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Episode Date: July 1, 2021

Stu and Pat discuss how Bill Cosby was released from prison, but Britney Spears’ plea to end her conservatorship was denied. We’re getting a January 6th Commission after all, but will any question...s be addressed besides the purely partisan ones? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the podcast. Today it's Pat and Stu in for Glenn, who's on vacation. He's coming back in a week or so. Today we talk about Bill Cosby. He's out of prison. He's a free man. Is that a good thing? We'll get into that a little bit.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Brittany Spears, she's not a free woman. Is that a good thing? We'll get into that a little bit. Climate change is ruining our country. We have an amazing outtake from a 1995 article in the New York Times that you're not going to want to miss. And it's Bobby Bonilla Day. If you don't know what that is,
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Starting point is 00:01:26 Really surprising development yesterday. All of a sudden, because I didn't know this was in progress court-wise, Bill Cosby had his conviction overturned by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. and he left prison yesterday. Yeah. Bang, just like that, he's out and free. That was wild. Really something.
Starting point is 00:01:49 A lot of times you hear these cases get overturned and then they wind through the court for another six months. Right. Right. Nope, it's overturned and that day he's leaving. Yeah, you're free to go. See ya. Not even like the, you're under probation. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:04 He's just home ready to. Now, I don't know that he's going to leave the house all that much. But I don't think. I don't think he's a good. quite as popular as he was. Yeah. You know, in the late 80s. It's been a slight falloff from the Cosby show years.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I don't know if people have sensed that. If you don't monitor the entertainment industry closely, you might not have sensed that. But there's been a slight fall off in his popularity from the most popular and beloved figure in all of America to the... To not so much? To rapist. Yeah, to rape. Serial rapist, really. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And that's not necessarily. the move you want for your career. Now, he's always maintained his innocence. And that's why he said during his prison sentence that he's probably going to serve the full 10 years because he's never going to admit what he did. And that was part of the, apparently part of the process to be released in three years instead of 10
Starting point is 00:03:04 was he had to admit. Admit that he did it when he says he didn't do it. In fact, not only was he not going to admit to any wrong. doing whatsoever. He wouldn't attend their sexual predator class either. He wouldn't do the therapy and he just flat out refused. So he would have not
Starting point is 00:03:21 conforming to the conditions of early release. He wouldn't have been released early. Yeah, he would have been there for 10 years. 10 years. Probably dies in prison. Probably. Probably dies in prison. Now it was a very strange day with that case and that you don't expect a guy at that high profile
Starting point is 00:03:39 level to just be released and go home the same afternoon. I mean, it was a very strange development. But when you really look at this case, and this has been true the entire time, it really was, in my view, a miscarriage of justice. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:58 And I know... I didn't follow it that closely. I think a lot of people did what most people would do, which is to look at, okay, look, wait a minute, he did what? You get the quotes that you hear out. Yes, I guess. got Kueludes and I was drugging women or whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:13 He didn't quite say it that, but that's how it's portrayed every time. Mm-hmm. And you look at his fall from grace, the fact that he's been beat up by everybody. No one likes him anymore. There's really no defenders of him. Except Felicia Rashad, which is a shame. She has been the lone defender of this guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:34 In fact, she said, finally. Yeah. Justice has been served or whatever she said yesterday. She was the one person who tweeted something good about him. Yes, that's true. She has, she does have that one defender. And she's the one, by the way, yeah, who played his wife on the Cosby show. Claire Huxable was it?
Starting point is 00:04:51 Yeah. That's been a while. It's been a while. But so stepping back for a second, did Bill Cosby do these things to these women? I don't know. I wasn't there. Seems to be a lot of women who were accusing him. Obviously, you can't just make it about that.
Starting point is 00:05:09 definitely said some things in the transcript of the trial for the civil case that would lead you to believe he was certainly not a good guy and maybe very well did some terrible things to the women. So let's just assume for a second he did these things. A hundred percent we know mentally that he did these things. He still should not have gone to prison. And here's the thing. If you go back and look at how this progressed, basically this woman accused Bill Cosby of of these terrible things.
Starting point is 00:05:40 He said he didn't do it. He denied it. And they were going to bring him to criminal trial. The prosecutor at the time, or the DA at the time, says, okay, I'm looking at the evidence here. We have nothing except she's saying it, right? She's saying it. And he's saying that it didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:05:56 No physical evidence. This happens all the time in these types of cases. This is why, by the way, if something, God forbid, something like this happens to you, go immediately to the authorities so that they can get as much physical evidence as possible and circumstantial evidence as possible. Because once you let a few years go by, it's impossible to look at these things unless you have the person admitting it.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And there were way more than a few years. Right. Yeah. And in a lot of these cases, it was decades and decades and decades. Yeah. So the DA says, okay, well, I'm looking at the evidence here.
Starting point is 00:06:27 There's no way we're going to get him convicted in a criminal suit. There's no way. Because he's just going to say Fifth Amendment right to not have to testify. and they're just going to throw it out of court. So their solution to that was to say, hey, Bill, what if we give you immunity in this case in exchange for you to testify in the civil case,
Starting point is 00:06:54 to give some answers to these questions? So you'll be guaranteed you will not be convicted and go to prison if you give, actually tell your story and answer these questions. So he, they think about it. Now look, if you're totally innocent, do you just say screw it? I'm going to court anyway? Maybe, but you're taking a huge risk, right? So in his telling of the story, he said, well, look, I'm, I can get rid of the possibility of going to prison.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And the worst cases I'll have to go and I'll defend myself in this case and I might lose some money in a civil case. Right. So that happens. They go through. They went up settling the civil case eventually. He pays a few million dollars. this testimony is sealed, guaranteed to be sealed, and guaranteed that he cannot be convicted of this crime and go to prison.
Starting point is 00:07:45 That DA leaves, the new one comes in and says, you know what? The thing is, when we made that deal, there wasn't this comedian that went viral about the case. So let's reopen it and just forget all the stuff we told him before. Instead, we'll just say, you know what, we can use all that testimony that had to be sealed. And you know what, you can be convicted for it. and so they just redid it all totally against what had been guaranteed to him this entire time. It goes through the process.
Starting point is 00:08:16 He obviously, now they have the testimony of him saying the Kualudes thing and all these other things. So he looks much, much worse than he would have looked initially. They just tricked him and overturned their own promise. That's crazy. And that is absolutely not our legal system. I'm sorry. Like, as bad as this guy might be, he may very well. be a serial rapist.
Starting point is 00:08:38 But just like everyone else in this country, you get rights in the legal system and the government cannot continually screw you and tell you one thing and do the other.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Did he admit to all those things in the civil trial? He didn't admit to them. So he said things like, you know, I bought quailout. Did you ever buy quailudes to be with women? Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Did you ever, what was your intent when you bought the quailudes? Were you wanting to have sex with these women? Yes. Now, when they asked him, did you have sex with him without, you know, when they were asleep or against their will? He says, no.
Starting point is 00:09:14 So basically, again, I'm not saying I believe his case, but his case is. So he gave him Kueeludes just to relax him. Get him in the mood. Yeah, his case. His case was basically like, you know, in this, you know, whatever. It's an avrodisiac. That's all the Kualudes are. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Would like take it, take Kualoos, because no one uses Kualudes anymore. It's not even a thing. Oh, it sounds like Ludes. You should ask Jeffie in here because he'd be able to. 60s or 70s. This was his point. The 60s and 70s, Kualudes were like wine.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Again, I'm not, again, I don't agree with his point. But his point is like, basically I bought a case of beer to drink with a woman and then in my hopes I was going to sleep with her. That was kind of what he was, his point was in these moments.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Of course, Quailutes now are much more associated with drugging of women. And that is, by the way, their accusation, that he was slipping the Kualudes into drinks or whatever. They would drink them
Starting point is 00:10:04 then would not, they would fall asleep and then he would have his way with them. He completely denies that. We don't know the truth here. There's so many accusations. It's easy to believe that it is true. However, they basically went to Bill Cosby and said, hey, we're not going to pursue any prosecution. You will have immunity in this case. In exchange for that, you have to abandon your Fifth Amendment right to be able to not answer these questions.
Starting point is 00:10:34 You get to your constitutional rights gone because you cannot be convicted. So you have to answer these questions. And so they used that against him in the criminal trial? Yeah. They brought all of the information they got from the civil trial and said, okay, now you can be convicted and we can use this information. I mean, that is completely insane. There's not a lot of people are going to be sympathetic though.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And that's true. He clearly did something. Yes. In the eyes of the American people, he did something wrong. And I think in a way, this is a race. he is a rapist. This is a positive development for our legal system because we have decided as a country to start doing justice via social media, via documentary.
Starting point is 00:11:19 You know, like they came out with a documentary against this person. We now know they're evil and they never get to do anything in society again. And when we have an actual legal system that's supposed to go through this stuff. And just because, like it seems like people were like, well, Bill Cosby, we all think he's bad. He's really bad. In fact, it looks like he did some really, really bad stuff. And we don't like him.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And this is different than a normal person because we really don't like him. And he made us like him before. And so now we don't. So it's sort of burned by that. Yeah, we feel burned by that. So we're just going to, you know, the whole legal system, what if we don't do that for now and just instead focus on the fact that we really don't like him? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:03 You know, like, what if we overturn all these rules and laws? Because Bill Cosby's really bad. And look at all these tweets. Have you seen the Hannibal comedy session on it? It's really funny. People look at all the views on YouTube. Maybe he should be convicted. That's not justice.
Starting point is 00:12:22 It's not the way the system works. Yeah. And even when it benefits the worst people among us, those rules still get to be applied. And the other interesting aspect of this, he was admitting to all of that stuff with his wife in tow, with his wife hearing it all. And supporting him. And supporting him. She's still with him.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah. Still with him. What kind of weird arrangement did they have? I don't know. Wow. That's something. There was never a point where he was like, I didn't cheat on my wife. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:12:56 I mean, there may have been a point, but that point is long past. Not lately. Yeah. Not during the case. and not during the trial and not during any interviews, did he ever say? And she sat there right by him a few times in interviews
Starting point is 00:13:11 and they talked about this stuff. And they really amazing. And it's one of those things. There's a million accusations. It was a known secret in Hollywood for a long time. There are people who, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:23 I was talking to somebody who went to Temple recently. And he was like, you know, everybody, everybody, it was like a known secret around there. Like he would always be down
Starting point is 00:13:30 like having his arms around the young, girls. It was all, it was just a thing, you know. And but that's, that's neither here nor there when you're talking about putting someone in prison. Yeah. Like, you can have all the beliefs you want about somebody, but you can't, you can't throw them in prison. And I do feel like there's this thing that's happening, uh, in our society right now,
Starting point is 00:13:51 where we, if enough social media pressure exists, it's just okay to break the rules to punish that person. It's just okay. You know, sure, you might have, like, you might have the right to be, to not be in prison, but we, we don't like you. It does seem to be almost the long and the short of it. Like, there's a lot of accusations against you. We have no evidence to put you in prison.
Starting point is 00:14:18 However, you should go to prison because look at all these freaking retweets. Yeah. That's not America. Going to the First Amendment, Pat. Everyone always says it. The speech, the First Amendment protects is the, the speech people hate because they it's not the everybody who says nice things to each other no one's trying to censor hallmark greeting cards it's the stuff that you don't want to hear it's the stuff
Starting point is 00:14:42 that's difficult to hear that's what it's there to protect it's supposed to be there to protect the worst people in society and i think that may very well be the case here but the fact that that that still stands in the pennsylvania supreme court because they're not going to want to they're not going to have fun at at dinner parties here for a while after this one that's for sure People are not going to like it. AAA 727 B-E-C-K. More in one minute. The best of the Glenn Beck program.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Pat and Stouffer Glenn. AAA-7-27-B-E-C-K. We're talking about Britney Spears. To have Bill Cosby's situation too, which is incredible. He's now a free man. Conviction overturned. Can't be tried again.
Starting point is 00:15:31 So he's free now for the rest of his life. Well, unless he rapes again or does something illegal again and gets caught for it. But Britney Spears lost her bid to get out of her conservatorship with her father yesterday. And it just seems bizarre to me that a 39-year-old woman can't run our own life if she's not a danger to herself or others. And, you know, we were talking during the break. Maybe she is.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And we just haven't heard. Maybe we just don't know all the facts. That is the one thing that should cause a little bit of hesitation with this. Because if it is, if the situation is. as it's been presented in the media, it's absolute injustice, right? If she's just, like, maybe she's got some issues. But so many un-American things are happening right now.
Starting point is 00:16:20 It's like, oh, okay, well, there's another one. I will say very well may be exactly what we think it is on the surface. Maybe it is completely un-American and completely out of control. It's very possible. That's just the truth. I mean, we have a background of information on this, right? where the parent of a child star wants to take in their millions and is dedicated to basically ruining their life in that pursuit.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah. We certainly have plenty of evidence on that from other cases. The only thing I would hesitate, and I don't know the laws in California per se, but I will say, you know, having to go through, you know, some stuff recently, uh, it regards to people, you know, uh, with mental health issues and, and seeing people. try to handle those issues. It is, it's not like you walk in to a courtroom and say, I'd like a conservatorship over that person.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Can I have one? And they're like, oh yeah, sure. Here. Here's the paperwork. Like, this is like, it's not easy. It's hard to get to get the conservatorship. And so the question is like, people are like, well, I can't believe that her dad would say, she's forced to take an IUD.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And she, she's, every one of her dance moves is goes through her dad. Stop for a second. think, what if, what if he didn't do that? Just what if everything she said was completely made up? What if every one of her claims exists in her mind as reality, but is not reality? That's what mental, severe mental health looks like. Yeah. And so we don't know, for example, you know, I'm just this, I don't have information on this, but just throwing this out there. Like, did Britney Spears try to commit suicide eight times? I don't know. I'm not saying that the court does know it, though.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And so they might be dealing with a completely different set of information. Very true. And, like, I will say some of the claims, you know, that she was making, I read her testimony where she made all these claims. And they sounded familiar from other people I've heard going through these situations. Like people who have gone. through and set they you know there's like a new accusation every day there's a new sort of like a thing you've never heard of some and they're very often crazy scenarios that are shocking to hear
Starting point is 00:18:53 but when you investigate them with someone dealing with severe mental health issues a lot of times what you find out is they just made it up you know i mean as crazy as it says and it may not be Britney Spears. I'm not defending the dad. I don't know enough about the situation. I just think that when we look at it, we have to understand that these situations a lot of times are a lot more complicated.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Like I've seen cases where, you know, something will happen, a dramatic event will happen to a family member. And, you know, someone dealing with mental health issues will hear about that event and then adopt it into their own life. They'll all of a sudden start telling people it happened to them instead of the other family member.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Because it's just like the brain is just, you know, it's just not working. It's just not working anymore. And it's really sad and hard to deal with. And if you think about yourself as a dad, if your daughter is going through something like this, you're going to do what you can to try to protect them. Now, given that it's Hollywood, given that we're millions of dollars on the line, given that she is seemingly coherent enough to come out and speak and do some basic things, it does appear that change should be made in some way.
Starting point is 00:20:10 But I would just, you got to, there's a reason I think you need to at least have hesitation to believe like this is the ultimate injustice open and shut case. The court knows a lot more about this than any of us do. And if she really has been a danger to herself or if she's a, you know, if she's a person who is incapable of sort of like landing in reality and that, You know, every time she has a dealing with someone else, she can't, she can't keep track of what is real and what is not. That's a basic thing we all need to have.
Starting point is 00:20:47 At times, it feels like when you listen to the media, you listen to the government, doesn't feel like anybody has it anymore. But like, you need to be able to say, hey, last week I went to Arby's and got a roast beef sandwich and a curly fries. Like, all of us, when we would say that, we would know we were at that Arby's. What if you weren't at the Arby's?
Starting point is 00:21:09 What if you never went and got the curly fries? There are people who go through severe mental illness where they can't decipher the difference between what is real and what is not. And to get a conservatorship over a celebrity with millions of dollars of legal backing behind them. And millions of supporters. Yeah, that is very young to get a conservatorship at all
Starting point is 00:21:34 I would argue at least from my understanding of it, it is incredibly difficult to do. And when you look back to when you remember what was going on in 2008 with her. Yeah. She was going through some things. Very public meltdown. Yeah. She had some meltdowns and she shaved her head and stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:52 But I mean, you can shave her head if you want to. If that's all it is. But she melted down. Yeah. And I think there were bigger issues than shaving her head. Right. And so that's how the conservators. started in the first place.
Starting point is 00:22:06 So there were things going on. She was doing weird things. She was saying weird things. She was acting erratically. And that's how she lost control of her of her financial life. Yes. And the legal system should err on the side of freedom, right? So if she's even close to being able to deal with anything in her life, even if she is a
Starting point is 00:22:29 disaster, even if she's a person who's going to go out and take the second she's free, go to a casino with all of her money and bet it all and lose it all. Even that, she should still be free. Like that, she should be able to do what she wants to do. But, you know, it may be more, it may be more significant than that.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And we should remember that everything that she said in her hearing should not be taken as, as truth, you know. It's true. You know, it is really important that if, if she's at all capable of handling her life, she should be able to handle her life.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And even if she's, incapable of it, you know, even if there's a lot of people who, I mean, there's people I know who are, you know, in this building who work here. I mean, Jeffrey should not be able to allow to handle his life. How many times that we argued that he should not be able to be around his children? Many times. Us, right. Should not be a lot in the building. Right. Right. You know, but I mean, no one's going to want a conservatorship for Jeffie. That's nobody's going to want that. Nobody wants to try to untangle that mess. No. No. No, no thank you. But. not even Brittany's dad
Starting point is 00:23:34 intervene and make that one work out okay. It's like the reverse bit, Brittany, you get into the conservatorship and suddenly you owe millions of dollars. And you're like, how did this happen? But, you know, so the legal system should always err on freedom. So likely,
Starting point is 00:23:52 probably this should change. But there is, there should be at least consideration to the alternative. Yeah, I guess so. because it did seem like the judge was pretty solid in his ruling and pretty definitive that this needed to continue. Weird.
Starting point is 00:24:13 But somebody else joined in the, she wanted some institution, some financial institution to be part of it. And so now he's got to share that conservatorship with somebody else. So maybe that'll make her life better. I don't know. But it's going to continue for an indefinite. amount of time. I don't know how many times you can revisit that and try to over, overcome the conservatorship, conservatorship. I don't know how many times you can revisit that. So I don't know either. And, you know, look, if it's, that's the other thing that you could
Starting point is 00:24:50 argue here is that let's just say it was a really bad situation. Most people probably are unable to do what she's done here. Right. You can't, it's hard to come up with the, the legal You don't have the resources to mount a legal challenge against it. You also don't have the public support to go through something like that. Nobody cares, right? You're just wasting away in conservatorship land. But she has the resources to be able to challenge it in ways that other people wouldn't. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:24 So maybe, you know, in this world where it actually was a good decision to put her in conservatorship, if you accept that for a second, most people wouldn't be able to, to get out of it, where she might be able to get out of it because she has those resources. So are the resources helping overturn a situation that was appropriate is the other way to look at it. Right. And again, I don't know, but it is one of those situations. It does feel like in a similar way with the Cosby thing, where social media, documentaries, we do justice by documentary now.
Starting point is 00:25:56 The New York Times released a documentary that said Brittany had really unfair treatment of her when she was younger. And there's some convincing evidence to that. So we now kind of, everyone's on that side of things. And we now kind of look at this and say, all right. Well, that's the way it is. Maybe it may not be the way it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:15 It might, it might not. Yeah. AAA 727 B, E.CK. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. We're filling in for Glenn here for a few days as he's on vacation, far away from here. and he's missing out on some big things. Like we were going to have a January 6th commission after all, Pat.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yay! Aren't you excited? Yay! Yeah, that'll be great, won't it? Yeah, it's going to be really exciting. Now, this one's done by the Democrats in Congress. So it's not this, they were initially going for this special commission, a bipartisan variety. That's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Republicans did not get on board with that, and for good reason. obviously was not an honest attempt to get the information needed. I am of the thought that there is information we can get from a commission looking into this if it was honest.
Starting point is 00:27:29 This one isn't going to be honest, but I would like to know there's certainly questions like why the hell was the security so bad at the Capitol? Why was this possible? I mean, think about this for a second. Yeah, this was a, you know, there was a mob. A lot of people. There were some people who were pretty bad in the mob. A lot of people who were just, you know, there for the speech and didn't do much of
Starting point is 00:27:49 anything. What if it was a foreign group of terrorists that decided to do this? What, what if, yeah, remember, this is an announced rally down the street where they knew it was a contentious time. They knew that a lot of these people obviously believe what was going on in the capital was very bad. And they didn't prepare for it really at all. What would happen if like a foreign terrorist group did try to go in and kill a bunch of our representatives. I don't know. Like that's the type of... That seems like a bad thing. A really bad thing. And like if we had an honest government and people who actually cared
Starting point is 00:28:25 about the outcomes in these matters, there would be reason to really look into this and get a report. Why wasn't the National Guard out there in less than what was it four hours? Why did that take four hours? That's insanity. So there are reasons to look at this. It's just not going to happen with a commission like this. I mean, you look at the New York Times put out a documentary yesterday, about 40 minutes on January 6th. And of course, obviously, you know the Times is coming. You know the story they're telling. I don't need to tell you in advance what story they're telling. It was the
Starting point is 00:29:00 worst event in American history. First event in American history. Now, so they don't spend any time on the people who were not violent. There was, you know, I don't know how many people were at that particular rally, but thousands and thousands and thousands of people, we've talked to many of them who were there and didn't even know any of this occurred. There weren't any nonviolent people there. Were there? Shockingly, there was. You know, with all the judging by all the piles of dead bodies, I wouldn't think there was a single nonviolent person. It's shocking. But a lot of people like went to the Trump speech and went back to their cars. Yeah. Like there's a lot of that and they, of course, don't show any of that. And there are people who went to the Capitol and didn't go into the building. There were also people who went to the Capitol did go in the building, but didn't break.
Starting point is 00:29:42 anything or steal anything or hurt anybody. Now, we do, because all of that, what you just said is true, we do at times forget that there was a lot. I mean, there were a lot of people. There was some bad things that happened. Did do bad things. Yeah. It was an embarrassment. Yeah. I mean, 150 police officers were injured. And like, they have legit. The Times does this thing very well. If you go back and look at, for example, they did the exact same thing for the Las Vegas shooting. and it's really a legitimately incredible thing to watch. They have a zillion videos.
Starting point is 00:30:18 They kind of place them on a map so you know exactly where they happen. Like this person was driving by this building. You hear the shots going over their head. You get views from, I mean, really, when they do like actual journalism, you can get some value out of the New York Times occasionally. This one is obviously much more partisan than the Las Vegas shooting was, but they do have a lot of video. And there are legitimately bad people, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:42 bashing police officers over the head with stuff. That doesn't mean that they died. But still, like, I'm never, I don't give a crap about partisan nonsense when it comes to, if you're a person that hits a police officer over the head with something, screw you. Yeah, you need to be, you need to be punished.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yeah, I've had officers in my family. These people risk their lives for us every day. The same way that I don't care what you think about the George Floyd case don't throw a brick at a police officer. I will stand by that till the day I freaking die. The same thing with January 6th. If you had a Trump flagpole and were bashing police officers over the head with it, screw you.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Honestly, I don't, I don't, it was not nothing. That being said, what are they going to find in this report? What are they going to do here? You know, it's not. Was it an insurrection, some calculated attempt to actually take over the government? Were there, they have messages and they have a lot of people saying those types of things. So it was not no one in the crowd. It was not zero people in the crowd who were thinking that way.
Starting point is 00:32:00 There were some, but it was an overwhelming minority of, and almost all these people were unarmed. How the hell do they think they were going to actually take control of the government? Right. Like, it was a riot. The right way to say. this is it was a riot. It was unacceptable, but it was not what the Democrats
Starting point is 00:32:18 are saying it was. They are trying to make every grandmother who's in 300 miles of this thing and voted for Donald Trump into a criminal. It's insane. And while the events of the day might lead you
Starting point is 00:32:34 to say, hey, maybe we should be prepared for this next time and maybe we should take an honest view and look at how we can do that because obviously the way we're doing it now does not work. That would be something that a commission might, a serious country with serious people and a serious government might look into and say, hey, here's, here are the steps we should take next time.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Instead, they're just going to make this into a way to try to make January 6th into a date you remember like 9-11, right? It was the worst thing that had ever happened to us. and despite the fact that the business of the government continued on the same day, also January 6th, kind of indicating
Starting point is 00:33:19 maybe it wasn't you know, Pearl Harbor or 9-11. It was a bad day, but it was not what they're trying to make it out to be. They want to make that out to be the only thing that's happened. And I would be,
Starting point is 00:33:34 I think there was a really legitimate request by Republicans who said, look, we'll do your bipartisan. commission, it's great. But we're going to do it. And we're also going to look at the violence that happened over the summer when billions of dollars of damage were done. When way more people were killed, far more death occurred in those riots than the one that happened on January 6th. Far bigger loss of property. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Much more damage to property. People died all over the place. And there were federal buildings that were attacked. It was government stuff as well. as just property as they like try to demean you know of someone's life's work in their local business. Huge swaps of American cities
Starting point is 00:34:17 actually taken over by mobs. Yeah, by mobs. And they act as if that should be investigated too. I would like to know what is the truth there? Yeah. What, you know, what groups, where do they get the money for? Totally legitimate. What they were doing. How about the money that was raised by, you know, one of the people
Starting point is 00:34:34 serving in the administration who was tweeting out links to bail the criminals out of jail. Huh. Why was that? Who would do that? How was that set up? Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Who would set up? Kamala Harris. Who would do that? Not Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris? What? Why would you say Kamala Harris? Oh, she's laughing.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I can't believe it. I would like to know that. I think that's part of this, right? It's part of political violence in the same in the same time frame. Totally reasonable to look into that. Yeah. And instead, it's, it's, they're,
Starting point is 00:35:06 oh, how dare you? Yeah. They're seen as totally different events. And you know what the real truth of this is, at least in large extent, I think. The truth of the reason why they weren't prepared for January 6th is because they had seen nine billion conservative leading rallies not go awry. And they probably thought, you know what? Yep.
Starting point is 00:35:31 There's always people who were saying stuff like this. You can always find somebody online who says, we need to take, that's our house. Let's take back our house. All right. We've seen this a zillion times. The bottom line is these rallies have occurred all over the country for a really long time. And there's never been a problem like this. And there's never been a problem like this.
Starting point is 00:35:47 So they probably thought they were going to be fine. And in reality, you can't sit, you have to be able to be prepared for these situations in the off chance they do occur. But when the left marches, these things go right all the time. And so you need to prepare for everybody like you prepare for the left, I guess. Yeah. But there's no answers in a commission like this. There's just not going to be any. And, you know, they put, Liz Cheney's going to be on the commission.
Starting point is 00:36:16 She's accepted the invitation from Pelosi. Not going to win her any friends in the Republican Party, obviously. They're going to, they're saying they're going to strip her committee assignments over it. So, I mean, they're going to claim it's a bipartisan thing because Liz Cheney's on there. And obviously, Liz Cheney has a, has her mind made up on this one. And that's fine. She has a right to her opinion. but, you know, we can't act as if this is some bipartisan fair commission.
Starting point is 00:36:41 It's not going to be. It's just going to be a way to make January 6th into the only thing you're supposed to think about and the only thing you're supposed to vote on and the only thing that's supposed to influence you. And obviously that's not the right way to think about our country right now. We've got a lot of problems going on. And ongoing Trump-related riots at the Capitol are not one of them. That's not something that's just not going on. You know, that was a, that was a way.
Starting point is 00:37:07 one off event, I think, in our history. Well, and they acted like it was going to happen again and again and again. What was the next date that was supposed to be? It was March 4th or January 20th? You had the actual inauguration. You had a date in March. That's right. Then fourth or something sixth or whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And nothing ever happened. And I don't think anything was ever being planned because it never came off. You know, a lot of this comes back to the way you get to retroactively look at things like social media. You know, something goes awry. Yeah, you can go back and look at people who are talking tough. Everybody talks tough online. I'm tired of it, but that's what everybody does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:46 You know, everybody's saying all these things and everybody says they're going to, you know, look at the left. You tell me, you can't, every time we look, we're able to find hundreds of people who say they're going to go burn down buildings and take over the government and, you know, assassinate public figures. It's all over the internet. So after something that happens, you can retroactively go back and prove any case you want. But in reality, these things are always out there in a society that values free
Starting point is 00:38:13 speech. And all you can do is try to prepare yourself in case something bad does happen. You know, yes, you can always, I mean, think about if, if you went back to the days of like the 90s and there was real social media back then, like what would Timothy McVay have on his Facebook page? You'd be able to go back and say, this guy was. saying this stuff on his Facebook page over and over again. And we're in a different era. You can always go back and find people who say
Starting point is 00:38:45 bad things. You know? And look, the people who did those things, particularly to the officers, should be, you should go after him. I have no problem with throwing the book of those people. But, you know, what they're trying to do with this event is just
Starting point is 00:39:01 it's kind of like left-wing fan fiction. You know? They're just trying to make this into this thing that it isn't. It was, it was a, it was a day that we should know and we should make sure the people who are responsible for those bad things are prosecuted for them. But like, let's be honest about it for a second here. And there's no ability to do that in the media.

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