The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | 12/4/20

Episode Date: December 4, 2020

Restaurant owners have had enough of the lockdowns, and they’re speaking out. A fed-up California chef explains why banning outdoor dining is ludicrous. Discovery announced its own streaming service, and Warner Bros. will release movies simultaneously in theaters and on HBO Max. Jeffy joins Pat and Stu to talk all the movies that will finally be released. Joe Biden insists that we cancel our travel plans this Christmas, but once again predicts an outrageously high number of COVID deaths if we don’t. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the program. It is Friday, and it is Pat and Stu here for Glenn. A lot of great stuff today, including a great rant from a California chef, who is sick and tired of all the restrictions on his business and just wants to do outdoor dining. He's not even trying to open up the inside of his restaurant. He's so frustrated about the situation where you have these restaurant owners spending thousands of dollars to retrofit their places to try to get people inside and deal with these restaurants. restrictions and then they just told to close down.

That really is an amazing rant. I think you're going to like that quite a bit. Also, Joe Biden wants you to wear a mask for just 100 more days, just 100 more days. And you can trust him for some reason. I don't know what the reason is, but you can trust him. It'll only be 100 days. Also, I want to tell you about the, if you're on your podcast right now, go over to Pat Gray Unleashed and subscribe to Pat Gray Unleashed right now.

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I missed the broadcast yesterday. But there was a video released from the state of New York where people are chanting and hollering in the streets. And I can't make out what they're saying. And I was hoping, especially used to that you'd be able to, I know you understand New York Yeah, I was born in New York. That you could help me understand what they're saying. Sure.

in this video. Mm-hmm. Tough to pick up. Can we hear it again? Can I can't make it out what they're saying. It almost sounds like. Somebody sucks, I think. Can we hear it one more time?

I can't quite. It's difficult, Jeff. You're right. It's tough to pick up. I know. It almost sounds like something like Cuomo. sucks. That's it.

That's it. Oh, I knew you would know. Thank you. And it's interesting because in New York, the governor of New York of New York is Andrew Cuomo and he sucks. So that would make sense. Cuomo sucks. Makes perfect sense.

Right. For a New Yorker to want to chant. Gosh darn it. Thank you. You're welcome. I'm so glad I brought that in to figure that one out. I was talking to somebody the other day about this relative who lives in New York. And we were talking about Andrew Cuomo.

And of course, obviously, I believe Andrew Cuomo. is awful.com. But we were talking about like, it hasn't really changed in the polling his approval rating all that much. It's gone from like, at one point it was almost like 80%. And it's gone down to like the 70s or the 60s. But it needs to be like one. Like one.

Like I can understand his family. At the most. Yeah, like maybe his family. Chris, his brother likes him. Yeah. And that's it. That should be like one person. He doesn't even like him anymore.

The daughter had the boyfriend that was working at the. mansion and the Cuomo shipped him off to the border. No, you're seeing my daughter? Yeah, no, Canadian border. Yeah, that is right. It was good. That actually kind of, something like that did happen. Yes.

So, you know, I don't know. Well, it turned around in New York. I mean, they're obviously so liberal, but you, at some point when, you know, you have a liberal governor who you might like some of their policies, but you realize, you know, they've killed your grandparent, you know, you, I don't know. That would tend to dampen your attitude. I would think so. It definitely seems like New Yorkers are becoming more outspoken about how bad Cuomo is.

But the polls haven't moved enough for my liking yet, Pat or Jeffey. It's pissing me off. Also, I'm looking forward to the new brand new streaming service. We don't have enough streaming services in our lives anymore. No, Quibi's gone. Quibi's no more. This is exciting news. Discovery Plus.

Discovery. Discovery. Discovery. is going to be a new streaming service looking forward to it. We've all been clamoring for that. I know. And finally they responded. 55,000 episodes,

2,500, current and classic shows. I mean, and it's going to be, all their networks, I mean, they have HDTV, food,

TLC, own planet Earth, and of course, the ever popular, and more. And so, I love that show. I know,

me too. How much you're willing to pay for the streaming service for a discovery? for Discovery Plus. I'm going to go zero dollars, but also they're charging a little bit more.

They're charging a little bit more than that. Are they really? Yeah, they are. $4.99. $4.99 a month. $6.99 ad free for Discovery Plus. That's interesting.

I don't know. I know. It's just people will get to the point. And look, we happen to be, there happens to be a Blaze TV that we all love and would love you to subscribe to. Please do blazattsv.com slash Glenn. but it is

there is some sort of like how many different subscriptions I have no idea how many I have I feel like I have 50 well you look at your Amazon right everybody's got Amazon Prime most people have Netflix although we dropped ours because of that child porn thing you got your

just throw that out there you got your Hulu you got your CBS you got Disney Plus you've got AMC has a streaming thing too right Apple TV Plus Apple TV Plus And looking forward to the new Hillary Clinton broadcast. She just announced yesterday with Apple TV Plus. It's Hillary and Chelsea, right?

Yeah. Doing what? They've created a production company, and their first thing is going to be the book that they put together about Strongwood. Strong winning. Yeah, it's going to be great. Oh, wow. Can't wait for that. It's going to be great.

And that's Apple TV. It makes me want to subscribe. Man, do I want Apple TV plus? Uh-huh. So, I mean, that's quite a number. Yeah, there's way more than that. HBO Max. HBO Max and HBO Max just announced that they've got the new deal now where Warner Brothers, their movies, remember they're going to do Wonder Woman in December this month, going to launch at movie theaters and HBO Max for three.

Simultaneously. Yes. Yeah. They just inked the deal now. All of 2021 movies on Warner Brothers will be released at the theater and on HBO Max for free for the first 30 days. Seems hard to overstate how big a deal that is, right? I know that industry. Wow.

I mean, I've heard theater chain stocks are going in the tank. And it does, is this the end of the theaters? I don't know. I mean, Universal just made that deal, right? Where they were going to start. They made the deal with, with the movie theaters that they're going to allow their movies to be released at the movie theaters for only for 30 days before it goes to video on demand. But if it doesn't make, I think it was the $50 million mark, then it's 17 days.

and it goes to video on demand. And Universal is giving the movie theaters a cut of all of that, though. So, you know, we'll see what happened. I just, I knew as soon as they announced the Wonder Woman deal, and this was announced on Chewing the Fat, by the way, that it was going to be a done deal for the rest,

for the near future for sure, yeah. And that's it. They're saying that this is only, you know, creative solutions for 2021. So those creative solutions are going to be, are going to be for unlimited amount of time now in the future until the theaters actually close. And you have this like weird chicken and egg thing going on with these movie theaters where you just, they're not releasing any movies.

So there's no reason for theaters to be open. Right. And there's no reason to go to theaters because they're not releasing any movies. And there's no reason to release movies because none of the theaters are open. So there's no, there's like no real way to get this to work. This is a great, I think actually a really good idea because they can guarantee a bunch of cash for me. HBO and they can still get into the theaters. Well, they were saying HBO Max was saying they only, on HBO Max specifically only had like

9 million subscribers. HBO has 28 million. And many, many of those people that have HBO haven't flipped over to HBO Max yet. So they want everybody to flip over to HBO Max and they want new subscribers, which they're going to get with these movies. They're going to get a lot. No problem. I mean, they're releasing 17 movies that they're going to online that they're going to release for HBO Max and the series. theaters. And I mean, who doesn't want to watch Godzilla versus Kong? I gotta say, I'm dumb

enough to show up for Godzilla versus Kong. I think it was the last Godzilla movie, which was another like War of the Monsters and it was not good. The last Godzilla movie was really bad. I didn't watch it because I assumed

that going in. The one before that was actually good. The original one with a With Brian Cranston in it, and that's not the original Godzilla, but the original of this latest string of them. Is that the one? Yes. Isn't that one?

Yeah. He said that. You got James Guns of the Suicide Squad. Yeah. You have the long, according to this release, you have the long-awaited fourth Matrix film. How long-awaited? I thought they ended that thing. Whoa, no.

And Matrix 3 was so bad. And Convaluted. And Matrix 2 was also really bad. Matrix 1 is a great movie. All the other ones have been terrible. You have Space Jam. This is the one of LeBron. I don't know.

We just inked a new deal too, by the way. Yes, a lot of money that he doesn't deserve. Speaking of Braun, are you in love with the fact that he may stick around in the NBA long enough to see Brony get into the league as well? Wouldn't that be great? To have LeBron James and LeBron James Jr. Oh, that would be great. He'll make sure that the kid gets in. Yes, he will.

Could the kid be any more? Is it possible that he's as annoying as LeBron James? James, is it possible? Is it possible that LeBron would actually take a pay cut to get his kid on the team? Like he did for other teammates and he decided, no, I'm not going to take a pay cut. Not a dime. He will not give up a dime. It's just incredible.

And then you have the new interpretation of Dune. Well, the first time around was so great. Right. I don't remember. What happened in Dune? What was the, well, that movie was horrible? What happened was it was like eight hours long, I think. I can remember correctly.

And what they did was they put a camera on a sand dune. Okay. And then they showed that for eight and a half hours. It was really good. Was there any humans? Some people said it was slow. Not for me. Not for you.

No. That's about what happened in the dune. But this one looks pretty good. Yeah, I mean. The previews are interesting. There's also a prequel, I believe, of the Sopranos series. I hope so. I hope they finally put that together.

Yeah. Something about Newark is in the title. Yeah. And look, the Sopranos are still strong for HBO, right? I mean, they have those up. Yeah. Oh, people still love it. Yeah.

I mean, there's some episodes during the series that you always have to go back to and watch. Season five, you know, the final episode was awesome. Stuff like that. One thing I know from listening to Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher podcast you can get right now, if you're subscribing to podcasts at this moment, is you went over the, the transatlant. transportation numbers with the TSA and how yeah what was the do you remember the details of that well some of the details they actually went up over the holidays they had like three or four days that actually broke a million through the turnstile so a

million that was it were who went through TSA security and what was it before the whole pandemic they well the lowest it got down to was 86,000 six thousand from what during two million or something right right that was in the heat of the pandemic normal numbers going over two million and then It started going to a couple hundred thousand, three hundred thousand. We're back up to about between six and nine hundred thousand. So it dropped off by over 90%. But it was two and a half million.

Yeah, two and a half to three million every day. And then has bounced back to roughly half right now. It's interesting to look at the theaters, which we're doing about $200 million a week in the theaters. Not that long ago. In February 14th through the 20th, they did $215 million in theaters. that dropped off to like, you know, it was March 6th, the week of March 6th, it went to 134 million. Then the next week went to 58 million. The next week went to $5,632.

Oh, that's incredible. They were celebrating crudes. Yeah, right. Release over the Thanksgiving holiday. Made 14. Yeah, globally. 14 million. That's what I was going to say here.

So it went down to like, you know, $5,000 for a few weeks. Then eventually, you know, once we got out of the six weeks to. you know, to stop the spread or whatever. A few opened up, got up to like 100,000, got it to like 500,000 through the summer. Finally broke a million in August. So again, think of how long that is. Then 3 million, 8 million, 16 million, 30 million in September 4th.

And then it started kind of getting the flare up again. Closing them back down again. Went the other way. 14 million, 13 million. And it's been right around between 11 and 14 million for the past two months. That's still a 90% drop off. And let me give you what's in a really nice theater near us right now.

Die hard. Okay, we can see that at home. It's a Christmas movie, by the way. Same with Dr. Seuss, the Grinch. Okay? Yeah. Love actually. Jeez.

Here's a new one. All my life. Never heard of it. Don't know these people. Elf is showing the crudes. Let him go. And the war with grandpa. You forgot one huge movie that's released.

that's been released for the next started today, I think, maybe yesterday, and through the weekend, the Elvis remastered. That's the way it is movie, okay? Thank you for that reminder. Jeffie, that was egregious that I left that off the list. Word, just a few minutes. Really wasn't egregious. Just so you're aware.

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that is, I mean, I think you're seeing a lot of this reaction to the ridiculous overreaches by these blue state governors largely and mayors. And they are, you're seeing a lot of it come from restaurants and bars. And it's weird because they're just like the public face of this. It's interesting in that, you know, restaurants have seen real devastation bars, obviously even worse. I mean, a state like Texas, because we had this metric set up of 15% of the hospitals filled with COVID patients. means you go to, I think, 50% capacity in restaurants and bars close, I think is the way it works. There's so many restrictions and weird things like this. Like, it's hard to keep track of.

But so, you know, that's happened a lot and they've been kind of the public face. You think about some of these industries, though, that have totally gone away. I mean, like concerts. Right. You know, concert. We have Eric July, who's a Blaze TV contributor. Love Eric. And he comes in for the news and why it matters.

He's been on this show. My show's due does America. I'm sure Pat Gray unleashed as well. And he talks, he's a musician. He's a singer for a band, you know, and that whole business is just dissolved. Yeah. Like if you go to a concert venue, basically you're just turned things off for the year. And the thing about that is that for these bands, that's now how they make their money.

The concerts are far more lucrative than the record sales because the digital record industry has just pretty much destroyed the massive amounts of money they were making from that. So they're not making the big bucks with the recordings anymore. They're making the big dollars at the concert venue. And now they don't have that. Just gone. So then what do you do? Yeah, then what? I mean, you know, we talk about professional sports.

Obviously, you see these professional sports leagues who have gone from, I mean, you watch the games, you watch an NFL week of games, you know, half the games have zero fans and half the games have, you know, maybe 10 or 20% of the fans. I mean, they're talking about the Super Bowl at, I think 20% capacity. It's something like 15,000 people, supposedly, in the stadium, which I can't imagine what these tickets are going to cost. But you look at all that. What about minor league teams? You know, what about, what about like the, you know, here, I think this is around the country. I've been to them with the kids and other places as well, but they have the like trampoline parks and like these indoor sort of like, almost like indoor amusement

parks in some ways where they have trampoline parks and they have like all these cool things for kids to do, go carts and, you know, all these things where people are sharing the same space and doing physical activity or whatever indoors. You know, I mean, we have them around us and they're open again, again, limited capacity. And we've gone to them, you know, several times. But The crowd is one-tenth of what it was. How do these places stay open? I don't know. Well, they're dealing with this, of course, at restaurants quite a bit.

There's a California chef, TV personality, Andrew Gruel, which is a weird name for maybe it's Gruel. It's probably more. Maybe it's Gruel. I don't know the guy. But he was talking about the madness of these lockdowns and these restrictions. Listen. Here's the situation.

Do we take the pandemic seriously? Of course we do. Am I saying that we shouldn't close out? Dining? Yes, I am. At every single juncture along the way here from the beginning shut down to today, we've listened to all of the advice from our government officials only to be shut down over and over and over again and then not compensated for the elements that we put in place in our businesses in order to protect our customers. We shut down indoor dining. No problem. I got a warehouse full of Plexiglass right now. Okay. We went outdoors. All right? Now that's getting

shut down. I just put thousands of dollars into outdoor heaters. There is zero scientific evidence that proves that outdoor dining is contributing to a rise in cases related to this. I can go get a pink cockatoo for my Christmas tree, but I can't go and dine outdoors at a restaurant. I can go to Target. Amazon's making tons of money. All big business is getting rich. Okay, outdoor dining does not lead to any of that. Therefore, screw that. We're staying open. Outdoors. It's that simple. Wow. That's great. And he's right on all of that, all of it. There is no evidence that says that outdoor dining leads to major transmission. I mean, it's very, very unlikely that you're going to get it at doing outdoor dining.

And you're killing these businesses because you're not only telling them they can't have customers, which is already a really big deal. But, and I've heard this from restaurant owner after restaurant owner, they are, you're doing these things to please the government, like putting plexiglass up and all these separators. And to make, honestly, some of the people who come to your restaurant who are scared feel better. Some of them might be effective. Some of them don't do much of anything. They're just feel good measures.

And you're spending all of this cash to do this. And then at the end of the day, the government doesn't come back and say, hey, we know we asked you to shut down. We know we asked you to build these, you know, bubbles for everyone to sit in so they can basically, everyone can live inside of plastic wrap. We know you spend a fortune on that. here's some cash for that. Now, there have been some programs that have helped with shutdowns. We know the PPP and there's going to be another stimulus package that comes here in the next couple of months at least.

It's either going to be probably very soon or, you know, late January, early February. But that's going to be another trillion dollars. And some of that money will go to restaurant owners and other companies to be compensated for this stuff. As it should, because it is the government forcing them to shut down. Yeah, I will say. If it's a state regulation, however, that money should probably come from the state. Yeah, not the government. Not the federal government.

I think that we have this is got a, this is a little bit out of control. I mean, you have a lot of people who are laid off. And those people, you know, we have an unemployment system. There's been talk about potentially another one of these sort of stimulus bonus. Stimulus is the wrong word for this because it's not stimulus. It's, it's closer to eminent domain. The government has taken your property. It's taken your business.

It's told you to shut down. And they're supposed to compensate you for such things. You know, there's a big libertarian part of me that does not like all of this, but I do understand it in this particular circumstance at some level. When the government is responsible for your business being closed and you being on the verge of bankruptcy, then, you know, it's appropriate that they compensate you, I guess. But, yeah, so you look at industries like restaurants and movie theaters and, well, cruise. lines, when are cruises going to be acceptable again? You know, I've been seeing commercials for them lately. Really?

Are they actually open? Yeah, they're like, they're actually cruising? They're selling some cruises. They're, uh, I don't know. Most of them have, have pushed it off to 2021 sometime. Yeah, I think they might be selling future cruises and trying to get people excited about that. I was surprised to see though advertising for it at this point.

That is surprising. You know, I mean, there's like, what about this live events business? This is a whole convention business, right? Where you have these huge conventions like a comic con and, there's a ton of them. And it's like those, how are those businesses planning through this? Even if you're going to have them in the near future, you're going to have to have them in a separated circumstance where you're not getting close to people and people wearing masks.

They don't want to do that. It's not comfortable. You know, we went, they had these six weeks to stop the spread or whatever. It was two weeks and then another month. And that ended. And I think it was right after that or not soon after that in Texas. they opened up dining at 25% capacity in Texas. And it was like at the point where nothing was open.

I mean, really, I think Georgia had opened a little bit, maybe one or two other states. And South Dakota kind of did the whole time. And a couple of other states had it that way. But it was like big news at the time. And the first day it opened, we went out to a restaurant here in Texas. And it was interesting in that it wasn't fun. you know, it's one thing to say you can go to a restaurant.

It's another thing to go to a restaurant where everybody is masked around you. You can't understand them. You can't have fun. You can't go talk to somebody. You know, if you're going to a bar or whatever, you can't go talk to someone across the bar. You know, you're freaked out because you're wondering what droplets are landing on your face from fellow diners. And it's like, I think people have loosened up a little bit since then, right? and we've had, we've been dealing with this for a while now,

but it wasn't enjoyable. You know, the whole point of this is it's not just going out and consuming food. You can do that at home. It's an experience. And these guys work so hard to design these amazing, you know, dishes and have a great atmosphere in their restaurants. And even to work, to do it outside. And at the end of the day, it's impossible for them to provide the things that the, the people who are coming to the restaurants actually want. Yeah.

You know, you really just have. hampered this economy to a level that is, I mean, we certainly never lived through anything like this before. My favorite hamburger place in all of Texas, twisted route, still, still closed. They've been closed and they're continuing to be closed in most of their locations. I think in Shreveport, Louisiana or someplace, they've got a couple of restaurants open, but all of the restaurants in the DFW area still closed. and I think they've even filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy. So, I mean, I don't know how people are surviving it.

I don't know what you're doing for livelihood. But when you once had such a successful operation that you have, that you now have restaurants all over the place, you've gone from one to 20 or 30 or whatever. And now you've had to be closed all this time. It just devastated your business. So how do you ever? How do you ever get that back?

You just can't. And the government can't. make everybody whole. Everybody who has declared bankruptcy and who has shut down, they're not all going to be made whole again by the U.S. government or a state government. It's just not possible. It can't happen. So this is a tragedy.

And I really feel for people who've lost their livelihoods like that. It's really a shame. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And don't forget, rate us on iTunes. Yesterday. But just as a reminder, here's what Joe Biden is saying. about your holiday season that's coming up because, you know, everything's got to change now, right? We, you didn't, you couldn't have anybody over for, for Thanksgiving, uh, well, even more so for

Christmas. I hope you all are listening as with all the trouble you're going through. You cannot be traveling during these holidays. You got that? As much as you want to, I, I have a large family. Okay. We are, you probably, you, uh, I used to kidding me about it. I mean, everything for me's family, beginning, middle, and then.

When one comes, everybody. come. Do you think I'm joking? I'm not. Why would I think he's joking? That is such a weird thing that he does all the time. You think I'm joking. I'm not joking. No, nobody thinks you're joking. Why do you always say that? I don't know. It's like a weird tick he has. Uh-huh. He throws it into sentences all the time when everyone's sitting there like, they're not laughing. They're bored. That's a totally different thing. I don't even care, let alone think you're joking. People go away every Thanksgiving. My deceased son before he passed away. we'd all go away and we'd go away on Thanksgiving to be just a nuclear family.

Mom, dad, sons, daughters, husbands, wives, grandchildren. Cousins? And we, the first time, we had a, we had Thanksgiving with my wife and myself. My daughter in the region and her husband who's a doctor in the region. That's it. All my other kids, everybody else in the family was on Zoom on Thanksgiving, which doesn't, well, Christmas is going to be a lot harder. And, you know, I want to scare anybody here, but understand the facts.

I love this. Here we go. He's not a fearmonger. It's Republicans at fearmonger. He doesn't want to scare anybody, but we're likely to lose another 250,000 people dead between now and January. Okay, that's okay. It's a lot. He doesn't want to scare anybody, but we are likely to have a quarter of a million people dead between now and January. Now, January is in, uh, what, 26 days? 28 days. It's just December 4th. Yeah. Okay.

So 28 days. So you're basically looking at about 10K a day, which would be high. No, it would be high. We've never cleared 3,000 in a day. Yeah, it's 2,700 right now. Right. And it's, you know, we probably will break those records and it, you know, over the next few weeks. I mean, it probably will happen.

It is very widespread right now. But will it go to 10,000 a day. I'm going to go to 10,000. I will be very surprised if it hits that number. I think so. So I was trying to figure out where he got this number from. We were joking about this in the break. I'm like, it's possible he could say globally, 10,000 people a day will die, which is about the level we're at now.

Is he trying to say that? If you look at some of these estimates, he says from now until January, does that mean he, do you give him January? Like, I mean, until January, to me, says till December 31st, right? I mean, if you include January in the estimates and take the worst estimates. You go all the way to January January 31st and you take the worst case scenario, you might be able to get there. Oh, really?

Yeah, I mean, like if you're at, if the worst possible thing happens and you will get, which is really stretching to give him all of January. I mean, he said until January. I mean, I don't think you could do that. More likely, he just screwed it up. Because if we give him till January 31st, well, now we've given him till February is how that would be,

right? Right until February. You would have to, in order for him to be correct, you would have to say until February. But like that University of Washington model says that that's possible. Now, of course, that also means that there's no vaccine, right? Yeah. Like if you have a vaccine that inoculates 30 million people by that time, I mean, the number's going to be a lot different. But don't they also say if you have to relax restrictions in order to do that? And it's going the other way. Yeah, think about that's a great point. I mean, think about what that means. It says, It's an estimate that it revolves around easing mandates. We are not, we are doing these exact opposite. People are adding new mandates.

Yeah. Now, the effect of mandates is very overblown, very overblown. You go and look at the mask mandate states. Forget even whether the masks work or not for a second. Just throw that away for a second. Just look at what happens in states with mask mandates and states without mask mandates. What's the difference in percentage of people who actually wear masks? It's like 15%.

I want to say it's like in a state like South Dakota, about 65% of people are wearing masks regularly. Even when there's not a mandate. And in like Washington, D.C. was I think the highest. It was something like 80% of people were wearing masks, even though there is a mandate. Not everyone listens, right? And the same in South Dakota.

A lot of people are wearing masks just because they think it might be helpful, right? And let's just wear them. You know, sometimes they're mandated in stores. You know, there's other reasons. But like, when you look at statewide policy, there are really good personal liberty reasons to argue about those things. When it comes to pragmatic actual effects, people generally speaking make their own decisions. They make their own decisions. And they're going to err on the side of being cautious.

Yeah. I mean, like, usually. The mass thing is interesting because you could look at a lot of the studies. Some show very little benefit for masks. Some show decent benefit for masks. Nothing shows it's not a panacea. there is no it's not a cure for COVID it like even the best the most optimistic studies on mass will show like you might cut your chance of getting of it spreading by like 50% which is

something that's significant but when it's not when you're talking about not not letting people make their own personal choice and instead throwing a mandate on their head right the standard for a government to mandate something should be really high like I don't want any of it. But even if you do want mandates, it should be incredibly high bar you have to clear as far as benefit. On the other side, for your personal use, it should be pretty low. Like, if you think there's a 10% chance that it'll help, and it's not really going to interrupt your life too much, you probably are going to do it. That's why a lot of people are, you know, they're doing their dinners outside. They're standing, you know, they're standing a few feet away from each other. Even

if they don't necessarily, they don't necessarily worry themselves, they'll take some steps. Yeah. You know, and that's a much more sensible way for a country to deal with it. You know, get people reliable information, let people say, hey, this might help. Might not. But, you know, hey, if you want to take some steps that might help, I think most people would say that. Right. Like, if you have a safety feature on your car that might help in a few percent of cases,

all things being equal, you'd probably throw it on your car if it's cheap. If it's really expensive, you won't. You know, that's how you make decisions. You were able to take a car. cost-benefit analysis and look at how your risk, you know, is in life. And you try to judge that risk. That's how we all live. It's why we go 65 in the highway and not three.

Because if we went three, we wouldn't die in car accidents ever. We also don't go 170. You know, whether the mandate is there or not. Now, Pat, of course, does go 170. That's why he gets 15 speeding tickets a week. Yeah, once in a while. Do 170, 175, something like that. Yeah, but that's, but you're not in the norm on that one.

No, no. Probably not. Oh