The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | 4/14/23

Episode Date: April 14, 2023

Chief researcher for Glenn Beck Jason Buttrill joins Glenn to discuss the Pentagon leaker's arrest and how he obtained the documents. But what about the SCOTUS leaker or the pipe bomb planter? Glenn highlights a church in North Carolina that helped pay off residents' medical bills. Dr. Jeffrey Barrows and attorney Chris Schandevel join to discuss the legal win in New Mexico, which no longer forces doctors to assist in ending a patient's life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Enter the promo code back at checkout and get a discount on your order. promo code Beck, jacemedical.com. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Jason is the, uh, head of research for the broadcasts that I do and also the guy who watches over, you know, global problems that have anything to do with the military. And the guy who has the most illegal search history and the entire company. And that includes Jeffrey.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's really scary when you say, you know, you research something and then you go by his office and he's sitting there dark room. You're like, are you okay? And he's like, on the dark web. Think I'm finding some really good stuff. That's probably not the right words.

Good stuff on the dark web. Anyway, Jason is here because yesterday the FBI arrests the National Guardsman linked to the Pentagon Classified Documents League. Now, I saw the pictures from the sky. Can we Let's see if they match what I saw Because it didn't look like the FBI That looked a lot like

Army people Hmm Oh yeah The vehicles certainly The vehicles are Now when they were walking out They had like four rifles They were all in the camo

Is that how our FBI dresses now? Do we just not Are all norms gone Now I have to it to our FBI because this is this could have been anybody anybody in the world and they found him okay they found him this quickly congratulations now they still don't know who leaked the Dobbs decision and there's only 12 suspects there but I'm sure they're working on it I'm sure they're working on it now I brought Jason in because Jason

you were in, and I hate to say it, military intelligence. That's correct. And you were in military intelligence. So you know this stuff. Yeah. Okay. So tell us what he is accused of doing. So that...

According to the New York Times. So there was that, you know, batch of classified documents that ended up on a discord server, which gamers used to talk to each other while they play games. But it was on this Discord server. And somehow it went from the Discord server to eventually getting leaked out onto telegram places like that but these are the my first thought was when I saw this break yesterday I'm like he's 21 years old he's a national guardsman and he has access to these kinds of top secret documents how's that possible so these

kinds is very important to this story because when you look at the classified documents and yes I do have a copy of the classified documents there's a I mean I don't have a copy of it was him there's a at the top of it it'll say somewhere Eric Garland is laughing right now. Yeah. Finally. Go, go, go. All these classified documents says top secret at the top, you know, and it also has, like,

their special access program, SAP or sensitive compartmentalized information. So what that means is there's top secret, and then above that, if you get cleared, there's SCI or SAP, which means you're read into certain things. Okay. So just because you have a top secret clearance, you can't just be like, hey, I want to know who really shot John of Kennedy. It's got to be in there somewhere. You can't go searching for that type of stuff.

So wait a minute, wait a minute. He had access to this computer link. Yeah, so the computer, and this came out on the New York Times yesterday. It's been slow drip, which is very odd also from our mainstream media. But last night, the New York Times said that he pulled this information off of something called J.Wix. That stands for joint worldwide intelligence communication system. Okay. So basically what that is, is that's like an internet service provider.

That's like if you have your internet through Verizon or Comcast or something like that. So it's a secure line. Exactly. Okay, it's not a machine or anything. You plug your computer into a secure line. A J-Wix. Exactly. You can call on it. You can send text on it.

You can send email on it. Now, saying that he pulled it off a J-Wix is like, Glenn, if you have Verizon at your house, and they said, well, Glenn got this information off of Verizon Wireless. Okay. Can I have a little more context there? Was it a text? Was it an email? Was he surfing for it on the internet?

What? So Jaywicks is just the system. Okay. So if you got onto that system, though, does it have like a Google page at the front? You're like, Kennedy assassination. And it pops up the information. Classified details in Ukraine. No.

And it popped. No, no, no. Okay. And I'm going to try and tell this with some context that I don't get arrested by an FBI SWAT team. Oh, they're already here. They're probably, is that? Let's look out there.

So on that there's, they park out front. So, yeah, they're just kind of there all the time waiting. I've got a fast vehicle. I'm going to use it if I have to. Here's the thing. This is the honest truth.

So you know when they come and haul them away, I'm on record saying this. I have nothing to do with this. No. Jason has worked for me for years and has never, ever, ever diver. Not that you have a bunch of stuff, but you've never diverged or developed. divulge any kind of classified information in any aspect of anybody's life.

And also, the system is designed so that I really can't. The system is designed so that a 20-year-old enlisted kid can't get his hands on everything and anything. It's designed that way. But what you're just describing, like, go to a Google page, whatever, there is something on the J-Wix called Intel Link. So Intel Link is basically, that's like the Internet, right? Or that's basically like the computers that are all linked together.

There would, it'd be more, I guess it's more better to describe it as like an intranet. You know, there's a place where you can click on and there's like a group of things here. I mean, like that. Is there like a Wikipedia for secrets? There is. There is a Wikipedia. It's called Intellipedia. That's for top secret nerds to like say, basically they build like Wikipedia style pages. Okay, so wait.

Would this National Guardsman, he is with a hundred and second intelligence wing, he's 21 years old. Would he have access to Intellipedipedia? Yes, I think yes, he would be able to access Intellipedia. I had a top secret SCI clearance, which is as high as it gets in the military. I would be able to go into the SCIF, the facility where this stuff is at. And I could get onto one of these terminals that's hooked up to JWix, and I could go to Intellipedia if I wanted to. But the information is a lot more broad there. So it's basically just a bunch of nerds being like, this is what we're seeing in Ukraine.

This is what we think should happen. It's not like... It's not these documents. No, no. It's not... Here are the locations of every single Western Special Forces team. That would be SCI or SAP. Meaning you have to be read into that.

You have to have a special login to send that information to and from terminals on the J-Wix. Let's just say that, I don't know. The Capitol Police were searching for something. And they just happened to walk out of the room. room and it was there on the screen. Just any way to get it on the screen. Could he print it or take a picture of it? He could take a picture of it.

He could take a picture of it on the computer, but that's not what happened. He printed it off and then took a picture of it. So how could you couldn't have printed it off in the skiff? There would be a, you could, but there would be a record that someone printed that off in the skiff. In the skiff. One of the ways they were, you know, one of the many ways they were able to identify this guy supposedly was. that he printed them off, brought them home, put them on his counter. And then you could see it was the exact same counter that he had in other photos,

right? The counter in his kitchen. Yeah. And there was a reflection of the room and things like that. Again, can't find the secretary of one of the 12 justices that leaked that. It's impossible. They found out because they had a reflection of his furniture in his room. Right.

Uh-huh. See, this is the way the system worked back when I was in. I heard that they were trying to like modernize the J. Wick system as I think it started like last year a couple years ago. Oh, okay. So it's like Biden was involved. So modernize it means Chuck Layman open. Right. Well, I was thinking from what they were saying, they were trying to make it even more restrictive than when I was in. Like it was all going to be cloud based and a lot more like two factor authentication, all these different things. What really irritated me about the New York Times piece last night was they didn't ask any of these questions. They were just given an acronym and even what the acronym means

and they said, yeah, just pull off J-Wix. Okay. All right, so hang on to say, why would the New York Times feel the need to ask the government any questions? Especially when they were probably giving it V-VAL ask the questions here.

I mean, they seem to have trusted their government sources for everything and been burned every time as we find out it's false. Why would an editor say, did you ask them these questions? Yeah, I mean, it's almost like they were just given a piece of paper and said, print this. That's the way it felt to me.

If I'm at the New York Times and I'm actually curious about getting to the bottom of this, because I don't think we're getting the full story here at all. But I personally would have been like, okay, he got it off J.Wix. How did he get it off of J.Wix? Where was it at in J. Wix? Was it in an email, something that's called Ice Mail and Top Secret Email on J. Was he reading someone's email? Did someone send him an e-smell?

And this information was on it. Definitely not an FBI agent. What is the full? Definitely not an FBI agent. Whatever I say, not an FBI agent. Justice Department had nothing to do with this. I will say that FBI does have access to J-Wix. So I'll just put that out there.

So does the DOJ. Oh, my gosh. I'm not implying anything. I'm just putting it out there. This is the best. of the Glenn Beck program. Ready, Stu? I'm ready.

This is a good one. They're going to love this. A church in North Carolina has again unburdened thousands of families who were struggling. Trinity Moravian Church, I guess it is, in Winston, Salem, bought up and canceled nearly $3.3 million in medical debt, belonging to 3,355 families. Wow. According to the dispatch, this is the second year the members of the church have taken part in the debt Jubilee Project,

which assumes past due medical bills of residents in the area. Through the project, congregants previously purchased 1.65 million of debt, liberating 1,300 people from the Forsyth and David. in counties. When an individual fails to pay their outstanding medical bill, the medical company that is owned hires a debt collection agency. When the agency can't get the money in its collection efforts, the debt is sold to third-party collection agencies, and these are the sharks.

These are the ones that will hunt you down, and they pay pennies on the dollar just to help recoup any loss. The dispatch indicated that these third-party agencies have a legal right to either collect or forgive the debts. In partnership with RIP medical debt in New York, the Debt Jubilee Project exercised its right to do the latter. Reverend John Jackman, the pastor of the church, said most of these families were making a go of it until somebody had to go to the hospital for a few days or to the doctor for some

serious medical condition. We can't fix the system, so this is the best we can do. The Jubilee Project raised $15,000 and with that we were able to go in and bid and buy $3,295,8663 in medical debt in Davis County. on March 26, the church held a ceremony. Some of the poorer folks that we deal with get medical bills of 1,000 or 3,000, and it might as well be 10 million. I think it's time we say that's forgiven. I think it's time for relief. You got to eat.

You got to take care of your children. You got to do what you have to do just to live. So they got together in the church. They had a service. then they took all of that debt and burned it in Jubilee and then let everyone know, don't worry about that anymore. I think that's one of the greatest things I've ever heard. For what was it, $15,000?

$15,000. Wow, for $15,000, they were able to buy that much debt. $3 million. $3 million worth of debt. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so I'm going to put up the first $15,000. 15,000. Who will join me? Who will join me today? That's great. I've heard that, like, that you could buy debt cheaper. And I've heard some organizations doing this type of thing,

but $15,000 will buy you millions of dollars in debt. Three million dollars in debt. This is like the last of the last. Yeah. So this is given to the guys who are like, go get them. Right. You know what I mean? The people that harass you and say, hey, they're just the worst of the worse. And if you've ever had debt, you know, I've had debt, you know, when I was young, that had to be collected on. And then I had debt that wasn't mine that these guys wouldn't leave me alone. That's the kind of people that you're dealing with here. You're getting, you're giving them freedom from that. And, you know, this isn't deadbeat debt. This is medical debt. Right. And it has to be debt that they have, they, they know about. They know.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying that they have no anticipation of ever collecting, right, to get that sort of price. So these people are really at the end of their ropes. And you're taking this away from them? That's, I mean, that's incredible. What a great idea. Right. Now, this, of course, will be criticized by the left.

You know, this happened, even Mr. Beast had to get got criticized for this type of thing. Because this just shows that our system is so bad. and it shows how evil our system is. Why don't we just have everyone have no debt? You know, that is what they will say. Because somebody has to pay. And when we can, I think this is a great thing for churches. When you can pay that, let's pay it.

Let's help each other. This again, this is the kind of stuff that I've been looking for. Who's going the extra mile in a unique way just to help. people in meaningful ways. These are the people who are probably the poorest of the poor. I mean, you have a thousand dollars of medical debt and you can't find a way to pay it off. You're the poorest of the poor. And you're hassled and you're afraid to pick up the phone. I mean, this is great. This is great. Hats off to this church. Hats off. I think this is wonderful. Now, I went to RIP medical debt. and I haven't had my researchers look into it yet to see.

You know, I want to make sure it's not some... Before you guarantee a charitable donation, you may want to... Just to make sure, no knock on these people or anything. I think it sounds like a great idea, but you never know what it. Sounds great. Sounds absolutely great. But I want to make sure that they are, you know, this isn't some woke front or, you know, something like that. I want to make sure this money is actually going and what's happening is,

actually happening. So join me. You should do that before you give any charitable donation, by the way. Always. Even the ones that we recommend. Even mine. Mercury 1, check it out. Make sure that it has, you know, the right ratings and, you know, that it's using your

money to the best. Here's what a guy, he was a president of Goldman Sachs at one point before Goldman Sachs was bad, or at least we knew where they were bad. Um, he said to me, I said, I don't know how to be charitable. I grew up in a poor family. I, I, I don't know how to do it. And I just don't want to just, you know, just slosh money around. I want to make sure it's going to the right things. And, um, he said, I look at, um, charitable funds as investments, but you're investing in people. So what are the people you want to affect? What are you trying to get them an education? You're trying to help feed them. What is it that you want to support and then find the organizations that deliver the most amount of that dollar to the actual end recipient? Look at it as an investment.

And I have. And that's what you should do when you're looking for charities who can get it to the first. That's one of the nice things about like give send go is it's it's going right to the people because the people set it up. But I think this is fantastic. And I would, oh my gosh, can you imagine how many people that are struggling under debt that this audience could relieve? How cool would it be to just be able to call these people and just say, forget about your debt. Imagine that.

That would be great. It would be great. Unbelievable. And if that, I wonder, you know, what market forces would be applied if you tried to do this on a mass scale, right? Like $15,000, maybe you can get the cheapest of the cheap. It's got to get more, the debts gets more expensive, the more likely they are to collect it, right? So you'd wonder if you try to buy a million dollars, would that have the same ratios? Probably not.

But still, it would be do a lot. good for a lot of people i have a feeling it it would um this organization again i don't know enough about it but this organization you know they have uh they have things like for here Dallas fort worth they have an 80 thousand dollar goal 82 percent of it is raised for dallas debt uh western michigan uh Athens clark county Georgia you can find the regions that you want to give to. And they have done millions and millions and millions of dollars. I think this is great.

If they are indeed who they say they are. I'm sure there's some organization doing this well and right. And maybe this will check into it. And maybe if this is the right one, have somebody on about it to talk about it. I think it would be interesting to, I think a lot of people want to do good for people without, you know,

all the nonsense. You know, I think a lot of these, these causes. that are out there, it scares people away from giving their charitable dollars because they see how many of these things they've given to in the past that turn out to be doing things that, you know, you don't want, you don't want to be associated with. Right.

So hopefully this is clean. Yeah. Hopefully this is clean. Yeah. But we'll see because once we call them and say, hey, our audience wants to help. We don't want anything to do with you. Yeah. It's always a good indication.

We don't want your money. We'll know right away. But again, this North Carolina church. Fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. All right. It's sick, twisted freak. Let's get right to some good news. Dr. Jeffrey Barrow's is with us. He is an amazing guy. He serves as the senior vice president of bioethics and public policy for Christian medical and dental associations. He is an obstetrician gynecologist. He is a obstetrician gynecologist. He is.

is a guy who left, you know, daily practice to work with MEI, which is medical educational international Christian Medical and Dental Association. He was the director there for forever. He founded later Grace Haven, an organization assisting victims of domestic minor sex trafficking in Ohio. He served as the member of the technical working group on health and human trafficking under the Department of Health and Human Services. He's an amazing guy and he's ethical.

And so when his state said, you have to do, I don't care if you're Christian or not, you have to assist people in suicide, he said no. And he and another doctor, I believe it was Dr. Lacey, took them to court. And by their side is somebody else who's going to be on the phone with us. it's Chris Chandevelle. He is the Alliance Defending Freedom Senior Council. They won the case. You need to hear about it. Doctor and Chris, welcome to the program.

Well, good morning, Glenn. Thank you for having me on. It's great to be with you this morning. Thank you. So, Doctor, tell me what you would have been or people like you would have been forced to do had this not been turned over. Well, I first need to slightly correct you in that New Mexico is not my state. I actually live in Ohio, but I was part of CMDA and we have many members, including Dr. Lacey, in New Mexico. Okay.

And if this law had taken place and we had not filed the lawsuit with the help of ADF, our members would have been, first of all, required to tell their patients who they considered as being termed. as being terminal, maybe having six months or less left to live, about the option of assisted suicide. And then, even if they personally disagreed with it, they were required to make an effective referral if that patient did request assisted suicide. So we're very thankful that the lawsuit was successful in encouraging and getting the New Mexico legislature to change the law, and the governor sign it into law. And it's as you said, a very big win for our members there in New Mexico. I have to tell you, I mean, I don't understand why doctors can't have their own belief and say,

no, you know what? I can't do that. I'm really sorry. But if you, you know, want to do that, you'll have to go to another doctor and you can find them. They're out there. Why you're required to, you know, name another doctor that they're. can go to when you so strongly religiously believe that it is wrong. And if I'm not mistaken, and I forgive me if I am, but I understand that you have a terminal illness that you've been

battling. Is that true? Yes. Yes. A little over a year ago, I was given the diagnosis of stage four non-Hodgson's lymphoma. And I have made the point that if I lived in New Mexico, my doctor would have been required to tell me about assisted suicide at the same time of giving me that same diagnosis. And I can tell you being in the patient's position, that would have been devastating to me. I mean, it's hard enough to hear the diagnosis of stage four cancer. And you're wondering, all kinds of things are going through your mind, how long am I going to live, am I going to be able to beat this? and then to have the doctor go on and say, by the way, here is an option for you, you can go ahead and will help you kill yourself.

That is totally the wrong thing to tell a patient at that time, much less make a physician or health care professional say that to a patient. So it's not just, though, about the medical profession is becoming, to me, extraordinarily frightening because I'm a student of history. I look back at what we're repeating and through eugenics and all of the things that happen here in America and in Germany, once you start to devalue life, once you start to say, hey, maybe we can kill the young and the elderly because they don't have a life worth living, it goes awry quickly. And so it's, it is not just about that one patient that you don't have to help kill, but it is. also, I hope, drawing a line in the sand that says physicians first do no harm. Exactly. You're exactly right, Glenn, because we have lost the overall purpose of medicine, which for millennia has been to heal the patient, not to kill the patient, but to heal the patient. And if they suffer from a terminal disease to help them as much as possible to limit the suffering,

to come alongside them, to support them, but never, ever should we be hastening that death. And this is exactly where medicine is going, unfortunately, across many areas of the country. So we're very thankful again for the help of ADF and for the New Mexico legislature listening to this lawsuit and recognizing the importance of looking and accepting the conscientious rights of health care professionals. Chris Chenevel is Senior Counsel for ADF, that's Alliance Defending Freedom. You are fighting a battle just like this now in California, aren't you? We are. We are, Glenn. Thanks so much for having me on.

So what we saw in New Mexico is actually, it's very unique. You know, oftentimes when these laws are passed, legalizing assisted suicide, what we've seen in state after state is that the so-called safeguards that are supposed to be put in place and even protections for caution beliefs. Number one, they don't last and they don't work. And so California is a really good example of that. So that when they first passed their law, they did put in so-called protections for medical professionals like Dr. Barrows. but it wasn't too long after that that they amended their law to take away those protections, thus prompting our lawsuit. So we're really thrilled and excited by what we saw happen in New Mexico.

Probably one of the first, maybe the first times that we've seen a law like this get amended in a positive direction. So we're really hopeful that not only are we going to start stemming the tide of this wave of legislation across the country, but that we might even be able to start turning that tide as people learn more about what's actually. actually at stake with these laws. Doesn't this also kind of bleed over into the push now to have all doctors, no matter what their religious belief, they've got to participate in some way or another, in abortions? Absolutely. I think it's a part of this broader push to really weaponize the medical profession to advance a radical political agenda, whether that's with end-of-life issues as we're discussing today, whether that's at the beginning of life with forced participation

in abortion, whether that's with sex change surgeries and all of the procedures that go along with that doctors are being now told that they have to participate in as the price of practicing medicine. And what Dr. Barrows and the other doctors that we represent are standing up and saying is that the medical profession is supposed to be about helping and healing people. It's not supposed to be about hurting and killing people as this radical agenda proposes. And again, we're just thrilled that we're already starting to see victories on the ground like we saw in Mexico. And we're very optimistic that as more people learn that that is that these laws are going to drive good, excellent doctors like Dr. Barrow's out of the medical profession, that people are going to stand up and say,

you know, we're not, we're not going to allow that to happen here in America. So Dr. Barrels, let me ask you, I'm so concerned of what's happening in Canada because they're just ahead of us and they're already having physicians assist suicide for depressed teenagers. It's crazy what's going on up there.

But it's not just the law that is doing it. There is this push in medicine, especially at the school level. Our universities that are teaching our next doctors

are discriminating on, you know, gender care. If you disagree with any of this woke stuff, you're going to have a harder time getting in. So we're spoiling the next group of doctors that are going to replace you. Is there any battle, real significant battle and pushback to this stuff in education? You're, again, hitting a very important point. Not only has Canada crossed into a provision of assistance. suicide to younger people, but they've also crossed the threshold into euthanasia, which is what we want to avoid here in the United States at all costs.

But especially in regards to what you were talking about with Chris and training in OBGYN or for medical students, it's one thing for a practicing physician who has established themselves and they've got a practice to be able to refuse to engage in either assisted suicide or an abortion. It's quite another when you are a senior medical student or a first-year resident in obstetrics and gynecology, where you're being put in a position where you're told you have to assist in an abortion. And what student has the ability to understand, my whole education could be threatened if I refuse. And this is what we're seeing happening more and more across the country in all kinds of medical education scenarios. and frankly, we're quite worried for our students and residents and trying to look for ways to be able to protect them. Yeah. Anything we can do to help you, let us know. Dr. Barrows, thank you for everything you've done and thanks for helping stand up and congratulations and thanks to Dr. Lacey as well.

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