The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | 7/6/21

Episode Date: July 6, 2021

Walmarts and Targets in San Francisco are shutting down after a spike in shoplifting. Stu and Pat discuss all the people challenging Gov. Abbott and their chances, including unannounced candidate Matt...hew McConaughey. ESPN is yet again facing controversy after it recently went woke. The Left continues to eat its own. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:55 And that's the most important thing. Well, that's connecting with the audience. I'm giving it a shot. So today on the podcast, we're in for Glenn. He's back next week. We go to Biden's latest cognitive lapse, lapses in multiple speeches of this weekend. There's a controversy at ESPN where wokeness is fighting against wokeness. And there's a whole collection of stories of liberals eating their own on this topic,
Starting point is 00:01:20 which is always a lot of fun. We ask you, what did you do with your 16 cents that you saved for July 4th in that barbecue? and we find out from college students whether they're proud of the country. And you're going to be surprised to hear they are not. It's all in the podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck. Greens making some drastic changes due to an increase in theft in San Francisco. According to the California Retailers Association, three cities in California are among the top 10 in the country when it comes to organized retail crime.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Sacramento. Already they've been seeing the negative impact it's having in San Francisco with stores permanently shutting down or closing early because of theft at their stores. Target has now acknowledged San Francisco is the only city in America where they've decided to close some stores early because of escalating retail crime. People just come in and take stuff and leave. It's not like they're breaking in in the middle of the night. They're doing this during store hours, often in broad daylight. If anyone, any company knows this, I don't know how Target couldn't be the one because they were the one that were told when their buildings were burning to the ground. It's just property.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Right. They're being completely cleaned out in city after city after city. Yeah, you know, it's just property. Don't worry about it. And so now they're realizing. You have insurance. Right? You have theft insurance.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Which, by the way, I mean, as any small business owner will tell you, you're, that doesn't work out that way. You don't get like 100% of your money back. No. That's not how that works. Do you have your roof replaced recently after the hail? I did not. No, I did not. I'm having mine replaced.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And it's, uh, insurance comes in and says, yeah, I'll give you about half, about that, what that's worth. They don't say it's half, but it is about half of what it will actually cost. That's great. Yeah. Plus my deductible. So that worked out. Yeah. The insurance thing, it's not ideal.
Starting point is 00:03:35 So when you're telling these companies, yeah, just use your insurance. and first of all, you shouldn't be stealing stuff from them. But we've gotten to the place where apparently that's okay for certain people to steal things from a store. It's true. And I think it's an organized thing at this point.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I'd love to hear if there's any small business owners who have gone through this at there, if they own a retail facility. I know someone who was in a store and watch this happen. Here in the DFW area. Yeah. And this is Texas. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah. Where a group of, Four people came in to a store. It was a makeup store with garbage bags and walked up to the counter where all the displays were and took their arms and cupped, you know, 50 to 60 like lip glosses and just shoveled them into the garbage bag and did it about 10 times each and then walked out of the store. Oh my God. With four garbage bags filled with makeup. Thousands of dollars of makeup and stuff is freaking expensive. Believe me, it goes about two thirds of my salary goes to it.
Starting point is 00:04:37 So were these people who are the greatest danger we face in America, white supremacists? No, I don't. Is that what they were white supremacists? If they were white supremacists, they were really bad at it. This particular group of ladies. Don't tell me they were Bipok. They were Bipak people. Hey, we're Bipak.
Starting point is 00:04:57 They were Bipak. Oh, no. This particular group. Black indigenous people of color. Yes. Now, it's interesting because you have to look at the incentives of some. a situation. By the way,
Starting point is 00:05:10 AAA 727 Beck, if you happen to be a small business owner and I've seen this happen or how, because I would love to hear how you're dealing with it. Yeah. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:17 the incentive of this situation is the employees of a corporate retail establishment don't want to get into an altercation. They're trained to not get into an altercation. Yep. They're trained to know,
Starting point is 00:05:32 well, don't say, don't try to stop X, Y, and Z type of person because that's, not, you know, there's guaranteed signs all over the store saying how much black lives matter and how much, uh, we know, every, every dumb left wing slogan is pasted all over every one of these stores.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And as we've seen, even with like Starbucks, Starbucks, what was the controversy? They didn't allow someone to go to the bathroom and it became a national story. Yeah. So if you try to stop someone, you tackle a woman with a garbage bag of makeup making it, walking out the door. They're not going to. What happens in that situation? You're on the news as the bad person.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You're on the news as the terrible person who didn't let this individual who... I've scone with thousands of dollars worth of your material. Your product. What are you going to do? You're going to step back and you're just going to let it happen. And they're going to walk out the door. And if they do get caught, which they probably won't, probably the charges will be dropped. Right?
Starting point is 00:06:36 we've seen Antifa they burn down cities and we have the vice president in the United States begging for money to bail them out so why would you possibly believe you're going to get in trouble over something like this and if they do get in trouble what is it a fine
Starting point is 00:06:51 a fine that is what one tenth of one hall from one of these stores so you're seeing this all over the place there was a video that went viral last week or the week before a guy just walks in fills his garbage bag with all sorts of stuff on his bike and just rides his bike out the front door store.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah. There's no longer, you don't need to be Ocean's 11 anymore. There's no, you don't need to have this incredibly intricate operation. You walk in the front door,
Starting point is 00:07:16 like every other customer, with a garbage bag on display, you fill it with the material. You walk out the front door, the same way you came in. You just ignore everyone telling you to stop. Yeah, it's not that hard. It's not that hard.
Starting point is 00:07:29 No. Oftentimes people don't even tell you to stop. They just, yeah. They just watch you go out the door. And like, look, if you're an important, employee, you're making, you know, 13 bucks an hour.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And you're thinking to myself, I'm not going to get, I'm not going to become an international story because I stopped a bi-pac individual from, uh, from stealing something or a Hispanic individual or a white individual. I'm sure this is happening with all sorts of colors. I mean, it's just this particular story happened to be that. And I would think it's a lot harder to justify to corporate that you did something in this situation, the further down the oppression ladder you get, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:10 We're seeing this in story after story after story. Now the oppressed, the formerly oppressed women, the formerly oppressed gays, the formerly oppressed, if you're not, you know, 12 different intersectionality groups at the same time, you don't even show up on these charts anymore. I mean, like, poor women. Remember when women were oppressed? And now they're a forgotten class completely. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah, yes, they are. As indicated by the thing last week at the Wii spa in Los Angeles, where the trans woman goes into the bathroom and shows her weener to her girls. And I will say, just the fact that you just said those two words next to each other. Yeah. That's a lot about her. It does, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:09:08 She shows a weener. It's not funny to little girls. No, it's not funny. What's not funny is how you're identifying them as little girls without asking them what gender they are. That's true. So one person, one person goes to the counter and complains about that to the spa employees. And that person is the bad person.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Because how did. you say she can't show her weiner to people in the bathroom. How dare you? It doesn't. And so she's the bad guy and everybody defends the person showing their genitalia in the bathroom to little girls. It's like, okay, we don't care about defending or protecting little girls anymore. Or women for that matter. We don't care about it.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Nope. In fact, if you ask about it or say anything about it, you're a hate mind. longer. Well, this is absolute insanity. Over the weekend, a few people show up to protest that going on. Calling it pedophilia, because it is. And Antifa shows up and starts beating these people. One of them got slashed with a knife in the arm. Others were beaten to the ground. This guy, this Asian guy, just standing there, and a woman runs up and kicks him where he lives. And he responds by hitting her in the head with a water bottle.
Starting point is 00:10:42 He's the one who gets arrested. And he's the one everybody's yelling and screaming about. Because you've got these Antifa people that they're the aggressors. And then if anybody, you know, is aggressive back towards them. Whoa! No, no. Now they're the bad person. Yes. That is how this works.
Starting point is 00:11:00 It is. Then they do it really well. They do it really well. It's amazing to see our society react to this stuff. Like, you know, Target and Walgreens are making decisions they believe are good for their bottom line, right? And what they're doing is we'd rather be closed. There are 7-Elevens that are closing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Now, the original meaning of 7-Eleven was seven days a week open 11 hours a day. Right. That is what it initially- Or till 11 at night. I thought it was 11 hours. Maybe it was to 11 a night. It was something of that nature. I thought it was 11 hours a day, which isn't. all that impressive, frankly.
Starting point is 00:11:37 It's not. No. Maybe it was until 11 at night. But there was, you know, and now it's obviously, but everywhere, it's a 24-hour business. Yeah. And they're closing, or at least closing, not allowing people inside because the theft is so prominent. I mean, Target and Walgreens just closing their stores. Closing them.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Because they see it as more of a problem to remain open. Yeah. The shoplifting is so bad they can't make money because of it because of the shoplifting. So they got it might as well just close that outlet, which they did. And normally what your answer is, I mean, look, if there are some levels where maybe you would close the store down, I guess, I'm sure it's obviously happened before. But it's becoming more common because you really, the other way of handling this is adding security people. But the security people aren't allowed to do anything. Yeah, this security guard says, his name is Kevin Greathouse.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And he said that they're told not to physically engage with those who shoplift. He said, it's going to be lawsuits. Obviously, they don't want ourselves or anybody else to get injured while we're out here attempting to make these apprehensions and leave it to law enforcement. Carries with him a handgun, a taser, and pepper spray, but he's never used them. On the other hand, he says people shoplifting have at times threatened him with a knife. And he said, I don't have any intention of getting stabbed for $60 worth of stuff. Well, okay, so you can hire security guards, but if you're going to tell them not to engage with anybody who steals, what good are they? just wasting your money.
Starting point is 00:13:07 There's a video that, another video that went viral this weekend of a guy in New York in a place, a place we certainly walked by a million times when we lived in New York. And one of these are like Penn Station type hallways. And like they're not pretty. And usually on the side, there might be a homeless person sitting down. So this guy, he's sitting there. He's mopping the, he's mopping the floor. And he's got his bucket there.
Starting point is 00:13:31 He's mopping the floor. He turns around. He's mopping the floor. And you see it all happen. As soon as he turns his back, he's mopping the floor, the homeless guy gets up, walks over, turns around, sits down on the bucket and starts taking a crap in the bucket. Oh. Now, this guy turns around with his mop. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And it's like, what the damn? You know, swears quite a bit. And goes up to the guy and goes, get out of it. The guy is offended that he's tried to stop him in the middle of going to the bathroom in his cleaning bucket. and takes his mop and starts hitting him with him up. Yeah. Now there's tons of people all walking around there. This is in the middle of a high traffic area.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And he just goes, he pushes right through it and gets go right back down, sits on the bucket and goes for it in front of everybody. And I mean, this is the state of our cities right now. And I got news for you. no Republicans running any of them. Right. You know, there's no Republicans running any of these cities, basically at this point. There's a couple, but there's very, very few. And this is what has happened over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:14:43 These cities are just turning into, they're disintegrating. Yeah, like apocalyptic scenarios. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. There's a new poll out that shows Governor Abbott with a 39, 38% lead over Matthew McConaughey. Now, nobody even knows what Matthew McConaughey's policies are. What's his agenda? He hasn't even declared, are you a Democrat or a Republican?
Starting point is 00:15:20 Nobody knows. Or an independent. Or an independent. Right. Who knows? Which is probably what he'd run as, because, you know, if you're anything but a left-wing Cooke Democrat, you can't declare that if you're in Hollywood, right? So he'd probably have to say he's independent.
Starting point is 00:15:36 But 39, 38, whereas McConaughey, months ago, was way ahead of, of Abbott in a head-to-head competition, at least according to the polls. Now, there's another Republican who's probably not well-known outside of Dallas, and that's Don Huffeinz. He's got a big card dealership empire here. Abbott leads him 77 to 12, so he's probably not a real threat. but just entering the race is Colonel West.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah, Alan West, who former congressman, obviously, been very active in conservative politics for a long time. He's going to be running. He was the chair of the Texas Republican Party for about 15 minutes. Yep. Not very long. No. But he's very well known and well respected, I think, in the conservative community.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And I think he's actually in a poll. that they just conducted a little bit ahead of Governor Abbott. Interesting. Yeah, it is. He's a threat for sure. I would think to Abbott, you know, of course,
Starting point is 00:16:43 our own Chad Prather here from Blaze TV is running as well. This is a crowded field. And it's interesting because Abbott is not like, Greg Abbott is a guy who, if you're not from Texas, you might not have a huge impression of, of Abbott. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:17:02 When I talk to people outside of Texas, what I hear typically is, oh, I wish we had a governor like yours who didn't lock down the whole time and has lifted all these mandates and all that. The exact opposite of what I hear from people in Texas who are just angry at him forever having the mandates. Yes. Right? That's basically the way this breaks down. I was talking to Andrew Wilkow also from Blaze TV, our friend from up.
Starting point is 00:17:26 He lives in New Jersey, I think. Now, his impression of how good of a job Greg Abbott is doing. doing is quite different than I think someone who's living in Texas. Like he's like, they wouldn't let us out of our house for 14 months. So we're, we would love to have anyone who would allow that. I mean,
Starting point is 00:17:46 you know, we, I, everything closed down on basically it was March 16th was March 15th was March 15th or 16th. It was a day that, you know, Trump did the 15 days to start the, to stop the spread speech.
Starting point is 00:18:00 And that led to, of course, another month of slowing the spread. So it turned into to the end of April, where basically nationally we were shut down for six weeks. On May 1st, I went out to a restaurant down the street from this facility. It was 25% capacity. I don't even know if they hit 25% capacity at the restaurant I was at.
Starting point is 00:18:26 But damn, I was at it. I was there shoveling food down my gullet. Isn't that where you contracted COVID as well? Not till later. Okay. I got at a restaurant in Texas much later, Pat. You know, you bring up a sore... As a COVID-19 survivor, you bring up a very sore subject there.
Starting point is 00:18:44 But yes, that... It did happen. It's not a terrible point by you, right? But yes, it did happen. And it can happen. I mean, it definitely is a risk. But, again, it was my choice to go out and shovel food down my gullad in the middle of a pandemic. You know, it was my choice.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And having COVID-19 for you... was a lot like not having COVID-19, right? Yes, it was. It was asymptomatic for me. It was just basically staying home for 10 days. Yeah. Which was not fun. I didn't necessarily enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:19:14 We did have some fun family times, but, you know, when you really can't go out for any reason. Yeah. You know, when you have it. But still, you know, you get through those times. My point, though, with Abbott, though, is that it was, as compared to the nation, he was definitely on the leaning freedom side of the transaction. However, for Texas,
Starting point is 00:19:32 you know, that nothing but, you know, perfection will do on these situations. And, and Abbott has had some problems. I mean, he's, you know. And some people just got unreasonably pissed at him. There's like, like, really, like, just done with him. I'm done with him forever. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:50 No, it's definitely was a, at least around. Look, I work at the blaze, which a bunch of people who were very conservative and very outspoken. So I did hear maybe more than the average Texan did. I mean, and you look at it, it's like, they just did a poll on Greg Abbott's approval rating within the Republican Party. He has a 77% approval rating among Republicans. You should be able to win that way.
Starting point is 00:20:12 If you have a 77% approval, you should win. It's amazing that he has this many challengers when you have a 77% approval rating. Though he's got some challengers and some real ones. Alan West is a real challenger. Alan West is a real challenger. Chad Braithers is really popular, particularly in Texas. You know, Don Huff finds has a lot of. of money. I don't know. But again, like, it's a well-funded candidate is a big challenge to a
Starting point is 00:20:38 to a person. In the poll I just saw, Prather was actually ahead 42 to 35 percent over Allen West. And then I think, Abbott was it 30 or somewhere in there? He was actually in the lead as far as Republicans are concerned. It's interesting. I don't know what's going to happen, but I think these things are, we're in the middle of a cycle to take it out of Texas here for a second we're in the middle of a cycle where there's a there's going to be a cycle here of
Starting point is 00:21:12 of retribution essentially for what happened in the pandemic right I think we're seeing that on the streets right now you know we're seeing that from in political parties where if you didn't do what your base thinks is the right thing you're going to
Starting point is 00:21:28 be targeted and punished and No doubt. And taken during these primaries and people are going to try to exploit it. You know, it was like when we had a series of this, you know, after 2016, there were obviously the Republican Party was sort of split on people who really like Trump and people who didn't like Trump. And the people who spoke out against Trump had a lot of primary challenges from people who were very, very pro-Trump.
Starting point is 00:21:56 You know, we're seeing that now happen with anyone who voted for like the impeachment, for example or you know people who spoke out like you know obviously the most obvious one is Liz Cheney right there are lining there's probably going to be 97 people right it's Liz Cheney in the next primary because there's there's a dividing line there and I think the same thing's going to happen with COVID you know there's a lot of people some Republicans did not go as far on the freedom scale as many southern states did and it's also the reason why you're seeing people circle around Ron DeSantis as a guy who people like because they liked what he did during that period. It was a test, Pat, right? It was a test of your principles.
Starting point is 00:22:38 You know, what is what do you do in a really difficult situation? Do you still favor of freedom? Or is it only when you're running for office? And many of these, even Republican governors are finding out like, oh gosh, maybe I should have been on the side of freedom. Yeah. Because even, look, you're not, people who tried to take that as like, well, if you're on the side of of quote unquote freedom you're trying to kill grandma and it's like well no and outside of freedom you're letting people make their own decisions and look including grandma and that also includes like how you're affecting others right i mean a pandemic is not just an isolated act we all know that that's the problem with a pandemic but people have the the right to be able uh to to to take the risks that they
Starting point is 00:23:25 feel are necessary and also take their responsibilities of actions that might not be might not be so so thoughtful right there's definitely more of those people too so I think this is going to be one of those dividing lines that lasts for a very long time and we're going to have no no choice but to deal with it especially when it comes to financial matters because our country has spent so much money and when I say spent money and what I mean is printed it. I mean, you know, it's like to say that they were spending money that existed before 2020 is sort of sort of a false way of looking at it. I mean, we've just done everything that we were terrified of as conservatives all at once within an 18 month period. And we still
Starting point is 00:24:12 got three, four, five, six trillion dollars to go here. They're going to spend more for doubling and tripling and quadrupling down on this stuff. And you just have to believe there is a point that Where everything breaks. There's a breaking point. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And we don't even have to print it anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:31 That's the beauty of it. We just digitize it. That makes it even more fun to spend. It is. It's just a number. Numbers on a screen. That's all it is. It's a number.
Starting point is 00:24:39 We don't even have to do the paper anymore. So it's so easy to spend money now. And nobody even bats an eye at a billion dollars or $10 billion or $50 billion anymore. That doesn't even phase people. You don't even think, oh my gosh, we're going to spend $50 billion on that? They don't care because it doesn't even have an impact until you get to trillions now. We've become so used to hearing the billion dollar figure. It used to be millions and hundreds of millions.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Then it was billions. Now you're not even phased unless you hear that we're going to spend a trillion dollars. And even then, maybe not very much. You're not worried about it. And this is not, it wasn't that long ago that the word trillion was poison to even Democrats. If you remember going through the post 2008 recovery period, Barack Obama gets elected. He comes in big conversation. He wants to spend $787 billion on, I think that was the recovery one, the stimulus, right?
Starting point is 00:25:50 And then he wanted, it was Obamacare. They worked very hard to manipulate the numbers to keep it underwomen. one trillion. And the final cost was in the 900 billions. Now, of course, it wasn't actually in the 900 billions, but that's how they presented it. And the media, of course, went along with it. Mm-hmm. But they thought if it hit a trillion, the American people will revolt against it.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Now, the American people still sort of revolted against it, at least back then. Now, now they don't even care. Now they don't even care. Now it's part of our culture. And as we said, as soon as this gets, it becomes something that is yours, something you are owed, it will never go away. and that's where we are with Obamacare now, obviously. But at that time, they didn't think it was going to pass.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Remember, they had 60 votes and they were doing this. They had 60 votes in the Senate. And they were saying, we can't get it over a trillion dollars and we'll never get approved. And now we're at the point we're like, well, if we have 50 votes, we can pass a $5 trillion bill, right?
Starting point is 00:26:46 And in the American bill, yeah, of course you can. You got 50 votes. Yeah, sure, go ahead. No problem. And to help you, we'll take Republican in responsibility for another trillion in infrastructure just to make your job
Starting point is 00:26:59 a little easier. Just to make so you can get that extra trillion. You don't have to make it a $6 trillion bill. Make it a $5 trillion bill. We'll take the other trillion on with you. And it all happened so fast. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. ESPN having a little issue again.
Starting point is 00:27:30 ESPN is seemingly always having some issues lately. But this one's kind of a non-issue to I mean, I don't, did she, did Rachel Nichols really do something really horrible? Yes. She did. She did something absolutely horrible.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Horrible, Pat. Okay, tell me about it because I, I was under the mistaken impression that it wasn't that big a deal. Oh, my. What? Yeah, yeah, I was. You bastard. But maybe I don't know the full story. Apparently not.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Okay. So Rachel Nichols is a broadcaster for, on ESPN. She was one of the main NBA announced, uh, hosts of their, you know, their post-game show or whatever pre-game show. She are many, many times. Yep. Very well known. She apparently had an issue where she left on her microphone.
Starting point is 00:28:19 You cannot do this in today's society. That's for sure. Cannot. And had a private conversation, oddly with one of like LeBron James's advisors. He has a... I would have never guessed he had an advisor the way he acts. I mean, I would have totally assumed he's a bad advisor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:36 So whatever. It's a very strange one. Or maybe LeBron ignores everything as advisor advises. Maybe. That's possible. I will say his comments in here are pretty freaking interesting, too, is a side story in this conversation. So basically, Rachel Nichols wants to be the lead anchor of the NBA coverage and realizes after her very long resume and lots of success and very well known, realizes she's not getting
Starting point is 00:29:01 the gig for the 2020 NBA finals. Now, why would that happen? I don't know. She seems to be highly qualified. She seems to be well liked by everybody. I've never heard, you know, you hear bad, occasionally you hear from sports fans. They don't particularly like female announcers as much. They seem to like her.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Beth What's Her Face is a really good example of that. Beth What's Her Face. Beth What's Her Face, who does the play-by-play college football time to time? Have you not watched coverage by play-by-play done by Beth What's Her Face? She's not your favorite. Oh my. No, not my favorite. And that's been a standard complaint from guys over the years, right? I mean, we can admit that that's been something that other guys, not us.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Not us. Beth, what's her face is fine. Now, she's perfectly fine. So, but Rachel Nichols has always been one of the anchors that I thought has been highly, you know, well-respected. Sage Steele is another one on ESPN that I think people really like. I never heard a bad word about her. Female announcers can do great jobs and whatever. So what's interesting here is she's off camera.
Starting point is 00:30:06 She realizes she's losing this gig. She's losing this gig to Maria Taylor. Now, Maria Taylor is a woman as well, an African-American woman. Now, think about you in this situation for a second. If you're Rachel Nichols, you just lost your big primetime gig, right? You're pissed off about it. Now, people at times in those private conversations might say stuff that, you know, like they don't necessarily have evidence of, but they're, you know, expressing frustration.
Starting point is 00:30:33 And especially if, like she says it is, it's in your contract that you're going to have that gig. Right. That you'd especially be upset about it. So here's what she says in a private conversation. She says, I wish Maria Taylor all the success in the world. She covers football. She covers basketball. If you need to give her more things to do because you're feeling pressure about your crappy long time record on diversity, which by the way, I know personally from the female side of it, like go for it.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Just find it somewhere else. You're not going to find it from me or taking my thing away, end quote. Uh-oh. This has been, this is the type of thing at ESPN that it gets turned into an international incident. Now, what's fascinating about this is someone, we don't know who. Who could it be? I don't know. I don't have evidence as to who it was.
Starting point is 00:31:26 But I will say someone held onto this recording for like a year. and has now somehow gotten it to the New York Times right around the moment Maria Taylor is renegotiating her contact with ESPN. Now, look, who could it be? It could be anyone in the whole world. It's like the guy in the Netflix series, I think you should leave with Tim Robinson. Tim Robinson's dressed up as a hot dog in a hot dog costume after a hot dog car crashes into a clothing store. And they're all looking around, who did this? and the guy in the hot dog costume is saying,
Starting point is 00:32:02 I don't know! Who could it be? It could be any of us. It's you in the hot dog costume. You were driving the hot dog car. Now, we don't have any evidence that she was driving the hot dog car in this particular situation.
Starting point is 00:32:16 But it could be, could be, let's give us some scenarios. Could be someone who's aligned with her. Could be someone random. Could be someone who just really cared about racial justice, Pat. Could be someone with just a hardcore belief in racial justice. Who knows who it could be?
Starting point is 00:32:37 But it's interesting that it's coming up particularly at this time. When apparently the belief is that ESPN has offered Maria Taylor multiple millions of dollars, but she wants multiple millions of dollars more. She wants something like $8 million a year. Wow. At least that's the reporting going on right now. I want that too. I want it too.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I want that too. Can I just state that now? I want that too. I want $8 million a year. What I find to be completely fascinating about the story, and first of all, it falls right in to the Pat Gray sweet spot of liberals eating their own. Because if you notice the comments from Rachel Nichols, she's not saying it's unfair to give someone a job they don't necessarily deserve because of their physical characteristics.
Starting point is 00:33:24 She's saying that's fine. They should just take away other people's jobs instead of hers. Right. Right. And she's also saying that she was on this bandwagon already on the female side of it. So she's actually seemingly for people being promoted because of their physical characteristics. Yep. Because she believes there's been some injustice against those people, right?
Starting point is 00:33:48 So she's not against, she wouldn't say like, I think, I don't think she would summarize her position as, I think the best person should get the job no matter what their skin color or gender. right? That's not what she's saying. No. She's saying women should get diversity hires. Maybe even she's saying ESPN has a bad record on diversity. And they should be promoting black women to these roles. Just don't take my gig.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I want that money, not her. Give me the money. Give me the job. She can take some white guy's job. It's basically what she's saying. And does ESPN have a bad record on diversity? because I there are approximately three white men
Starting point is 00:34:30 who work at ESPN now at this point I mean I don't care I really don't care I don't either but if you're going to say they have a problem with diversity there's women and Bipox everywhere on the network
Starting point is 00:34:43 yeah there's like you said maybe three white people left is that too many? Yeah I mean look at our own Jason Woodlock who works here at Blaze TV now just started by the way his show
Starting point is 00:34:55 starting up I don't know if it started He's coming soon. He's got a podcast coming out and everything. He's great, great host. When he was at ESPN, they started, what was it, the undefeated? It was basically supposed to cover the racial, the intersection of race in sports. And Jason was one of the people who started it. And if you know Jason and his views on race and sports in that intersection, they are not
Starting point is 00:35:19 approved by ESPN anymore. That's for sure. And so he's, you know, certainly no longer there. and they took it in a totally different direction, which was essentially if Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ran a sports publication, right? Like, that's what it is now. Which is so weird, because the average sports fan is not there.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yeah, and the average sports fan is not going to the site either. It's more of a political move now than something that could have been really interesting. If you look back at some of Jason's work when he was there, I mean, some of it's fantastic. He's always great, Jason. But, I mean, like, it's fantastic. So what I find to be fascinating about this story, though, is let's just play game theory here for a second, Pat.
Starting point is 00:36:05 How would you win in this scenario? How would you win? We know that Rachel Nichols is in trouble. Why? Because she said they were promoting Maria Taylor to this job because she's a black woman, right? They're trying to just solve these diversity problems. So they've promoted a black woman into the same. role, right?
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yep. What's fascinating about that is that this is specifically the request from the left that you promote people because they are black women, right? Back in the day, the position of everybody was, hire the best person for the job, don't notice their skin color. You shouldn't be noticing their skin color, okay? The new request is the opposite of that. It's you must notice their skin color.
Starting point is 00:36:57 You should give people who are, let's say, African American, a leg up, whether they are the best person for the job or not. You have to give a black person the job, right? We saw this with the Lynn Manuel Miranda movie that came out recently in the Heights, I think it was called, where they got in trouble because they hired almost exclusively Hispanic actors, but not dark-skinned Hispanic. actors are not dark-skinned enough. So it wasn't about that the actors and the singers and the dancers did a bad job or they weren't the most qualified, is that they didn't have dark enough skin to please the woke crowd. So what Rachel Nichols is saying and getting in trouble for and accusing ESPN of doing
Starting point is 00:37:46 is the exact thing the woke people are requiring. So how could you possibly win in this situation? If you say they only put this black woman in this role because she's black, you're bad. However, the woke left is also saying you must put this black woman in this role because she's black. They're saying both sides of the issue. It's impossible to win, first of all. Second of all, you shouldn't even be trying to win because it's, you know, anti-American to, and I think completely wrong, to make decisions based on skin color. It's a thing I've had for a while.
Starting point is 00:38:24 weird inkling throughout my entire life that you should make approximately exactly zero decisions in your entire life based on skin color. That's kind of my philosophy. Where are you getting that kind of nonsense? There's a couple people who else would have felt like that? Yeah, I know. That's ridiculous. It's an outlier of a position to take. It is now. It is now. Who wants you know, MLK's not welcome in the movement anymore. Yeah. Someone's,
Starting point is 00:38:57 you know, there's this book anti-racist baby that we've talked about a few times from Ibram X. Kendi. And it's basically a way to indoctrinate people into this, in babies, literally babies, into this hardcore left-wing woke ideology,
Starting point is 00:39:11 you know, critical race theory. It's all involved in this, even though it's occasionally denied. And someone asked, someone who I know, hey, like, you know, why don't you, you know, they posted something negative about anti-racist baby. And they were like, well, why don't you like, why don't you, what's wrong with it being an anti-racist? It's like, well, I prefer the way MLK went about it. That's, that's the problem
Starting point is 00:39:38 here. I prefer the way MLK thought about it. And I, what is, what we have now is this idea that we should discriminate against certain groups. Yes. To try to even some score done by the their ancient relatives. Like that's what I call nuts. Yep. And wrong. And, you know, I'm not going to teach my kids that. I'm not going to teach babies that.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I think that's the wrong thing to teach them. And it's amazing to see ESPN and try to figure out how to navigate this situation because one is saying you should be woke for women. The other person saying you should be woke for black women. And ESPN should be saying, hey, put the best host on the air. Who's the best host? Put them on the air. and they can't even do that.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Can't do it anymore. Incredible. No, no, no.

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