The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Jack Carr | 10/8/25

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

A pro-Palestinian protest in New York City called “Flood NYC” is a direct reference to the slaughter of Jews that occurred in Israel on October 7. Glenn discusses the case heard in front of the Supreme Court yesterday regarding transgender therapy for children and the massive impact it will have on free speech and freedom of religion if the Supreme Court rules the wrong way. California gubernatorial candidate Katie Porter had a full-blown meltdown during an interview, which has already led to a significant decline in her popularity. Best-selling author of the "Terminal List" series Jack Carr joins to discuss his newest book from the "Tom Reece" series, "Cry Havoc," which takes a deep dive into the Vietnam War.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Now let's get to work. You're listening to. Haiti Porter, she's a Democrat representative from California, who ran. for Senate and lost, and now she's running for governor yesterday. About this time, she was the frontrunner. Today, she's not. I just want to play a clip of the interview she did yesterday. What do you say to the 40% of California voters who you'll need in order to win who voted for Trump?

How would I need them in order to win, man? Well, unless you think you're going to get 60% of the vote. You think you'll get 60%? Everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you. That's what you're thinking. In a general election? Yes. If it is me versus a Republican, I think that I will win the people who did not vote for Trump.

What if it's you versus another Democrat? I don't intend that to be the case. So how do you not intend that to be the case? Are you going to ask them not to run? No, no. I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I have the support already in terms of name recognition. And so I'm going to do the very best I can to make sure that we get through this primary in a really strong position.

But let me be clear with you. I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I have stood on my own two feet and won Republican votes before. That's not something every candidate in this race can say. If you're from a deep blue area, if you're from L.A. or you're from Oakland. You don't have an experience.

But you just said you don't need those Trump voters. But you asked me if I needed them to win. So you don't think you need to them. I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative. What is your question? The question is the same thing I asked everybody. That this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's power grab.

Every other candidate has answered this question. This is not argumentated. And I said, I support it. So, and the question is, what do you say to the 40% of voters who voted for Trump? Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you need them to win part that I don't understand. I'm happy to answer the question as you haven't written and I'll answer it. And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think you need any of those 40% of California voters to win?

And you're saying, no, you don't. No, I'm saying, I'm going to try to win every vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is that Well, to those voters, okay, so you... I don't want to keep doing this, I'm going to call it. Thank you. She gets up and walks away? You're not going to do the interview with us.

Nope, not like this, I'm not. Not with seven follow-ups to every single question you ask. Oh, God forbid. Every other candidate has answered our followers. I don't care. I don't care. I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you ask me about every issue on this list. And if every question, you're going to make up a follow-up question,

then we're never going to get there. Ms. Porter. And we're just going to circle around. I am an investigative reporter. I have never had to do this before, ever. You've never had to have a conversation with an interview. Okay, but every other candidate has done this. What part of, I'm me, I'm running for governor because I'm a leader. So I am going to make. So you're not going to answer questions from reporters? Okay, why don't we go through? I will continue to ask follow-up questions because that's my job as a journalist, but I will go through and ask these. And if you don't want to answer, you don't want to answer. So nearly every legislative... I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you. And I don't want this all on camera. I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either. I would love to continue to ask these questions so that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels

about every one of these issues that they care about. And redistricting is a massive issue. We're going to do an entire story just on the responses to that question. And I've asked everybody the same follow-up question. Didn't go well. Wow. didn't go well. Somebody who is, she kind of even says it.

She's never had to deal with follow-up questions before. No. What an amazing, we sometimes don't appreciate what a great life it must be on the left. Oh, I've thought about that a lot. Oh, my God, you never have to deal with anything. No one ever asks you a follow-up. No one ever pushes you on anything. You just say whatever you want and everyone just walks away as if it was the greatest thing of all

time. That must be so much fun. I mean, I mean, you know. You'd be so intellectually weak. Oh, so, you see it there. She asks one minor follow-up question that isn't adversary at all, and she pulls the plug on the interview. I'm not going to do this.

I don't want all this on camera. Well, there's a lot that I haven't wanted on camera. It didn't stop anybody else. All right. That's when they get most excited to put you one. I know. I know. I know.

That's so bizarre. I wasn't, she didn't, the reporter wasn't even. wasn't even going at her hard. It was like, hey, what do you mean? You don't need... I mean, it's such a... What a layup of a question, Glenn. You know, no offense, but it's like,

do you need the 40% of people to trump voters to win? You say, well, I, you know, I want to get as many of them as I can. And of course, I want to get as many voters I can, but I'm going to stand on my principle. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, any any competent politician, that's not even a follow-up question. It's like, do you want more voters?

that's the hard question she walked out of an interview for her. But here's, I mean, remember who she is. Remember who she is. Okay. Must we? Well, I mean, I think we just proven everything that they said wasn't true. According to people who had worked in her office, she has made several, multiple staffers cry. People are generally so anxious to even, to even staff her.

Because if anything goes wrong, she flips out on. whatever staffer is present. She just talks to staffers however she wants. One criticism of Porter has been that she allegedly is a terrible person, according to some accounts, abusive and racist. In December text messages surfaced in which Porter scolded a staffer for giving the congresswoman COVID. One message said she was rage prone and had a tendency to disparage staffers. Other suggested her expectations were wildly unrealistic. One message accused her of making racist comments. Those are from her staffer. And remember, those are from 2022. I mean, we've seen this and they just buried all of that. And now you're starting to see it. You know, when you force people

into uncomfortable situations, you generally see who they really are. And that wasn't really an uncumpt. That was a normal situation for anybody who's right. You can't handle that, sweetheart. You can't handle anything. But imagine you're in California. She was the front runner yesterday. That's who everybody's like, yeah, I'll probably vote for her. Yesterday. Looking at Cali, one of the prediction markets,

and she was at a 40% chance to win, which was double anybody else in the race. And today, she's now a slight underdog in the race from that interview. It was that bad. Now, we don't know how the elector actually responds to it. They'll take some time for polling and response. People actually will see it.

Right. You know, it could run and then go away. A lot of conservatives are going to see that today because conservatives are going to play it like crazy. Will people who might actually vote for her see it? Is a totally different question. How do we, you know, we watch NBC, CNN. We have MSNBC on us in front of us all the time. We listen to NPR.

We listen to, you know, the New York Times. We read the New York Times. Maybe it's time to appreciate us a little bit more. Just saying, we do that for you every day. Yeah. Just so you know. Yeah, we do it so you don't have to. However, we bring those things up all the time on the air.

We know where the other side stands. They have, there are stories that just don't hit that side. Yeah, they have no idea to even. And they don't listen to anything else. And so there are stories like that, that stupid story of the judge's house burning down, there are going to be people forever that believe. that was a hate crime. There is no evidence of anything.

Even an arson. Of arson. There's nothing. That it was some conservative who did it. It was a house that burned down. That's all we know now. There's no, they had to immediately jump to. It's a house of a judge.

That judge stopped Donald Trump. Harmeet Dillon wrote a really absolutely innocuous, you know, hey, this judge just made this ruling, we will fight that every way we possibly can. That can't stand. They took that and said, Harmeet Dillon was targeting this judge, so somebody went on the right and burned that judge's house down. None of that. There's no evidence of any of that. They don't even know what caused the fire yet. And I'll bet you, you're going to find out that it wasn't arson. It was just a normal fire. It was 11 o'clock in a morning. It was just a normal fire. The house burned down. It was a tragedy. Glad that nobody was hurt. Well, her husband was hurt in it. He had some

broken bones and stuff as he tried to get out of the house. And we wish them the best. But you're going to find, I think, and I'll correct it if we find differently. It wasn't any of those things. But they have reported that now as fact. How many people are going to believe that forever. I can guarantee you, I have members of my own family who will bring that up to me, well, you say violence is what about burning the judge's house down? And I'll have to say, that's not true. Yes, it is, and they won't believe me because they heard it on NBC, they heard it on CNN, they heard it in the Washington Post, and so they just believe it. There are no facts to back that. None. Now, there may be in the future, maybe in a couple of days,

let the process work, but there's none. These journalists on the left are so unbelievably irresponsible. And then because they have zomified their entire base, their base will not listen to the other side. There are stories, I guarantee you. Think about how many people are going to believe from here on out that Charlie Kirk was either killed by a Jew or somebody in his own camp,

or it was a left winger. It was a Donald Trump MAGA killer. Because that's what they said. And they're not listening to you. They're not watching Fox. They're not getting their news. They don't all news from major traditionally trusted sources. They watch all of that.

And they think they're getting a variety. Well, I read the Times and the Post. Oh, New York Post or Washington Post? Well, not the New York Post, the Washington Post. There's no variety there. No, it's the same thing. And this is how something like you can change your gender with a series of magical words comes into effect.

Because it's how global warming is real. A liberal hears something like the gender stuff, for example. And they hear it the first time, and they just like you, react the same way. What? What do you mean? You can just become a. a girl. What are you talking about? They, in their minds, react the same way the first time they hear that. And then they hear it 500,000 other times unchallenged. And saying science is settled.

Yep. And they're like, wow, I must have been wrong about that. And even if they don't say, if they have nothing to back it up, like in this burning down the house, they just say it over and over and people go, well, they wouldn't say that if it wasn't true. Right. And I don't hear anybody else. Oh, except for the crazy conservatives. Who cares what they're saying? So, I mean, this is why I would, you know, I have hope. Again, there's a lot of work to be done. She's got a difficult job.

But, like, I have hope for the Barry Weiss situation at CBS News. Me too. It would be great if there was just a, an organization out of all of the ones that exist, that just comes out and gives you fair, you know, balanced stuff. Now, I know Fox does that, but they're seen more as a conservative network, obviously. but their slogan for years was fair and balance and it was seen by the people who watched it and watched other networks

as the most balance when we were there. I remember that. Yeah, I think it was 40, 30 or 40% of the audience was Democrat. Yeah. So there's plenty of people who will actually go and read and listen to other things. But it's not particularly common.

And I don't know what might happen is if the coverage by Barry Weiss over at CBS is quote unquote too fair. They will be seen as a right wing network and be dismissed against. That's how they'll make them. And by the way, congratulations. I was so glad to see Glad and everybody else, you know, LGBTQ come out and celebrate.

Barry Weiss getting that position. Smashing another glass ceiling of sorts. Yeah. It is amazing. So much fan. Too much fanfare. It really was. I was.

I was. I mean, I'm like, okay, yes, it's a first. But, I mean, do we have to make that big of deal out of it? Yeah. Or did you hear anything? I didn't hear one word about it. Not one word of celebration. No.

No one can't. Again, this is a person who founded the free press with her wife. It was just bought by a major media organization for nine figures. And she's now the editor-in-chief or the, yeah, is it? Editor-in-chief of CBS News. Not a, no flowery discussions about her sexual preference. No. Her sexual orientation.

And she's not even conservative. No, she's not. She's just fair. She describes herself as center left. Right. And this is how desperate we are in the right. We're like, wait, someone who's center left and actually kind of means something with her? Like she will actually say, because sometimes conservatives are right on stuff.

That is, we're like, fine. We're not even asking for... Look at how desperate we are, but look at the other side. How authoritarian they are on the other side. You can't even say occasionally they get it right. No. Nope. Never. And we're the authoritarians?

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podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Jack Carr is in with us now. Jack, it's always good to see. It is so great to see you. Thank you so much. for having me. And it is so amazing to watch you work in this studio. I've been in a lot of studios over the last few years. And none are as, as clean and efficient as what you have going on here. It's absolutely amazing to watch you work. Someone at the top of their game, do this. It's just remarkable. Are you going to ask me for money? Maybe a blurb. It's good to have you here, as you don't know, best-selling author and executive producer of the Terminalist series books. And that's Netflix.

It's Amazon Prime. Amazon Prime video. And just finished the next season of the show, which is True Believer, based on my second book. Finished filming that in Morocco about two weeks ago. So pretty fresh from finishing that up, jumping on a plane, meeting my wife in Paris for a few days and then heading out here to see you. So it's been Go, Go, Go, Go. Yeah. So tell me about the new book.

It came out yesterday. And you set it in Vietnam, which... Vietnam, 1968. Is a real break, right? It's a break for my main protagonist, James Reese, who is the protagonist of my contendombed. contemporary thriller series. So there are seven of those ends with Red Sky Morning last year. There was just a nice arc to those first seven books. And I kind of, at the very beginning, I was very deliberate in wanting to create other characters within the universe that would be interesting enough to have books in their own right. And I wanted to have multi-generational characters also. So James Reese, his dad and grandfather, and then this other lineage, the Hastings family of the Hastings and his father and grandfather. So this is the first exploration. A little empire. So filled a universe out here.

And I talked about the dad in most of the books, but most in-depth in only the dead. So in book number six. And it just made sense to go back to 1968, Vietnam, explore his origin story as a seal attached to Mac V-Sogg going across the border. What is Mac V-Saw? So it's a very innocuous sounding name. So Military Assistance Command, Vietnam Studies and Observations Group. So the SOG part is the important part. And it was meant kind of to be inocular.

so that they wouldn't be readily apparent that these guys were going across the border into denied areas in Laos, Cambodia, North Vietnam where they weren't supposed to be operating, where Americans were not supposed to be operating. So they were there to do disruption operations along the Hocheon Trail, primarily, colonel air strikes, blow up weapons caches and that sort of thing. So that's the baseline for it. But I really wanted to do was set an espionage story in Southeast Asia in 1968, which was the bloodiest year of the war for the United States.

and no one had really done that in a long time. So that was The Quiet American by Graham Green, 1955, The Tears of Autumn, that's Charles McCarray, 1974, and John the Corray, the Honorable Schoolboy, 1977. And I'm not aware of anyone else doing this since those guys. So it's been a couple moons, and I decided that's what I want to do, espionage story, Saigon, heart of Vietnam, Southeast Asia,

and the bloodiest year for our country. So when you got into this, how much it was any of it, because there's so much that is parallel that is happening now. I mean, the society is reflecting all the way to assassinations. What was happening at that time? Did that play a role in this at all? Well, it just by default. But mostly it was because the father's war was Vietnam.

There happened to be parallels between what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam. We didn't really listen to those, learn those lessons and apply them in a present day as wisdom. And we tend to do that over and over and over again. We're really stupid as a species. Specifically when it relates to Afghanistan, we had the Soviet experience from 79 to 89 that we could have looked at. And we took any lessons. We took the wrong ones, unfortunately. So what did you, because you're younger than me, but we're.

Not by too much. That's made too many too many years. So we both grew up. We saw Vietnam. We saw the wreckage of Vietnam. You know, I know Vietnam's soldiers. and I mean, it's really what molded me on my support for the military. If we decide to go to war, then we go to war to fight it and finish it and bring them home

and then take care of the men that served over there. And we're not doing it again. Another lesson we don't ever seem to learn. What did you learn about Vietnam that maybe did it change anything, any viewpoint or anything? It did a little bit in that I thought I knew a lot about Vietnam at the outset. I thought I had studied this conflict. The 60s also. My parents were essentially children of the 60s.

Right. So I grew up with that in my household. I was influenced by popular culture, the movies of the 70s and the 80s and the 90s that pertained to Vietnam and the 60s in general. So I thought I was starting from a fairly solid foundation. I've studied warfare insurgencies, counterinsurgencies my entire life. So then I started writing and I realized that I had really just scratched the surface before. So I wanted to also write this book through the lens of 1968. So without 50 plus years of hindsight applied to different characters.

How hard was that? That's why we're talking here in October rather than June when the book was supposed to come out. Because it took so much longer to write a book like that, meaning every single character, whether they're 25 years old, 50, 70 years old, they only have their life experience up to 1968 to lend to their perspective on an event, on a conversation, a situation. Give me a scenario where you were like, I can't write that. You know, I immersed myself back into that year. a watch from 1968 right here.

I had Seiko watches out there, too. Those play in to the, to the, to it. I had Browning High Powers from that era lying around. I had Car 15s lying around. It looked like I was about to invade North Vietnam. I had maps from that era all over the place. I had red dots on those maps books everywhere, pamphlets, old national geographics from the 50s and 60s about Vietnam.

So it really did look like I was planning an invasion. But I learned so much more about Vietnam, but mostly it was that was, perspective. So I have a Soviet perspective. I have a U.S. perspective. I have a Vietnamese perspective. I have a U.S. perspective from Washington. And all of those to give, to show people as they read this thing that there are these different perspectives on the war and all these different people are bringing their life experiences to this story to really immerse people and take them back in time to 1960. I just didn't want to say that they're listening to Creedons Clearwater Revival. Say it's 1968

and drop a contemporary thriller into Vietnam. I wanted to immerse myself in this year. year and it really became historical fiction. And as such, it took a lot more time, energy, and effort than I anticipated at the outset. Let me ask you about some of the stuff that is going on now, the Department of War. I feel about Department of War as opposed to Department of Defense. Yeah, well, I'm not saying that they got this idea for me. I'm just saying that I never heard anyone talk about it until I mentioned it after the Afghanistan withdrawal. Right. So, I did an article for town hall, and I talked about it on different news programs when the withdrawal was going south. And precision in language reflects precision and thought, as you know.

And the Department of Defense means something different than the Department of War, just from a personal language perspective. Defense is defense. The Department of War is the Department of War. So I made that case in this article that I wrote back in 2021. And now we're doing it. I think it's really smart. It is smart, but also if you read the statement on it, it's not permanent. So if you really go into the verbiage in that, it's very deliberate in there.

So another administration coming in. So now we're just calling it the Department of War, but I believe, and someone can correct me in the comments section here, but I believe that it does take an act of Congress to officially change this forever going forward. Now they're calling it the Department of War. So if you look at the Department of War, it's very specific. You're calling it the Department of War, but it's not yet really the Department of War. I have to tell you, it is so, we are in such a weird place to where we swing so far one direction and then the next administration just swing all the way back.

You can't run a country like that. I mean, you know, we can't run a country like China either where they have absolute control of everything, but they can think, you know, 20, 50, 100 years in the future. That's how they become successful. We have to think two years in the future. But we used to be together on more stuff. Now you switch administration, go to the other side, and it's not the same country. No, and it's certainly the phones that we carry around in our pockets are not helping matters at all,

and all, especially for this next generation. My son's generation, my son that you met in Salt Lake this last year. He's doing wonderfully. He wanted me to say hi to you. And I really appreciate you being so kind to him when you met. But it's his generation, really. And our daughter's a little bit older. and like Charlie Kirk, our son was coming up to me all the time and showed me those videos.

My wife and I would be sitting on the couch and he was at 12, 13, 14, show me these videos. And he just had this such this connection with Charlie Kirk and that message. And that's the generation. That was a tough one because he was away at school and I didn't get to him in time to tell him, hey, don't look at your phone. Don't watch this video. And so both him and my daughter saw it. My daughter was about 10 feet away.

Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Just, I'm so sorry. Horrible. Horrible. And she's the most, well, second most sensitive child in the four. But, I mean, it's happening to all of, all of our kids. Because they, they felt, even if he didn't know him, they felt they knew him.

They did. You know, because he was so genuine and real. Yeah. They really did. And it wasn't like the JFK assassination where we're seeing something in the paper. You're hearing Walter Cronkite talk about it on the news. We didn't get this approved of film until you're. years later. For us, Challenger, watching that, you didn't see people, you saw an object

explode in the sky and you were devastated just by that. Now you have someone you feel that you know get killed right in front of you and essentially in high definition and just one so brutal and so heartbreaking. But it also has really galvanized. It's changed a generation, I think, also. And bringing a lot of people back to the church, us included. That's amazing, isn't it? It really is incredible to see. It's amazing to me. I was just talking to some friends. You know,

it's so appropriate that Christ was a carpenter. Because I have always thought of my life, you know, before I really turned over to him as just, it was building my house and I wanted to be a helpful guy. You know, I want to be involved in building the house. I should not be involved. I have no skills.

And we had a pile of wood and needed to be cut. And I was like, you know what, let me help. I'm going to just cut this wood. Okay, Mr. Beck. So I measure. I measure twice. I cut it and they take it and they take it back in the house and I keep cutting. And I run out of wood and I said, well, you have any more wood or anything?

And I said, look to me and said, now it's your money. So whatever you want to do, we're all for. But everything you've cut, we've had to recut or toss away. And I was like, you guys should have said something before I cut all of the wood. But anyway, you're having such a good time. Right. And with my life, I feel like I cut all of this wood and none of it was usable, you know, because I just destroyed my own life and none of it was usable. And then I turned myself over to God and I had all this crappy pile of wood.

And he took it and made something beyond what I could have ever done. And there was not even any sawdust. There's no waste with him. and you're seeing it happen with Charlie's death, look at what has been born out of that. I mean, I would never want that to happen, and he didn't want it to happen, but how he can take the very worst things

and make something glorious is amazing. It's incredible to see that impact, and I guess that is the one consolation is that the impact that he has in death is probably more impactful generationally than what he had in life even. And he had a huge one in life. Oh, huge one in life.

Yeah. This one last. This one will last and last. We're talking to Jack Carr, bestselling author of the Terminalist series. He has the new book Terminalist series, Cry Havoc. It came out yesterday.

It's available wherever you get your books. You're streaming the best of Glenn Beck. To hear more of this interview and others, download the full show podcasts wherever you get podcasts. Thank you so much for listening. We have some sad news. Dolly Parton's sister has asked the world's pray for the country star. She has canceled all of her concerts and her appearances, and apparently

she is suffering from health challenges. We don't know exactly what it is, but I mean, Dali Parton, how can you possibly say anything bad about Dali Parton? Daly Parton is one of those just icons of America that I think universally everybody loves, even if you don't like country music. She's just a sweet, sweet lady. So pray for Dulley Parton. and her health. There's a couple of other things that I want to talk to you about today. I want to talk to you about gold. I want to talk to you about what, by the way, it's $4,000 an ounce.

That should be very concerning. We'll talk about that. I also want to talk to you about the Hamas flags that were flying in New York City yesterday, not just the Hamas flag, but also the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. That flag actually says, glory to our martyrs. So, so Mom Donnie had another rally.

What's the, what's the problem with that? I know. I know. They are now, they were talking yesterday about, the protesters said they were acting from the belly of the beast. Remember, we're the great Satan. Israel's

a little Satan. This is Islamic jihad. And we now have Americans engaging in standing up and waving Islamic jihad flags. Look at the size of this crowd in New York. I will never look at the Palestinian flag again.

The same way after I've, after seeing Dinesh D'Souza's, his new movie about the, what is it, the mystery of the dragon or something? Yeah, the prophecy of the dragon. And it comes from, it comes from, you know, the book of Revelation. And it's the white horse, the red horse.

the black horse, the green horse, all the cuddlers of the Palestinian flag. And there are so many different things in the Bible. The Bible actually uses the word Hamas. Look it up. It's crazy. It uses the word Hamas as destruction and death. And Gaza is all over in the Bible too. But I don't know.

But anyway, so how do you feel about the people on the streets? if we were truly living in a dictatorship, if we were living in a country where we had a dictator who would just not allow anybody to say anything, we wouldn't be talking about Jimmy Kimmel. We would be talking about the rounding up of people who are carrying Islamic terrorist flags and shouting slogans for Islamic jihad in our own country.

That's what a dictator would do. He would stop that speech. Am I wrong? I mean, what's more dangerous? Jimmy Kimmel? What's more un-American? Jimmy Kimmel or Islamic Jihad? You're calling for the death of Jews.

I mean, that is so unbelievably un-American. But just like we did in the 1930s, we, you know, We let the Nazis walk in the streets, you know, in the 1930s. And they held a big rally in Madison Square Garden. If you've never seen it, it's the American Boond movement, B-U-N-D. It is frightening. Nazis were everywhere, especially in the German communities of the Northeast. And they held rallies.

They, you know, imaged George Washington next to Adolf Hitler. It was crazy stuff. crazy. Well, we learned. We learned what Nazis were and those Nazis went away. This, I hope this goes away, you know, at least from the stupid people that just don't know what they're doing. Oh, I'm just marching, you know, because the Palestinians are, you know, oppressed. Can you do a little more thought, put a little more thought into this at all? Who are you standing with? The reason why I bring this up today is not only it was it uh what did they call this yesterday the uh new york flood i can't remember um i can't remember exactly what they called it i just saw it glory to our martyrs

blah blah blah they had called to flood new york city that's what it was this protest they said flood New York City. Well, that is an exact reference to the Operation Al-Axa flood, which is what that operation was on October 7th, a flood. They called it a flood. Again, Book of Revelation, the dragon unleashes a flood. I personally like to know who these people are. I personally like to be able to say, okay, do you know who you're standing with?

with? Do you know who's supporting you? Do you know who's funding all of this? And I like to make the case. And I don't want to ever kick these people off of the streets. You have a right. But I thought we lived in a dictatorship and we didn't have freedom of speech. Let me show you something where we don't have freedom of speech. Is counseling freedom of speech? This is what was in front of the Supreme Court yesterday. It comes from Colorado. Colorado. has a ban on conversion therapy. 2019, they passed a law. Counselors cannot try to change a minor client's gender identity or sexual orientation, including behaviors or gender expressions.

I mean, you want to talk about freedom of speech. I can't try to change your behavior? What is the point of going to church? Okay. can't try to change behaviors or gender expressions or sexual identity or orientation. It does permit. It has an exception. The counselor can offer assistance to a person undergoing gender transition. So you can help them one direction.

You just can't help them the other direction. Now, Kaylee Childs, she is a licensed counselor in Colorado. She's in Colorado Springs. God bless her heart. And she specializes in addiction, trauma, sexuality, gender dysphoria, and other mental health concerns. She's a Christian. And she serves clients who are seeking religiously informed care that aligns with biblical teachings, especially on sexuality and gender. Now, prior to 2019, she was fine.

She counseled clients, including minors, and she would say, you know, this is what the Bible says, this is how you do it, and she would help people, you know, with their gender dysphoria. Now, she, once the law passed, she stopped, all discussion with minors, everything else. She's abiding by the law. However, she has a lawsuit. That's the court case that the Supreme Court. heard yesterday. Does counseling count? Or is counseling freedom of speech? Can I not counsel based on my religious dictates? Colorado says no. This is going to be a huge case. Let me tell you some things that I absolutely believe. And I can say them today. But if this,

This court case goes the wrong way. Will I be allowed to say these things? These are things I absolutely believe. I believe that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained by God. And the family is central to the creator's plan for eternal destiny of his children. Believe it. I believe all human beings, male and female, are created in the image of God. each of us is a beloved spirit, a son or daughter of God.

We have divine nature, destiny, and gender is an essential characteristic of individual, eternal identity, and purpose. Any of this controversial today? The first commandment that God gave to Adam and Eve was pertaining to parenthood, husband and wife, go have children. God's commandment of go and multiply and replenish the earth has never been revoked. So that is our first commandment from God, replenish the earth, have children. God commands that procreation, the powers that he gives us, this is the only thing where we can truly create the way the creator does, where we partner with him and our bodies and our spirits and we make children. And that should only be used between a man and a woman lawfully,

lawfully wedded as husband and wife. Life, the sanctity of life, is everything to God's eternal plan. Husband and wife have a responsibility to love and care for one another and their children. You have a sacred duty to rear your children in love, in righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, to teach them love, serve one another, observe the commandments of God, be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Mothers and fathers, if you don't do this, you're going to be held accountable because it is your highest calling. this is your obligation. Is this controversial?

Marriage between a man and a woman. The basic building block of all life in the universe is male and female creating life. That tells me that's an eternal truth. You don't create life with male and male. The universe collapses male and male, female and female. So the universal truth, the way man was created, the truth is male and female to create children. And that is an eternal plan.

And every time we break that plan, every time we decide that we're just going to have sex outside of matrimony, outside of the family, every time you break mom and dad and child, every time you don't honor your marital vows, it hurts all of society. Happiness, and we all know this, happiness is best achieved when you're just living the principles of Christ. You've got man and woman, both lawfully wedded, and they're creating children,

and they're both trying to do the right thing following God, repentance, forgiveness, respect, love, compassion, work, all of this stuff. There will come a time, because all of this stuff comes from the Bible, there will come a time where I can't have the freedom of speech to say those things. That will be deemed hate speech. That's what's in front of the Supreme Court yesterday. we have people in black robes deciding whether that can be said by me, by you, by a counselor, by a priest. In Colorado today, that counselor cannot sit down with that minor and say what I just said. It's against the law in Colorado. Is that the freedom that the left?

that the left is preaching for? I mean, is that, yes, that is their definition of freedom. Their definition of freedom is counselors can't say those things. You can't say those things. Churches can't say those things. That's all hate speech. We should kill people who disagree with us. That's the society that the left is offering you.

No, thank you. No, thank you. and no matter what the punishment is, I won't stop saying those things because I believe them and I can't change what I believe. Because I believe them. It's not something I just say.

It's how I live my life. It's years and years and years of experimentation of that works. That doesn't. Wow, that hurts. Don't do that again. That's how I got my belief. I tore myself apart. What do you actually believe about God?

And if you haven't done that, you don't really have a testimony. It requires you. But that only happens when life pushes you up against the wall. And that's why God is allowing a lot of this stuff to happen. He needs his children pushed up against the wall to wake up. What is true? What is worth standing for? What is worth dying for?

What is worth living for? find those things you'll find christ you'll find god and you'll find happiness and we will find peace