The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Andy Ngo | 10/21/26

Episode Date: October 21, 2026

Glenn sets the record straight on his views on the Bubba effect, as many seem confused about whether the Bubba effect is sometimes a useful tool or a dangerous precedent. A leaked ad from Ohio gubernatorial candidate Vivek Ramaswamy's (R) campaign is under fire for highlighting the mother of his opponent, Amy Acton, who accuses her daughter of being a habitual liar. Journalist Andy Ngo joins to discuss what he has learned about the bizarre, Mason-like world of the Zizians, a radical transgender cult-like group.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

on the podcast today, the Bubba Effect, Insider Q&A, also family drama in politics, Vivek and Amy, the attack in Ohio. It is truly amazing. And Andy No, the Zizians author, Senior Editor of the Post-Millennial, he talks about this trans cult, death cult. It is frightening and bizarre. And you've missed a lot if you missed the rest of the show today, you might want to grab the full context at glenbeck.com slash torch and listen to it all, including the insider broadcast. We ask you to join us and support our effort. But, you know, if you want a free load, okay, here is the best of. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

All right, so yesterday we talked about the bubble effect, and I think there's a lot of misunderstanding of what the Bubba effect is. And this is not a term that I made up. This is something I learned from special forces around 2004. This is an actual, this is, you know, this is this part of history. You can see it happen over and over and over again in revolutions. And it's very, very dangerous. So let me explain a little bit more through your questions that came into me yesterday.

Glenn, this is from Kyle and Rebecca and Scott and a few other people. Glenn, we have voted for decades and it only gets worse. We have no representation. All we have left is Baba. Okay, I understand that frustration. I have felt it. But voting isn't the only tool and it was never supposed to be the only tool. School boards, county commissioners, sheriffs, state legislatures. This is where the country is truly one or lost and most people don't show up for any of it. And the other side does all the time.

And if the other side is now talking about civil war, what is the worst thing you can do? Fight on the terms they want. You know they have been itching for a fight. They have wanted. They've spent 25 years calling you every name under the sun to get you to respond. Why is that the wrong thing to do? Because you don't beat lawlessness by becoming lawless. you beat it by becoming more organized and the most organized people in the room.

Next question. From Jaws, Waz, Al-2374, and Danger Mouse. Glenn, the government has already broke the Constitution. Bubba is just enforcing the law it abandoned. Okay. If the problem is that the government has stopped following the Constitution, rules, then would the answer be we should stop following the rules too? Because wouldn't that put us in a position where nobody has rules? Free speech, protest, refusing to comply with an unconstitutional

order that is all American. And that is not the Bubba effect. The Baba effect starts when one man decides that he is judge, he is the jury, he is the sheriff. And the day you appoint yourself that. You've done what you're accusing them of. I mean, why is, you know, the guy who went up and killed the, uh, the healthcare official. Why is that wrong? Because he appointed himself judge and jury. And what did they do? Yeah, well, there's a problem and nobody will fix it. And so that's the Bubba effect. Now, let's just say we all rise up. This is the real problem that I need you to Let's say you all rise up. Everybody rises up.

Everybody's in the Bubba effect. Can I ask you, what is the plan from there? Well, we're going to get the bad guys out. Who are the bad guys? And let's say we get all the bad guys out. How have we done that? Did we do that with guns? Did we do that with trials?

Who ran the trials? Who picked the judges? When do we know it's time to stop? Are we just hoping that reason will kick in? Because it hasn't so far. I don't know if you've known that. Reason is not getting stronger. You know, when there's blood and a frenzy for blood in the street,

show me how or when reason suddenly kicked in before it got horrific. See, this is the key. Going back to the declaration, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing the same object invinces a design, to reduce the people under absolute despotism. It is their right. It is their duty to throw off such government.

That's Bubba. But that's not where it stops. And to provide new guards for their future security. What are the new guards? What are the new rules? We are not talking about... Bubba on our side would just say, we're just going to go back to the Constitution.

But you can't dismiss the Constitution. and then expect to go back to the Constitution. Glenn, what if Bubba is organized, discipline, and starts with the Constitution? Is it still Bubba? This comes from Lawrence and Caroline and Georgia, Jasper, and Mellow Yellow. The answer here, is it still Bubba? No. No, then it's not Baba anymore.

I want you to go and read about Athens, Tennessee, in 1946. This proves it. Veterans came home. They had watched a corrupt machine steal their election in Tennessee. They had just come back fighting fascism and communism, okay? They come back, they see that their whole town has been taken by basically a dictator, a mob rule. They organized. They protected the ballot boxes. So people will say, well, that's above effect. No, no, no, no, no, no. First of all, they didn't fight. on anybody first. They defended themselves. They defended themselves. And what were they defending? They were trying to get the ballot box. And when they got the ballot box, they didn't break it open.

They didn't break it open and do the count themselves. No, they called a higher authority and said, we have the ballot box. We're protecting the lock on the ballot box. We need you to come and be the neutral arbiter to make sure that everything is counted openly and in public. And then they handed the power back to the ballot box and went home. They had a goal. They had a limit. They had an off ramp. Who decides when the government is wrong?

Mellow Yellow is right about this. The government or the people do. Not the government. The people do. But the people decide together through rules that we agree on beforehand. hand. Not one angry guy at a time. Not one mob. If you start to see mob rule on your side, we're done. Glenn, we're too divided to revolt. And when most people agree, it isn't Bubba, it's the national mood. Exactly right. When the country moves together as a whole under shared

principles, that's a nation making a decision. When we're this divided, Baba isn't the start of a revolution. He's a start of a feud. Let's see. Glenn, Bubba effect is chaos. Even war has its rules. Yes, that is the warning in one sentence. Glenn, blessed beyond Texas, in North Carolina hurricanes,

it was the Bubba's who showed up and saved people before the government did. That's not the Bubba effect. That's not understanding that this is an official term. I'm not saying Bubba. this is a term. The Bubba effect is a term that has a definition. What you're talking about is neighbors. A man with a boat and a chainsaw pulling families out of floodwater. That's the best of America. I'm not warning about people who build and rescue. I'm warning about people who destroy and punish. Glenn, Jesuits armed the native people to defend against slave raiders. Wasn't that, Baba? Do you see this sentence? Hoffman.

the Jesuits armed the native people to defend against slave raiders. Wasn't that about it? No, this is a great example, and it points in the exact opposite direction. The Jesuits in South America, they didn't hand everybody out guns and then say, hey, good luck, everybody, go get them. They got permission, they trained, they organized them, and they fought a defensive battle to protect the villages from slavers. That's totally different.

That's lawful self-defense with a clear purpose. That's the opposite of the Bubba effect. Last one here. Glenn, quit using Bubba in a negative way. A contrail killer. Okay. It's fair enough. I understand.

It's not about the guy in the pickup. Most Bubba's I know are the first ones that are at your door when you need help. The name is shorthand for one thing. It is an actual term. What happens when good people, get so angry, they stop asking what comes after the anger. It's a term. It's not a slight on anybody in America. I thought about this a lot last night because I've never had pushback on this. I've talked about this from 2004. And I think people are now getting so angry that you're starting

to lose sight of what the warning actually is. And that's bothersome. I found something, I don't know how many people read Charles Dickens anymore, but if you want to see it in the tale of two cities, Charles Dickens wrote it, and it was like 170 years ago in the tale of two cities. And it's Madame Defarge. She has a real grievance. In the first part of the book you're going to read and you're going to be like, oh, man, she's great.

I love her. She's a hero, okay? when she was a girl, a French rich guy, took her sister and destroyed her. Her brother tried to defend the family's honor and was run through with a sword. So this, the noble man walks away. I mean, it's the story, you know, with swords. It's the story you're living today. There's no trial.

There's no punishment. There's nothing for the bad guys because they're the elites. And if anyone has a right to be angry, it is her. So she waits. and while she waits, she knits. And she sits in her wine shop in Paris, and she's knitting, and the needles are clacking away day after day. And what she's knitting, the stitches are a code. She is knitting the names of every person she wants dead when the revolution comes.

So when the revolution comes, the guilty are dragged to the guillotine. And that's not enough for her. halfway through the book you're going to be like oh boy she's not really a good person okay the man who hurt her family he's already dead but that's not good enough for her she wants satisfaction so she goes after his nephew a man who renounced his title and walked away from all of it but that's not good enough either so she goes after his wife then his little daughter and a child who was not even born when the when the crime was committed. This is where justice turns into an appetite. This is why I said, tell me where reason

kicks in because it doesn't. She's no longer asking who did it. She's only asking who is next. Now notice what's missing from her list. There's no plan. There's no vision of a better France. Nothing about what gets built when the killing stops. Do you notice that that you notice that that the founders, they weren't just mad. They didn't just get mad and they're like, let's go throw some tea into the water. They didn't do that. They had spent decades talking about what they would build,

not what they're going to destroy, what they would build. The killing becomes a plan in France. Now, how does she die in the end? I hate to wreck this, but you're not going to read it anyway. She goes to the house to hunt. down that child. And she finds an English nursemaid

standing in the doorway, and they struggle. And the pistol that Madame Defarge brought in to kill the innocent goes off in her own hands. She's dead. She's destroyed by the weapon she carried in. I would think that he was trying to make... Dickens was trying to make a point here. Dickens was making the point that France learned the hard way.

The revolution will eat its own. The men who started the terror ended up under the same blade. And France didn't get liberty. It got Napoleon because people will always say anything to make the chaos stop.

Now, the reason why I brought up the Bubba effect yesterday was because this is starting in England. And so I'm looking for signs of it happening in the West because if we're not careful, it will come here. Our founder

had grievances. They wrote them all down. 27 of them. You can read them in the Declaration of Independence. But they didn't stop at the list of wrongs. In fact, the reason why our declaration is so important to the world is it started with what they were going to build, not what they were going to destroy. They sat in a hot room in Philadelphia argued all summer long about what should come next. And our declaration starts with that. That we owe it to you. Before we break up, we owe it to you. And the world to tell you,

we hold these truths to be self-evident. They were writing a declaration and a constitution. Madam Defarge was knitting a list of people she wanted to kill. A grievance can tell you what to tear down, but it will never tell you what to build. So before anybody picks up needles, ask the question that Madam Defarge never asked. and then what?

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and we really want to thank you for listening. Okay. I'm going to take you to the governor's race in Ohio. Vivek Ramoswamy and Amy Acton. There's an ad that came out yesterday. And I want to play the ad. And it's coming out from Vivek's campaign with Amy Acton's mom claiming that Amy is a habitual liar. Here's the ad.

I'm Donna Arthur. And I'm Amy Acton's mother. I work to children. and Family Service Association, building one of the first two sexual abuse programs in America. I love my daughter, but when I saw her lying about her opponent, and it's not easy for a mother to say this, but Amy has a serious problem.

She is a liar. She lies about her past. She says she grew up living in a tent. None of that is true. She's lied her entire life. My daughter needs help, and she can't help you if she needs help herself. People can change, but first they have to tell the truth, and my daughter still isn't doing that. Don't vote for people who lie.

Don't let her become your governor. If you think she'll make your life better, you're fooling yourself. It will only get worse. All right, I've got a lot to say about this. First of all, finally a grandmother who, who looks like a grandmother. Have you ever noticed that grandmas now, you know, I'm 73 and you're like, you're what?

And maybe it's just I'm getting older, but, you know, I remember my grandmother looked more like that. Anyway, it seems damning. It seems really damning. The video quality is a little weak, and that's because the video was obtained from a voter who captured it

during an online opinion poll. Now, the vague says this video, this ad was leaked. The quality backs this up. All right. Now, let me play the video that Amy put together in response. That if Amy's brother claiming that Amy suffered abuse at the hands of their stepfather, and they both have been estranged for their mother ever since, here is the response.

Don't listen to mom. I received a lot of abuse, but Amy always got the worst of it. She continued to receive that abuse because she knew she had to protect me from that. And that if she hadn't done that, who knows where I would have ended up. And she's 11 and 12 years old.

And to think that that's somehow a talking point, Shaman Vivek, it's the contempt he has for Amy is the contempt he has for Ohio. He's not fit to lead. Okay. Oh, I hate politics. I hate it so much.

Hey, let's everybody parachute 20 years, 30 years later, into a family, into all of their mess, and you and I try to figure out what happened. I know my family. I can parachute into my family, and we still don't know exactly. and we had abuse in our family and we still have a hard time what's true, what's not, how did this happen, what should have been done, all of this.

So I'm not going to parachute into somebody else's family. Her mother claims that she was part of building one of the two first sexual abuse programs in America. I haven't had time since the ad came out to verify that. I don't know how to verify that, but we're going to look. But we also can't verify. whether or not Amy was abused by her stepfather.

We do know that he fled the state after being charged with rape of a 12-year-old girl, Amy. And that doesn't look good. So let me just try to make sense of this. Let's say Amy's telling the truth, which I have no doubt, no doubt in my, I believe the 12-year-old Amy because the charge was made, she and her brother was taken away from the guy and then he fled the state after being charged. So it sounds really bad. So I'm going to point for Amy.

Now, Mom said that she was part of, you know, a women and children abuse center. So it sounds like mom may have been part of this abuse, not as a receiving end, not as a giving end, a receiving end. How many times has this happened? How many times does this happen in families? And she got out and then started to work for children who are being abused. So I got to give a point to Amy's mom. I don't know what's true. That's all I know.

So I can't verify any more than that. So what do I do? Point each. Good. That means dismiss it. because this ad is not about the abuse. It's not. And that's what Amy tried to make it as.

You notice mom didn't say abuse in this other than, hey, I have some credibility. I started these things. And so I've seen problems and problems with children who were abused, et cetera, et cetera. And my daughter has a problem with lying. Okay. But she didn't say she was lying about the abuse. so take it off the table. And I really wish moms were off limits in politics, but they're not.

I mean, I had a, back when I was at Fox, I had somebody go and dig through my mother's death, fly out to Tacoma, Washington, go get my mother's death certificate, and then start calling my sisters and my friends and how did Glenn's mother die. My mother died when I was 15 years old. So I wish it was out, but it's not. It's not. And I don't like using family members to attack one another in election season or any season. We saw this tactic used against Trump. We saw it used against RFK Jr. We saw it work against Herschel Walker all the time over and over. And it's usually the left that doesn't.

And I don't like it. And I don't know if it works with voters. I hope it doesn't work with voters. voters. But to me, I hate to see the family breakdown. But I'm not a politician, so it's not in my control. And I remind you, Vivek says this was leaked. This was not his campaign ad. Now, without any of that, can we make the case that Amy Acton is not an honest woman? Yes, because that's what the mother is charging. Whether you want to believe her or not,

She's saying she has a truth-telling problem. And her record proves that over and over and over again. Let me give you an example. In September, campaign ad from Amy said, while attending the Canton Field Fair, an armed individual lunged at Dr. Acton, uh, actin,

injuring multiple people. Wow. Now, Amy doesn't allow any kind of cameras. around her, ever. Any campaign event. No cameras. Okay, that's weird. While attending the fair, an armed individual lunged at Dr. Acton, injuring multiple people. Dr. Atkin and Eric are grateful for the swift and decisive action of law enforcement and are praying for the recovery of those injured. This kind of violence has no place in Ohio. Dr. Ackin always stands up to the chaos, hate and vitriol that pits us against one another.

Wow. What happened? What happened? An armed individual lunged, injuring multiple people. Well, obviously the police were very interested in following this. And Amy's campaign was saying they want this prosecuted as a felony. And then a couple of days go by and they start ghosting the prosecutor. So now the prosecutor is calling Amy and the campaign going, okay, can you tell us what happened? And she was being ghosted. So here's what the prosecutor came out and said. This is the Ohio prosecutor on Amy's, quote, attack at the fair.

Listen. The information we've received is that the act in camp requested individual stop recording shortly before this incident occurred. So at this point, the only video we have is the defendants. and what's that showing certainly doesn't support filing felony charges. What does that video show? It shows him walking into the tent, recording, and moving forward, calling out her name and the State Patrol, then her security, I shouldn't say the State Patrol, somebody in her security comes forward, and then his phone is either dropped or tousled,

and that's all we have. There's never any close contact with the governor, never gets near her. I'm sorry, candidate for government. Okay, so nobody gets near her and no one's injured. Now, that's what she said. But let me show you the video of the event that actually later came out. All right? Here is the attack against Amy, and I'm going to describe this if you happen to be listening.

But if you're not, if you're watching, take this full screen. I want you to see exactly what happened. Watch. There's Amy under a tent. Okay, there's somebody. Now, stop. Stop. The camera shows somebody standing next to Amy, a black guy who lunges not towards Amy,

towards somebody else that looks like he's making a move, but he immediately stops. He like takes a step forward and then stops and steps back. The person who lunged it, Amy, was 15 feet away. He's immediately grabbed by people and he's pushed out of the tent. It shows no weapon.

It shows no one being hurt. There's nothing happening here. It certainly does not play it again as I'm reading what she said happened. While attending the Canton Field Fair, the Canfield Fair, an armed individual lunged at Dr. Atkin, injuring multiple people. Show me where the multiple people are that were, they're grateful for the swift and decisive action of law enforcement.

Law enforcement is not in the tent, and they're praying for the recovery of those injured. There's no one injured. No one. And she wanted this prosecuted as a felony. So Ohio, does she have a problem with telling the truth? Yeah. Just based on this alone. That's the point of the ad from Amy's mom.

Not about abuse, not about any of it. We don't need that ad to start questioning whether she's the right choice for Ohio. Right now, the campaign is accusing Vivek of not being right for Ohio because he stooped so low to bring her mother into this. which would be fine. I just told you, I don't like using moms. I don't like it. But you can't say that if, Amy, if you were the one who smeared Vivek's mom back in August. Don't believe me? Here's the press release. Billionaire scammer Ramoswamy used mother to manipulate clinical trials in pump and dump scheme to make millions. Today, new reporting to details how billionaire Vivek Ramoswamy hired his own mother who lacked research experience to manipulate

clinical trial data in alleged pump and dump pharmaceutical scheme. Vivek will apparently do anything, including shamelessly profiting off of Alzheimer patients and getting his own mother to manipulate clinical trial data, just to make a buck. Well, wait, wait. That seems like smearing mom. You have evidence of all of that? Live by the sword, die by the sword. It's a very dirty game.

This is going to be played out in Ohio expertly, because this is the way they always play it. Here is Vivek's problem on this. They're good at this. They're very good at this. And they're going to, they've made this all about abuse. And so every woman in Ohio now looks and say, wait, are you saying that she wasn't abused? No, that's not what Vivek is saying.

That's not what he's saying. At least that's not what I'm hearing. That's not what that video says. That video has nothing to do with abuse. She says the lie is she didn't grow up in a tent. She didn't grow up poor. She's lying about that. And she has lie after lie after lie.

In Ohio, you better wake up. She's a liar. She didn't say that she was lying. about her stepfather? She didn't say that. That's Amy's campaign injecting that. That's Amy's campaign now lying about what the ad is about. And because it's so visceral, people will buy it.

People will say, it's monstrous. How dare he say that's not what the ad says. This is all a distraction, you know, from what matters in the election. These elections are not about the candidate's mothers. You know what this is about your children? It's about your state, Ohio. It's about trust. Do you have somebody who has a pattern of lying?

You've got a problem. The stuff about Amy that has come out from her own colleagues, from the people that she has worked around, from her own, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, you've never had a patient, but you wear a white coat. Is that an academic thing? Only, what is that? What is that?

More in just a minute. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Okay, if you're listening to us anywhere in Texas, you might have checked your mailbox and seeing that you have the Texas trans and LGBTQ student resource guide that came in if you have kids in your house because it was all sent to the students of your family here in Texas. And we found out earlier this has nothing to do with Texas. In fact, the group that it is advertising said, we don't have anything to do. We didn't send this out. And it was a group out of Cheyenne, is it Wyoming or Sheridan, Wyoming. So we're going to be

doing some investigation. Who sent this out? But it's all about, you know, How you can have things altered, you know, a tailor will come in and take that in a few inches. Andy Noe is with us. He is a journalist. He's with the post-millennial. He's a senior editor there. And he has been working on activists and radicals forever. I mean, forever and ever and ever. He's one of the braver guys in the media. and he has stumbled across the Zizians, which is a new book that has come out. Z-I-Z-I-A-N-S, never heard of them. It is a trans-death cult.

Andy, how did you get from Antifa to the Zizians? Well, six years ago when I was in Portland, Oregon, reporting on the BLM-Antifa riots, and in Portland, that's where the riots lasted the longest. I was gathering every day through public records requests, the names of the dozens of people being arrested night after night. In the end, I had hundreds of individuals, and I had the mugshots, the booking photos, the names,

and then I cross-referenced it with open resource information. And one data point that I saw right away was that disproportionately the individuals identify as trans. Now, six years ago, not very many of us were talking about trans ideology or trans radicalism, and I didn't know anything about it. So it wasn't something I focused on, but it was something that was on the back of my mind. I was very badly beaten by violent anti-foe extremists in 2019 and 2021, nearly killed. It's why I've been in exile outside of the United States, have been in England for many years now.

And the individuals that I identified in my civil lawsuit as being part of those attacks, half of them ended up identifying as trans. And so it literally hit me in the face. And then in the last number of years, we've seen year after year, sometimes month after month, mass atrocities, killings committed by individuals who identify as trans.

So all of us are wondering what the hell is going on. Why is this happening? Why does there appear to be the surge? And then a year and a half ago, when I learned that the killing of a border patrol agent were allegedly committed by two individuals in Vermont who are trans identifying, I kept digging further. And I found out, oh, they're connected to this other person just arrested from murder in California who is also identifying as all gender. And this other person is also trans. And this person, too. And I realize more and more, it's not just that all these people who are linked to one another are trans identifying.

they are part of a trans cult. And it's a legitimate cult. I mean, do they have meetings? I mean, what is it? What's the structure? So the Zizians, and they're called that because the leader of the group, and that's his mugshot on the cover of my book, Jack Lassota, he adopted the name Zizz.

So his followers are called Zizzians. They make the Jim Jones call to Charles Bansling. and col looked tame in comparison. So these are rationalists and effective altruists who moved to the Bay Area decade ago to come up with ways that in their mind would maximize good. But because they are an atheistic movement divorced from, let's say, Christian values,

they don't view the human life as something that should be saved. And so, for example, in their mathematical calculations and modelings, They're viewing that billions and billions of animals are being killed every day for humans to eat or to consume. And by animals, they're referring to all the fish and prawns and insects in the world. Every time you step on an ant, you're committing a murder. And so at the forefront of the beliefs, they were really militant, radical vegans.

And because of that, they developed misanthropic and anti-human worldview. They were also AI Dumeers. They believed that when AI becomes a super intelligence, that they themselves could form the vanguard of the trans vanguard whose consciousness, through their own being so good, that their consciousness could be uploaded into the super AI and it could recreate a utopian simulation. And so their actions through the course of a decade, they drew in from other. belief systems as well so this is trans ideology so they believed for example that you they were born in the wrong body and also that trans women in particular and trans women are males who identifies as women they believe that they were gifted with special cognitive abilities so the zizians were specifically recruiting people who were vegan and trans and almost all of them

had extremely impressive CDs I mean math prodigies from when they were used some of them had done research at NASA, they worked at Google, quantum trading on Wall Street. So some of them were making a lot of money and were bankrolling this group. And as they became more and more extreme, they lived on communes. I went to their hideouts in the Bay Area and then they moved east. They became fugitives as they entered into criminal legal matters. and they view themselves increasingly as victims of an ongoing trans genocide. We hear this a lot from mainstream trans activists.

So they were accusing everybody around them, the courts, the judges, police, sheriff's deputies of being trans, and they were drawing out their criminal cases, which gave them time, by the way, to fake their deaths, do cover-ups, and move to different jurisdictions and go into hiding. By the end of it all, by the way, when finally Jack Ziz's Lussela, was arrested in rural Maryland last year with two other Zithian members, there is a body count of at least known eight people who have died in very violent ways. They performed human experimentations because they had certain hypotheses about the brains and how the brain would have different genders.

One side could be good, once I could be evil, and they had experiments that they thought could separate the two hemispheres of the brain. And so like the brutality, that they are alleged to have enacted on their victims includes using samurai swords and an attack hollow point round executions firings to the heads of people and other very very violent killings that I can't get into detail for this broadcast but it's in the book and so the book is true crime about the Zizians in the Zizians are a fringe and extreme example just as the Charles Manson family is a fringe and extreme example however what's different is that the zizians do fit into a larger pattern of growing trans violence where individuals who have committed or are alleged to committed atrocities mass killings and by that I'm referring to killing of women

and children things that like a type of brutality that you don't often see where trans ideology and gender identity is really kind of at the forefront in the manifestos that are left behind in their sense of persecution from the world. There are many, many trans activists since Donald Trump was re-elected into a second term who have been calling for one another to stockpile firearms. And I coined a term for this phenomenon of the trans and the Antifa. I call it Trantifa. We see it a lot. In fact, just a week and half ago, there were three individuals in Huntsville, Alabama, who have been federally charged for allegedly being part of a Trantifa cell that was making 3D printed functional firearms at home

and were stockpiling weapons for anti-government violence. So like week after week, we're just hearing out examples of transviolence and extremism. I do believe it's part of a pattern. This isn't fit into that. There are all these type of variables that are, for example, funding from big left-wing transhumanist philanthropists who are funding the trans-industrialists. medical institutions that are legitimizing it with lies about how the science is settled. The Democrat Party, media, the media is a big part of this.

There's a huge conspiracy to distort and cover up whenever there are these violent attacks committed by trans individuals. If you read the reporting in mainstream legacy media, you come out with a perception that trans had absolutely nothing to do with it, which is what you'll see in the reporting that's been in the New York Times and Seattle Times and other places about the Zizians. So, like, this book is really trying to correct the record on not just the Zizians, but also the history that we have of growing and surging transviolence. So, I mean, there's so much that is disturbing here, really, truly disturbing. But I want to go back to these guys are not morons.

They have very high IQs. Silicon Valley. And you add to that effective altruism. Can you explain why effective altruism is so dangerous? So effective altruism is a modern contemporary philosophical movement. On the surface, it sounds actually wonderful. the philosophers who came up with it have affiliations with Oxford University. So very brilliant people came up with it.

They just argue that, for example, you can use rationality, reason, and logic to maximize good. But in certain communities in Silicon Valley, like what ultimately became the Zizians, a lot of autistic people who were working in tech industry were drawn into it. They wanted to, quote-unquote, maximize good. But the movement in philosophy itself is atheistic. So there's no grounding for the value of the human life or any belief in a human soul, for example. So a lot of the things that they would focus on in terms of improving, doing good, was focusing on the welfare of shrimps and prawns and insects and animals in the wild,

because literally they are doing these complicated mathematical algorithms of, essentially out the day, how do you balance it in this way where, like, for example, there are more humans, there are more animals, insects, prawn, shrimps, dying than humans, and humans are causing that death. Therefore, you should put the money into the side where you're supporting the animals. One of the most well-known, effective altruists was a huge scammer, fraudster, convicted scammer fraudster, Sam Bankman Friede with FTX. billions of dollars were defrauded from people. And in his worldview, he was donating millions and millions to Democrats.

I mean, just think of it at the end of the day, if it's kind of like the ends justify the means, and in his mind he was doing good by donating to left-wing causes and charities, who cares if people are getting defrauded? So you can really see that the worldview of some EA people, effective outchus, is literally amoral. So, Andy, I've only got about a minute. Is this group now that the leader is behind bars?

Is this group over? Are there others that are spawning off of this? What's the status of this today? Why should we care about the Zizians? Well, six of them were, six of them are currently in custody in three different states facing both state and federal charges. However, what's really concerning is nobody's been convicted yet. Just recently, the Maryland State felony case was suspended and therefore one of the Zizians has been let go completely.

One of the other Zizians resolved his felony case in California and a judge allowed it to be pleaded down to misdemeanors and he's only, and he has no jail time despite being a fugitive for all these years after faking his death. So there's really a grim potential outcome just that as the case gets drawn out more, some one remaining witness in a murder attempt to murder trial is now in his 80s and has suffered a number of strokes. One of the other key witnesses was assassinated and killed. And the wider discussions about transviolence, you know, is just obfuscation and lies about it. I mean, I didn't even get into the role of like mental health comorbidities and all in cross-sex hormones, which I look at in this book, by the way, and I review the academic literature because actually there is, research on this and you're probably not surprised to hear that cross-ax hormone use does correlate with higher reported rates of aggression. Andy, thank you for all of your work. Please stay safe.

And thank you for your book. It's called the Zizzians. Z-I-Z-I-A-N-S. The Zizians. There is nobody that is doing this kind of stuff like Andy No is. You can pick it up wherever you read your books. The Zizzians by Andy No. Andy, God bless. safe. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program and don't forget, rate us on iTunes. Hello America. You know we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to keep this fight going, we need you. Right now, would you take a moment and rate and review the Glenn Beck podcast?

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