The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Isabel Brown | 10/11/24

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

During Kamala Harris' "60 Minutes" interview, she gave a lengthy word salad answer to a question regarding Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu. CBS then aired a spliced and selectively edited version. Did CBS shorten her answer due to time constraints, or was this something more nefarious? Turning Point USA contributor Isabel Brown joins to discuss the surgeon general's official warning that having children is harmful to your health and the solution is giving the government more control over your kids. Glenn and Stu discuss how President Trump has better hair than Glenn.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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CBS played a clip of an interview with Kamala Harris. And here is the clip. Listen. Does the U.S. have no sway over Prime Minister Netanyahu? The aid that we have given Israel allowed Israel to defend itself against 200 ballistic missiles that were just meant to attack the Israelis and the people of Israel. And when we think about the threat that Hamas, Hezbollah, presents, Iran, I think that it is, without any question, our imperative to do what we can to allow Israel

to defend itself against those kinds of attack. Now, the work that we do diplomatically with the leadership of Israel is an ongoing pursuit around making clear our principles, which include the need for humanitarian aid, the need for this war to end, the need for a deal to be done, which would release the hostages, and create a ceasefire. And we're not going to stop in terms of putting that pressure on Israel and in the region, including Arab leaders. But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.

Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region. Okay. So that's how she answered. the question, at least when aired on Sunday. However, when they aired the full special, this is how she answered the question. Does the U.S. have no sway over Prime Minister Netanyahu?

The work that we do diplomatically with the leadership of Israel is an ongoing pursuit around making clear our principles. But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu, is not listening. We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end. Do we have a real close ally in Prime Minister Netanyahu? I think, with all due respect, the better question is do we have an important alliance

between the American people and the Israeli people? And the answer to that question is yes. Okay, so now, if CBS shortened for time, it's a standard broadcast thing. Okay. So if they shorten just for time, now they say they're doing that, and I would believe anyone but 60 minutes, and here's why. 60 minutes doesn't usually edit for time when you are flailing. that's the bread and butter of 60 minutes. That moment where, well, but we have a picture here of you with your hand in the till taking the cash.

Well, I mean, that's not me. Let's take that out. He stuttered. Yeah. They don't do that. They don't do that. They don't ever do that. In a presidential election, especially when every word counts, because you have not heard this woman before.

for and we need to know if she is together. You don't edit that. If you do, you disclose that. Now, the GOP in Washington, the House has asked for the transcript. They won't release the transcript, the raw transcript. Well, why not? You do that for other broadcast. You always do that.

They've asked for him several times recently. and CBS just gives them the transcript. There's no reason not to give them the transcript. Unless, and this is extraordinarily unethical and not done in broadcast news, they took an answer from another question and went, that one, put that one in there. That summarizes. You can't do that. if I did that, if that's the way I took and did interviews,

and I was talking to presidential candidates, I was doing that in favor of, let's say, Donald Trump. And I'm like, no, take that other answer, shorten it and put it right there. They would call for my head. They would be calling right now to kick me off the air. And you know what? I think they'd have a point. I really do.

if you are engaging in that. Now, you want to engage in that and you're not 60 minutes or quite honestly, you're not me? Well, to each his own. But I am claiming that I am on the side of truth. 60 minutes is claiming they're on the side of truth. We're in exactly the same situation. Well, except we do tell the truth to our. best of our ability, the mainstream media is engaged in misinformation.

If we get something wrong, we correct it. If somebody needed a transcript from me on an interview that I did, well, it's available online. We don't edit our interviews. Never. Never. So I don't edit for time. No, don't.

But if I had to do an interview at two time, I'm. I might, but I wouldn't have a problem releasing the unedited version. So people know. We've done that before. We've had interviews we had to cut short and we've said, go online. You'll get the full interview. Why won't they do that? So now Donald Trump responds and he says that, let's see,

he said that they should revoke the license. Thursday CBS News should lose its broadcasting license over how it edited a 60-minute interview. Okay, that's not in quote, and why can't I find the exact quote, Stu? I had it here a minute ago. Can you find the exact quote that he said? Here it is. Her real answer was crazy or dumb, so they replaced it with another answer in order to save her, at least make her look better.

A fake news scam, which is totally illegal, take away the CBS license. Okay. First of all, CBS doesn't have a license. Okay, they don't give a license to the broadcast center. They give it to individual stations. So he can't take away the license for CBS.

They don't operate under an FCC license. However, all of the individuals, individual stations do. Now, what does an individual station have to go through? Well, I can tell you what radio goes through, and I'll bet you TV goes through this as well. The FCC comes out every, I don't know what it is, four or six years, and they have to see every single complaint, every single letter of complaint that comes in, and then you're held to task to answer for that. Well, how did you resolve that? What happened? Are they happy? Do you think that was the right thing? you have to have letters that say you're serving your community,

and they can just say, nope, I'm not going to renew your license. That's why this show is different in some regard on radio than it is on the Blaze. Not with very much, but I'm very cautious all the time because I grew up in radio and I know the rules. And I'm not going to be responsible for any station losing its license. if I did that, I guarantee you the left would be on all of my radio stations saying they should lose their license. Because that's the way they operate. Now, that's the truth. So you can say, oh my gosh, he's against freedom of speech.

Well, he can't be against freedom of speech because they don't have a license. Should they answer? Yes. Should Congress call them in front of Congress and ask them, produce this? We need to know. This is election interference. And if you didn't do it, that should be very, very clear. Misinformation comes from people not being transparent. When something doesn't make sense, and those two clips don't make sense, when it doesn't make sense, when it doesn't make sense, you ask for an answer. In normal times, you get an answer and you're like, okay, that makes sense. And you go away. Now, if 60 Minutes has an answer that makes sense, then why wouldn't they produce that answer?

It makes no sense that you go for a week doing this because that's furthering misinformation. It makes people more skeptical of what you're doing. Why have that hassle? Just release a transcript. Now, when it comes to calling them in front of Congress, here's why I agree with that. How can we call the social media companies in front of Congress and demand an answer? And yet, the publicly licensed broadcast stations are not called into question. They're always talking about social media's miss and disinformation.

I think we have a pile of it from the broadcast networks and the individual stations. Why don't we call them in front of Congress? Why don't we question them? I don't want to take away their license. I believe you can be knowingly wrong. You're a dirtbag, but you can do that. Hopefully, as people are now watching broadcast television less and less, they lose their credibility.

and people are like, they don't tell the truth anyway, so why am I watching them? However, this is critical. This year, we had ABC correcting things in a debate and being wrong about it. That's election interference in my book. If CBS did that, this is election interference in my book. Take away their license? No. But make it very uncomfortable.

You come to Congress. You show us the transcript. Show us what's going on. And then just say, have you no shame, CBS? You're lecturing the world about miss and disinformation. And you do this? What's good for the goose is good for the gander. They're trying to shut down all kinds of social media.

They're trying to shut you down. and shut you up. While they don't have to answer a question, this is the best of the Glenn Beck program. So, Stu, thank goodness the surgeon general has come out with that warning that marriage. And having children could be hazardous to your health. Everything that's good is bad, Glenn. They could just say that instead.

What is it? Everything is solid as liquid. Yeah. Yeah. I said up will be down, down will be up, and everything is solid will be liquid. That is where we are. Now being a parent is hazardous to your health. And do you know why?

Because parents both have to, you know, work two jobs and then take care of their kids. And it's so stressful, it cuts years of their life off. So do you know what their suggestion is? Robots. Robot children. right Elon Musk I told you he was in on it

no their suggestion is that you give the government more money and they'll watch your kids for you now of all of the ideas you could come up with

that one's the worst I mean just not having kids is really evil and bad if that's what your message is but well if you're going to have kids give them to us to care for. Give them to us. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. I want to give it to the people who came up with the Epstein client list. Right. Those people are the ones I want to give my kids to. I do feel like that is how the Matrix probably started, right? Like you just start giving your kids over to the government and then suddenly on there on a giant wall with tubes going into them and fueling. That's exactly right. Well, listen to this.

Here in Texas, in the Texas Spring Independent School District. district, these kids, preschool, yeah, preschool, they started coming home and they would not sleep at night. And the parents are like, what the hell is going on with my kid? And then somebody else is like, what the hell has happened to with my kid? And then one of the kids says, look, I got my sleepy sticker. Your what? Teachers were actually giving the kids sleeping stickers to put them a single.

sleep. So when you would come in, you drop your child off, they go, who's going to go to seepy seep? Yeah, you are. And they put a sticker on the kid. It releases melatonin and other things. And put all the kids to sleep. Are you kidding me? And these are the people that care about our children more than, more than you do. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Um, Isabel Brown is somebody who I really, I'll tell you, I have seen the official birth. of one star in my career that I think is massive and going to be even bigger. You know, when you say, it's Ali, Ali Beth Stucky. And I've been watching this other talent for a while now.

And I think she is huge. I think she is one of the best commentators and knows how to use the medium, probably better than anybody else. Isabel Brown, and she's the host of the Isabel Brown show. It's the end of her career right here. And when you get an intro like that from Glenn Beck, it's all over. You're dead. You're dead. It's over, Isabel. Welcome to the program. How are you? I am so great, Glenn. Huge fan of yours. And thank you for those kind words. What a wonderful way to start my Friday.

Yeah. Well, I have to tell you, I just, I watch your stuff online. And I just, I mean, you really get it. You're very, very smart. You're relatable. You know. how the medium works. I mean, you have, you have it all. You have it all. Thank you very much. You bet. So let me talk to you about a couple of things that I just don't understand that going on in society. One of them is now the Surgeon General's warning about how having kids can be hazardous to your health. So give them to us. Kind of sounds like a bad idea. One would think, although I say quite often, in speaking with my own generation, that we live in what I call the upside down

in this parallel universe where lies have become truth and truth have become lies. Just a few weeks ago, the United States Surgeon General, the top physician for our country, did in fact actually put out an official health warning, a declaration that parenting is hazardous for your health as a young adult

because, get this, it makes you more lonely and isolate than if you never had children at all and instead were just alone. And I find this incredibly concerning. I was pre-med in college and have two degrees in biomedical sciences and yearns to be a physician. I just got married at the end of June and I'm thinking about this next stage of my life as well. Why would you go into media like you are? What is wrong with you?

You had an out. The rest of us schlubs could do nothing else. Yeah. This is crazy. But, you know, I'm in this phase of my life and I'm watching all my friends go through this. And it is just alarming to me the strategic advantage that the media and the machine of the government are using to convince you that marriage and family, the most important bedrock foundation of our society, is somehow bad for you and going to destroy your life. Well, I've put the label on my children's foreheads. Just to remind people, if you're thinking about having a kid, look at my forehead.

Surgeon General Warning. I think they should I think they should all have it. Also, the solution is if you're going to have kids, you know, because everybody is working, you know, two jobs, their solution is, well, you take some of the stress off.

Let us take care of them. That's a horrid idea. How about the idea of having a country where one income can actually support a family. family instead of maybe three or three and a half incomes supporting a family. Does that seem like a better goal? One would hope, but unfortunately, it seems our elected officials in particular are asking all

of the wrong questions about how to fix these ailments in society. Their answer is always the same. More government, more regulation, more of the big gov thumb on your day-to-day life. And the sad reality is I really do believe that the United States of America is not the country I grew up in. It has the capacity to be, and that's what we're fighting for every day, to go from the upside down to right side up again. But if we keep continuing in this trajectory, we are leading what I often call a race to the bottom for the developed world. And I think it shows in our crime rates, in our fertility rate plummeting to an all-time low, in our marriage rates currently standing at an all-time low, the lowest they've ever been since 1867.

We're starting to have the conversation finally about nutrition and food and pharmaceuticals, and that's fantastic. But what's really disheartening to me, I think, is that so many of the people older than us, older than our generation, haven't realized that these problems have been festering under the surface for decades because good people have sat down and been quiet and done nothing. And I hope that it's not too late for us to tell the truth to the world that desperately needs to hear it. So how do you think Gen Z is going to vote?

What is connecting with people under 30 that are going to vote? I am incredibly optimistic about Gen Z, which I often get a lot of scorn for, particularly when I speak on cable television and mainstream media. I actually came out with a book in March called The End of the Alphabet, how Gen Z can save America, making the case that we are America's next great generation. And they've been studying these trends for the past several election cycles that are proving. Gen Z is actually the most culturally and politically conservative generation we've seen since World War II. There is a massive pendulum swing happening before our eyes.

And I think we're first and foremost seeing that in this election with young men who are overwhelming overwhelmingly politically conservative. So when I'm seeing these conversations happening on college campuses and online where I spend most of my time with my peers, what I'm seeing people struggle with is this sense of we don't live in the same country that the people running for office claim we still do. They've been in office longer than twice the time we've been alive and they're wildly out of touch with the financial struggles we're dealing with, with the cultural tug of war we're dealing with what I think people are looking for under 30 right now, more than anything, is a sense of a new generation of leadership, new ideas, who is in touch with the cultural battles we're fighting today, and being willing to just tell the truth when everyone in positions of power seems unwilling to do that right now. So that would go in favor of the people that Trump is surrounding himself with, I would imagine. RFK Jr., even though he's an older guy, you know, Tulsi Gassie Gavis.

I mean, Elon Musk. Is that translating it all in favor of Donald Trump? It certainly is. It certainly is. And this idea of a unity party, I think, is a fascinating idea from a young person's perspective as well. When you're seeing this Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, Elon Musk, Donald Trump coalition start to build, it's almost in a sense breaking the two-party system, which I think has been a fearful conversation for a lot of people in politics up to this point. because we don't know what happens after the two-party system.

But in reality, creates a much better opportunity for coalition and conversation for better ideas to come to the surface rather than the same four or five people constantly pulling the strings of power in both political parties. If anything, has really been an eye-opening experience since 2015 when we've had the curtain pulled back a bit in the era of Trumpian politics. What we talk about in Washington as a uniparty is absolutely real. all of the attack we're seeing on young people right now is coming really from a bipartisan perspective in many ways. The fight to ban TikTok, the fight to censor you for misinformation, the fight to

make you inject your arm with these crazy substances. We don't know what's going to happen four or five years down the line. This is coming from both political parties, and I think young people are speaking up to realize it's time for something new. You know, it's really interesting. They're conservative, but it's almost the same thing as the hippie movement. in the 60s, except this time it's conservative. And it's like, look, we want to be natural. We want to have freedom. We'd like to have peace. You know, we just want to get back to what's real. And in some ways, you know, except for the drug part, that's kind of what the hippies were. And don't believe anybody over 30 was, you know, what Nancy Pelosi was saying. And now I guess it's, you know,

you have to believe them until they're at 90 or maybe 100. But it's interesting to me. I think Generation Z is the revolution. Are you familiar with the fourth turning and the pendulum? I sure am, yes. They are the hero generation. They are. They just haven't been given the opportunity to step up to the plate yet.

But I'm telling you they're going to save us. Absolutely correct. And I love the hippie analogy because the truth is, Glenn, I don't know that the hippie movement really ever went away. The culture we're living in today sure has changed a whole lot since we've thought about the rebelliousness of the 1970s and 1980s. But truly to be a punk rock radical, countercultural individual today is to stick it to the man and say enough to the establishment. Today that just happens to look like getting married and starting your own business and saying no to a $250,000 degree in underwater lesbian basket weaving and going to church on Sunday and eating real food. This is the type of revolution we're seeing with Generation Z, and it's so inspiring to see take root and take place.

Because it's the same origin that our country was itself founded upon. This idea of speaking truth to power and fighting for liberty for the next generation, you know, our founding fathers in 1776 were not 85 or 90 years old like we're seeing in Congress today. They themselves were 18, 19, 21, 25 years old. So Vivek Ramoswamy often says, that we were in the midst of a 1776 movement. And I couldn't see anything more obvious than that in 2024. That's great to talk to you.

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. And I mean everything I say. I think you are a superstar. Don't go to medicine. We need your voice. I think your voice is very important. Isabel Brown.

Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Absolutely. Thanks for having me. God bless. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. So I tweeted this earlier today. my son sent me a picture of him and me and Donald Trump together.

This was taking a couple of weeks ago, one of the rallies. And by the way, I'm going to be in, I want to say Phoenix area on Sunday with Donald Trump. But I'm so he said that to me. And I just love it. He was like, dad, this is so cool. Picture with me and you and Donald Trump. It's pretty cool. I mean, Rafe's looking good.

I feel like you can see him and Barron tearing up the town after this. Yeah, yeah. So all I could see was, well, my hair first. My hair looks ridiculous. And I'm standing next to Donald Trump. I mean, that is not easy to do. When Donald Trump's hair makes your hair look ridiculous, you know? I mean, I was looking at.

He's kind of famous for having a, interesting eccentric hair a little bit. Me? No, him. Yeah. You're not known for that. No. You're just about to be known for it.

I'm just about to be known. I mean, wow, that's bad. And when you're standing next to Donald Trump and you notice your hair and then you look at his hair and you're like, wow, his hair looks good. That's saying something. Okay. And then he looks like, you know, he's seen the sun one time this century. I look like, I don't know.

an anemic vampire that never has seen the sun. And when I say anemic, maybe it would be better to say, like, I don't know, a vampire that, uh, Olten has never seen the sun and then also snacks between putting his fangs

into somebody's neck. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. I'm a fat marshmallow man with ridiculous hair. That's all I could see. I just looking at that way. I mean, oh my gosh. I mean, considering that your son is in the picture and the former president of the United

States, the fact that you're only thinking about yourself, what does that, what does it say about you? Oh, I'm a complete ego maniac. I mean, I'm the least humble in the picture. I know it's the Trump thing with the thumbs up. What are you doing, though, in the picture? Well, now in retrospect, that's bad. Are you threatening? I'm pointing to him, but it looks.

like I'm holding a gun to it. It's really a bad, I didn't think of it that way. Considering the past history that has a few months, the fact that you're pointing a, it's seemingly pointing a finger gun at the president. Right. What's happening? I don't know. It's his hair. It's his hair. I'm like, you have better hair than me. I, you know what I didn't notice? You know what I didn't notice until I saw this? And somebody said, I mean, I tweeted this out today. And these are some of the responses. Okay. Yeah, Glenn, but you have great eyes. That's what you say about somebody you're dating, you know, somebody that, a blind date and they're like, no, trust me.

Eyes and personality. So sweet spirit and beautiful eyes. Really? No one says that about you. No one has such a sweet spirit. Okay. Another comment was, yeah, Glenn, because you're fat and he's not. This one. Alcoholism ages people rapidly.

That's true. And Trump has never had a drink. You can see the difference. And then the other thing is... How much younger is he than you? Trump. So the other thing, and I didn't notice this, somebody said, are you standing on an apple box? No.

No, Glenn's actually tall. I'm actually tall. And I didn't realize that's the one thing I have going for me. But I think it's just my hair because it's so ridiculous. It looks like I'm taller than he is. Yeah, or basically the same height. And Trump's known for, what is he, 6-2, 6-3. You're about 6-3.

Yeah. Yeah. So. I mean, just look at the size of my head compared to everybody else in it. I mean, it's quite a piece of work, isn't it? I mean, there's so many stories to be told. Wow. The Lord spent no time.

you, you know, in the looks department. I mean, he gave me some other talents. Really? I haven't found him yet, but I'm sure they're there. I'll find them. I'll find them. Yeah, maybe. But, you know, yeah, there's a lot of stories to be told from that one photo. A picture is worth a thousand words, at least. I got to stop, because I've taken several pictures with him, you know, pointing to him, like he's the guy. Yeah. But you combined it. You did the thumbs up and the point. And the finger gun. And that means it's a finger gun. Right. Yeah. And the man who's almost been assassinated twice in the past. Bad idea. Bad idea. I'll have to, I'll have to give you that one. That's incredible. He probably looked at that and went, what the hell is he doing? What's he doing?

He's threatening me with a finger. Actually, I don't think that's what. I think he looked at that and said, what the heck am I doing? Why am I doing this? Why am I doing this? Why am I doing? Whatever I'm doing, it's not worth it. I mean, the country doesn't, it's not that important. I had to stand with this guy over and over again. Come on. I will say too, and this is you after losing what, like a lot of weight. Okay, you don't either rub it in. No, I'm trying to, I'm trying to praise you. You're doing really well with that.

How much have you lost now? A lot. Yeah, about 40 pounds. 40 pounds. So in theory, that could have been a lot worse. It's like the hurricane. He's like, ah, we only lost a bunch of houses and some trees and there were a bunch of tornadoes took out a bunch of stuff. It could have been worse.

You're saying this is a Milton picture. It's like a year of Hurricane Milton in the photo. It could have been worse. It could have been worse. You're right. That's the way to look at it. Katrina. Katrina is if you took the picture six months ago.

Yeah. So it's a great, great picture though, Glenn. Yeah, thank you. I'm glad I was taking it. And I'm really glad you posted it. Yeah. That I'm, that I am. Well, I mean, I can't be the only one thinking it.

You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, the makeup, makeup comes in, you know, all the time, and they're making us, you know, fixing the hair and stuff. And I'm like, it doesn't get any better. No, I know. There's nothing you can do to make this. And no one's watching for my good looks.

Okay, that's clear. Oh, yeah. America has lowered her standards to the ground. Seriously, they used to put, like, really good-looking people on TV. They don't. And now they put us on it. I know. It's a terrible idea.

Well, but not really. we had to build our own company. Everybody else in the business was like, we got to get rid of that. Yeah, it's fair. It's a fair point. So we got that going for us. Okay.

I did a podcast yesterday. It comes out. It's out for the Blaze viewers. And it's with Kirk Cameron. And, man, I learned so much about him. He is the most genuinely positive. Happy guy, I think I know. He's really consistent.

You never see him like angry or. Or like, you know what? We're all going to die. Right. It's always optimistic. Always optimistic. And it's genuine. And, you know, we got to the end of the interview.

And it's a very, I don't know, very real moment, I guess. He was, you know, spewing something. And, you know, all happy talk, I'm sure. And I found myself, I didn't hear a word he said. And then he stopped talking. and I said, I got to be honest with you, I didn't, I wasn't even listening to you. I don't have any idea. What?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, because, because I said, I'm just looking at you and listening to your happy attitude. And I'm looking, you know, I don't mean to be, you know, I'm not coming on to you, but I look in in your eyes and you mean all of this stuff. You're genuinely very positive and happy. and I'm thinking to myself that's what I want to be I want to be him I want to be like him

yeah I do I mean you kind of connected with that a little bit in that Boris Johnson clip you played earlier where like they're like what do you think about democracy is dead and he was like

no I'm actually really optimistic and he gave it long and like while you could certainly doubt that there's reasons to doubt it right now like I kind of like that I still connect with that I still I want that to be the world I'm not saying it is.

I'm just saying that's what you want it to be. And I actually, you know, let's take a quick break and then we'll come back. And I want to play a couple of things that are in this podcast because I think he's right. I think he's right. We're on the precipice of something really good. Probably also on the precipice of something really, really bad. But that will turn out to be really, really good. There you go.

That's the optimism we're talking about. I've got to have a little doom in there. It's a little bit. It's a strange and winding path to get there. Okay.