The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Daniel Kelly | 4/3/23

Episode Date: April 3, 2023

Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to discuss the legality of a possible gag order reportedly to be placed on former president and presidential candidate Donald Trump. Does this first indictment of Trump mean more are coming down the line? Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice candidate Daniel Kelly joins to discuss this race's implications for the rest of America.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yes. He's finally gotten into the race. Oh, we've been begging and pleaded. Asa, please just consider 2024. Would you please just jump in? We've been saying it since the early 20s. And it's Was it the 1920s?

Yeah, I've been saying it for a long time. It does seem like a hundred years. It does. It does. And finally. And finally. And he had a good suggestion that, you know,

everybody who's in front of him get out of the race. And I think that's, you know, that'd be helpful for him. So, yeah. Yeah. So that's good. By the way, um,

Desantis is, was up in Pennsylvania. Yeah, and it looks like he's, you know. Almost for sure running. Oh, right? I mean, is there any doubt in your mind? Well, no. I've talked to him.

While he never said to me, he was running, I've had several sit downs, you know, with him. And there's. And pretty recent, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there is absolutely no doubt in my mind. I'm excited about that. Are you? Yeah, I am.

I think he's great. I also like Vivek, though. Yeah, I like Vivek, too. Not a chance, but I like Vivek. Right, I know. I like Vivek. Just the name will probably hamper him. Right?

It's so odd. It's like, you know, Barack Obama. Yeah. You know, we don't vote for people like that. Weird names. No, we sure don't. All right. There's also, you know, Donald Trump, you know, being indicted tomorrow.

There is that. Yeah, we got that going for. His legal team says that the judge is probably going to impose a, a gag order on him. Is that even legal? How is that possible? I don't know. These gag orders, they seem to happen a lot.

Yeah. And no, if you're coming after me, no, I'm going to defend myself in the media. You're not going to have a one-way street on this. Plus, I'm a presidential candidate. You can't gag me. There's, I was it possible? I don't think it is.

Well, the NYPD apparently is. is not happy with the Manhattan DA. They said, nobody wants to be the one bringing Trump in. Cops believe this is a case of political persecution. And on the facts, it's a joke, according to NYPD sources. We were kind of wondering this morning,

why doesn't he just stay in Florida where DeSantis said, he's not going to go get him? He's not going to allow that. Just stay there and don't go to New York and you won't have to be brought in. I wonder what would happen. What would happen? Are you going to forcefully go remove Donald Trump from Mara Lago? Yes, they would.

You think so? Yeah, they would. Man, what a country. What a country. Besides Aza Hutchinson running, which just rolls off the tongue. Sure does. What else is so? and and the Donald Trump

well I really like the fact that James Patterson has called out the New York Times for their bizarre bestseller list practices and I think you might have mentioned this before if I'm not mistaken I read the article this morning and it mentions me yeah that I've been

I've been saying this for a long long time but Patterson is like I sold the by far the most amount of books and what was he it was like he has a hundred and fourteen New York Times bestsellers, which is the Guinness Book of World Record holder. And 67 of them went to number one.

Right. So he's a guy who knows what he's talking about. And he's not even talking about one of his books right now. He's talking about Mike Pompeo's book, which was ahead of, I don't know, six books that were listed above him. And he's like, why? Best seller should be, I don't know, the person who sold the best. No, no, no. They have a special.

they have a special look at it. They have a special formula. And what is that formula? If it is, if it's something the liberals like, it goes higher. That doesn't seem like a good formula. No, it's a very complex algorithm. Very complex algorithm. Don't they claim, do they claim some of these bookstores have more weight than others?

Yes. These little teeny, you know, heritage bookstores, which all tend to be around, you know, university they get weighted more. So if they sell one book, it's like selling three books. Ah, that's crazy. Yeah, oh, no.

That is crazy. It's super, super accurate. So you got that going for you. Stu, biggest story of the day for you. I was just to finish up on that New York Times thing. It is amazing that you're not speculating there. That's like what they admit. They admit they have their own formula that

going to bring in that certain books sold at certain bookstores count as more. Right. And these are the people that are talking to us about the science. These are the people that are talking about fairness and facts. The same type of people certainly that say an apple is an apple. And you have to admit when an apple is an apple. But a book sale is not a book sale. Right.

Exactly right. Yeah. Exactly right. Can I bring up one other thing that seems kind of important to me, but I haven't heard hardly anybody talking about. and that's the fact that, you know, here we are talking about TikTok and how China could be spying on all Americans. I think a more important issue is that they control all of our medication. Almost all medication is manufactured in China.

Why is that? Because if they decide that, I don't know, we really are an enemy and they don't want to provide us with our medication anymore, a lot of people are going to die. Including me. So now you care. Now I care. Now you care. Right. Okay.

Now I didn't care before. I didn't care before when other people were going to die. But now it involves me. Right. And I kind of want my medication. Right. So why aren't we even talking about that? How is it possible that nobody's saying?

Why are we talking about all of the things? I know. When it comes to China, we're not talking about any of it. You know what we're talking about trans stay? That's what we're talking about. Right. Trans stay. What the hell?

Can we talk about the medical situation? Which could be one of the most important things of all time for us. Do you know that we are now having baby food shortages? Yes, again. Again? Again. But that's okay. Tariffs work wonders on that one.

No, they're great. By the way, Glenn said, I mean, what are we talking about, the trends day? But can we talk about the trends day for just one second? Sure, because. Sure. Here's the thing. It's called the Trans Day of Visibility. Just to be clear, we can see, we can tell.

We're aware. This is not, we can't, we have eyes, we notice. Yeah, but they were, they took it. I don't understand what you're saying there, Stu. I'm saying it's visible. We are aware. Yeah, but not until the day of visibility, though. Not until the day of visibility.

No. We couldn't see it before that. They were invisible. And can I ask one question here? Yeah. We had a, when, let's say, some right-wing lunatic goes into a trans gathering and commits a mass shooting, first of all, we would be the first people on the air saying how terrible that was and how awful it was. And how awful that person was. Even if they claim to be Christian or claim to be Republican or claim to be a Donald Trump supporter or whatever.

And just because I'm a clotheshorse, I might have commented on the trans person's clothing in their outfit. Might have. That's good or bad. Might have done it. You are fashion. So you have this situation where if a right-wing person goes in and was to commit a mass shooting of trans people, we would, media, society in general, would of course say, I can't believe this. Are trans people in danger? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

rightly so, right? If there was a physical attack against trans people, that would be a normal reaction for society. But what actually happened was a trans person shooting a bunch of children at a Christian school. And the media reaction is still, trans people should be worried, they're in danger. What can't? Well, wait, wait, wait, I'd just like to add just one little fact to that. That makes the third trans people.

A trans person that has been a, you know, a shooter. A shooter of multiple people. Plus a non-binary. Yeah, non-binary. So they're in danger. They can be killed by police at any time as they're shooting people. And to be clear, we saw as protesters were holding up seven fingers to say there were seven victims of the shooting, including the shooter. I've heard zero from the media about how Christian children at schools should be worried about their futures.

That apparently is not interesting at all. In fact, I haven't heard word one really about these victims. All we've heard is about the trans people and how they are in danger from this incident somehow, because I guess evil conservatives are going to get mad that apparently trans people are shooting children in Christian schools. Can you believe that they'll probably pounce on that as an opportunity to dislike trans people, more. I mean, it's just, this has been, of all the things we could describe the media and Democrats in general as being despicable on, this one might get close to the top of the charts. In a story that has absolutely no relation to what we're talking about at all, cut four, please.

Have you seen the lightning that has struck New York over the weekend? Watch this. This is absolutely incredible. I mean, that's nuts. Yeah. It's nuts. Yeah. It's nuts. Yeah. If you're listening to us, you're like, what's nuts? You're not watching it with us on the blaze. That's what's crazy. Should be a subscriber. A bolt of lightning anchors down on the Freedom Tower, and it just becomes a lightning cage and is held there for a while.

It's crazy. It's really cool. But, you know, I'm sure that. Since nobody got hurt, it's really cool. Yeah. If it would have electrocuted everybody in the building, it wouldn't have been quite as cool. Well, then we would have, we have to worry about charge. friends lives.

Yeah. I mean, it could have been full of Christian children and who gives a flying crap. All right. Thank you, Pat Gray from Pat Gray on Leash. You can hear every day before this rat infested program. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And we really want to thank you for listening. Tomorrow is a pretty big day for the Republic.

Tomorrow, a former president in the United States is going to be arraigned in. New York. And we'll find out what the charges are. I mean, so far, we think that it is, you know, all around the idea that Donald Trump claimed legal fees on paperwork when he paid somebody off in court, Stormy Daniels. And apparently, you can't do that. As Hillary Clinton found out, as she declared legal fees for the... the, the, the, uh, the, uh, the dossier, right?

Yeah, Fusion GPS dossier. And so you had, you had her get a nasty fine. You have Donald Trump, uh, you know, possibly going to jail. But we don't know what the charges are. We hopefully will find out what they are after he has been arraigned, or sorry, not arraigned, but in indicted and he comes in and is fingerprinted and they officially charge him. Now, it's my understanding that the judge may issue a gag order, which is insanity. Is insanity.

Wait a minute. How do you would, wait a minute, you're saying that the media can pile on and say these things, but he's not allowed to say anything and he's running for president of the United States? How is that even possible? they can just continue to slander him and he can't defend himself. Yeah, absolutely incredible. I mean, we don't know that that's going to happen.

That is what has been reported, though, today. Right. And if that does happen, it's a disgrace because not only is he a free citizen that should be able to defend himself publicly, particularly in a situation like this. I mean, this is not a, you know, it's not a major, it's a improper classification

of campaign expenditures is what they're charging him. with. Obviously he denies a lot of this. But like besides the fact that any normal citizen should not have this happen to him, I mean, it's a central part of the argument Donald Trump is making to be reelected, right? The central part of his argument is that I am being targeted by these forces in the government that you need me there to stop. Like that is, it's like his entire argument to become president of the United States again. I know. And they want to take him, they want to take that out of his mouth? I mean, that's certainly not America. Absolutely impossible. You know, we're actually repeating history. I mean, not exactly,

but the progressives are. The Progressive Party put Eugene Debs. He was the founder of the International Socialists Party, founder, I think, of the communist movement here in America. He was a labor union guy, an organizer. And he was put into jail under Grover Cleveland because convicted of federal charges for defying a court injunction against the strike and served six months in prison. But then in 1920, he's running. And in 1918, he starts speaking out against World War I. and Woodrow Wilson charged him with the Sedition Act and put him in prison for 20 years, was it?

Convicted Sedition Act sentence to a 10-year prison term. So he was supposed to go to a prison for 10 years, and it was only because Harding came in and Wilson didn't run for a third term that he was released. the Republican came in and said the Sedition Act is absolutely unconstitutional. They got rid of the Sedition Act and they forgave him. But he ran for president from prison, from prison and got three and a half percent, which is more than Asa Hutchinson will get being a free man,

which is weird. What do you think of the politics of this, Glenn, and how this plays out? I mean, the standard way of thinking seems to be that this is going to help Trump in the primary and then question marks in the general. What do you think of that analysis? I think it makes America a more dangerous place because you're going to have the tensions just escalate, especially if they take away and give him a gag order. They also can charge him for saying things against the district attorney, which is insane to me. Where's your freedom of speech?

What do you mean? You're not going to say things against the district attorney? He's on television saying bad things about you. What are you talking about? So there may be a gag order coming. They may throw additional charges on because of what he has said publicly about the district attorney. I don't know, but I just, I don't see this being a good thing. Does this rally Republican voters in the primary?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Already has. So let me see. There's a new poll out that shows, and this poll was done by John McLaughlin. Now, this is Trump's pollster. But it shows full-fledged ballot test, 14 potential Republican candidates. President Trump leads with 51%.

DeSantis is now at 21. In January, President Trump led to feel 43. DeSantis was at 31. In a matchup of just DeSantis and Trump, Trump skyrocketed over 60%. Now 63% total. DeSantis had just 30%. And in the general election,

margin of error 3.1, Trump found leading Biden 47 to 43%. So he's winning in all of them. And it looks like, except for the general, it looks like the indictment is swaying Republicans. I mean, you're hearing almost exclusively, I don't know, Asa Hutchinson might be the exception to this, but even the Republican candidates running against him, are saying how, what a disgrace this is, including DeSantis, including pretty much everybody coming out and saying, look, this is, this is wrong. The question I think is, you know, politically, you get past this first stage, right? I mean, Trump is comes into this is the overwhelming favorite.

I know some of these polls look close, but like, you know, he's, he's a former president. He controls every news cycle. It would be, you know, he would have to, in some ways, blow this to not win. I mean, DeSantis has never been proven on the stage, and I like DeSantis quite a bit. but he's never had, he's never been in this situation before. We don't know what to expect out of a DeSantis run, assuming he does get in, which I'm sure he will. He's done a really good job in Florida, and I think there's all expectations that he'd do a good job on a national campaign, but we still haven't seen that. Trump has to be seen as the favorite. And then you see like an issue where, you know, again, the main conversation among Republicans in their politics right now is what's going on with Donald Trump.

it seems to be the only thing we've talked about since 2015 is just this one person. And when you're that one person, you have a massive advantage here, don't you? Yeah, you do. And here's the thing. This isn't the only investigation. You have the investigation of election interference in Georgia. You have the classified documents. You have January 6th.

And you have the Stormy Daniels case. This is only one out of four, which is one of the most incredible things I have ever seen in American politics. Never before has this happened. Gerald Ford lost the re-election because, well, Gerald Ford sucked, but also because he pardoned Richard Nixon. And people thought that was wrong. I happened to agree that that was wrong, but they did it for. a reason you didn't want to have a sitting president go through trial. I personally would have found that inspirational. I personally would have found a president going to trial for an actual

crime. Inspirational. No one in our government is above the law. No one. You don't get you break the law, you go to jail. The problem is, and we see this now, you can be had with as many laws as we have, you can be had for anything. Look at how this guy has had every single, I will bet you, every single intelligence group, including the five eyes, looking for dirt on this guy. Maybe the only one that wasn't was Israel. Every other intelligence agency in the world was looking for dirt on this guy. And, you know, who was it, Maxine Waters says, well, he earned this. He earned this.

I'll tell you that right now. Did he? Did he? Who could withstand that kind of scrutiny? I've said to him myself, I got to tell you, Mr. President, I mean, I thought, because I lived in New York. I watched you build these buildings. And these buildings, remember, Stu?

They would just go up. Trump buildings, they'd go up. Everything else would take forever. And Trump would have, and it would be done. And I said to him, you know, you're a construction guy in New York where everything's bottoming, you know. Hey, don't ask about Johnny. He might be at the bottom of the river today. And I said, if anything, I thought, for sure, there would have been some.

or something going on in New York. I said, you are shockingly one of the cleanest guys. You have to be one of the cleanest guys because they've gone after everything and nothing. You get this, something that's not really a crime? What do you think about the, because there's a theory out there. And whether it's coordinated or not is a separate question. But the theory basically is that this Stormy Daniels case being the weakest of the four or five cases that are out there. Right.

It was intentionally put forth first. Now, of course, it is the oldest one, too, so it could just be that simple. But the idea is that while they all want to go after Donald Trump, there weren't a lot of DAs that wanted to be the person who pulled the trigger on the first time a president had been charged. It was a big hurdle, a big sort of wall there, and people didn't want to be the first one to go down that road and have to deal with all that. And now that this Stormy Daniels thing has gone forward, they're going to indict him and they have indicted him on this, that it makes the other cases more likely to come forward because now they don't have to deal with that precedent-setting thing. Well, they're going to indict, I think, in Georgia. But again, it will be laughable. You remember, she was the foreman of the jury.

And she was like, yeah, we got to get him on something. I just couldn't wait to get him on something. I mean, that's crazy. They're going to probably indict there. They cannot indict on the documents. How are they going to possibly indict? Oh, that was so weak. Weaker than this one, though.

Weaker than this one? I mean, it's, they're both so weak that you would think there's no way. But if they indict him on this, which is a misdemeanor that is out of its, what do you call it, you know, statute of limitations,

it's outside of that. How are they even charging? If that's indeed what they're charging with. Right. And it really is incredible. And I think, you know, you're going to see,

you can go back and forth on all these cases. I'd love to get your take maybe a little bit in a little while. of which one you think are the most likely to come through. What is Trump going to have to deal with here going forward? The best of the Glenn Beck program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We were just looking up Hungary. It is where George Soros is from.

And it is the country that I was thinking of. In 1956, the Soviet Union invaded Hungary to crush a popular uprising against the communist government. And they had already infiltrated that government, had all their people in place. They then cause chaos on the streets. And then the tanks rolled in in 1956. All right. We have Dan Kelly on. He is a candidate for the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

He is a former Wisconsin Supreme Court justice. This race in Wisconsin is extraordinarily important. And he is on now with us. He was up on an airplane. It was running late. So he missed the first exposure. here just a few minutes ago. We luckily have him on the phone now. Hi, Dan. How are you? I'm doing great, Glenn. Thank you so much for having me on your show. This is great.

You bet. You are running a very important race right now. How do you say the last name of Janet? She who must not be named. Okay. So, that's how we pronounce that. She is from another planet. And she is not just a liberal. She is a progressive. Tell me the difference between you two. Yeah, it could not be larger. It's the difference between the rule of law and the rule of Janet Protisawicz. And what I mean by that is, you know, in our constitutional system, the Constitution tells those in office what they are to do.

And I understand that as a Supreme Court justice, your role is simply to apply the existing law to resolve the cases to come before us. That's the rule of law. The rule of Janet, she intends to place herself above the law. She has actually gone so far as to say that she would place her thumb on the scales of justice to make sure the cases are resolved according to her personal politics. That is crazy. It is crazy.

It is a complete breach of trust with the people of Wisconsin. It is unconstitutional, and she is dead set on doing this. And this is why I think that this race is gaining attention across the country. Because I don't say, I'm not aware of any judicial candidate. in the history of the country, who's ever campaigned on a platform of setting herself about the law, of rejecting the constitutional order.

And yet that's what she's all about. And there are people like George Sorrells and Governor Pritzker from Illinois who are piling in tons of money to make sure that this happens for them. Well, I don't think that's going to happen here in Wisconsin because I think the people of Wisconsin have really level heads up their shoulders.

They're going to see right through this. And they still treasure their constitutional order they treasure the liberties that their constitution protects. And the last thing they want is for progressive lawyers sitting in a Madison courtroom telling them what laws they can and cannot have and what liberties they may and may not enjoy. I think they're going to reject that out of hands. What is the balance of the court now? Four to three.

And one of the Constitution following justices is retiring. So this is for all the marvels. If they win this seat, the Constitution. order in Wisconsin is going to crumble because you simply cannot have foreign lawyers setting themselves above the law and reducing the other two branches of government to basically just their handservants. So that's the risk here. But like I said, I think the people of Wisconsin are got to see through this. So we just need to come out by tomorrow, no later than eight o'clock and vote to uphold our constitutional heritage.

And that's what it's about. I just wanted, because this is one of the most incredible things I've ever heard. As you're talking, I'm looking it up. There are some cases that she absolutely said she would put her thumb on the scale of justice to correct laws that she thinks are wrong, such as congressional district maps, which she called rigged. So if she disagrees with it, I mean, that is, that is, that's not a judge. That's a dictator. That's exactly right. So we call that.

When it happens on the court, we call it a judicial tyranny because she would be using power that the people of Wisconsin have never loaned to her. And I understand the authority of the court is simply on loan from the people of Wisconsin to whom that power belongs. And she just, she wants to reject all of that and become the source of authority, the source of law. And that would just overturn the constitutional order. who are the future of our constitutional heritage in the state of Wisconsin is on the line.

But it's also going to have implications nationwide because of that gambit works here, there will be people that pick that up and use it as a template to push other courts in activist and political directions to set up judicial tyrannies in other states. I know a, I know a federal judge who said the lower courts are already out of control, he said. He has seen court rulings where the judge has said this law doesn't make any sense and we're doing this and completely untethered from the Constitution or the rule of law, no matter what that law is. In 2020, there was a 10 million

dollar bounty for the seat. They spent $10 million for that race. That was the record. The national record is $15 million spent in Illinois. Already, there's more than $37 million spent on this race. Yeah. We're expecting it to go north of $50 million by the end of the day tomorrow. That is unbelievable. Please tell me some of that money is for our side. It is. So fortunately, there are folks around the country that still value the constitutional order who understand that the role of the court is just to apply the law, not to make it up, not to change it, not to ignore it, but just to faithfully apply it every day as the Constitution commands them.

And so they've come along, and they've been supporting our efforts here in Wisconsin, and there's been enough that we've been able to get the information to all the folks across Wisconsin so that they can exercise an intelligent choice by 8 p.m. tomorrow. So, yeah, my opponent's got a ton of money, and she'll outspend us. But I'm not too worried about that because that bill of goods that she's trying to sell, I don't think there's enough money in the country to sell that to the good people in Wisconsin. I don't know.

I mean, I so, I don't know how to judge the American people anymore. I know that there's good people out there on both sides. But there's not a lot of people that are awake on the other side. and, you know, we're sitting here facing some of the worst times our country has ever had, and it doesn't seem like the American people really even know what's going on. Yeah, well, and Glenn, you know, and I think there is, you're reflecting a measure of concern that I do have. You and I both know what it took to originally secure the liberties that we cherish so well. You know, at the end of the Declaration of Independence, right before everyone signed their names,

they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. And many of them lost their lives or were bankrupted or convicted of treason. But they didn't count that a price too high to pay to secure those liberties. Now, today, we still have a responsibility of securing those liberties. But it's a pretty easy thing to do. You just kind of vote. you don't have to lay your life on the line. You don't have to face bankruptcy.

You don't have to sacrifice your sacred honor. You just need to come out and vote. And yet I'm worried that because it costs so little, the people might value it little. So our project really is to remind the people in Wisconsin who they are, that they are the bosses in this form of government. And it's their responsibility to come out and make sure that we secure our constitutional heritage. So we can hand that down to the next.

generation, they can do the same after that. It just comes down coming out. Now, last fall, there were 2.6 million people that came out to vote. And we're expecting that if we reach 1.6 to 1.8 million by the end of the day tomorrow, that'll be a lot. But think about that. That's an 800,000 to a million vote drop off between fall and spring. And so our project is to get to all of them and remind them of the importance of securing our heritage. Because they're There is nothing written. And I know you've talked about this before, Glenn. There's nothing written that says that we are guaranteed to have our Constitution from one generation to the next.

No. We have to do that. We have to stand up and make sure that we secure it so that we can hand that down. And we do that through voting. It's so easy to do. What's really so frustrating, Dan. By the way, we are talking to Dan Kelly. He is running for the Supreme Court in Wisconsin.

Tomorrow is the last day to vote. It is extraordinarily important that you vote for Dan Kelly in Wisconsin. Do it today. Last chance is tomorrow. But Dan, you know what's so frustrating is our founders knew this. Thomas Jefferson said that it's not right, I'm paraphrasing horribly, that we would rule from the grave. It needs to be up to every generation. but they made that part of the Constitution.

You can change it by changing the Constitution through amendments, but they don't do that. They never do that. Instead, they undermine the Constitution and get activist judges, which is not a democracy. That's not how a republic, for sure, but even a democracy is supposed to work. Yeah, it's just lawless when that happens. And it's not like we don't know how to do this. I mean, we've amended the United States Constitution 27 times. We've amended the Wisconsin Constitution more times than I can remember.

So we know how to do this. When the document needs to change, we can do that, but we follow the constitutional order. That's what we require. So these politicians who want to dress up like judges and go to the Supreme Court so that they can set aside laws that they don't like, so that they can change the meaning of our Constitution so it's more compatible with what They are rejecting the very idea of law. Law has to have a fixed and discernible meaning. And if it changes depending on what a judge says, then it's not really law at all.

It's just the judge exercising law power. So it really is about protecting the concept of law. It's about protecting the concept of the constitutional order. Real quick, because I've only got about 90 seconds here. You are for, you know, actual sentencing of criminals. The lenience for criminals is not part of your playbook. You support the Second Amendment. It's not clear if she does, but she's supported by gun control groups.

The life question, you are pro-life. She is very pro-abortion. And the lockdowns from COVID, where do you stand against them? where was she or where is she? So, yeah, so I think that she favors lawmaking wherever it might occur according to her particular tastes. Now, what I do, you know, I was on the court while the lockdown occurred, and the lockdown order came to us for review, and by a four to three decision, we decided that it was

an unlawful order. But two of us on the court, Justice Rebecca Bradley and I, we looked at that and we said, well, there's a more serious question about more than whether it went through the rule propagation process. It was a question of whether the executive branch agencies could use the power of the legislature to actually make laws all by themselves for the state of Wisconsin. And so we looked at that and we said that was unconstitutional. We struck down that order so that people could continue to enjoy the right to set their

own laws in conversation with their legislatures. So they're not having an executive branch bureaucrat, usurp that power, and exercise it on when they have no right or authority to do so. Justice Daniel Kelly, thank you so much. If you want to know more about him, you bet. Good luck. You want to know more about him, Justice Daniel Kelly.com. It is vital. If you were in Wisconsin, you were thinking, ah, it doesn't matter.

This matters to all of us. Vote Daniel Kelly in the Wisconsin subcommittee. Court. Whatever way you vote, I mean, I hope you vote for Daniel, but whatever way you vote, your voice must be heard in Wisconsin. Last day to vote is tomorrow.