The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | 12/8/22

Episode Date: December 8, 2022

WNBA player Brittney Griner has been released from Russian prison after the U.S. government traded for her release the release of Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout, also known as the “Merchant of Deat...h.” But what about Paul Whelan’s release? Is popular doll manufacturer “American Girl” now advocating for gender transitioning for girls as young as 3? Pat and Stu go through all the female action leads after actress Jennifer Lawrence claimed she was the first. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:22 Pat and Stufer Glenn, who is still a little bit under the weather. The breaking news on Brittany Greiner. She's been released now. Yeah. She's coming home. Yep. Coming home, be home for Christmas. Exchange her for the merchant of
Starting point is 00:02:40 Jeff. It's just so good. Isn't it great? It's so good. I mean, could you possibly, we've traded the merchant of death for a WNBA player. Which makes,
Starting point is 00:02:54 now look, first off, I want Brittany Greiner back in the United States. There's no doubt about it. Many times. Many times. I want her back. I'm glad she's coming home.
Starting point is 00:03:03 That is a good part of the story. And I'm glad even though she was, I don't know, in favor of the kneeling or whatever it was. Yeah, I don't care. Back in the day. care what her opinion. She's an American citizen. She's an American citizen. She,
Starting point is 00:03:14 like, I don't know. We don't know the truth whether she was guilty or not, but there's a good chance she wasn't guilty. She may have been guilty. But either, regardless, the punishment does not fit the crime. Not at all. And obviously the Russians were holding her as a chip to hurt us as this is going on. So we understand that, and I'm glad she's coming home. The reason why I don't think it's worth focusing on that, entirely is because everybody agrees on it. Everybody wants Britney Griner to be here instead of in a Russian, you know, death camp somewhere in Siberia.
Starting point is 00:03:48 So we all get that. Obviously, there was a priority and they should have been negotiating for her release. Sure. The next part of that, Pat, is the merchant of death. Yeah. Okay? Yeah. Now, the merchant of death is he's an arms dealer.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And the reason I know a good amount about the merchant of death, and I will say, there's a chance some of the stuff I know about the Merchant of Death is false and the reason for that is because Lord of War is one of my favorite movies. It's a Nicholas Cage movie. It's an obscure
Starting point is 00:04:22 Nicholas Cage movie and I love it. It's a great great movie if you've never seen it. Now of course it's got all sorts of liberal messaging throughout. It's a very anti-gun, it's very anti-war blah blah blah blah but it's a great freaking movie and it's the story of this guy
Starting point is 00:04:38 now they name him something else because they want to take a little liberty with a story. It's based on him. It's based on a true story. But this guy was an, he was kind of a low level guy, trying to be an arms dealer, rose up the ranks of this illicit arms dealer world. And one of his big innovations in this, in this moment was at the fall of the Soviet Union, he kind of took advantage of the chaos. He went in and negotiated with some. of his, he was Ukrainian, I believe, and some of his relatives and people he knew that had high-ranking military positions in the old Soviet army. Soviet Union falls. They're now
Starting point is 00:05:22 there with giant stockpiles of weapons. The record keeping's not there anymore. There's no oversight anymore from the Soviets. It's over. It's dissolving. So he comes in and buys tons and tons of weapons, pennies on the dollar, and then resells them to like African civil wars, and he just rakes in the cash. And he goes through, you know, a period where, you know, his brother is involved, and he, you know, dies and has a huge drug problem. And he get, then this guy gets, the merchant of death gets a big drug problem going, marries a supermodel, goes through, I mean, it's an incredible story.
Starting point is 00:06:03 It really is worthy of a, of a, a movie. Yes, even a Nicholas Cage movie. It's worthy of a Nicholas Gage movie. And this guy did all sorts of things. I mean, he was responsible for God only knows how many deaths. He was fun, you know, the Liberian Civil War was one of his big targets. This is back when Charles Taylor was in charge there and was absolutely brutal. And he would funnel weapons to these wars, sometimes both sides of the war. just to sell more and more weapons and enrich himself. This is a guy who, you know, probably now is loved in Russia
Starting point is 00:06:44 because he really, you know, emptied the coffers of the Ukrainian army to sell a bunch of stuff of his own down in other parts of the world. He was almost caught a million times, eventually was caught in, I think it was in New York, and was put into prison and should remain there forever. that's how this story should end. Instead, he's on a flight back to Russia. And we're getting a solid center with good post-up abilities. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:18 It's a weird trade. It is. It is a weird trade. Look, I'm happy that Britney Griner is coming in. But then there's another layer of this patent, which is, look, do I want Britney Griner back? We've already answered that question. Yes, I do. I don't care about her WMBA career at all.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I don't know much about her. I don't care that she's in the WMBA. I don't care about the WMBA. But she's an American citizen. I would like her back. However, Paul Whelan's also an American citizen. And he's been over there for decades. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And for some reason, we got Brittany Greiner out and not him. Now, you might say we only had a one-for-one trade, and that might be the answer to this. but like, I know from a chivalry standpoint, I can make an argument, okay, even though he's had a much longer road in Russian detention, we still go with, we go with a woman for chivalry reasons. You can talk to me about that, but Joe Biden can't make that argument. He can't even tell what a woman is. This entire side of our political spectrum can't define what a woman even is. So you can't make the chivalry argument here.
Starting point is 00:08:28 If you can't make that argument, what argument is there to bring British? Griner back instead of Paul Whelan. What argument is there? She had CBD and he's accused of being a spy. Well, I mean, maybe that. Maybe. Maybe that's true. But I mean, they have already indicated. I don't buy that.
Starting point is 00:08:46 First of all, he's not a spy. He should be clear. He's definitely not a spy. That's total BS from Russia. But you know, you can understand that from a Russian perspective that they'd rather release her. And maybe that's, maybe that's part of it. I don't, they've already indicated.
Starting point is 00:09:02 that they would negotiate on this point in back channels. At least there's been a lot of reporting on that. And really, you could exchange a spy for a spy, too. We've got people who are held here that we believe were Russian spies, and they probably were. Yeah. But exchange for this guy, I'd be in total favor of a prisoner exchange in that eventuality. For Paul Whelan?
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yeah. Yeah. A one-for-one exchange, spy for spy for spy. Sure. I mean, well, it's ridiculous to say this because he's not a spy. He's not. But I, you know, again, I sort of understand that. And I am, I really want the American citizens that are in captivity over there back. Like, it's a high priority. We should be focusing on it. We should have people on it. You know, the same thing happened in North Korea. We saw activity there with the Trump administration. I mean, he focused on this a lot, this type of, and he, you know, also tried to get several, uh, captives back from Russia. It's good to see that this is happening. But it just, I mean, maybe I'm being,
Starting point is 00:10:10 maybe you're pushing back here, Pat, and I'm being too skeptical on this. Maybe. Maybe I'm wrong. But like, doesn't it feel like the only reason Brittany Griner is coming back instead of Paul Whelan is that she's famous? It does.
Starting point is 00:10:24 It does. Am I too cynical on this? No, I think that's probably accurate. It's got a lot more publicity. Right. No one knows who Paul Whelan is. Right. He's been sitting over there for a million years and only his parents seem to care about it.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Mm-hmm. And they've been trying to go to the media forever. And every once in a while you see a profile story and the story goes away. Brittany Griner is somebody that is in, you know, has some level of public profile. And I don't know. I mean, it just seems like this is just a play by the Biden administration to bring back a celebrity. Which again, I'm happy she's coming back. But like it does not seem like this is a pure decision.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And I'm just, I'm looking here. I couldn't remember when he was incarcerated. It was 2020. So he's been, he's been over there for about two and a half years. Okay. In jail for two and a half years. I may have got him confused with another one guy.
Starting point is 00:11:20 He's sentenced, though, to 16. So, she was sentenced to what, 10? Yeah, nine or 10. This indicates that they don't even believe he's a spy. Right. The Russian government is not, If they thought he was a spy, they wouldn't sentence him to 16 years and Britney Griner 10 for CBD. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Like, come on. Yeah. We all know that that's, that's ridiculous. They don't even believe he's a spy. Look, these people are chips. They're negotiating chips for the Russians. And that's almost always the case in these situations. And I don't believe, I frankly don't necessarily, you know, believe that Britney Griner even did anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I mean, I think there's a good chance she didn't. Now, there's a chance that she did. Obviously, like, we don't think. think of, it wasn't even CBD. It was supposedly something elevated from that, I believe, was the accusation. It was, you know, the, it was, I think the argument was at the time that she was using, like, you know, how you'd use medical marijuana for, for pain management, you know, like that was the argument at the time. Now, God only knows what's right and what's wrong here. You know, she'll come back and she'll tell. Oh, it's hashish, right. Man, there we go.
Starting point is 00:12:27 there you go. So, you know, that probably is a crime there. Was she actually doing it? It's possible, right? I mean, she might look at this and be like, yeah, no one's going to do anything to me in the United States for this. It's not going to be a big deal. And, you know, what are the Russians going to throw out one of these big athletes and put me in prison?
Starting point is 00:12:44 Maybe she made that calculation. But like, once the war heats up, like, that calculation's out the window. I mean, it should have been out the window at the beginning. But it really makes no sense once the war, you know, battle. and the buildup to the war starts. Obviously, they wanted revenge on us, and I think that's quite clear what was going on here, especially when you come to the punishment angle of it, right?
Starting point is 00:13:08 Like, it's one thing to get in trouble for a crime in a foreign country. This does happen to people, but they didn't exactly go light on her. Like, ah, Russian prison came. Ten years. You know, it seems a little over the top. A little bit, yeah. And that's why there was outrage over it,
Starting point is 00:13:25 and there should be. and there should have been. But it did take them, took them a long time to get her out. I mean, she should have been out. If Trump were in office, I think she would have been out. Well, she might not have even been arrested, frankly.
Starting point is 00:13:41 But if she were, I'll bet she would have been out in a week. Yeah. Instead of eight or nine months or whatever it's been. That's probably true. I do think he would have focused on it. He also had a different relationship with them. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I mean, it would have been interesting. to see what happened in that in that case because obviously Trump's Russia policy was much, much harsher on Russia than Obama's policy was on Russia. By far. I mean, it wasn't even close. He said things that were nice about Putin from time to time. And everyone's like, oh, wow, he just loves Vladimir Putin.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And then you look at his policy and you're like, wait a minute, it doesn't seem like he likes Vladimir Putin that much. There never seemed to be much love policy wise. He was not soft on Russia. No. At all. The reverse of that. At all. I mean, he reversed soft Russia policies that Obama had put into place. Yeah. You know, and I mean, I guess the, I guess the left-wing argument to that is, well, those are just the people around him.
Starting point is 00:14:39 You know, he had people like John Bolton around him who were obviously more hawkish. And, you know, so maybe that was it. He just agreed to what everyone around him was telling him. But I don't know. I think that's what everyone likes to do with Donald Trump. When it's a policy that they like, they just say, oh, well, all the people around him are. doing it and when it's a policy they don't like then it's him by himself doing all
Starting point is 00:14:59 making all the decisions that's just how this works with Donald Trump he deserves credit for his his Russia policy it was harsh and he was actually holding red lines unlike the previous administration it would have been interesting to see what does this war even happen
Starting point is 00:15:15 if Trump is in office yeah my guess is no my guess is no this is the best of the Glenn Beck program okay so the Popular dollmaker American Girl has some advice for your kids. They've got a guidebook that they put together.
Starting point is 00:15:41 That's great. Yeah, it's great. And it's only $13. Well, it's $12.99. Okay. So it's not as expensive as I was leading on. It's only $12.99. And it has some great advice for children struggling with body image issues.
Starting point is 00:15:57 And it suggests they ask their doctors for puberty blocking medication and to seek transgender Gender support without parental consent. If you don't have an adult you can trust in your life. What on earth? Don't you get all your really serious life advice from doll manufacturers, from doll companies? Most of it. Most of my stuff comes from, you know, when I really have a hard issue, it's usually American girl, a doll manufacturer.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah, when I was concerned about compounding interest, I went to a sex doll company. Oh, you did? Yeah, and I was like, what should I do with my mortgage right now? What's going on with that? What was their advice? Their advice was, well, I can't say their advice. It was X-rated. They swore at me a bunch of times.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Wow. Yeah, it was weird. Anyway, that is always where I go. Well, American Girl has put out a smart girl's guide, body image book. And it's on the website, again, for just $12.99. You know, if you're struggling, your kids are struggling, this is right where you go. The cover of the 96 page. It's a 96-page paperback.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Wow. It shows four girls of varying body weights and skin colors. One's in a wheelchair. Another has blue-died hair. And the subtitle reads, How to Love Yourself. Live life to the fullest and celebrate all kinds of bodies. You know, and then it tells you if you're struggling,
Starting point is 00:17:29 if you're not comfortable with a part of your body, then, you know, you should go get some some puberty blockers from your doctor and that way you'll have a couple of years to decide whether you're comfortable with your body or if you want to change it, you know, through surgery.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Can you believe this? It's unbelievable. I mean, American girl dolls, we bought all of our girls, American girl dolls. They loved them. And now they're doing this with our kids.
Starting point is 00:18:02 So this is, is interesting, Pat, because I have small kids, younger kids, and they, my daughter has... Is Ainsley a fan of American girl? Has, you know, tons of stuff. She's, you know, for presents and stuff
Starting point is 00:18:16 she's bought with her own money. Like, you know, she's even got the Jeep, Pat. She has the entire... I didn't know there was an American Girl Jeep. Great Jeep. Really? You want to get the Jeep. It's fantastic. Is it one that it's big enough for her to ride in it? Yeah. No, no, she's not that big. It's for the adult's to ride it.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Yes. Okay. All right. So then that's a very standard experience. I will say, as your kids get older, you have to talk to them about some things that are going on in their lives, right? Some changes that may be coming up soon. Right. Not like gender transition changes, but just the changes that every boy or girl go through. The normal changes, yeah, that they all go through. And if you are a parent, you know that that can be a little strange and challenging.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Yeah. And so what do you do in that situation? this is unbelievable. You go and you look for resources, right, to kind of help you walk through it. Maybe a book that you can read to your kids. So I went through a bunch of like conservative reviews of these types of books because I was worried about, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:19 what woke nonsense they would slip into these things, right? And when I went through this, one of the ones recommended by all sorts of conservatives, religious people, all sorts of, were the American girl doll series. Oh, you gotta be kidding. A series of all sorts of books like this,
Starting point is 00:19:38 not just about gender transition at all, but just like, okay, puberty, right? Like, you're getting older, like these are the types of things. You're gonna get, you know, hair under your arms, right? Like, stuff like that. Yeah. Just to kind of let people, the kids know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:19:52 And so I read these, the books from this company about the basics, Yeah. And they don't have any sign of this kind of stuff. Of this kind of stuff in there. So this has got to be new. I mean, this is not a book that I saw, the body image one, how to love yourself life to the close.
Starting point is 00:20:10 It says it's a newly released book. So they're going down this road. The targets kids tan and older. And it says parts of your body may make you feel uncomfortable. And you may want to change the way you look. Wait, stop for a second. That's totally okay. Stop for a second.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Mm-hmm. that is totally okay. Every single person on earth has parts of their body that make them uncomfortable. You know, I can tell you my gut is one of them. Yeah. I've got to reveal the transition. I would like to transition into a thin person. So it doesn't seem to be happening, but I would like it.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Yeah. So and what was the second part of that, that you should be comfortable in your body? You know, yeah. It's totally okay if you're uncomfortable. Yeah. And you want to change the way you look. That's fine. Yes, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:20:58 if you want to change the way you look. It's so funny because when when you are overweight and you want to lose weight, they say actually fat pride. You should, every one is perfect. Everyone is perfect and that's okay. No matter how you are, you were made that way.
Starting point is 00:21:16 You were born that way and you're perfect and you should never want to change. No, I was not born. I was not born fat. That is not true. No, I ate to get that way. I was eight pounds, seven ounces. I transitioned into a fat person.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And I've really let myself go since then. I am way more than eight pounds, seven ounces. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I was going to say. Way more. It looked like you put on a few since then. I have.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Since birth. Yeah. I have. You really have. But like that is, they're taking advantage of a really normal human instinct to say, you know, I'd like to look a little bit better. Gosh, I hate the way I look in this way. Everyone goes through that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 You should be able to take that rationally and in context and maybe make some changes that would make you more healthy, not cut off your. parts because you don't like them. Right. That's a different pitch. Or start taking life-altering medication that can stop the natural process of your body. I mean, that's really dangerous. And doctors who are honest are starting to really speak out about that, fortunately, that,
Starting point is 00:22:16 hey, it's not necessarily just this just delays things for a while and then you're going to be fine if you stop taking them. It could cause real problems for you. but they continue in another part of the book you can appreciate your body for everything it allows you to experience and still want to change certain things about it if you haven't gone through puberty yet the doctor might offer medication
Starting point is 00:22:39 to delay your body's changes giving you more time to think about your gender identity this is a doll company and I guess like it is important yes it's a doll company But like they're bringing in experts in these fields to write these books. I'm sure. Like this is actually a part of their company.
Starting point is 00:23:01 So bad. And, you know, a lot of the stuff that they have is totally, I think would be cool with. Yeah, you liked it. It was fine. And it was very, what I liked about it is it didn't get into a lot of those like advanced questions. It was like, okay, here's how the body changes as you get older. Hey, make sure you put on deodorant kid, you know, so because you're going to start stinking really soon. It was stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Wow. Which is, you know, helpful for parents to bring them through. And that's what I think scary about this. And I think this is maybe the scariest part. If you don't have an adult you trust, like your parents, I guess, who probably bought you this book. Uh-huh. There are organizations across the country that can help you. Turn to the resources on page 95 for more information.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I don't know what resources are on page 95. It's absolutely unbelievable. It's incredible to me. Here, I have some, so this is also some other stuff from the book. The way you show your gender to the world through clothes and behavior is your gender expression. No, it's not. Can we, is it, forget even how ridiculous it is to try to change your gender. That is not a description of what gender is.
Starting point is 00:24:10 The way you wear your clothes? No. The way you wear your clothes is your style. That's what that is. We have words for these things already. It has nothing to do with gender. How bizarre is that that? Your genitalia has nothing to do with your gender, but your clothes do now.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Like, you can't tell anything about the gender of a child from whether they've got a hoo-ha or, what's the other one you use? A man unit? A man-unit or a hoo-ha. You can't tell. However, you can tell if this is a quote from the book, your gender expression can be feminine, masculine, or somewhere in between and might change. Maybe you'll experiment with bright dresses and long feminine hairstyles. Or you might try baggy shorts, plaid shirts, and. a buzzed haircut.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Huh. Your gender expression should make you feel at home in your body. You don't have a choice whether you'd be at home in your body or not. Even if you alter it with surgery,
Starting point is 00:25:05 you're still at home in your body. Being at home in your body is a made-up concern. It's not a thing. If you have a problem being at home in your body, you have something that has traditionally been called
Starting point is 00:25:20 gender dysphoria, where you're having problems, medical problems, trying to understand why you feel strange in your own body. But that's not real. Your feelings are not real. You might think, because you put on cargo shorts, you're a boy, you're not. I'm sorry. Like, I, there is no reason to indulge in this nonsense.
Starting point is 00:25:50 It is, there are interesting things. things to be learned about an individual, about the choices they might wear, make in the clothes that they wear, or the way that they act, or the way they present themselves, or the hairstyle they choose. You might understand interesting parts about their personality, but there is very little societal value in this pursuit. What does it matter? Why do we care? And when we were doing the Pat and Stu Show back in the day, Pat, I remember we used to play a clip from Ellen DeGeneres. and you know she's a very famous obviously LGBT I don't want to say QQIA because I don't know if she advocates for those things I don't know but she was an LGBT advocate for many many years obviously
Starting point is 00:26:35 someone who really broke a lot of barriers to people in in the mainstream culture and they asked her about the transgender thing and she was trying to get let people who just couldn't grasp it understand what it was and what she said her description of the transgender thing was that gender, being a transgender person, gender is a feeling that you feel in your brain. It's the way you feel. And like that might be interesting if your sister's going through that, it might be interesting to try to understand how they feel in their brain. But when we're talking about when you go into a hospital and you need to find out if you
Starting point is 00:27:15 have ovaries or not, none of that matters. Your feelings don't concern anyone. They're not important. Full stop. They are not important. They are not important when it comes to that. It might be interesting to try to understand them from a physician's standpoint. It might be interesting from a cultural standpoint or in a societal standpoint.
Starting point is 00:27:37 You might say, wow, that's an interesting quirk. Why does that happen? What does it mean? But it does not have value when it comes to policy. It does not have value there at all. what is important is whether it's a man or a woman, a boy or a girl, male or female, that is what is important. That's what needs to be on government forms.
Starting point is 00:27:58 How you feel in your brain does not need to be on a government form. And it certainly does not need to be explained to a 10-year-old who is already so confused by the freaking Chinese Communist Party through TikTok that they're trying to do this stuff and trying to justify keeping it away from their parents. That's really bad. It is really bad. The Best of the Glenn Beck program. Pat and Stufer Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Actress Jennifer Lawrence. She says some stupid things. Yeah, she's not the brightest bulb. Not bright. And, you know, incredibly progressive, liberal. But this is a weird comment. Sort of demeaning all of the women who've done action movies that came before her. She just said, I remember when I was doing hunger games,
Starting point is 00:28:52 nobody had ever put a woman in the lead of an action movie because it wouldn't work. Would not work. No one had ever thought about it. Yeah, nobody had ever thought about it, I don't think. Until Jennifer Lawrence, of course, in 2012 with Hunger Games. We were told girls and boys can both identify with a male lead, but boys cannot identify with a female lead. Viola Davis, who's doing the interview of her replies, oh, absolutely. Good, good pushback there on that one.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah. You know. Oh, we do have it? All right. Let's see that. And hear it. I remember when I was doing Hunger Games, nobody had ever put a woman in the lead of an action movie
Starting point is 00:29:32 because it wouldn't work. We were told. Girls and boys can both identify with a male lead. But boys cannot identify with a female lead. Oh, absolutely. And it just makes me so happy every single time I see a movie come out that just blows through every single one of those beliefs. Wow, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:52 It's just not, it might have been a belief, but it was dumb. It wasn't true. It's a bad belief. What does Angelina Jolie think about this? I know. I'd like to know. There's a bunch of movies. Lots.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Where she was the lead. One was Tomb Raider. Yeah. That came well before 2012. Another was Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Yeah. I mean, that was a co, you know, more of a. It was a Brad Pitt and her kind of co-starring thing.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah. But she was great in that. Dual leads. Yeah. She was a badass in that. Yeah, I mean, she was at a bunch. I mean, Angela and Jolie has a ton of them. I mean, she's not the only one, obviously.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Let's try Sigourney Weaver, perhaps, in aliens. 1979. Is that before 2012 or? I don't know. We have to do the math on it, but I think it might be. I think there's a chance it is. There's a possibility it was before 2012. Mila Jovovich, who starred in six Resident Evil movies since 2002.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Our girl Kate Beckinsale has got to be on this list. She was in a bunch of action movies. Those vampire things. Yeah, I can't remember what the name of it was. Underworld. We should note that she doesn't know she's our girl, but she's kind of our girl. Oh, look at the way she looks at us. Yeah, you could see.
Starting point is 00:31:05 If you're watching the screen, you're like, gosh, she's looking at their longing eyes. She's looking at me and Pat. Uh-huh. That's just a thing. Yeah, looking at Angelina Jolie. Laura Croft is obviously the Tomb Raider thing. Yeah. She also had, where she was.
Starting point is 00:31:20 was the lead. Let's see, Mr. Mrs. Smith. And what was this? A salt, which was an salt. A salt. Not a salt. But salt. Yes. Salt. Yes. That's right. Not maybe her proudest moment, but it was
Starting point is 00:31:36 definitely an action movie. Wanted. Oh yeah. Which was definitely an action movie. I see that all the time on Netflix. I don't watch it, but I see it pop up. I did watch it. That's the one where you could curve the bullets, right? Is it good? Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:50 You know, I kind of did like it. It was like, it's fun. It was a little bit of a remnant of that era where everyone was like, what if we completely overproduce every scene? You know? Oh my gosh, we could do what? We could make bullets. What if every single scene has bullets curving?
Starting point is 00:32:04 It was that type of movie. Yeah. But like, in a way, it was so over the top that I really, I liked it. You know, I thought it was solid. I mean, it was, it's a little ridiculous, but it was also solid. Umma Thurman. Oh my gosh. And Kill Bill.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Kill Bill. Yeah. There was, there was, according to the article, I don't, I don't know this, Nikita in 1990. That only predates Jennifer Lawrence by, let's see, 22 years. So, I mean, Charlie's Angels, they're so many. Oh God, Charlie's Angels was three. Action movies. Female leads.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Yeah. Yeah. So many of them. I don't know where she got this or why she thinks she's the trailblazer here, but we got news for you, Jen. You're not. It seems like one of these things where Hollywood celebrities are so in their own heads thinking everything about their lives of the most important thing.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yep. And that's kind of, I think, what goes on here, right? I mean... It's embarrassing, though. Kate Beckinsale was Underworld, by the way. She was in. That was a big one. And they made a bunch of them.
Starting point is 00:33:10 You know, she could just be... How can we put Kate Beckinsale in leather pants? Give her this role. And like, look, you know, this would be, I guess, part of the critique of Jennifer Lawrence maybe. And some of these movies are maybe for older audiences. I mean, I don't know. Is there any argument that she can make?
Starting point is 00:33:25 I think, I don't think so. I don't, no, I don't think so. Now, look, are guys more common in action movies? Yeah, of course. Sure. Because, typically speaking, that is the audience. I mean, boys typically. But I will say, I have, when people ask, what's your favorite?
Starting point is 00:33:42 I actually had that, I didn't interview with a, this is a couple of years ago with a, with a conservative, um, entertainment like website. And they were like, well, what's your favorite genre of movies? There was like, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:33:55 what's my favorite genre? I just thought that was an interesting question. Like, but like, you know, my horror guy, you know, I watch a horror movie here and there,
Starting point is 00:34:01 but no. Action, not really. This is what I came up with. These are my two favorite genres of movies. They're not full genres. Number one is dramatic retellings of relatively recent historical events. that's a popular genre right there.
Starting point is 00:34:18 But it's like, you know, and you came up with that on the website? Yes. So it was, it was, they're like, anything from World War II. It took me like 40. Who lined this up with Stubergear?
Starting point is 00:34:31 They were like 40 minutes to come up with that. But I think it's true. Like, you go back to like anything from World War II on. Okay. Okay. Yep. When you take like an event, and we mentioned it earlier,
Starting point is 00:34:42 Lord of War is a perfect example. of that genre. Where like it was a real guy. This is the guy that got traded for Brittany Griner in the swap that happened today.
Starting point is 00:34:52 He was an arms dealer. Nicholas Cage plays him. It tells his story about how he got into arms dealing and all this stuff. And it's not exactly you know, 100% accurate
Starting point is 00:35:01 when it comes to that telling. It's somewhat fictionalized but it's based on a true story from relatively recent like Captain Phillips, you know. Yeah. Those types of movies I freaking love.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I do too. They're just great. And I can watch. basically any of them, especially if they're based on a true story and pretty close to it. The other one, my other favorite genre of movies is really hot actress kicking everybody's ass. I love those movies. They're just great.
Starting point is 00:35:33 And like, you know, what was the one we, Atomic Blonde was the one we talked about Charlize Theron. Charlize Theron. I love that movie. She goes around, she kicks everybody's butt, she kills a bunch of people. She looks really good doing it. That's the entire movie. It's great.
Starting point is 00:35:49 It's my favorite genre of movie. It's hard to argue with that genre. It's great. It's like these women who weigh like 118 pounds just killing like a 340 pound guy. Yeah, but they're highly trained. They're highly trained. They're highly trained. So it works and I don't care.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And all of those movies I love. And when she said that, I was like, gosh, like not only is she wrong that they've never tried this. It's an entire genre of movie. And it's my favorite genre of movie. Yep. Yep. And it predated Jennifer Lawrence by a lot. By a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:22 By a lot. It's not a close call. No, it's really not. Now, Atomic Blonde was after Hunger Games. It was, I think it was 2015. 2015. Yeah. By the way, there are plans of an Atomic Blonde 2.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Oh, really? Oh, my gosh. I'm not saying I've looked because I have many times because I want a sequel. I think my favorite genre right now is document. I don't know what it is about doc. I can't get enough of them. I don't even count that because that's, I'm a huge documentary guy. I've loved them forever.
Starting point is 00:36:53 I'll watch almost any documentary. And Netflix has about 714,000 of them. So many of them. I mean, I'm just scanning through the movies like you do on Netflix. And I thought, David Geffen has a documentary? I'm watching it. Music and movie mogul, David Geffen? Gotta see that.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yeah. And before I know it, I'm watching it. Bruce Lee. Oh my gosh, there's something on Bruce Lee. Why don't I do a deep dive into his life, which I've been on lately? A woman was killed in 1978 in suspicious circumstances and we never solved it. Wait, I've got to find out what happened to this person I never heard of. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Does the true crime stuff suck you in at all? It does. It does. Yeah, it does. Like, I don't, when they come out with new stuff, I will be, I don't necessarily jump on the bandwagon right away. but the second, I'm three minutes into it, I'm locked in for the entire series. Oh, yeah. Like, I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I've been to several of the crime con events. Do you know these things? CrimeCon. CrimeCon. It's a true crime convention. It's like the biggest true crime convention in the United States. No. And you've gone to a convention of it?
Starting point is 00:37:55 They're awesome. Oh, you're kidding me. Yeah, you know, really cool. They happen once a year, I think, you know. Here? In the DFW? No, it's all around the country. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And they're really, really cool. And they always have, like, the best, like, they'll take whatever the big Netflix series is, they have, like, like the lead attorney who was actually arguing the case and they bring them in and they tell their whole story. They have the presentation, the photos, the documents. They try to like solve the case. It's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:22 And it's one of those things. It's just a rabbit hole. Yeah. Because you start getting into the true crime stuff. There is endless content. It's all really good. It's amazing how many murders have not been solved. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:34 It's scary. You would think it's only happened a couple of times. About 80% of the murders that happen are solved. That's my impression. If you look at Netflix, I believe. if we solve 1% of all murders. It does look like that. And the ones that we do solve, we're always wrong on.
Starting point is 00:38:49 The poor people are always improperly imprisoned. That's the Netflix lesson. We don't solve any murders and when we do solve them, they're wrong. But that's another reason for another documentary. We do a documentary on the person who spent 35 years in prison wrongly accused. I'm a sucker for that stuff too. I love it. I mean, like, some of the characters are so freaking crazy and some of the stories are so crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:16 And they do what Law & Order does to you where you, no matter what their pitch is, you sort of believe it. Like, it's really hard for me to be critical when I'm watching those things. And this is, of course, why they make documentaries for political positions. Because I don't know the, I'm not an investigator. I'm not involved in the day-to-day investigations of crime. And based on the stuff they show you, they can lead you down the trail. Like, you watch these documentaries, you're like, oh my gosh, how come they won't let this guy out of prison? Right.
Starting point is 00:39:42 And then they, you like, Google it and the person's like, actually, we have film of him doing it. Wait, they didn't include that? Why? That seems like an important element that should have been in the documentary. You should have told us they had film of him doing it, like right at the beginning of the documentary, I think. They don't do that. We're going to say, in the phone, there, all the world can be a guy of the finance. Not need to have a gross mongrel in
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