The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Erika Kirk | 12/11/25

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

Glenn passionately speaks to the importance of your life having value, as his mission to save a Canadian woman's life has hit a major logistical roadblock. If we don't value life, people become expendable. Turning Point USA CEO Erika Kirk joins to discuss the investigation into Charlie's assassination and the importance of letting justice play out. Erika also dives into the final book Charlie worked on before his death, which was just released: "Stop in the Name of God: Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life." Glenn gets an encouraging update from a high-ranking administration official on how to get Jolene the surgery she needs.  Charlie's final book, "Stop in the Name of God: Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life" is available now at ⁠https://45books.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now let's get to work. You're listening to the best of the blend. Let me just say something. I had to check with somebody. It can't be true. Yesterday was the three-month anniversary of Charlie's assassination. And here's why I had to check. It's only been three months. It feels like it was a year ago almost, doesn't it? Is it just me?

So much has happened. So much has changed. And I have to tell you, I pray for the people. PUSA staff and I think about them every day because of the evil that they have been facing. It's just absolute evil. And I want to talk to Erica. I mean, she addressed that yesterday. We don't need to go into all of that because I really want to focus on Charlie's last message.

Welcome, Erica. Good morning. Sorry. No, it's all right. It's emotional. Good morning. It is, gosh, three months. And, you know, what you said yesterday, and we don't have to get into this. I don't want to spend a lot of time on it.

But it's evil what is happening. My wife and I, I honestly have thought about my wife so much because, God forbid, something ever happens to me, I don't know how you handle this, Eric. I don't know how to be dragged into, you know, you were involved in the death and all this crazy evil stuff. Oh, it's sick.

God bless you. Sick. God bless you. It is. My family means everything to me. Turning Point USA has always been in our life and has always been so good to Charlie and Charlie was good to his team. Everyone loved Charlie.

I get that. Everyone wants an answer to this evil. And sometimes the answer is very clear. Yeah. The truth is very clear. Are you worried? One question, and I will go into what the real answer is. You concerned about his assassin is in court today.

Are you concerned about being able to have a jury that's not been tainted? No, it's a real thing, Glenn. And you get this. A lot of people don't. And I think that we need to do a better job of educating our citizens about our court systems. A lot of people don't know how an actual trial plays out. I am very curious about how the United Healthcare case plays out. We are living in a day and age where social media can absolutely impact.

I feel it can. The reason I say that is because I don't want a tainted jury poll. I want justice for my husband. Anytime we have leads, anytime we hear anything, we send it to the authorities. We're not messing around. None of us are involved in my husband's murder. None of us. turning point USA myself any of these other crazy accusations none of us and and so i want

our team who's on this case to do what we hired them to do and take care of this and the unfortunate part is that everyone's acting as if the case in the trial is going to be tomorrow it's not Glenn you know this the case is not going to be I mean in full transparency we're looking at end of 26 beginning of 27 probably I mean this is not something that is going to be happening tomorrow say it again well it's I mean how do you get a jury with that much time and what's what's happening and quite honestly I don't need you to comment on this but I think mental illness is involved in in of this stuff that is online. I think it's really,

honestly, I feel bad it's mentally. I am not going to waste my time. I'm not gonna waste my time in combating people going toe to toe to toe, calling people names. I don't, I just, that's just not me. That's not how Charlie operated. There's no reason for me to go down a dark place like that. I'm so tired of the fracture.

drives me nuts is that Charlie, he has worked and provided and has blessed us with so much, like literally his book, he has blessed us with so much wisdom, so much, he's just such a good thought leader. He blessed us with laser focus on the mission, on saving this country. But instead, we're so focused on who did what, like, yes, we will figure out. all that out. Yes, this is a murder case. He was in, he did not die in a car crash. Yes, that will be handled. But my husband's legacy is not about his murder. My husband's legacy is what he left behind. And it's, it's, you know, I just did an hour. I threw out all the stuff that I was going to talk about, all of the problems in the country, all of, you know, the debt and the Venezuela and

China and all of this stuff. And I, I went in a different direction just about the means. of life because we're losing touch with life has meaning and value. And the same thing I think here, you know, we could talk about a million things, but, and I know this, I, you know, he writes about the Sabbath and honoring the Sabbath. And I have to tell you, if I didn't honor the Sabbath, I would have been dead a long time ago. When I was at the apex of work, I used to have to have two staffs, one in the day and one at night. Charlie was the same way. You just, there's not enough hours in the day to do everything.

And if I didn't shut down and just concentrate on God and my family for one day, total shutdown, I wouldn't have made it. And that's what Charlie talks about in this book. And I know you've talked to people, you know, you have, you've broadened this so, you know, you can get people who are not religious. But can you talk to people who are religious? Because I know a lot of people that are religious that do not honor. the Sabbath. Why is it so important? Right. Yes. And so it's interesting because we live in a day and

age where people are trying to separate the Old Testament from the New Testament. You cannot pick and choose portions of the Bible. They, they, the New Testament is fulfilled, like everything is being fulfilled. You can't separate any of that. The one thing Charlie would say is that, is that, it is one of the only commandments where if you don't participate in it, you are the one who is missing out on the blessing, not God. And for Charlie, just like you, you know how it is, long days, long hours, trying to balance it all. And yes, you can to some extent, but there is going to come a point where you are on the verge of burnout, then you have a decision to make. Are you going to blow through your adrenals, spike up all of your cortisol levels forever, and just try to wear it

as a badge of honor, like, asleep when I'm dead? Or are you going to do what you're doing and what Charlie is doing, where you literally are so intentional about your time down to the millisecond because you know that that's all you have. You don't know how long you'll be here, but you know that you have time, and you are in control of your time. And you are in control of how you use your time. And he was very good of knowing, okay, if I can just turn off my devices, turn off the noise, and honor the Lord, I can reset, I can reset my brain, I can give myself a second to not have to be attached to this and whatever mind virus is on the internet and the politics for that day, like give yourself a break. And the thing is, is that if you think

think that you can't and you're a Christian and you say, oh, well, I have this really important thing going on. You are proving right there that you're also breaking a commandment. Yeah. You're involving idols in your life. You're putting other, yes, gods before the one true God. And so obviously there are caveats here, meaning you're, if you're, you know, if you see someone drowning, you're not going to just watch them drown. You know, like, there's, there's caveats of, like, preserving life. There's common sense. I know common sense is not common, but let's just work with me here.

Right. So, can I ask you? You know, it's one of those things for Charlie was very intentional. I blew out my adrenal glands. And it was, it's not a fun thing. And I still was honoring the Sabbath. No. But it's just, it's just.

go, go, go, go, go. And part, I don't know, but there were times that Tanya and she was the key for me, we would get sloppy. And I would say, honey, I have got to fly here. I've got to

do this. This is, you know, and we get sloppy for a while. And then we would, you know, bring it back, et cetera, et cetera. Did you guys go through a period? I mean, were you just like, did you just nail this? Or do you have periods where you were a little sloppy? No.

And you're like, okay, got to correct it. No, we have, and that's the creative part. Charlie was never legalistic about this. He wasn't. If you can't get a full 24 hours in, work it in through your week, maybe you just sunset your device from 5 p.n. Up until the next morning, I mean, back in the day, when we didn't even have email, people knew they couldn't reach you.

You did have a home line. I think we should bring back house phones, make house phones great again. but I just feel that, you know, there's a way for you to be able to do this and not put pressure on yourself where you're letting yourself down. That's what I don't want to have happen is where you let yourself down. So if you say, you know what, I will be doing this on Wednesday and I'll be doing it for these specific amount of hours. Just be easy on yourself, give yourself some grace. Start off with an hour, start off with two. And then from there, you, you know, you grow. And you become more and more intentional. And then the people around you will honor that. And you're setting

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what do you need to hear you need to hear the warning but then you need to hear what to do about it what do we do about it I have Erica Kirk on today that's going to be an interesting interview I also have

the husband of a man up in Canada whose wife is dying needlessly and it is horrible. Let me let me

let me start here because I can't tell you what to do about the Fed I can't I can't tell you what to do about war other than be very aware know what's coming your way

but I will tell you this if we don't change our lives we don't make it I want to tell you about Jolene she's a woman who lives up in Canada she has hyper-parathyroidism. It's a problem with your parathyroid gland. It causes elevated calcium levels leading to bone damage,

you know, destruction of soft tissue, massive, unstoppable pain, nausea, vomiting. She has been going through this for years now. And here's the good news. There's surgery. You can remove that gland and it will fix the problem. The bad news is she lives in Canada. Socialized medicine.

That means there's no doctors able to perform the procedure for her. But the Canadian government had a solution for her. You can kill yourself. Now, she's already gone through three surgeries, but she still has to have this one specialized surgery that would fix this. And the problem is there's a doctor in another province that could help her, but she has to go to an endocrinologist in Saskatchewan to get a referral

so she can go see another doctor. And God only knows how long the wait list is in Canada. And she can't, because there's no endocrinologist in her province that is taking new patients, She can't get a recommendation. And the first stop on this nightmare train is, is there no doctor, no endocrinologist in Saskatchewan that says, I don't need her as a new patient.

I'll see her. I'll go to her house myself. The woman is in crippling pain. I'll go. I'll examine her. I'll write the recommendations. so she can get past this bureaucratic loophole. Now, I don't know anything about the Canadian health care system.

Maybe there are lots of doctors that want to do that, but the Canadian health care system won't allow that to happen. I don't know. But at what point do we become human again? At what point do we see one another again? And forget about what the damn government is telling you to do. you do the right thing. I heard a quote from Jolene that I want to share with you because as tragic as it is coming from

her, when I read it, all I could feel was the wave of how many people there are that feel the same way. She said, quote, my friends have stopped visiting me. I'm isolated I've been alone lying on the couch for eight years sick and curled up into a ball just pushing for the day to end I go to bed at six at night because I just can't stand to be awake anymore my staff talked to her husband yesterday

he's like I don't know what to do I don't think I would have made it this long let me ask you something is it just me or is my is my recollection accurate when I have heard from every newspaper pundit from the left, the CBC, the CBS, CNN, ABC, the Guardian, the London Times, the damn Indian times, the entire world says the same thing about America. And that is, we have an epidemic because of guns. we are slaughtering our own people because we just can't understand the power of guns.

And it's an epidemic. And America should be condemned for that because the numbers are staggering. The numbers of Americans that are dying every year because we won't regulate guns. Haven't I heard that or is that my mistake? Because I think I've heard that forever. So let me give you some stats here. This is not something new with me. I believe in life.

I know history. I know eugenics. I know the twisted, horrid stew that that came out of. I know that we planted that over into the hospitals and the medicine in Germany. And they made it even worse. And then we took it and pulled it up. And with Operation Paperclip, we put it right back. into our own society.

It's evil and it's all disguised as compassion. So let me give you some numbers here. Maid is now one of the top five leading deaths in Canada. Top five, doctors giving you medicine to kill you. Top five. In 2023 are the latest numbers, it accounted for 4.7% of all deaths. That's 2023.

numbers are still rolling in from 2024, and it shows that it's gone from 4.7 to now 5% of all deaths. 5% of all deaths. One in 20 people in Canada. One, count your friends. Think about you in the office and count to 20. One of those people, if you were in Canada, will be killed by the doctors in the state. intentionally in December of last year we learned that per capita

the number of Canadians who die by maid exceeds the number of U.S. gun deaths and they are just beginning to target the teens and kids and the mentally ill. Deaths per 100,000 in Canada by doctors 15,343 in a population of 40 million people. That's 37.9 deaths per 100,000 people.

In the U.S., where we have an epidemic of death because we just don't understand how dangerous guns are, we have 13.7 gun deaths per 100,000. 37.9 for every 100,000 in Canada with doctors, and 13.7 for every 100,000 on guns here in the United States. But you dare lecture us about gun deaths? I don't want to get into politics on this. To me, this is not about politics. This is about who we are. And I'm sorry, I know there's a border between us, but I grew up. I grew up on the border of Canada. Canadians are no different than we are. They have different policies.

They vote for different things. That doesn't make them different. They're the same as we are. All humans, all men are created equal. What set us apart as a nation, as a society, as a civilization is we value life. And we are losing that. And the rest of the West has already lost it. and if we don't water these roots, we will lose it and then there is no hope.

I don't understand this story. I don't understand this. I don't understand. The CBC just wrote a story yesterday. And let me see if I can find this stupid story. Health policy experts says American pundits focus on Saskatchewan woman's medical case distracts from the real issues. I can't five read the story three times. I can't find what the real issues are.

In that story from the CBC, I cannot find what they say the real issue is. The real issue is you have socialized medicine. You are now having to ration it because of elder population. That's happening to all civilization. But you also have the other problem is you have let all kinds of immigrants and illegals into your country, that you have no idea how big the population is. And numbers are numbers, gang. Numbers are numbers.

When you overwhelm the system, you cannot afford to have health care for everybody. So you lose the ability to be a lifeboat for anyone because you've had no rules on anything. It's just whatever goes. And the system is not built for that. And so let's be honest, what you're doing is rationing and you're liquidating some unfortunate people. So you have the ability to serve other people. That's what's happening. That's the real problem here.

And we're headed for that here in America. I can't find the point from the BBC. Whatever kind of foolish opportunism that Glenn Beck is demonstrating for his own purposes, we, I think, should try not to be distracted by that. There's still an issue here. There's still citizens of ours in real need. Yes, in real need of help, in real need of compassion, in real need of a doctor that doesn't say, I want to kill you.

In real need of a system that doesn't say, well, I'm sorry, I guess you can't get in to see that doctor because you need to have permission to go see another doctor across an imaginary line. Oh, it's a different, oh, I'm sorry, it's a different province. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I thought it was all Canada. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Not when it comes to medicine. No, you can drive across that. You can do that. You can do all kinds of stuff going on. But getting a doctor? No, no, no, no. You have to have special permission to do that. You know what the CBC is now reporting? Because I was talking about this woman.

They have now gone in, the Canadians, and instead of offering help, what they've done is they, said, wait a minute, she only has two of three doctors that have given her permission to kill herself. And of course, this is a very rigorous system. I mean, you know, it's modeled after, literally modeled after the Germans who had three doctors. Very rigorous system. We don't just kill anybody. We want you to know medicine. The scariest people in World War II were not wearing black coats. They were wearing white coats. Now, now, the medical, uh, uh, apparatus bureaucracy in Canada is now saying, oh, well, she may not be able to kill herself January 7th. They're not offering, oh, well, maybe, okay, this has been pointing out,

this is really bad. Maybe, maybe we can help her get, you know, just to see another doctor. maybe we can get an endocrinologist to just see her to give her the just the piece of paper that says she can go see another doctor elsewhere. No, no, instead, she is absolutely hopeless, hopeless. Her only hope has been, which she doesn't like, which she doesn't want, but her only hope has been, if I can't get any help, at least I can kill myself. at least they will help me die because I can't live this way anymore. And the society no longer has any value for life.

There's no meaning to life. There's no meaning for you to continue to go on if you don't like it, if you're uncomfortable, or if you're in excruciating pain. There's no one in the society that says your life still has value. So now, I guess I'm to blame for this. by bringing this up, now she may not even have that. Now the bureaucracy says, oh, well, she needs to see at least one other doctor

because we have rigorous standards here. Is that the point? CBC, is that the point you were supposed to pay attention to you, have rigorous standards before you kill your own citizens? You're listening to the best of Glenn Beck. Need a little more? Check out the full show podcasts anywhere you download podcasts. So while we were in break here just moments ago, Glenn received a phone call from, I don't know that we can get into the details.

Maybe he can tell you when he gets back on here in a second of who it was, but it was called a high-level administration official who is trying desperately to help with the problem we've been talking about this hour. if you're just tuning in, we're talking about a Canadian woman who was, has been suffering for eight years now from a terrible, terrible disease and an incredible pain and suffering. She tried to get surgery for a parathyroid condition that would largely solve, at least, I mean, you get the sense that there's still going to be issues she's dealing with, but largely solve the main issues associated with the parathyroid. and tried to go to get a surgery done in Canada, was unable to do so.

There was no surgeon able to do the surgery in her province. She then tried to get a referral, I guess this is the way the Canadian system works, where they have a referral to allow her to go to a different province to get this surgery where maybe there is a surgeon that could do it. She needs to go to her endocrine. to get that referral. And when she attempted to do so,

she was unfortunately unable to get in for any referral because all the possible endocrinologist that could do this, we're not taking new patients. That's where we are right now. She then, at a hopeless point in her life, applied for Maid, which is essentially

the Canadian euthanasia program. So instead of getting the surgery that she needs and maybe recovering, she is faced with potentially ending her life. Glenn is back now. What can you tell us about what just happened, Glenn? I can't tell you. I don't

have permission to say but very high level administrative official just called and said let's save her life we'll get it done we'll get it done

some phone calls some phone calls have to be made but he said I know they'll respond to me and we'll just get it done And I said, you know, whatever you need, whatever you need. And he said, here's what I need.

Let's save her life. Not done yet. Pray. Pray. I love this audience. I just love this audience. He said, I can't believe how many people have been talking to me about this in the last 12 hours. He said, I'm being brought up to speed on everything.

He said, I think I understand everything. He said, this surgery, he said, it is complex from what he understands. And he said, but it's like, he said, have death be that. It's like I've torn my muscles and they're really, really bad. Kill me. he said this is a fixable thing. It's like death being the alternative is obscene. So anyway.

Yeah. Can I just say, I was just about to say the same thing. I love this audience. It is amazing how powerful you are. If you're on the Glenn Beck staff, you know that if you get a number that says unknown, or if it's a DC area code, you just pick it up

because you never know and we are on the air and I get one of those numbers I go sprinting out and then, yeah, I can't say who it was but I was like, oh, okay and then that's how fast

you made that happen. I mean, wow. It's remarkable. It's remarkable. Yeah, you think about how many times this has happened over the years where, you know,

the audience has stepped up and taken interest in something like this. sometimes a small scale of one person, sometimes tens of thousands. And when, when that happens, it's almost like you know, I don't know, I mean, who knows? God's in charge of these things, not us, but it's like, it seems like once, once this audience gets engaged, you know the problem's going to be solved. I don't know how. I don't know if, you know, you never know how. You never know how it's going to happen, but we've seen it so many times. It's just incredible. People are amazing. I don't think that, you know, we're not out of the woods, you know, because the actual

players have to be consulted, but I know the person that is consulting with him today, and and he's very confident that he can get that done. But I don't know what the cost is going to be. How much, I mean, are they going to, are they going to do it pro bono? Are they going to still charge? I don't know what this cost. I don't, you know, we may need some help.

I will, I'll do everything I can. I mean, we'll get her down here. We'll put her up. We'll do all that. I don't know what that surgery costs. but I know the doctors, some doctors, I don't know about the ones that he's talking about, but other doctors have volunteered to do the surgery.

But apparently it is complex. He said more complex than normal. He said, but totally doable. He said it's totally doable. So I can't wait if that comes. We'll let you know later today or tomorrow. And we find out tomorrow, I want to call her husband back tomorrow.

Give the good news. What a job. What a great job. Thank you for listening.