The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guest: Hayden Dublois | 8/3/21

Episode Date: August 3, 2021

Pat Gray joins to discuss the absurdity of Australia’s response to the pandemic. The mayor of Washington, D.C., implemented a new mask mandate, and immediately violated it. Is America turning its ba...ck on Afghanistan? Research analyst Hayden Dublois walks Glenn through what’s actually in Biden’s new infrastructure bill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the podcast. Today, it's a big show. We go over what's in this infrastructure bill a lot. You're not going to want to miss out on the terrible details of the trillions of dollars we're spending. We also have what's going on in Afghanistan as we're pulling out. No surprise. The Taliban is coming in and brutalizing the population. We will go into that today.
Starting point is 00:00:26 We also will talk about the Andrew Cuomo. allegations. The big report has come out now and is we have it. We're going to go through some of the accusations in there. Long story short, even the Democratic Attorney General is saying he harassed women around the office. We'll get into the details there as well. Should remind you, of course, Andrew Cuomo is awful.com. You can go there and say the unquestionable truth about Andrew Cuomo. That is available to you. We'll also be covering this indeed. going through the entire report on Studez America tonight. And look, we've been all over this story with Cuomo since the very beginning,
Starting point is 00:01:07 going back over a year now. And we are going to make sure that each piece of this sees the light of day. The show is available, of course, right here on podcast. You can subscribe for free. Follow the show. And rate and review the show, if you don't mind. That would be fantastic. Also available on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Same for, of course, this wonderful radio program. We'll be back to talk about this even more depth tomorrow. Thanks so much for tuning in. Here's the podcast. You're listening to. From the incredibly popular podcast. What's Pat's? I was thinking about another podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:00 What's the name of Pat's podcast? Pat Gray Unleashed. You know, from that podcast, here is Mr. Pat Gray. Hello, Pat. That was funny. It was funny. Yeah, I laughed inside. I'm laughing.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Yeah, you're laughing. Yeah. Inside. So what do you have on your plate today? Did you, have you seen what's going on in Australia? Yeah. Yeah. You mean with the military showing up?
Starting point is 00:02:24 Yeah. Yeah. The lockdowns, the military going door to door. Look at this. I think we have the video of the people in the park. There's a guy doing yoga in the park out by himself, but he didn't have a mask on. So police come and come. cuff him behind his back and then drag him off and arrest him.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Can we play that? It's... Maybe we don't have it. No, it don't have it. Oh, is it in your pile of stuff? It was in my pile of crap, yeah. But do you know? Do you know how severe their situation is with the COVID-19 problem?
Starting point is 00:03:04 It's really bad. It's really bad. It's no wonder they've gone off the deep end. Well, they're not vaccinating. They're not vaccinating at all. Yeah, and thus 924 people have died since this began. On the whole continent. Whole continent.
Starting point is 00:03:21 25 million people, 924 people. That is outrageous. That's outrageous. What are they doing? It's like, I mean, is there anybody left? Yeah, there's only 24 million, you know, 900 and something of us left. So, so, you know, the good news is, is that I think the people of Australia are starting to feel the tyranny here,
Starting point is 00:03:46 and they don't like it at all. And so they'll grab their guns and they'll start going. Oh, wait. Oh, hold it just a second. They turned in all their guns. Yeah, they did. Darn it. Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Turn it, darn it, darn it, darn it. Well, you know, and to me, this is just a precursor of what could be in store for everybody. I mean, this is a free country. This is a country that appreciates the audience. They don't have guns. Yeah. Let's just, let's just, let's just, let's just, Remember that. These are countries that don't have guns.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Both Australia and the UK. Yeah. Well, they did a gun buyback program. Yeah, I bet with, I bet they wish they had that money and could give it back and get their gun right now. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't think that they're necessarily going to go into an armed revolution right now. You know, what does it take? Seriously, I mean, yes, yes, yes, yes. But I mean, what does it take?
Starting point is 00:04:37 Your country is being destroyed. it's 900 people and now your own your own citizens in the military are being told to keep you inside at all cost it's this is this insanity well to be fair don't do yoga
Starting point is 00:04:56 yoga by yourself without a mask you can't that's just silly that's like that kid remember that guy in Colorado that was was playing baseball with his kid way away from everybody else yeah and they were like 20 feet away
Starting point is 00:05:08 good thing we put him in jail Yeah, right. I hope he's not out. Right. The bastard. I hope he didn't get out. I hope they beat him senseless before they put him behind bars to. Well, it's about time.
Starting point is 00:05:18 We start beating people senseless, isn't it? Sure is. Like, well, you mentioned this earlier, Glenn. And like, in theory, right, you have a continent of your own, right? It's an island, essentially. You're not letting anybody come. You're not letting anyone in. You're not letting anyone out.
Starting point is 00:05:34 You can, I guess, crack down enough to limit cases and limit the spread of the virus. Like, there is. some level of lockdown you can do this with. However, on the other side of that, there has to be a strategy for this to end. And what Australia has done is lockdown super hard anytime they see any sign of the virus. So they've been able to keep everything super low.
Starting point is 00:05:54 And I don't mean lockdown US style lockdown where we all still kind of go do our thing and it's annoying. It's open. Home Depot is open. Like home depot is open at Walmart. Like they shut down hard. Like you can't walk your dog.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And so they've done all that. and then they have 12% of their population vaccinated. So, like, what is the other side of this? Like, it's one thing if you want to lock down until, in theory, you get everybody vaccinated, which, again, is a problem in another direction. But, like, what's, eventually, you're going to have to let your people go out. And they're not going to have any immunity. And they're going to have any immunity.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And they're going to get it. You can't keep people inside all the time. No. This is, you know what this is, is, you know, this is the extreme example of, well, you can stop wearing masks and we can go as soon as we get a vaccine. Well, as soon as it calms down, we don't have the hospitals overrun. Then it's, well, when we get the vaccine. Well, the vaccine's not good enough.
Starting point is 00:06:51 They just cut right to the end. They're just like, we're never letting people out. At least we're being honest. And it is weird coming from Australia because we think of them as having similar sensibilities as us. I mean, yes. Instead, it's a penal colony again. I mean honestly you have those you have spiders that size I'm staying in anyway
Starting point is 00:07:14 it's true there's no reason to go outside in Australia and I want a gun because I would shoot those spiders have you seen them they're like they're what is it three feet they're like three feet across that's not even a spider that's oh yeah I've never seen a spider three feet across oh I'll show you a picture of one it was uh oh no I'll show you a picture one I got a find it when we're off air. But I've got a picture of one. Wow. I could not believe it.
Starting point is 00:07:43 They were telling me when I went to Australia. They were like, oh, yeah, you see the one that was just found in a barn? I'm like, no. They're like, yeah, there's this barn that was there. And, you know, these old people owned it. And when a new buyers came in, they opened up the door and they saw a spider web, those three feet across. What?
Starting point is 00:08:01 No way. The spider web is three feet across. No, the spider. Wow. That's a big spider They put it like in a zoo or something Because they're like Hey there's a big spider
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yeah Let's kill it No wonder the entire country was on fire That was probably the smart thing to do You see a spider like that You'd like the content on fire You do You're like no thank you
Starting point is 00:08:24 No thank you So we have We have the mayor of Washington DC I don't know if you've You've seen Muriel browser Bowser, what she's done. But she had an indoor mask mandate.
Starting point is 00:08:40 She announced it citywide. I love this. Indoor mask mandate Thursday. And it's effective Saturday at 5pm, which was convenient for her because she threw herself a celebrity-studded birthday party on Friday night. It's so good. Nobody wore the masks. Then she officiated on Saturday morning a masculine.
Starting point is 00:09:05 outdoor wedding in Washington. And then apparently a maskless indoor reception. Now, the birthday party was not a surprise. So she knew that was happening. But the mask mandate wasn't in. But neither was the wedding. She knew about the
Starting point is 00:09:21 wedding, too. She's not just violating. She is knowingly putting into action a mask mandate that she intended to violate. And again, her activity at an outdoor wedding is completely appropriate even in the COVID era.
Starting point is 00:09:42 There's no reason to believe there's any problem with that. However, she's the one who implemented the rule. And it was also the reception was inside. Yeah. And reception was inside. Inside. So which is it? She either wants to spread the COVID-19 through unmasked parties and she's like, I'm going to do it myself.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Right. Or she believes that vaccinated people are safe and can gather together. And she's right. Right. Obviously. That's what it is. This is what's so silly about it is like a lot of times we complain about these celebrities doing these things and politicians.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And usually what they're doing is something that's actually sensible. It's fine, but it's against their own rules. And did you see? Okay, so it was a reporter, a journalist from the Washington examiner that took the photograph of her inside without a mask. Yeah. Right? So the Washingtonian later in the day had this update.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Update. The Washington Examiner Writer, who published photos of Mayor Bowser maskless at a wedding over the weekend, was not invited to the wedding. Oh, no. Are you kidding? So I guess it negates the photo. It does.
Starting point is 00:10:54 If you crash a wedding, it negates all information. It's those journalistic standards, man. They don't ever do stuff like that. Right. It's like the police not having a warrant. None of the evidence counts. Right. Because you've got to toss it completely out of your mind.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Don't worry about the fact that Muriel Bowser was maskless inside. It doesn't matter because the person shouldn't have been there anyway to take the photo. It's in the wedding crash your clause of the Constitution. It is. It is. It's right there in plain sight. Three C, I think. Well, not plain sight.
Starting point is 00:11:25 You have to do the lemon rub and then. Right. And then you have the Ben Franklin gases. The blow dryer. That's really good. One other thing. the American Federation of Teachers, the Union President, Randy Weingarten,
Starting point is 00:11:38 says the kids have got to mask up this fall. Good. And they said, you know, look, I'm not going to promise that schools are going to reopen. But. Got to be kidding me. No, no, no. We're good.
Starting point is 00:11:53 There's a quote. We're going to try. Oh, wow. So I don't know. I don't know. There is no try. I don't know what, what exactly they have to rehearse or try to, I mean, you get into your car, you turn the key,
Starting point is 00:12:07 you drive to the school, you use your key to get into the school, you open up the door, you turn on the lights, you stand there at the chalkboard and you go, hi kids, I'm going to teach something. It's not that hard. They've been doing it for years, but maybe they have forgotten in the last year and a half. I can't believe. They are saying they're making a big deal out of the safety for our kids. They have to be masked up or the teachers are not coming in.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Today, I saw an MSNBC a long story about the police officers that are committing suicide. Do you know there are six police officers that committed suicide after January 6? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they committed suicide. And MSNBC is very upset about the cops. Well, they love the police, you know. They do. They love the police. How supportive they've been.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And this just caused them so much stress. Now, as I'm watching it, I'm screaming at the TV. exactly what's oh you love the police now you're worried about their mental health now okay and they're very worried about suicide with these police officers how about the epidemic of suicide for our kids our kids are going through absolute hell suicide rate is up 30% because of the the schools and the masks and the you know social distancing and And they don't give a flying crap. You never hear about their mental health.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You never really hear, unless you're reading something from conservatives, about how the test scores, what this is doing to them, not only socially but academically, you never hear a peep about that. Why is it we still don't know anything? We have nothing. No one is talking about if you've had it, you have God's vaccine. This has been something we have always done. This is why you give a vaccine because it tricks your body into thinking you've had it. And so you make natural antibodies for it. But how come those of us who have natural antibodies, we are like, we're spreading the plague.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Why? Why? For the first time, is that not how the body works? Is that not how this vaccine works? Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, long term, there's a longer conversation on that. But you're right, we have not focused on that enough. At all. Enough.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Yeah. At all. I haven't heard anybody say. Yeah. They don't count it as if it's anything. Correct. Right. When you talk about people who are vaccinated, they don't add in the people who have had.
Starting point is 00:14:47 It's what herd mentality. Herd immunity is about. Herd immunity. Yeah. You'll notice we're not talking about herd immunity anymore because that requires. requires you to have enough people either vaccinated or sick to get to a certain point to where the society has enough antibodies to pretty much handle it. In a completely unrelated story, I know this has nothing to do with what you're talking
Starting point is 00:15:10 about right now, but they just announced it Pfizer's going to make $33.5 billion from this. It'll be the biggest selling drug of all time by far. And I know that doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about. There's no reason that you would be pushing. This drug for monetary purposes. That would be so cynical to believe. I mean, I would note. I would note.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Johnson and Johnson is selling theirs at cost. So if you are concerned of profit motivation, you could always get it from that instead. Johnson and Johnson is selling it at cost because the White House came out and said, I don't know, might kill you. Whoops. No, it doesn't. They announced. They did it in 2020.
Starting point is 00:15:49 They made this decision before the vaccine is available. It could give you leprosy. I'm just saying leprosy, you'll be in a wheel. chair and your body will be falling out of the wheel. Or a blood clot could shoot straight to your brain and kill you instantly. Don't worry about it, though. Oops. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:16:04 All wrong about that one. Sorry. All right. I hate you. I know you do. You're rolling your eyes like we're spreading misinformation or something. It's a type. It's leprosy.
Starting point is 00:16:17 You get leprosy. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Today I want to talk. I want to talk to you a little bit about the good news coming out of Afghanistan, and I know the press is all over this because they're so eager to report all of the bad things in an ongoing war. And so that's why the coverage is practically nonstop about how badly things are going in Afghanistan. First of all, there are thousands of people that are fleeing Afghanistan. and going over to Pakistan, all the people that were living in Pakistan until we took over
Starting point is 00:17:10 and, you know, there was a chance that the Taliban would be out. They moved back into Afghanistan. They're now moving back out of Afghanistan. But the real people I want to talk about are the people that helped us, the translators, the people who believed that we would be there for them. Yeah, we haven't really made a plan for them, you know. There's about, I don't know, about 10,000 of these people. and they helped us for years and years and years.
Starting point is 00:17:38 But I mean, should we have a plan to help them, Stu? Why plan when you can just do it on the fly as the Taliban is just taking district after district? It's like one of those shows where they like re-they redo the home, like a home renovation show. And every episode's like, oh my gosh, they're around the corner. Should we put up these last curtains? You know what I mean? And it's like this really, it's always a close call. And like, why did you just tell them, like, to stay out of there for another extra hour?
Starting point is 00:18:07 There's no real reason for the drama here. Right. That's kind of what's happening in Afghanistan right now. Except it's not made for TV. No. This is just, yeah. It's real. Yeah, the people who are saying that are the people who helped us.
Starting point is 00:18:19 They're like, oh my gosh, the Taliban's right around the corner. Help! Yeah, they're saying now 330,000 Afghans have been displaced already. Many of them leaving the country once again, realizing that this is just going to happen. again, you know. And that's terrible enough. In addition, though, the people who actually helped us during the battle, translators and all sorts of different types of people who've helped the U.S. military, you're going to be
Starting point is 00:18:49 stunned to hear this. If the Taliban gets controlled, they're all going to be murdered. They're just going to be murdered because they shouldn't have been helping in the Taliban's view, the American effort. So we have some, so there's a group of, they think about 20, people who are in this category. And we have a couple thousand that we've actually been able to help the, and get out of the country.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Some of them have come to the United States. People, the most reliably vetted of those have come. So some of this has happened. They think some of the 20,000 maybe are not, really shouldn't qualify for this program, a special immigrant visa type of situation where they can be moved not only either to the United States or.
Starting point is 00:19:34 to a third country where we have maybe a base or something. But again, get them out of the way of the Taliban and the knives they're swinging. And so they are now moving some of them to third countries and various places where they can try to do this.
Starting point is 00:19:50 But there does not seem to be a plan for, as you point out, about 10,000 of these guys that are likely to get killed the second. We used them. You know, let's move on. It does seem to be the philosophy. I think it is. of the United States in way too many cases. Let me tell you a story about a guy named Raul Wallenberg.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I've talked about him before, and he is one of my favorite 20th century heroes. And most people don't know who Raul Wallenberg is. A lady who wrote a book on Raul Wallenberg over in Sweden. And it is the, it's like what's his name's Bonhofer book. It is the book on Raul Wollenberg. Wallenberg and she came over and she had been doing interviews here in the United States. She did a, you know, good morning America and everything else. She came to do an interview with me and she almost welled up halfway through the interview. And she said, I cannot believe it. You're the only
Starting point is 00:20:48 American, at least as a broadcaster that I have talked to that even knows who he is. And I'm like, he's a hero of mine. He's an absolute hero. So he would go on, she'd go on and do the interviews on. And they had no idea who this guy was. Good morning, America. They have no idea. This is an American hero in many ways that we abandoned just like we did with the Taliban right now. And we're not changing our spots. If, you know, and if Americans knew about this, we would say, let's get those who helped us to safety.
Starting point is 00:21:23 But we're getting the blame for it because of our weasels in the government. So let me tell you about Raul Wollenberg. It's 1940s, and he's in Sweden. He is the heir to a large fortune, and they are very high up on the ladder. Remember, the Nazis are involved in Sweden, and so everybody's kind of nervous. The United States comes to Rao Wallenberg off the, you know, through the OSS and says, Hey, we need you to go over to, I think it was, I think it was Prague. and just watch what the Nazis are doing.
Starting point is 00:22:03 We understand that they are rounding up Jews and we need to know if that's true. He says, I don't know. And they said, just ask the king if you can be appointed to the embassy and then just spy for us. He said, okay. Well, he got over there and he saw that not only was it true, that it was in enormous numbers, that every Jew was being rounded up. he couldn't abide by it. He would write letters to us.
Starting point is 00:22:35 He'd write letters to the king. And the king was like, I can't do anything. The Nazis are right here. And so Raul Wallenberg decided he was going to do something. And he started issuing what's called a Schutz pass. My wife gave one to me for Christmas years ago. And she said, she took it back. She gave me the present.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And then she took it back right away. And she said, I'll give it to you tomorrow. And I said, why? and she said, because you're going to spend all day crying. And I said, I'm not. It's Christmas. Everything's fine. And she said, oh, I know you.
Starting point is 00:23:05 You're going to cry. And I'm like, I'm not going to cry. I opened it. I cried all day. It is such a remarkable piece of paper, a monument to what one man can do. He would issue these Schutz passes, which means that whoever gets this paper, and their name is filled out on it, you get that paper. you are now under the protection of the king of Sweden.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And so Raul Wallenberg was claiming people as his. So if you were stopped for papers, you didn't have to wear a yellow star anymore because you were now under the protection of the king of Sweden. Well, the king of Sweden was getting all kinds of heat for this. And I mean he issued thousands of them. He would type them all up and then he would go to the trains that were going to the death camps.
Starting point is 00:23:56 And he would stuff them in between, the slats of the train. And then he would stand on top of the train next to the coal car and he'd say, stop! You have the wrong people. These are my people. And the train would unload and they would check the papers and anyone who had a Schutz pass was free. He saved thousands of people. Towards the end of the war, the Russians were coming in.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And some of his people at the embassy said, Raoul, you got to go. You got to go right now. Now we know now in history, Stalin hated this guy. Knew what he was doing and hated him. And Raul said, no, there's too many more I can save. He was last seen running to the Russian troops, the first brigade that came in.
Starting point is 00:25:00 and that's the last we ever saw of him. I have a cigarette case from one of the guys in that garrison that came in that he was running to. And it's really quite worthless unless you know that those are the soldiers that he ran to saying they can't be as bad as the Germans. Because in Russian on the front of the case it says, let's kill all the Jews and go home. he was taken, there's a few endings to the story, he was taken and shot and executed there immediately, unlikely, because Stalin is said to have wanted to talk to him. So the next version of the ending of his life was that he went, he was interrogated and, you know, by Stalin and his people. And he died in a concentration camp in like 1948. I think the worst outcome is that he went to a hard labor camp in the Soviet Union and died in 1972.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Here's the reason why I tell you this story. Here's a guy we asked to help. Here's a guy that every single one of us should know his name. His name is Raul Wallenberg. He is a hero in Sweden. There are statues to him. in Sweden. There should be statues of him here because we asked him to do it. And then at the end of the war, when we had clout with Stalin, we didn't even ask where he was. We didn't ask to exchange.
Starting point is 00:26:48 We did nothing to save his life. No matter how many times the Swedes and everybody else asked the United States, will you please ask them? We never ask. We never ask. about him until 1976. We're doing the same thing. And it is not the people of the United States. It's an out-of-control large government that doesn't always put the same priorities on things that we might. We're doing it again now in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:27:38 10,000 people that helped us. They are now living in fear. in hiding because the Taliban will take over and we knew this you and I we all knew
Starting point is 00:27:52 that the Taliban would come back that's why we should have gone in killed Osama bin Laden and left instead we spent 20 years and how much treasure
Starting point is 00:28:06 and how much American blood in that place and what we all knew would happen has happened the bad guys just waited us out.
Starting point is 00:28:21 We cannot build countries. We cannot pass on freedom. Hell, we don't even want it ourselves, it seems. People have to want it. And they have to be willing to stand up for it themselves. This group of people did. And we are letting them die. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Oh, this is great. This is, man, I can't tell you how excited I am that our roads and bridges and infrastructure are finally going to be fixed. All fixed? Are you going to be? Finally. I mean, geez, we've been paying for this infrastructure. Every president has been like, I've got to fix the infrastructure. And we give them the money and then we don't ever hear about the infrastructure except that we have to do more.
Starting point is 00:29:39 So thank goodness this is, that infrastructure bill is a god. or not the Senior Research Analyst Foundation for Government Accountability. Hayden DuBlois is with us now. I asked Hayden to come on because this is 2,700 pages long, and it takes a team to go through it. So what's in it, Hayden? Sure. Thanks for having me on, Glenn.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Well, what's in it is important to recognize that only about 20% of the new funding in this bill goes towards what you and I and millions of Americans think about as traditionally infrastructure. That is, our roads and our bridges. Is that going to be enough to fix them? Gosh. I don't know, but what I can say is this is that this is really tied to a larger package of what the Democrats are trying to push through.
Starting point is 00:30:31 That is nearly $5 trillion in new government spending on extensions of welfare, step towards the Green New Deal, and other pet products. I mean, that's really what's at issue here is. And we can't excuse some small portion of legitimate infrastructure spending when it's way overbalanced by the priorities of the far left in Congress. Well, $20 billion goes to Amtrak. I don't know why we keep bailing Amtrak out, but we do. Amtrak and climate change and related green efforts. What they're trying to do is to try to get us to go to electricity.
Starting point is 00:31:11 But I don't understand this. Electricity. It doesn't come from the magic box in the wall. It's most likely made by coal. Oh, you're absolutely right. We've seen, I mean, they've just got tons and tons of investments in here that they're trying to create a new clean energy office and Department of Energy, EV charging. They've got a $250 million grant for low emission ferries, which everyone knows is such a big problem of, you know, ferries.
Starting point is 00:31:43 we really need to do something. Oh, I know. They're horrible. Yeah. But, I mean, you dive a little bit deeper into this. I mean, it's 2,700 pages. I tried to read what I could. But case and point example, page 167, it says, and I quote, that they're going to enable and
Starting point is 00:31:59 encourage children, including those with disabilities, to walk and bicycle to school, end quote. I mean, that's what they're doing. They're worried about kids' carbon emissions when they're going to school. I mean, what's next? Are they going to put carbon footprint, you know, ankle monitors to make sure these kids are, you know, under the quota of their carbon footprint? I mean, it's just out of control. Does it say how they're going to do that?
Starting point is 00:32:23 Well, they're trying to create a new program. They're saying it's all about incentivizing, you know, healthy lifestyles and making sure that, you know, kids are getting the physical exercise. But it's really under the guise of part of the climate. here that we're talking about. But how are they going to do that? I mean, even with disabilities, get them to walk to school. Are they going to say, we're not picking anybody up inside of this radius, or what? Well, you know, I think, I think a lot of it is going to be with pressuring a lot of these areas with grants to, you know, encourage what I think are bad incentives for kids to do. I mean, we see this throughout the bill. I mean, on the topic of energy, they've got, they've got another study in there about the,
Starting point is 00:33:10 effects of closing the Keystone XL pipeline, for example, without restarting any big construction. We don't need another study. We know the effects of canceling the construction of this. We don't need a government report, another one telling us that it's a bad idea. And this is what this bill is filled with. It's filled with just things we already know or things we don't need instead of prioritizing the roads and bridges and, you know, potholes that Americans really think of when they think about infrastructure. I was talking to Mike Lee yesterday. about this. And he said one of the problems that he has with it is it takes over a lot of the things that belong to the states and to the local municipalities. He's absolutely right. Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:33:56 listened to that interview and he made a great point that, you know, while people are going to say, well, it's good because they've got interstate highway funding and that should be done by the feds. There's a lot in here that is like rural surface transportation grants. That shouldn't be coming out of a centrally planned federal office, you know, that's written up by some senators, states can administer that much more efficiently than the federal government can. The entire, you know, precipice and foundation of this bill is that infrastructure spending is best when it's centrally planned, which we know isn't true. And then when you realize and recognize how that's all tied in to the other trillions or, yeah, trillions of dollars of other priorities that are completely unrelated to
Starting point is 00:34:40 infrastructure like expanding welfare and expanding the child care tax credit and all of that. I mean, we're really stretching the definition of interest structure to a point it's never been at. There are also, there are provisions in there for Bitcoin and cryptocurrency to where if you sell your cryptocurrency, you'll be called a broker and then all brokers have to report all activities to the IRS, right? Yeah, which is, Senator Toomey issued a statement on this, actually, and he said it's virtually impossible to implement because you don't have the required information, you know, the 1099s to do that.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And a lot of the blockchain companies are saying that's a, it's a ridiculous provision because they're doing that to try to raise revenue through this. But they're saying that the revenue estimates are way off. Toomey called this a hastily designed tax on blockchain. He's absolutely right. This is just, you know, stifling yet another, you know, innovation in the cryptocurrency sphere that we don't need and really isn't going to work and isn't going to pay for what this bill tries to pay for. So they say that it's trying to, you know, help raise the funds to pay for this, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:35:57 but I disagree with you. I don't think it is to do that. I think it's to cripple cryptocurrency because they know what they're doing to the U.S. dollar and they need a D-U.S. a digital U.S. dollar? You know, that very well could be the case because, well, let me put it to you this way, the underlying theme in this conversation that we can't forget about is inflation, inflation, inflation, right? We did a poll at the Center for Polling Excellence affiliated with FGA.
Starting point is 00:36:26 87% of voters, including a majority of Democrats, are either very or somewhat concerned about inflation. And, Glenn, I keep thinking of three numbers. 30, 30, 30, $30,000, national debt. 30% annualized rate of inflation for producers' goods and 30 years high of core inflation. This bill and the associated $5 trillion in spending is only going to fuel for future inflation. We're going to rind up with the inflationary consequences of this infrastructure bill where people won't be able to even afford the gas to drive their cars on the roads
Starting point is 00:37:01 that this bill is allegedly going to fix. How fast do you think that? I mean, you know, what's really irritating to me is they're saying they're paying for this with a lot of the COVID emergency money. Remember when they just started saying, oh, we need this. We need all of this money. And then they never spent it. They knew this was coming in. And so they're moving all of that emergency COVID spending over to pay all of this.
Starting point is 00:37:29 When does this money actually, if approved, to start to get pushed out into the system? Well, here's part of the problem with this, and this is really an underlying problem with this bill as it relates to the funding. We don't even know how much that is going to cover the cost. I mean, they have yet to issue a congressional budget office score for this bill. And they're trying to get it read, well, I don't know what he's going to read it, but try to get it passed and understood and comprehended before Congress goes on summer recess. They don't even know what it costs. I mean, that's preposterous for anyone to expect that the Senate is going to be able to have legitimate debate on this. And if you look at some of the funding mechanisms you're talking about, I mean, you've got the unused COVID provisions.
Starting point is 00:38:10 One of the most egregious ones in my mind is they're trying to book $49 billion in savings by delaying a rule from the Trump administration that would have changed how drugs are paid for by Medicare. Instead of going to insurers, they would have passed prescription savings on the seniors and some of the truly needy. But because they're delaying that rule, that rule will essentially be propping up billions of dollars. on the spending priorities of the Democrats, you know, which range from low emission ferries, the clean energy supply chains on the backs of our Medicare recipients. I can't peak the Senate, but I don't think that's a good way to fund an infrastructure proposal, especially when you've got these seniors living on fixed incomes when inflation's so high. So I want to be charitable to people like Mitt Romney, but I have a hard time doing that.
Starting point is 00:38:58 They say that this is just going to make it cheaper on the other end, because if we give him this, then it won't be so bad in the end. But Nancy Pelosi is saying she's not going to pass anything in this bill unless she gets the full boat in the second bill. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's what I think folks have to take away from this. This is not a, you know, I hear the number $550 billion infrastructure package. That's not what this is about. This is about a $5 trillion dollar welfare-filled expansion, one of the largest in U.S. history, if it gets passed, that Nancy Pelosi and AOC and Joe Biden are attaching at the hip to the infrastructure package. That's what's at issue here. And that's the fundamental problem is that this is tied to unbelievable increases in spending in all the wrong areas that have nothing to do with infrastructure. The infrastructure package is just the tip of the much bigger iceberg that forms the basis of what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:39:58 out here. We're talking to Hayden de Blois. He is the senior research analyst for Foundation for Government Accountability. Hayden, you know, the one thing that we saw in the Obama bill was that it would create these new things and then it would say at the discretion of the, you know, the head of, you know, of the department. And it was just left it open for all the, you know, this new infrastructure to be built without Congress being involved at all. Do you see that in this as well? Oh, sure. I mean, this is a case study of, you know, centralizing power in the hands of bureaucrats and central
Starting point is 00:40:43 planning. I mean, that's, this is exactly and precisely what that is. And we know those are not the right people to make decisions for, you know, paving of state roads. I mean, the power is not going to have killed. There's no accountability, none. No, there's no knowledge. There's no accountability. Every time this has, you know, happened, it fails. I mean, it reminds me of the, you know, the Milton Friedman quote, you know, if you put the government in charge of the Sahara Desert in five years, there'd be a shortage of sand. I mean, that's what we're really going for here. That's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:41:14 All right. Thank you so much. The odds of this passing, I would imagine, are pretty good, right? Yeah, that's the unfortunate reality here is that there seems to be enough support. where this is going to go through, and then they're going to attach it to the larger reconciliation process with all those Democrat wish list items. But it's unsustainable. And to leave you with a thought, 12 years ago, we had the Obama stimulus, about $800 billion. We're essentially going to a place where that's considered a drop in the bucket with Congress. I mean, this infrastructure package is being treated like a rounding error for them. We need to demand that, you know, Congress really changed the way they look at these federal expenditures and deficits. Why are everyday Americans, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:02 force to live within their means when Congress is intent living beyond it? Well, the debt's, the debt ceiling is coming up. It's expiring. And they have to renew it and raise it. Otherwise, we default. And already the Treasury Department is saying, you have to pass this right now. You cannot default on this. And it is irresponsible for the United, if we default, our interest, rates, everything goes through the roof, and we're really screwed. I mean, so what do people do? Well, to Mike Lee's, you know, Mike Lee made a great point on your show yesterday. He asked the question, why are we doing this now?
Starting point is 00:42:42 Why are we doing this at a time when inflation is hitting new records at a time when federal deficits and federal debt are at unbelievable and really unparalleled records? I mean, this does not make any sense. The bottom line is Americans should tell their congressman, listen, I can hold off on the potholes for now if you, you know, if it means avoiding bankrupting my kids and their kids and their kids after them. That's what, you know, people should be telling their members of Congress is that, you know, I'll wait on the, you know, the small portion of this that actually goes towards infrastructure if it means avoiding the consequences of higher inflation, higher taxes, higher spending, higher debt. Hayden, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you, Glenn.
Starting point is 00:43:26 By the way, it was this kind of spending that led Greece into the revolution. And, you know, when you see what's on the other side of this, you'll wish you would have made that call to your congressman and said, if you sign up for any of this crap, I will make it my mission to make sure you are never, never reelected.

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