The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guest: Bill O'Reilly & Larry Rhodes | 4/3/20

Episode Date: April 3, 2020

Today’s COVID-19 update: Worldwide cases have surpassed one million, the White House considers recommending that we all wear face masks, and the hospital ships are sitting empty. It’s Mad Max, sta...rring Bill O’Reilly! Bill gives the latest updates from New York and fact-checks the media: Trump took action FIRST against the coronavirus! Retired Sheriff Larry Rhodes of “Tiger King” fame joins to discuss how even he couldn’t believe the craziness he saw with Joe Exotic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the podcast. We are going to talk a little bit today about the World Health Organization, which is seemingly an arm of the Chinese government at this point. Real problems going on there. And when you don't have an authority when it comes to health that you can trust, we get into that. We get into a little bit about the pathetic handling of media matters and the media in general as they try to take conservatives out of context. and bash them as they try to cover the coronavirus situation. Bill O'Reilly joins us. He has a lot about not only coronavirus, but what to do with yourself in the middle of this quarantine, which is pretty interesting. Charlie Kirk also joins us. He's got a piece on the stimulus package and kind of the wrong road we're going down.
Starting point is 00:00:51 And we have the former sheriff that is in the show Tiger King. He's a listener to the program. And I happened to call in and wanted to give us a little update on how crazy it was being the sheriff during that whole situation. Make sure you, first of all, subscribe to blazTV.com. If you use the promo code, Glenn, you'll get 30 bucks off your subscription. It's the biggest discount they've ever done. And don't forget Glenn's book, Arguing with Socialists, comes out on Tuesday. It's a great read, and it's filled with little blurbs and funny stuff that you can kind of pick up wherever you want.
Starting point is 00:01:29 and get a great piece of information to be sharing with your friends, I guess over Zoom, because we don't actually see people anymore. So check that out. You can get a pre-order right now at Amazon.com or glenbeck.com, and here's the podcast. You're listening to. All right, let's get through these as quickly as we can. Total confirmed cases now worldwide. We are now over a million cases up from 950,000 yesterday.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Total confirmed deaths worldwide, 54,000. Up from 48,000 yesterday. 12% of U.S. confirmed cases now require hospitalization that is roughly on par with Italy at 12% requiring hospitalization. And lower than Spain, where it is 18% of the patients require hospitalization. We now have 245,380 confirmed cases and 6,095 people have died. That is up. about 40,000 from yesterday and up a thousand deaths from yesterday. The White House now is going to recommend all Americans wear face masks in public.
Starting point is 00:02:54 President Trump said yesterday that they are considering a recommendation. He says the recommendation is coming out. I don't think it's going to be mandatory. If people want to wear the masks, they can. However, we shouldn't be using masks that, you know, our surgeons and our nurses and everybody else need at the hospital. later somebody from the White House said that they're going to narrowly target areas with highly community transmission. And that's the matter that remains under discussion whether they're going to do this for the whole country or not. New memo from the CDC says in light of new data,
Starting point is 00:03:29 CDC recommends the community use cloth masks as additional public health measure that you can use to prevent the spread of the virus to those around. This news comes as Laredo, Texas joins more than a dozen. American cities or counties that have mandated the use of face masks for all people in public spaces, such as grocery stores or shopping centers, violators without a face mask, at least in Laredo, face up to a thousand dollar fine. Similar provisions are now being considered in the entire state of California, according to Gavin Newsom's office. Antibody tests are getting accelerated availability, unlike vaccine testing and production, which could take months, if not years, SARS-COVID-19 antibody tests could be available in the U.S. in just a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Now, this could be the key to opening America back up and getting us out of our shelter in place. If you already have an immunity to this virus, you could go back to work. Most known coronavirus immunities, however, inhumans are not permanent. Researchers say that, you know, the flu, for example, it grants only a seasonal immunity and can be caught just a few months later. So we have to watch this carefully. The hospital ships are sitting empty. The much-touted Navy hospital ships in New York and Los Angeles sit 95% empty as of last night.
Starting point is 00:04:59 In New York, the comfort, a thousand beds largely unused. It's 1,200 member crew, almost idle. We're waiting for the patients, one of the nurses said. Only 20 patients have been transferred to the ship. New York hospitals struggling to find space for thousands of infected with the coronavirus, but they're not sending any patients over to the USS comfort. The Navy hospital ship, the Mercy in Los Angeles, docked, only has 15 patients there. Michael Dowling, the head of Northwell Health, New York's largest hospital system,
Starting point is 00:05:35 said, if I'm being blunt about it, this is a joke. Everyone can say, thank you for putting up these wonderful places and opening these cavernous halls, but we're in a crisis here. We're in a battlefield. The issue is red tape. On top of the strict rules preventing people infected with the virus from coming on board, the Navy is also refusing to treat a host of other conditions. Guidelines disseminated to hospitals include a list of 49 medical conditions that would exclude a patient from admittance to the ship, and ambulances cannot take people directly to the comfort. They first have to delinquents. deliver patients to a city hospital for a lengthy evaluation, including a test for the virus, and then pick them up again for transport to the ship. 911 call centers are already massively swamped in New York. Ambulances are not available to take non-infected persons to each ship. Meanwhile, across New York, hospitals are overrun. Patients have died in hallways before they can even be hooked up to one of the available ventilators in New York.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Doctors and nurses who have had to use the same protective gear again and again and again are now getting sick themselves. So many people are dying. The city is running low on body bags, said the head of the hospital. The coroner's office told us told our administrator to start double wrapping bodies in sheets for the time being. Let me give you a hopeful sign. University of Pittsburgh researchers have found COVID-19 a vaccine, they say. Scientists at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine believe they found a potential vaccine for the coronavirus. Researchers announced their findings yesterday believe the vaccine could be rolled out quickly enough to significantly impact the spread of disease.
Starting point is 00:07:18 The vaccine would be delivered on a small fingertip size patch. When tested on mice, the vaccine produced enough antibodies believed to successfully counteract the virus. Scientists say they were available, they are able to act fast because they have. had already done research on similar coronavirus SARS and MERS. Trump administration ordered the FBI to fast track the next phase of animal trials for the experimental vaccine. Officials warned that even if it's success, human trials and ultimate production could still be as far away as 12 to 18 months.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It's early, but it's a very positive result. There's something going around the internet now that I want to dispel quickly, and that is up in Vermont and Maryland, people are saying now that they are making seeds to grow food illegal in stores. Governor Phil Scott issued an executive order mandating that retailers, including Walmart, Target, Costco, Ace Hardware, Home Depot, cease in-person sales of non-essential items. This makes Vermont, the second state in the U.S., to make gardening supplies non-essential. Well, that's the problem. The list of items deemed as non-essential includes electronics. What?
Starting point is 00:08:37 Books? Are you kidding me? Furniture, sporting equipment, toys, and gardening supplies are lawn care. Such items could still be ordered by way of various company websites, according to the signs posted inside. Walmart stores posted to Twitter by Walmart shoppers, and it shows that there's a ban that you can't buy seeds. Our studios and our staff just reached out to the, governor's office. We have not heard anything officially, but we have gotten a couple of responses
Starting point is 00:09:05 where they have just opened this back up, Walmart, as we called them and we said, hey, what's going on? They said it was a misinterpretation of the law, and they are now calling those Walmarts to say, remove the signs from the seeds. You're able to buy those seeds. Again, it is really important, really, really important that you don't panic when you see things. Many times it will be a misunderstanding like this was. Don't panic and don't feed in to any of those problems. That's your COVID-19 update. We're going to take a quick break stations and then we're going to come back.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And we have the sheriff on with us from Oklahoma City, who was the sheriff that you saw Larry Rhodes in Joe the Tiger King, that dokey series. We do that in one minute. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. So Larry Rhodes is the former Garvin County, Oklahoma Sheriff. He was the sheriff for over eight years, and many of those years. He dealt with the now famous Joe Exotic, who we all now know from the Tiger King. He rode into the show just, what, yesterday of the day before, to set the record straight.
Starting point is 00:10:35 He said, hello, Glenn Beck. I listen regularly on KTOK AM in Oklahoma City. and I have to reach out to you about Tuesday morning's comment that the tigers were the only ones that made any sense on Netflix, Tiger King. Give me some credit. I did my best to tell producers of the show what a constant problem the animal park was to our rural sheriff's office. I'm the county sheriff shown in Joe Exotic docuseries. Not much made sense with any part of that zoo. I'm now retired.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Keep up the good work, stay safe. I wanted to get him on and personally tell you, Larry, I did not mean that you did. make sense you were it i felt like you were the one that was sitting there you were saying all the things that i was saying the whole time like this is nuts this is nuts it it was nuts uh glen uh that was uh that was eight years of my career that uh i won't get back yeah no i i bet not so what point where did you come into this uh this saga what where in the where in the show's life were you there when Joe seemed to be kind of sane? I mean, not really sane, but kind of sane at the beginning? Or was he always not? Actually, I was, Glenn. I took office in late 2010, and that's
Starting point is 00:11:57 where I first met, you know, met Joe. We would have to annually execute a contract, you know, to deal with a protocol if some of these large cats got out. So Joe and I early on communicated regularly, and things were pretty good at that point. But as the zoo grew and as Joe got more exotic, so to say, it really got out of hand. I might add, you know, toward the end of my career there as Garvin County Sheriff, of, you know, he was accounting for most all of our calls for service in that immediate area of the county. Shut up. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's, it was a week. I had deputies at that park almost on a weekly basis.
Starting point is 00:12:55 If it wasn't an external call for service away from the park, causing us to respond and to investigate at the park, it was. something internally. And, you know, we had some pretty major cases as well at the park. Like, like, what do we not know? What did they not show us? Well, well, the producers didn't show you quite a bit. You know, if you can imagine those producers worked on that documentary, I think, four to five years. There are so many stories and back stories that, you know, those watching the Netflix series, they didn't see. I mean, just, and I'm not talking routine stuff. You know, for instance, you saw in one episode where that EF4 tornado, it showed Joe talking about that tornado,
Starting point is 00:13:51 and it was headed directly toward the park. And I can remember I was responding to the area that was hardest hit by that tornado, And I was on the radio telling deputies get to the park. It is on a straight path toward the animal park. And I was given directions, you know, don't let any one of those big cats out. You know, we'll have a larger problem than, you know, what we were dealing with. But, you know, at the last minute that I could turn to the more to the east, but just little stories like that. but we you know we we had yeah i'm just wondering if there was anyone sane i mean it seems like
Starting point is 00:14:53 every single person there's that one guy who's from oklahoma that kind of looks like an orangutan a guy runs an exotic he ran the exotic bird thing or whatever he was the the uh he was the guy who was the the tried to he he did the entrapment or not the entrapment but he did the the spying there for the FBI at the end and, and, uh, what's his point of my, uh, email to you was at least show somebody sane and, and even the producers said, you know, we've got to have some, uh, sanity in this, uh, docu series. So, uh, sheriff can we talk to you? I said, well, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Right. But I mean, outside, I mean, in the big cat world, they all seem nuts. They all seem nuts. And I never knew that until I became sheriff. I, and some of it was that Joe would, you know, he would hire and pay just, you know, just pennies for people to work there. And many people volunteered because that, that was their passion. So as you can imagine, the people that were attracted to work or hang around the zoo, you know, they, they were people that, you know, thought, had extreme thoughts. and maybe didn't have much else going for them,
Starting point is 00:16:18 and therefore they were at the zoo working or, you know, feeling like that was their place in the big cat world. You know, I can tell you. Go ahead. What also lent to this, Glenn, was I can remember times Joe would come to my jail and try to bond people out because he needed workers at the zoo. you know, he'd be back there looking at the jail list and, hey, I could use this person or this, you know, transitory person. And he'd bring them out to the zoo and put him to work.
Starting point is 00:16:54 So that's what you got, you know. So it seemed like there was a plethora of drugs there. Did you, were you having to fight a drug ring there? or did you guys know that that was as prevalent or is it or was it it was prevalent we knew it's prevalent uh you know on the park and and and with some of the um workers that were around the park uh just as portrayed in in the in that docu series tiger king there were drugs around that park again it uh just what i spoke to uh some of the people that uh were attracted that park, you know, that was the lifestyle they led.
Starting point is 00:17:42 That was the environment they lived in. And I wouldn't characterize it as a drug ring. I mean, it wasn't, Glenn, it wasn't any... They weren't selling it, yeah. It wasn't any bigger of a problem. The drugs weren't in any other part in rural America right now with Matthews and addiction problems we're having. So it was...
Starting point is 00:18:05 Do you think that... Joe, in his own way, was a cult leader? I wouldn't characterize him as a cult leader. He certainly had a lot of influence over people, workers, people who came to the park and would want to donate and maybe sponsor the animals that he kept at the zoo. He had a lot of influence over people in that sense. But as far as the cult, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:37 most everyone at that part didn't stay there very long. There were a few exceptions, and those are the ones that were shown on the show that stayed there year after year. But, you know, we would get a call for service, Glenn. I'm just telling stories here. We'd go out there, and we'd conduct an investigation. We would try to go back and conduct a follow-up investigation.
Starting point is 00:19:01 That person would be gone. They would be off to another state, never to be seen. in the Garvin County again. It was, so, you know, Colt-like, I didn't see that closed a community. It was a public park. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah. Larry, thank you so much for calling in, and I'm glad I didn't have to live your life. But what an amazing story it is. Thank you very much. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and don't forget, rate us on iTunes. It's shocking that your home can be stolen this easily,
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Starting point is 00:20:46 You're feeling strong? Yeah, I'm feeling strong. Feeling good. Yeah, feeling good. Yeah, good night's sleep with the doppy pillow. You're all right. Yeah. Yeah, with the dopy pillow, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:59 You know, I don't know why my, I don't know why some of my favorite people, and I know you hated him, but are like Don Imus and Bill O'Reilly. Both just can tankerous, just, just everybody else. They don't get you. I'm in I'm in his category. I'm so much better looking than he is. I mean, come on. Well, especially now.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I don't know if you've seen him. He's gone downhill. But anyway, Bill, tell me what your thoughts are on, first of all, how New York is handling this. What's it like to be in New York? What's really going on there? Well, on Long Island, anything to report. People are behaving. They're staying inside.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Not a lot of traffic. The food places. open the services actually more food than there would ordinarily be because people are as the city is concerned i've been in there in about a month i do talk to friends in there every day there is a little menace on the street as the crazy people not reporting because the local media is not out on the street uh so you got to be careful and they're not and and you're not saying that that's necessarily just criminals but there are also there's a really mental illness people right So go to the precinct houses and they're in the cars and they're supervising what happens
Starting point is 00:23:02 is MS people. That is the untold story. They're working around the clock. Break double shifts geared up, but it's not how lethal. Three percent are going to die of people who acquire me. Well, you can't touch. If that's true, I would have been dead five weeks ago. Aology around a lot of misinformation.
Starting point is 00:23:55 It's a mess. Texas is where you guys are. All right. So, Bill, there is a real debate going on right now. I don't think we can argue that this is dangerous. The numbers, if they just continue at the pace that they're at today, it will become the most deadly virus of the last hundred years. I mean, it is really, it looks like it's going to be bad.
Starting point is 00:24:26 If they just stay on pace and don't exponentially grow, by the end of next month, it will be bad. And I think we've done a lot to contain it. But the real debate here is, is the cure worse than the virus? You know, tomorrow, I've heard this people ill. You're not going to be able to cherry pick what you do. You're not. Now, if you live in that a code is or why is that have not been impacted,
Starting point is 00:25:07 you should go about your daily life. And that's the local authorities. You should follow their lead. It's not a one-size-fits-all. But these commentators who are saying, well, you know, let the old people stay inside. The rest of this will go out. You're insane. That's what it did in China.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Now, I don't believe China at all, but there is independent reporting in China, where the stats down and then the local people will decide who can do what. But to say, well, it's not worth it. We're losing too many jobs. I think that's fallacious. I really think that's dangerous reporting, and you're hearing it. So, Bill, I think that we need to keep the country closed, but there is a point to where you don't just fire these engines back up.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I don't know where that is. I don't know if you know Stephen Moore, the economist, but he's a good, yeah, he's a good friend. He's always very optimistic. He got off the phone. He was supposed to be on with me, you know, at this time, couple of days ago and he got called into a meeting at the White House and said, I'll call you right back, I'll call you next hour if I can get out of the meeting. And so he had no time to process and he was right on the air. And I've never heard him like this. He's like, this is just
Starting point is 00:26:40 catastrophic what is coming. How do we balance that? Well, first of all, speculation doesn't help anybody. And I was critical of Fauci, the doctor, because he's going, well, my comeback, in the fall. Hey, that doesn't do us any good, Doc, okay? No. You know, it doesn't. All right, so you don't need to say that. And number two, well, we do. Hang on, hang on, hang in, hang, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Speculation isn't good, but being able to get people prepared for possibilities. I'm afraid. If you're right, I'm afraid people are going to think. Right, but I think people on when it's coming back, I think people saying, oh, well, Okay, we're past it. If they're not aware that it might come back in fall, it will be, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:34 people have to understand that the second wave of Spanish flu, it did come back. And it was worse than the first. It doesn't mean it's going to happen this time, but you do have to be aware of it could come back. I disagree vehemently, unless you have data to back it up. I'm sure you're aware at the University,
Starting point is 00:27:55 of Pittsburgh, they're now going into human trials on a medicine that will abruptly stop the pandemic. Yes. So we're going to live in a totally different country in September than we're living in April. The whole
Starting point is 00:28:12 country is going to be different in September. And none of us know how that's going to shake. So I don't need Fauci telling me this might happen. It could, it woulda. You just put out there, this is what we're doing, this is what the data says, and then in July or August, if you see a trend up, then you say everybody,
Starting point is 00:28:36 but to scare people, and people are, if I died, we're probably all better off. People are. I mean, it's debatable. I mean, you make a good point. You do make a good point with a lot of facts and data points to back that up. But I don't want to speculate. I don't want to speculate. Look, there are two prongs to this.
Starting point is 00:29:07 reportage and and i can't tell you how the u.s. press the journalism industry in america is letting down every single america you would think they would rise to the occasion bias and a really vivid example it's one prong of the disease reportage the other is people don't know what's true they don't know whether to wear a mask they don't know whether to uh dress So they don't know whether to... I got my daughter-bater after to... Bill, they don't know whether to wear a mask. Yes, they should wear a mask.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Oh, it's fine, but they don't know. Some people say, yes, why they don't know? People say, no, you don't have to. Do you know why they don't know? They don't know because the combination of those in the government and mainly in the media that just don't trust the American people with information, said, we're going to have a shortage of masks. Tell people that they don't need those masks.
Starting point is 00:30:38 They need them at the hospital. They won't work for them. Of course they'll work for them if they're working for the doctors. Trust the American people and give them the information. They'll do the right thing. They'll do the right thing. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you can get one, okay?
Starting point is 00:30:53 But there isn't any definitive if you wear the mask, you're not going to get it. All right? So don't think if you're wearing a mask, you're not going to get it. Correct, yes. All right. The mask is basically for people who think they're sick. So it's harder to spread if you cough because you're in front of your mouth. But this is ill.
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