The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: AG Ken Paxton | 5/17/24

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

Former Trump lawyer turned Trump critic Michael Cohen was caught in a big lie while testifying during Trump’s hush-money trial. Even Cohen’s former lawyer claims that Michael Cohen is untrustworthy. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton joins to discuss Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s pardon of Daniel Perry, who was convicted of murder for shooting a BLM protester despite it being done in self-defense. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Glad you're here. Thank you, Glenn. Welcome to Friday. Yeah. The Michael Cohen testimony. Woo! He's such a trustworthy guy. It's hard to believe

that he'd have some inconsistencies on the stand. But I mean, you can't, anything's on the table these days. Yeah. Who would have thought. It is amazing.

Listen, I want to play, cut one, Anderson Cooper, talking about this last night. The last 20 minutes of court today right before the lunch break, it was incredible. I mean, it was, you know, Ellie Honig on my program last night had talked about, you know, on a cross-examination, lawyers want to kind of put the witness in a, you know, build a box around the witness and then slam it shut. That's what Todd Blanche did to Michael Cohen.

It was an extraordinary cross-examination by Todd Blanche. And, you know, Michael Cohen's, throughout the day, Michael Cohen, when cornered in, when he found himself in a corner, he does have a pattern of suddenly not understanding the question that's being asked. It seemingly kind of, I mean, one could say buying time to try to figure out what, how he wants to answer. But he definitely suddenly starts to, you know, have a Todd Blanche repeat questions and say, I don't quite understand what you mean. I'm confused by the question. But this time, Michael Cohen was cornered in what appeared to be a lie, I think, to many in the room, and had to adjust suddenly his memory that he had just testified to on Tuesday. Adjust his memory is a great phrase.

Let me play one more cut from CNN. This is an analysis on CNN about that moment. Listen, cut to. I don't think I've ever seen a star cooperating witness get his knees chopped out quite as clearly and dramatically as what just happened with Michael Cohen. I've certainly seen very effective cross-examinations of coopering witnesses. I've seen aspects of their story cut into and called into question, but this goes to the heart of the allegation here. That phone call on October 24th, and it looks to the jury and to Anderson Cooper and Karriskenal and Judge George Grasso, who were all in the courthouse, that that was a devastating moment. So here's what happened.

Michael Cohen is on the stand, and he's testifying about a phone call that happened. The whole case is really pinned to this phone call. And Michael Cohen has been saying, yeah, I called the boss, and I told him we're going through with a deal, need your approval. Okay. Well, what Michael Cohen didn't know, apparently, is that the defense had all of the text messages between Michael Cohen. and the guy he actually called, which was Trump's, you know, security guy. Keith Schiller, yeah. Yeah.

And so he was texting back and forth because Michael Cohen was having some 14-year-old hassle him and making crank phone calls to his phone, which makes me happy. I'd love to know who that 14-year-old kid is. I'd like to give him some meat. But anyway, he's writing and texting back to. the security and saying this kid is is constantly calling me. What do I do? How do I do it? Who do I talk to? And the security guy says, I can help. Call me. That was two minutes before the phone call. So they started with the testimony saying, really? So you were calling Trump. It looks like you didn't

talk to Trump. It looks like you talked to security. What did you talk about? Well, I told him we were going to, really, because two minutes before, you're asking him about a phone call and he says, call me and you called him right back. Well, that was part of it. And the whole thing fell apart from there. Yeah. This is devastating. Yeah, I mean, the claim by Cohen now, again, there's been, he's told every version of the story. So the whole point of this is we're supposed to believe him today and not the other times he's told the story. But on the stand, it seemed to change. Basically, he says he, they had this text exchange about the 14-year-old.

And if you didn't think Cohen was an idiot. Please, if you're the 14-year-old or know the 14-year-old, please have him call me. He's not 14 anymore, but yes. I know, but I would love to hear his story. Yes. So he's a 14-year-old. He's pranking Cohen. and apparently Cohen has an issue figuring out who he's talking to.

He's talking to actually a 14-year-old. So they're having a back-and-forth. They think this might be a problem. They call Schiller. They have a text message exchange about this with Schiller. Then he calls Schiller, and Cohen's testimony is basically he talks to him and has a full conversation about the 14-year-old prank calls and then also has a conversation about the Stormy Daniel's payment.

But wait, wait, wait, on Tuesday, he didn't mention the other part. Right. He didn't mention the 14-year-old. Right. No, I know. This is his, I'm trying to keep these all separate. This is his new telling of this story. Right, right.

The new telling is he has this conversation and he has a conversation with another person on the same call, which is Donald Trump, and he updates him on the Stormy Daniel case. This all occurs in 96 seconds. Now, look, it's not impossible, I guess, if just everyone goes, okay, all right, here he is, okay, bye. Like, I guess all that detail could theoretically be jammed into 96 seconds, but it doesn't make sense. He's, he, the first, the email, the first email about that 14 year old kid is, this kid is calling me, I don't know what to do, blah, blah, blah, the guy says, call me. just explaining. Explaining that, right.

That's 90 seconds. That's a minute and a half. Just explaining that. What do you then say about the Trump thing? Tell Donald Trump we're going to be doing the, you know, we're doing the cash thing too, click. I mean, that makes no sense. And if it was done that way,

there was no conversation. He just blurted it out. Yeah. It is fascinating. And it's fascinating to think about separately from just the Trump legal ramifications of this. But just the Michael Cohen ramifications, this is a guy who was in front of everyone's face lying constantly, constantly when he was on, when he was employed by Donald Trump. Yeah. And to the point of that like every, I mean, I didn't know a lot of conservatives who liked him, but certainly every liberal hated him.

and now Cohen has reversed course completely and is now lying against Donald Trump and of course has received largely what you'd expect from the media which is all the sudden this newfound credibility all the sudden they love him and all the sudden he's best friends. Now he's lost everybody on the right, right?

So now the only thing he has left is on the left but the only thing he has remaining is on the left. Glenn, what happens to this guy if they don't get this conviction? he is going to have no friends. Everyone is going to hate this guy. You know, he'll get what he deserves. He'll get the life that he deserves,

which is to be completely discredited. Somebody who's an alcoholic and lost my credibility. When I was it, when I hit bottom, I lost my family. I lost absolutely everything. I was living in an apartment. Stu was an intern. at the time. We lived in the same building.

That's true. I mean, I was at rock bottom. I was literally making zero dollars an hour and had the same, and it was in the same apartment building as you. So, you know, and when you lose everything, I found when I was literally down on my knees feeling sorry for myself, I remember praying, Lord, all I want. back is my name. I just want my credibility. I will do whatever you tell me to do. I just want to be

able to look at people in the eye and say, this is what I believe is true, and for them to at least consider that I'm telling the truth. When you lose your credibility, you have nothing. So this guy is about to receive the worst punishment, I think, and it's always self-imposed, well, not always in today's world, but it's usually self-imposed. You've just lied to everybody and you've burned every bridge. And that's usually what an alcoholic does just to hide their alcoholism. And there's nothing more valuable. You can lose everything. But if you lose your word and your honor, you have nothing, nothing. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Well, the day has finally come to a close as you ease yourself down into bed.

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What do you mean? Where you have, it's not really a trial, but it's an attorney and it's sort of like, I mean, there's testimony going on at the house that is vitally important to what we're talking about here. This is Cohen's former attorney, Costello is his name. Robert Costello. Robert Costello. And he was the attorney. If you think about the timeline of Cohen, Cohen's the big Trump guy. He gets raided.

And in that moment, he needs an attorney. And he gets Robert Costello to be his attorney. Now, in the interim, since that went on, Cohen allowed Costello to get out of his attorney-client privilege. Why? That part I don't actually remember. I remember going through this a while ago and trying to understand that, and I don't remember how that ended up. I think, you know, I mean, Cohen was certainly trying to portray to everyone that he was

completely an open book, and he didn't care about what anyone, you know, said about him. And he, you know, he was transparent now, and he's had this big awakening. I don't know if it was part of that process or what, but basically Costello is now free to talk about his conversations in private with Cohen and go on television and talk about it. So let me give you, let me set this up with a clip of him. This is a longer clip, but it's of House testimony, where Costello is talking about what Cohen told him in this moment in 2018. And keep in mind, this is a weird period. He hasn't fully turned on Trump at this point, but he is panicking. And remember, he's not panicking. He didn't get in trouble over the

stuff he had to do with Donald Trump. This was stuff that he had, Cohen had on his own, issues with taxi medallions and a bunch of nonsense and tax issues that he was in serious trouble for. Hang on just a sec. Taxi medallions are a New York thing. You have to have this big metal medallion on the hood of your taxi. No, it's not. That's not what, no. No, it's not. No, it's not taxi medallions like that? No, no. What was it? So taxi, I mean, maybe with Michael Cohen, I would, not be surprised if that's what he thought they were when he bought them. But no, medallions are basically like a pass. There's only a certain amount of medallions they give out. And if you get a medallion, you can drive a cab around the city. Exactly right. Those those are marked

on the car by this medallion that they put on. And there are hundreds of thousands of dollars. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. I don't know. I was picturing Michael Cohn with a giant gold chain as you said that. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. No, no. No, no. Yes. But yeah, it's basically the rights to have a cap. Now, there's a limited a number of them, so they became very expensive. The very typical thing governments do, right? They put a false scarcity on a market. It makes these things really expensive. People come in, they buy them, they sell them, they try to make lots of money. Now, of course, Uber came around and blew this whole thing up. So anyway, he had all sorts of problems tied to that and other business dealings that we don't have time to get into. But the bottom line was this was a very desperate moment. for him. And I want to bring this now back to the testimony in the House. This is his former attorney at that time, Robert Costello. Through further cross-examination, Cohen told me that he knew there was money missing from the Trump inauguration. I see where you are now. Okay. And then on the next page, end of that first paragraph, Cohen decided that while he didn't believe the allegation

of the Stormy Daniels story, that he thought the story would be embarrassing for Trump and especially for Melania, so he decided he would take care of it himself. Absolutely, and that is contrary to what this guy testified to in court in New York yesterday. Well, and what's not being talked about is your next paragraph, like the reason and his motivation for that. So if you could just kind of walk through that for the committee? Yeah, obviously when we started to talk about the NDAs, and this is the very first meeting at the Regency Hotel, when by the way, Rudy Giuliani was not involved in representing Donald Trump at that time. Pohn testified that it was a conspiracy between Giuliani and Costello as of this date, totally false. In any event, he also said that

he didn't discuss the Stormy Daniels matter with us, and he certainly did. I specifically asked him because he kept on going back saying, I can't believe they're trying to put me in jail for these NDAs. So I said, Michael, tell me about the NDA. Tell me about Stormy Daniels. What did you do. He said, I got a call from a lawyer representing Stormy Daniels who represented that she was going to testify that Donald Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels. Michael Cohen said, I didn't believe the allegation, but I knew that such an allegation would be terribly embarrassing. He said, it would be embarrassing. He focused on Melania Trump. He said, I didn't want to embarrass Melania Trump. He said, That's why I decided to take care of this on my own.

I went back to that several times. You did this on your own? On my own. Did Donald Trump have anything to do with it? No. Did you get the money from Donald Trump? No. From any of his organizations?

No. From anybody connected to Donald Trump? No. Where did you get the money? I took out a HELOC loan against my property. I said, why would you do that? He said, I didn't want anybody to know where I got this money. I didn't want Melania to know.

I didn't want my own wife to know because she's in charge, he said, of the Cohn family finances. He said, if she saw money coming out of my account, she'd ask me 100 questions and I didn't want to answer any of them. It was clear after talking to him for several days after that, whenever we talked on the phone or in my office, that he kept on bringing up the subject that he felt he was betrayed by not being brought down to Washington, D.C. This guy thought, he said to me that he should have been a Attorney General of the United States, or at least the chief assistant to the president. Ludicrous, but that's what he thought. And he was very angry about that.

He wanted to do something to put himself back into the inner circle of Donald Trump. That's why he took care of this on his own. It had to be a motivation. Unbelievable. Michael Cohn is always working for things that benefit himself. And that's what he was doing here. That's completely different to what he said that he told the grand jury. that's completely different to what he's testifying to in New York.

Nobody has heard this side of the equation. Right. This is incredible because this is Michael Cohen's former lawyer who Michael Cohen gave him permission to, you know, violate attorney client privilege. That is absolutely, absolutely falls directly in line with who we know Michael Cohen is. I mean, yeah, it does.

And the grand jury wouldn't listen to this. They tried to cut them off, cut them off, cut them off, listen to this. When was this clip from Fox? It's a couple of days ago, but this is from Fox News. Before I testified on a Monday before the grand jury, I gave Alvin Bragg's assistant DAs the courtesy of about an hour and a half Zoom conference, where I told them all of the exculpatory material that I had that they were supposed to put before the grand jury.

But when I appeared before the grand jury, they were asking me questions that, in my opinion, and I've been a federal prosecutor myself, I was Deputy Chief of the Criminal Division in the Southern District of New York, those questions they were asking me were not going to elicit the exculpatory information that I had. So I began to expand upon my answers,

and the DA's office was trying to shut me down saying that I had finished my answer. And I told them that when I'm in the middle of answering a question, I'll decide when I finish my answer. And I asked them not to interrupt me again. But basically, they only put in a small cherry-picked group of emails. I presented maybe two to 300 emails and text messages to them. I had them with me, luckily, in chronological order. They put two or three in to evidence. I asked them, are you going to put the rest of them into evidence and they said no. What's fascinating about this, a couple of things, Glenn, is Costello is not like a Michael

Cohen. He's not just some like crappy attorney. As he mentions, he's had like high level jobs. He was a prosecutor. He's done all of this stuff. He's well respected. Yeah. Yeah. Respected attorney. Yes. There's no, there's no debate about that. And what he's saying he did is he went to Alvin Bragg and said, hey, like, you guys should know this stuff. Like you're in the middle of going through this and you don't, you're not aware that this guy has told the exact opposite story. Let me lay it out to you. He basically warns them, don't go forward with this because you don't have all the information. They take that information and when they talk to him specifically design questions so that he won't be able to get to the information he's brought in.

And he realizes this as someone who's gone through this process, he's a former process. he's a former prosecutor. He knows how this stuff works. So he realizes they're trying to lead him away from the stuff that will actually make Michael Cohen look bad. And he, of course, has a major issue with this. Glenn, I mean, I don't know. I mean, if you're Donald Trump, you're looking at this and things have gone pretty well for you in this trial. Oh, my God. Do you extend this and call Costello to the stand next week?

I would. I absolutely would. And because he's not a, he's not a friendly witness. He's a neutral witness. He's just telling the truth and has the stuff to back it up. I have to tell you, as I'm listening to this, all I can think of is, who do I know that is a credible investigative journalist that will do all of the homework and join with me to write a book on the attempted assassination of the president of the United States? Because all of the information now is there. and this whole thing from the Russia gate,

all of this stuff, we now have the truth, but nobody's tied all of it together to show you this plot. We know it, we've lived it, but somebody needs to document in hard facts the entire plot from 2015 all the way to 20, today because I've never seen anything like it and no one has paid a price for it. It's extraordinary in American history. I don't think there's ever been anything like this. And this is a modern day assassination attempt. You and I both know, and I hate to even address stuff like this, but you and I both know,

there are those people, and I don't know who they are and I don't know how many there are. But there are those people that hate Donald Trump so much because they will destroy, because he will destroy their plans for a new world order, they will, they would at least consider an actual assassination if this doesn't work. And that's terrifying. But this is a modern day assassination of a man's character and it's it's a gigantic conspiracy that is now out in the open. In the sense of the Clarence Thomas high-tech lynching, right? It's that same type of approach. Exactly right. So do you buy the left-wing pushback on Costello is basically that at this time, Cohen had not turned against Donald Trump? So the idea is,

that Cohen goes in there. He's still defending Donald Trump because he has not turned on him yet. And he's saying all these things, which is essentially his public line. I know it was me. I did it. They had nothing to do with it. I don't think they slept together, all this stuff. And Costello gets that out of him.

And the idea is Costella had a relationship with Giuliani, which is he kind of brought that up in one of the clips. He's being accused essentially of being a setup. Trump gives him Cohen or Trump gives him Costella because he knows he'll get this out of him and then he can use it against him later. Okay, so here's how I would respond to that. First of all, explain the testimony yesterday from Cohen. Explain it. You can't. You now know, and even CNN has admitted it looks very much like he lied. Okay. So we know who he is. We know he's lied in the past.

And now a credible attorney under oath, who is able to say attorney-client privilege, who has no record of being a liar, he comes and he says this. So wait a minute. So the left, they knew that Cohen was lying under Donald Trump, and so did we, when he was a friend of Donald Trump. We knew he was lying. So he was a liar then. We know from yesterday he's a liar now.

This attorney says he's not only a liar, but Alvin Bragg is so distorting the truth that he's a liar. But forget about Bragg. Just look at Cohen. How do you pick and choose when Cohen is lying? You can't. He has no credibility. He cannot.

You cannot. trust a word he says. And this guy hasn't lied, least that I know of. So he has credibility as a credible attorney. The only thing they can do is, again, assassinate a man's character. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Our attorney general from the great state of Texas, Ken Paxton, Ken. How are you? Welcome. Well, great to be back. Happy Friday. Thank you. Yesterday, the governor did something that I am very grateful for. He pardoned Daniel Perry, who shot and killed a Black Lives Matter protester in self-defense. A jury in 2023 found that he was guilty. Tell the story and why it was logical and important to pardon him.

Well, so I called for his pardon immediately when he, he was convicted. You have to realize where he's at. First of all, he's in Austin. Travis County, one of the most liberal Soros-funded DAs in the country. For people that don't know, Austin is the closest thing you can get to San Francisco in Texas. Yes, we hate to say it that way, but it's true. It's a super liberal city. And justice there is not justice like it used to be. It's very political. And so they prosecuted this guy. And I can tell you somebody who's done some training on shooting

and doing simulations where you have hostage situations, those decisions that you have to make, when somebody's pointing a gun at you, you're probably too late. And if you wait for somebody to fire, you're very likely dead, especially for the AR-15. So this guy ended up in the middle of,

he was a driver, and he ended up in the middle of a protest, with BLM and Black Lives Matter and surrounding his car, right? Surrounding his car, he thought, I mean, you're talking about intent, you know how those. You've seen it a million times. Yeah, and there was damage.

People got hurt, probably got hurt. It wasn't like they were all peaceful protests. Most of them weren't. So, yeah, I mean, it's true. It's just nothing ever happened to any of those people that, that I know of that did the property damage and hurt other people. So the guy, the guy with the, the, the weapon, pointed at him and Perry shot him and defended himself.

And look, who knows what would have happened? Who knows what the guy? They're saying the guy didn't have any ammunition. How do you know? If you're, that's what they said. You know what? That's what the prosecutor tried to find. I got to tell you, if a cop points a gun, I'm holding a gun, it's empty.

Even if it's a plastic gun that looks like a gun and I'm pointing it at a cop and he shoots me, he's right to shoot me. I'm stupid for pointing a gun, loaded, unloaded, unloaded, a toy, it doesn't matter. Exactly. And you've nailed it on the head, and somehow, this guy ends up getting convicted 25 years in prison for merely protecting himself. You cannot know. If you wait for the other person to shoot, especially for the AR-50, you are likely dead.

You have to defend yourself, and you have to make a split-second decision. which is not an easy decision. So he was convicted by a jury of his peers, and yesterday, Governor Abbott did what you've been asking for for a while, pardoned him. A, is there a reason why it took this long because he was convicted in 2023, and what are the ramifications of the pardon?

I applaud Governor Abbott for what he's done. Yeah, and I do too. He did the right thing. So it's not up to Governor Abbott initially to make the pardon. He appoints the board of pardon and parol. And then they have to look at it. They have to analyze it. However long they take, they take.

There's nothing that we can do about who's on that board. I mean, Abbott appoints them. But as far as what they need to go through, what process needs. So they went through their process. It took, you know, longer than I would have hoped. But they at least went through the process. And then Abbott can agree with it or not agree with it. And he went with it.

So, you know, look, he put the. right people on the board that took this seriously, spent their time and commuted this guy's sentence and pardoned. And then Abbott was able to pardon him. So I applaud that justice actually can happen in this country, but sometimes it's not in a liberal Democratic court in Austin. So when they did this, I mean, it's been, you know, almost a year since he's been found guilty and he's been in jail. When when they did this, they started that process right. right away. Let me ask it this way. They did do diligence. I mean, they tore this. It wasn't something like, you know, I read this in the paper and I think this is wrong. What do you think,

Bill? They did work hard on the diligence, right? Yeah, they took it seriously. I mean, just from the time that it took to get this done, this didn't happen quickly. This guy has still been in jail for, I think, well over a year. So it's not like it was some, you know, little half a little amount of time. They took it seriously and they took some time and trying to figure this out. Well, was this justice? And I think they got the right answer. And I'm glad we have this process.

And this is a really, this is a huge change in Texas. I mean, we are, we are a right to carry state, open carry without a license. We are a, we're a state that has the castle doctrine and it is, we hold true to that. here's a guy who was shooting in self-defense, and it went to the court, and they found him guilty. In Texas, that's massive, isn't it? Yeah, it is massive. We have not only a careful doctrine that allows you to defend your home

if somebody comes in. You don't have to, like, ask them, if they've come into your home, you have a right to defend it. You don't have to wait for them to shoot you. And the same is true if it's called Stand Your Ground Doctrine. if somebody has a weapon that is pointed at you, and look, this guy had a right, the guy with the A.R. 50 had a right to carry the weapon, but should he have carried a weapon and should he have pointed it? I mean, that creates, if you've got that kind of weapon and

you're pointing it, you should not expect that somebody might be worried that you're going to shoot them. It's crazy to have to wait and to shoot you before you can actually exercise your right to defend yourself. And he didn't pay any price for brandishing him in firearm. As far as I know, no prosecution of him. And no question of him carrying a weapon. You'd think like, you know, Austin and other places would have gone nuts. Some of the Democratic politicians that are calling Abbott and saying, calling him out on this, saying that, you know, he's a white nationalist or something.

What about the guy that actually had the weapon? Why does that? Why do they never talk about that? They never talk about it. Does this establish any precedent in law at all in Texas? Is this something that's going to come and haunt us this ruling by the, jury and judge? You know, it's Austin.

I think we're going to be haunted by Austin for a long time. Okay, but it won't affect other. No, no, no. I, you know, it's an individual jury ruling, and so no other place is required to prosecute and convict and put people in prison for self-defense. You're not, as a matter of fact, it's a violation of the law to do that, and it doesn't hold any kind of precedent at all. Good.

Can I change the subject and unfair because we didn't alert you that I would talk about this, so I don't know if you're... Those are my favorite topics, the ones that I don't know about. Okay, good. I know. Have you been watching the Trump trial in New York? I was there. I was that. I showed up like two weeks ago, I think I'm the first person to show up. And I went there and I was, if you want to know my opinion, I was stunned. Like, I knew it was bad. But when I, I sat there in the morning and I, I went into the room of the president and was lawyers. And I kind of pulled this lawyer to say, I said, I don't understand why you don't object to hearsay. and they said, well, we're not, we're not allowed to object it.

I said, what are you talking about? You have to object it here. And I said, no, we're prevented by some rule. And they made no sense to me. And sure enough, we go back in and they tried to object. They said, objection. I think they were just trying to show me. And the objected, and the judge said, overrule.

And I'm like, don't you have to state your objections before it's overrul? He didn't even let them state the objection. Right. So they say object, and then the, this is the way it works, at least on TV. I object, Your Honor. On what grounds? and then they have to say it, and then he says overruled or sustained. And he's not asking the defense,

and I understand he's not even asking the prosecution, right? I never, of course, I only saw one objection the whole day because it was overruled without them stating what the objection was, which I've been in court enough to know how objections work. I don't typically be litigation, but I know enough about, I know enough about like, you know, hearsay. It's pretty basic, right? Objection.

That's hearsay. The judge is supposed to give you a ruling on that based on the law and the rules of evidence. And guess what? That never was allowed that I saw. That's insane. Unbelievable. How do you see the testimony yesterday from Cohen? I did not see the testimony.

Yeah. I'd love to hear your opinion on that. He's, he, I mean, even CNN said they've never seen a witness cut in half like this. He was caught in his own lie about the phone call that he made. I mean, the prosecution just barbecued him. In New York, is it like Austin? Do you think facts will matter when they're that clear? here's what I'd say. I think in general, if you have a pretty liberal jury pool, many of them have already decided when they walked in, and that's why they've got them in that spot. However, there's a lot of jurors, and you can just hope and pray that one of them at least will have the courage to actually listen to the testimony and listen to the evidence, if there is any, and make the right decision about this and realize this is something we've never seen before where we're not just in New York, but all these other places where a former president is being prosecuted,

the things that happened a long time to go, and it's all being prosecuted six months before the election. There's no accident to that. No. One last thing. You know, our universities around the country have been set on fire. We know we've tracked it. We know they're being funded by the deep left, George Soros, really bad organizations. They're very well planned.

They're planning on, you know, all kinds of things this fall. are we prepared for what could happen in the fall? I don't know if we're prepared because, I mean, all of this is sort of unprecedented, and it's hard when you don't control all the levers of government, whether it's, you know, the DAs and all these big cities or certain areas that are that are progressive like Austin or San Antonio, it's hard to be fully prepared because we have different people in leadership that have a different, agenda and there's certainly people that are sympathetic to Hamas and who would just as soon see you know

Israel just you know destroyed. Ken, thank you so much. Have we made any progress on securing the vote? You know what? I told you when I was on there last time my biggest fear, I just saw an article today that said between 10 and 27 percent of the illegals that have come into the country have registered to vote. I don't know what the number is. I'm not if that's an accurate. But I truly believe that's to gain. Get them elected. Get them here. That's why they started day one of the Biden administration telling the cartels, bring your people and get them here because they want to get as many registered to vote because only three states actually have laws that have been upheld that allow for citizenship to, if you're a non-citizen, to exclude you from voting. So only three states have

that? Three states have tried to pass beyond that. They're in the middle of litigation. I think Kansas and there's a few others. So potentially we could at in Alabama, I think there's total of six states that have tried. We had it in Texas, Glenn, but you'll know this name. Dade Feele and a Republican speaker killed it for the Democrats so that we don't have any protection from non-citizen vote because Dade Feelein went out of his way to make sure that non-citizens, illegals, could vote in Texas. Well, that's really disheartening. Thank you so much, Ken, for everything you do. Keep us up to speed on these things and anything we can do to help, you know. Let me just say this one thing.

It is this, it is disheartening, but there is hope because in the end, we know that God can do anything. So just like the founders had no, they had no hope, and they had no hope that France was going to help them. And guess what? Yeah, I know. Here we are today. Everything but God. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

I don't mean to discourage anybody. You know, I think you felt discouraged about how out of control our country is. But if we all go out and vote, I don't, I mean everybody who cares about the Republic. This is the moment. I mean, the campaign slogan should be, save the Republic. Not make America great again. Save the Republic.

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