The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guest: Christopher Rufo | 12/2/20

Episode Date: December 2, 2020

A truck driver delivering ballots alleged possible fraud after a supervisor told him to change how he delivered a batch of mail, and another truck driver calls in to confirm how unusual the instructions were. Who in their right mind would want an $80,000 purse? City Journal contributing editor Christopher Rufo talks Biden’s promise to bring back critical race theory trainings. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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today from the podcast that you would, you'd have to say was the best play that you saw. The best play? Oh,

well, I thought it was early on as the, that incredible palmist from Joe Biden. I'd have to tell you that I,

there we had a psychic on. You know, we told you about the Joe Biden dog psychic. And we found them and we realized what this woman actually does.

And she had a stunning prediction for early on in the Biden administration should he actually become president of the United States. We talk about James O'Keefe. We talked about net neutrality a bit in the FCC and where freedom is going. We also had Vernon Jones, remember he's the guy who is the Democrat that. that has stood up against his own party in Georgia. Wow. He had a lot to say to Republicans that needs to be heard.

Kevin Freeman from the Economic War Room stopped by to talk about the economy. Also about the vote and just a really compelling half hour with Christopher Rufo talking about what does it mean. Now, if Donald Trump does leave office, what's going to happen with critical race theory? and all of these government institutions now teaching that, all on today's podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. The testimony yesterday.

I think this is Klein Cut 2. Listen to this. This is a testimony of a truck driver. Oh, yeah. This is compelling stuff. Right. That was picking up ballots. Listen.

I arrived at about the same time every day. The expediter scans all my seals and barcodes, and they unload me. But from the time I first arrived in Harrisburg from Bethpage, everything got weird. None of that happened. After waiting six hours, I went inside to figure out what's going on. I was told to wait for the transportation supervisor. This was also weird. 16 months I've been doing this.

I haven't ever talked to the transportation supervisor for the United States Postal Service. I talk to an expediter. I come in, I see an expediter. That's who I deal with. If I have an issue, it's the expediter. I don't deal with anyone else but the expediter. I never, never talk to the United States Postal Service's Transportation Supervisor.

Let's make that clear. I have my own transportation supervisor for the company that I work for. He's the one that gives me the details. He's the one that I listen to. I don't listen to this guy. He's the guy that would contact my boss if he needs something ran different. I like that. I've never spoken with this transportation supervisor from the United States Postal Service.

They don't speak to people like me. He's a top guy. He's the kind of guy that would speak to my boss, not a trucker like me. the supervisor told me to drive to to drive to Lancaster without being unloaded in Harrisburg this made no sense to me I knew the ballots were loaded

for Harrisburg and that if I was to go to Lancaster they would have to off unload my ballot or those pallets in Lancaster to take off Lancaster stuff to put the ballots back on the trailer the son that backed to Harrisburg.

Which didn't happen, by the way. Right. The whole thing disappeared, right? Yeah. It was something like 140,000 or 170,000 ballots. Yeah. It was, I mean, it's not like he was just delivering 20 pieces of mail. It was hundreds of thousands of votes and they're gone.

Yeah. Nobody's, nobody's found that truck. Nobody found, I mean, and he seems credible. He doesn't seem like he's a GOP operative or anything else. He seems like he seems like he's a GOP operative or anything else. seems like a truck driver. It seems like a regular guy. Yeah.

And I'd like to know, I mean, if we have a trucker that is listening, tell me about the transportation supervisor. Is he right about that? I mean, I'm sure. I'm sure in his own experience, he is. He certainly sounded. Yeah. I'd like to know what, what do they do exactly?

I don't, I don't know. I don't know why. I don't know what the significance necessarily was of the postal guy coming in and talking to him. Yeah. I, other than he had to wait. six hours and couldn't offload it and that's the guy who had to tell him go take him someplace else. Yeah.

Is it, do we, I mean, he's kind of just alleging weirdness, right? Like this is weird. Well, it was weird that his payload disappeared too. I mean, that's more than weird. That's like criminal. That's federal offense, right? When people are stealing mail off a mail truck, that's a crime. So there's one other case that is now going.

up to the Supreme Court, I think, and they're going to try to try it. Donald Trump's people are trying to try it. The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania said they're not willing to overturn the will of the people. And so they wouldn't even talk about this. They just dismiss this, but they're taking up to the court. Now, the guys who were on the Philadelphia court, or the Pennsylvania court was a Republican and maybe two Republicans and a Democrat, I think. They were, no, no, no, it was a, it was a Bush guy and two Trump people. Appointees. Right.

And they said that they won't, they won't try this case. And the case is that some of the counties allowed you to reconcile these ballots. Curing. Yeah. So they would cure the ballots. and the other counties wouldn't. And so you either have to cure them all or toss those ballots out. It's not enough to overturn the election.

At least we don't think. But it is a constitutional question because those voters were treated differently, which is what, 13th, 14th Amendment where you have to have equal standing. Yeah, equal standing for everybody. Yeah, and when to use the excuse that we're not going to overturn the will of the people, if there was fraud there, it's not the will of the people. So what are you talking about? Well, they're not alleging fraud in that case, right? They're saying, not that particular case, but the secretary of state came and said, you can have basically.

It was a constitutional item. They left it open to the local people to, if they wanted to have people curing their ballots or not. Some counties did it. Some counties didn't. And the, the case is that, well, they all should have been able to do it. it's I don't know if the right first of all there's not a lot of people that cure ballots it's a very it's a very rare thing it's not particularly widespread it's like 12,000

or 20,000 something like that across the entire state state but you know I don't know if the right thing to do would be to throw out every vote you know I wouldn't either I wouldn't think that's it's but I mean it is but you know this is we have

to be very careful on what we're doing the one thing that's not going to happen is after all of this is solved. We go in and we get rid of these voting machines and we get something that is using like blockchain or something. That's never going to happen. We're never going to get rid of the ballots that are just sent out by states. That's never going to happen. And those are the things that should happen. Even if Biden wins, Biden should be the guy saying, look, we have got to have some federal standards. States run this. But we have to have some federal standards.

You know, when it says one side is going to overlook, it means they're side by side. Okay, you can't put them, you know, into the nosebleed seats. They have to be side by side and be able to discuss the ballots as they're going. You know, we should put some safeguards in here so you don't have even the question anymore. Yeah, it's so tough. I mean, sometimes, like, we had Barry Loudermilk on from Georgia. And I was actually amazed about how many checks we did have. Yeah.

I was surprised because they, he was describing the system that he helped implement in Georgia, which was to have, uh, when you vote, you get a paper ballot spit out that says your vote on it. You check it yourself. That's what we do here. Right. So like it's, uh, and that's like, I think there's a lot of layers of that that I didn't, I didn't know.

And then they point out like in Pennsylvania, these, you know, the Dominion voting machines were not in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh. They were in 14 counties and Trump won those counties. 52% of the vote. So it's tough because it's just to talk about stuff that would overturn the entire election is you'd have to find something really, really widespread on this sort of Sidney Powell's scale, where Giuliani, some of the stuff he's brought up has real evidence and witnesses and things like that, but it's hard to find the scale.

It's a difficult question, and the timeline is working against these guys so strongly. Yeah, you have December 9th. December 9th is the last. And that's a week from today. Yeah. Right. December 14th is when the electors actually cast. Select.

Yeah. But it's December 9th is when they lock it all in, right? Yeah, they lock the electors in. So you got a week. Do they rip the knob off to? Lock it in. Lock it in. Rip the knob off.

The election's over. By the way, I asked to hear from truckers about the testimony that was given yesterday by a guy saying that the transportation supervisor at the post office. He had to wait for this guy and he said, truckers don't do that. Let me talk to Charles. You're a truck driver and you're on the road now? Yes, I am pulled over so I can talk to you. Okay. I have delivered mail, and I'm going to tell you, you do not speak to a supervisor.

He is absolutely correct. You go in, you speak to a guy behind the desk, the expediter, and the unloaders unload their mail only. They're not allowed to touch anybody else's mail. And I'm going to tell you, the post office is one of the most strict places you will ever go. you have to have what's called the bill of lading on your bill of lading you will have what is going to each particular stop you're going to if they do not take that they have to sign it refused and then you can go on if this was not done there is major major major major major oh my god wrong stuff going on so why would i don't think that that happened he was just told to take it

someplace else. They don't have to take it or refuse it. If they refuse it, then he's got to get with his company and then get instructions from his company. The post office cannot tell you to go and deliver their mail. So this part of this would have been marked for Harrisburg. And so when he stopped in Harrisburg, they should have just taken theirs. But instead, they said take theirs to another post office.

and that would be another bill, that would be another charge, that would be a whole another load. All right, thank you. Your shipper, your receiver cannot at all make that decision for you. Okay. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Stay safe, Charles.

I will tell you this one, I don't know, but these are the kinds of things that the media should be reporting, and these are the kinds of things that Americans should find the answers to quickly. Because if we have this happening, we have to know it and correct it. I found this witness very credible yesterday. Very, very credible. I don't know what it all means,

but we should look into it. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. You know, I buy a lot of stuff through auction for Mercury One and for the history collection. So I'm on all of these auction. you know, mailing list. And I just got one from heritage auctions, uh,

for purses. Now these are not specialty. These aren't like owned by Jackie O or something like that. These are just purses. And they are, uh, relatively new, gently used, not by famous people. And some of them are $80,000 for an Ermey's purse. Does Irmey's the actual God,

come with the purse? What the hell is that all about? I mean, I can justify crazy spending like nobody's business. I cannot. I can't. I honestly, I'm looking for an, what is it with this magic purse that makes them between $20,000 and $80,000 apiece, a purse? What? This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. You're the guy who has done so much work on, exposing critical race theory and showing it in our own government, which is really the shadow government kind of stuff that you would never think that the government officials are teaching other government employees that America is bad and systematically racist, but that's exactly what's happening. Donald Trump did a lot to stop all of that when he found out. It's all going

back in, isn't it? That's what they're saying. There was a document that's circulated from a consulting firm that was mapping out the potential Biden administration's first hundred days. And the executive order banning critical race theory, unfortunately, was one of the first things they're going to get rid of should he become president. What does that mean? Well, I mean, there's still a bit of debate. You know, it's a very stressful period. and I always want to get all of the facts, all the information. To me personally, it looks like Biden will become president. It looks like he won.

But I'm always leaving room open for new facts and new evidence. But what does it mean if our government now no longer is even hiding it? And you have an administration that is as radical as some of these people are in this administration. I think they make the Obama administration look really kind of calm, quite frankly, in the things that they could do. But introducing critical race theory not only in the government agencies, but Janet Yellen said that she is going to make one of the goals of the Treasury Department to be about equity, to make sure that, you know, we have everybody is even. and everybody is getting a piece of this. You know, the Treasury Department is probably the most ideologically charged agency, which was a huge surprise to me.

But I have sources within the Treasury Department that say there is an agency, the Office of Women and Minority Inclusion, that bombards Treasury employees on a daily basis with critical race theory propaganda. They're always hosting events, including with former fellow travelers of the Communist Party that have denounced the United States. during official Treasury Department events. So these activists that in the 1960s were in the streets on the outside, kind of pummeling the institutions that they believe were too conservative,

fast forward 50 years and the same kind of people, the same ideas that were the counterculture, are now in charge of our institutions and in charge of the federal bureaucracy in particular. It's a dangerous time and a dangerous moment. And I think we have to be one of the first societies in history to have a government that funds activists that hate the government, hate the state, and hate the nation. I talked to some people over in London a couple of weeks ago, and they said, because I've always thought London was crazy. England was crazy. France was even more crazy.

And they were talking to me about the reality on the ground over there and saying, you guys are way ahead of us. you are you're leading the world in some of this craziness now. We absolutely are. I think what you've seen in England and France and other European countries is there's been a kind of populist right that has been able to take power to win votes and then to exercise power in a way that would marginalize the opponents and marginalize the most extreme elements. And you see this throughout Europe. And I think, you know, looking back to the last four years,

Trump's presidency, I think, unfortunately, was a bit late to the game. I think these things were kind of hiding in the shadows were kind of sneaking around. And he didn't have the time or wherewithal to really put his foot down. And I think that any future Republican administration, one of the first things they have to do is do a top-to-bottom audit of all federal pro-fed federal research grants and get rid of anything that is anti-American in nature. The president is the chief executive and frankly should have the freedom and flexibility to what these values. We're shutting it down. Well, it would be, you would seem part of the oath to protect and defend the

constitution from any enemies, foreign or domestic, but I don't think they interpreted that way anymore, unfortunately. I don't even know if they even actually mean the words or think about the words when they're saying them. You said media political class street riders spent the last year ratcheting up social tensions. You went on and say the ballast are still being counted, but Joe Biden is already declaring he has a mandate on systematic racism. And AOC is creating a list of people to purge from public life. Scratch a progressive. Find a totalitarian. Time to push back. Christopher, what do you mean time to push? back. How does the average person do that? You know, you have to, you have to stand up and speak

out. And the thing is, is with all of these programs, all of these kind of hyper-progressive, race-based justice programs, it's not just being fought in Washington, D.C. It's not just being fought in national elections. These things have permeated almost every school district and local government in the country, especially in the urban centers. And it's up to people to find out what's happening in their local school districts and their local government and their county governments and actually organize and push back to publicize information, give documents to the press, raise a stink in public meetings because this is really a fight. And the last, unfortunately, is, you know, Pete Buttigieg's old campaign staff established a website and a database to

track every Trump supporter, every Trump attorney, every Trump administration official, and they're going to go around and try to blacklist them from polite society, from jobs, from professorships. Conservatives are really being marginalized, and the left only understands one thing. The left understands power. It's part of their theory. In critical race theory, for example, they reduce all kind of positive values to a kind of camouflage for naked power. So this isn't something we can debate intellectually. We actually have to create a ballast, or a counterweight that can push back in a form of organized power because that's the only thing is that that's going to stop them. Do you think you're on that list? Yeah, I probably am on the list,

you know, but I have fortunately great, great supporters, great employers, and, you know, I'm a man of the political right, so this comes with the territory. It doesn't actually bother me to be on that kind of list. But I think of a lot of people that I know who are, are corporate employees or tech employees or even just, you know, average citizens that are terrified to speak out. I mean, if you are a conservative Republican, just voicing your opinion right now is a kind of dangerous act. And I feel for all those people and I try to be a voice for them and try to give them courage to stand up for what they believe in. So the only time I've experienced that is when I worked at CNN. I have been blessed. I have been blessed.

enough to work in companies that you know supported both sides and since 2000 I've owned my own company so you know what am I going to do out myself as some sort of hate monger but I I can't imagine what it is is like to work in some of these companies and it is only going to get worse with the Treasury Department now saying you know the boardrooms have to have this certain kind of makeup etc etc they are not going on merit. They are going on gender and race. And, you know, the average person, I know a good friend of mine is an architect,

and he said he was listening to these, you know, his company come out with all these things. He didn't say anything. The guy next to him didn't say anything because they would have been, you know, fired. So what do they do? Do you just lose your job? Well, one thing that I'm going to be working on this coming year is to actually, find some, to establish some case law. So I'm working with some legal partners to try to find a case in corporate or in, or in the government, any kind of employer to establish that a lot of these

things are not only kind of distasteful and wrong, but they're actually illegal. They're actually a violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, which is kind of offering demeaning stereotypes of people based on race or sex. So I think one thing we can do in the next year or two is create a disincentive for companies to do this. And you could say, hey, this is now actually a legal risk. Doing this could actually be a violation of the law. And I think corporations are not doing this out of any great conviction. They're doing this essentially as an insurance policy to prevent activists from lambasting them as racist, activists left on cultural matters to protect their economic interests on financial matters. And I think what we have to do is really now raise the cost of

doing this because right now they pay no cost for telling, you know, half or two-thirds of their employees that they're internalized white supremacists. Right. But if we can establish and win a case to establish new case law that this is actually illegal, I think that will change the game in corporations quite rapidly. Are you familiar with a great reset? I am, you know, I've seen the memes. Yeah, I'm familiar with a great reset.

It is, you know, when you look at it. at their own words and even the words of John Kerry, who just last week told the Economic Forum that, you know, as climate czar, he is going to be able to really move this forward. And they asked if it was, if they were expecting too

much from a Biden administration on the Great Reset. And he said, no, it's definitely going to happen at a larger scale and more breathtaking than most people really understand. That is, that's a little frightening. Because, yeah, it is.

And I think it really underscores the extreme importance of winning those two Georgia Senate races. Because if we can create a kind of safety valve or a kind of preventer in the Senate, I think that will go a long way towards kind of crushing any large-scale changes. But, I mean, they're always going to hammer away at this stuff. And they believe in it. A lot of these folks, and, you know, I went to the, you know, the schools. and paled around with some of these, you know, they're more comfortable in kind of international elite education events than they are than they would be in Youngstown, Ohio, or Memphis, Tennessee,

or Stockton, California. And I think a lot of it is they really have just a limited understanding of how Americans live, what Americans value, and how life is outside of some kind of prestige global cities. So I think a big game during a new administration, but I think as these playing the public, as details come forward, you're going to see Americans put in their foot down and say, we don't want

this. This isn't confident with our values. Christopher Rufel, thank you so much. I'm glad to hear your wife is doing better. Is she over COVID now? Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, she had a hell of a battle with COVID and was in the hospital, but now she's home and doing a lot better and

I hope to get back to normal life. in the next couple days. Good. Thank you, Chris. I appreciate it. Thanks, Glenn. God bless.