The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | 11/12/25

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:15 Help us push this podcast to the top. Rate, review, share. Together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now let's get to work. You're listening to The Best of the Glenn. Hello, Glenn. I never would have called this show if I didn't have a dream about.
Starting point is 00:02:43 speaking to you last night on the phone. So I thought that was a prompting. I'm sure Steve will tell you that. You're dreaming about Glenn. Things aren't going well. Wow. I mean, you got to raise your standards there. My wife doesn't even dream about me.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Yeah. Well, now, here's a call. I better jump on us. So what we talked about in the phone call was George Washington. I'm actually writing my PhD dissertation on George Washington. And I never had a mixture of excitement and heartbreak when I heard about George AI because I was so thrilled about it, but then I was heartbroken that I wasn't involved in it. And so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I'm just calling about that because I don't know. When you're dreaming about Glenn Beck and the phone call, you know, I said he's jumped on it. Well, okay, so Paul, you're getting your Ph.D. in history and specifically with George Washington, or just that's your final paper? My focus is early American history. My dissertation is on George Washington. That is fabulous. And what did you come away thinking about George Washington, learning about George Washington?
Starting point is 00:03:52 Well, I grew up in Pittsburgh. So Washington is all over the Pittsburgh area because of the French Indian War. And you kind of wonder how much of it is legend and how much of it is true. And then the more you look into it, you realize these things weren't written about him after or during the revolution to, you know, pump him up. these things that's written minutes or weeks after it happened. We're pastors like Samuel Davies is writing after the Battle of Mangaela. This man might be being saved for our future purpose. And that's stuff that's happening 20 years before the revolution.
Starting point is 00:04:27 The more you know, the more odds by it. It is. Isn't it amazing? You look at George Washington and I can't believe we lie about it. his teeth, we lie about the cherry tree. When he is the most honest, forthright, and
Starting point is 00:04:50 heroic guy, I think in all of American history, I mean, he is one of a kind, and we lie about him, and we don't talk about all the things that happen that are absolutely real and just confounding miraculously.
Starting point is 00:05:07 The miraculous is a correct term. It's shocking. When you think of all of the incidents where his life, I mean, you had Celine Zeta on a couple months ago, and she was talking about the incident in Butler where he was shot at when he was 21 years old. A bullet flies in between him and a guide inches away. I mean, it's not just American history that's altered if he dies before the war. Everything. World history is altered.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah, I know. So what is the worst thing you could find about George Washington? I could only find that his mother said that he ate a lot of violence. ice cream and it was too extravagant. His mother's not a good judge's character. I mean, she's not the death. Not at all. No.
Starting point is 00:05:47 You know, more you learn about her, the more I think George Washington's mom, oh, yes, oh, probably sounded a little like that. You know what I mean? She's just, she's not a likable person. Yeah. It's probably why he went on an adventure so early just to get out of the house. She kind of chased him out. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yes. what's the worst thing you learned about him? I don't know. It's hard to, when you, it's hard to find the dark when the light is so bright with him. I know. Are you aware that one of the reasons that he, ended slavery,
Starting point is 00:06:27 I mean, ended his own personal slavery was a dream that he had. That he was being, not aware of that. White first dream. And he, he told her, I'm rewriting the will.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And that's when he's on his deathbed. He brings up the two wills. and he brings out the new will that he wrote that frees the slaves after he had this dream. Where did you get? What source is that? That is in a book called Imperfect God. I have to tell you, have you seen original sources on it? I mean, is it quoting where it's coming from? Yeah, it does quote.
Starting point is 00:07:04 It does quote where it's out. I mean, I have the book on my desk here, but I don't know where it's from. Yeah. So, Paul, you know, I would really love to get your information, put him on hold and get his information. And he should go over to, I mean, he had a dream. I mean, we should at least pursue this to see if there's anything there. Seeing that we're building George A.I. And that's what you're all about. You know, it is, if you can get through college and you want to learn history, I don't know. how, you know, it don't know how Paul did it and made it with his, with his brain, not just jello, you know? Because when you go, this is the difference between, look, George AI is not going to be,
Starting point is 00:07:54 it's not going to be complete for a long time. It has, there's just too much in there. But it is going to be a, a doorway into learning about the founders. their own words with the founding documents, you know? When you go to a university or you learn from history in class, you're, you're, you're trained to quote the interpreters of history, not understand the originators. Instead of, instead of reading Madison, you're standing there and you're sitting there and you're listening to a teacher or a professor trying to explain what Madison really meant. Well, why don't I just go to Madison? I don't want the modern context. I want it in his
Starting point is 00:08:42 writings. Can you imagine a hundred years from now? Trump's, Trump in the history books, how do you think that guy's going to be remembered with historians? How are they going to get, we can't even, half the country doesn't even know who he is. Half the country. And they're watching him in real time. What's the difference? They're not actually watching or listening. They're listening to the interpreters. If you actually listen to him, if you actually watch him, you learn that's a completely different guy.
Starting point is 00:09:22 There's a show going on and there's things that he does that I don't necessarily like, but that's not who he is. That's not what he's doing. That's why first sources are so important. You know, you're not, you're not, you're not learning the interpretation. When you read about Washington and the farewell address and Lincoln's second inaugural, you see, you see men who believed that truth existed outside of them, moral and divine, and it was, it was outside of them. universities are also teaching that, you know, I don't know, truth is in you.
Starting point is 00:10:12 It's your truth. No, no. Real truth is outside of me. I don't know how Paul made it through without hating America, you know? Because usually you're taught that the founders were hypocrites and you're not reading the original sources. When you read the Federalist papers, when you actually, actually read the words of Frederick Douglass, not the interpretation of Frederick Doug, but you read the words of Frederick Douglass. You see a guy who's really struggling, trying to figure it out, not a perfect guy.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Same with Lincoln, not perfect. Same with the founders. Not perfect. They're really struggling. And that's not even understood, I don't think, in today's world. The struggle for truth, the struggle for thinking, you're not taught to critically think anymore. You know, you're, you're conform, conform, conform, write this down, kids, it'll be on the test.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Parroting is what they want. You decide to go your own way. You decide to dissent and go, no, I don't think that's what it meant. Good luck in that grade. And I think also universities, when you're learning history, I mean, look, if you want to be a teacher, you've got to go to university, you've got to get the ticket. But boy, I don't know how you do it.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I don't know how you do it. Because one of the things that happens is they strip you of awe. They strip you of the awe. He still had the awe of George Washington. He still was holding on to. No, you don't have any idea. He's on the battlefield of Butler, Pennsylvania. And bullets are whizzing by him.
Starting point is 00:12:19 He walks off the battlefield and he's got holes in his coat, but he's fine. There's an awe to that. How did that happen? How can this guy ride? He's like six, four. The average man is five, six. He's six four. And he, so he's a giant of a man.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And he's riding these big white stallions. And he's going right up to the front. And he's never wounded. He's never hit. People say over and over again, I had him in my sights. I had him. Dead to rights. I pull the trigger.
Starting point is 00:12:53 He doesn't fall. It misses him. I mean, there's. some awe to that. And it's for you to figure out. These are the kinds of things I hope we are going to be teaching through my AI project. It's the torch debuts in January. And I have used it.
Starting point is 00:13:17 It's still in beta testing. I mean, we have, I'm a little nervous. I'm a little nervous because we're building something that nobody has built before. and I just want it to be just right for you. I want you to be able to, you know, one of the first things, I'll give you address sometime, maybe today, probably tomorrow. I'll give you an address where you can write your questions. You would say, Glenn, this is what I want to learn from the torch.
Starting point is 00:13:45 These are the questions I would have for the founders. I really want to understand civics or I need to learn the Bill of Rights. And, you know, how did that happen? Whatever it is you want to learn about especially founding, the founding of the country. And then anything you want to learn about in the news, I'm going to give you an address tomorrow. And I want you to write to me and tell me. So we can make sure that we have these things really ready for you in January. Because I think we, you know, the pressure is on to get moving here.
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Starting point is 00:15:45 Taking your phone calls. Let's go to Anthony in Georgia. Hello, Anthony. Welcome. Hey, Glenn. First of all, I just wanted to say, I'm a Democrat, and I've been listening for almost 10 years, if you can believe that. Wow. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah. You're not allowed to listen. Wait, wait, wait. How many days do you, how many days are you, I mean, you're into S&M? I don't know. I mean, how many days do you just shake your head and go, my God, I can't, what am I doing this for? It's every day, Gordon. It's every day, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:16 All right. Do we agree on anything? We agree on a few things. I'm not going to say that it's complete disagreement, but a lot of times I end up pulling my hair. Okay. Is there a quite, I'm just one more question. I'm sorry, I know you're the one calling in, but I have so many questions for you. Yeah, no problem.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Why do you listen? Glutton for punishment or what? Why? If I'm being completely honest, I don't really have many conservatives in my life that I can talk to you about stuff like this. So I really like to get that perspective from you and just kind of see what the other side. I was thinking. That's great. That is great.
Starting point is 00:16:53 The only problem is I can't usually get answers to questions that I, like, want. Like, I'll be screaming at the radio thinking, like, oh, but what about this? What about that? So, you know. All right. Well, let's go for it. You know, the other option was, and I thought it was probably a better, you know, a more likely option.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Maybe you were paraplegic and somebody had left the radio on that really did not like you. And you're, like, in the room going, I can't change the dial. Anyway, go ahead, Anthony. Right. So what I wanted to talk about was your take on the Jim and Kimmel suspension way back when. Honestly, I don't think you really came down hard enough on Trump for that. Because, I mean, you had the FCC chair who came out and basically threatened ABC on national television. And I feel like the next day, I think, if I remember correctly, you came out and said, well, Kimmel had low ratings.
Starting point is 00:17:42 ABC is wanting to get rid of him for a while. And I feel like that kind of flies in the face of what you've been saying a lot about when you say that you can disenfranchise. agree with someone, but you would defend their right to say what they believe. So I just, I feel like Trump, we have a lot of people looking the other way. Okay, really good, fair. And maybe I didn't make a big enough deal out of it, but my opinion was always, we don't cancel people. I don't want to cancel people. And Stu, I remember Stu and I talking about, this is beyond what the FCC, because I know the FCC. I happen to know that commissioner. And I think he's very, very wise. I didn't think this was the right move. And as somebody who is regulated by the FCC, I don't want them to be able to do that to
Starting point is 00:18:34 me. So why would I want them to do that to Jimmy Kimmel? So I am absolutely against it. And I do stand up for people when they lose their jobs. I didn't think this was going to last. But, But when it comes to Jimmy Kimmel, ABC does have a right to fire people for low ratings. And I think this probably came from the frustration of what's his name of the dancing syringes, Colbert. He knows he's lying about all of that. He's low ratings, no low ratings. He was so far over budget. they were hemorrhaging tens of millions of dollars on that show every year.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And you can only, as a network, you can only hemorrhage money for so long. And, you know, you're not turning it around. You're going to get fired. And that's what that was all about. So I may have not come out as strongly as I should have. And I'm glad you called me on that, Anthony. Yeah, it's just one of those things. I just feel like I would like it if more conservatives were willing to come out as strongly
Starting point is 00:19:46 against other conservatives as they would if it was a Democrat doing it because I know you'd be screaming about this if Biden's SEC chair had done that. Well, they did. You know, I had three White House. The chair went on national television saying that they had three White House
Starting point is 00:20:08 I had three White House executives or advisors in the White House running campaigns to get me thrown off the air. So, I mean, I've lived it. And so I do understand it. Well, I, you know, I can't say much to that. But what I can say is I just, I've never, I personally have never seen it before where someone can go on national television, issue a blatant threat, make it so obvious.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And then just have everyone else just kind of say, oh, well, you know, he had low rating. So that's what that was about. Yeah. Well, I hope, Anthony, I hope I've. I mean, not to rehash the entire Kimmel thing. though. I think it's a little bit overstating it, honestly, when it came to what the threat was. I mean, he was in the middle of an interview. He's asked a question he was talking about this. And just like, you know, a lot of officials do, he was talking about a story. And I don't,
Starting point is 00:21:02 I didn't take it as this is going to happen to you tomorrow. We're going to come after you. I also don't think he had the power to do it anyway. I mean, I think there was a lot of talk. And I will, I will say that I am sympathetic to the case that at times the Trump administration, talks more than they should about these things in various different topics. A lot of times claiming powers that they don't have in interviews when, you know, these aren't even things that could happen, but there's a lot of big talking going on at times. And I don't like that particularly about the administration. You know, it's funny, Anthony, I think you'd be probably surprised at how many times we have said on and off the air,
Starting point is 00:21:45 this is getting close to constitutional problems and if it goes any farther you know we're going to be on the other side i mean we we watch this very carefully very carefully and we're i mean we're debating some things right now um you know that i i don't know how to make sense of but i don't have to make sense of it yet because it hasn't happened but if it does happen then i got to look at it and go, okay, it's unconstitutional. I can't stand there. I can't do it. We really try really hard, but you don't hear that.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And, you know, I don't expect you to take my word for it. No, but I do believe. Is there anything? I do believe that that is, you know, I do believe that you guys would hold it accountable if you felt that it would cross the Constitution. I'm just kind of, for me, I guess I'm just waiting to see it. And I don't know if we'll ever come to that point where Trump will. actually blatantly do something that flies in the place of the Constitution. But with things like
Starting point is 00:22:45 him tweeting out, you know, if I save the country, I don't break laws, stuff like that. No, yeah, we don't agree with that. Yeah. And you know what, Anthony, you know, there might be something, there might be something here that we disagree on that might be part of the problem. I took, I took Donald Trump's words literally for a long time. and that's why I was against Donald Trump at the beginning. And then I realized, oh, he doesn't, that's a show. And I hadn't seen that before in a president. And I'm not saying that's good or bad.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I don't personally like the show part of it. But that's a show. You take him, you don't take him literally. You do take him seriously. And he says a lot of stuff that you're like, all right, and I'm not going to do that. You know, and you can take it to the extremes. Hey, little rocket man, you know, may have to vaporize North Korea.
Starting point is 00:23:46 He's not going to do that. He's not going to do that. I don't like that he said that, but I don't get, you know, into a panic because he's not going to do that. And so you have to separate what he says from what he actually does. So sometimes we don't comment on what he says because I look for what he's doing instead. Does that make sense to you? I understand what you're saying. I just, I guess what I'd see to that is I would just like it if we had a president who didn't make me have to try to parse through what he's saying when he says something that blatant.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Oh, you know what? I have to tell you, so would I. But I live in the world that is the world that it is, not the world that I wish it was. Yeah, I get that. Anthony, call me any time. I really appreciate your phone call. And if you hear something, you just, you call. And I'll make sure the phone screener puts you to the top of the list because I really would like to hear the other side.
Starting point is 00:24:52 From someone rational. Like I love having conversations with people on the other side. That's actually rational and calm. Yeah. And so we do appreciate you listening, Anthony. That's awesome. And thanks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Big time. Thank you so much, Anthony. I appreciate. You got it. All right. Now can we bash him? He's off the air. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I mean, we're going to bash him like crazy. that pinko bedwetting what a moron! Those are my favorite calls. I like those two. When people can, I mean, and don't you kind of starve for that? Wouldn't you love to have that conversation with family members that where you don't agree? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And the points he brings up, like, we've talked about this, and we have talked about it on the air. Of course, there are definite issues that we have with Trump. You know, I've talked many times about the tariff powers. I don't think he has. And I think, you know, that's going to be. We talked about that many times. We've hammered him on COVID. Yeah, we've had with some of the COVID stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:50 You know, and I will say, like, I have a disconnect a little bit internally that it's probably something that he's noticing and maybe others are as well where like stuff like when the president comes out and goes after a giant media company editing his interviews. Like I, the BBC one that has just come out was blatantly terrible. And that one really did feel defamatory. Some of them are just like things that Donald Trump doesn't like. And some of it makes me feel kind of good inside emotionally. But I also really am hesitant to be excited about a president going after individual media companies in a country like ours.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Number one, where I'm doing a show. And I can see we've done the show during Democratic presidents and had these pressures that we didn't like. But also in a country with the First Amendment. And it is a, it's a risky road. And I don't think he's crossed lines yet, Glenn. I don't know if you do. But I'm concerned about it at times. I, you know, I didn't like the tariffs on Canada, you know, for playing Ronald Reagan.
Starting point is 00:26:56 What is that? I don't even know if those actually went into effect. He said he was going to do them. I don't even know if they went into effect. Right, exactly. But, you know, if you look at the debate when we were. were going on the, what is it, the Alien and Sedition Act with James Madison. They, I mean, they went round after round after round.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And some of the most compelling arguments were, you can lie. You can lie about government officials. Okay. You can. You can lie about them. And when I first read that, and I'm like, wow, why would, what? but you look at their reasoning in the argument. They're like the government cannot be the arbiter of truth.
Starting point is 00:27:48 It cannot be. So if you lie about somebody outside of the government, if you lie about an individual and you're smearing them, but if you're lying about the government, you cannot put the government as the arbiter of truth because they have too much power. And so I don't like the fact that the government can come after you.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Donald Trump as an individual, you know, if you're saying things that are absolute lies about me, that BBC thing was just, somebody. That was really bad. Yeah, it was so bad, so agreed.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Also, in a country that doesn't have a First Amendment and those protections, which is maybe these companies should consider pushing for one in their nations because, you know, when you have those,
Starting point is 00:28:37 it's a lot easier to sue in that way over a public figure there. And I think, you know, if you're a public figure, you have a right to sue. I do not want the government going in and saying you can't do. Jimmy Kimmel, FCC, you have to get off. There's no space for that. No space for that, no matter what he says, no space for that. But when it comes to, hey, you're saying this and it's a lie and you're defaming me,
Starting point is 00:29:07 I think you should be able to sue. You're streaming the best of the Glenn Beck program, and you can find full episodes wherever you download podcasts. Hello, Stu. Hello, Glenn. How are you? Good. There's a couple of stories that I think are worth talking about. The tariff checks, which I don't really like. We can talk about that. Also, there's a new update on the Jeffrey Epstein thing.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I don't know what it means. Which one do you? Where do you want to start? Let me ask you a couple questions. which one do you like more, the $2,000 stimulus check or the 50-year-old mortgage, or a 50-year mortgage idea? Which one is, if you had to pick one, which one would you pick? If I had to pick one, I would pick the $2,000, you know, tariff check.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Yeah. I don't think I, I think I'd pick the 50-year mortgage. To me, the 50-year mortgage should be available if some bank wants to offer it. It's up to a private, I don't know what the government has to do with any of this, but if a, if a bank wants to say, hey, 50-year mortgage, here you go, take that risk and trust someone's going to pay you back for 50 years? Okay. I want the money. What? I want the money. You want the money. I got news for you, Glenn. You're not going to be in the category that receives anybody. I'll never, I'll never get it. You're paying for it, not receiving it. Yeah. But yeah, no, I, I, neither one of those two
Starting point is 00:30:32 stories are my favorites. And yeah, I don't, I don't like, I don't want to be writing checks. I mean, you know, I don't want to be, you know, the money is never really the money. It's never, it's not only we have access, you know, we got, you know, whatever he says, $3 billion. Great. Can we apply that directly to the debt? How about that one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:54 But he's, he knows he's in trouble. He knows he's in trouble. He can't turn the economy around as quickly as he did the last time. It's not 2016 anymore. And so, you know, everybody was expecting. voting for him to turn things around and the price of gas has gone down. The price of eggs have gone down. But you're still, you know, now we're at 3% inflation. Well, okay, what about going the other direction? Getting the prices down to where they were, you know, in 2020. And gas has
Starting point is 00:31:26 done that, but very few other things have done that. Yeah. And I think, you know, understandably, it's a central part of his platform. The tariffs have been a big focus. He's talked a lot about it. It's also one of those things that, you know, there's a lot of disagreement on. So I think that's where he's drawn, right? Like, that's him. He likes being in the fight. He likes being out there talking about these things. Yep.
Starting point is 00:31:46 So that, I think, has, because it's not a particularly popular issue, it has made his economic approval ratings, ratings be more difficult, I think. And I think people are feeling, you know, some of the stuff being echoes from previous administration, you know, with the spending and everything else, that's still the major cause of price increases, is not tariffs as of yet. But, you know, some of that, you know, isn't helpful as well. And you try to throw in $2,000 at people, you know, again, I don't know that that's even going to pass.
Starting point is 00:32:19 He can't just do it. You know, that's not something that he can just do on his own. He can't just hand out thousands of dollars in checks. I don't think. I've seen a constitutional justification for that. So I don't think that's what he's even planning. I'm sure he's planning on trying to get something passed to do that if that comes up. But you're right.
Starting point is 00:32:37 we don't have the money. You know, I don't, I am not a person who wants to solve our debt problems with increased, quote, unquote, revenues to government. I don't think that's the correct way to do it. But if you have those revenues, if just, you know, things are going great and you get more money in, you're right. I'd rather have that dished out toward the debt, at least as long as there's a long-term plan to address it. I mean, I don't know that paying, you know, 1% or 2% of our debt off is even better than, honestly, just dishing out a bunch of money to people. But I will say it is what we would refer to as a,
Starting point is 00:33:14 you think it's a, there's wealth, it is going from one place to another, and we are redistributing it. That is what is occurring here. And it is used to be something we had a big problem with. Yeah, I don't like it. Again, something he threw out. Maybe it's not even a hardcore proposal,
Starting point is 00:33:28 but we should be concerned about going down that path long term. What is, what is he going to do? Honestly, what can he do? We talked about this a little bit yesterday, and one thing we didn't get a chance to get to that I would love to get your thoughts on, is I think this is one of the reasons
Starting point is 00:33:50 he's really embraced going all in on AI. I think he sees this and the opportunity of leading the world in AI as a way to grow the economy out of the problems that we're facing here. And that's usually his approach. You think that that's part of it? It's always his approach.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Yeah. I think that's 100% what it is. He's been convinced that this is the future. And, you know, if that works and we're the leader in it, then we will grow our way out because of the taxes and the jobs and everything else. And we will, we could dwarf, you know, through a really robust economy. We could grow and grow and grow to where. even just this debt, it doesn't seem so bad.
Starting point is 00:34:35 That's absolutely his plan. But that's a long way away and getting there. Did you see the story in Texas about the server farm that's all built, ready to go? They're still working on the power plant, but they have all the permits and they're actually building the power plant. Did you see that? No. In Texas. They don't have anybody taking it yet.
Starting point is 00:34:58 What do you mean? They said they built a server farm with no company attached to it? no company attached to it. Texas is, and it's not a Texas thing. It's, you know, a bunch of,
Starting point is 00:35:08 you know, billionaire Texans. They're like, we'll build you a server farm. And so they're building these buildings with power plants because they want all of them to be in Texas. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:35:20 they're saying don't panic, but you would think that there would have been takers for that immediately. And, you know, it's been offered and nobody has snapped it up yet. Hmm. That concerns me a bit. Obviously, there's a lot of economic considerations as to, you know, you get to figure out what the cost is.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And there's a lot to consider there. But, you know, it's interesting. I mean, there is a theory that this is really going to be a bubble. And we're going to see a situation like we did in 2000 where the Internet kind of blew up on everybody. And it's not that AI, the Internet never came, right? It's certainly a big part of our lives, maybe all of your life, if you happen to be under the age of 30 or so. But the internet came. It did change the world.
Starting point is 00:36:05 But it took a while. And we had a collapse before it really did what everyone was promising it was going to do. So I told you yesterday I'm reading 1929, a new book, 1929. It is fabulous. You got to listen to it or read it. It's just fabulous. But they're describing what the exuberance was like in 1929. 29 and how, you know, it's never going to go down.
Starting point is 00:36:36 It's never going to go down. Do you know, I mean, look at all of the things on the horizon. Look at all the new technology that is happening. Look at the people that are moving in. And, you know, we've got so many cars and so many refrigerators to sell. And everything is changing. And it's just up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. And everybody bought into it.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I mean, it was, I knew the run up to the crash of 29 was bad with exuberance. I had no idea. was this bad. I mean, they were openly calling it stock gambling. People were, people were taking money, borrowing money, and then they would invest it in a company, but they would watch it as it would go during the day. And they would make several trades, you know, in a week because, you know, I hear this one's hot and we're going to gain a little here and then we'll pull it out and then we'll put money over here. I mean, it was gambling. It literally was gambling. And it was just consuming everybody. And the real problem is, is the banks decided that they would give loans for playing
Starting point is 00:37:44 the stock market. And so all of these banks are just so over leveraged. And that's kind of what I feel like here. These, you know, we're really excited about, you know, the future of AI. Some of us are also equally as terrified. But it is. going to happen. I just don't know how it's going to happen and when it's going to happen. And there just seems to be so much money sloshing around in the system and we don't even have the power units. You see, there's another server farm that has just been built and it's sitting empty and has been sitting empty for a while because it's in California. A, nobody wants to build a server farm in California. B, they didn't connect it to its own power plant. And so California,
Starting point is 00:38:29 you can't put a pical. You're going to really, you're going to suck all that energy when you already have brownouts and then the server farm is just going to go down every once in a while. That's completely unworkable. Let me just interrupt real quick for a quick message from Gavin Newsom, 2028
Starting point is 00:38:44 because there's never been a man more clearly running for president. And also, you know, this is a guy, we need people to be aware of what it's like in California and what they're dealing with there. You're right. It would be insane to to build these types of facilities there, knowing what California will likely do to you.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And you're right. I think we both have the same concerns on AI. There's a lot of bad that comes along with it. But, you know, there is a lot of promise as well. And there probably will be really good developments that come out of it. And it probably will take over the world and do all the major, you know, amazing things that they say it's going to do along with a lot of really terrible ones, just like the iPhone. But, you know, the path there is not.
Starting point is 00:39:29 It's not linear. It's not this wonderful upswing. Something's going to happen. And you look at the way our economy is structured right there. Wow, the bet is big on AI. I mean, it's really the only bet anyone's making right now. I know. Can I switch topics here for a second?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Sotheby's is having a big auction. And something really, really important in the art world is going out for sale. it is a solid 18 karat gold toilet now not the toilet that you might have heard before that one was stolen they never found it it's just the gold is worth 10 million dollars it's going up for sale this artist he's some you know cultural phenomena according to sotheby's he took gold melted it down and made it into a gold throne okay uh apparently it's a statement on the x-suffe of capitalism. Yeah, but I think the real statement isn't in the art.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I think the real statement is in us. You know, have you ever heard of DeChamp, Stu? He was an artist in the 1920s, and he did a urinal. And he was making fun of the art world. And he just took a urinal out of a men's restroom. and then put it on the wall and called it art. And he was mocking the art world, mocking him, saying, you know, you call anything art. And, you know, and as long as you like it, then it goes up on value.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Well, the art world critics decided, oh, well, two can play at that game. We love that. That is art. That is beautiful art. And it became one of the most famous art pieces around. Now they're doing it with the toilet, which, You should just tell everybody, you know, this whole thing is a con. It's a con.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah. The art world is a con. And this comes from the 100th most important person in the world of art as named by Art Something magazine several years ago. Yeah. Glenn Beck. My favorite magazine. Yes. It was Art Something magazine.
Starting point is 00:41:46 But I will say, you ever notice how a lot of statements against capitalism end up in the person making the statement with a lot of money. Uh-huh. That seems to happen a lot. I have noticed that. It's like all these Hollywood movies that make these grand statements against capitalism wind up lining their pockets with millions of dollars. It's so strange how that happens. Yeah, but they hate it.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And they hate themselves when they have to spend it. They just hate themselves. You know, this artist, he just hates capitalism. But somehow another, he got enough. Now, remember, the last toilet sold for the same. and so the last toilet was like $10 million. So he had $10 million. Then that toilet was stolen.
Starting point is 00:42:30 And so he's made another one with another $10 million worth of gold. So this starving artist somehow or another has coughed up $20 million to make two gold toilets. But he hates capitalism and rich people. They're just so horrible.

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