democrat is just as sick of this as the Republican and independent is. I mean, you know, it starts with shout your abortion. shout your abortion. Nobody wants to shout their abortion. Nobody thinks that's a good idea, except for the extremist and the revolutionaries and the Marxists and, you know, the postmodernists.

Everybody else is like, don't shout your abortion. That's not something to be proud of. So you have this, you have Antifa, you have, you know, hating cops, hating whites, hating men, hating capitalism, shutting down a free speech, hate God. People are not into, you know, oh, in third grade, there's a transition party because all genders are fluid. They're not into that. And they've had enough of it. And with Elizabeth Warren doing this whole, I'm Native American, nobody cares.

Nobody cares if she is. Nobody cares if she isn't. I mean, what difference does it make? and so by playing into it, she's just making it about identity politics more and more, and nobody cares. People are done with identity politics. I'm telling you, they're done with it.

And the first candidate, and well, we already know the first candidate was Donald Trump that said, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care what you say about me. I don't care what you accuse me of. I don't care. That's why he won.

because he that's why 20% of the people who voted for Donald Trump and you'll never hear this from mainstream media because they don't they don't the Democrats don't want this known 20% of the people who voted for Donald Trump voted for Barack Obama at least once many twice so they came over from the Democratic side they're sick of it they're sick of it now they may not like his extreme tweets and everything else, but they definitely don't like the idea that, yeah, we're going to get rid of capitalism because it's an old outdated idea. Yeah, you know, we think we should shut down free speech. Oh, I hate those cops. They're all murderers. Men, boy, man are trouble, especially white men. Did you know that I'm Indian? And that's really great. I shouldn't have said Indian. It really should be Native American because India. Shut up. Nobody cares. with all of the stuff that is going on in the world, shut up.

The issue here is you don't win that 2020 primary with 20 or 30 candidates in it without appealing to those activists who do believe all that craziness. And they're so they're stuck. They're hardcore incentivized to win those people over early, which is why they're all coming out.

And it's why the Spartacus moment happened. It's why Kamala Harris was so crazy during the Kavanaugh thing. It's why Avanotti's on TV. with a crazier and crazier stunt every day. But you know, Stu, how do you see, what used to happen is you'd have to, you'd have to go over to the extreme and then you'd moderate. You're not going to be able to moderate with those people.

How do you moderate? How do you go over to the side of Antiphon and say, hey, I don't think anything is wrong with Antiphon. Shout your abortion. And then when you get the nomination, come back close enough to the center to where people are going, oh, she didn't really mean the shout the abortion thing. Oh, she didn't really mean Antifa. Because Antifa and the shout-your-abortion people are not going to let you get away with it.

You've been eaten. You've been eaten by the hard left. And Democrats are waking up to it. They don't like what's happening on campuses. They don't like what's happening in the news. They may not like what's happening in the White House either. But they're not about shouting their abortion. This is the Glenn Beck program.

Will Stanford. Welcome to the program. Glad you're here. How are you, sir? Hi, Glenn. How you doing? Great. Good. So, Will? Thank you for having me on. You're welcome. Welcome to the program. What's on your mind? Well, you know, I had written you an email and wanted to say, thank you very much for being an inspiration.

You know, I followed politics since I was 11 years old, and I see you as one of the great minds and political commentary today. And recently I saw an interview between you and Ben Shapiro. Yeah. And you came out and spoke about your past with alcohol and how that you had to enter to AA and it helped you. And struggling with alcohol myself and even being drunk when I watched that video, you know, I stopped and I went, you know, this this man with all the stress that he goes through. he's managed to overcome this problem and become a better person. And really, I've seen a good change in your personality. You've become much more humble.

And so because of your inspiration, I decided to step out and go to AA myself. And it's been a huge help. Good for you. When did you go to AA? When did you just start? About three weeks ago. And you're still sober? Oh, absolutely.

And having a great time at that. Really? That wasn't my experience, but good for you. Good for you. So what was it that was said in that that turned you? You know, it was, you're talking about the, it was funny. You know, of course, it was really impacting to hear you be so honest. I mean, it's got to be tough being in the public eye to come out with something so personal.

and that really hit me like a ton of bricks. And then you were talking about the lady in your group that said, oh, honey, we're all drunks in this room. And, you know, I'd always seen AA meetings as probably something lame or people that wouldn't understand me or anything like that. And that was the one moment that really turned my attitude and made me go, well, I can walk in the door and I can do this, and I'll be in good company.

I found that to be true. Well, I tell you, well, every AA meeting is different. It just depends on where you are. And if you don't find one that you relate to, go find another one because they are wildly, wildly different. You've walked into a AA meeting in Midtown Manhattan. And, you know, I had a hard time relating to people because they literally were in the gutter and just coming out. And I never experienced that. And so it was different for me.

but you'll you'll find the people you relate to. I'm so happy for you. Did people in your life know that you were having a problem, Will? Yes. You know, my problems have been pretty obvious for a long time. I've struggled with alcohol for almost 20 years. And I first got drunk when I was 15. I've always struggled from self-confidence issues,

which is kind of the undercurrent that hasn't helped me. and when I was around 19, I was in a terrible relationship and had a bad breakup and got into alcohol to kind of cope with it and try and get over it and get over the emotions. And I made a terrible drunk decision and kind of in retaliation. I committed a crime. And my parents helped me through that time, got me counseling, got me things that I needed. But with the self-confidence issues, I had a lot of. self-hatred that came from committing that crime. And coming out of that, I was drunk every day for about seven years, you know, and I held my

life together. I would sober up to go to work. I would come home and just get tanked and start all over again. And then back in, it was 2008, I had a terrible accident. I was drunk again, messing around with fireworks from Wyoming and lost. 50% of my left hand. Oh, my gosh. And that didn't get you to sober up.

I sobered up for four years, and I got married, took on three stepkids, and walked into a different life, rebuilt my relationship with God. And I came to a point of stress, as comes in marriage, and fell off the wagon. And it was really because I had forgotten God, that I didn't keep my eyes on the future and what was good. And I've kind of bobbed in and out of alcohol problems.

And thank God for my wife, she's been so patient. I don't deserve this woman. She's wonderful. And so I sobered up for a while, probably a year and a half. And over this past summer, I walked away from the family company and got into a job that I thought I wanted. And those people at that job just ate me. alive, you know, and that really hit my self-confidence bad. And so I was drunk for six months.

You know, again, I was working, staying sober, just enough to work, and then I come home and get drunk. I was isolating myself from my family in my office, sleeping in my office, and it really hampered my relationship with my wife and my kids. And, you know, so by the time I saw this interview between you and Ben, I was at my own rock bottom. You know, I was a wreck. You know, I was a but I was keeping my life together. And I was very honest with my wife about my problems with my parents, you know, and recently I've, you know, stepped back into the family company. I want to take it over.

I know that that life is for me. And, you know, I'm, like I said, I've followed politics since I was a kid. And really one of my aims is I'd like to write a book. And despite my past, which I might get eaten alive for, I'd like to enter the political realm and kind of get on board with you and other people in political commentary and use my experiences to inspire people as well. Well, that is a great goal, and I'm so glad to hear that you said that, you know, that God is a part of your life because I would not have made it without my faith and my wife. So would you do me a favor? Listen to, I want you to listen to a couple of things.

There was an interview that I did a couple of weeks ago. Stu, it's his name. He's the pastor. He was wrongly accused. Went to jail. McGuire. Gene McGuire. Go to my podcast and listen to Gene McGuire.

He was wrongly accused, spent 34 years in jail, in prison. And his attitude, and his story of redemption and also sobriety is remarkable. And then also you might find it useful. I did an interview with Lewis Howes from the School of Greatness a few weeks ago. And that kind of goes into things a little more. I was operating on about three hours sleep when I did that interview. And I listened to it and I went, oh, dear God, what am I doing?

so there's it's very frank on that one uh you might want to uh you might want to listen to those do me in one more favor you have your wife call me if uh you fall off the wagon just to just for a little just you can we can we can we can chat on the air and then you know maybe that'll provide a little incentive for you not for you not to my wife my wife told me if i ever drink she'll leave me and i believe her uh and that that does cross my mind i believe even if you you don't start drinking, she may. Yeah, she's probably getting up to the point now where she's like, I'm going to start drinking or I'm going to leave you. But best of luck to you, Will, when you least expect it, expect it.

If you just remember that, that your mind will, knows you better than you think. And it will play all kinds of games with you. You will make it when you least expect it, expected. I've made a book out to you, and we're going to put it into, into the mail for you. Thank you so much. Great. Thank you, Glenn. Appreciate it. I, you know, I want to spend some time, maybe on tomorrow's show.

I want to spend some time about this. I'm getting so much mail now on people who are trying to go through recovery, but more importantly, I'm getting a lot of mail about depression and suicide. Yeah. And I don't know why this is happening. but suicide is a huge spike. And I don't think people understand it. And I want to share some of the things that I have seen in the mail and some of the things that I've heard.

I don't know if you saw Star is Born. I have not, no. It's Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga? Yeah. It's supposed to be an Oscar contender. Oh, I think they're both going to win Oscars. I mean, they should. It's fantastic.

But it is, I don't want to, I don't want to wreck anything. but it deals with alcoholism and suicide. And it's very powerful in its portrayal of that. And I don't know, suicide is in our, is in the zeitgeist right now. And so we'll talk about it possibly tomorrow. You mentioned you signed a book for him. And the book, of course, Addict to Outrage,

which we talked about 25 zillion. in times in the past couple months, you may know that it is available in bookstores. However, one thing we don't mention often is the subtitle. And, you know, it's about how treating the country, right, and admitting that we have a problem, not like us, but like the country as a whole, as a whole, has an issue with the way they're dealing with problems. And if you, if you look at that, because it's about, what's, I don't have it in front of me. It's, uh, yeah, it's, um, how thinking like a recovering addict can help you heal.

the country. Yeah. I mean, it's it's those principles that are helping him get through that alcoholism, right? A lot of those same principles would work on our country. No, they definitely would. And that's, you know, you get into some of the addiction issues in the book, but also how that applies to everything we have to deal with on a daily basis. You know, with a cure for Michael Avanotti, like this is, that's what the book is about, right? It's about being able to apply those principles to, you know, other situations. It starts at the, and it starts at the beginning.

It's not just admitting you have a problem, that we all have a problem, that the nation has a problem. And I think we can all admit that. But it really, it really, I think there's a section in here that in the book that really came before. As an alcoholic,

I had to decide, is life worth living? And in the book, there's a chapter of, are we good or are we bad? Is this republic? is the American experiment worth saving. And we're not talking about that.

We're seeing people tear it down, but nobody who's talking about is it worth saving? So how do we answer that question? And the book goes through that. And I think the road to recovery of our ills in this nation start there. You know, you can say Hillary Clinton, and can say, well, I can't compromise with people. You know, I can't even talk to those people because they want to destroy everything I believe in.

Well, what is it you believe in? And really believe in. Don't tell me the trite little things. Tell me about America. Tell me who you are. Now, she can't do that because I don't, I just don't think that she's, she's honest enough to tell me. She's, she's a politician. She's calculating.

And so are most politicians, right and left. It's up to us. We have to say that to our neighbors that we think we disagree with. Can we just, can we not talk about politics for a second? Is America worth saving? Is it a good place or a bad place? And the book shows you how to have that conversation and gives you some, some facts, both on good and bad.

Because both sides have to have to step to the plate. Both sides. Republicans generally see raw, raw, all of the good things, red, white and blue, and we're patriotic because we believe. And we don't want to hear the bad things because usually the bad things are being told to us by people who hate the country. We have to go out and learn the bad things about the country. And those people who just know the bad things about the country have to go and honestly look for the good things. Because I don't know about you, but I'm both good and bad.

and my struggle every day is to be more good than bad, to be a little better than I was yesterday. And if I let myself go, I'll be a bad guy. Well, we've let ourselves go. We're not trying to balance that anymore. We're saying we want to save this. Well, why? Why?

What's worth saving? What is it? What are we saving? And can you save, quote, the free market system? By violating. the free market system. The answer to that is no. So what is it we're saving?

And is it worth saving? And once we decide on that, we'll know the path forward. I want to thank our sponsor this F hour. It's X-Chair. Just bought new chairs for the studio. And it's the X-Chair. Stu, how do you like it?

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Boy, there is a real split, and I think common sense is starting to take hold. We talked to Gavin McGuinness, who the press is blaming for the trouble in Portland this weekend. We'll get his take on that. And Harvard and racial balancing. I think they're about to lose this. Glenn, back. Mercury. Glenn Beck is coming. coming live to talk about the right path forward and to make fun of the people standing in the way.

He might not be able to save the country, but at least we can all go down laughing. Glenn backed live, the addicted to outrage tour, on tour this fall. A little election by the numbers. So let's start with the Senate, Glenn. And right now, it is looking very good for Republicans to control the Senate and potentially even expand their majority. In fact, the chances are pretty good that they're going to be able to. to do that. Let me give you that we have a little graphic here you can kind of set up here and we'll let everyone on the radio know as well. There are 46 seats that are pretty much assured for Republicans

right now. If you kind of use the solid Republicans seats, you're up to about 47. And then there's three seats that are leaning Republican right now. There's Texas, Tennessee, and North Dakota. All three of those are leaning to the Republican side. All they have to do is win the leaning states and they're to 50, which gets them control of the Senate for at least a couple of years. there are six races in the toss-up category, and each one of those is going to expand that majority if they can do that. So, I mean, like Arizona seems to be going in the right direction right now. There's a couple like Florida and Nevada,

which are really close, easily, you know, total toss-up races. These are very close right now, but you could easily see a scenario where Republicans can get to 53 or 54 seats. It all comes down to this question, in my mind. Do you want to shout your abortion? Or not? Do you want to shout your abortion? I'd rather not. Do you believe that it is a healthy direction for the country to be, to have representatives and senators who stand right next to people who say, shout your abortion, be proud of your abortion.

No, no, no. What happened to be safe and rare? What happened to that? Oh, that's dead. The rare part of it is dead. Yeah. The rare part is dead. Yeah. It's now, shout your abortion. Be proud of it. Let's make a comedy of it. And I got news for you, by the way, all abortions are not safe. In fact, they are 100% effective at killing something. Yes. So it never was safe. It is currently legal, but they don't care about rare anymore. That one has gone out the window. And it's not just that.

It's extremist on all fronts. If you look at what's happening in Portland and you think this, I, you know, I want more of that. Well, you know who to vote for. That's it. Yeah, if you want, I mean, look at all the things we've seen over the past few years. I mean, from everything, occupying Wall Street, occupy Scott Walker State House, occupying the Keystone Pipeline, FBI buildings in Portland. You want that to continue.

There's a way to get it. There's a way to get it. In fact, turn the volume up. Spartacus and his friends will do it. All right. We wanted to bring Gavin McGuinness in. Gavin is a CR TV host, Get Off My Lawn, which is, I think, my favorite name of any show.

And he's in trouble now because the press has decided he's very, very, very, very violent. He's a Canadian writer, actor and comedian. He is the co-founder of Vice Media and Vice Magazine, and now on CRTV, and we welcome him to the program. Gavin, I really appreciate you coming on. Oh, I'm really happy to be here. It's one of the few places telling the right stories. Well, I will tell you this. I mean, your tribe believes in take them on, and that's totally fine. My tribe, reluctant. is more of the, you know, stand with peace and more of Martin Luther King. You're kind of Malcolm X.

I want us to be able to understand each other and live with one another because you're not the enemy. And what you guys are doing, I totally and completely understand you've had enough and you want to stand up and say, because nobody else is. Am I right? Is that what's happening? Yeah, well, look at those two versions. Wouldn't have been that different on Friday night. The guys who were looking for a fight, they got in some extra kicks, right? And so that's maybe five seconds of violence that wouldn't have happened if it went your way.

That's five seconds out of three days of terror. Antifa was threatening the venue. They were giving death threats to this old lady who answers the phone there. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Let's go back to what you were doing, what the venue is, what, and you have to hit on the poster because I think the poster is just entertaining. But go ahead. Well, Otoya Yamaguchi killed a socialist with a samurai sword in 1960. And it's a funny troll that a lot of right-wing guys do.

It's sort of like the Pinnichet thing, free rides, free helicopter rides for commies. It's a fairly satire, right? So it's that kind of setup. I announce it on Tuesday. I call myself Otoya Yamagavi, and I Photoshop myself into his mugshot. The second we announced that, and anyone who knows me too knows that it's that dire.

Antifa goes full blast. They start attacking the venue, attacking the old lady there. The calls are coming from all over the country, by the way. So this is a planned attack that Antifa has worked. I think DNC and the Antifa are working in their hand, because this was well organized and well funded. So then those attacks continue, night before the venue, totally trashed, window smashed, big ridiculous, pretentious manifesto nail to the door that says that we put the Republicans on notice. This is only the beginning.

We are not civil, which by the way, the Hillary quote. Then I get to the venue that night, sorry the next night, total and utter chaos, beautifully made signs, screaming, hurling bottles of urine, which one of them hit my car on the way out. organized rallies. There's this guy in a Mets Hat, you'll see if you really get deep into the foxhole, where he's calling Antifa and saying, you guys, go over there, over there. A citizen journalist gets beat up. They take his backpack. They're police to arrest him.

And then... Wait, wait. They arrest the citizen journalist? No, no, sorry. They arrest three of the ten who mobbed this guy. Okay. But I interviewed him today, and he was talking about coordinated attacks. It seems very military.

So this isn't anarchy. These anarchists are pulling off. Well, you know, I don't know if I'm sure you are. Antifa Austin is on their Facebook page has called for guerrilla-style tactics. They've called for a, what do they call it, a black shirt army or something like a red, a red shirt army? I can't remember. But they're calling for people that just want to go out. and do what Andefaugh normally does, but they're also calling now for an actual standing army.

And they were looking for people that know military tactics that could teach people. So that's happening. And, of course, Facebook doesn't have a problem with covering that. Well, that must be the Mets hat guy. The police are looking for that my citizen journalist told me about. So, yeah, those guys were charged with assault and robbery because they took its backpack. So now you and I, by the way, peaceful, Martin Luther, the game guy, Malcolm Mackermanagh, guy, are still having the same experience right up until now, and it's been days.

And then when it's time to leave, I come out there, I've got my plastic sword, I make a toy of Yamaguchi joke, and that's when they hurl the urine at me, I jump in the car. And then this group of proud boys are the last ones to go. They leave, and the video just came out yesterday on breaking 911 on Twitter. They were attacked by Antifa, fully clad with all their gear, and they throw a bottle at them, and a huge fight breaks out. Now, in your world, that fight would have been, you know, hey, cops, cops or something like that.

In the Malcolm X world, it's a little bit longer. But again, five to ten seconds difference. So we're splitting hairs here. The real issue is we are up against homicidal lunatics with no agenda, no plan. It's not like they know where we're going to get, you know, our gas and oil from after the revolution. These guys just want to burn America to the ground.

and the media is on their side. Yeah, I know. So it's so frustrating because we had the same kind of thing happening out in Portland, Oregon. And, you know, Portland has, I don't know who this mayor is. What, I mean, what the hell is he doing where they're already directing traffic antifa? The police are standing a block away, and then they do nothing. Well, my understanding with these super left-wing towns like Berkeley and Brooklyn towns, like Berkeley and Portland is, the mayor allows Antifa to wreak chaos, and then he can say, sorry, Trump supporters are

trouble. I mean, look at all the chaos that happens when someone who likes Trump shows up, when Republicans and conservatives are around. So let's just, you know, if you don't want Antifa around, stop being fought. That's their sort of motto. And it works. It's interesting, Gavin, because the initial video seemed to indicate that your guys were in the wrong, that they had, they started of this and they started the violence. The second video that was released, however, shows clearly someone from Antifa throwing something at

the proud boys, and that's when the fight breaks out. It was not something that you guys, at least the main one that has been covered, it was not something that you guys instigated. Isn't it strange how quick the media is to run with the evil Nazi narrative without doing any research whatsoever?

And isn't it strange, too, how the media takes a five-second clip and makes that the total story when we have days and days and days of subterfuge, days and days of domestic violence. It's almost, I'm at the point now when I think they don't just like Antifa. They are Antifa. I think a lot of these journalists ask them on them, convinced. I will tell you, I'm having a very hard time defending the press, which I have tried to be

more moderating on my on my words with the press but the the deeper we get into the violence on the streets and the calls for kick them when they're down and all of this stuff there's no excuse when when when the when they will not call a mob a mob an angry mob when everybody knows what that means. I don't know what, I don't know what to say. I mean, how, you and I can't go to restaurants. Tucker Carlson just today said he can't go to restaurants. No known conservative can go to a restaurant today. That's a new one. And it's because the media will throw around white supremacist, like it means absolutely nothing. A white supremacist is someone who sees white people as above all other races, just inherently better and wants all the other races out of America. That is a remarkably

esoteric view to have. It's a crazy view to have. And they just throw it on us, and it sticks like glue. And it affects our families, affects our lives, affects our personal lives. Okay, so Gavin, hold on for a second. I want to take you over across the break and just ask you what it is you believe. What is the America that you see and that you're fighting for? Back with Gavin McGuinness coming up in just a second.

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Due to this election, 866 Goldline. 1-866 Goldline. Inform yourself now, 1866 Goldline or goldline.com. We're with Gavin McGuinness, who is the host of Get Off My Lawn on CRTV. he is a writer-actor comedian, he is the founder, co-founder of Vice Media and Vice Magazine, and also the leader of the proud boys, which the media is saying, you know, they're violent and racist activists. So tell me who you really are, Gavin. Tell me what you're really fighting for.

What is your vision of America? Well, first of all, I'm not the leader of the proud boys. I just started it. They grew organically. I just happened to be there. And they grew organically as someone who wanted to stand up to the violence of Antifa, who were pepper spraying and Coulter and Lawrence Southern and me and all these other people who just wanted to go do a talk.

And they haven't stopped with this violence. And inevitably, when you're that violent, I mean, you've got a group slashing tires. You're going to have the tire boys at some point. You're right. So this group would not exist if Antifa wasn't trying to shout people down. and trying to take them out? I don't think so. I think they just be at a bar like the Elks Lodge.

They wouldn't be coming out to defend people. But more importantly, the way I feel personally is America is the greatest country and because it's not about identity politics, because it's not about your accent like it is in Britain or where you come from. It's about meritocracy. You come here, you bust your ass, you at least appreciate you. Christian values. You can be an atheist, but you have to understand that is the backbone of the country. And as long as you're part of us, you're in. We don't care if you're from Uganda,

Singapore, you bust your ass, you're into American values, you're in. And there's not a lot of places like that in the world. It's very rare to have that total lack of classism and that admiration for independence and liberty and hard work. And we got there through a horrible list of ups and downs and rights and wrongs and trying to correct things. We had slavery. Our treatment of the Indians was not what you'd expect for someone to whom the sermon on the Mount was divine command, as Buchanan says. We got here all together through all this mess and all this suffering.

And here we are in the freest country of the world, and we get people complaining saying America was never great. And that's what pisses me off. And it's ironic that we get called white supremacist because the reason we love America is it doesn't. them bother with all of that crap. Gavin, we had this for a long time. I think the media basically just said

Antifa wasn't. They didn't exist. They ignored them completely. And as the violence has escalated, their new tactic seems to be, well, yes, there's violence, but it's the proud boy's fault, or it's the right wing's fault. Have you noticed Or they're just exercising. My favorite

is, they're just exercising their First Amendment right of assembly and petition. Of course. I'm curious, Gavin, if you've detected a different recently in the approach from the media as is trying to make your group the real villain in this because I mean I they were you know there was a tweet string going on about the alleged violence by proud boys members and it was retweeted by people like Maggie Haberman like the big time reporters were going after this you've become I think a central target in this is that do

feel that definitely I think the the DNC put their uh Hate has no home here. That's the only thing they have to say to America. And it's an idiotic thing to say. That's like saying, we are sick of albino violence. Like, we just chose this really weird concept, these evil Nazis. And I said, we're going to rid America of the clan and Nazis. Now, there are not.

So they go, uh-oh, we've got to expand the net here. So now anyone who disagrees with them is part of this evil hate they have to stop. and I, unfortunately, have fallen into that definition. And it's amazing that Antifa and the media and the DNC are all in cahoots. Like Cuomo was saying, HAT is like a match, and you put it on dry grass, and then the wind just takes it. I think the match is Antifa. The wind is the media, and the DNC are starting fires. I don't I I have to tell you I have a hard time disagreeing with that seeing the way the

the left has just consumed the DNC I mean there there's you know when you're into an organization where you're starting to say you know shout your abortion and and and and that kind of really despicable kind of behavior you're bound and determined to start just going way off the rails. And they are. They're the extremist party now. It's all getting so great. I mean, they used to, and the same as in Britain, by the way.

The way that the DNC uses Antifa as their paramilitary wing here, the media uses the jihadists over there, and the attitude in both cases is, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And Antifa's language and the DNC language is getting more and more similar, just like that note. It said, we are not civil.

That's what Hillary said. When we go low, when they go low, we kick them. Or Maxine Wander is saying, no freedom, no peace or whatever. Go to their homes,

attack them. We got people on CNN saying that Sarah Huckabee's oners should be harassed for the rest of her life. That's a life sentence. They said the same thing about Susan Collins.

They're sending ricin to Republicans. We've got Rand Paul's wife sleeping with the gun. We've got senators getting the texts of beheading with her. Kavanaugh comes in. I mean, can you tell the difference in all those stories between

Antifa and the DNC? They sound pretty similar to me. Gavin McGuinness. Thanks, brother. Appreciate it. Cheers. God bless. Gavin McGinnis from CRTV, get off my lawn. These are the conversations we should be having. We should be looking inside and saying, what is it, I believe, what works, what doesn't. Mercury. You know, in the book Addicted to Outrage,

I, I, some people who haven't read the book, think that it is about, um, uh, surrendering or, or just making friends with,

uh, left. And it's not. That's not what this is about at all. It's about knowing what you believe and then taking a strong stand, but with a different approach because times have changed and, um, and they're getting more and more dangerous.

And I have talked to you about Martin Luther King for a long time. Somebody who read my book who I really respect, they read it and they said, you're about a year to a head. I'm not sure. Maybe, maybe, because I think more people will look at this as things become crazier and crazier. Maybe. But it's not about, it's not about. uniting with the left because I don't think you can unite with the left. The left has gone insane.

I think you can with a lot of Democrats. And I'm not talking about the ones in Washington. I'm not talking about political people. I'm talking about your neighbors. But the first thing we have to do is unite with each other. We have to unite people who are on the right part of the spectrum need to come together. We have to come together. And I'm really, I don't like the, hey, you're on the train or you're not on the train. What are you talking about? What train? Where's a train going?

Here's the train that we should all be on. The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. Because that's why people came here in the first place. People die in the middle of the night, in the desert, to get here because we have, A, a rule of law. B, we do not have a class system. You can break out if you. work hard, you're smart, and you're a little bit lucky, you can break out. You can change the world.

You can invent something in your garage and become Bill Gates. That's America. That's great. That's why people come here. And we're losing sight of that. And so the first thing we have to do is ask, are we worth saving? And I think the answer across the board, I'll bet you of 80%, maybe 90% of America says, yes, America is worth saving. So what does that mean?

Well, capitalism. Capitalism, but not necessarily the way we're doing it. Not where it's playing favorites. The Constitution. But we haven't been on the Constitution or the Bill of Rights in a long time. But we do need a rule of law. Let me start asking you just a few questions. And I don't care who you voted for.

I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. Just answer yes or no. Do you hate men? Do you hate white people? Do you hate black people? Do you hate Jews? Do you hate cops? Do you hate capitalism?

Do you want to shout down others that have a different opinion? Do you want to shout down God or hate God? do you believe street violence is the way we solve things in America? If you answered yes to any of those things, I don't think I have much in common with you. But I don't care who you voted for. I'll bet you the vast majority said no to all of those things. And it wasn't a hard, well, I don't know.

It was no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's who we are. Those are the people we need to unite with. But the easy ones to get are the ones on our own side. Gavin McGinnis and I may disagree on a lot of things. We disagree. I believe that it would be much more helpful to take the Martin Luther King pledge

and go and walk through Antifa singing hymns and let them club you in the head. Go ahead. Let them club you in the head. I know that's not fun. I don't want that. But that video of not breaking ranks and not punching back, that video will speak to 80% of Americans. That video will cross all barriers. And people will say, okay, look at these guys. They're not even defending themselves. Look at what they're doing to them. You put evil versus good side by side and people in America. at least still at this point will choose good. But it has to be really good.

It has to be a shining example of good. It has to be over the top good. That's why this is where we disagree. I understand, you know, Gavin and the proud boys, what they're doing, I don't think they're wrong for wanting to do it. And I don't think they're wrong for thinking that it's the right thing. because how is it wrong to stand up to bullies? How is that wrong?

How is that wrong? If the police won't stand up, if the media won't stand up, who's going to? So I completely understand that. And I can't blame you. Can't. I get it. I just think it's not effective because what happens is the media then just takes the piece of the video that they have where somebody's swinging back and then they say it's their fault.

So it's just not as effective. Do I want to get clubbed in the head? No. No. But if Gavin and I can't come together, even though we have big disagreements, our disagreements are not on the things that actually matter. We're not talking tactics. The things that actually matter are the principles. Bill of Rights, Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Judeo-Christian ethic.

Fundamentally, the left has, you talked about this before, shouting their abortion. They're proud of their abortion and they're heroes. The proud boys are proud of the West, right? And they're the villains. You know, I think you and Gavin would agree completely on what to be proud of. The fact that, you know, the Western way of life is something to share. It's a miracle. It is.

And there's nothing wrong with defending that at all. You know, tactics are, tactics aside, we have to, if we don't defend it, it's going to go away. You know, we're only one generation away from losing this, as we all know. And maybe a generation seems like it could be a week or two away at this rate. So we have to sit there and defend it. It's just, you know, what's the best way of doing it? And I think that there's a discussion there. because I think, you know, I think as Gavin would acknowledge, and we kind of talked about it in the interview,

they're going to be under the microscope now. They've got to be on their absolute best behavior. When the Tea Party was going on, right? When we went out and did these rallies, if there were, you said, don't bring signs. Because we know if there's one sign that's out of place. If one person makes one sign that has any hint of something bad, it will be the entire story. Don't even bring signs. Make sure you clean up when we walk away.

We want this area to be. cleaner than when we got here. And time after time after time, that happened. And they weren't able to show, to say, with any evidence that they were violent. So here's the thing. I think we were way ahead. Roger Ailes told me once. He said, you're so far ahead of the parade, you're about four blocks ahead. They can't even see you. And that's just who you're walking by yourself. When you're four blocks ahead of the parade, you're just, that was his point. You're on a stroll. That was his point. And he said, you're so far ahead. And I said, well, I don't, I don't, No, I'm just doing what I feel is right.

And he said, slow down. You're way too far ahead. That was the best advice he ever gave me. I never listened to it, but it was good advice. And I think, you know, when we were talking, people used to say all the time, why are you talking about Martin Luther King? Why are you talking about Martin Luther King? When we went to Birmingham, I said, I want everybody here. I want you to sign that Martin Luther King thing.

Well, there was nobody shouting us down. There was nobody doing that. And I said on stage, there will be. There will be. There's going to come a time soon where you're going to have to decide. There will be these times in our future, and you have to decide now. We're just ahead. Imagine doing a rally now.

We were afraid of the restoring honor rally because, if you remember right, the Black Panthers were going to come. And they were going to engage us. Well, the Black Panthers joined with Al Sharpton, and they tried. They just marched through. They didn't cause trouble. They just marched through. And we let them go. And there's video of people saying good things.

Is they saying bad things to us? We're saying good things to them. Now, at the time, it wasn't like Antifa in Portland. And Antifa wasn't there. If you do a rally and it is peaceful, and Antifa comes to attack, and we're the ones, and we don't, oh my gosh, what am I saying? Good God. And we don't turn away. We don't raise a fist.

That's a different story now. And one that people want to hear because people aren't believing the media anymore. and they're seeing these words come out of, there are Democrats, I'm telling you all over the country, that say, look, maybe I believe in abortion, but I don't believe in that. I don't believe in partial birth abortion. I don't believe in, hey, abortion should be,

you know, you should be proud of it. Go shout it. It's great. There's nothing wrong with it. No, normal people look at that on the Democratic side. I mean, the voter that lives next to you. They look and say, look, I don't want to be involved in those decisions. but, you know, I don't agree with that.

I don't agree with that. Out of compassion, medical, because I don't know people's situation, yes, but if that's your version of the pill and you're proud of it, that's a problem. That's who America is. And they're looking. They're looking for a movement. They're looking for someone they can stand with who just will call balls and strikes, who are not going to say, yep, that's right when Donald Trump tweets something stupid.

Just say, it's stupid. I don't agree with that. But when he does something right, yeah, he did that. Look at that, huh? Call balls and strikes. That's where America is. But the first thing we have to do is come together behind those principles. I don't care if you are on the Democratic side,

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Do you believe the scientific method is worth saving? Great. Then let's stand together and put our different. of approach aside because we got a lot of work to save this thing right now. By the way, Gavin has already been silenced on Twitter, and if voices don't start coming together, more are going to be silenced. What was it? Five or six hundred were silenced last week from Facebook, and I don't see anybody talking about it.

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dot com. Stu, what is it going to take? I mean, when you listen to Gavin McGinnis about a half hour ago on the program, and you listen when I said, so what is it you believe in? What is the America that you see? I don't see anything that should be shut down. I don't think, I don't see anything that is dangerous or, or any good that comes out from silencing, not only him, but, you know, even a crazy man like Alex Jones.

But Gavin is not saying things. that are dangerous. You know, we've always said more voices. Not less. Or probably should be not fewer. I get those confused all the time. I think it is. But you want, I mean, that's the whole thing here.

You're supposed to be able to talk about these things openly with people that you disagree with. And ideally, right, like if you care about something and you're passionate about it, you're working on persuading someone else, right? Yeah. I don't know that you can get into a situation where you're on the streets talking to Antifa that anyone's going to ever get convinced of anything. No. So, I mean, that's not where I direct my attention typically, but I understand that like you can't have, if I lived in Portland right now, I would be happy that organizations were showing up to defend me against Antifa. I can see that, you know, when you get to this, you get to this point, and you mentioned this earlier, when we talked about it in, what was the 2015 in Alabama. about how, you know, some point there's going to be these groups doing these things.

They're going to be ripping people out of their businesses. They're going to be doing terrible things. They're going to be destroying property. It's all here. That's all here. And, you know, someone has to stand up for it. And if the mayor's not going to direct the police to do it, what happens to the average citizen? So we're going to go to Brazil next because there is a presidential election going on in Brazil that appears to be pretty frightening.

and Steve Bannon's surprise surprise is in the heart of it. Glenn Beck, Mercury. Glenn Beck is coming live to talk about the right path forward and to make fun of the people standing in the way. He might not be able to save the country, but at least we can all go down laughing. Glenn Beck Live, the addicted to outrage tour, on tour this fall. It's Tuesday, October 16th. This is the Glenn Beck program. I want to talk to you a little bit about Brazil and the elections that are going on there.

Nobody's paying attention to this because, you know, it's, well, it's far more important than we talk about somebody's, you know, Cherokee heritage. But something is happening in Brazil that can really upset the Americas, both north and south. They are, they're in an election now. And the guy that might win has some scary earmarks. And the press, if you ever hear talk about him, says, oh, this is Brazil's Donald Trump. No, no, I don't think so. Although I believe Steve Bannon is involved in this, this Brazil, remember when, who was it, Lula, wasn't it President Lula?

He was really popular. Things were going well for Brazil. Everything seemed to be going great for Brazil. Yeah, unfortunately, there was this huge corruption scandal in the government, and I think it was in the oil industry. And it was massive. just massive and a lot of people went to jail. Because of that, some of the districts, the police had no fuel for their cars.

Hospitals didn't have basic medication. Street crime is off the charts. And when that happens, then you start to get radicals. Only 56% of Brazilians now say that democracy is the best form of government. We wanted to talk to somebody who could explain this to us and talk down to us because, honestly, I know very little about this. Clarissa Olivera is with us now. She is covering the Brazilian general election in Brazil for the New York Times, if you will, of Brazil. Clarissa, welcome to the program.

Thank you, Glenn, for having me. Sure. Do we have a reason to be concerned about, let me see, his name is Bolsonaro? Bolsonaro, yes. The fact is that Brazilian voters are now responding to approximately a decade of corruption scandals, and the Workers' Party, that is the party from former President Lula, was deeply impacted in the process. they are definitely not the sole responsible for these scandals,

but as almost every large party in Brazil was reached in some way by the car wash operation, this candle you mentioned that started in the oil business, this generated in Brazil a completely different situation regarding the political class. Right, 70% of Brazilians say they, don't have faith in any political party, right? Exactly. And so what we are seeing here is more of a movement against the Workers' Party and the old way to make politics in Brazil, not only Workers' Party, several traditional parties

were impacted in these elections. And this created an environment that allowed Jaird Bolsonaro to grow unexpectedly. Nobody saw this coming in this way. I believe all the other candidates were expecting him to stay small at least until the middle of the first race. And what happened? He was a victim of a knife attack. And this allowed him to stay far from the cameras. And he was kind of protected.

So he wasn't exposed. And the fact is, I believe, yes. every country that has relations with Brazil has a reason to be concerned because we still don't have any clarity on how will be a Bolsonaro's government. Okay, so he don't know exactly what's coming. He grew up in a time where there was military rule in Brazil, and that was overthrown and democracy came, and he has hinted in the past that, That's the way, you know, you should run a government.

He has, he has called for in, what, I think 99, a civil war and the liquidation of about 30,000 Brazilians. He is extraordinarily divisive, but he is not, he is not talking about a smaller government. He is talking about a government run by the military, or at least he has in the past, correct? And he's surrounded by military. So his closest advisors today are militaries. So an exception is Paulo Geges that is appointed as he's Minister of Economy. This guy is a liberal. So we have several differences regarding President Trump, as you mentioned.

He's a liberal and he comes, he had strong relationships with financial markets in Brazil. So this is the man that he points out as the base of the trust in his government. But it's not clear how he will manage his own team. He has had some trouble controlling his advisors that have given interviews, saying things that he had later to unauthorize them. So it is possible that he will. close down and keep a very close government regarding the press, for example. He has been using social media as his basic communication tool.

Now, this is the kind of the same thing that Hugo Chavez said. When he was running the first time, he said, oh, no, it's not going to be this way. I'm not going to do. And he immediately came in, and he started taking over the media and nationalizing everything. is there is that what we're looking at are we looking at a dictatorship possibility

with him that is a military and is it when you say he's liberal is that is that mean a socialist Marxist or what does that mean exactly in Brazil what we expect here most analysts don't see any mediate risk to democracy as he will take office and immediately

he will shut down Congress. That's not what has been discussed here at this time. What is expected is that maybe he could promote some change in constitution. It is not clear how he would do it. He has suggested that he could create a council that would create a new constitution for Brazil and that would be submitted to

vote after it so in a consult to people to electors in general so he had to take back this proposal but it's not clear if he will bring it back once he takes office because the fact is that he is not going to debate he

is giving just a few interviews usually he controls the process He has been speaking mainly through social media, so he has no confrontation from the press. And this creates an unknown territory. We don't know what's coming, but most analysts don't expect something so drastic right at the time, including because in the legislative elections, he got a strong performance from his allies in Congress. So we expect that he has some level of governability and he will be able to do some of the changes that he intends to.

But we still don't know exactly what would be those changes. Can you tell me Steve Bannon's involvement in this? Jair Bolsonaro's son, Eduardo Bolsonaro. He posted online a while back a photo of him next to Bannon and said that Bannon said he, would be glad to help in the campaign or something like this. This generated a strong repercussion that Bennett was involved and was responsible in a great part of Bolsonaro's strategy, but Bolsonaro himself came to public afterwards and said it was fake news that has nothing to do with it.

What we know for a fact is that Benin has given some indications that he considers Bolsonaro an expression of this right-wing movement that we see in other parts of the world, and he includes Donald Trump in this movement. So he understands that it's a clear wave in this direction, and Bolsonaro would be an expression of this. But we have no clear indication that he would be involved. There's a picture of him close to the presidential candidate son and some sort of a message that he took part in this somehow, but we don't know exactly at what point.

And, Clarissa, when is the election finalized? When do we know? Now at the end of the month, on Sunday 28th, we'll have the final results. It's very likely considering the current polls that Bolsonaro will be elected. We, yesterday we had a recent poll that gave Bolsonaro 59% of valid votes and Fernando Adadi that is the candidate from the Workers Party

only 41. So it's a big difference and Bolsonaro, poll after poll, has indicated that his electors are very sure

of their votes. So we would have to have a new fact, something that would be strong enough to change the scenario, but it's very, very likely that he wins the election.

Clarissa, we'll talk to you again after the election and find out some more. We'll be following you. Okay. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Okay. Thank you so much for having me. You bet.

What is disturbing about this is his history. He has a very, very strong history of dictating. Hatership, love, and passion. And he is not Donald Trump. He's not. He has time in the government, and he is on record. Now, he says he's a changed man. You know, but this is the way things happen.

You don't come in as a dictator. You know, even Hitler didn't come in as a dictator. He came in as a public servant. And things are bad in Brazil. The other thing that is we should pay attention to is Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon is flying all over the world and he is helping cobble together this populist movement. And populism is neither good nor bad. It's what are the aims?

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protect or sanction the Muslim Brotherhood. Well, you know, Saudi Arabia knows who the Muslim Brotherhood is. And so he had a falling out with the kingdom. And then he had to go get a, you know, divorce certificate. He divorced his wife in Saudi Arabia, had to go into the Saudi embassy in Istanbul, Turkey. And he disappeared. His fiancé was waiting for him outside. It appears as though Saudis came, landed a jet on the tarmac, came with a bunch of empty suitcases,

and a bone saw, chopped him up, and put him in. in the suitcases, took him out of the embassy, put him on a plane, and he's probably scattered over some desert in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia said, that's outlandish, that's crazy, yada yada, yada. The Turks went in. Apparently, there was a massive cleaning crew that went in right before the Turks could go and investigate. Some more things were leaked by the FBI, or sorry, by the CIA, etc.

And now our Secretary of State is over with the King of State. Saudi Arabia and it looks as though they are going to admit that yes, they did kill him. But it was an interrogation that just went horribly wrong and we're going to punish all the people that were involved. So now like a 24 episode. Oh, it's crazy. Yeah. This is, I mean, this is honestly rear window, Alfred Hitchcock.

This is exactly Alfred Hitchcock with somebody sitting outside going, wait, I, I think they chop her up. In that case, it's a woman. I think they chopped her up and then took her away in the middle of the night. And everybody's like, no, that's crazy. Well, it, yep, turns out it was. And it's the same thing here. Somebody sitting outside going, I think they chopped him up and took him out in suitcases. It's, it is the Hitchcock rear window. And this is obviously gone very awry for the Saudis because you don't do things like this and expect to admit to an interrogation gone wrong two weeks later. Like this is something you do and you deny. I mean, Russia does this all the time. They're constantly killing journalists and they're like, I don't even, who? I don't even know who that

was. What is polonium? I've never even heard of the thing. You know, like that's their pattern and they never admit it. If Saudi Arabia actually comes out and admits, yeah, we kind of killed that journalist. That's a big moment in, you know, geopolitics. That's not a tiny thing. Today or how, today or tomorrow, the way the president answers Saudi Arabia, when they admit to doing this, this is an ally. This is one of our bigger backers. This is probably our best friend next to Israel in the Middle East. They stand against a lot of the stuff that we stand against. They're a big supporter now of Israel.

We're in a proxy war in Yemen with them. Most people don't even know that, but we're fighting a war in Yemen. Yemen at their request and they're fighting with us. They keep Iran at bay. We're about to sell them a whole buttload of arms. They also dump money into our tech industry. Yeah, tech is taking a beating right now because of this. They also dump a lot of money into our banking system.

They also have that cool orb. That which is, I mean, that's, that. That orb was pretty sweet. Sure, okay. Did the orb predict us? Do we know that? Has anyone asked the orb? Hasn't anyone interviewed the orb about this incident?

Notice how the orb is shockingly... Because the shodgy stuffed inside of it. He's stuffed inside of it now. It could be how they hide people. So, um, what does the president do? What do we do? This way you don't get involved in these things. Because it's none of our business.

I mean, I don't want it to be any of our business. I don't want to have our whole economy and everything else hinge on what they just did. We don't like that. We don't want to endorse it. We don't want to be anywhere near it. It certainly feels. different, but help me quantify the difference here for a minute. These regimes are killing people all the time.

Yes. We know bad things are happening all the time. And, you know, Saudi Arabia is not innocent of these things. Yes. Is it just because it's a journalist? Is it just because it was on foreign territory and an embassy? Is it just because, you know, like the Washington Post really cares what happens to this guy? So therefore, it's become a big issue.

They can go after a Kushner and Trump because of the relationship. What do you think? I'd say yes. All of that. I'd say yes to all of that. I don't think if this guy was a preacher, nobody would have been paying attention. It better than did.

We got one back and no one seemed to care. This one, because it's one of theirs, the press cares more about it, but also foreign soil and, you know, the suitcase thing. It's a pretty amazing story. Mercury. This is the Glenback program. So, Stu, can you help me war game this a bit?

Talk about this Saudi Arabia thing, because right now Congress is saying, we want to slap major sanctions on them. Okay. You know, we're at a point to where I said, you know, back in the early 2000s, you're going to get to a point where if you haven't dealt with these problems, it's going to be too late and there isn't going to be a single good option. You are not going to like the options.

And so right now you have people saying, you know, I just go, we're not going to sell them the arms. We're going to slap sanctions on them. They admit this. This is horrible. And it is. It is. And that's probably what America should do. However, let me play devil's advocate. Oil is already up at 80. Some oil is headed up to $100 a barrel. We've pretty much shut down the Texas oil reserves. We're, I mean, we're slowing them down because of the price of oil. They couldn't make enough money. So they kind of slowed them down. We have to open those things back up again, which we can do. But we're not held hostage by oil, but a spike, a severe spike, $120, $140 a barrel. That's what collapsed us last time in 2008, was a spike to $130 or $140 a barrel. You also have Turkey.

This is coming from Turkey in Istanbul. Turkey is no fan of Saudi Arabia. the balance of power with Turkey is a little frightening. Economically, the Saudi royal funds are big in Silicon Valley, and that's why one of the reasons why our stock market is taking a hit, at least in the tech sector. Because they think if this goes the wrong way, then the funding is not going to come from Saudi Arabia anymore

and where are they going to go to get it. Now, obviously, there's other places for them to get money for the tech industry, but it was easy money from the Saudis. It was easy to get. They had plenty of it. They were looking to invest it. And when you lose a huge source of funding like that, it can hurt the industry. You also have Saudi Arabia being the massive check on Iran.

If they are weakened, if they are weakened in the area, not only with Iran, but also the Muslim Brotherhood, that's a significant force in our favor. in that. I mean, Saudi Arabia has remained the least bad option in the region for a while. Next to Israel. Israel and Jordan. There's others that I would say are better options, but with that amount of power and, you know, again, credibility in the Arab world, obviously Israel doesn't necessarily have that. But, you know, Saudi Arabia, you know, is a, is the big sort of backstop, right? So what do we do? They can stop the worst of the things they're going on. President, your president, it's President Stu. What do you do today?

I, uh, resign. No, uh, I, I think, um, you have to figure, first of all, we need, I would certainly, the first thing I would do is have more information than I currently do. Um, so I, I'll see her over there with the king and the king says, oh, she's, screw up, total screw up. This guy, they were out of control, you know, I wanted him brought over here. They got out of control. They started torturing him for answers. he died, then they just chopped him up, put him in a suitcase.

Yes, all of that stuff is true. And I can't believe. And these guys, they've all, they're already dead or whatever. You know, but yes, we did it. Jeez. I mean, I think you, at the very least, they're going to do something public, right? You're going to do potentially sanctions or something of that nature. You're probably also going to tell them they need to be incredibly open.

about punishing these people and sending that signal. And I think you probably wind up as a president with everything that you have to deal with. I mean, I think it's okay to take a stand and say, you know, this sort of stuff can't happen anymore. We still have relations with a lot of countries who have done much worse than having killing one journalist as sad as that is. I mean, this is, you know, this happens all over the world. This isn't, this guy is not just a journalist. He is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. That's really the problem here, is that they believe that he was, you know, helping the Muslim Brotherhood against Saudi Arabia and possibly even helping the Muslim Brotherhood here in the United States.

So he's not just a journalist. Let's clear that up. This isn't Saudi Arabia. He's a columnist, really, right? Yeah. And it's not that they were killing him because he was a journalist, but because of, of his ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. Right.

We think. I mean, it's, you know, it's literally impossible to be able to judge all the moving parts behind the scenes that we don't know about. Right. And, you know, that's why you, this is why you hire a president that you trust. And, you know, this is why you vote, right? Because it's these situations. We know this with Bush.

I mean, you met with him during the war. And he informed you of nothing, top secret or anything, but a lot of the different things that you had to consider when making these decisions. And, you know, it's easy to say, well, we should just never talk to Saudi Arabia again and throw them out. There's a lot of things behind the scenes that they're doing, for example, helping in the fight against terrorism. They've been while obviously, as we all know, 9-11, many of the people came from Saudi Arabia. There's been all sorts of questions on that. And we've talked about distancing ourselves for a long time.

And this is probably a great opportunity to do that a little bit. But, you know, there have been, they've also arrested and killed a lot of terrorists that have assisted us over the years. as well on those efforts. So it's a tough one. I think you have to send the signal. You have to make sure, I think probably sanctions or something, if this is actually proven, you have to do something publicly. But you look at, I mean, Russia's done terrible things like that,

and we haven't acted anymore. Not selling arms to Russia. No, no, it's true. Not selling arms to Russia. And, you know, the idea that, okay, well, arm sales help jobs is not a great argument. This is the one thing that we have to, we can't really consider the economy first when you're talking about arms sales. Yeah. But, you know, I think taking that step of probably sanctions, and maybe that's what it is, maybe it's arms.

Is it important? This is going to be an important, really, really important decision for us. What does President Glenn do? First, I go back in history and I look at the Archduke Ferdinand moment because this is the exact kind of moment that the world thinks is no big deal that could spiral out of control. so quickly. I send my secretary of state over, which is exactly what Trump did yesterday. I gather all of the evidence, and then I am as strong as I possibly can, understanding and weighing everything that is currently going on, trying not to weaken them, but not necessarily empower them as well, and try to get myself out of it in a long-term

strategy of getting away from the bad guys. And I think, you know, we're both going back and forth a little bit because we just don't know what's going on behind the scenes. There's not enough information to make this decision logically. But what I'll say is that while I am not a fan at all of this slogan, America first, and I think it has a terrible history, in this situation, that is your priority here, is to make sure that whatever happens is whatever is in America's best interests. You can't start a war. You can't start, you can't go crazy. and just to make a statement if the long-term effect of this is a negative for the United States. We've seen this with North Korea, right?

Like, I mean, North Korea, you can, I think, make a serious argument that, and I don't think Trump wants to go out there and be talking about how he loves Kim Jong-un publicly. I think he thinks that's the best way to avoid negative consequences. And if we're, if I got to say a bunch of words to make this better, good. We were saying this last night on the news and why it matters. Again, South Korea, the time to take care of that was under the Bush administration. We didn't. Or Clinton.

Or Clinton. We didn't do it. And now you're in a situation where you have no good options. Well, welcome to the world that we ourselves created or allowed it to be created for us. Same situation in Saudi Arabia. Let me go to Chad quickly in South Carolina. Hello, Chad. Good morning.

How are you, sir? How are you doing? Very good. How are you doing? Good. How are you? Doing great. Just letting you know how much I'm enjoying.

the book, Addicted Outrage so far. Thank you. I've only gotten to chapter three because my girlfriend just bought me the book yesterday. I just want to tell you, so relatable, as you open up and say, describe yourself as an optimistic catastrophist, I could not relate to that more. You know, you have trouble showing people maybe the silver lining whenever you're highlighting the negative aspects. But behind it are all of the ways that you can improve.

and I think it's a great book so far, and I'm looking forward to reading the rest of it. But I'd like to get it autographed. I just did. I just made one to you. Chad, we'll send it off in the mail. Chad, do me a favor. Call me when you're done.

I'd like to hear what you think at the end. Okay. All right, brother. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye. All right. Our sponsor, this half hour, we want to thank American financing for making this program possible.

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No, my wife did, though. She loved it. Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga both deserve an Oscar. And nobody deserves an Oscar because you have to go. You know what I mean? I don't wish that on anybody. You're punishing both Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga? Yeah, so they both should be punished with an Oscar. No, they're just phenomenal.

He is as good at singing as she is at acting. It's incredible. and just a great story. I saw it with my wife on Friday, and we went, and there was a whole row of 40-something-year-old women, all coming in with a glass of wine. And it wasn't pretty. It wasn't pretty.

You know, they just wanted him with his shirt off, and it just wasn't. It was done. And they drank, and they drank, and they drank, and they drank, and they drank. And when we walked out, I'm not going to give away anything, but it happens in his home. garage with the last couple of scenes. And, you know, it's, it's kind of the climax of the whole movie.

And, uh, and you, you know, it, it kind of is a thread that weaves throughout the entire movie. Okay. And, uh, they were standing in the lobby on the end going, I don't, I don't, I didn't, what, what happened in the garage? What happened? And they're like, and the other one was like, I don't know. I didn't understand it.

I'm like, oh, my God. How did you? They were so blasted. This is why you don't... They did see him with his shirt off, so that was good for them. Stay away from alcohol kids. Yeah, I know, I know. It could do some damage.

It's really good. You should see it. Yeah, and it did, it's doing very well, at least as far as the reviews go. People are talking about it as a big time Oscar movie. Have you seen, what is it? First in... First man. First man.

Have you seen that? I haven't. Though I'm fascinated by the sort of cultural controversy around surrounding that movie, which, I mean, we talked about it when the story came. out that they didn't put the scene of them planting the flag in the moon right um in the movie which is the iconic moment of this story i mean but the the argument was it's not is showing it's making it into a global thing and i said if they have the patches of the flag on their arms yep they have the USA on the rocket and the and the flag on the you know the the lunar lander what's the

problem right it's it's an odd choice i thought you know it's the iconic moment of that movie why wouldn't you put it in the movie? It's the iconic moment of that whole situation. I don't think so. I think the iconic moment is the one step for man. That's another one, yeah. I mean, there's a couple. Yeah, all right.

But now, now I've not seen the movie, but there's a couple articles that are out talking about the flag. And first of all, the flag's all over the movie. I mean, they can cite, you know, 15, 20 examples of the flag all over the place. And some of it is like just a patch or is that, you know, which you kind of understand would be really obvious if they took. out, but it's not even only just that. For example, apparently, they don't show them planting the flag into the moon.

However, in the scene, you can see the flag planted in the moon in the background. Like, it's already been planted there, and they show it. It's not like they're avoiding the flag. They just don't show that moment. Not good enough. What if those 40-year-old women are there? They're like, how did the flag get there? Was there already?

Is somebody else coming put it in? How did they can't even get there? A couple bottles of Chardonnay. might not understand this, but I mean, are we not just a victim here of addiction to outrage? Right? Like, this does not seem to be a thing. No, most of it's not. Most of it's not.

This, this, okay, today there's a tweet from Donald Trump. Oh, did he say something crazy? Of course he did. It's a tweet from Donald Trump. Today, we're also talking about Warren, Elizabeth Warren's Cherokee heritage. Why does this matter? Why does this matter? I mean, you know, again, we have the Saudi Arabia thing going on that is much more important.

I mean, not to mention that we're going to hit a trillion dollars in debt again for this year. Another trillion dollars in debt. There's no sign of that letting off, despite the fact that we're in a good economy. We're popping a trillion plus on the books when the unemployment rate is almost at full employment. We're almost at the peak of our employment situation. we are at a point where we are the stock market, despite a couple of bad days this week, has been raging for a very long time.

Housing prices are up. Everything, you know, everything is pointing in the right direction and we're still throwing a trillion dollars on the fire. Let me just put this up, this new banner from CNN. A disappearance of journalists put spotlight on Trump's business ties. Again, he is,

because candidate Trump talked about doing business. with the Saudi Arabians. He's talked about that for a very long time. Oh, my gosh. Are you kidding me? Now, the only reason why they care about the Saudi Arabian thing, forget about you, forget about gas prices, forget about the economy, forget about the tech sector, forget about all of that.

This is just another way for them to talk about Donald Trump. Don't play that game. Just don't play that game. I wish I cared about anything in the world as much as CNN cares about what Donald Trump tweets. I mean, they are absolutely. chemically obsessed with this man. They are.

It's incredible. They are chemically addicted. They cannot break the spell. And unfortunately, the one who loses in that is them. Glenn, back. Mercury.