The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Bill Essayli | 6/8/26

Episode Date: June 8, 2026

Glenn explains why the market panicked before the weekend, despite a positive jobs report. First Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California Bill Essayli joins to discuss the potential election fraud that appears obvious to anybody paying attention in California. Glenn reacts to President Trump walking out of an interview with journalist Kristen Welker on NBC’s "Meet the Press" after Welker’s argumentative and combative interview style. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Okay, there's a lot to cover today. The meet the press meltdown with the president. It wasn't a meltdown. I had a meltdown reacting to it. I can't take these dishonest journalists another second. I mean, I'll outline. I don't need to get into it again because I'll blow a gasket. There's no evidence, really, no evidence.

We talked to the guy who is actually in charge of finding all. of the evidence. Bill Assaley, he is the first assistant U.S. attorney for the Central District of California. He oversees 500 attorneys, and they are currently, they've handed down some indictments, he thinks they're going to have some convictions, they are currently still looking for evidence. I mean, well, you listen to the interview, and you decide for yourself. And also the economy, we had a bad day on the stock market. That has nothing to do with the economy. That has everything to do with the stock market, a really bad day on Friday, and people said to me, what happened to the stock, we just lost over a trillion dollars of value. What happened? Oh, it is a monologue you

really need to hear because I expose the absolute game that you know is being played, but I'll show you where the bodies are buried all on today's podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. So during the break, you know, for the insiders, Jason Buttrill, who the ladies are now starting to call Guns McGee, uh, it was ranting about all of the stats on what the hell is happening in California. Uh, we'll have more on that and he's going to continue going through the numbers. Uh, if you're a member of the insider, just,

just join us now at glenbeck.com slash torch. Uh, you get a whole bunch of information we just can't get to because I've got to cover a whole buttload of stuff, uh, as well. and I want to turn now to the economy because people were freaking out on Friday. What is happening to the economy? What is happening? The stock market, worst

day ever. Okay, relax. Dow gave up 695 points on Friday. S&P dropped 2.6. NASDAQ where all the tech and AI money lives fell 4.2. Ugliest day in more than a year

by the closing bell, roughly a trillion dollars just went poof okay all right Bitcoin went right along with it okay worst week since February I think it was down like $62,000 for a coin a Bitcoin and and people were saying to me Glenn wait hang on how come this because didn't we have good numbers yes all of this happened on a good jobs report employers here's the good news employers added 172 thousand jobs in May that's more than double the 80,000 that the so-called experts forecast. Unemployment, I think, is still at 4.3% held even.

By every plain English measure, Americans are working, things are good. Okay, so why did the market panic on news that you and I would call encouraging more people are working? Sit with me for a second because I'm about to show you the whole game. For two years, Wall Street has been betting on one thing above. all else. Well, you might say it's AI, but it's not. It's deeper than that. It's the Federal Reserve, about to make money cheap again, and they love cheap money. You cut the interest rates, borrowing becomes easier, companies look more valuable on paper. The sky-high AI stocks just keep climbing because people will borrow more money in big business, and they'll buy it cheaply,

and then they'll buy more stocks and that just keeps. So the entire rally was leaning on the assumption that, you know, money is going to become cheap again. And that was kind of like leaning on, have you ever leaned on a door where you thought was closed or unlocked and you fell through? It was kind of like that on Friday, okay? Jobs numbers come out, they come hot, and the door swings wide open and everybody falls on the ground.

Because a strong economy with lots of jobs, rising prices, Fed can't cut interest rates. Means no cheap money. Means, uh-oh, AI better start producing. Inflation hit 3.8% in April. That is the highest in nearly three years.

It's all driven by the energy spike from the war in Iran, which we'll get to in a little while. So the rate cuts that Wall Street had penciled in, they're like, we're going to be able to borrow more money at a 0% interest. We're going to get so rich. now Goldman Sachs comes out and says, yeah, I don't think that's going to happen. So the traders were betting that, you know, they were going to get cheap money.

Now they get a rate hike and they all fall through the door. And the AI trade was already cracking before any of that, okay? Days earlier, Broadcom, one of the companies that, you know, selling picks and shovels for this whole AI gold rush, turn in strong numbers, but refused to raise its outlook for the year. That was the first whisper of, what's going on? If all of this spending isn't ramping up as fast as all the hype is promised,

what's going to happen? So to feel the size underneath of this, Google's parent company is out right now trying to raise just a measly $85 billion. We just need to build some additional AI machinery. It's just $85 billion. It's no big $85 billion. And that expects the stock market to go,

oh, you're going to pay that off perfectly. It's only $85 billion. No big deal. And we're fine with AI. Okay. So understand what actually happened here. It wasn't the good news that scared everybody Friday. It was the truth that the Fed is not riding in to rescue the overpriced stocks.

And maybe just maybe the AI miracle has a price tag attached to it that somebody should check before buying stock. You may not own a share of Navidia, but this affected you. That 401k or pension that you're counting on rides on the market, and days like Friday took a big bite out of it. Also, you want a mortgage on the house, the 10 years now above 4.5%, the rates are punishing. It's going to stay that way.

Your grocery bill, your gas, your rent, inflation is at 3.8 means they're not coming down soon. and a Fed that has to say tough on the prices, on the price inflation and is going to, that means it's going to be tough for a while. And small business, if you're a business owner, you need to, you need a loan to expand or just to make payroll, tightening screws coming your way. And that's the truth about it. That's how it affects you. Forget about everything else.

That's how this affects you. America's strength, however, has never come from cheap money or get rich quicks fevers. It never has. Pain always comes from that, always. Where America has always rallied, done well, and fixed herself is when people who make things, fix things, grow things, show up and are encouraged to do what they do best. A strong jobs report. It's genuinely good. It means your neighbor is working.

But what you have to understand, the sickness isn't jobs. The sickness is an economy that holds its breath while waiting on a handful of central bankers and a trillion-dollar wager on machines. They're counting on the game that you and I keep getting screwed by. So don't hang your hope on the Fed or on. Washington or the next shiny thing the market is chasing.

Hang it where it belongs. You get out from under your debt wherever and however you can. Build something that doesn't depend on a rate cut. Strengthen your family and the people around you. Real security was never, it was never something that was printed on a building on Constitution Avenue. It was built in your home with your hands and with your character. The market is going to recover. It's going to.

And it will really recover. And it will actually be something you can watch again when reality begins to shake hands again with price. It always returns. When that happens, you're going to be fine. But you and I have to pretend or stop pretending that Wall Street, you know, his, is the country. It's not. It pisses me off every time I hear something. Well, Wall Street is doing well. Yeah, well, Main Street's not. Okay. Wall Street's mood is not the measure of the country. You are. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

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just a little while. He left the Meet the Press interview and let me give you a little bit, just a clip of this. Listen. You think it's appropriate that they have an election and five days later they're nowhere close to picking one. Sting local officials acknowledge they are slow. They're urging. No, they're crooked. They're urging the votes to be counted. That's how they vote in California. They're crooked.

Just like you're crooked. Your press is crooked. And meet the press is crooked. To be fair, I'm not crooked. But let's continue. Well, you play right into their hands in. Let's continue. You're either crooked or you're stupid.

You play right into their hands with a strap. You know that these elections are rigged. Your network knows that they're rigged. You know that I won an election and a landslide and I got 94% bad press. But Mr. President, you never- why I get that because you have no credibility. You've never presented evidence that it was rigged.

Let's keep talking about. I want to talk about Todd. You have more evidence. Okay, stop. He goes on, and then he just gets up and walks out, as he should have. But she said, there's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. Okay. Let me talk to Bill O'Saley. Now, he is the first assistant U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California. Wow, there, there's, there are, there are, there are, there are several election fraud investigations going on in California. What did they have that would warrant a federal investigation?

We'll ask the man who actually knows, not a member of the press. Bill, welcome to the program. How are you, sir? I'm doing well, Glenn. How are you? I'm good. I am so glad you're out in California still. I know you're probably not, but I'm glad you are. Tell me what is, tell me what, tell me what, credible allegations exist that warrant a formal federal investigation? All right. Well, let's, you know, a couple things to keep in mind.

I am prohibited from discussing ongoing investigations, but we can talk about what is in the public domain and what we're doing in general. Number one, there is, election fraud is not a theory. It is a real thing. Election fraud happens every year. There are people charged and convicted of it every year. Just last month, we charged and obtained a guilty plea from a woman named Brenda Brown, who was captured on a James O'Keefe undercover video, paying homeless people to register to vote at her address.

That is a violation of federal law. You cannot pay someone to register to vote, and you cannot place false information on a voter registration form. And so we charged her and she's agreed to plead guilty. So that's just one little tidbits of the types of things we're looking into. We do have multiple ongoing investigations in similar vein regarding election fraud. Now, what the media always wants to jump to is, well, that's an isolated incident. And you have no evidence that it's widespread. And, you know, this is something I've been battling since I was in the legislature here.

I go, you have no idea how spread it is because you've never looked. And you have no desire to look and you don't care about preventing fraud. Let's just break down the system in California, and then we'll talk about the challenges we have and what we're going to do about it. California is a fraudster's paradise. Make no mistake about that, whether it's hospice fraud, health care fraud, or election fraud. The legislature who should have a obligation to protect the citizens of this state and this nation in their pocketbook does the opposite. They go out of their way to make it as easy as possible for people to commit fraud.

And how do they do that? This has been going on for decades. They have basically taken away and reduced all the fraud prevention measures that you would want in other states are legal in California. Starting with, you've got to start from the beginning, registering to vote. Almost anybody can register to vote in the state of California. You don't have to have a Social Security number and you don't need a driver's license number. You can go on the website right now and there is a box for each of those fields that says, I don't have one.

And you just check those boxes and they will register you to vote. Now, California says, well, you will have to show an ID the first time you vote. Go look at the post I put up yesterday that links to the Secretary of State's Webster. site for the state of California that tells you what they consider acceptable forms of ID to register to vote, including a gym membership, a prescription label, your employer ID card, and my favorite, a health insurance card, which California gives out health insurance to illegal aliens. So start there about how anyone can basically register to vote in the state of California. Then California has done universal vote by mail, which means

if you're on the voter rolls, you're going to get a ballot mailed to you whether you want it or not. And no questions asked. So they put millions of ballots out into the mail into the ether. The voter rolls are dirty. They have not verified that there's only eligible U.S. citizens on the voter rolls. And we know they also don't clean the voter rolls. So dead people, people who have moved convicted felons, are also receiving ballots because they're just not good at cleaning the vote. voter rolls. So put all that together and then we have no voter ID when you vote and you have

and you have legalized ballot harvesting, which is probably where a lot of this shenanigans is happening is at that point, the ballot harvesting. It used to be against the law to handle anybody's ballot other than your own or your immediate family member. That changed in 2018 in California. Anybody can handle anybody's ballots. There's no chain of custody. There's no requirements. of who can handle it. There's no paper trail of who touched the ballot and turned it in. And so these harvesters are out in the world for a month collecting ballots from God knows who, and God knows who circumstances. Who knows what the conversations are at the door? Who knows if the voters actually filling the ballot out? Nobody knows. And then they dump

all these ballots in the mail. And let me tell you, these are professionals, when these are organized union groups. They've been doing this for decades illegally, and now they're doing it legally because they've gotten the legislature to legalize their activities. That makes people's jobs like mine incredibly difficult. When we charge someone with fraud, we have to have evidence. And California has removed the paper trail. They've removed the chain of custody. They've removed any meaningful way for us to basically have a forensic audit of where a ballot came from. So, So we're doing the work. We're doing the best we can in the circumstances.

I expect people will be charged. But we need a wide-scale audits of the California voter rule, which is what Harmead and I have been trying to do for the last year. We have sued the state of California to comply with HAVA, which is a federal statute, which says only eligible U.S. citizens should be on the voter rolls. Unfortunately, Congress did not put a lot of teeth into that statute, so I don't have any criminal penalties assigned with it. All we have are civil. And so we are suing the state of California. We are in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals now. California has resisted in Stonewall.

They refuse to comply with the Attorney General's request to hand over their voter rolls to confirm that they're in compliance with federal law. So you've got to put all that together and that's what we're dealing with here in California. Why won't they show you the voter rolls? Why won't they just open them up? They claim that it, well, you want the real reason or the stated reason? Stated and then the real. Yeah, the stated reason is they say that it would violate California's privacy laws to hand over personal identifying information of voters to the federal government. Mind you, we issue most of that personal identifying information, such as a social security number. So they're hiding behind state privacy laws, which don't apply to the federal government.

government in this context. It's preempted by a federal statute here. So that's the stated reasons, and they have found lower-level judges to side with them, and that's the reason they said they're not handing it over, because they're concerned about the privacy interests of the voters, that information being handed over to the federal government. That's their stated reason. Why? Because they don't want anyone to look under the tent there. They don't want anyone to see how dirty their voter rolls are. They're filthy, dirty voter rolls. They have no desire to clean them up because the system that people in power probably benefit from occasional fraud that occurs in there. That's the only rational explanation I could give you is that they don't want to. They don't want to clean up the

fraud. They want to keep the system the way it is. So are we seeing, I don't know what I can ask you. I can't ask you. Are you seeing anything that could change the outcome of the vote in large enough numbers? Are you seeing anything like that? We're looking. We have set up a tip line. I've set up a dedicated email. It is CAElection fraud tips at usdoj.gov. We are looking for any sort of wide-scale conspiracy, if you will. Right now, I would say our investigations lean more into individual actors. So, you know, when you say tip the scales, you know, now I think in one of the local races here, I mean, you've got, you know, thousands of votes separating them. So theoretically, I'd have to charge thousands of people to prove that it changed the outcome

of the election unless we uncover some sort of wide-scale, fraud, which is incredibly difficult to do for the reasons I just went over. But we are looking. We are looking. And so if there's anyone with inside information, that's the way federal cases are made. They're made with witnesses, insiders, and evidence. And that's the other thing, Glenn. I know a lot of people see a lot of smoke, and I see it too. And there's a lot of theories and statistics. At the end of the day, in order for me to do my job, which is bring a case to a grand jury in court, I have to have evidence that I could prove beyond a reasonable doubt. It's an extremely high burden and standard, and we don't do that unless we believe we have

the evidence to back it up. So those are the constraints I'm under. I personally cannot change the election system in California. The voters have to do that, and I believe there's a ballot measure that would do just that in November. But, you know, I can't get into the politics of things. So yesterday, Welker from Meet the Press was with the president, and she said there's just no evidence of it.

of any of this. How would you respond to that? Evidence of what? I mean, she doesn't even look. There is, of course, evidence of fraud. Just do a Google search. Just do a Google search of election fraud, charges, California. You're going to see tons of cases of people who have been charged with committing fraud. What they always default to is, well, there's no evidence that's widespread. And that's a very interesting and clever statement because they've designed the system to not be able to detect the evidence through the system easily. So they want you. They want the burden on you to go out and prove every instance of fraud. And even if you charge 100 people, Glenn, they're going to say, well, that wouldn't have changed the outcome of the election. So instead of putting the burden on the system to reassure the people, the citizens of this country, that only legal citizens are voting, one person, one vote is the law of the land, and put the burden on the system to assure us that there is integrity and we can believe in it. They flipped it. And now it's on us to prove. every single allegation of fraud.

And that's just not the way it should be. Our system should be protected from fraud, and people have to have confidence. It doesn't matter who wins. I mean, I'm not concerned about the outcome of any election. I'm concerned about protecting citizens' rights to vote, however they want to cast that vote. But we have a situation now where people don't even believe those systems. They don't believe this election system. And so they're either not participating.

There's a lot of people who just don't participate anymore in California. and that's bad because that's self-suppression and there's a lot of places where their participation could maybe change the outcome. So you have people self-suppressing, and other people just don't believe the results and they lack confidence in their system. I don't think our republic can survive

if the public doesn't have confidence in the outcome of the election. That's going to be a risk of disaster. Yeah, the whole system is built on trust and that's why whether there's widespread fraud or not, that's why all of this stuff has to be opened up. You said you expect people to be charged. Can you say with what and you feel confident enough you have enough evidence?

I will just say it will be election fraud charges in the next. I hate to put timewise on things, but one or two months, I believe we need some of these results to be certified so we can, you know, prove some of the allegations. But we will be charging some people. I can't get in too much. And mostly, I mean, it's not just DOJ rules, but we also want to protect innocent people. If we get something wrong, we don't want someone to be tainted with the stain of an investigation

until we're able to prove that in court. So I can't get into too much, but just know that at this point right now, we're wide open for investigations. If anyone knows anything, direct, and then please, direct evidence. I know people have theories and they have ideas. and what we need right now are witnesses.

If you've witnessed anything, if someone voted in your name and you found out someone voted for you, we want to know about that. If you saw someone collecting ballots in a suspicious way or doing something odd with ballots, we want to know about that. Those are the kind of things

we need direct evidence up right now so we can launch into deeper investigations. Bill, thank you very much. Thanks for all the work you're doing in California. I really appreciate it. First Assistant U.S. turning for the Central District of California. Last week, we talked about several politicians. Platner is one of them that you can't believe is being elected.

There is the other guy who is in, what is it, the 11th district in New Jersey that is an Islamist and a guy who appears to be connected to terror in the past. And either al-Qaeda or ISIS, I think it was al-Qaeda. And then, Ricky, do we have that audio I sent you of this guy who's running for office in Texas? And this guy is just emblematic of the kind of people that we see more and more of today. Listen to this. You believe a guy who hates American veterans who gave him the freedom to say what you're saying right now. My parents are the only people that made sacrifice.

No vet has been any sacrament question. I want to make that clear. I do not support the U.S. military. No, I do not support the United States. I look down on both entities. I want to make that clear. You don't... How do you feel about veterans?

I don't support veterans. What? The only, the only vets I support are the one that takes care of cats. So this guy's running for office in Texas. He's not going to win. He's not going to win. He's run before.

He's a crazy man, et cetera, et cetera. But you know what? That's the way it used to be. Oh, he's a crazy guy. He runs all the time and nobody's paying attention to him, and he's not going to win. But now you hear people say crazy things, like that and they end up getting on the ballot and

and winning or at least coming close if they don't win. I mean, we have some people that are that are running right now that are crazy. Crazy. Platner is one of them. The guy is crazy. Dangerous. A Nazi. Abusive, allegedly. I mean, it just doesn't stop with this guy.

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I cannot take politics. I can't take it. I just can't. take it anymore. Now apparently Donald Trump hates the Jews and wants the Jews to die. I mean, it's a fun house and it isn't any fun anymore. Plus, the crap that came out of meet the press, I mean, Christian Welker opens her mouth and crap just spews out. I'm surprised he wasn't left looking like he came in wearing a brown suit after sitting across from her. Um, listen, I am going to because of the crap that came out of her mouth.

I'm going to explain exactly what happened. Exactly what happened with Meet the Press. And some stuff you don't know that happened behind the scenes. Okay, so Christian Welker, I don't know if you saw this. Play a little clip of Meet the Press from yesterday. Play the short version, please. You don't think it's appropriate that they have an election. And five days later, they're nowhere close to picking anyone.

Staying local officials acknowledge they are slow. They're urging. No, they're crooked. They're urging the vote. to be counted. That's how they vote in California. They're crooked. Just like you're crooked. Your press is crooked.

And meet the press is crooked. To be fair, I'm not crooked. But let's continue. Well, you play right into their hands in. Let's continue. You're either crooked or you're stupid. You play right into their hands with this rap. You know that these elections are rigged.

Your network knows that they're rigged. You know that I won an election and a landslide and I got 94% bad press. But Mr. President, he never presented because you have no credibility. But you've never presented evidence that it was rigged. Let's keep talking about, I want to talk about Todd. You have more evidence.

There's more evidence than ever presented. Let's talk about... Your elections in this country, we're like a third world country. Your elections are crooked, and you're crooked, and least the press is crooked. And so is ABC and CBS and CNN. But Mr. President... Your one-sided crooked networks. So, right, let's call it quick, because I've had enough.

Thank you, darling. Have a good time. Mr. President, let's... Please, I traveled all the way to Wisconsin. I've sat down the way I know I travel a rain with you for an hour on it off in the rain and I've given you enough time you ought to straighten out your press because you know what

A country can never be grace with a dishonest We traveled all the way to Wisconsin This way Oh we went to space to get this interview Do you know how hard it is to get five minutes With the President for the love of Pete? Oh man We traveled all this way

and you only gave us 45 minutes. Gee. Rain was hammering down on this roof. So hard you could barely hear any of the questions. They talked Iran, they talked to the economy, then they got to the elections. And every single time when they were talking about the proposed

anti-weaponization fund, when that came up, Trump was really clear. He's like, I'm for it. I think it's fair, but it's up to Congress. I'm for it. I think it's fair, but it's up to Congress. Then she brings up the January 6 cases. He didn't demand any blanket pardons.

He was very, very clear. He called for a panel to review them one by one, case by case. Look at the facts. That's not a bomb thrower. That's not somebody that wants to give money to anybody who's ever broke the law. A lot like BLM. That's a man asking for basic due process in real justice. She would not even listen to him.

She didn't even acknowledge that anything he was saying was at least kind of reasonable. It was just challenge fact check, challenge fact check, challenge fact check, especially pounding him on the elections. He had enough. He unclipped his microphone, called the crooked press, walked out. And even then he was polite about it. I mean, holy cow. It is, it is, it's absolutely crazy. You know what bothers me? This isn't about Trump. I've just had enough with these holier-than-thou megalomaniacs who call themselves journalist. There is no honest curiosity left in them at all on any subject. None. None. You can talk to them about anything and they've already made up their mind.

They are just capturing the story that confirms what they believe. They're not, there's no moment there where you, you stop and go, well, I don't know. Is he making sense here? Maybe he is. no adjustment ever with these people. When Donald Trump won in 2016, that was the perfect moment for them to look in the mirror and ask a hard question like, why are we so out of touch with the American people? They didn't. They doubled down. It just reinforced their tightly held belief that the American people are just stupid. And they, the enlightened press, just no better than everybody else, including half of the politicians in Washington. If you agree with the people, press, well then you're smart. If not, you should be destroyed. I mean, look at what happened in that interview. Trump brought up suicides of those who were persecuted. Yeah, I said persecuted, not

prosecuted. Most of them were persecuted. Like, it was like 21 suicides. No hesitation, no recognition, no human moment. She just shot back, why did so many people plead guilty if they were all innocent? Is this your first day on the job, you nincom poop? Let's, here's an idea. Let's think it through for two seconds. Let's see, I'm a normal person who's never gotten in trouble with the law before, and now I'm facing an all-powerful federal government who wants to step on my neck. They took me out of my house in the middle of the night.

Then they held me in solitary confinement. They wouldn't let me talk to a lawyer. The process seems like the punitive. itself. And then the judge seems to have already decided on collective guilt. I don't know. Why would you plead guilty when your lawyer comes to you and say, they've got a deal for you? Take two years and plead guilty or roll the dice and take 25 years to life. Gee, I don't know which one would I choose. Let me ask you this. Kristen? You ever talk to a lawyer? Have you talked to a lawyer? Have you talked to a?

lawyer about any case. What do they always say? Settle it. Settle it. Settle it. It's not worth it. Just settle it. Just settle it. No, but I'm not guilty of that. Settle it. Yeah, but she said that I said this. I didn't say that. Settle it. Every single corporate lawyer will tell you, and I know you've been involved in those, every single corporate lawyer will tell you, just settle it, make it go away. It's not worth it.

You think somebody that's getting 25 years to life, and they offer a two-year prison sentence, you don't think the attorney is saying to them, settle it. Trust me, I don't think with these people you're going to win. But you don't think that through because you're too busy chasing the next story that fits your narrative.

The poor downtrodden illegal alien that's been scabbing people on trains because of his childhood. Well, that person that's been raping children or Islamist running for office or Nazis running for the Senate, anything, anything, to avoid the real story of government overreach and destroyed lives. You back anybody. You think you own the truth.

You can't handle the truth. And if the press thinks that they believe something, if you tell them something else, it didn't happen that way. It just didn't happen. If they haven't heard about it, it didn't happen. If it's not within their beliefs, it's just wrong. And they'll sit there demanding evidence on elections while waving away the bloated voter rolls, the ballots arriving days late, the chain of custody black holes,

the absolute mess that we're watching unfold in California, and they'll defend no voter ID all day long and tell us that that's Jim Crow, which is insulting to every black person in America. and I think probably even a little insulting to Jim himself. He's probably on your side. You lecture us about democracy. You're just burning through the fuel that democracy actually needs, and that's trust.

You've burned all that out. Now, let me just say this. Look at what President Trump did. He invited you. You didn't call him for that interview. He called you, not Fox, not. not news, Max, not me, NBC, knowing how hostile you are. Tell me the other president does that.

He invites you, and then he sits for an hour in a thunderstorm in that barn, rain pounding down, but you can't seem to make that. You couldn't isolate those microphones. You can't hear each other, so can we wait a little while? He waits an hour because you can't record in the rain. and then you start in on this hostile question and when the badgering doesn't stop he stands up and says

country can never be great with a dishonest press I'm done here and then he leaves no tantrum polite even on the way out and then what you don't know is on Saturday he reached out to her and apologized he said the rain and the delays it just put me in a cranky mood

it's not your fault and he agreed for a follow-up interview Did you know that? Why didn't she say that? By the way, the president was testing. We were having this conversation. But he's agreed to come back for a follow-up. And they call him thin-skinned, dangerous, unhinged.

And yet he's the one who has the balls to keep walking. Honestly, I'm questioning it at some point. I mean, you get what you, I mean, this is what you're walking into every time. A network that's treated him in millions of Americans. who voted for him as an enemy for a decade at least. When was the last time you saw an interview with him go the other way on any of those networks? When did you see this? When did you see Barack Obama or Joe Biden or any of them sit down with a conservative outlet for a full hour of tough questions?

I'm not guessing because I know the answer. I've asked the White House for an interview every single White House. You know, the only ones to say yes, George W. Bush one time and Donald Trump. And George W. Bush didn't like me. He had no use for my opinions whatsoever. Okay, that's not spin. That's fact. You know, there was a time when meet the press actually meant something. Tim Russert, anybody remember him? He was a man who wanted a fair fight. Tough on everybody. You knew he was fair because you would hate him with your guy and love him with their guy. What she's doing now, that's a performance.

That's a show. That's a show. And I face these people in Trump's position, and they don't listen, they preach, they tell you like it is. They're not asking questions. There's nothing that this man could do or say that would have given her pause.

To change her mind, change her perspective. Perhaps see how he arrived at conclusions, honestly, that were different than hers, and went, okay, I never saw it that way, Mr. President. I got to tell you, you deserve a press that chases truth instead of storyline, and you ain't getting it there. One that can hear a reasonable answer that the journalists might disagree with

on protecting against weaponized government on a case-by-case basis for justice for January 6th, on cleaning up our election so trust could be restored and actually admit, you know what, that is reasonable. I don't necessarily agree with, but it is reasonable. No, instead, you sell it as a meltdown. It wasn't a meltdown.

It was a man who endured the literal rain and figurative storm until he was just finished being lectured by an institution that lost any credibility long ago. I applaud him. I applaud you for walking into the lion's den. I wouldn't have done it. But for still sitting down with people

who despise him, and yet he'll sit there politely and talk to them for as long as he can handle it. You know, the part that matters most is not loyalty. It's the demand underneath it all. Every institution with power over your life, the press, the elections, the government, it has to operate in the full light of day, where you can see it and judge it for yourself. I'm not loyal to any of this stuff.

I want to see it in the full light of day. If you're going to teach your kids how to find the truth, that interview is not going to help you. Because she was not looking for the truth. She was looking to do a show. Na-na-a-na-