The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | 12/10/25

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

Glenn tells the story of the original animated TV special “How the Grinch Stole Christmas” and the man behind the iconic jingle, who is also the voice of multiple iconic voices in American media. Glenn and Jason predict that jobs will become scarce as AI continues to take over society.  For years, the Council on American-Islamic Relations has potentially been getting away with breaking U.S. law. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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how the Grinch stole Christmas. I mean, do you know the history of this? It is crazy. How Dr. Seuss, why he wrote it in the first place, and the hidden voice that everyone thinks they know,

but they don't. And when you find out who it is, you're like, I don't know that person, but you do know that person. It's a great story. Also, what is the future of jobs in an AI nuclear world? Really great conversation on that. And exposing the fraud within care. The Council on Arab-American-Arab relations or whatever it is.

American Islamic, thank you. The Council on American-Islamic relations. Okay. We've been talking about it for 20 years. I still don't know the name of it. I kind of blocked it. We've been talking about for 20 years. Finally, investigations are starting,

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And I think in some ways everybody in America is. I mean, why, honestly, why would you go to college? I mean, anybody who is sending their kids to college, unless it's for something very specific or you just want, you know, your kid to find themselves into, you know, whatever that is. Why? Why are you doing it? I'm begging my kids. Trade school, trade school, trade school, trade school.

Because that is the job. Those are the jobs of the future. Trade schools. You know, you be a plumber. I don't know how long that's going to last, maybe 10 or 15 years, but that will last longer than, let's say, truck driver.

That'll last a lot longer than attorney. you know, physician's assistant, well, maybe a physician's assistant, a PA probably will last a while. Nursing will last a while. But the doctors,

I mean, you don't need as many as you're, as we have right now in the future, because it'll be able to be done robotically. And I know this sounds crazy, but it's coming. It is coming.

Now, we need doctors. So, yes, go to school for a doctor. But what else? Why are you going to school? Accounting? Business? Really? You need that degree?

Had the same conversation with my son. Exactly same. Does not like it. It doesn't even want to talk about it. It's depressing. This is where apathy. Yeah, it is depressing. But they completely shut down and get undinterested over anything.

But I told him, I even offered him. I said, I will go to electrician school with you. We were going to do it at night. I was going to do it just to learn another skill. and he didn't even want to talk about it. You're that confident in the show? No, the storage thing's going to work out, Glenn. I'm taking night classes to be an electrician. I was actually trying to get around my wife screaming at me the next time I blow the entire circuit in the house. Right. I'm sure. Sure. I got it. I got it. But they don't even, they know something I don't know.

They don't even want to talk about it. And I know. And these are issues that I'm actually really, really scared about. Because take a, it's a complete crazy circle catch-22 situation that's going on. right now. On one hand, you have the youth, they're not able to basically survive in the economy right now. They're looking at things like- They're not able to survive in anything. In anything. If it's not cooked in a microwave, how many of our kids know how to cook, even know where food comes from. Yeah. I mean, they're not able to survive. You know, I read something about Teddy Roosevelt. Robotics can definitely do that, right? I mean, you think if all this stuff is coming away and these jobs, are going away who's going to need to know how to cook.

I just this becomes a really depressing conversation. I'm not surprised your son was like, gosh, this sucks and shuts down and that. Like, because it's you know, I have a relative who owns a plumbing business and he does great. He does awesome.

And it's been incredible for him and his family. That being said, not everybody wants to be a plumber or electrician, right? Like, there's no, I know that. You know? So like if what you're, you're the You're the bad parent in the after school specials. Like, just screw your dreams.

You go be a plumber. Like, who wants to be that guy? Not true. My daughter wants to do the absolute impossible. She wants to be an actress. I would love to say, screw your dreams. You're not doing that. And she talked about going to school.

You know, I could go up to, you know, some university up in New York. And I'm like, that's not happening. You want me to pay for it. not doing that. But have a good time. You want to earn it yourself. Go ahead. But I'm not sending you up into that viper's nest.

But I said to her, let's design a school for you. Let's instead of paying all of this money, let me get private acting classes. Let me get, you know, private dance classes. It's less than a university. And you know what really got her? It was like, you then don't have to study all the stuff that you're never, ever going to use. You don't, you don't, you don't need to take, you know, advance calculus or any, you know, because you're never going to use that. You're never going to use that. Now,

my son, he likes math. That's fine with him. He, you know, but there are things when, when they are driven for something, you don't have to say, be a plumber. You can say, let's find ways for you to learn this in a better way. Yeah. See, if you're making a point against the university system, you do not need to sell me. It's like trying to sell me on the Jasmine Crockett, you know, candidacy. You have to do no work on that one. Right. But I do think that like it's interesting because I think you're right.

I think a lot of these jobs are going to go away. In fact, they're already signs of this. You know, I mean, to the extent of, you know, the back and forth about, you know, tariffs and all this other stuff, we've seen a decline in manufacturing jobs in this country this year. A decline. And I don't think that's because, you know, tariffs, you know, are shutting down manufacturing any more than they would have previously, you know, there's arguments about that. But I think more than anything else, people are just taking these jobs offline and automating them. All these big companies are replacing thousands of jobs. These announcements are in the news every

day. And, you know, it's going to be tough to figure out what the next thing is. I think you're right. like plumbing and electricians and all these things are going to be very valuable, particularly in the short to medium term. But, you know, it's tough to message that to a kid. Hey, like, just find this job that you don't really like and just do it because it's the only job that exists. It's not exactly an inspiring message. So let me ask you a question because maybe it's just me because of what I do, but I don't

think it is. You know, I married into the idea of AI. I wrestled with it hard. I mean, you know, Stu, I've been talking about this since the 1990s, and I have been wrestling with this because it is a nuclear weapon in the hands of every single person. It's the most dangerous thing man has ever created and the greatest thing man is ever created. Okay. And so you have to really be careful with it, and you have to know how to use it.

But, you know, I told, who was it? Sarah, I think I told you yesterday. I said, I am. I mean, I cried a Kleenex commercial, so, you know, this doesn't mean anything. But I've gotten emotional using it recently because there has been stuff inside of me since I was 10 things, dreams, ideas that I've always wanted to do. And I'm now being able to not only do those things, but do those things in a way that would have cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars that would have taken me months to do.

it was just I couldn't do it. And I'm realizing now, as I'm scratching the surface, I'm learning more about history right now because I can grab the resources so fast. I can look into stuff and go, well, that doesn't seem right. And I can go deeper. What is the difference between doing that? As long as you are using, you're directing it and you're using it and checking the sources, et cetera, et cetera. what's that what's the difference between that and almost like a book that was written for all of the questions you have and because it all it's doing is it's taking what you have inside of you and following that and mining for things that will make that stronger i've i've learned so much history in the last year i've learned so much about uh not just technology but uh But about my own nature on how I work, what I believe is right, what I believe is wrong. I mean, I've had this explosion because I'm using AI every day. And I don't understand why that's not considered like a university in its own way. Can I, can I give you, so you have a perspective of that as a creative. Yes, yes. And you're like, this is, I, thinking of the amazing things you can do with it.

Can I give you the perspective of like my son's generation, or at least him and his friends? this is what they're thinking. While this sucks, the economy is so screwed, I will never be able to own anything my entire life. Now, this is what they're telling us, speaking from my son's perspective, but everyone's telling us, don't worry about it.

We're going to build, build, build, and we're betting everything on AI. Okay, great. So it is going to get better, right? Oh, how many jobs are going to be destroyed? So I can't do that one thing that I wanted to do because of AI. So the solution to why I can't ever take part of the American dream is what's going to eventually take the job that I want to get so that I can someday get the American. They're in that circle and they're like, I'm screwed.

And then you look at people like Elon Musk that says, don't worry about it because automation, I'm going to be building all these robots. It's going to completely solve world hunger. Wait a minute, but I won't have a job. So none of the math adds up. They're like, wait a minute. No, it does. Remember, Stu, we've been talking about this problem for how many years, and I could not get anybody to listen.

I can't get anybody to listen. I'll say, you know, truckers, and I can't remember the number, ask chat, GPT, but are the number of automated trucks on the road in Texas right now. It's staggering, okay? They're testing them in Texas. It's staggering the amount of trucks that don't have a driver in it. Okay. When that really hits, you're going to see, you're going to see, you're going to see.

mass unemployment. And then the question is, well, how do I participate? And the answer will be universal basic income because that's the only answer anyone has explored. That's the answer that everyone who is in power wants you to accept. And so if we don't talk about these things right now, right now, people have no idea. Your life, Stu, we were just talking about George A.I. George AI, what it is today and what it will be in 12 months, you will not recognize it. Well, the same could be said for everybody's job and the country. You, you, everything you thought was solid today. I've said this to you for a long time and everybody knows, oh my gosh, the whole world is upside down, inside out.

What I thought was solid is now liquid. I can't count on anything, right? Let me say, you can't count on anything right now. everything that you think you know about today is going to be liquid a year from now or 18 months from now. It's going to be that much of a change to you. And if we don't have these conversations, that's the problem. The problem is, and I've been, gosh, you're having all of these conversations in Washington, D.C. and with the tech bros.

But we're the ones whose lives are going to be affected. You know, I've been thinking about all of the things that I'm going to be able to do and present and be able to teach and show and change the way people learn things. I'm going to be able to do so much. But then again, in two years or three years from now, I don't know if that's even going to be unique. I don't know. I mean, there are so many creators on the planet and so many people who have, ideas and everything else. It's going to get so crowded. It's almost going to be just based on you.

What is it that you like? What is it that it won't, it won't even be these, I don't think, it's just going to be so crowded. You think there are a lot of shows that you watch on Netflix and Amazon and everything else and you're like, there are shows that have five seasons into them and they're great and I've never even heard of them. Yeah. Okay. That's, it times that by a hundred thousand. That's what life will be like in two years. And you can see why people will be depressed by this. I mean, from a societal standpoint, you always use this disclaimer, and it's the right disclaimer, which is, you have to use it the right way.

You have to use it responsibly. What evidence do you have that the American people have ever done this with anything? They never use anything responsibly. Look at cell phones. They just take over their entire life with no knowledge of what the effects were. And I think it's 10 times worse with AI. I totally understand these concerns. And I think, too, there's an element of this looks really appealing, I think, to the top of the food chain.

You know, because there's a lot of things like the typical pipeline issues you have and cost issues go away. I have 100 different ideas. I want to do them this way. I can create them in seconds. And that sounds fantastic. But if like you're a, you know, a young, I don't know, screenwriter. Right? Like, your passion to get into this was I want to create this amazing thing.

And now your new job is I need to figure out how to get AI to help me do that. And while I agree that is just like we adjusted to the internet, right? Like there are adjustments to that. And these things change over time. But it's not as, I don't think is as inspiring. If I was an 18 year old screenwriter right now, I'd be like, yeah, why bother? They're just churning these things out. And there's 900,000 movies on Netflix that.

created in the last week. Why am I bothering with this? Depressing? No. I mean, at least you could see how it would be depressing. I don't see it that way. I can see it that way. I can. But if you're looking at it as it's enhancing, it's enhancing what I do and what I, because I still make the choices. I still say, no, not that line, that line. And then I have to start it all by saying I want it to feel this way. I want this character be this way. I want the whole thing. thing to work out. I might ask for prompts. What would give me three different scenarios on where it would be even better. I mean, you're still doing it. Uh, it's just not, you know, I'm not a

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This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and don't forget, rate us on iTunes. Beck mistletoe. Judging hearts, not Twitter buzz. So I'm putting the cry. Keep your outrage warm. Say that greeting is oppressive. Well, bless my soul, who knew. If Merry Christmas makes you tremble, phrase it's you.

I'll question. Churs lost the room. It's always about. But the manger holds the gold. Welcome to the program, the first offering from Glenn AI, putting the Christ back in Christmas. I have to tell you, I am working on so many different projects. Jason is here. He was with me this morning.

We drove in together. And I shared with him a project he didn't know I was working on something for history. And game-changing? Do you think, Jason? Oh, I was jamming out. I mean, it's game changing. It's game changing. We're going to hit you in so many different ways to, I want to, my goal is to hit all five senses to be able to, you know, however, whatever your learning skill is, we're going to hit you there.

And it's not going to happen right away, but man, we're so excited for the launch of, of the torch, which is happening on January 5th. You'll be able to go to glenbeck.com, get the app and get all of the information. soon. So stand by for that. Also, I'm, I'm planning a Christmas tour next year. And I'm in the midst of writing and putting that all together right now for next Christmas. And it's, it's going to be, it's going to be great. Going to go out on tour a couple of times next year. For 2026, we're going to do doing a few things. One thing we're going to be doing, and I can't give you any of the details, but let me just tell you, in, incredible event from Ellis Island. And that's going to be, that's just going to be loads of fun,

loads of fun. So, you know, in between all of that, I'm, I'm trying to stay, you know, abreast of all of the news and everything that's going on and we're doing that. But I have to tell you, I mean, is it just me who is kind of like, okay, I just, I want to coast in Christmas right now. I mean, not my job, but I mean, I just kind of, oh, I like this time of year because it just gives you a chance to reconnect with everything that is important and family. And I'm trying to do presents that aren't real, you know, present-y, you know, not go out and spend a lot of money, but just do something, do something that is meaningful for everybody I want to give a gift to, you know? yesterday it was yesterday a day before I was watching the Grinch stole Christmas and you know it was never one of my favorites as a kid I don't know why and maybe it was because it didn't have you know like Frosty the Snowman or Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer

you know those those were my favorites uh growing up but the Grinch and you know I think it was CBS that did the Grinch they didn't think that it would actually be you know know a hit. In fact, they didn't want to put any money into it at all. It was Chuck Jones and Dr. Seuss. What is his name? What's his name? Theodore Geisel, Dr. Seuss. He had written The Grinch. Do you know why he wrote The Grinch? He woke up the day after Christmas in the 1960s and he thought, what is wrong with me? And he was standing and he's shaving and he's looking in the mirror and he's like, I'm the Grinch.

I've become the Grinch. And so he wrote the book as a cure because he was thinking it was all about packages and boxes and bags. He wrote the book and it sold and sold and sold, but nobody was trying to bring it on TV because all of the networks out there's never ever going to be. Nobody's ever going to watch this. And then a guy who is a friend of his, a buddy of Dr. Seuss in the military during the war named Chuck Jones called him up and said, dude, I think we've got a smash hit on our hands. Now, if you don't know who Chuck Jones is, he did Bugs Bunny, Daffy Doc, Wally Coyote. He understood mischief just a little bit.

He understood timing. and he understood that the Grinch was not just a Christmas story. It was a warning. And so Jones calls him up and says, let me make this for television. I think I can sell it. Well, the network, I mean,

they almost threw him out. And he said, I'll do it, you know, we'll do it really cheaply. And they were like, how cheap can you do it? And so cheap.

And he started it because they were like, there's no Santa, there's no jolliness. The villain hates the holiday, but he said, I can do it really, really cheap. And the network gave them almost no money to do it,

but he kept planning and he kept animating. Cuts here, cuts there. They were cutting this, cutting that. How do we make this without, you know, without any more money?

And the network kept saying no to him on money because they were like, we're not even sure this is ever going to be seen. Then the first miracle of the grand show, happened. Boris Karloff heard about it. Now, if you don't know who Boris Karloff was, he was the king of horror. He was Frankenstein. He was the mummy. I mean, he's just great. And he said, are you really making this? I'd like to narrate it. And so he volunteered to narrate it. Now you have Boris Karloff. Now the network is like, okay, maybe we have something. Okay. But then they had to do music. And as they get into the music, they needed somebody that could bring the Grinch,

somebody who had a scowl that could match the Grinch. And that's when the guy who was never named comes into the picture and walks into the studio. And somewhere in a Los Angeles recording booth late at night, I think 1966, he steps up into a booth, up to a booth, up, to a microphone and his voice is so deep it's almost as if it rolled out of the earth itself you know

and he steps up to the microphone and he records the now really super famous anthem in the Grinch this you're a mean one Mr. Grinch you really

are so it's only six verses razor razor sharp it's dark, it's perfectly wicked. And the crew in the room, while they were listening to him do it, they're like, this is amazing. And the people that worked on it said, they knew that that performance would outlive all of them. They put it in the show.

The show airs. Credits roll. His name's not on it. Not a mention, not a whisper. No one, everybody thought it was Boris Karloff that did it. but that wasn't Boris Karloff. Dr. Seuss was really upset about it. So he started a campaign.

He wrote to the newspapers, begging them to correct the mistake, blah, blah, blah. And yet for years and years and years, most people watch it year after year, and they have no idea who this guy is. Do you know who he is? The man who actually delivered one of the most unforgettable performances in Christmas history vanished behind the curtain,

any idea who it is. I'm not going to help you. I'll give you the name, but it won't help you. Thirl Ravenscroft. You know who he is. Thorel Ravenscroft. Ever heard of him? No.

Because his name's never attached to anything. I mean, Thirl Ravenscroft, if that's not written by Dickens, I mean, it certainly should be. Here's who he is. He was known for his work in music, and animation. And you can hear him today.

He was one of Disney's most reliable deep voices. If you go to a Disney park, you can still hear him. He's in the haunted mansion. Pirates of the Caribbean. He was in the country bear jamboree, the Mark Twain Riverboat narrator. And he is recognizable when you hear him, but you don't know

who he is. But he also did a whole bunch of other stuff that most people don't know. He was a singer that backed a lot of people. Elvis, Bing Crosby, Rosemary Clooney, Tennessee Ernie Ford, Peggy Lee. He's a backup singer for all of those guys. He's also done Horton Here's a Who. He was the voice in 1997 of the Rankin and Bass Hobbit. He was in the Brave Little Toaster. Okay. He was in Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, Lady in the Tramp, the Aristocats, the Jungle Book. You'll hear him everywhere. But that's not how you really know him.

You know how you really know him? Because he already had a full-time job. And that full-time job was really just to say one line. And everyone knew that one line. Here's that one line. Tony the Tiger. Tony the Car. Cartoon Titan of Morning Serial is the secret voice that gave America the Grinch.

The greatest uncredited performance in all of television, just certainly, you know, holiday television, delivered by the same guy who convinced generations of children that frosted flakes were a part of a balanced breakfast. Thurl Ravenscroft, his name is nowhere to be found. but it should be and it should be remembered because he's great. You're listening to the best of Glenn Beck. Need a little more? Check out the full show podcasts. Anywhere you download podcasts.

Okay, so let me go over what is what's happening with care. You know, the founding fathers were obsessed over accountability because they knew one thing. You know, they didn't, they didn't get suggestions from people on, you know, through tweets. They studied every single system of government, every single republic that survived, that didn't survive, why didn't it survive? They studied all forms of government. They were trying to come up with something that could, could set people free. And they worked really hard on putting our checks and balances in place because they knew once power slips into the shadows, once influence becomes unmoored for law, what rises is not a republic, it's a machine.

And that's what you're seeing right now. We're not living in a republic. We're living in a machine. We, I think we're staring at one of the largest unregulated political machines operating in the United States ever. Okay. There have been a couple of groups that are, are doing sweeping investigations to watchdog groups. One of them is NCRI and the Intelligent Advocacy Network. And they have concluded now that the political arm of care known as care action has been operating nationwide with no legal authority to do the things it has been doing for years now. They're not allowed to raise money. They've been raising money. Coordinating political campaigns not allowed to do it, they're doing it.

Endorsing candidates, not allowed to do it, they're doing it. Mobilizing voters, shaping policy fights, functioning as a national advocacy network. They don't have the legal authority to do any of it, and no one has said anything. Now, according to the report, care action doesn't just have a paperwork problem. Investigators found state by state that it lacks the license, the registrations, the charitable authorizations required to legally solicit money, excuse me, or conduct political activity in any of the 22 states in which it operates. Think of that. I know how serious this is, because I remember what it took to get the license in each and every state for Mercury 1. So we could

operate, we could raise money, we could do things in those states. It's a lot of work. And if you don't do it, you go to jail. And they find out pretty quickly. Okay. 22 states, they operate not one. Zero legal authorization. In Washington, D.C., the city where care action is incorporated, the Department of Licensing and Consumer Protection told investigators,

they have no record of care action ever obtaining the basic business license required to solicit funds or to operate. imagine how long would you last in business, especially if you were controversial. How long would you remain in business if you never had a business license? You think somebody would figure that out in a sooner time than, I don't know, a couple of decades? This report means that the organization, if true, is engaging in unlicensed interstate solicitation. it has exposed itself to allegations as serious as deceptive solicitation, wire fraud, and false statements to the IRS. These are big things and this is not political rhetoric.

These are phrases written in black and white, in the law, and by investigators. In California, one of CARE's most active hubs, the state attorney general has said, the state of Attorney General of California has said same pattern here. The state of California, the attorney general is saying, yep, that's what's happening here. Care Action has never registered with California's charitable registry, never filed the required CT1 form, and has no authorization whatsoever to request donations, but they've been doing it in California anyway. fundraising, selling memberships, issuing endorsements, mobilizing voters, all of it been done by care action.

There's no record of any license, any permission ever going to care from California. That's according to their attorney general. Wow. That's pretty remarkable, huh? How does that happen? It's not just the coast. It's also happening in the Midwest, the South, the Mountain West. every state hosting its own Care Action fundraising page,

complete with the donate now and become a member portal, despite no trace of the legal filings required to operate. That's bad. Now here's where the stakes rise. Because Care Action presents itself openly as the political arm of Care National, investigators are now warning that any unauthorized fundraising or political activity could become care nationals responsibility as well. So in other words, the parent care itself might be held responsible, meaning this is not

just a rogue subdivision. This could implicate the entire national organization of care. Now, this is happening at the same time. It's coming under national scrutiny. It's also Texas. And I think Florida have designated the group a foreign terrorist organization. Members of Congress are now asking the IRS, the Treasury, the Department of Education to investigate all of its partnerships, all of its financing, all of its influence operations. I mean, I think they're going to be in trouble.

How long have we been saying this? But every time I have pointed out anything about care, I have been called an Islamophob, which shuts everything down. That is a word developed by people like care to shut people down so you'll never look into them. So what happens next? First of all, the reports have to hold up. Regulators now have an obligation, not a choice, an obligation to act. State Attorney Generals in these 22 states, they might pursue fines, injunctions, criminal referrals, all of them need to take action.

The IRS needs to take action, investigate tax-exempt fraud. Treasury Department may review foreign influence or money flow violations, anything coming from overseas. Oh, I can't imagine it. They're so buttoned up right now. DC regulators may determine whether Care Actions' entire fundraising operation has been unlawful from the beginning. But here's the deeper.

question and it's not bureaucratic. This one is constitutional. Can the United States tolerate an influence machine that operates outside of the legal framework designed to prevent corruption, foreign leverage, and untraceable money? If I hear one more time talking about how APAC is just got to be investigated, fine, investigate them. I'm not against it. investigate. Why aren't you saying anything about care? It feels like you might be a tool in the hands of a foreign operation. Why aren't you saying anything about this? Because here it is. It's not like, hey, I wonder why. This is it. This is it. This isn't about silencing care. Muslim Americans are with that are full citizens.

They have every right to speak, every right to vote, every right to organize, participate in public life. No question. They can disagree with me all they want. But no organization, none, not mine, not yours, not theirs, none should operate a nationwide political network in the shadows and be immune from all of the guardrails that every, other group must follow. That's called a fourth branch of government. That's how a fourth branch grows. By the way, care has placed all kinds of people in our Department of Homeland Security,

et cetera, et cetera. This organization has done it. This is, you cannot have a fourth branch of government. They must abide by the laws. No, you can't have a branch that nobody elected. Nobody overseas. nobody holds accountable. We talked about this yesterday on yesterday's podcast. So what needs to happen is total transparency. Care action has to release its filings, its donor structure, its compliance records,

if they exist. Equal enforcement under the law. I don't want them prosecuted in special ways. Look, if A PAC is doing the same thing, APAC should be prosecuted exactly the same way. I want it equal. I want constitutional rule. If conservatives, if Catholics, pro-Israel, environmental, Second Amendment groups, if they have to comply by the state law, so does Care Action. And if Care Action has to do it, so do the Second Amendment groups and environmentalists and Catholic and pro-Israel and conservative groups. The law cannot be selective.

It can't be. I don't know how that's controversial in today's world, but somehow or another, find a way. The feds have to review all this. If the report is accurate, the IRS and the Treasury have to determine whether false statements or unlicensed interstate solicitations have occurred. Americans deserve to know what exactly who's influencing our elections, who's shaping our policy, who's raising money in their state, especially if the organization claims political authority that it doesn't legally possess. Because history will teach us one unchanging lesson.

When a republic stops enforcing its own laws, someone else will always step in to fill that vacuum because power abhors a vacuum. Unregulated political power abhors of free people. So while it's about care, it's not about Muslim Americans. It's not about religion. As always, at least on this program, we try to make it about the rule of law. One standard for everyone or no standard at all.

And that, more than anything, will determine whether or not our institutions remain worthy of the freedom and responsibility that we have entrusted to them. C. Cirocet, bookine. Oh, that also. And profited. Villaray, the voice that we love that we

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