The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guest: Dr. Wilfred Reilly | 2/20/20

Episode Date: February 20, 2020

The ninth Democratic debate was a first for Mike Bloomberg and possibly the last, as Elizabeth Warren argued Democrats shouldn’t trade “one arrogant billionaire for another.” And Bernie was fuming when the competition hammered socialism using conservative arguments! 1776 Project co-founder Dr. Wilfred Reilly advocates that our nation is not defined by racist failures as the 1619 Project suggests, but by the opportunities we all have here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello America. Great show, great podcast for you today. We're going to give you the recap of the debate. Lots of fun. Lots of fun. And it couldn't be at the expense of a better group of people. So we'll tell you what happened in the Democratic debate. Also, Bloomberg was accused of calling somebody a horse-faced lesbian and a fat, what was it, a fat wench or something like? Well, I looked up where that came from. Oh, she should have quoted the whole thing. Wait until you hear the actual quote and where it came from. Also, we try to look at what good has ever come out of a communist country. And the 1776 project, which is the answer to the 1619 project from the New York Times. Why this is so critical that people understand. And a couple things to make sure you to check out. The Wednesday special from Glenn Beck on the TV show, a new format where you're going deep dive into all

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The Best of the Glenn Beck program. So Bloomberg makes his first appearance, and everybody's so desperate, they all have to take Bloomberg out. So the guns, even from sweet little grandma Elizabeth Warren, who just doesn't like to say a bad word about anybody. She had some words saved up for him last night. Here's Bloomberg as he tries to make him.

his case. Bloomberg makes his case. I'm a New Yorker. I know how to take on an arrogant conman like Donald Trump that comes from New York. I'm a mayor. It was a mayor. I know how to run a complicated city, the biggest, most diverse city in this country. I'm a manager. I knew what to do after 9-11 and brought the city back stronger than ever. And I'm a philanthropist who didn't inherit his money, but made his money. And I'm spending that money to get rid of Donald Trump, the worst president we have ever had.

And if I can get that done, it will be a great contribution to America and to my kids. Wow, compelling, isn't it? You know, it's funny because he doesn't strike me as America's neighbor. I thought that was a mayor. I thought that was Rudy Giuliani that really

brought the city together. He's the one that everybody looks at, not Michael Bloomberg. It was Bloomberg's night last night to be taken apart. And Elizabeth Warren had a lot to do with it. Listen to Warren, one billionaire for another. Do we have that? Can we, Sarah, can we?

I'd like to talk about who we're running against. A billionaire who calls women fat broads and horse-faced lesbians. And no, I'm not talking about Donald Trump. I'm talking about Mayor Bloomberg. Democrats are not going to win if we have a nominee who has a history of hiding his tax returns, of harassing women, and of supporting racist policies like redlining and stop and frisk. Look, I'll support whoever the Democratic nominee is. But understand this.

Democrats take a huge risk if we just substitute one arrogant billionaire for another. You know, this kills me. First of all, she's right. One arrogant billionaire for another. One is actually kind of charming, and the other one is just an ass. But it kills me that they keep saying, I'll support whoever the nominee is. Are you kidding me? Do you see who's up on the stage with you?

I mean, it's one thing if you're like, look, you know, it's Mitt Romney, it's George Bush, it's John McCain. Well, they're all kind of the same. You know, I don't know. If it's Ronald Reagan, Mussolini, I'll vote for whoever the people want. No, I don't think that's a good idea. Isn't the lesson here, though, that the Democrats, I mean, they're all pretty much the same? Yes.

Yes, they just claim not to be. Varying levels of transparency on that. But they're all pretty much the same. So here's, this is, let me give you just the, just the feeling. of what really, if you didn't watch it, here's what you missed. Cut one, audio, please. The Affordable Care Act, not blow it up. Let me just, I will.

You name check three of them. Let me get. I'll get Senator Sanders. You are. Okay. Go ahead, Senator Sanders. We'll get you in, miss. All right.

We've got a lot of people in here. We got hit. Some. I mean, that's, that is the chaos of the Democratic Party. Meanwhile, you had Donald Trump. at a rally out in, I think it was California, wasn't it? And he, the people carried a World War II veteran on their shoulders into the arena. One makes you feel good about America.

The other one just tears it apart. Which do you think Americans are going to vote for? I mean, Ronald, he has become Donald Trump, because the Democrats are so nasty and angry and fighting and the, what is it, the Bernie boys, which I think is just really

a bad name for these guys. The Bernie Bros. Or Bernie Bros. It makes it sound like they're just, you know, oh, they're crazy boys. You know, boys will be boys. No. No, the Bernie Bros are dangerous people. You've got

with what's happening on the left and with, with the Democrats, it makes Donald Trump look more optimistic, more like Ronald Reagan, more of the happy warrior than he ever has. They are just a group of nasty, angry, unhappy people. And I don't know why Buttigieg is not doing better than he is other than he's clearly not qualified. and the voting-based, you know, you want to talk about homophobes. Did you hear anybody? Did you hear anybody on the right have a problem with Donald Trump when he had,

what's his name, Peter Thiel speak at the Republican convention? I've heard a lot of problems with Donald Trump naming the first gay cabinet-level position member in American history, which is happening right now with Grinnell. And they seem pissed off about that. Yeah. Who even knows? Who even really knows that? Nobody's paying it to... Nobody's up in arms about that, except the left.

Nobody is up in arms about that. But wait a minute, you've got a gay presidential candidate in Buttigieg? Oh, dear God, no. Their own people are turning away from it. I mean, it is astounding. Now, here's Pete Buttigieg last night. Listen to what he had to say. Most Americans don't see where they fit.

they've got to choose between a socialist who thinks that capitalism is the root of all evil and a billionaire who thinks that money ought to be the root of all power. Let's put forward somebody who actually lives and works in a middle-class neighborhood in an industrial Midwestern city. Let's put forward somebody who's actually a Democrat. That's the line of the night. That's a good point. To me, that's the line of the night.

Let's put forth an actual Democrat. It's the Democratic convention. It's the Democratic primary. You're running Bloomberg, who's whatever it is on a windy day. If the wind's blowing this direction, he's that. If he's on that way, he was a Republican just a few years ago.

Basically Charlie Christ. Yeah, he's just whatever he needs to be. And Bernie Sanders, and I got to stop calling him a socialist. He's not. He's a communist. He has never met a communist, regime that he didn't like. Not one.

Not one. He called communism. It was a low blow. Because Bloomberg said that last night. He went on about whether, you know, we've tried this before, right? Like, we're not going to get rid of capitalism. We've tried the alter. And it.

It's called communism. And everyone's like, oh. And then Bernie came out. The next question, he goes, by the way, you said, he's called me a communist and that was a low blow. Why? Why? I mean, like, I love this idea.

You're a socialist and you think communism is a low blow. let's put them all in a larger category called Marxism. Right. You're a Marxist. How about that? And you know what? You know what's crazy? It shows that they are just playing on people's naivity.

They don't, people don't understand that communism has actually never been done. The Soviet Union and China, they claim to be communist, but that's not it. If you understand Marx, Marx says socialism is the road to communism. You don't get to communism until everybody's like, oh, you know what? I'm so happy. We don't need a stupid gulag anymore. We're all here and we're all just going to share the wealth. Well, that's never happened, nor will it ever happen until Jesus comes.

And everybody says, you know what? I just love him so much. Here, take what you want of my stuff. that will never happen. Never. But that's what communism is. Communism gets this name of this bad name because you've got to take it by force. You have gulags.

You have indoctrination camps. All of that stuff. That, my friend, is socialism. That is what brings you to communism. Because the only way to do it is to kill all the people. people that like, no, you're not taking my stuff. No, I don't want to do that. Those people have to be reeducated or killed. Once you get rid of them, well, then you're fine. By the way, I'm a little more outspoken on Bernie today because we have a meeting after we finish our Wednesday

night special and we are already now a week into what's coming next Wednesday. And last night I had a meeting and again this morning and I went over all of the audio and all of the video that we have for next week's Wednesday night special, which is on Bernie Sanders and his communist radical ties and the people in his campaign. This man is a danger. And I am so sick and tired of having people tell me when Jeremiah Wright's pupil was sitting in the White House, and I said, the guy's a Marxist, the guy's a socialist. Oh, how dare you, you racist. In 2004, when I warned the Democrats, don't put Michael Moore in the presidential box because he is a socialist Marxist.

and you think you're using him, but I'm telling you right now they're going to come back. You are going to be so surprised you're using them. Right. They're using you, buddy, and they're going to eat you. I'm so sick and tired of being told, oh, that's just nonsense. It's not. It's very apparent now, isn't it? Listen, because this may be the last warning you get.

Bernie Sanders has surrounded himself with very dangerous people. And you're going to meet all of them next Wednesday. There's a chance that Bernie Sanders actually gets the nomination. Now, I don't see that happening, and it will be a colossal disaster if he does for the Democrats. But it couldn't happen to a better group of people. However, if Bernie Sanders, if they try to engineer this, or even if somebody like Bloomberg, gets that nomination legitimately, Bernie Sanders and his Bernie bros will burn Milwaukee to the ground, these people are serious, Marxist, communist, radical anarchists. last warning America you're about to put one of these guys in office

last warning you know here's the here's the problem with Buttigieg I mean Buddha judge could I go to audio cut number 22 please Buddha judge has been lecturing people on Christianity for a while and this one I don't know how people in South Carolina

took this cut 22, please. Then, I just can't imagine that that requires a view that you be anywhere near this president. Do you think it is impossible to be a Christian and support President Trump? Well, I'm not going to tell other Christians how to be Christians, but I will say I cannot find any compatibility between the way this president conducts himself and anything that I find in scripture. Now, I guess that's my interpretation, but I think that's a lot of people's interpretation.

and that interpretation deserves a voice. Okay, okay, very good. Except the fact that a lot of people would find your lifestyle antithetical to what's found in the Bible. I mean, you just, Pete, you can't make this claim. You know, I just don't know how you would vote for him because the way he lives his life, I mean, you know, you can't find that in the Bible. well you also can't find anything but stoning of homosexuality

and stoning of homosexuals in the Bible too old timey sure bad yes but it's not an endorsement nowhere in the Bible is there an endorsement of that I mean at best you can say well Jesus never talked about it well Jesus never talked about tweeting either I mean I just it's a weird pitch from me him. I think he thinks that he's showing a friendliness to faith, his version of it,

and because so many on stage show a seeming almost aggression against faith, this will make him appeal to people in the middle who are like maybe conservative Democrats or maybe even, you know, liberal Republicans who might be faith-based and see, well, you know, everyone else seems to almost like despise faith. At least he's mentioning it. But I think it's almost the opposite because he seems like he's preaching to everybody else. Right. Exactly right. You can't pick and choose if you're going to use the Bible.

You're going to say, well, I'm a Bible believe in person. It's like Donald Trump. It drove me nuts when he was like, yeah, you know, I love the two Corinthians. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop talking about it. Okay. But if you just want to say, look, I mean, you know, I try to live my life based on, you know, basic principles. Many of them were found in the Bible. And I don't know how to square his behavior.

That's totally fine. But he gets into, we're in Bible country now. We're in Bible territory. You know, you shouldn't go there. You shouldn't go there. Yeah. And it just, and look, talk about principles of being a good person. Good. You're good.

It's just hard to take preaching about faith and religion from a person who's also talking about nine-month abortions. Yes. This is a difficult cell. I'm going to kill a baby after they're born. No, no, I don't think you find that in the Bible. You know? Very little material on that there. Yeah.

You just, and see, it's not even the whites that are at issue here on this. It would be the Bible-believing blacks in the black churches of South Carolina. They don't, that one of the big things there is anti-homosexual. I mean, I know they're Democrats. You're referring to the polls that show, what is it, 41% of African-American voters would not be comfortable with a gay president. Exactly right. I mean, and those are Democratic voters.

You've got to tone down the, the, uh, radical anti-homosexual attitude there in some of your voters. They're clearly bigoted against homosexuals. Nobody will say that. But that's what that group tends to believe. You're not going to win, Pete, by preaching Bible to them. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Like listening to this podcast?

If you're not a subscriber, become one now on iTunes. And while you're there, do us a favor. rate the show. Pat, I don't know. It's like there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a spirit in your walk. You're just, you seem to sprint in here today. I just, I just, I just watched the greatest debate in human history. Really?

Yeah. I love it. I love it last night. I mean, it's so painful to watch these debates, but when they went after each other, with a lot of the things that weed's saying about them. Isn't that amazing? You can't beat that. Do you remember the T-shirt?

You remember the T-shirt we made at Fox? that said, what if Glenn Beck is right? I think we should need a new t-shirt that just says Glenn Beck was right. Because they're now finally saying this. The mask has come off. Oh, completely. I mean, you had a Democrat, if you can call him that,

call the, quote, socialist what he really is, a communist. Yeah. On stage from the Democratic Party. And how much did he hate being called out for his three homes? Oh, my God. Gosh, so good. The wonderful Marxist in the room has a summer home. Pardon me for having a summer home.

No, we can't. Not with your rhetoric. We can't. A lot of people, a lot of people in Maine or New Hampshire, wherever. Vermont. Like a lot of people. Thousands have summer homes. Like a lot of people.

Listen to it. Here's the actual quote. Mayor Woodmer, would you like that work for a question was not just a world? What wonderful country we have. The best known socialists in the country. country happens to be a millionaire with three houses what i miss here well you'll miss that i work in washington house that's the first problem live in burlington house too that's good and like thousands of other vermontas i do have a summer camp forgive me for that where is your home which tax which tax haven

new york city thank you very much and i'd like to pay all my taxes wait he has a summer camp is that summer camp is that summer home it's a summer camp is that where he says capitalist to be reeducated Well, summer camp sounds more gritty. Yeah. It sounds like it's a little cabin, a little tiny cabin. Sounds like it's a K-O-A campground. That's right. I pull my RV up.

Of course, we've seen the home, and it's a nice home. It's not a camp at all. It's a home. There's no tent part of that house. Oh. You know. That's, I mean, because people, I think, rightly so said Bloomberg did pretty poor in this debate. But, I mean, he had some good moments. That's a good moment.

He did great. He did great. if it was a presidential general election. He's going after all the socialist Marxist in the Democratic Party. They're the only ones going out for these things. It seems to be the only one not embarrassed by capitalism. And look, there are a lot of Democratic voters who are not Bernie Sanders. You know, those people are going to, I think, look at some, the voters, not the candidates.

The voters are going to look at that and say, well, at least somebody's saying, you know, like maybe we should be able to keep our own. Do you remember when they asked, anybody here, you know, like socialism or, you know, want to stick up for capitalism? Nobody. It was only Klobuchar, right? Klobuchar was in. One, a razor hand for capitalism. One. Boy, there seemed to be a lot of talk about socialism and capitalism.

The audience last night, they weren't capitalists. No, do they stack that? No, these are just the. That's just amazing. Isn't it? It's amazing that so many... I mean, these are... This is just the audience.

So you would think, rank and file Democrats, right? Piling in to see this. And none of them applaud capitalism. None of them like capitalism. So let's play those. Could we play the... Cut 10, the weak applause for capitalism. I believe in capitalism.

But I think our... The goal of some... someone in government. Free people. President of the United States should be a check. One of them was Bloomberg, I think. I think so. It was like, I believe in capitalism.

Wow. Amy is a good thing you brought your husband, and Bloomberg was there. Now, listen to this. Bloomberg says, throwing out capitalism would get Trump reelected because communism doesn't work. Listen to this. Booze for capitalism. I can't think of a way. that would make it easier for Donald Trump to get it reelected

than listening to this conversation. It's ridiculous. We're not going to throw out capitalism. We tried that. Other countries tried that. It was called communism, and it just didn't work. Whoa. Whoa.

Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're stepping on my toes now. It worked great. You should have seen the chandeliers in the subways there in Russia. Whoa. Beautiful.

Again, I thought that was another pretty good moment for Louberg. I thought so too. It was. Not in the primary. I don't know. I think, again, he's not trying to get Bernie voters, right? He's trying to get Biden voters. He's trying to get people who are like Klobuchar or Buttigieg, whatever this moderate lane supposedly is. And I think like there's a good chunk of Democratic voters who want the big programs, who want gay marriage and all those sorts of things, but don't want capitalism destroyed.

There is that there is a contingency of Democratic voters who do that. None of them were there last night, but there is a contingency. Right. They did not show up for that. I mean, you still hope that people in middle America, right? Democrats in Nebraska still believe in the capitalist system. You would hope. Yeah, remember.

I'm not sure it's true, though. I'm not. I don't see a lot of evidence of it. They did that whole test of what would you feel comfortable voting for. And, you know, there was gay president, Muslim president. The least popular one on the entire thing was socialist. I mean, you know, again, I think it's still a very negative connotation. No, no, no.

That was 74%. we're okay with it, right? Is that not... No, not this poll we saw. It was 47% overall, but I believe 74% of Democrats would vote for a socialist.

Let's just take that on its face, right? So 26% are not comfortable voting for them at all. That's enough to lead the pack in the field right now, if you get those people. Now look, you still have to get some of the other people, too, to win the nomination at the end of the day. But with a divided field like that, he's the only one who seems brave enough to step out

And Klobuchar to some degree did this. But brave enough to stand up and just say, look, yeah, capitalism. It's hard to hide when he got $64 billion. Yes. He has to. It's difficult to hide, yeah. But even he has to apologize for his wealth by saying he's giving it all away. You aren't giving it all away?

What are you talking about? He signed the giving pledge, didn't he? Yeah, which is, you know, Gates did this. I mean, he's giving it. One thing he's bad at is giving it away, apparently. And by the way, he gives it away every time he buys it. new house. He is.

I mean, look, he's given a fortune to largely hardcore left-wing causes, including anti-gun laws that are far to the left of even where Bernie Sanders is. So this guy's no conservative. He's no moderate. He just has the ability to actually say, hey, the entire

economic system of this country shouldn't be torn down tomorrow. This is what's crazy. This is what's crazy. He, the Overton window, is in the Soviet Union to where Bloomberg looks like he's a moderate. Crazy. The guy is a totalitarian autocrat.

That's what he is. He's an absolute extremist on the Second Amendment and on climate change. Climate change. And have you noticed, has anybody noticed how everyone is now starting to talk about everything in the Constitution? Like, you know, we should reexamine that. I mean, you know, maybe we should have term limits. on the Supreme Court. You know, and we should get rid of the electoral college

and the Second Amendment doesn't work, and maybe we should look at the First Amendment. This is the longest-running Constitution in the history of all mankind, and it is produced the greatest period of freedom and wealth and health the world has ever seen, and suddenly everybody's talking about, maybe we should crack that thing open.

No No What do you say We return to the Constitution What do you say We start using it from time to time You know We used to make fun of

I apologize We used to make fun of those people That carried the pocket Constitution around with them We're like, oh He's got the bucket constitution Why read the Constitution? Yeah, okay buddy

Thank you for carrying The cup pocket constitution around Thank you, thank you They were right They were right we got so lost and now we're to the point to okay sorry I just got so much processing in my head right now and I'm so

I'm on the edge today is the day I'm do I look bloated do I look bloated I tell you yeah but that's been every day I just thought that was no normal it's been typical no I think I'm cycling here's the thing here's the thing how do you get people to buy in to Naziism, communism? How do you do it? Hitler said, you've got to create the biggest lies.

The bigger the lie, the more easy it is. And it's the small ones that are hard. That never made sense to me. well, let's see how many Americans right now especially the youth where it always comes from

especially the youth will say yes a man can have a baby yes a man can have his period no he can't if you're bleeding downstairs go see a doctor okay if you're a dude

and every month you got blood shooting out of you see a freaking doctor, something's wrong. But how many people are willing to say that? If they can get you to say something that you know absolutely, positively cannot ever happen, that a man cannot have a baby. You could put a baby in a man,

but he ain't pushing it through his pee-pee. I don't know how you keep it alive. Thank you for using the technical term. Thank you. I appreciate that. No man is menstruating today. And if you think so, you need to see a doctor as well. But how many of us have already accepted that lie? If they can get you to say that or to be afraid to say,

excuse me, dummy, no. If you are afraid to say that, they just got you to deny something you know absolutely, positively, scientifically, no questions asked. you are now either staying silent or you are agreeing with it. And that's without putting the rat cage on your head. Exactly right. Like in 1984.

What do you think they can't do? So easy. What lies will you tell in your life if you're willing to go there first? This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Hey, it's Glenn. And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray Unleashed. His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast. Hi, it's Glenn.

If you're a subscriber to the podcast, can you do us a favor and rate us on iTunes? If you're not a subscriber, become one today and listen on your own time. You can subscribe on iTunes. Thanks. Let me go right to Dr. Wilford Riley, professor at Kentucky State University, author of the book Taboo, and a guy who started the 1776 project. He's going to talk to us about today. doctor, welcome to the program.

Thanks for having me on. Sure. Now, normally, you would give me the professional courtesy of calling me doctor as well, seeing that I worked hard just as hard as you for my doctorate, but I... Are you also a doctor? I am a doctor. I'm a doctor of humanities, which means I can operate on people's feet, I think. Oral surgery?

Pardon me? I said on their minds, maybe. Well, I mean, I don't think we have to have this professional. squabble about it now. Doctor, I want to thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for what you're doing. And tell me why you got involved in trying to set the record straight from the 1619 project. Sure.

I will say I'm one of the founders of the 1776 project. But there are a large number of pretty elite people involved. Bob Woodson, really at the Woodson Center is the guy that brought our group together. I mean, you've got Glenn Lowry, legendary economist, Talibre Starks, the organizer, Carol Swain, John Sibley Butler, pretty impressive lineup of Coleman Hughes, the editor at Clouette. But the idea of the 1776 project, I mean, it is a nonpartisan, I'd say for most of us, center right at least, black led response to the New York Times 1619 project. And the 1619 project, your intro on this is pretty much dead on point. This is an idea. This is a series of editorial

that became a business initiative, then the USA began in slavery, and that really the thing that defines the country the most or the thing that makes the country unique is the fact that we had historical slavery here. And 1776 is a response to that. I mean, we point out, and an initiative on its own. So we point out a number of things. First of all, almost all societies had slavery until the 18th century. If everyone was guilty of evil and the USA today is.

unique. It was not the evil that made us unique. Right. So we point out some of the flaws in the 1619 narrative and there are many like the claim that the Revolutionary War was fought so that America could keep slaves. That's absolute nonsense. Crazy. Yeah, that's

one of the, Gordon Wood, who's the country's probably leading Revolutionary War historian has really taken that apart where he points out that that ignores everything that actually led to the war. Taxation without representation, French and Indian War debt. I mean, armed,

battles in the streets, the Boston Massacre. That's all pushed aside. Right. And it also dismisses the first original draft of the Declaration of Independence in Jefferson's own handwriting, where one of the last usurpation is a paragraph that is passionate against slavery. Where's that? Yeah. I mean, I think so a one-sided narrative is a bad narrative.

I mean, an obvious point is that for literally as long as we had slavery in the U.S., there was a powerful anti-slavery movement led by white and black people of goodwill from Frederick Douglas to John Brown, that one, we don't have slaves in the USA. We haven't had slaves since 1865. I've never had a slave or been one, and neither is anyone else who's currently alive who was born in this country. So these are the sort of things that we point out. And in contrast to the narrative of 1619, which is that racism still defines, the racism

of 300 years ago still defines exactly what America is today. We have a pretty simple thesis, which is the, that the United States of America is a flawed but very good society. It's simply not that difficult to make it here, and almost anyone can give in hard work and personal responsibility. People regularly come to the USA from countries where cars are a bit of a luxury item like Ethiopia and Vietnam and go on to outperform both black and white, native-born Americans. So there's absolutely no reason we should expect less of middle-class black people

or Appalachian white ones, for that matter. Then we do of recent immigrants from Botswana or the Philippines. that's crazy and that is a form of racism. So this is, go ahead, go ahead. Oh, no, we're responding. 1619, although it presents as purely academic, is to some extent a business initiative. I mean, they have a curriculum designed

with the Pulitzer Center and so on. So many of us, including me, have fairly elite business backgrounds. And we're responding across a range of avenues, I mean, curricula, media like this, so on down the line. I mean, the narrative can't go unchallenged that the USA is not the world's best country, but rather it's most evil.

That just doesn't make any sense. Well, they are, they are already, it's already creeping into our schools, and they're taking this at face value. I heard an ad for the podcast from the New York Times, and they said, you know, and there are some disagreements, but that's what we do best, is try to get people to talk and find the truth. No, you have taken a theory that is flawed from the beginning, and you've merchandised it, marketed it, and now it's being taught in.

some schools around the country. It is, it is, it's really dangerous to teach this kind of nonsense. And I, I can't thank you enough for, for actually following through and not just talking about it, but getting the curricula changed in schools to make sure we're teaching the truth. Yeah. And in the book you mentioned a taboo, the 10 facts you can't talk about recently came out with Regnery, this is something that I talk about.

And it's kind of the invades. at a level below what most people recognize of certain ideas into the American mainstream. So I frankly don't think most people know what their kids are learning in school. They don't. Yeah, this is very important. I would actually a statement for the parents out there, look at it. There are specific things like what sex education is being taught, what American history is being taught, that any thinking father or mother should ask their child school district about.

I'm in, yeah, I recently observed this with some of my own younger relatives, And it's pretty striking. At any rate, so the response to 1619, I mean, thank you for the compliment. One thing I would emphasize is that nobody, obviously not you, obviously not me, is arguing that slavery was good. Right. What we're saying, yeah, it's not, it's ridiculous that even need to be said. But what we're saying is a series of empirical points. One, American slavery was not historically unique.

Every other country, including the many civilized black nations of Africa, had a form of slavery that was as bad or worse until quite recently. Two, we don't think that slavery was the defining feature of the USA. We don't think it's what made America unique. With no disrespect for that southern culture, the South was a bit of a backwater before the Civil War, and that's why they lost. And a big reason for that was the reliance on this sort of feudal surf agriculture. And third, finally, we do not believe, we do not believe, that after 155 years of abolition,

and, by the way, 53 years of affirmative action, Asians or middle class or middle class blacks or Jewish Americans, Cubans, members of any other minority are still oppressed. That's a meaningless term. So it's important that this be responded to with a real curriculum that says, yes, the USA is not perfect because only God is perfect. But these are the advantages that we have over other societies. And to some extent, these are the advantages where they exist that they have over us. And this is why we exist as the country we are today.

And that doesn't trace back to racial quarrels 300 years ago most of the time. Do you address the fact that more slaves went to Brazil or that Mexico is given the status of beating the United States to abolishing slavery, but they said we'll stop it in a hundred years? I mean, that's not the abolishment of slavery. You know, we had to do it through civil war, but, you know, they could declare anything they want, but. That wasn't the abolishment of slavery. Yeah, we discuss all this. I mean, one point I want to make, and I don't mean to be glib here, but history sucked for almost everyone. If you're talking about Irishmen, Japanese, Americans, women couldn't vote until 1920.

So, yes, absolutely slavery existed in almost all societies. I'm not attempting to apologize for the white slave trade of blacks. No, no, no. But it's worth noting that there was also a black slave trade of whites, or at least a Morris one. I mean, the Barbary slave trade and inspired the verse shores of Tripoli and the Morse. Marine Corps, him. This went on from 1600 to 1800. The powerful Muslim nations of North Africa when they fought the white states of Southern Europe would take everyone they captured, quote, surgically modify them and make them into slaves and serfs. Serfdom itself, that idea that you're

a peasant, just pushing a sulky plow for most of your life. That existed in Russia and most of Europe, southern France, until 1866. So if you're going to say that people were unfree in America, you have to say also in context that people were unfree almost everywhere in the world. The West did not begin the institution of slavery, but I will say that though it took too long and it took hard fights, it is modern Western culture that eliminated slavery globally. No other culture, including the proud black and more states, many of my ancestors came from, even thought about doing this until the modern abolitionist movement began in England and the USA. So we have our sins, but we also have our virtues, and it's silly to focus only on our sins,

especially given that we live here. We're insulting our own society when we do so. So here's the thing that I think most Americans just want. I don't care if we hear about the bad things. I think we need to know about all of the bad things that America did, or we won't learn and change. So we have to learn about those things. But perspective, man, perspective.

and look at it in context of the day, look at what everyone else was doing, and understand that, you know, it's an ebb and flow. Sometimes we're better. Sometimes we're worse. I mean, at the time that we're fighting against communism and Nazism in the 1940s,

we're also throwing Japanese Americans into concentration camps. I mean, it's both. It's both. just like humans, we're both good and bad as individuals. And it's that constant battle between those two forces inside of us that shows in the end who you are. Were you generally moving forward or were you somebody that was fighting for evil the whole time? Yeah, I think that's well put. My old martial arts and say phrases it is,

every human being has a back end of front. And I think that's roughly accurate. When you're looking at the presentation of a man or of a human being, of course, you want a warts in all portrayal, which is a very famous description of an actual picture. But what I think you very often get from the activist left in the USA is an almost all warts view of the country and a warts free view of other rival societies. It's simply idiotic to spend hours and hours fulminating about the fact that the USA at one point had slavery and then go on to praise, say, China or the same. civilized nations of Africa or the Arab world. Much of the Arab world has slavery today. I know. There's more slaves today than there was during the entire Western slave trade,

combined, all of those years. So, doctor, tell me how the average person can access this information or can, you know, play a role at all in helping you with this battle. Sure. Yeah. And thanks for asking. I mean, we're all fairly easy to find. I'm Will Fred Riley, W-I-L-F-R-E-E-I-L-Y online, Facebook, Twitter. You've mentioned hate crime hoax and taboo, the books I've written. I'm one of many people.

Bob Woodson is the original initiator of the project. If you Google Woodson Center, they'll be more than glad to accept donations to 1776 or to their overall work. And, of course, we have a professional website that just went live, although we're still uploading headshots and so on. It's 1776 Unites. I believe that would be dot com because we are equipped to receive donations. but he Googles 1776 Unites. It'll be the first hit. Unites with an S with an S, Unites. 1776 Unites. Unites. U-N-I-T-E-S. That is correct.

And, yeah, we're more than glad to accept outreach again. Wilfred Riley. We've got Glenn Lowry on the project, John Sibley Butler, Carol Swain. I mean, many of these are names you will have heard. Coleman Hughes over at Quillette is handling a lot of media and social media. So we thought this is a fairly impressive group of people. Some of us had met for lunches before. as black people in the business community. And the idea was, well, we really need to respond to this because this is nonsense.

And it's going to increase racial tensions in a way that's not good for black people or just as importantly for our white countrymen. And I think we responded effectively. Thank you so much, doctor. I appreciate it. The 1776 project is 1776 unites.com. The Blaze Radio Network. On Demand.