The Glenn Beck Program - Beachgoers Are NOT Mass Murderers | 5/26/20

Episode Date: May 26, 2020

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the overseers of health and safety in this country, and are shaming anybody who goes outside and does things that they don't believe they should be doing. Like, if you go to the beach, then you're essentially a mass murderer. It's interesting to see. of the hatred for people who are going out and sick and tired of being shut in and shut down and locked in and locked down. And now they're just, it's, it was Memorial Day weekend. A lot of people went out and enjoyed it, went to the beach. Yeah.

You know, conducting themselves in a way that is consistent with, you know, the most, the safest activities you couldn't do when it comes to this virus. Well, you're outside. Outside, open air. Yeah. I mean, there's one study I think it's from China where they had over 7,000 cases that they studied. And I think one of them occurred outside. One? Wow.

The chances of it happening outside are very, very low. It's the type of thing that the government, from the beginning, should have been encouraging people to do. Go to the beach, you know, try to stay a little bit away from each other. Maybe don't make out with random strangers on the street. But, you know, stay. Well, you're really limiting what I like to do there then. I know that you're a big, you're a big into this. This is your world.

Make it out with people I don't know. Right. You know. Look, I can't eliminate it from everybody. I'm just saying maybe limited. Maybe try to limit it 20, 30%. You know, is that possible? Oh, man, that's a lot.

Well, we'll try to get, we'll try to see if we can figure out exactly what would work for you and your lifestyle. We can negotiate. Yeah. But the point is doing it outside. If you're going to make out with someone, try to do it outside. The open air situation is a big deal. And it seems to be one of the best solutions to this. comes to transmitting the

virus. Now there's some pictures you saw probably over the weekend. I think it was the Ozarks where they were all jammed together in that pool party, which by the way looked horrible to me for reasons completely unrelated to COVID-19. I don't want to be that close to that many people ever in my life.

This isn't something. It has nothing to do with the virus. Just please stay away from me. There's a lot of guys with their shirts off in tiny bathing suits and they're all cramped in together. Looks awful for a hundred reasons. But so there is the COVID-19 risk there.

Is that something that could lead to an outbreak? It could. Most likely it won't, right? I mean, like we all know, even in the peak of this thing, they were playing NBA and NHL games and they were doing all of these things in these giant gatherings. And as far as I know, there are no known, you know, major super spreader events that came out of that stuff. It does not mean that every time a lot of people get together, there's going to be mass

spread. But it does happen in those situations. You know, there's a funeral in Georgia, famously. There was a choir practice in Seattle. You know, there looks like there was a decent amount of spread from from Mardi Gras. It does happen. It's just not common. There was an election in

Wisconsin where they went to the polling book. And that didn't spread it. No, it doesn't seem like there's anything there. Now, that's an interesting example, too, in that if you look at the footage of that, right? No one's standing within 10 feet of each other.

And if we were going to go and follow those sorts of rules, there's almost no chance of this becoming a big problem. There is the idea that, you know, the Ozarks was not what that voting situation was. First of all, it was in Wisconsin, so it's probably cold because in my mind, it's always

cold in Wisconsin, whether it's July or February. But it was probably cold. You're probably not going to get into a beach situation where everyone's, you know, in bathing suits next to each other. But like if you, if you do if you take basic precautions, right? Like the things that you would have done for previous illness if you were being careful

about it, like if you knew someone was sick at work, you know, someone comes in and they're just sick, they're just coughing. You're, you say, okay, well, number one, maybe you should go home. Number two, let's just stay a little bit away from each other, right? Let's just like kind of back off and like, I'm going to stay over here just so I don't want to get sick. I don't want to deal with it. I want to get past to my kid.

Those things that you always would do when you assume someone was sick, probably a good idea to do now, right? And if you do those things, there's almost no chance that it's going to be. We're going to have a massive re, you know, the flaring up is going to occur again, unless something dramatic happens with mutation or whatever. Yeah. But this is the thing, this weekend, it was all about shaming people who went to the beach, which is, again, one of the safer activities you can engage in.

Then there was, then there was the instance in Staten Island, New York, where they literally chased a woman out of a grocery store because she was. wasn't wearing a mask. I mean, this is, you can't even understand what they're saying for all the bleeps because they're swearing so much at her, yelling the F word at her, calling her all kinds of names. I think they call her a hoe at one point. They call her every name in the book. She's not wearing a mask.

They're all wearing masks. So shouldn't they be protected? You're protected from her. You got the mask on. Right? Is that why you're wearing the mask? But here's what happened at that grocery. Get out.

Is that crazy? What do you think? And in one case, the guy's pulling down his mask so he can yell at her louder. That's great. Moron. You know, I don't, I've been to a lot of grocery stores. If you look at me, you know I'm around food a lot. And I haven't seen anything like this.

Have you? I don't know. And I'm not wearing a mask and I haven't. It's a little bit different in Texas, right? I guess maybe. But it is a, it does seem to be happening. And that's, that was in Staten Island, you know, New York City, part of New York City. So it's a little bit more.

A little more sensitive. My understanding too is that is a rule of the store. Now, as a person who, you know, believes in the, you know, the power of private business and ownership. Yeah, you can institute that rule. They can institute that rule. They can. And you should leave if you don't want to deal with it. because they can make a rule of, you know,

that's something that a private business can do, right? I'm okay with it, although I don't necessarily agree with it. You know, it is something that they should be able to do. That has nothing to do with what that clip is, though. Right. The people screaming in front of the frozen Brussels sprouts is a little over the top. People shouldn't be acting that way for really any reason. And, you know, this is something where people are,

we obviously don't know everything about this virus. we obviously don't know what's going, you know, what's right and what's wrong going forward. We're going to do our best. And the fact that you go in there and you are going to get screamed at by a bunch of annoying, you know, do-gooders is really an irritating process. Yeah. And you're doing something that in the beginning, the CDC said the masks weren't going to help. In the beginning of this thing, if you remember what the CDC did. guidelines were, they said the masks really don't do any good on this.

Yeah, and then they switched. And then they switched. Well, okay, but which do I believe? Your early thought or your later thought? Because you told me both things. I know. So how do I know which is accurate? Well, you don't.

You don't. Scientists don't really know exactly what they're doing right now. They don't. I don't think they have any idea. We keep hearing, okay, the virus spreads in the air. It doesn't spread in the air. in the air, it doesn't hang. It lives on surfaces. It doesn't live on surfaces. Right. It's easily spread on contact. It's not easily spread on contact. And look, at some level,

this is different than butter and margarine, right? Those things have been around for a while. Why are they switching all the time which one we're supposed to use? It's a novel, new coronavirus. They don't know all the restrictions and rules on it. There are things that have changed. And I think some of that is understandable, given the circumstances. It's a global pandemic. that just started a few months ago. Right. So they are still learning about it. That's okay.

But that is more of a reason to not, you know, be screaming at people. Right. In the frozen food aisle about it. Exactly. If the experts are still changing their opinion, maybe you don't know either. Triple 8.

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This one actually did surprise me though, because I didn't see, this is like an M. Knight Shyamalan clip to me. Okay. You know, are there dead people? He sees them, you know? But guess what? He's dead too. It's like there's like a real.

a real twist on this one. Okay. All right. This is... Did you just spoil the ending, by the way, of the sixth sense? I don't even know... It's only been out for 21 years? Oh, God. Spoiler alert.

Wow. Spoiler alert. Wow. I was just going to watch that tonight. Bruce Willis is really dead. And he's about 20 years older than he looks in the movie, which is crazy. Here is a clip from... This is, I think it's CTV in Canada.

And just to give you a quick scene setting, they're doing the typical... I've known. noticed young people are out of the park in the nice weather type of report where they're criticizing whether why they're not wearing masks and all this other stuff. So in the middle of her interview, a guy walks up to her and just plants one. Kind of what we were just talking about Patty. You know how you go out and you make out with people randomly in the streets? Is that your lifestyle? And we don't criticize that. Thank you. That happens in this in this footage. She's standing there talking with her dog. Listen to the clip and tell me where you think this is going.

I feel as if masks are not 100% important. I feel as if you want to... A spontaneous kiss from someone that she doesn't know. Oh my God. No, I met him for a second with my dog. That's insane. Are you all right? Yeah, he's so hot.

Having met just minutes earlier, Gillian McAwan said, she's okay with the kiss. We asked Jack Ring, the man who initiated the kiss, if he's aware of all the risks of kissing a person you don't know during a pandemic. Do you worry about possibly

either of you having that, contracting, passing it, anything? Not a decision to say it right now, but yeah, I probably do right now. I think the kiss was worth it. So the kiss was worth it. It was worth it. Pretty good, right? Now,

you see the tone of that reporting, right? Oh my gosh, these guys aren't wearing masks, and now they're kissing each other in the park. I don't know. Like, this is an interesting part of this. And luckily, Pat, you and I don't have to worry about it. But like, do we just turn off courtship entirely? Like, how do you date in this environment? If we're in perpetual lockdown mode, do we just end the species because only the people who

are together can ever touch each other again? Like, at some point, there's no more babies that come out of that situation. I hate to alert people on that. But we have a, we have to take a one minute break here, Pat. I would like to know, just take a minute. Everybody in their car, you're driving, if you might be actually out of the house today, congratulations. And think about where does that clip go?

Because there's a twist to it that I don't, I would have never predicted after watching that clip. So we're going to take a one minute break. Think about what is the M. Knight-Sharmelon twist on what you just listened to or back in one minute. No matter where you are in the U.S., Memorial Day weekend is happening everywhere. And Blinds.com, the number one online reach.

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And here's the clip. There's an M-night Shyamalan twist. We'll give you one more chance to listen to it. And then we'll reveal what the real story is here. Listen. I feel as if masks are not 100% important. I feel as if you want to. Sorry to interrupt it.

A spontaneous kiss from someone that she doesn't know. Oh my God. No, I met him for a second with my dog. That's insane. Are you all right? Yeah, he's so hot. Having met just minutes earlier, Jillian McAwen says she's okay with the kiss. Check me!

We asked Jack Ring, the man who initiated the kiss, if he's aware of all the risks of kissing a person you don't know during a pandemic. You worry about who. possibly either of you having that, contracting it, anything? Oh, not a decision to say it right now, but yeah, I probably do right now, but I think the kiss was worth it. I love that. That's a great idea.

You know, I didn't really think about it. I'm thinking about it right now, but the kiss was worth it. That's great. Can I guess a twist? Yes. They both died of COVID-19 the next day. The next day, you got it. Both dead.

That would be weird. That would be weird. That was when they passed it. But it would be a sad twist. When you zoom in, you can see the molecules going from one mouth to the other. That's the twist. Okay. So what is the Eminich Chambelon twist here?

This is amazing. CTV, the network that aired that, has apologized for airing an unwanted kiss. They're saying it's a Me Too violation because he never asked her whether he was allowed to kiss her. Isn't it only a Me Too violation if she's offended by it? Right. That's what I thought. And she clearly was not. No.

In fact, she says she laughs. First of all, she laughs hysterical. To the point, she literally snorts. Yeah. Yes. She's so excited by this kiss. She's cracking up and she snorts. Then she says, she says, no, he's so hot.

He's so hot. She was not offended. She says that they had met earlier for a few minutes. And also says, text me afterwards. So she's saying, like, she wants future contact and insinuates at least, right? You'd have to know that she's already given. her phone number to this guy. Mm-hmm.

Right? Mm-hmm. But that is not enough. The, I believe it's the Dandelion initiative. The Dandelion? The Dandelion initiative. Which is an important initiative. I know you know that, Pat.

Oh, of course. Because you had to deal with it all the time because you're constantly going out and making out with people. Strangers. So the Dandelion has been all over you. Yeah. But they were very upset, started an online pushback against this. they said they were very grateful for the apology.

The network apologized for airing it because a kiss from an unknown person is wrong in every circumstance despite she's now lost her own agency to approve of the kiss. Wow. So this is not just a hey, let's shame people in the park for not wearing masks. It's also let's shame people for kissing people even when they like it. It's a me too violation. This is the world you live in now where I thought we had left some of this crap behind because we've got a serious pandemic going on

and maybe the nonsense would go away. Nope. But maybe it's a positive sign. It's peering its little head back in. We're getting all the old stupid crap that we used to have to deal with. Yeah. Which honestly would be a welcome respite

from dealing with death all the time. Wouldn't it though? Yeah, I was, you know, we complained about 2019 because, well, there was, you know, all the gender stuff, all the personal pronouns. My personal pronouns are he, him, hers, or me, my, ours, or they, them, theirs. And then that went away for a little while. But now it's, you're right, it's all starting to sneak back in. And now the Me Too movement is coming back.

So we should be excited, I guess. Yes. I mean, because as they say, CTV News apologized for airing a clip that featured, quote, non-consensional consensual behavior. You heard You see every She was totally consenting to that.

Totally consenting to it. Yes. Unless she, unless they, our new standard is she had to get a notarized form to receive a kiss. That is a completely is the most consensual thing I've ever seen. Yeah.

Right? Like she is not only consenting to it. She's thrilled to the point of outwardly snorting. And they still apologized for it. Incredible. And if you were opposed to it in the beginning, you pushed the guy away, right, from the start. Yeah. She clearly did not do that.

She clearly does not. She says, text me. Again, trying to insinuate further contact. Does he have to fill out the form next time? And the guy's like, now remember, this is a guy who they gave the name out of. They gave his name out on the air and accused him now of non-consensual behavior. And he says, he actually responds to it. He says, like, look, I don't understand.

He says, let's see, Jack Ring. The Toronto told the Toronto son Friday. He's been getting a lot of comments that his actions were sexual assault. But he said he met the woman earlier that day and they had spent time together. She sat down with us for the whole day and she was telling me she likes me. I went to the shop and when I was away, she had to leave. So she left her number with a friend and she told me she wanted to get together. So I came back and they told me what she said.

I seen her being interviewed so I went in for the kiss. People are assuming some random girl I don't know, which is weird. He's like, I didn't even. Amazing. That's an amazing thing. And now they basically called this guy a rapist for kissing a girl who wanted to be kissed by him. Amazing. You know, the last few months have really reminded us what's important in life.

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The CBC apparently broadcast that. Now they've apologized because he didn't ask her in advance or whatever if he could kiss her and people are pissed off on her behalf. Well, wait a minute. If she's not mad, why do you care? You can't. You're not the judge of that. She is. And she enjoyed it.

Clearly. Everybody knows that. And what's empowering for a woman here? Is it that some, you know, male executive gets to decide, oh, that was a non-consensual situation, or that she gets to decide that it's a non-consensual situation or not. She's the one that should. Does that mean that there can be no spontaneity anymore in a romance at all?

You can never just kiss somebody. Right. I mean, that's, it's part of the magic, right? Yes. Like, if you're just saying, ma'am, I am thinking about putting my lips on your lips. Would you mind signing this notarized? We'll get the notarized. Then we can have the kiss afterwards.

We'll just sign this form and we'll have our lawyers negotiate. Intriplicate, please. Sign here, initial here. Sign there and initial right there. Like the magic that loses the magic of a first kiss. Does it not? Yeah, big time. I mean, if you were to, if you were to survey the audience right now,

every happily married couple, take a, I don't know, a hundred happily married couples and ask them on their first kiss, did you ask for permission to start that? kiss with outward like permission obviously we all get physical signals right like that's how most people would would try to calculate whether they're allowed to do it or not you know does she seem into it does he seem into it then you go for it right i mean that's kind of how it usually goes there's a leaning there's a there's a certain amount of leaning towards each other that indicates the kiss is coming there's all these things this is a dance right it's it's this is supposed to be something

that's not easily defined that's what makes that's the magic that's the magic of a relationship. So instead, there's this now, this thing where you have to have it down in black and white. And if you said, asked 100 people, what would the percentage be who actually physically ask, may I kiss you or can I kiss you?

20%. Maybe there could be a reason why you might do it. It might be a romantic ask and a certain certain... Especially if it was 10 years ago or more. The chances, I think, go way down. The chances that you said, may I, may I kiss you?

Because I I mean my wife kissed me on our first kiss Oh my God Was it a non-consensual? She did not ask my permission Stu

She did not ask me If it was okay In fact she jumped me And practically knocked me Over the railing Into her parents' bushes I barely caught my balance She just

She just leapt in and went for it. And she did not say, may I kiss you, please. Now, this is, this is stunning to me because, look, I love your wife's cookies, which sounds more flirtatious than it is. He actually has a kick cookie company, scrumptious cookie.com. Exactly right. Right. I would like to go buy more cookies there, but I'm a little, after this non-consensual news, I'm a little, right? I don't, I don't, I don't want to support a business like that. You're a little disgusted by her, right? And yes, it was, you know, 37 years ago.

But still, that doesn't make it right. I can see the echoes of that event in your soul. Do you see that I'm still a little bit troubled by it? No, look, we can go back and watch, you watch the Mad Men era, right? Where like every secretary went by and got groped as they were bringing their copies to the, to the executives. No one wants to go back to that. I mean, we're not, no one's arguing that. There was a clip actually that happened relatively recently.

was a news anchor was filing a report. And I want to say someone came by and, like, gave her a little, like, slap on the butt as they were walking by. And she got, and, like, completely inappropriate. Completely wrong, obviously. And there's a good, a good example for, you should be outrage. I would be outraged. If that happened to my wife, I would be freaking pissed off, right? And so I understand that, like, totally.

That's a totally different situation than someone being kissed and outwardly telling you, she's excited about it. and you still apologize for it and basically call this guy a rapist. Yeah, it's terrible. You're telling you. It's just ridiculous. When you have him on camera, you've given his name, and then you're saying he was engaging in non-consensual behavior. Like, what is this guy's life like today?

I guess if you've seen the clip, everyone would say, come on, that's ridiculous. But still, you now have it kind of on your record until the end of time. When there's no victim, by the way. No victim. No victim at all. That's a victimless crime right there. Yeah. And it seems like it's a real crime now.

So I don't know. A, I have no idea. You know, even though your terrible origin story of your relationship, which sounds so devastating for you. Yeah. It was horrifying. It was horrifying. That aside, I keep thinking to myself, good God, I'm glad I don't have to date in this

environment. I would have no idea what the hell to do. I would have no idea. I feel for you if you're out there trying this right now. And especially in the workplace, how do you meet anybody at work now? You can't, right? you can't even approach somebody in a romantic way at work. Yeah.

Otherwise it's sexual harassment. That was my only chance too. Because, I mean, you know, look, I don't have a game. You know, not a guy who could achieve. There wasn't a lot of picking up in bars that was going to go on in my life. The only chance I ever had was being around long enough to annoy them into taking, you know, to entertaining the idea. That was basically my only approach. And it worked at least once.

So you have that going on. The work thing is a big part. Especially if you think back to, you know, in our industry in particular, this is as dumb of an industry as it is. It's one that you are constantly working, especially when you're young in your career. If you're not working 20 hours a day, you get nowhere in this industry. Because there's a lot of people who want to be on the radio and want all their free concert tickets and all the crap that goes along with radio as you're coming up in it.

every, you know, a lot of people want to do it. So you have to outwork everybody. You have no time to do anything. You know, there's no partying. There's no, like you might get a little bit of that here and there. But generally speaking, it's just one of those industries where you're working for no money, really long hours, doing work that no one else wants to do. That's essentially your first 10 years in the industry for most people.

And that is a situation. It is not conducive at all to going out and dating people who aren't also in your industry. Yeah. You know, it's difficult. weekends, working nights, working holidays, all of that stuff. You know, I think back to my wife who's also in radio, no surprise. She, we used to have, she would have New Year's Eve gigs every New Year's Eve. And so if you think about like the typical New Year's Eve couples thing that you do,

you're out somewhere, the ball comes down and you kiss your significant other, kind of like that typical thing that happens. I know with you, Pat, you make out with random strangers on the street usually in that moment. Like crazy. But like, so for 15, 20, years, myself and my wife, she would be on stage doing a countdown at some club, because that was what she did, and I would be sitting by myself at the bar watching, waiting for her to be done so we could go home together. But there was no, none of that stuff happened because she was always

on stage, randomly making out with other people. No, I'm not kidding. That didn't happen. Pat was there one time, but forget it. So my point is, that is like, it takes you out of that realm. And a lot of jobs are like that. It's not just radio. When you're really, you know, busting your butt to try to get somewhere in your career, those are the people you're around. So now you can't do anything with them. You apparently can't even, if you meet someone randomly in the park and spend a day with them, you can't even kiss them even when they want that to happen. I would have no idea how to navigate these waters. I don't know. I would have absolutely no clue. And if you're trying to do it, especially if you were someone who maybe had a relationship early, that a long-term relationship when

you were, you know, let's say you're in your early 20s, you're in a long-term relationship, maybe you get married, you get divorced, and now you're back on the dating scene, and you're trying to jump back into that world after already dealing with it? I don't know how anybody would do it. Look at this. This woman in a park had, that's a nice origin story, isn't it? I think so. Right? Like, if they get married, 30 years from now, they're going to be like, so we're in the park and we're hanging out and I had to go to a store. I came back, she was gone, but she left her number. And I really wanted to count. you know, contact her

was so excited. And then I saw her across the park. She was in the middle of a news interview. And I just walked right in and I gave her a kiss. And that's how mommy and daddy met. How I met your mother. Those are awesome stories. Yeah,

that would be a great story. Now, I thought this one was going to end differently because when you first kissed her, I thought, oh, she's going to be pissed. Yeah. And nope, the exact opposite.

And so then you're fine. Okay. Well, it turned out well. So now they got something to tell their grandkids if that worked out. It's, yeah. It's a nice story.

And I'll say, you know, to the point of the whole, coronavirus part of this. We act as if you can take, think about this. You're taking everybody in their 20s who's single, whose entire life for the past few years, has been go to a bar, try to meet girls,

go to a bar, try to meet guys. It's courtship. You're in that period of your life where that's a big part of it, right? And you're basically saying with a shutdown, just turn it all off for a few months. like that is not something you can just do easily. This is an entire world where you're saying no courtship, essentially, in your prime courtship era, just turn it off for a few months.

And you know what? Maybe it's 18 months. Maybe it's, maybe it's, it's so we get a vaccine. Could be a few years. Like, that's completely insane. It's a foundational part of the, it's a building block literally of the human existence of our species. You can't just turn it off. How would you meet people?

If you're not allowed to go near another human being, how do you have a relationship? You're asking these people, some people who, what if you're dating someone and it's like you're on the borderline? Does this continue? Does it not? Well, I guess it doesn't because we can't see each other. Like, this is a big ask.

And the fact that people want to go out and be at a pool within six feet of each other after multiple months of not being able to see another human being, not a crazy instinct. It's not. You do your best, right? We can't turn society off. It's not just the economy.

It is society. Here we are talking about the reason our species continues to exist. Right? Like it's that big of a deal if you extend it long enough. You kind of have to allow some of that to happen.

Well, like you said, we don't even know how long this continues. They've been telling us, what, might last up to 18 months. It might last. up to 18 months. I mean, you know, with the economy, that's absurd. But with relationships, it's dangerous to civilization.

Right. What is the, like, everyone's like, oh, there's going to be this big birth boom in quarantine, which I don't know if that has happened. I kind of tend to doubt it. People who are already married, maybe? Maybe. Although I tend to think everyone was just disgusted with each other after a couple of weeks. It's potentially revealing from my own situation.

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and totally reasonable. And thank you for finally saying it. Yeah. And it's smart for him to say. It is smart for him to say. I wish you would have said it before this, but that's, I mean, I can't argue with that.

That's, that's, he's not, I mean, he has been saying all along, I'm the medical guy. I'm the one who tells you what to do medically. I'm not the economy guy. Although now he is saying,

we can't stay locked down forever because it will destroy the economy. And it will. So it will. Of course it will. And that's why, you know, if you want to look at this in a positive light of what we've attempted to do here, you can look at it like a panic room, right? Someone's breaking into your house.

You go into your panic room. You lock the doors down. You wait for police to come. But that's a temporary solution. It is not an, it's not an extensive solution. If you stay in your panic room for the rest of your life, you eventually just die. Right? Like, that's not a good, it's not a good idea.

It's a temporary, horrible, it's a horrible solution to a problem. to a problem that is massive. Locking yourself in a room in your home with no windows is not a good solution for almost any situation. Just one situation it's a good solution for, which is there's someone breaking into your house with a gun. This is the same thing that we have attempted here, whether you can argue whether you like the results or not.

I think everyone understands that it's terrible for the economy. It does have long-lasting repercussions, and it will be damaging the longer it goes. goes on. You can't, you can't let this stuff go forever. And places like L.A. County in particular, even New York is opening up. L.A. County's like, August 20, 26. We're going to start. That's got a 25% capacity at restaurants. I'm like, wait a minute. I can't believe how many people live in the conservative movement, too, are dealing with life in L.A. County right now. That's got to be, yeah. That's got to be hell. Yes. And it will be hell again if they shut us

down again if there's a second wave. That's what I'm a little nervous about is the second wave if it comes. And it might. There might be a second wave. And then, you know, they will insist once again that we shut down the economy again. And we've got to be ready to say, no, not this time. We're not doing that. Yeah, that was one of the initial solutions they were talking about, which was you lock it down first, get the disease down low. And then every time you have a new outbreak, you just lock it down again for another month. And you're like, so you're like two months in in regular life and then back for a month in lockdown and back and forth until we have a vaccine.

I can't. That's just screwing with people's heads. Yeah. I don't know that you could deal with that. I don't know how society would would handle something like that, especially American society. You know, like they did a lot of stuff. We wouldn't handle that well.

Yeah. Like there's a lot of places that attempted things like this in Asia, but it's a totally different culture, right? Like it's a culture that was, it's much more used to dealing with the government telling you you're not leaving your home for a certain amount of time. This is totally foreign to the American culture. And look, we gave it this time. It was obviously a serious thing.

I mean, these numbers are higher than almost anyone predicted. But still, like, we did that. We need to find a way going forward. We gave you your time to prepare. There's a lot of sacrifice. It's already been done. We have to be able to go back to normal life at some level, even if it's with some precautions.

It's only sensible. And even our overlord. Anthony Fauci is saying that. This is the Glenn Beck program. With Pat and Stu. Welcome to it. Great to have you with us. A couple of sports notes.

NBA's in talks with Disney about finishing their season at the Disney complex. ESPN has this wide world of sports complex with all kinds of basketball courts, soccer, fields. Baseball diamonds, and Major League Soccer and the NBA are both talking with Disney about doing their seasons there, which would be a pretty good place. I mean, they've got 24,000 hotel rooms. They've got all the venues and you wouldn't have any people there except for the players, obviously, just doing the games. And it'd be a great place to kind of just be secluded away from everybody and finish. things up. It's the Polyshore Biodome approach to Major League Sports, where you're just going to basically

keep people quarantined away from the rest of society. Yeah. And the reason, one of the big things is they're so worried about one person testing positive on one of these teams. Because if that happens. Four or five do. And then they shut it down again. What they've said is, if somebody gets it, and they will. Somebody probably will. Yeah. I mean, it's likely, I guess, that someone will get it when everybody comes together. you just quarantine them

and keep going you don't have to shut down the season again right but will they do that I think you have unless it's like a really big problem I think you have to just keep going I think so too

one person testing positive I think you're right you quarantine what happens when eight people on the same team do on an NBA team that has you know 12 to 15 people then you got a problem on an active roster

what happens if like you're in the NBA finals and LeBron James tests positive for COVID what happens yeah Obviously, in LeBron's case, I would say he should be ejected from the league and never return. But let's say a player that I like it happens to. Seriously, like, you know, you know, Janus for the Bucks test positive during the NBA finals.

What do you do? What do you can't take away the NBA MVP off of a team in the middle of the finals, can you? But yes, they absolutely would have to. Do you delay it? Do you wait a couple weeks and wait for him to be, you know, asymptomatic test negative? make sure everyone else. You have to decide all those things in advance. Oh my gosh.

It's going to be crazy. They've got to be thinking about all that, right? They have to be. What if LeBron gets COVID-19? Do you shut down the league or do you keep going? And I think you keep going. As long as it's just LeBron. If it's 15 people spread across different teams,

then you probably have to stop. Yeah. There's some level of right where this just becomes insane. 20 guys get it. Then you're worried about a pandemic sweeping. through the NBA and killing NBA basketball players, you'd probably stop. So.

And the way they're changing the seasons up, you know, they're trying to be basically a half season for baseball. Where they're starting an 82 game season. Hockey. 25% pay. So I don't know that that ever happens because the players aren't pleased. No. They're not happy about it.

And I will say it's an interesting approach to fight about money in the middle of this. It's a tough thing to take. You know, your fans are, you get 38 million people out of work. Yeah. And you're like, you know what? I'm sorry. I can't do it for $2.9 million.

I'm not doing it for that. Half work at $2.9 million? No way. I don't cross the street for $2.9 million. Nope. But on the other hand, from the players' perspective, I signed a contract to play this sport. Yeah.

When you're making $40,000 a year, though, you don't understand the guy who won't play for $3 million a year. It's tough. It's a tough one. You need to really be careful. Like the pitcher who was talking about that. Who was that? Is that Snell?

Blake's Snell? Yeah, it was. It was. who makes seven and a half million and I think he was talking about working for 2.5. And you were like, okay, you won't do that. Yeah, he said it's not worth it for me to do. It's not worth it. Now, he's a guy who's going to get...

You'll make zero if you don't play at all, right? But he's a guy who has a future where he's going to be making probably $20 million a year and doesn't want to risk going back and risk, really more than, you know, I don't know, like risking injury for $2.5 million for him is probably not sensible financially. Yeah, maybe. However, you have to take contact. into the equation here. You're in the middle of a

of a pandemic where people have been locked in their homes. 38 million people are out of work. At some point, do you just say, look, I would have dreamed to play a half season in the major leagues for $2.9 million my entire life until probably a couple years ago.

Yes. Maybe I suck it up here and just go for it. They lose that perspective though, I think. But like, think about this, Pat. You go back to, you're a mere major league baseball player. you don't, you're thinking of yourself. You're not thinking about the average person. What's the best thing for your situation?

And you know what? You think, well, I'll go back. And the first time I've got muscle soreness, I'm out. I can't pitch. I'm hurt. Like, are you, there's going to be guys faking injuries. There's going to be guys who are, you know, I have a minor surgery that I could get or play this season.

Screw it. I'm getting the surgery and staying home. They're going to have to pay me anyway. And then I don't risk, I don't have this risk associated. not everyone's going to do that, but it's going to happen. All this stuff is crazy. I mean, you think about,

there's a huge story today about how tons of companies, they, they, they, one of the, I'm trying to think which insurance company, nationwide maybe, the nationwide is saying

that the work at home thing is working so well for us. We're going to go from 20 nationwide offices, hubs to four. Oh, wow. We're going to go from 20 to four because everyone's working at home

is working out fine. So we're like, well, we're going to keep going with that. A ton of companies are going to find out that, you know, we really don't need these. Do we need this giant building? Right.

Like, why, we have, like, 20 floors of this building? Why don't we have one floor of this building? Yeah. You know, like Manhattan, that's already an issue. Yeah. Commercial real estate is going to be a real concern. Big time. You know, because a lot of these companies can do it.

They have found out. It works pretty well. Yeah. We're doing okay. I was talking to someone around here who, who's normally in the office and came in just, you know, randomly to pick up a couple things. And it's just working great for us at home. Like we're able to be really productive.

It's even to be focused. I don't have to worry about all these side conversations I'm coming in and having with everybody who's passing by. Yeah. It's the opposite, the very opposite of what was in fashion a few years ago, which was the open office. Right.

Where every single meeting we have, everything you do should be in full view of everyone. So you can always, and I have always hated that. We used to be bust on Glenn for that because he loves the open office thing. But like, this is the total opposite, right? Yeah.

No one knows anything. has any idea what you're doing. I have no idea what the productivity levels are, you know, nationwide when it comes to business. That's a whole change of society. When you look around, we're about the only ones who come into the studio.

Yeah. It's just us. There's about 10 people here maybe on a daily basis. Like, you know, when it comes to people who help get the show on the air, a few others. But it's interesting because when you look around at any media, they're always at home.

Yeah. They're at home. Almost everybody. I do think, tell me if you think I'm wrong on this, Pat. I think at some level it's become a virtue signaling thing. Yeah. Look, I'm at home. I'm being responsible.

Right. Like, why wouldn't you, let's say you're, you've got, you're running the Stephen Colbert show or John Oliver, right? You can rent a facility. Or you could retrofit a part of his 10,000 square foot house to make it actually into a studio, right? Like, so it doesn't look like he's on. Skype.

Right. Like, this would not be difficult for any of these companies to do. In a way, they're just virtue signaling like, look at us. We're in this with you. We are in this with you. See, there's a bookcase behind him. That means he's in his basement right now. Just like you are.

Yeah. We're all in our basements. We are right now. We're the same. Now, sure, my bookcase is 14 stories tall. Yes. But I'm just like you. And it's in a five-story library that's in my home.

but don't notice that part. There's some video that went to, you know, somewhat viral video of, you know, it was kind of a parody of the imagine thing that they did at the beginning of this pandemic. Remember all the celebrities were like, imagine there's no heaven. It's easy if you can or whatever about the stupid lyrics, that song. And they all like traded it off and everyone made fun of them. And they did a rework of that with Eat It by Weird Al, which just randomly all saying it very seriously to the camera. I think it was Bob and David from Mr. Show.

They did a reunion thing for charity and put this. The very last part of it, though, is weird owl. And he's very dramatically saying, just eat it. Like into the camera. And then he ends it with, we're all in this together. And then it just pans. And he just realized he's in this ridiculous mansion in the Hollywood Hills. We're looking all of Los Angeles, like intentional snow planned to show that he's not in it with you at all.

He's weird owl. The guy's been making parody songs. And he's a multi-millionaire. And he has no connection to your life at all. Okay? That's the truth of it. It's got a $30 million mansion in the Hollywood Hills. Great for him.

I do not begrudge him at all. But they're not in this together with you. No. No. This is the Glenn Beck program. Getting a fresh start doesn't always have to take forever. If you're a homeowner who's focused on your budget right now and how you're going to make things stretch to fit the immediate future,

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They're always good. I can get it. I could watch any of them. I love it. And I like sports anyway. And I like documentaries. So this is right down my alley. But still,

they do a very good job with most of these. And they just came off with my group. Armstrong's a fascinating subject. He is. They just came off with this Jordan thing, the 98 Bulls, a 10-part series that got ridiculous ratings. It was great. And at the end of it, they started promoting.

Okay, now we're going to do this every Sunday in this slot. We know you're kind of conditioned. Hey, we're going to come back with a great sports story next week. So they came back with one Lance Armstrong. So I think it's called Lance. And it's basically his story, rise and fall of his career. And it's in two parts. So last week was the first part and the next week will be the ending of it.

Two things I find interesting about it. Armstrong is a really interesting guy in that he, it's him being interviewed. Everybody, he was on the cycling teams with everybody. around him, like real insight on that story. And I don't care about cycling, but it's still a fascinating. Was it a fascinating American triumph initially? Yeah. That turned into obviously a totally different tale later on.

Because he won the tour to France seven times. Was it seven? Seven times. Yeah. And so that, I mean, that was a huge record. And especially since Americans don't usually win that race because Americans don't usually care about cycling like Lance Armstrong did. Yeah.

At one point, the guys like, one of the people. people who was being interviewed. He's like, one of the things you learn about American cyclists in particular is they're all really weird. And he's like, you know, because the thing is, if you're a great athlete and you're in America and you go into cycling, like you, like it's a strange choice. Yeah, because nobody's paying attention to you, really. The great athletes go into basketball and baseball and all these other sports.

So if you pick cycling, you're just strange usually. And the only reason to anybody paid attention to Lance Armstrong was because he consistently won in a sport that Americans never. win. Or rarely. Right. Exactly. And something that made Americans actually care about the sport because it was fun to watch every other country who did care about it lose to us. That's why I liked it. Yeah. It was just fun to see that. And I mean, and I used to just defend him like to the ends of the earth. Yeah, he's, yeah. In France, he's using banned substances. Deodorant. that kind of stuff

and then it turns out no he's been doing steroids and blood doping in every manner you believed him even when the accusations came in for years and years yeah because he was so strong in his denial and you were you defended him if I remember right almost right up to the time where he admitted it I did yeah I did and that was literally

right up to the time when he admitted it And then it's like, wow, you just, okay. I remember when this happened. And it reminded me of how Hillary Clinton should have felt when Bill was like allowing her to go on television and say it's a right-wing conspiracy, right? Like, it's a right-wing conspiracy. It's got nothing to this. Oh, by the way, yeah, it was sleeping with her. Sorry, honey.

You know, wouldn't you feel so betrayed? And I think, like, I, watching you as a real defender and then him admitting it, like, it pisses you. I've spent my capital out there defending you. Yes. And look what you've done. Yes. So that part of it is really, I think, fascinating from just a level of the story was really good and well told. And he's just, he's an interesting storyteller.

You know, he's being very honest about it. Yeah, very honest about it. He was with Oprah, too. I mean, he did the Oprah interview shortly after maybe a year or two after it all came out. And that was really blunt. Yeah. And so he just, he just lets it out now. But I think even more.

than this, Pat, I would love to get your take on this. The documentary starts, first minute is, you know, they do those cool, like, set up things where they kind of give you a little insight of the story, but not give it away. And it starts with Lance Armstrong telling his, talking about his life today. When he goes out, he's at a restaurant or a bar,

and people start coming up and talk to him. He's a famous guy. And what do they say when they walk up to him? The things are not pleasant, okay? And he describes these interactions. And the way he describes them is basically to say, everyone comes up to him and says, F you to his face over and over and over and over again.

And he says, with no bleeps, the whole word FU, over. And in the first two minutes of this. On ESPN. He must say this 20 times in the first minute and a half or two minutes of this documentary. It's on ESPN, which is a, Disney-owned network

that is at 8 o'clock at night on Sunday on Sunday listing out constant streams of F-bombs with no edits and no one says anything. It's a strange choice for ESPN to just let that happen. Right. It's very strange.

Let's take a quick one minute break. I want to get your take on this, Pat, because the cultural part of this is really fascinating how far we've moved with no one noticing. Back in a second. So I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, went out to his ranch and he thinks he's going to have a good time, but he forgot about the rec tech

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I hear the voice of Jeffie in my head saying, Ah, word please. Because he gets upset when anyone says You shouldn't be constantly swearing Because the only three words he knows are F bombs And variations on the term. But like, I am, take away the fact of whether it's right or wrong for just a second.

I am fascinated that we are a culture that went through the Janet Jackson thing in the Super Bowl, right? I remember it being a massively big deal when South Park aired an unedited episode at midnight on Comedy Central, right? Not that long ago. I mean, within the last decade, okay? Yeah. When I know that like it's always sunny in Philadelphia as a show that I love, and it's on FX and they will occasionally let, you know, like, I'm not occasionally, a decent amount now. the S-swear, S-bomb. And that is out there.

They don't say the F word, though. I don't think so. They do, but they get pretty aggressive with a language, but it's always sending in Philadelphia. It's a show designed to be offensive for adults on an adult network. This is ESPN on Sunday at like 8 o'clock, unedited F-bombs in a constant stream. You watched The Last Dance on the edited version of it. And you could see how many swears there were.

No, you don't miss anything. There's no reason. There's no reason for it. But what I'm fascinated by is why this has happened with no cultural discussion. No. I know it's a pandemic. So like there's other things to focus on. But this has been,

this has just gone from zero to a hundred miles an hour in two seconds and nobody noticed. Like this is a, it's a Disney corporation is doing this. You're about the only person I've heard bring this up. Is that weird? It is weird. I mean, millions and millions and millions. of people watched this Jordan documentary.

I guess we're so desensitized to it now that they're just like, well, okay, that's how he talks. I guess this is how, yeah, this is how it happens now. We just, this. Yeah. Because no one's going to be surprised that athletes are swearing. No. But I would be surprised that they're just letting it go without any edits.

And all, the only thing you do is you get at the beginning of it that there's some language in this thing. Like there's a little, there's a little disclaimer at the beginning. Yeah, is there? Because it seems like the cultural norm. There's no FCC concerns here. This is cable. I'm not saying anyone should get involved in ban this language.

I'm just, I just find it odd that there has been this massive cultural shift. It is the fact that the Disney Corporation is saying, you know what, this is a good first two minutes of one of our, it's our one of our marquee products in their marquee time slot, the thing that's getting the most attention. Yep. And no one said, hey, hey, you know, what does the mouse say about this?

Right, like what, what's goofy saying about this? I mean, is goofy going to start just like, Gorge. Instead of God, it's just you I feel like it's

right around the corner I mean, I don't even want to be a, it's a small world would be very twisted experience, I think,

in this current Disney environment. I'm surprised no one's called them out. That is, I guess, my biggest surprise here.

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He just ordered five dozen of our cookies from my wife's cookie company, which is scrumptious cookie.com. Yes. If you'd like to order some for yourself. And we just opened this up to eight more states. So that's just to start. We're doing the West. Then we're going to do, I don't know where we.

go from here, but hopefully soon everything will be opened up. But scrumptious cookie.com if you'd like to get some delicious cookies. And you've opened up to factory in Wuhan, I understand. In Wuhan, yes. Congratulations. So you can get the COVID-19 chocolate chip cookie. It's delicious. It's worth it. I would say I would get COVID-19 to eat one of your wife's chocolate chip cookies.

They're delicious. That's he, so he ordered five dozen. So he ordered five dozen of them. This is after what, two or three dozen last week and a couple dozen the week before. So look for him to come back a little more visible than he's even been up until this point because there will be more of him to view. Does anyone else, is anyone else getting these cookies? Is it like for the house or is it just Glenn?

No, just Glenn. It's just cheap. He keeps him in like a bathroom cabinet and just as he sneaks in and eats a cookie every time he goes. I don't know, man. But he has been for sure our biggest client so far. In many ways. In many ways. In many ways.

Yes. Yeah, no, those are delicious. and I can understand that order. However, I will say this is very common. Maybe not with your cookies in particular, but people are just eating like there's no tomorrow. Because it's comforting, right? It is.

You just, I mean, things are so different. We've been turned upside down. And so you just want some kind of comfort and so you turn to food. Yeah. And I kept thinking to myself, you know, we used to go out, we would go out to eat. Maybe my wife would have a date night or whatever on the weekend.

We'd go out and have a nice dinner if we can. And we were saying. And we were saving that money for a while. And I thought to myself, you know, what I should do is spend that money on food that I can have shipped to me. So I was going on that gold belly. You ever use gold belly? That's one of those sites.

I haven't. It's not like a door dash or whatever? No, not exactly. So Uber Eats will deliver from restaurants around you, right? Yeah. DoorDash, or, excuse me, gold belly is like all of the best foods from all around the country. So it's almost like a national door dash in a way. So like if you want a New York pizza from the New York place, they will get it and they freeze it and send it to you and it comes directly from the place.

So the best, you know, cakes and cookies and you should get on there with their cookie company. For sure. Pies, everything. The famous ones. It is. It's on the expensive side for sure. Yeah. You know, because it's quick shipping.

Yeah. But like again, like if I'm going to, you know, if I'm going to spend a normal, I'll go to a normal restaurant around here that might be okay and you're going to spend what 30 bucks a poor? person or whatever, you can, if you're going to spend 30 bucks a person, you can get the best, you know, pizza or like, I ordered some place that I've sent lasagna. It was unbelievable. Like I was like, again, you know, you're heating, you're reheating it and stuff, but hey, why not? I'm in a quarantine. I might as well get the best food from around the country was my theory. I like that, though. That's a good idea.

It's also a great way to gain weight. Yes. Because then you get large portions of delicious food from around the country and you can just kind of just dive in whenever you want. And that's a really not a great thing for your physique. No. And my problem is, I'm the only one in my house doing that. So I'm becoming extremely extraordinarily large. I've outgrown the house now. I have to live in a separate. Oh, no.

Yeah, a separate domicile from the rest of my family because they're all doing healthier stuff. Oh, I hate those people. Oh, they're just, they make me sick. They make me sick. My wife is full-fledged vegetarian now for probably six or eight months. Wow. One of my sons has become a vegetarian, but only about three weeks worth, but he's doing really well, not eating meat for three weeks. And one of my daughters, also not eating meat.

And they're all on this health kick of vegetables every night. Sorry, I'm not joining you in that, quite clearly. Will you accept the vegetables on the side of your steak or no? No. Nope. Not even on the side. Nowhere on my plate. It is an interesting thing.

You know, I talked to the guy who is the CEO of Impost. possible foods, you know, the impossible burger. Yeah. And it was something that you guys taste tested on the air live with real meat and the impossible burger. And couldn't tell the difference. It couldn't tell the difference. In fact, I think you both said that the impossible burger was the real burger.

I think we did, yeah. Which was crazy. Was that in the Burger King test? No, that was the, it was another place. Oh, yeah, another, yeah, the higher end one. Yeah, the higher end one. And so I was talking to him. And it was interesting about him, I thought, was he is like, you know, look, he, he

wants to make a burger that people eat instead of meat. Like, his goal is to win that battle. But he wants to do it within capitalism. And he was talking about how what the great things that capitalism has accomplished and how he's not looking for government help. He's not going to shame anyone into eating it. And this guy's probably not conservative, right? Yeah, I don't know what his politics are.

He definitely was friendly to capitalism. Definitely, like, he said a couple of times, he said, you know, look, what we want from the government is for them to get out of of our way so we can do our thing. Nice. Like I love hearing that. Yeah. I don't even get that from Exxon anymore.

Right? I can't get a freaking company to say the free market does anything. And I'm getting it from the guy who's making, you know, vegetarian meat products. I can get it from him. But I can't get it from, you know, BP. Yeah. What happened? I don't understand.

They've all caved. They've all caved. They all act as if the free market is this evil thing. And here, you know, here's a guy who's saying, like, look, we want to win this battle because our product is not as good as meat. but better. We want people to like it more. You've got to love that attitude. That's a great attitude. I really liked hearing that. It was a really interesting conversation and I think he's, you like, you like the someone who's

going to, you know, he was a scientist and he left this to start this company. And he's built, I mean, I, you know, it is, as you know, as well. It tastes really, really good. And, you know, whether you like it, it's up to you. But I like that. He's like, you know, free choice. Like, the only way that this is going to happen, he brought up a great example of, in China, they, The Chinese government told their people to cut meat intake by, I think, like, 50%. He's like, you know, the Chinese government has some success level with convincing people to do things in their country. Like, I basically control it. And as he pointed out, like, they basically did nothing.

They didn't change their habits at all. He's like, if the Chinese government's threats won't stop you to change your habits, trying to convince people to not eat meat or say, hey, you know what, it's really good for the environment or whatever, is not going to change their habits. what's going to change their habits is if they like it more. Offer them a better alternative. Exactly. Brilliant.

Yeah. And he's like, you know, we can do, we're going to eventually get to the point where this is cheaper than, then meat that you're traditionally getting. We're not there yet. Eventually.

It's right. It's not there yet, but it's getting there. You know, that you'll like, he's like, it'll be healthier. You'll like it more.

Like, you know, again, it's his company. He's saying good things about it. But it was, I just loved the approach. The fact that he wasn't trying to shame us into it. He wasn't trying to say,

he even said, He's like, you know, I don't want a farm bill that helps our company. I want them out of our way. Wow. That's really refreshing. Yeah, it kind of is. He actually mentioned your taste test with you and Glenn on, he did a podcast. Have you heard of how I built this?

I think I have, yeah. It's one where they basically profile companies. And they actually mentioned, they mentioned Glenn in the middle of this and the taste test that you guys did. The guy, the CEO of the company saw the video. So, uh, wow. Here, listen to this clip. from how I built this from NPR. Just last year, you upgraded the recipe for the burger,

and then you began rolling it out at grocery stores, and then at Burger King, which introduced the Impossible Whopper that people went crazy for, and then Applebee's and White Castle and all these other chains started selling it, and people loved it. I mean, I think even like Glenn Beck, you know, people like who are, like, you would imagine,

would go after vegetarians are like, like they loved it right he was he was hilarious did you see that video yeah oh it's hilarious yeah yeah yeah Glenn Beck's like this is I eat this is great I can't tell the difference and you went from like just you know David Chang and a couple restaurants in 2016 to now it's they're everywhere and see the surprising thing there is that they've discovered that conservatives will like something if it's quality well yeah we don't care about the ideology give if if If it tastes as good or better than meat, I'll definitely eat it. It's just like we've been saying for years, give me an alternative to an SUV to gasoline-powered

engines that is viable all the time where I can, you know, I don't have to completely turn my life upside down to use it. Yeah. And we'll use it. That's what Elon Musk has tried to do, right? With Tesla. Yep. You know, we have one of the producers here at the Blaze who has installed the solar panels

and Tesla batteries in their house. And every month he sends me a text. He's like, check this out. It's just his electricity bill. It's like 10 cents. Like legitimately like 10 cents for the month. Provide an alternative. We'll use it.

He liked it. He likes it better. And it works great for him. I mean, it might not work if you're in some cloudy area. I don't know how, you know, like there's certain differences in different places, but he's in Texas. And it works great for him. He basically pays nothing for electricity now that he's paid for the system.

Wow. And so those things, I think that's how you win these battles. You don't win the battle by saying, well, you know, you're a bad person if you don't do the thing that I want. The same way, by the way, when we talk about the COVID thing that we're dealing with now, you're never going to win the battle by screaming at someone not wearing a mask in a grocery store. Like, if you believe the thing. That doesn't help the cause at all. Try to convince people, try to show them, you know, lead by example, be cool.

you know, talk to somebody about like why you think this is, you know, is the right thing. But if it's not, you know, you do your own thing. That sort of stuff is much more effective than screaming at people in a grocery store. That's insanity. Yet that's the left's approach to everything. Every one of these issues. You know what? You're a bad person if you use too much of electricity.

You're a bad person if you eat meat. You're a bad person if you don't wear a mask. You're bad. You're bad. You're bad. Well, I'm sorry. We see you. You're not that great.

You know, you can't, you know, I, I, If I read it, you know, in the Bible, I mean, people have a tough enough time listening to that. And that's the ultimate authority. I think I can listen to you because of your stupid Instagram comments? Because you've shamed me at a beach. Doesn't work on anybody, does it? No. That's why this approach from, what's his name?

The inventor of the Impossible Burger? Pat Brown. Pat Brown. Okay. Yeah. So that's why that's such a great approach. It's a great approach. Yeah.

Make a good product and people will just gravitate to, it. Yeah. I have a decent amount of people. As you know, I'm a vegetarian. I will say Glymbeck does come after vegetarians. Me.

Almost every day. Almost every day. But most people in my life don't, you know, don't, are idiots like me. And so they eat, they eat whatever they want.

No, she's not. But she loves that impossible burger, man. A lot of them, because, of course, I order it,

because I like it, they try it. And then they wind up just ordering it because they like it. Yeah. Right. So that's how you win. that's how you win that battle.

You're not going to win that battle by guilting people and putting scary videos on the internet. And, you know, that is not how that happens. I think it's a great, it was just, it was a nice approach to hear. It was nice to hear a freaking person in business. Say something good about the free market for once. And I'm sorry, what show was that part of? Oh, Stu does America.

Stu does America. Yes. Where would I find that? Well, you can go to YouTube, search for Stu. Okay. And I'll be the first one there and watch every episode for free or sign up on podcast. Fascinating. You should totally do that.

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Interesting article maybe we should talk about coming up is where does the government get the right to require vaccinations? Where does that come from? Or does it come from any place? Does the government have a right to mandate that you receive a vaccination if one becomes available for this virus? Or for anything. Or for anything. I don't think they do. I don't think so.

either. Not an anti-vaccine guy. Vaccinate me for everything. I'm all in. I get the flu thing every year. I have my kids. Do you? I'm full-leaf vaccinated. I'm not at all against them. I think the science is pretty good on it, frankly. However, the government forcing people to do things like this. It makes you not want to take it then, right? Even if you do it voluntarily. Screw you. I'll get sick all week. Like it does. You almost want to do it at a point of protest. We did a poll a couple of weeks ago. at Pat Unleashed on Twitter with my listeners of if a vaccine is developed and it becomes available but it's mandated will you take it? And 73% of people said no. 7327. Wow. No, I wouldn't take it. I think that's realistic? Is that real in a real world situation? It's hard to say because you're not in that situation. Yeah. Though I will say it seemed real. I think two people are at the point now where they feel like, all right, the worst is behind us. You know, we're now prepared a little

bit. We kind of understand this a little bit better. So I don't need the vaccine. Maybe, you know, like people don't. I mean, the flu vaccine is not near 100% effective, but a lot of people don't. It's only about half people take it. And a lot of that is because people think, well, it's the flu. I've thought that myself. There's been years I didn't get it. I was like, well, if I get the flu, I get the flu. Who cares? It's just the freaking flu. Exactly. And so I think if people are really scared about it, like, if we got to a situation, you know, this happened with the Spanish flu in 1918 or 191919 was much.

worse than 1918 and it got really ugly with a second wave if if the United States turned into a bunch of Manhattan's and we were all at that level of freaking out of holy crap like lots of people are dying it's really really ugly it doesn't feel like it like Manhattan in a lot of the country if it did I think you have a much different percentage on that people would be much more willing to to go for that that's probably true but right now I mean people are looking at it well you know it's so take my chances it's bad it's definitely bad. I mean, you know, I mean, look, we've, we've had a lot of people die over this, and it's going to be a lot more. I mean, we're still, even on good days, we're still losing seven,

800 people a day. Yeah. You know, the, the biggest cause of death in America is about 1,700 a day. So, you know, you look at it that way and it's like, it's, it's still, it's not pretty. No, it's significant. But we feel we've learned enough about it now to, to kind of maybe be able to stay out of its way. And if it doesn't feel like it's a huge flare-up, I think a lot of people will say no thanks. Yeah, I think so too. But we'll see. I mean, we might not even get a vaccine.

Who knows, that's not even a guarantee. You might have to, you know, we might have to brave this for a while without any chemical help. They seem really confident about it, but I... Yeah, they do. I guess it's just everyone coming together to try to do the same thing at the same time. They think they're going to solve it, but, I mean, they've never solved anything in 18 months like this. Never. It's never happened.

Although this feels like, you know, when they say they've got a Manhattan project going. Yeah. This is the Glenn Beck program. With Pat and Stu for Glenn this week. Some amazing things that we just heard about in the four-minute buzz from Hillary just a few minutes ago. Wow. I mean, first of all, the fact that the CDC has revised their mortality rate on COVID-19 from about, three or four percent ish where they were saying it was 10 times what it would be 10 to 50

times or something more dangerous death rate wise than the influenza now they've revised that from three or four percent to point four percent death rate with COVID-19 which I think is about you know I did a show on this and I think in February because Trump was getting beat up about him saying, I think it's going to be less than 1%. I think we're going to find out it's going to be less than 1%.

And he's getting hammered. Like, no, the World Health Organization says 3.4%. It's like, no, that's not what they said. When you looked at what they said, including all the scientists on this, they all were saying, we're not picking up millions and millions of cases.

We don't think it's going to be anywhere near where it is now. But that takes time for it to come down where you understand how far it spread. People can speculate. You know, that's what happens. It's just a very much unknown factor of a new virus. Like very much known.

Trump was completely right on this. All of his experts were saying it too, by the way. But the media said, no, look at this report from the World Health Organization, who is really just reporting the current rate. You know, like we only have discovered, you know, for every 100 cases we've discovered, three people are dying, right? Well, there's a lot of cases they're not discovering. It might be three out of a thousand.

that still would be worse than the flu, but it's a totally different scenario to prepare for, obviously. And we probably first got a really good look at that from that Stanford study where they looked into Marin County and how many people had the antibodies as opposed to how many people had the virus and the estimates and all that. It was 50 to 85 times higher the number of people who were actually infected, which lowered the mortality rate by, you know, a factor of 10 or 100. Yeah.

And look, you know, I've thought for, I've said on the air a bunch of, of times I think I actually said 0.4 is what I think it's going to end up at. And the Lancet said 0.66, you know, the initial, the princess, the island princess ship, which is a really good look at this because it's isolated. Like there's no, you know where every case is, right? That turned out at a 0.8 mortality rate. However, you know, because it's a cruise, more, more older people, there's reasons why it was a little higher. But it was a good sense to make sure that it was going to be, good sense that it was going to figure, you know, wind up being less than 1%.

The other part of this, though, is when you talk about that study, which does show that the fatality rate is going to be less, this idea that we're somewhat close to herd immunity is, I mean, it does not seem to be being proved out at all. I mean, like, even the study you're talking about,

which did say, you know, it was 50 times as many people thought had it than they had tests for, also said the high number of people in the county was 5.6%. It was like 2.8 to 5.6% was their range of people who had had it already. So we're not, I mean,

the highest number anywhere in the country was New York City, which was 19.9%. So we're nowhere near. They think it's like 4% of the country has had this so far, something like that, which is still a huge number

and does lower the mortality rate considerably. But it is not something where we are like, oh, well, 80% of people have had it, so we're going to be fine. no one else. Which you kind of wish it were that way. Yeah, that's what you want. It's one of those things where I wish I had that disease.

It's a weird thing to say. Yeah. But I know we've had people here who've done the antibody tests, which are now much more widely available than they were previously. And you go in there rooting for the idea that you actually had COVID-19. Yes. Because now you survived it. It would be over.

And now you can go do whatever you want in theory because of the immunity, which does seem to be proved out. That's another piece of good news we had last week. That you do have some immunity. It does. They don't know how much. They don't know for how long. Yeah.

But most of that has been speculation. I mean, I've heard Fauci say this in his testimony where he says, we do believe it will give you immunity, but we don't, we haven't, we don't have the final, you know, confirmed test results of that yet. We believe it because we've watched every other virus and how it acts. So we believe it's going to react the same way. But we don't have it confirmed yet. The first confirmations really started trickling in last week where they found there is some level

of immunity for some. some time. It just depends on how long that is and what does that mean? Like, immunity doesn't always mean you don't get it. A lot of times it means it's just a lot more manageable. Like, you might get it. You might get a milder case of it. It might be much more mild and it's not that big of a deal. Either one of those is a good outcome. Yeah. You know, we just don't want, I mean, I've had enough of this thing. I want it out of my face. You know, I really do. I would love to move on to something else. And but I mean, this week, maybe even today, we're going to hit 100,000 deaths.

And when that happens, you're going to get parades from the mainstream media. They're going to do ticker tape parades. Yes. That sounds irresponsible. Dancing elephants. Really? I mean, yes. Tickert tape.

Lion trainers. It's all of it. The whole circus is going to be brought out for us when it hits 100,000. Can you, I mean, they love to talk about the amount of death. that there have been because then they pin it all back to Donald Trump and blame it on him. Obviously ridiculous. Of course that's what they're going to do. I don't know if the American people are going to do that.

No. No, the mainstream media will do that. So many people have their minds made up on Trump and it does seem that the people who hate him are blaming him for everything. People who love him are blaming him for nothing. And, you know, so I think there's, you know, I don't think the response has been perfect from anybody. You know, governors, you know, the president, the CDC, I think has had. major missteps throughout this. Yeah, huge. But that being said,

it's a friggin, it's a difficult situation to deal with. It is. You know, I mean, it's not easy. But then you got people blatantly removing the blame from themselves and then placing it on the president like Andrew Cuomo. Oh, he's the worst. And he's the worst of the bunch. He's trying to depoliticize it by saying that he was following the federal guidelines from the

Trump administration. No, he signed an executive order that sent COVID-19. patients to nursing homes. Guaranteed they would be admitted with COVID-19, COVID-19 positive. And also, the other part of that,

which doesn't get as much attention, is that he prohibited nursing homes from testing patients for COVID-19 if they weren't showing symptoms. So, like, if you wanted to say, okay, we're bringing in five new people, let's make sure they don't have COVID before we, you know, get them started here, right?

Totally sensible thing, responsible thing to do. And they said, you can't do that. You're prohibited from doing it. You couldn't have done a worse job if you were trying to kill people. Well, I honestly asked you this question. If you were to design a policy, which had a goal of killing as many people in nursing homes as you could. Which was $5,000, by the way. And it's much more than that, by the way.

Yeah, probably more. It's $5,000 confirmed, but they are not, they did this thing where they were taking people who were in nursing homes, got sick, went to the hospital, died of the hospital. They weren't counting them as nursing home deaths. Oh, wow. Which is infuriating. Oh, wow. I mean, so it's probably at least another 5,000

because they're probably around like everywhere else is. It's about 40, between 40 and 60% of deaths throughout states are from nursing homes. It's a big part of this, the biggest part of this. And, you know, he, if you were to design a policy, we're like, you know what, these old people are a real problem. They're draining our resources. You know, they've already done that whole, you know,

soil, like green thing, so we can't really go down that road. What should we do? Would you change a bit of Andrew Cuomo's strategy if that was your goal? No. You would say, you know what, don't test people coming in. Not right. You know, and if they have it, make them go back inside the nursing home. That should kill all the old people. Absolutely bizarre.

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Visit blinds.com to take advantage of their huge Memorial Day savings. Rules and restrictions may apply. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program, Triple-8-727B-E-C. On the campaign front, looks like President Trump has outspent Joe Biden by, I don't know, three to one or so during the COVID-19 thing. He spent $21 million, I think, during this.

pandemic. Biden has spent about $8 million. But I haven't seen either one of their ads. Have you seen many campaign ads? Maybe they're just not running in Texas. But I haven't seen them on the national network shows either. I don't think they've run on a lot of TV ads. I think it's been mostly digital.

I don't think there's been a lot of those ads. I mean, Biden technically has not wrapped up the nomination. A lot of his voters don't think he's going to wind up holding onto it with all of his controversies going on right now. I mean, when you go on TV and you're like, well, you ain't black if you don't vote for me. And that's not even fair.

He didn't even say that. He said, you ain't black if you consider not voting for me. It's actually worse than the way it's being presented. Yeah, but because he's Joe Biden, I just Joe be a Joe, don't worry about it. Yeah. That's basically what. Can you imagine if this would have been Donald Trump? They'd be tearing him limb from limb still today.

It would lead every single newscast. on cable news and network news. And they went right into, you know, reputation repair mode for Biden all weekend. Immediately. Here's a quick sampling of some of what they had to say in the mainstream media about Biden's gaffe. You know, I'm a little revved up, okay?

Because this is a distraction. Vice President Biden spoke to his comments on the breakfast club. He apologized. He clarified. He said he shouldn't have been so cavalier. But we need to move on and talk about the issues and what's really a safe here. Vice President shouldn't have said it. He apologized for it.

But I really think the goal and the nerve of President Trump. I believe that Joe Biden was incorrect in saying the statement, you ain't black. But I also believe that his apology was sufficient. That apology was given swiftly. He was saying, I'm sorry. I was being to Cavalier. I apologize. To his credit.

To his credit. within minutes that he had gotten here in way i think uh he has apologized and he should have apologized it was like you know one of those jokes that just falls flat there's almost the end of the interview and you need to understand the context i mean biden made an error he apologized for it yeah fine yeah just move on i mean we can obsess on this but this is in the scheme of things this is not going this not the mountain dittily squire uh of course it usually doesn't does it you know i wonder why When you have the entire media making nonstop excuses for these comments, they don't seem to turn into much. Wow.

It's a really amazing thing that goes on. Is it? Yeah. It's like when he said this. I mean, you got the first sort of mainstream African American. Right. Who is articulate and bright and clean and nice looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man.

It just doesn't happen. It's a story book, man. Yeah. Yeah, remember, he kind of. skated through that one too. It's amazing when you're a Democrat. How much you can get away with racially. Yeah, pretty much everything.

Everything. There's no real criticism of you. I did a thing on Stu Does America on Friday asking the question is, is Joe Biden a racist? And we just went through, just went through, you know, what he's been saying over the years. And whether that would typically be considered racist. and man, you know, there's a lot there, Pat. There is a lot there when it comes to Joe Biden. When you talk about, you know, the storybook thing that you played there, you know,

what is the definition of storybook? I mean, it's like, you know, it's like a fairy tale. It's like, it's a children's story of magical beings. That's what a clean, a clean, articulate, good-looking African-American is to Joe Biden. And articulate is defined as speaking coherently. So he thinks it's like a magical, being that a black person could speak coherently and we didn't even like

it was like just off no one even noticed it not even a thing not even a thing you know the guy we know about his comments about Indian Americans in Delaware the largest growth in population is Indian Americans

moving from India you cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts no right a slight Indian accent I'm not joking and he's not joking he's being seriously racist. I'm not joking about being racist. I'm being seriously racist right here.

Yeah, thank you, Joe, for that clear. Thank you. Because we believe you. We were doubting what you were saying. You know, so he's, I mean, he was, of course, we remember what he, the whole busing thing with Kamala Harris during the debate. He said he was, that was led into by the fact that he worked with James O. Eastland. And he, it was, he never called me boy. He always called me son. Well, guess what? At least there was some civility. That was what started that controversy. Well, civility, this is what Eastland was famous for. Quotes like this.

I have no prejudice in my heart, but the white race is the superior race. I'm just going to go out and say, I think you do. Have a little bit of this in your heart. Then you have he called, some of these are so amazing. His campaign accused the South Carolina Black Caucus chairman of being purchased. by Tom Steyer during this past campaign, not long, not long ago. He was accused of being xenophobic about talking about China. Cory Booker beat him up about his racial stuff during the debates.

He then he did the thing where he said, white children are different than poor children. Remember that one? Yes. That was always a classic. He said, he said, kids. of black parents weren't doing as well

because their parents basically didn't know how to parent. You remember this one? Where he said, what we need is we need to have people from the government come in and teach these people how to do their thing

because we need to have the record player on so they hear lots of words. Do you remember that? Chiquette made no sense. But that was Joe Biden. Oh, man. He had the corn pop story. If you remember the corn pop story,

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or Supreme Court justice would be a sexist. Would that be something? Because I think you would say yes if I said women. Yes. Would you say men? If you eliminated one of the two sexes? Then yes. Okay.

I would say yes. Now think of our society in the way we throw the word racism around, especially from the people that you just heard in that exact montage. We just played the same people. Here's what Joe. Biden said about segregation.

He said segregation was a matter of black pride. And he said that integration would prevent black people from embracing their own identity. Can't do it because... But that's okay. You should know that that's okay. Wow. He did, I will say,

when he was having this struggle, he decided to ask the quote, blacks on my staff about whether he had something in him that was deep-seated and he didn't realize. So, I mean, he's a very thoughtful person. He asked all the blacks on a staff, Pat. You know, what's he supposed to do? And he was very, very, very clear about how open to the other races he was when he bragged to the Washington Post, quote, I still walk down the street in the black side of town. No. So that's nice of him. Yeah, it is. He'll walk down the street among

black people? That risk. That's a, it's almost, he's almost too progressive. on this issue, Pat. Almost too progressive. These are all real quotes. And we left out, I mean, there's tons. We did this on Stude as America on Friday. If you want to go back and check it out. You watched on YouTube.

Just search for Stu. It'll be the first show there. But like, you go back and watch this quote after quote for quote. Video, audio. He has a, you could say that the society has become too sensitive to racial allegations, right? I think that's a very legitimate point in many circumstances. However, the people voting for Joe Biden, the people defending Joe Biden, are the people who created that environment. And if you apply that environment to Joe Biden, he should not only not be president.

He shouldn't have a job. He shouldn't be allowed out of his home. He has more racist, quote unquote, clips. And I don't know. Is Joe Biden racist? I don't know. I mean, you know, I tend to think that the left throws that around in really reckless ways at times. You have to look at, I do think you should look at the context of the moment.

You know, some of these things were said at times where other people were saying similar things and blah, blah, blah. But he's way over the line as to what they would accept from anybody else. I'll tell you that. There's no question. Stay close to it. Yeah. And what he did on Friday with Charlemagne is inexplicable that they're accepting that. It's nowhere near the line that they've established.

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and the fact that he is quite possibly race. insist. But it was nice to see over the weekend, you know, he keeps complaining about people not paying their taxes, and in particular, Amazon, which everybody is whining about because the theory goes, Amazon paid zero taxes last year. They didn't pay any taxes last year? Seems difficult to pull off, even if you're Amazon. It seems like everybody in the company should be arrested, or at least the company's CFO, maybe. And that's certainly the message you're supposed to take from the comment.

Right. They want you to think that. But instead, Amazon has fought back a little bit, which is great. Because, well, here is the comment from Biden. I've said it before and I'll say it again. No company. Pulling in billions of dollars in profits should pay a lower tax rate than firefighters and teachers. It's time for Amazon to pay its fair share.

Okay. They're not paying a lower rate than firefighters and teachers. I mean, that's ludicrous. So here's what they paid in taxes last year. More than $1 billion in federal income tax. A billion dollars. That seems like a lot of money. More than $2.4 billion in other federal taxes.

So now you're at $3.4 billion payroll in customs duties. More than $1.6 billion in state and local taxes. So now you're at $5 billion. And then you can add on another $9 billion in sales tax and use tax. But that, I mean, I don't know that that qualifies because everybody pays those. Yeah. So, but you got $5 billion in taxes that Amazon paid last year. That's a far cry from zero.

It is a far cry from zero. You're right. And they pay the, by the way, you know, they pay the normal rate as assigned by the government. Yes, which is why they're saying, okay, if you got a problem with how much we paid, change the tax code. Yeah. because we paid all of our tax bills. Everything we had to do, we paid. That's what everybody does, by the way.

That's what you have to do. You have no choice but to do it. The interesting thing with Amazon is, like, they haven't been immense, their huge company and they make lots of money, but, you know, they came out of the internet world and were not profitable for a very long time. So at some point, I mean,

they always had to pay payroll tax, though. That's got nothing to do with profit per se. But like, you go back and you say, okay, well, were they profitable? You know, for a long time, they weren't. So they probably weren't paying a lot of income taxes. but that's the same, that's the same for anybody. Anybody who starts a company is going to,

is going to face that same thing. You know, when you, when you, especially when you're starting out and trying to grow, you're spending a lot more money to build, you know, new places and, you know, design new technology and all the things that Amazon has done, you know, like they didn't pay tax, tons as much taxes you'd think, at least for a while.

They certainly paid something. But they didn't pay for a while. I mean, now they're at the position where they're paying a lot. I mean, billions and billions of dollars. What are they supposed to do? They follow the law. I guess they're supposed to say, well, you know what? We made a lot of money.

Let's pay more in taxes. Let's pay more than we need to pay just because, darn it, we love the government. Let's fund them to a greater extent. Nobody's going to do that. Is Joe Biden doing that? Even Bernie Sanders, when asked, said, no, I don't pay more than I'm asked to pay. Right. The minimum amount possible.

He takes, you know, Bernie was asked about this during the campaign. He said he admitted to taking all of the deductions from Trump's tax cut. Yeah. From Trump's tax cut. You didn't have to. You could still pay more if you wanted to. Absolutely. You can always send there's an address.

It says gifts to the federal government. There's an address in Washington. You can send checks there whenever you want. It's strange. You know how many people we had this statistic? I can't remember what year it was. But it was about this time of year where everybody's complaining about how little rich people to pay in taxes and then they need to pay more. and somebody looked into who actually did pay more.

How many people actually put money on that line and said, yeah, I've got a gift for the federal government. There was one person in the United States of America who did that. One. I forget who it was. I don't think it was anybody that was famous necessarily, but one person paid more than they needed to. I kind of want to do it just to get it.

It was me. It was me. Yeah, it was. I was thinking about that. would actually be a funny thing to do just to be the one guy who did it. And to be able to say that on the air all the time. Yeah. Well, I did that. I paid more than I needed to. And then when they say, you know what, you were just a hateful conservative who just wants to cut money for the poor. And I could say, actually, I donate money to the federal government on top of what I have to pay in taxes.

Just to end that argument. Yeah, just to have the point. Yeah. I mean, it's worth a dollar. Just send one dollar to the federal government just so you get to say that every time. That would be fun. I might do that. I mean, of course, what they're going to do is wasted. But still, they would still be, it's only a dollar. At least you paid more than you had to. Yeah. I like that.

What are taxes due? Is it July? Yeah. Last I heard it was July 15th. July 15th. And then there was talk that they might push that back to the, to after the election. But I haven't heard any more talk about that. That was a while ago.

You know what if you never made them do? What do you think of that idea? Let's toss that one out. Let's toss that around a little bit. What if there were never taxes do again? If it's good for these few months, why wouldn't it be good later? It's a strong question.

No one has an answer to that one, Pat. I certainly don't. I certainly don't. By the way, looking at the Amazon profit numbers, they were still basically not profitable as of 2018. I mean, they were what? Yeah, their profit was basically nothing until really, the fourth quarter of 2017, probably to be fair, is they made $2 billion in profit in that quarter.

But before that, you know, they were spending so much. Wow, that's kind of hard to believe. It is. That's that long. I know. All the way to 2018. That seems like a poorly run company when you... I mean, look at that.

They own the world pretty much. Right. Their sales in, like, for example, in 2014 was their quarter for, they made $60 billion in sales, but only one billion in profit. Wow. Now, 60 billion in sales is a lot. Yeah. However, they were basically breaking even from the start of their company up until 2018.

I mean, they weren't making a lot of profit. And they were able to get some money through, you know, everyone has, everyone works the system to their best of their ability. And if you're thinking to yourself, well, I can either pay taxes, I can pay 30% to the government right now. Or I can take that 30% and invest it into. a new factory and increase my sales and then I'm not paying taxes on that money. Well, it makes sense to grow. It's the reason why it exists is to incentivize companies like Amazon to not just sit on a bunch of cash instead reinvest it into communities and growing their business.

You're incentivizing companies to say, I'd rather spend it on something that will benefit me than just hand it to the government. So, like, that's why the rules are set up that way. So that companies will spend their money on trying on research and development and growth and and these other things to try to grow the economy. We're trying to incentivize growth of the economy. Everybody who's a business owner understands that. And you know who else understands it?

Every single person outside of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who makes the criticism. Obviously, AOC doesn't understand anything that she says, so she would not qualify for this category. But everybody else who makes this comment understands why these rules are set up this way. They're set up this way to incentivize businesses to hire people, to build new companies

that construction workers are going to go work. on to make the economy flow better and better every day. Now, obviously, AOC and our economics degree, you're not going to grasp that, but everybody else who's saying it is just lying. No. And you criticize a company that you've got to believe they use all the time. Even though Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has to use Amazon a lot. We all do.

I mean, especially through this quarantine. Oh, man. They made this big deal about, you know, is Jeff Bezos going to be the first? Trillionaire. Did you follow this at all? Yeah, in 2026. They think he'll be a trillion. Now, if you look at this study, first of all, all they're doing is just projecting his annual growth over the amount of money he has for six years, like as if it's always constant, right? Like, that's not how this works at all. But he has like 180 billion or something, right? It's nowhere near a trillionaire at this point. But stepping back from that, can you imagine going through this

quarantine without Amazon? Just think, if we just took that out of our society right now, going through everything got delivered. You could basically rely on it on time, especially if it was an essential thing. It was there very, very much on time. It was nonstop boxes being delivered to your door so you didn't have to go out. You were able to stay home and not go buy those things.

That's why I have no quarrel with Amazon at all. He should be the first trillionaire, honestly. He should be. He should be worth $140 or $180 billion or whatever he's worth because he came up with a company that we can't even imagine life without now. And he did it from his garage. He and his wife started that business in their garage, then moved across the country, based it in the West,

and built it into this, something that we can't imagine being without. I mean, I remember when Amazon first started being really prevalent, and I would think, who's going to buy stuff online? Nobody's going to do that. It was just a bookstore. Yeah. Yes. It's just a bookstore at the beginning.

It was like a place you go buy books. And it's turned into basically everything that you need for every situation. Yep. And by the way, you know, people are like, oh, well, Amazon is taking money away from from smaller companies. And some of that is a fair question to ask, you know, society, you know, how much of that do you want to happen? But you have to remember, too, it's also almost 100% of the sales of thousands and

thousands of companies through their third party selling. and, you know, companies go, you know, all these companies that you're buying stuff on Amazon are all companies making them somewhere, right? Like they are, you know, Bob's company makes something, puts it on Amazon to sell and you buy it through Amazon. Like you can make an argument that's an evil, you know, Amazon situation, but it's helping that company. You know, like companies like Etsy and eBay, these big brand names are helping small business owners too all around the world. You know, it's just easy. It's a typical criticism. of capitalism, right? Where the, when you get, you pick the big guy who's the richest guy, used to be Gates. Now he's not the richest guy anymore. Now it's Bezos. And you pick the Bezos because he's, you know, I don't agree with Bezos, his politics or anything like that.

But the bottom line is he's built an amazing company. You're right from absolutely nothing. And he's turned it into something that is really tough to, it's tough to understand where we'd be without it, honestly. It really is. I mean, obviously other companies sell stuff online. and we would figure it out. But I mean, this has been an amazing achievement.

I mean, I don't know how we deal without Amazon Prime Video, alone the entire company. I know. And all they do is get bashed. You know, AOC comes down and says, we don't want your factory in our state. Like, okay, well, they'll go somewhere else and bring all those jobs somewhere else. Good job, AOC.

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marvel at Amazon and what they've done during the break. Apparently, Stu, you're of the belief that Amazon Cloud is their biggest money-making enterprise? Amazon Web Services. It's not the biggest part of their revenue.

I think it's the biggest most profitable part of the company. But listen to these. These are growth numbers for a quarter. 43%. This is 2017. 43% in Amazon Web Services growth, then 42%, 42, 45, 49, 49, 48, 45, 41, 37, 35, 34 per quarter we're talking about. Wow. And that's amazing.

I mean, and, you know, one of the things that's amazing about, you look at, you look back at the history of like of capitalism, how much failure is a part of the model where, you know, I was reading this, when I was reading Matt Ridley's book, it's called How Innovation Works. it's out now. It's really good. But he's talking about this and he's talking about how the trial and error process is how all these things happen. All these great innovations happen in our world. And it hit me for the first time that at no point in the phrase does it say you succeed. It's just trying something and failing. Like trial and error. Trial and error. At some point, I hope you get to success in theory. But with Amazon, we look at Amazon and say, we'd say Amazon's the gold standard of web companies, right? Like you have Amazon, even though they started as a book company and have changed a million times,

you'd say, if you were to say, like, what's the success story of Amazon, you'd say, or of the web, you'd say Amazon probably.

If I were to say, what's the failure, what's that when you think of the cataclysmic, frontline failure of a website from the dot com bust, Pets.com. Pets.com.

It's exact same one I came up with. Did you know Amazon invested in Pets. No. They were actually a giant investor. They failed so many times. Wow. Pets.com was a good idea. And here they are as the ultimate sign of success.

It's crazy how that happens. And I think that's one of my pieces of optimism when it comes to a treatment or a vaccine or something with COVID-19. When we have that Manhattan project sort of ideal, when everyone in the world and everyone in this country is looking at trying to solve the same problem at the same time, you saw what happened when we really ramped testing up. when the CDC wasn't in the way and we were able to like have private labs go after it we were able to jack that up in huge ways and that's only increasing antibody tests have done a lot of the same thing

when we're all focused on something like this and capitalism has a role you see it go crazy you know and I think that's the part of me that's optimistic it's just a tough process some of it you can't shorten the time but like you said when you have some of the biggest money makers in the world combined with some of the best minds

in the world and scientists and the world of medicine. You can't help but think, well, yeah, they're going to come up with something soon. Yeah. They've got to. It does feel that way. And then there's others who think, well, Bill Gates is involved. So obviously there's he's trying to kill people. Well, we get that.

You do have that. You do have a lot of that. I will say, though, it's like, I thought, and not everybody thinks of it this way, but what an incredible comment on God, right? Like here is, every smart person in the world is trying to solve this problem. And what does our immune system do? If you get it, it just creates antibodies and then you don't

get in anymore. Like it just immediately comes up with this thing to fight it. And there's like millions of scientists trying to figure out how can we do that exact same thing that the body already does? Pretty amazing. It is pretty amazing. But I, you know, you have optimism. It's just, you know, it's, it's, it's a, it could be an ugly road. It's already been an ugly road. I mean, 38 million people are unemployed. It's been an ugly road. I just hope we can turn this around fast. All right. Much more tomorrow. We'll, uh, see you then.