The Glenn Beck Program - Are Kash Patel & Dan Bongino Telling the Truth About Epstein? | Guest: Mary Kutter | 5/19/25

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

Former President Biden has been diagnosed with aggressive prostate cancer, which has already metastasized into his bones. But is this a brand new diagnosis, or another Biden health cover-up? Glenn and Stu discuss the convenient timing of the announcement as the book on Biden’s mental health cover-up is being released. Glenn discusses FBI Director Kash Patel and FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino announcing their belief that Epstein committed suicide. Glenn gives the 7 phases of the rise and fall of an empire, and Glenn reveals the final two things that need to happen before America’s empire falls. Glenn and Stu discuss the Mexican naval ship crashing into the Brooklyn Bridge. Was this accidental, or another test in a series of potential cyber sabotage attacks against the United States? Glenn discusses some of his latest podcast with retired FBI special agent Scott Payne, who told his stories of undercover work involving goat sacrifices and drug standoffs. Country singer and songwriter Mary Kutter joins to discuss her latest song, “The Devil Wore A Lab Coat”, which discusses the issues of Big Pharma’s chokehold on Americans. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We have a lot to talk about today. A lot of it revolves around. Who do you trust? Am I being cynical here? Yeah, most likely you're being very cynical. But for good reason. We'll talk about that coming up in just a second. First, relief factor.

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Uh, did you hear the Joe Biden audio? Were you? I did, I did hear it. Yeah. It was a spectacular roller coaster of a lesson. Yeah, it's, it was stunning. Now, you might be thinking, wow, what a coincidence that this is coming out at the same time that Joe Biden is incompetent book is coming out.

and all the Democrats are running for cover. Well, you mean the audio? Are you talking about the cancer diagnosis? Both. Both. Yeah. This is coming out. And now the cancer diagnosis is coming out.

And the book is coming out. Coincidence that they're all happening at the same time? Well, the audio we know is not coincidence because it was, you know, first released by one of the authors of the book. So that, Alex Thompson. So that one, I think, was definitely. Yeah. I don't know if he just happened to get it a couple days before or if he just timing it very well for his book release. either one is fine with me. I'm glad we have it.

Now, the cancer diagnosis, do you believe this is the first time they're hearing about it? You know, someone legitimately in front of mine texted me. He's like, am I being too cynical here? Or it was like, is it a little suspicious that they're releasing this two days before the book comes out? And I said, you're not being cynical. You're not being cynical. You're not being cynical. No, enough probably. That doesn't mean that we celebrate Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis. It's terrible and it's awful. And I, you know, I'm sure going through that is awful.

And everyone has had a family member that's gone through something like this. And it's terrible every time you hear about it. But like, it's not crazy to question whether we're hearing this at a time designated by Dr. Jill or somebody near them. I mean, they may have heard. I mean, you know, there is the audio that has gone around from, was it last year, where he does say he has cancer on stage. Mm-hmm. that, you know, he said that. And at the time, we were told, oh, it's a gaff.

And, like, it's believable that he would just say he has cancer when he doesn't, because he was mentally incompetent. And they were lying about that, too. But very possible, I think, also, that he had a cancer diagnosis. Is it? Maybe he didn't think it was as aggressive at the time, didn't feel the need to disclose it to the American people. Who knows what they hit from us? So is it too cynical to say they wouldn't have had a problem knowing that he had cancer if he was going to run?

They would have just. run him, he would die and then, you know, in office and Kamala would take over and it wouldn't be anything bad for those who are running the administration. There's no level that is appropriate for cynicism.

You can't, it can't be high enough. They've lied to us so many times about this type of stuff. You have to question everything that they say. Now, and we should also point out this is the time we don't actually technically need to know about his prostate. Yeah.

like this is it now it is a private matter for them now. It was not a private matter for them when he was in office. And that is the problem here. He actually now is a time where they cannot tell us about it for three months if they don't want to. They can tell us about it. God forbid if he dies of cancer, they can tell us about it the day after. They don't have to tell us ever.

It is now a private matter for him. It was not a private matter when he was in office. Okay. Now I want to ask you, we're, They're all cynical for a reason, but I want you to hear a couple of stories, and I'm going to tell you exactly how I feel about them, and I would imagine it's probably where you feel, but there's a problem with the way I feel. Group of FBI agents involved in the January 6th investigations petitioned a federal court

to destroy a list containing approximately 5,000 names tied to the probes. Their plea comes in response to Ed Martin, the newly appointed weaponization czar, who is vowed to name and shame those he believes unjustly targeted over a thousand Americans linked to the January 6th events. Martin's stance is clear. Quote, there are some really bad actors, some people that did some really bad things to the American people. And if they can be charged, remember statute of limitations, if they can be charged, we'll charge them. but if they can't be charged, we'll name them. This approach has ignited a firestorm of debate around the balance between transparency

and the potential risks to those named. The agents argue releasing the list could endanger them and their families, especially consider that many January 6th defendants have been pardoned and are now free. Okay. Is it... Do you believe that's why the names have to be...

destroyed. The 5,000 names can't be released and destroyed. That it's only about fear. Okay. The next story. Cash Patel and Bongino come out and they said a couple of things. They said that Epstein's death was suicide. Bonjino came out and said, I've seen it. You know, know it when you see it, it was suicide. Immediately, I thought to myself, I don't think so. However, I know Dan Bongino. I've known him for years. I think he's a credible guy. I think he loves his country. I know Cash Patel, not as well as I know Dan Bonino, but I know Cash Patel. I think he's an honorable guy. I think he loves his country. I know that they both work for Donald Trump. I know.

Donald Trump. I know that he loves his country. So wait, if I don't believe them, if I'm saying, I don't believe that. Just like I say, I don't believe the prostate thing, you know, it is new to the family. I have no evidence of that. I have zero evidence of that. It's just what Stu said. I've been lied to over and over and over, especially from those people, about his health. So I just, I don't believe any of it. But that is, the key word is believe. Believe. Not no, believe.

I want to show you, there are seven stages of an empire. We are in the last stage, and there's only two things that have to happen in that last stage. When I give it to you here in a minute, I think it'll blow your mind. We have no trust at all in anything. If I don't believe Patel and Bongino, then do I believe Donald Trump? Do I believe that there's some conspiracy inside of MAGA? You see, where does this end? This is where critical thinking comes in.

Critical thinking is something that is no longer taught. You have to ask yourself these questions. Instead of saying, I don't believe it, ask questions. And here's the question I asked myself. To believe Epstein killed himself, what is it I would need to see that could be produced? one, full unredacted forensic and autopsy reports. I'd like to see it.

I'd like to hear other coroners talk about it. I'd like to see other people, not just handpicked by the media, but I'd like to see the evidence myself. I'd like to hear from coroners all over. Okay. I'd like to see the surveillance footage or sworn testimony from neutral parties confirming no foul play on that. I want to know the history of that camera.

I want to know when it went out exactly, and I know we do, but I want the whole thing, including the video leading up to it going out. I want a timeline that explains the broken cameras, the sleeping guards, and why the most high profile prisoner in America was removed from suicide watch just days before.

Why did that happen? You see, it is the same. string of coincidence and the constant lies from both sides of the administration, both Republican and Democrat. We don't believe the Department of Justice anymore. We don't believe our FBI.

We don't believe, apparently now, our own administration that doesn't lead anywhere good. That's, let me just say the one name, Robes Pierre. that's what leads to out-of-control revolution. So instead of saying, I don't believe it, which I don't. I don't believe it.

But what would be much more helpful is I want to see those things. I want to hear from Dan Bongino and say to him, Dan, specifically, what did you see? Because I know you. You didn't believe this either. So what is it and show it to me. What did you specifically see that changed your mind? Because I want to be there with you.

I really do. So show it to me. Now, with the FBI agents, the other story, where they're trying to erase everybody's name that was involved, I want concrete threats of violence against specific agents. I don't want just general fear. Don't tell me that there are 5,000, agents, and they may not be able to prosecute them because of statute of limitations.

And so they all just walk away and we're going to destroy their names. That's what's being asked. Destroy that list. No. Why? General fear. I'm sorry. General fear is no longer good enough.

Evidence that the list is incomplete or misused. Show that to me. And you can make a case. Show me a legal or constitutional rationale for why law enforcement that was involved in January 6 should remain anonymous. Show that to me, a legal or constitutional rationale. Without any of that, that looks like self-preservation instead of institutional transparency. I have to see things. sorry, but we should all be Thomas.

I need to put my finger in the hole. Because we must repair trust. All right. Let me take a break. And I want to come back. And I want to give you the seven phases of an empire, from rise to fall. There are seven phases. I remember the last time I went over this, we were in the sixth.

And it was kind of debatable if we were fully in the sixth. we're now in the seventh and it is crystal clear that we're in the seventh stage and there's only two things in that stage that have to happen before the empire falls and this is not me this is not grok this is not this is thousands of years of watching countries and empires fall and rise what does it take for one to rise? What does it take for one to fall? They all have the same pattern. And this is why this story about Epstein, about the DOJ, about January 6th, about Joe Biden, all of this matters and must be cleaned up.

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And I'll show you some of the examples. But the first stage of an empire is the age of pioneers. It's an outburst and expansion. Here's the legs of the age of pioneers. Driven by vision, courage, hard work, often religious or moral conviction. Is that what started us? Yeah. Is that how it happened in America?

Yeah. Vision, courage, hard work, religious or moral conviction. Example, the Rome's Republic era, America 1776 to 1820. and the values of that sacrifice, virtue, risk, and independence. Then comes the age of conquest, strength, and expansion. This is the era beginning in America around 1820. I think by 1830, the Republic is no longer recognizable to our founders. But here's the second stage of an empire.

and this is Rome's early empire and the Civil War, you know, pre-Civil War. It's military or economic conquests consolidate territory, consolidate influence. Civil institutions are built, education spreads, infrastructure grows. Third, the age of commerce, wealth complexity. economic strength becomes dominant. Luxury increases. Business elites rise, trades and speculation eclipse risk-taking pioneers. The examples, Venice, the Netherlands, British Empire and the 1800s, U.S. post-World War II,

and the values are profit, efficiency, and comfort. So this is us after World War II. up until maybe the 1980s. And that's the age of affluence. Leisure and decay begins. So this is the beginning of the downfall. Stage four.

Material wealth explodes. Government growth accelerates. You saw that? Did that happen to us? Citizens grow dependent on the system. Virtue gives way to entitlement. Education becomes secular and critical of founding ideals. This is what happened in the second century of Rome and also between 1980 and 2010.

The values, comfort, consumption, and cynicism. Now we go in to the two final stages of an empire. And the last time I gave this, I said, I think we're in the fifth stage because we had some of it. But we didn't have all of it. I believe all of these boxes are checked, which puts us in the final stage, the sixth or seventh stage of the fall of an empire. The rise and fall, last stage. There's only two things that have to happen because the Republic historically is so weak. Only two things have to happen.

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Glenbeck.com. Welcome to the Glennbeck program. We've been talking about, all of the lies that have been told. Who believes anymore that the traditional media is telling you the truth on anything? Who believes that, you know, the media didn't know about Joe Biden? Who believes that Joe Biden's cancer is a new subject? Now, that one's hard because that very,

well could be brand new. But it also, because we don't believe in so many other things, it might have been known when he was still in the White House. We don't know. But do you believe it? I'm not asking you what you know. I'm asking you what you believe. Then Cash Patel comes out, along with Dan Bongino, two very credible people on our side, on Donald Trump's handpick inside team. And they say the Epstein, suicide was a suicide. And my first response was, mm-mm. And then I immediately went, but it's coming from these guys. I believe these, I know these guys. And so then I started getting into critical thinking, okay, what would

it take for me to believe them? And they just have to show us what they saw, because that's a, that's a rule reversal. They've, they've switched. They said it wasn't a suicide. Now, all I need to know is what did you see and show it to me? Okay. Why is this important to use critical thinking? We just went through four of the seven stages of, it's called the seven stage cycle of civilization, civilizational collapse. Okay.

First, the age of pioneers. That's the Revolutionary War. Then the age of conquest. That's, you know, the expansion out west. The age of commerce. that is the really the 20th century, early 20th century. The age of affluence beginning around the Reagan years where the decay begins and it becomes about leisure and stuff.

Then fifth, and this is where the last time I read this, I thought we were here, and maybe a little in the six, maybe. The Age of Intellect, Elite Rule and Fragmentation. Experts and Technocrats dominate. Reason replaces faith. Society becomes obsessed with process, bureaucracy, identity, and division. People grow disconnected from elites. Populous backlash begins. This is France pre-1789.

Weimar, Germany in the 1920s, and the U.S. post-2000. The values, relativism, narcissism, hypereducation with moral void. So technocrats dominate, yes, reason replaces faith, yes, society becomes obsessed with process, yes, bureaucracy, yes, identity, absolutely, and division. The people grow disconnected from elites, yes, populist, best. Backlash begins, 2016. Yes. Then you get into the sixth stage. The age of decadence.

Moral decline and decline of courage. Tell me if you can't check every box on this one. National identity collapses. Hmm. Almost there. Almost. Immigration without assimilation. Yes.

Public debt surges. Yes. Breads and circuses replace responsibility. Yes. Political corruption is normalized. Yes. Gender confusion. Yes.

Family disintegration. Yes. Loss of fertility. Yes. The use of drugs. Yes. Heedanism dominates. Yes.

That's Rome the 3rd through the 5th century. And is this us today? The values. Heedinism, nihilism, and intent. I think yes, yes, and yes. Then you get into the last phase. Would you agree, Stu, that we've hit everything else in that? Yeah, we're here at some degree or another where we've hit all of those.

Okay. The age of decline and collapse, disintegration. There's only two things. Number one, internal distrust, factionalism and scapegoating. That's the first. All of that is where we are today with those stories. Internal distrust.

I don't trust anything, do you? Factionalism? Hello? Maga? And the, what, anti-maga? You're either a racist or an anti-racist. And scapegoose. I don't know.

Jake Tapper. How's your book going? I think we're there. The last thing to happen. Currency collapse, loss of external power or invasion. With Donald Trump in power, I don't think we're going to lose the external power or invasion, unless our currency collapses. And our currency collapse could happen.

Did you see they downgraded us yet again? Again, Stu, you remember 2008? I'm saying in 2006, 2007, and we will lose our AAA plus status. They will downgrade us. The quote was, never from every institution in America. Never. It will never happen. Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.

It will never, ever happen. Well, it happened in like 2009, then it happened again in like, 12 and 16, and they just did it again. So currency collapse is on the board. Values of this era. Despair, tribalism, and the choice between authoritarianism or anarchy. We're there. Okay, so I don't tell you this to bum you out.

I tell you this because there is something you can do. that's why I started today's show with those questions. We must, I believe this is a national emergency. And I believe Donald Trump should declare our trust in these institutions a national emergency. We must be transparent. This is why I said, I want cash and I want Dan Bongino to show the American people, what changed their minds? I would love a hearing on it and not some big drawn-out, you know, hearing in Congress with the bunch of, I just want to see. I want to see the files

because internal distrust is a choice. Because if you're saying today, I don't believe Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, which I'm stuck because I do believe them. I just, I think I don't have enough information to go with them on this. I believe in them, but I also believe that Epstein killed himself. Sorry, my throat was killing me. It's like the fact that you crunch the ice as you took the sip. I believe them.

I just believe also that Epstein killed himself, that he didn't hang himself with a paper sheet. Those two don't match. When something doesn't match, you have to go back and say, which one do you actually think is right. I can't because I don't have enough information. But I must do that because trust and distrust at this point is a choice.

Now let me show you where distrust leads. If you don't trust Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, then you can't trust the FBI and the FBI and the FBI. the DOJ and anything that they're doing there. That's pretty bad because we just have the biggest reformer in of all time. A guy who said he would reform those two institutions, that he would be transparent. And he hired these two guys and we all cheered for those two guys. So if you don't trust them, if you just immediately go, uh, something's wrong.

I don't trust them. Without saying, I don't trust that that is true, but I want to see what changed their mind. Then your next step is, well, does Donald Trump know? And if he doesn't do something about them on something this egregious, they're clearly covering something up, then I got a problem with Donald Trump. Where does this end? This ends in guillotines in France. This is what happens. you betrayed the revolution.

No, I didn't. That's just not true. So the good news is, this is up to you. These things can be reversed. They just haven't been, but they can be reversed. For instance, why would our currency collapse? Because we're being downgraded. Why are we being downgraded?

Because we're spending too much. Why are we spending too much? Because the people in Washington won't listen to the American people. They have no courage. Back to stage six, decline of courage. That means we need more people who have courage that will say, this is the end of the republic if we don't do certain things. So where will you stand today?

Will you dedicate yourself to not changing what you believe, per se? but at least demanding critical thinking answers for good critical thinking questions. I don't believe you. Thus, I am asking you to produce and have a conversation with the American people to show us what changed your mind. Show us the facts. We must restore trust. Back in just a second. When you think of a cell phone company, you probably don't imagine one that is actively shaping the future of our country.

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of critical thinking, asking yourself the question, what possible motivation? Oh, yeah. Would Dan Bongino, of all people in the world and Cash Patel have to lie to the Maga base about this being a suicide? Play the, play the Dan Bonino and Cash Patel response. You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. People don't believe it. Well, I mean, listen, they have. a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor,

who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was. He killed himself. Again, you want me to get, I've seen the whole file. He killed himself. What possible motivation? Other than the fact that maybe he just killed himself. Yeah.

The motivation, some would say. say is they've been co-opted. Dan Von Gino and Cash Patel have been co-opted by the deep state. That's the choice everybody has to make. And I'm not saying you have enough information to make that. I've made that, but I can't square what he just said because I don't think anybody kills themselves with paper sheets. But I mean, probably that's that, I mean, because we obviously have seen some, but like,

probably that wasn't the way it happened. Right, right, right. So I want to know what did he? see? What did he see that said, no, Dan, you're wrong. I know you want to believe that he didn't hang himself, that it was something else, but he did. I want to know. Dan is a good guy. He has not been co-opted. Cash Patel is a good guy. He hadn't been co-opted. So what is it that changed their mind? And I think there is something you have to allow for for new information to change your mind. And I there are some people who don't allow that anymore. That's the problem. We've seen that with

many conspiracy theories in the past. No matter what information comes out. Then you have made your own religion just like climate change people. Just like the Trump Drangement Syndrome people. No new information will change your mind. You're in a religion if you believe that. But I want the information. This is Glenn Beck. If you're tired of paying more for lower quality meat at the grocery store, it's time to make a change. Good Ranchers delivers 100% American meat straight to your door. No guesswork, no global supply chains, just high quality beef, chicken, pork, all from local farms right here in the U.S. Every box is packaged for freshness, flash frozen, individually sealed, so it's ready when you are.

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you believe and how do we repair the trust? Is it even repairable? I think we made the point yesterday, I mean, last hour, that it really needs to be repairable. We have to repair it. It's one of the last stages of civilizations. If you look at the rise and fall of empires throughout history, there are seven stages and this is in the seventh stage. We just talked about Jeffrey Epstein and Cash Patel and Dan Bongino. I don't believe that he killed himself, but Dan Bongino just did. He said, I looked at it, and that's the conclusion.

If there's new information, I'll tell you. But the information that we now have shows he killed himself. Do you believe him or not? And what are the consequences if you don't? See, this is radical transparency is needed to save our nation. Radical transparency. and I'll get into that here in just a second. First, let me tell you about Simply Safe.

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It really is. It's great to be alive. Can't wait to see how all this works out. Yeah, it's a fascinating film that I'm not engaged in and it doesn't really affect me. At least that's not convincing myself of it. It's a lot easier. You're just sitting in a theater.

Yeah, that's it. What's going on? All this stuff keeps happening. We're just watching this for entertainment purposes. We're like, wow, let's learn from this society. Imagine what's going to be on the next episode? Wow. That's how I feel.

All right. Well, what was on last episode was another giant ship hitting another giant bridge. What is happening? Now, I've never seen this in my lifetime. Okay. I mean, I'm 62. I've seen it happen now. Now, two times, and it's been recently, I don't know about you, but I think, I think there's a problem.

Now, what's happening? Two ships, two major American bridges, less than what, year and a half apart from each other, both ships lose power. Now, we've seen this happen before. We've seen other ships lose power. I'll get into that here in a second. Recently, Baltimore, March 2024, Francis Scott Key Bridge collapses into the river because a Singaporean cargo ship, the Dolly,

loses propulsion, slams into the support column, six workers are killed, the whole country watches in shock, and you're like, wow, that doesn't happen. Well, then again, on Saturday, it happens again. A Mexican Navy tall ship loses power while departing New York Harbor. It drifts straight into the Brooklyn Bridge, two sailors die, dozens were injured, the mass shatter like matchsticks, the Brooklyn Bridge, an icon of American Resolve shakes, but apparently everything is okay.

Now, first of all, our condolences to all of those who were on the ship that lost their lives or were injured, we feel for you. That was an awful. They were all standing there on the masts. You imagine standing there going, we're not stopping, we're not stopping. I got to get down. And then when the ship, when the masks go down,

you saw them, they were all entangled in the ropes, and they were just hanging there. Some of them upside down. It's nuts. Okay. So the reason for that one, we're told, again, power. Okay. Okay.

Maybe once. maybe twice, both on foreign vessels, both involved with high-profile American infrastructure. Now, we've been talking the last hour about trust. And I'm sorry, I just don't trust that this is, if this is what it is, then we should stop having computer systems run everything on these ships. That's the only reason what you could say, well, no, we just put in these new computers that are running these ships and nobody's ever seen computers run things like ships before

and we don't know if they're safe and stable yet then don't put them in the ship if there's a problem with that why don't we know there's i can't use my phone on an airplane why why because the fAA couldn't come up with a reason we had a plane crash. I think it was in Long Island years ago. And they're like, bah, cell phones. And we've been being told to turn off our cell phones and everything else.

Because it interferes with the navigation systems on the plane. It does what? Excuse me? What does it do? Nobody believes that. Nobody believes that. Okay? That's not true.

It's just not true. How come, if you've ever flown in a private plane, they don't tell you that. Is there something special in private planes that makes their super, super navigational systems so much better than it is on a commercial airliner? No, it's a lie. It's a lie. So what's wrong with these ships? Do you remember the ship that also lost power and then made like a loop-de-loop and then slammed into another ship? It was, I think, off the coast of maybe Singapore. You remember that?

Happened about three, four years ago. It was like this insane thing where we lost power and navigation. And it just, I mean, it was two like large, like freighters. I think it was a freighter and a naval ship. And it just pounded into the naval ship. We lost power and lost navigation. Okay, okay, all right. There is something happening in the pit of my history,

section of my stomach that says, this isn't, this isn't right. Warning bell. What history would tell me is these are shark bumps. Okay. You know what a shark bump is? I worked with Anderson Cooper one time. And we were sitting, getting ready to, he was doing his show on CNN. I was doing my show on CNN headline news, which is strangely has better. numbers now than any show on CNN currently. But anyway, so I'm getting ready to do my show on CNN headline news. And Anderson walks in. And he was always very kind to me and we had a nice relationship. Yeah, he always was. Yeah. And he said, what'd you do this weekend? And I said, I took my kids, I don't know, to the park or whatever. I said, what'd you do? And he said, I went shark diving off the coast of Australia. I was like,

he had a lot of those weird stories. Yeah. And I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, I haven't done that. I said, why would you do that? And he said, well, we were making, we were going to make a dock on it. And then something happened. And he said, so I just, you know, I wanted to be in the cage and have the sharks, you know, to see the sharks.

And I'm like, okay, I could live my whole life without ever doing that. And he said, then when they pulled the cage up, I'm, you know, coming out. And he said, it was pretty wild when you're in the cage. And he said, then I see the captain of the ship, as the cage is coming up, he's getting ready to dive. And I said, what are you doing? And he said, I'm going to go dive and just be with the sharks for a minute. Okay. What the hell's wrong with these people, all right?

Maybe it's all the blood is constantly, it can't get to their feet or anything. It's just all coagulated in their head because they're upside down. what is wrong with you people. So he says, well, I'd like to go with you. And he said, oh, this is only for experienced divers. And Anderson said, I'm an experienced diver. I got all my license, everything else. And he's like, oh, okay.

So come on, we can come with me. Now, Anderson didn't have any of those things. He's not an experienced diver. This was his first time. He puts on everything. And he goes off the back of the ship with the, the, the captain, just before they do that, the captain says, by the way, they're going to come up to you and they're going to bump into you. Do not move. Because if you do, they'll eat you. And he said,

I'm sorry, what? He said, don't move. They bump into things to see the reaction. If you're just a floating, you know, bag of something they don't want to eat, it won't. It won't. move. But if you move, they'll eat you. He said, okay, all right. Now, this is, again, the time that I take off, you know, the eye mask, and I'm like, okay, have a good time. I'm staying here. He goes down, and the sharks do just that. And he's, I'm sitting here, you know, listening to him, and he's like, oh, you wouldn't believe what it's like to have one of these great whites just come up and just bump you in the chest. And I'm like, nope, nope, I can't imagine that. I, uh, I'm I may not have moved, but there would have been poop in the water everywhere.

So how did I get here? So I think what's happening is these are shark bumps. These are, I don't know, a country, multiple countries. I don't know. Can we collapse the navigational system on ships? Can we cover it up enough? and can we take control of ships and just let people in the up upper end know, oh boy, look what they're doing.

I think this is, that's what this looks like. This looks like the opening act to a war, a different kind of war, but a war, one that we're not even allowed to call a war yet. And what chills me the most is the silence on this. the mainstream media, they didn't blink on this. Government assures us nothing to see here. Same experts that tell you, you know, that men can have babies are telling you it's just a coincidence. I'm sorry, I don't.

Can you show me exactly how this is happening so many times? Because maybe it is. But if that's true, maybe we should stop with that kind of navigation system on these ships. maybe it's not ready for prime time. And why does it always seem to lose power and navigation right around an American bridge? Right around a naval ship, a U.S. naval ship, or two U.S. bridges. Why is that happening? Now, there's a shipping giant, I guess it's Maersk, M-A-E-R-S-K, right?

Maris shipping giant had its entire global system shut down by ransomware in 2017. Did you know that? The U.S. Navy has have had ships colliding multiple times since 2016. Again, what was blamed? Steering loss or loss of power. Ask the port of Los Angeles, which just last year was under daily cyber attack from foreign adversaries. You don't need a missile to hit us anymore. You need somebody with a keyboard and some bad code. And let me ask you this. What kind of war doesn't even need intent, just capability?

Because when infrastructure is digitized, when our bridges, our tugboats, our radar systems, our engine controls, all depend on centralized code. It doesn't take a villain in a cape. It takes a firmware update or a rogue packet of data from a USB stick. Remember, before 9-11, the intelligence community had over 40 separate warnings that something big was coming. They just didn't connect the dots. Well, we have several dots here, and they all seem to lead to the same thing. Power or steering loss.

Somebody should solve that if it's a software. or a hardware problem. Solve that. How come I'm not hearing about that? You can't just keep saying, yep, steering loss, and then we just accept it. This is national security. Is anybody serious about national security?

Anybody? Now, I'm not saying this was an attack, but this is exactly what it would look like if it was. This looks like a shark attack or a shark bump, except this time, the shark is seeing how you're going to move. By us not moving, it makes that foreign shark or whoever might be doing it more apt to eat us. If we move and harden things, it makes them less apt to eat us. So in a shark bump with a real shark, you don't move. in this particular scenario where it could be a foreign adversary giving us a shark bump,

you must move. And I haven't seen anything yet. We need cyber forensics on all of those boats, independent experts, not just the insurers or foreign governments, independent experts. We need an immediate national audit of our port bridge and merit. infrastructure vulnerabilities to electromagnetic or cyber interference. And we need people to at least start investigating the possibility of hybrid sabotage.

I believe we're being tested. Are we going to do the same thing with the 40 things that happened before 9-11 and not connect the dots? Or are we going to go, you know, it might not be that. but we should be all over this. Back in just a minute. Summers here. That means cookouts, weekend visitors,

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just watching this boat drift toward them was bizarre as well. First of all, you think about the people who were on it, which a couple people died. A couple people died with 16 injured. Yeah. So, I mean, it was tragic from that circumstance. Imagine watching it standing on the bridge. People were standing on the bridge. You walk across a Brooklyn bridge above the traffic.

People were standing on the bridge, seeing those masks come and they're going, oh, my, what is happening here? Yeah, your first thought is just someone just massively miscalculate. that they could go under this bridge, but one, you kind of, the way. The way, they don't seem to change direction or slow or anything, and then you realize, okay, and now they lost power. That would make some sense. The question, of course, that you're trying to get at, which is more important, is why? Why are they losing power?

And why could they not drop anchor? When they lost power, they should drop anchor immediately. Immediately. I don't know enough about, especially that ship, which is a, it's a historic, right, Mexican Navy ship that is, you know, it looks like, everyone keeps saying it looks like it's out of the pirates of the Caribbean and it does. But it has electronic control. So it's not. It's not like that. It's been updated. Yeah. So, a little bit. Why, why did that, I don't know. And why did the tugboat? Could the tugbo, I don't know enough about this. So these are stupid ignorant questions for anybody who actually has done this.

Maybe if you're listening, you can call us and tell us. Why didn't they, have it to run a Mexican Navy ship at any point in your, in your head. Why didn't they just drop anchor? couldn't that I mean I know it may not have caught anything but it it should it would should stop you from drifting is that really how ships work really are they still just trying they're just going on like it's like your emergency break you just drop the anchor you just stop right there it's just seems like bizarre like there should be better systems but I guess if you don't have any power yeah that's it that's what keeps you from drifting and that's what was happening it was drifting and then why wasn't the tugboat pulling the opposite direction I mean you know that there's

got to be a simple answer for that. It doesn't seem to have caused much damage other than obviously the, you know, to the bridge of the structures around it. I mean, we already discussed the loss of life, which is significant. But it doesn't seem like it was like a terrorist attack, like they were trying to knock the bridge over or anything like that. And I'm not even saying, I'm definitely not saying Mexico had some plan. Right.

If it was hacked into, it was not hacked into by Mexico, they didn't do that. That's like a China thing or a Russia thing. but I find it I find it fascinating that a bridge that complex the first of its kind

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It's free. Sign up now, glenbeck.com. The most listened to radio podcast in America. We're glad you're here. Thank you for listening. I saw Joe Rogan, FBI special agent, Scott Payne. He's an undercover guy. And he spent like 25 years with the worst of the worst.

I mean, the worst of the worst. The Klan, you know, I'm trying to remember some of the other ones. Base was another one. He went out and he said, I've seen demonic stuff. Because when he was on Rogan, he didn't really talk about his faith. And his faith carries him through a lot of this. I mean, he almost was killed several times. And faith saved him.

In fact, let me play this clip. But this is after I asked him, what is the closest you ever got to being caught when you were undercover? Listen to this. As far as blowing my cover, just getting caught. Yeah, just getting caught. That's the biggest one's probably the outlaws case. That's where they took me down. After a year and a half undercover, they, a year and a half undercover doing all those insurance things, carjackings, whatever, and some dope stuff.

We up the ante to do a big shipment of drugs so they could be introduced because they've been asking. So they could be introduced to some cartel contacts because what does a drug dealer want? They want the highest purity product they can get for the lowest price they can get because then they can step on it and, you know, and make more money. So imagine if you're in Massachusetts and you get a straight pipeline from Mexico, you're probably going to get some good stuff. and we up the ante and then at that year and a half point they carried me down into the basement it's more like a cross space of the clubhouse

and stripped me at gunpoint looking for a wire the problem was as I was wired to the hilt and they almost found it it was close it was close and what are you going to do? I'm like even if you think you're a tough person and you can fight

you're in a crawl space basement whatever I can't stand up straight I could probably touch the wall on both sides they've already shown me their pistols. I'm not free to leave. And even if I could get past those two guys without getting shot,

I got everybody upstairs. I got another probably 10 upstairs with the door locked with a metal bar across it and everything else. And it came close. I had a no crap moment, adrenaline dump,

your auditory exclusion happens, your time dilation happens in your eyes, everything you sees and screen grabs. Everything slows down. Everything you hear is going, whoosh, wish,

real slow. And what seems like an hour is probably a couple of minutes. And I took all my clothes off. I wrote down

my name and everything they wanted me to. I was panicking like crazy. You can clearly hear that my voice does not sound

like this. My throat is a lot tighter. My pitch is a lot higher. Some of my diction is terrible because I'm talking

through my nose because I'm freaking out. And I thought I was done and then clothes line who was supposed to be my buddy not the FBI undercover buddy

but you know the Scott Callaway buddy he he grabbed a piece of clothing and that piece of clothing had some equipment in it and he starts kneading it with his fingers

you know he's like working it he cracked the joke he's like hey man I'm not going to find anything in here I don't want to like some naked pictures of my old lady and I'm like, I hope not, you know. But I'm watching him do this, and I don't even know I do it. You can hear me on the recording go, because, I mean, what am I going to do? And he looked right at it and missed it by that much, by that much.

There's crazy things like that because that's another, it goes back to my faith. That night when I called my wife, I'd always called her. especially during that case, I gave her like a covert phone, a burner phone. I bought and set up so I could call her from my undercover phone.

And I called her that night and the first thing she said is, are you okay? And I was like, yeah, why? She said, man, I was driving and McAllen with the girls if our girls were little at that time about like three and one.

And she said, I just got this overwhelming feeling and I pulled over on the side of road and started praying for you. And that's when I was in the basement. I looked at the time. That's when I was in the basement. Wow.

Yeah, that's some freaky stuff. But, I mean, there's been other things where, like, you know, somebody's got a double-barrel shotgun with both hammers cockback like this on the table, pointing at you going, my brother, and his brother's right there, my brother says you're a cop. And you're looking at his brother going, he's right, because I arrested him when I used to be a uniform patrol, you know? How do you get out of that?

Oh, did you get out of that? I started counter-accusing. Deny, counter-accus. Because I didn't have near as much training back then. That was when I was at the sheriff's office. But, you know, you find yourself in a situation again with another case, poetic justice. You brought it up.

Guys got a shotgun, double barrel, hammer's cockback. I should learn my lesson with those, I guess. And he's like, he's already told me, if I find out you the law, you're a dead man. You hear me? If I find out you the law, you're a dead man. And then I did something to bolster my bona fides, to bolster myself as looking like I know what I'm doing. like I'm really a criminal.

And I overstepped my bounds. I underestimated. And it's a chess game. He got me on that one. The next thing I know, I'm... Can you say what you did? Yeah. I told him that I've been like, hey, man, that dope that I bought last time from his relative,

it was weak. And it was. And any dealer or user is going to know, and they're going to come back and be like, hey, what the hell was that? You sold me, you know? And I told him, I said, oh, yeah. I said, that stuff was weak, man. He goes, well, this isn't.

try this and I was like oh and next thing you know I've got a red bone hound in my crotch and that thing was mean mean I was like you just didn't move you just like because it's going like touching you and you're like okay and then he's got the shotgun

and then there's an open bag of cocaine in my face and he's like just do it just do it and I'm like I'm talking and I'm like man I told you I don't do it I'm laying out everything that I think I could lay out that for me and my my story and then I realized it was it this is his test and I even said I said so this is your test this is it and I just did some real quick hand movement and I didn't ingest anything and I was pissed

I let him know I was pissed but as soon as that happened you have to be able to see is this situation deteriorating clearly it was but as soon as I did that he immediately everything was fine and he's like hey come to the back room here's all the dope my relatives of a cop, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And when it was, it was good to go after that. But I shouldn't let that happen. You know, but again, it's the chess game. You're trying to stay moves ahead while you're still connecting with people and gaining

trust. I mean, there were so many times when I said to him, I don't know how you do it. I mean, I would, I'd have a nervous breakdown. I'd have a nervous. I could not do it. I get uncomfortable watching shows, and I don't mean like, you know, like Mission Impossible. I get uncomfortable when the people are, you know, lying to somebody in like, you know, suits. And they're lying.

And I'm like, you're going to get caught in that. And I get, I mean, like, oh, geez, I couldn't do it. I couldn't. I mean, can you imagine doing that job? When I purchase something and I want, I realize if there's something wrong with it or I don't need it and I need to return it, I make my wife. do it because I don't want to have the conversation with the person at the store who doesn't care at all. That's my life that's different than the life we just heard about.

I don't like, I don't like any of it. I don't like any of it. Most of life I don't like. No, right. I don't like interacting with people. I mean, here we are. Look at what we do. And both of us hate conflict.

Yeah. Because we didn't get into this to do this. We got into this to make fun of this. And then all of a sudden, we were the. Like guys, we're like, what are you talking about? Let me play one more thing. Imagine being in this situation. Again, this is the podcast that came out Saturday.

You can get it wherever you get your podcast, the Glembeck podcast, came out Saturday. This is Special Agent Scott Payne. Listen to this one. I asked him to tell the story when he infiltrated the nation's most dangerous white supremacy group, the base. And what happened on Halloween night? somebody says, does anybody have a gun? We weren't supposed to bring any weapons down there. The one guy who was the least qualified to be handling a live firearm who hadn't slept in probably two or three days was the guy who had the gun.

And it even shocked Luke, TNB. Because me and Lee were like, what? And he were like, what are you doing? And Luke took the gun from him, hands it, and it gets past to Eisen. Well, Eisen chambers around points towards the goat, ram, the head. and then looks away. We're all in a circle. So the instructor in me comes out.

I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing? And he's like, what? And I go, man, look at what you're shooting. We're all in a circle. Jack wagon? You know? I mean, you know, for Odin and everything.

You know? I mean, we're supposed to look because he told me we didn't show this goat love. This goat is being blessed. It needs to. So he comes out. He finally looks and puts a, in, and a pow, and you can hear it on the recording, you hear it fall on the ground. It kicks for minutes.

It's still shivering. I'm like, I don't know if it's dead or not. I'm like, man, put another bullet in it. And he's like, he goes, well, I'm pretty sure it's dead. And I go, you know, for the goat. And it needs to be. Show it love. Yeah, love.

Going to Odin. It's in Valhalla. Kind of. It's still wiggling. Finish it. And then he finished it. And then you think you're done and you're not. They go and slice the throat of the goat.

fill up a big cup with his blood, and I'm holding a flashlight for eyes, and everybody's still on their knees, because we're in the middle of the woods. This pitch black, except for the torches. And I'm shining the light, and he brought acid. So now he's tearing off acid hits off the sheet and giving it to members. Almost every member did it. A couple of us didn't.

But it gives them that, and they chase it with the blood as part of the sacrifice. So by the time the cup gets to me, the blood is all coagulating. It's chunky. It's like clotted. It's like. You got to hear it. You got to hear it. This is, you don't need it now, but this is animal sacrifice,

satanic kind of rituals, what this guy has done to catch these guys. And then, you know, I asked him, I don't know if FBI good guys, bad guys. guys now because you know you're setting people up and we talk about the the Whitmer thing and he knows some people that were involved in the Whitmer thing you need to hear that this guy has lived the life that nobody nobody wants to live and he also talks about the real extremists that if they're domestic what we should be concerned about. It's a fascinating interview.

It was Saturday released Saturday's podcast. You can get it wherever you get your podcast or at the blaze.com. It's retired FBI special agent Scott Payne. So in 1971, something quiet but devastating happened. Nixon took the U.S. dollar off the gold standard. And just like that, money was no longer backed by anything real. And that's when France, believe it or not, they have warships, sent their war. warships in and they're like, give us our gold and we did. Oh, we know we could scare the

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here's uh biden talking about um uh bow hunting went to mongolia and unfortunately embarrassed the hell of a leader of mongolia there showed they were doing what they would do at the time of the invasion of the Mongols into Europe in the 14th and the 800s. And so we're out in the middle of nowhere and they're looking up in the hill and you see this tiny line. You know, it's a 20-mile horse race with all these kids under age of 16-hour bearback racing to come down. And, you know, there are sumo wrestlers and doing everything they do. And so they walked over and they had a target big bales of a hang 100 yards away. away and these gorillas were you know taking shots and I think I don't know

that's embarrassed me or trying to make a point but handed the bow and arrow I'm not a bad archer but all I found that were if I could pull it back so I got true of luck I hit the target oh I really did. Bails of hay that were like 20 bills of hay with a big target in the middle of a bail night and so So I didn't meet anything, but I turned a prime minister to hand at the hear. The poor s'b-c couldn't pull back. Wow. So the prime minister of Mongolia couldn't pull back the arrow in the bow.

But he did, and he hit the target. That's an amazing thing. What an amazing story. I'm sure that had a lot of relevance to what they were talking about with documents. But the leader of North Korea, he also has, he has, He's played a perfect game. Got a hole in one all 18 holes. First time he golfed.

First time. He shot an 18. It's hard to do. I don't know if people know that. But he might have been with the Prime Minister of Mongolia who didn't shoot an 18. That might be it. Yeah, maybe. But Joe Biden, he did all 18 holes, six.

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Last night I was sitting in a theater. My daughter was doing a final performance of something in this theater that she's been working with. And I get a text. a massive storm is headed your way. I just put the map down, you're the X. Here's the giant storm with multiple funnels. And I like, well, I mean, I like funnel cake. Is that the same thing?

It's not. We're right in the path. And I'm sitting there and I show it to Tanya and she went, hmm, that's not good. And I'm like, no, no, it's not. good. What do we do? I'm not equipped to live in places where there's tornadoes. They're just, they freak me out a little bit because they just, they can come down at any time and just suck you into the air. Yeah. It's, it's unlike, you know, like a hurricane you see coming for a while. Like a blizzard,

you know what's going on. It's more like a, it's more like living in California. Earthquake is the other one. Yeah. Earthquakes and mudslides. Those things, those and tornadoes. Tornadoes should be in California. Just all those really unpredictable things. Yeah. You know. I mean, you get. get the great weather most of the time and then you have to deal with one or two really weird things yeah right this is just weird it's just weird it didn't know what to do and it was and luckily I got another text like 15 minutes later and he's like he writes to me says that to me I'm like what what what what what what what should we do and then I get a text this where you should go in case it gets uh in case it gets a little crazy range should start in 15 minutes and so he's like

you know go to the sheraton hotel, you know, two, you know, two blocks down. I'm like, oh, oh, now should I, when do we do that? When do we do that? And Tanya just said, shh, quiet. I'm like, and I keep looking behind me. I could see the door, you know, and I could see out the door. And 15 minutes later, it starts to rain.

And I'm like, okay, okay, all right, I mean, I know, but I mean, really, I mean, screw the kids. We should get to a Sheridan, don't you think? We should get, there's got to be some shelter at the Sheridan. I mean, she's not going to want to leave. She's performing. She's doing a great job. Maybe we should go. So there's something left of the family.

That's good. That's brave of you. I'm sure you want to see the end of the performance. Do whatever you want with the kids. Just leave me alone. Right. You know, leave selflessly. Yeah.

To protect the family. We're going to leave the performance. It's, I mean, honestly, it's a little like, you know, the continuation thing that they do at the state of the union. I was the one to be the designated survivor. I volunteered. I'm like, hey, I will skip the show and be the designated survivor. But nope, no, no, wife wouldn't let me do it. We actually had someone in our extended show family, have in the middle of one of these tornadoes.

Like that giant tree fell through their house. Who? Last night? Yeah, from this recent batch of stores, I don't know that they wanted necessarily discussed on a national radio with personal details. Why? What's going on with them in the tree? I don't think anything. Why wouldn't they talk about it? If they're not doing anything wrong, why wouldn't they talk about it? I mean, I just have not confirmed that they want it talked about.

But I will say that, you know, it's just shocking. When you hear that, it's like someone you know. What's so weird is if you've ever seen where a tornado goes through, it will like skip houses. It doesn't take out usually. It doesn't take out the whole neighborhood. It'll take out like part of your house, all of your neighbor's house. Three doors down. It's all fine.

Then across the street, a house is completely gone. I mean, it's just weird. So random. We had a tornado that hit here in Dallas last year. And it was going close to like where my kids go to school. And I'm like, I know they're at school. And I'm like looking at this thing. And I just, you just feel so helpless.

You're just looking at this, the trail of it's going like directly like near where someone you love is. Yeah. And not to mention it was right after school started. So I knew my wife had just dropped them off where she... Go get them. Like, yeah, but is she at school? Is she in the way back? Is she driving through the path of it right now?

I know. I have no freaking idea. I know. And it's so devastating if it happens to drop right on you. I mean, it's over. He said, this guy who called me, he's one of the protection team. So he's texting me. And I said, well, where would we go?

And he said, whatever you do, just drive north. And I'm like, dude, I don't know which direction is north. What are you talking about? It's night time. Who are you talking to? Oh, yeah. Just drive north. Oh, okay.

I'll look at the stars, which I can't even see or read. Jesus, for the love of me. They act as if we have abilities and skills outside of this room. No abilities. None. None. We're the first to be eaten. Now, let me ask you one other thing.

My other daughter, she's having a birthday today. She's 34. Wow. And I just sent. a note, a text, just happy birthday, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, you know, as a joke, because I don't know what it means, I sent her the salsa dancer. Because everybody else is a family, yeah, this is a family text and everybody is sending all these

emojis and I don't know what any of them mean. But I always like the salsa dancer because I really don't know what that one means. I'm like, what are we going dancing? I don't know. I don't know what it means. And there's a male and a female salsa dancer. I only sent her the male salsa dancer. So after I hit sand, I realized, you know, the eggplant and the peach are not representing fruits and vegetables, you know?

What did you just send your daughter? What did I just send my daughter? Do you know what the salsa dancer? I have never in my, I think in my entire life, sent an emoji. Good for you. I don't think I've ever sent one. Yeah, good for you. So I don't know what any of them mean, although I've seen.

the peach and the eggplant to describe. Yeah, okay. Sarah, please tell me I didn't send something weird. As a parent, you don't just go swinging emojis in text messages. That's step one. That's right. You don't go like the emoji slot machine

is not a game you should be playing. Definitely not. But I did look it up and it came up with the female and it says she represents fun, freedom, zest for life and a positive affirmation like, great. Okay, what is the male. I don't know, but

sex with children. Probably. Probably. My luck. Yes. What is the male salsa dancer? I'm very concerned about this now. Because I didn't realize that you said the, you'd think you'd send the FEMA. Why would you said the male salsa dancer?

Because I was the salsa dancer. I was like, ah, celebrate. Well, it says it symbolizes dancing, celebration, having a good time and expressing joy or excitement.

Also, keep away from children. So your plan here was to say, ah, celebrate. Yeah. I'm the salsa dancer.

I'm telling you to celebrate right now. That was your, that was your play. We're going to celebrate. I like it. I think you should, every day, pick a new emoji

to send to one of your children. And let's see how long it goes until it blows up. to a national scandal. I don't think we get through two weeks. Oh, it's not good. No. You never send random emojis to your children.

Because you never know what could come down. That could be really ugly. I'm glad you survived that one, though. Thank you. Do you think she thought you were sending a message that you understood? So, well, no. because here's what I wrote because at first I really actually

did send the salsa dancer because I don't know what I mean. It kind of seems fun. Happy birthday, Hannah, salsa dancer. I don't know what the salsa dancer means, but salsa seems like the right message today. I like that. Spicy fun. Spicy fun. Well, not spicy in that way.

No, not that way. No, definitely not. It is a spicy condiment, though. Yes. Let's choose another word. Hi. I'm not the one that said it, weirdo. Okay, all right. Let me play Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister from England. A normal transition here, by the way, salsa dancer emoji to Keir Starmer. What show are you even listening to?

I'm angry at the listeners for tuning in at this point. It's all the people. I mean, and you know this. If you're listening, you're going to say to me, preach it, brother. But it's all the people who have just given up on life. They've just been like, there's no way to solve any of these things. 20 minutes ago, I sent a salsa dancer to my kid. It's over anyway.

Let's turn out the Glenn Beck program. All right. So here Starmer. He comes out and he's talking about immigration system permits abuse. Listen to this. So when you have an immigration system that seems almost designed to permit abuse that encourages some businesses

to bring in lower paid workers rather than invest in our young people or simply one that is sold by politicians to the British people on an entirely false premise. Then you're not championing growth. You're not championing justice or however else people defend the status quo. You're actually contributing to the forces

that are slowly pulling our country apart. This is the socialist. This is the socialist. Let me just say it again. This is the socialist prime minister. He goes on to say that this is what the average person has been asking for. Now, I don't know British politics at all. But if this were a Democrat here saying this,

and like the leader of, you know, the people who have been pulling us apart with the immigration stuff, I wouldn't believe that. But that's the first time I think he said anything like that. And he's like, we're going to, we're changing things because this can't stand anymore. Because, you know, the people who are English are not getting jobs. And it's all of these people who are not assimilating into society. And he said, and they're about to. go into a fifth year and in five years you can become a citizen if you've been there for five

years and he said we're going to make that 10 years so okay now what are you going to do in nine years you're going to change it again to 15 years I mean because what he said was because once they're citizens they can go on the dole you're giving them everything you're giving them houses and food and everything else what do you mean on the dole it gets it gets better than that? What were you saying earlier about empires collapsing? Wasn't there a... Yeah.

I think it was a step that describes this exact process. Yeah. Salsa dancer. What's crazy about this is this shows how dead this global movement really is. Now, I'm not saying he's going to do anything, but he's at least now having to be. to recognize and speak the language of his citizens, whether he does anything or not. Just last week they were trying to, you know, hey, how can we put, how can we undo Brexit?

You know, I don't trust these guys at all. But at least somebody is speaking the voice of the streets, at least at this level. Now, if you're a politician, especially one from the EU or Great Britain, you most likely are, yeah, well, I can say that, but I don't have to mean it or do anything. But that is eventually going to come undone as well. And it's going to happen soon, sooner rather than later.

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Welcome to the, Glenn Beck program. We have Mary Cutter coming on in a second. She is a country singer, 50 million video views. Can we play part of her song? Devil wore a lab coat. Listen to this.

We're going to talk to her about the devil wore a lab coat. How dare her? We should. We should send her to Canada. So we're going to talk to her about that song and so much more coming up in just a minute. What else do we miss so far, Stu, that we haven't gotten to? Well, I mean, this is what I've been mainly focused on, honestly, we talked about it a little bit as this Joe Biden book that's coming out this week.

It's tomorrow, actually, is the release of this book. It's the Jake Tapper, Alex Thompson book. Jake Tapper won't come on the show as of yet so far. He's just, oh, man. Can't. This show sells more books than I think any other show. I mean, and every publisher knows it. You will hear people from time to time.

When they get on, they'll go like, we had to get on the Glenn Beck Show. We sell books like crazy. They can't make it. I mean, I will say they are getting a big media push out of this. It's getting a lot of attention possible that, you know, maybe we... This show is known in the industry as the Oprah of Booking. sales. I agree. And we have been very complimentary of his co-author in his reporting at the time, not just after, but at the time, Alex Thompson. So I think at some point, I think they will come on.

I mean, I'd be fair to Jake Tapper. Totally. Did you hear his, someone asked him about, you know, hey, you kind of made some, you were kind of skeptical of the people saying that he had, you know, had some cognitive decline there for a while. Like, what's your, what's your excuse for that? And he said, basically, you know, some of the, he's like, I did cover it some. I should have covered it more. And, you know, that that was a problem. And I should have done better was basically what he said. So, you know, but if you don't have, I don't, I don't excuse these, you know, large

broadcasters because they can, they have access. You can get access. But if everyone is stonewalling you, everyone is stonewalling you, you can't just go on as a news guy and say, yeah, I think you have to go, until you have proof, you have to go with, but you don't have to defend. No, but what you do, look, this is unbelievable, right? Like coming from the media that like we're supposed to accept that, oh, gosh, well, they told us he was fine and what are we supposed to do?

I mean, think of what they did to get access to, for example, Donald Trump's tax records. I mean, I think there might have been crimes committed for them to get access to them. But they tried over it. I mean, they spent years trying to get access to this. By the way, we eventually got them. I was like, oh, yeah, he's rich. I mean, I don't know what we were supposed to get from them. But they were fanatically obsessed with trying to get those answers because Donald Trump said, you know, I don't want to give them to you.

That's how the media is supposed to react. When a president continue, when you see evidence of thing A and thing, they keep telling you thing. be, you get, this is your time to turn on the journalism charm and figure it out and press and press and press until you get answers. Again, I think Alex did that at some level. You know, I don't know. A lot of, a lot didn't. But here is the problem with this book coming out.

This doesn't give us any answers on who's responsible. Who was doing the, you know, the executive orders at the end? I think it gets us to that. At least it gets us moving in the direction to get that answer. That's why I'm happy about it. Hopefully. Hopefully it does. This is Glenn Beck.

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Doctors getting fat from raking in kickbacks all happen so fast. One means pain is another man's paycheck. Our ex-men's at our expense. from the devil wore a lap coat. Mary Cutter is the artist behind that, and another song you might have heard. Let's see. It's Smell the Smoke,

which I think is absolutely the bubble effect, which we have talked about on this program for a very long time. Her lyrics are really intense. Her music is really, really good. Mary, welcome to the program. We're talking with you. Thanks for having me on. You bet.

How old are you, Mary, if you don't mind me asking? I am three. So I think it's going to be a whole of year. You look very, very young, so good for you. Well, I'll taste that. I appreciate that, sugar. Thank you. You bet.

So tell me about Devil Wear a Labcoat. Where is this coming from? Well, I mean, it's coming from my heart. So I grew up in Kentucky. Where in Kentucky? Right in the middle of the state. So where all the bourbons made is where I'm from. So I don't know if you've ever heard of Bardstown.

Oh, yeah. That's literally probably the closest. this civilization to where I'm from. So growing up as a kiddo, when we needed to go to the Walmart, we would drive into Bardstown. So that's kind of where I grew up. But unfortunately, Glenn, just like a lot of parts of our country, I really saw the effects of what big pharma, the opioid crisis.

It just totally wrecked so many lives of folks where I'm from. And it's been on my heart a long time to write about this. I live in Nashville now. And the last couple years, I've been making my bread and butter writing for other artists to sing. And it's mainly commercial country music, right? So I knew I wanted to write this song. I brought it into a couple of writing rooms. Everyone's like, hmm, song about Big Pharma.

What else you got? And finally, I guess it was about a month and a half ago. I was two good buddies in my Brian Alexander and Ross Grebe. And I just told them, I was like, man, you know, I don't know what this song will even do. I mean, I want us to write it like a song that, you know, you could run on the trestubes. mill to and that's just a jam but I want us to not parse words and just say it like it is and we wrote that song in less than 45 minutes and uh I posted just the day of recording and it it did its thing I guess that's how we got connected I mean I'm still mind blown I mean I think

it's like over 24 million views on social media it's been it's been wild but it's because it's so many people have unfortunately you know they they've seen it with their own eyeballs you know you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who has not been affected in some way or knows someone that who has been affected by this crisis. You know, it's really interesting. Back in the 60s and early 70s, music would reflect the things that were going on, the pain and what the average person was thinking. It doesn't do that anymore.

And there's just a couple of you, maybe a handful, that are actually writing lyrics about things that are truly going. on the hard, ugly things that are really going on in the country. Well, that means a lot coming from you, Sugar. You know, there's nothing wrong, obviously, with, you know, writing a song about, you know, being at the bar. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Getting over someone. But what I really do connect with the most is writing songs about real people, real stories. And sometimes that is a little bit more gritty, but a little bit, you know, off the beaten path. But here we are. It seems like that's what the folks really resonate with, too. Is Nashville changing it all?

I'm so afraid that, you know, Hollywood will move out and all the, and they'll start taking that as well. There's something about the lyrics about country songs that they, it is America. It's one of the last bastions of actual American anything. You and Ralph Lauren. You're not wrong. Yeah, you're not wrong at all. And L.A. definitely is moving into town. I think since COVID, especially, more and more folks, you know, we're hopping from California to Tennessee.

And for good reason, Nashville is an awesome place. You know, someone hasn't been here. They ought to come in. It's a great place to visit. It's a great place to, you know, write music every day. You know, you go to the grocery store. You'll run into literally people that are on the radio. You know, it's a small town and a big city.

But the way I see it, you know, I definitely. I'm excited that we're, you know, getting at least new musical ideas and musical ways. Like the producers out in L.A. are so talented. They're bringing those tools teaching us Nashville folks how to do that. But I do think, you're right, especially the lyric writing, it's so important to protect that. And I think, and I think folks, I think they will because I think they know it's special. I hope so. I mean, I'm concerned about with Hollywood moving into Austin, Texas, and so many people moving into Texas, it's a,

a little frightening. We lose Texas to the other culture and, you know, it's not going to go well. Can I talk to you about smell the smoke? Absolutely, sugar. So this is your second most popular song on Spotify. And I have talked for probably 15 or 20 years about something called the Bubba effect. And the Bubba effect is when people know something is wrong, but they just no longer trust the government and they'll take care of their own. And even if they have to punish or whatever, the person in their community,

they'll stand up for that person, even if they know they did wrong and they'll say, I don't know what you're talking about. Or, you know, Bubba is part of our community. Get the hell out of here. That's kind of what smell the smoke is, right? Oh, 100%. And, you know, it's crazy, Glenn. That is a true story.

So, and folks can read about this online. There's even books written about it. There was this group of folks from where I was from. I grew up listening to this story that I ended up writing a song about it. There was this group of fellers named the cornbread mafia. Now, they did not dub themselves that, the FBI did. And back in the 80s, it was just a group of farmers, bankers, preachers that were having trouble making ends meet.

And so they started growing weed in the middle of their fields. And long story short, the FBI actually. caught wind of it. They came down to where I'm from. They rounded them all up. I think there was around 70 people they arrested. Not a single person talked. And it was the largest roundup they had ever had. You know, you know, they would like, you know, round up the mafia back in the day, all that. Some one would normally talk. But where I was from, nobody talked. And they ended up calling up the Cornbread Mafia. And so I wrote that song. And I guess it was a couple months ago, I posted a, I posted a clip of the video. And I always kind of wonder, I was like, you know,

a lot of those sellers are still alive, you know, obviously. That wasn't that long ago. Well, one of the founders reached out to me. I thought, uh-oh, this is either going to be a good message or a bad message, but he really liked the song, which was, it was pretty cool to, you know, just tell the story. I mean, you're not wrong with the Bubba effect. It literally is that. So why didn't they talk?

Why did nobody turn on each other? Just small town, everybody knew each other? I think it's loyalty. And, you know, where I'm from, and just like other next to the woods, especially in rural communities, they feel like they're born behind the eight ball. You know, they can work really hard from dawn to dusk every day and still have trouble being their families. And there is, you know, right or wrong, obviously, but there's also this gray area. And it's interesting to bring up this effect because I honestly, uh, my song Devils Money that is, I guess the, the highest streaming song

so far, that's a true story about my great granddaddy who was a bootlegger. Now he was a bootleger in Barstown, Kentucky. We were talking about the bourbon capital of the world, and he was a very religious man, and while he was a bootleger, he ended up giving a portion of that money to build a church. And so it's just one of those things, once again, was what he was doing against the law? Absolutely. Was he also trying to take care of his own? Absolutely. It's funny, because my grandfather, I found out recently, was a bootlegger. I have a picture of him with the still in the middle of nowhere. Oh my gosh

Yeah Where was that at? Where was that at? That was in Iowa I'm trying to remember where I can't remember yeah But I don't Crazy Yeah he didn't build a church

I think he bought himself a Packard Well you know what both work You know That is really fascinating too Learning about the family history And just the folks that came before us It's so neat Of course social media

connects us all right. And I remember when I first posted devil's money, all these people comment like, my great grandfather with a bootlegerer, my great uncle was, blah, blah. And I was like, wow, I didn't realize it was such a common thing, but I guess it was. You know, those folks doing what they felt like they needed to do to get by. It was not popular with people at all. It was, you know, a group of progressive elites that said, no more liquor. And the whole country was like, are you out of your mind? And then it started to cause more. problems and people just started bootlegging because you're going to drink. The people did not like the law and didn't like the idea that the federal government was going

to come in and tell them what they could and couldn't do. So it's not like it is now, you know, with certain laws. You don't look at it. It's so interesting. It's so interesting. But there is something to be said for one thing is just real folks doing real stuff and sometimes a little bit of a gritty situation. But they're interesting songs to write.

tell you what, Glenn, I have a blast doing it. That's so great. Mary, I wish you all the best of luck. You're just, you're really, you're wonderful. Your music's great and you're just a delight to talk to. Thank you so much. Thank you. Have a good one. You too. Mary Cutter, singer and songwriter in Nashville.

This is her latest. It is amazing to watch the Bubba effect in action, isn't it? I mean, Stu, you were just talking about The woman who called the little kid an N-word, right? That was from a few weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Evidence of that effect potentially around that situation. Yeah, everybody, like, rallied around her, and you're like, I don't want to rally around that, but I understand why she did it. I mean. Not why she did it. Well, I don't know what her. I don't know what her reason is. But I understand there's something else that's going around online the. what was it the

what they're calling it now the black fatigue or something and it's this yeah it's this weird thing I don't even know what it is except it's something along the lines of you know you're just you're tired of being told

you're a racist and and blacks are in on this too so it's not just white people saying blacks are in on this too saying the real you know I'm having a Denny's fight and nobody goes to jail, you know, and you're made to feel, because you're not black, you're made to feel like you're the problem. And, you know, this, the ghetto, people are just tired of ghetto talk, white, black, whatever.

But I, I'm concerned. The racism, the constant accusations of racism has been. And I'm really concerned where that's going because we've swung so far. one way, we cannot let the pendulum swing this far the other direction. Because then it will, then it's vengeance, you know what I mean? And that's really, really bad, obviously. All right, American financing. So you sat down last week to do your family budget and you're pretty sure you blacked out somewhere around gas and groceries. When did being normal get so expensive? Mortgage, credit cards, car payments. It's like everybody decided to have a midlife crisis at once.

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10? This is Joe Biden speaking in 2022. And because it was a four-lane highway that was accessible, my mother drove us and rather than us able to walk. And guess what? The first frost,

you know what was happening. It had to put on their windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window. That's why I had so damn many other people I grew up, have cancer. And why can't for the longest time? Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation. Stop. So he has cancer. That's 2022. And we were told at the time that was a gaff, right? Right. At the time, that was like, oh, you know, Joe Biden, he always says things that are insane.

Yeah. So it wouldn't be a gaffe. It would just be a weird, I have a fire, you've had a fire, we're both firemen, kind of stuff that he used to do. You know what I mean? Yeah, he, I mean, it wouldn't have been shocking if the actual truth was he just said he had cancer when he didn't let's play quickly democrats responsible for major cover-up listen to this do you feel like you were duped fan like what how do you feel um first this this book is extraordinary um uh i don't care who you are left right or otherwise anybody who cares about this country and about just the dynamics of power. This is the Emperor's new clothes playing itself out in real time. Everybody knew, but everyone was afraid to say, except for David Axelrod, for two years, that something was wrong

here. This is amazing. This is Van Jones saying the Democrats, he goes on to say the Democrats, were involved in a massive cover-up and a crime against the Republic. That's pretty significant. And that's pretty true. We'll see you tomorrow on radio and podcast. This is Glenn Beck.