The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: John Strand | 1/6/25

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

What is in the manifesto by the man suspected of blowing himself up in a Tesla Cybertruck outside a Trump hotel in Vegas? Glenn picks through what we know and whether or not we can trust the governmen...t, and he discusses the terrifying secrets that might be lurking within our government. In possibly the biggest story in human history, have we reached the singularity regarding artificial intelligence? "Patriot Plea" author and January 6 attendee John Strand joins to reflect on his life since serving a prison sentence for attending the January 6 riot.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:17 And I want to start with the terror attacks. But I want you to know there is a theme to today's show, January 6th. The theme is, you've been lied to, and it is time for us now to sort through everything and find out what's true and what isn't true. So let's dive into something that we begin with. It sounds like science fiction. In fact, the next two hours are going to sound like science fiction to you. But even if a fraction of this is true, it is not only real, but it is also deeply alarming. It's about power.
Starting point is 00:02:55 It's about secrecy. And those in the know that have kept the truth hidden from us, not just from you and me, but from the very people sworn to protect our way of. life. So let me start with the source of what I'm going to tell you about. It's a manifesto that comes from the guy who was claiming to be a whistleblower. He claimed to be a man on the run, hunted by his own government, he said. He blew himself up, apparently, in a Tesla near the front door of the Trump Hotel in Vegas. Now, why would he do that? He said because the government has been lying to us. I'm not going to give you the guy's name because I don't want to make him famous and I hate,
Starting point is 00:03:43 we usually don't read manifestos on the air and I'm going to give you the summary of it. But if any of this is true, it needs to be released. We need to stand up and say, we need to know the truth on this. Because if what he's saying is accurate, it changes everything. Now, if you read the manifest, he talks about gravitic propulsion systems. What is that? It's not your average stealth fighter or next-gen drone. We're talking about aircraft that allegedly manipulate gravity itself. Gravity.
Starting point is 00:04:25 It manipulates it to achieve flight. It's a concept that defies all current physics, but it's not without precedent in speculative. science. Now, what this means is no combustion engine, no jet fuel, no sound barrier, just seamless, silent motion at unimaginable speeds. The kind of technology that makes radar, heat signatures, and even conventional missile defense systems completely obsolete. Now, I know this sounds crazy, there was a very little known announcement, kind of, that happened over the weekend, that no one is talking about. And it is the biggest news story of possibly all human history.
Starting point is 00:05:25 So hear me out on this. Now, according to the manifesto, the aircraft are actively being deployed both in the United States and China, and not just as prototypes in some secret desert lab, but operationally. Apparently, he alluded to the fact that this is what we're seeing with the drones. The whistleblower claimed that China has been launching these systems from submarines stationed in the Atlantic right off our East Coast. Now, let that sink in for a minute, if this is true, silent, undetectable aircraft capable of carrying massive payloads launched from submarines, that can remain undetected just miles from our shores or even up above the White House and no one would know. Now, he claimed that he had direct knowledge of these programs. He says
Starting point is 00:06:21 they have been used in China for years conducting intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, operations. It goes along with our spy balloon. You remember the spy balloon? He says these gravidic systems are integrated with that same network, and they form a system of surveillance that is so advanced. He says it makes our current intelligence look like carrier pigeons. So he says that these are the greatest national security threat in history. And if we do have gravitic aircraft or China does, he is absolutely right, because it would, it would be bypass every single defense system that we have. Imagine an aircraft with an unlimited payload capacity of floating fortress, invisible, undetectable, capable of delivering weapons or conducting surveillance
Starting point is 00:07:21 parked over our capital in D.C. That would be checkmate if it was true. That's the reality that this whistleblower says is there. But it also, in the manifesto, he dives into the past, into what he says is a dark chapter of the U.S. military history. He alleges involvement in war crimes during air strikes in Nimruz province in Afghanistan in 2019. According to him, 125 buildings were targeted, 65 struck, resulted in hundreds of civilian deaths in a single day. Now, he said, that the strikes continued even after civilians were spotted, knowingly, and deliberately. He calls it a cover-up. However, we do know that the United Nations invested. This event did happen, and an investigation happened with the United Nations. He says it's all a cover-up,
Starting point is 00:08:20 implicating the Department of Defense, the DEA, the CIA, and even high-ranking generals. generals. So he's not just talking about, you know, our national security of being challenged by advanced technology. He is also discussing the moral rot that comes from operating in secrecy. Even if, let's just say none of this is true, this is allowed to take root because everyone has kept too much secret and our government has lied to. us. Now, he went on to say he was, he believed he was being hunted, not just followed, but actively pursued by his own government, tracked by Homeland Security, the FBI or some other federal agency. Is that true? I don't know. Could it be? Tulsi Gabbard was on the no-fly list.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Now think of the insanity or the desperation that would lead somebody to a point to where he, prepared, you know, an IED in a vehicle. Insane, right? So who is he? Does he have any credibility? Or is he just some conspiracy theorist in the basement? Or a deeply disturbed military guy? Well, he claims to have worked with high-ranking officials, including General Miller's staff.
Starting point is 00:10:00 He even names specific operations and personnel. Those are easily verified. Now, if he's lying, it's a pretty detailed lie. If he's not, well, then are we in serious trouble? Now, my guess is he has multiple Valor Awards. So he was a special operations guy. If you have that many Valor Awards, you probably have TBI. You don't have to, but you probably had some traumatic brain injuries.
Starting point is 00:10:32 we also don't still understand what Biden's disastrous Afghanistan screw up has done mentally to our frontline war heroes. Many of them have been possibly permanently screwed up over all of this. He was being treated for PTSD. So we know that he had a mental issue of PTSD. That doesn't mean he doesn't have credibility. I know a lot of people who have PTSD. Here's the one thing we can take from this that we know for sure. Don't trust the government or the feds.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Listen to the founding fathers. They didn't want you to trust the government or the feds. They wanted you to hold them accountable. Look what they've done. to us. Our war fighters are hurting in this particular case if you know one reach out to them. But let's return here just for a second to the gravidic propulsion technology. If it's real and China is actively using it, we're not talking about a military advantage. We're talking about a shift in the balance of power so profound that it will destabilize the entire world. Remember the Cold War?
Starting point is 00:12:00 destruction, that's the balance, very delicate that kept the world from annihilating itself. This technology in the wrong hands, or even the right hands, obliterates the balance unless we have it as well. It introduces a new kind of stealth, warfare where speed, stealth, and payload capacity make any conventional deterrence absolutely worthless. us. Now, if China has this technology, should we have been told? Why haven't we been informed? Well, the whistleblower said that it's because the U.S. government has its own gravidic system, and it doesn't want to admit it. So what was his message? His plea, which I don't ever go into manifests and
Starting point is 00:12:56 uphold somebody. And I'm not upholding him and his message and saying that his message is true, except for this part. He was calling for transparency, demanding that the American people be told the truth about all of these programs and their implications. He said that secrecy
Starting point is 00:13:20 only increases the risk of catastrophic conflict, one that could escalate into global war. I heard another one this weekend. Did you see that we were already sending war machinery over to Ukraine before Ukraine was invaded by Russia? Why didn't we know that? What was the real intent? What is the real intent there?
Starting point is 00:13:50 So where does this leave us? Well, sunlight is the best disinfectant, and sunlight is coming with Donald Trump. If these technologies exist, if they're being deployed over our cities, we need to know it. Secrecy breeds corruption. Corruption leads to decisions that harm us all. This is nothing more than a wake-up call. It's a warning about the unchecked power, the risks of advanced technology, the moral cost of operating in the shadows. Whether you believe any of it or none of it, the core truth remains, we must demand accountability, transparency, and a return to the principles that made this country great.
Starting point is 00:14:40 The stakes couldn't be higher. God intervened. I really truly believe this in the last election. Now it's up to us. what are we going to do with the time that we've been given? This is the time to turn the corner and ask the hard questions and hold our leaders accountable. Let's pray that the whistleblower was wrong. But let's prepare to help this new Trump administration keep its promises.
Starting point is 00:15:12 He's going to need us very vocal to demand answers. You want answers to this? You have to be vocal, you have to be serious, and we have to be heard. You want the truth on January 6th, the COVID virus, it's cover-up, Fauci, the pharmaceutical companies, the food companies. You want trials and people who did criminal things to be tried fairly, and if they're found guilty, go to jail. How about the sex crime industry? The ditty parties, Epstein, do you want answers on that? these people are powerful. They are the most powerful people, perhaps in the history of all mankind. They're not going to go silently into the dark. They are not going to give up without a fight.
Starting point is 00:16:04 We must all resolve today on January 6, 25, that transparency is number one. Remember, Trump said they weren't trying to kill him because they were afraid of him. He told us over and over again. He was just in the way of them getting to us. They are afraid of us. That is the way the founders intended it to be. So now, beginning January 20th, it is our time to hold them accountable. Those we think are doing our bidding.
Starting point is 00:16:37 They must know we will hold them accountable and we demand answers. This is a good. the best of the Glenn Beck program. Sam Altman wrote in a tweet on X just a few days ago, six words that I think changed the world and nobody understands it. He wrote, quote, near the singularity, unclear which side. Near the singularity unclear which side, meaning we're either approaching it and are very, very close, or we've just passed the point of the singularity, and we're just on the other side. Another Open AI researcher wrote,
Starting point is 00:17:27 Miss the days when we didn't know how to create superintelligence. I want to talk to you about the singularity. The singularity is something that I have been saying we would hit by 2030. People like Ray Kurzweil said we wouldn't hit it until 2050. Many scientists said we will never hit it. That's all in the past now or shortly will be. The singularity is when Moore's Law, this is the nicest version of this, Moore's Law completely falls apart.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Moore's Law is the chip law that it will double in power every two years. That line goes from a slope of every two years, which is incredible progress, to almost now a straight line up. The singularity defeats Moore's law. I've told you in the past there will be times as we approach 2030 where it will happen, technology will change so rapidly that you won't be able to keep up with it. There will be awe-inspiring stories out every single day and you won't know the difference between truth and reality or science fiction. We are here now. The idea of the singularity is reaching that moment with technology, a point where progress accelerates so rapidly, the world will change in ways we can barely imagine.
Starting point is 00:19:04 It's the moment that humanity's technological growth moves from gradual and predictable to exponential and transformative, changing the future in ways we cannot understand. Changing the future ways our best scientists cannot understand yet. For most of human history, we have lived in a world that didn't change very much. A farmer in ancient Egypt lived surprisingly similar to the one in medieval Europe, plowed the fields, raised animals, praying for rain. It wasn't really until the 1800s with the Industrial Revolution that things started to speed up. Steam engines replaced horses, factories churned out goods faster than ever.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Railroads connected, you know, our coastlines. We could sail the oceans. But still, progress was relatively slow. A person born in 1800 would recognize much of the world in 1900, even with the addition of trains. and telegraphs. Those were things that were like, oh, wow, look at that. That's wild technology. But now, imagine someone from 1900 seeing a smartphone. They would be bewildered by much of life. In a century, we have gone from gas lamps to electric grids. We have gone from the warmth of a campfire to the warmth of SpaceX rockets that can now not only go up, but also be recaptured.
Starting point is 00:20:48 To understand the singularity and why it is so important is to tell you the story of, do you remember that old famous parable about the king and the chessboard? Have you ever heard this? I think it was, you know, this king and he was in Persia, and a poor farmer invented the game of chess. And the king was so impressed, he offered the farmer any reward he desired. And the farmer said, I just would like a single grain of rice on the first square of the chessboard. Then two grains on the second, four on the third, and so on, doubling the amount on each square.
Starting point is 00:21:32 The king agreed, thinking, well, that's rather modest. but by the 20th square, the amount of rice is over a million grains. By the 40th square, the rice is more than the world produced in a year, and the king realized too late, oh, crap, and he was ruined. That's the story of the chessboard and rice in exponential growth. Steady, small increases that suddenly snowball into something that is unimaginably vast. technology has followed this pattern. Computers were slow and bulky.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Then came microchips. Then they doubled in power every year or two, shrinking the size while growing in capability. It's why your smartphone today is millions of times more powerful than the computers that help land astronauts on the moon. Now, imagine our technological chess board, if you will, is nearing its final pieces on the board, its final squares. Instead of doubling rice, we're doubling computing power.
Starting point is 00:22:47 We're doubling artificial intelligence. Our ability to understand and manipulate the world is being doubled. And we're at one of the last chess squares. The singularity is the moment when this doubling creates a future so, radically different, that you can no longer predict what's going to happen tomorrow. Think of it this way. If the Industrial Revolution turned horses into steam engines, the digital revolution turned letters into emails,
Starting point is 00:23:23 the singularity could turn humans into something different. It's not about faster gadgets or smarter AI. It is about the possibility of technology fundamentally transforming what it means to be a human. This is so important. I've been on this bandwagon for over 30 years now. And I have begged that we look at the consequences of what is coming so we can have principled conversations of what is coming. So we can have principled conversations of what. is the meaning of life and death?
Starting point is 00:24:08 What is that meaning? What is life? We have to have those conversations because the singularity is not near, or as Ray Kurzweil said five, ten years ago, nearer, it's here. Imagine two siblings. Let's call them Anna and Leo. They're living in a near future world on the brink of the singularity. This is before the singularity.
Starting point is 00:24:36 This is right where Sam Altman, this is where we are today, where Sam Altman says we're either past it or approaching it. Anna is a doctor. She's starting to use AI tools to diagnose diseases. One day, her AI assistant discovers something remarkable, a way to slow down aging. Now, at first, just a few patients benefit, but within just a few years, treatment is affordable for everybody. suddenly people are living for 150 years, then 200 years. Entire industries, insurance, retirement, health care turned upside down. Meanwhile, her brother, Leo, works in robotics.
Starting point is 00:25:17 His team creates machines that can learn and improve themselves. One day, near the singularity, a robot invents a new kind of energy source. It's clean, unlimited, and free. overnight, poverty disappears, energy costs, plummet. Factories won 24-7. They produce food, clothing, medicine for everyone. But all the car companies are out. All the energy companies are out.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Exxon is a thing of the past. Anna and Leo, just by doing what they were doing with AI, when they approached the singularity, all of a sudden their world changed in ways that were unimaginable. overnight. The line between human and machine will blur now because we will begin to merge with technology. I'm not going to. I don't recommend it. But they are using, they will be using, X is already on this, brain implants to enhance your memory. Or in a story that also came out last week, uploading your consciousness into computers to live, quote, forever.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I read this in the age of spiritual machines in the 1990s. This is what got me into this. I thought there's no way that this is true. Ray Kurzweil told me, gosh, when I first interviewed him in maybe 2005, he said, Glenn, all you have to do is live to 2030. And I said, I said, why, you think we'll get rid of disease by then? He said, no, we'll get rid of death. I said, what do you mean by that? He said, there won't be any death. How, Ray?
Starting point is 00:27:09 How will there not be any death? We'll download you to a machine. I said, that's not life. He disagreed. He didn't believe in a soul. The singularity, the moment when change happens so fast on such a massive scale that humanity humanity steps into a new chapter of existence is here. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
Starting point is 00:27:43 John Strand is an author. He was also an attendee, if you will, of January 6th. He is writing a new book called Patriot Plee. It is out. We'll talk to him about this here in a second. But it reflects on January 6th and his life since being a political. prisoner in America. This is a guy who took the patriot plea of not guilty. So he served more time because he insisted he insisted he was not guilty. And he took a principled stand. I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:28:22 I'm not sure how many people would do that. I would hope that I would do that. But boy, I'm not sure. John Strand is joining us now, author of Patriot plea. John, how are you? Glenn, thank you so much for having me on the program. I am doing well. Just in awe of everything that's happened over the last four years that we mark on the anniversary of today, January 6th, 2025, four years later after what I call really an American Reichstag fire moment in our history. Yeah, it appears that it absolutely was that. So January 6, four years ago, what were you doing?
Starting point is 00:29:01 I was doing my job. ironically. So I was actually in my professional capacity. I'm the creative director for non-profit America's frontline doctors and also goldcare.com. And so I was working alongside of my colleague, Dr. Simone Gold, who founded frontline doctors and was speaking out at that time against COVID lockdowns and medical misinformation. So we were there part of a speaking tour along the East Coast, January 6th just happened to coincide with that. She wasn't speaking politically at that time. So her comment wasn't about the election, but of course, we supported the constitutional concern that the 2020 election was problematic. And we were absolutely shocked to see what should have been a America first
Starting point is 00:29:45 protest, as many have before, suddenly devolve into a confusing situation, which at the time was really just a couple of hours of mild confusion from our perspective. We got pushed in the building, which we didn't expect, and then we safely and calmly made our way out. And then, in the ensuing days, you know, my front door was pulverized by a battering ram, literally, 12 days later with no warning, and I was assaulted violently by 20 armed officers in a FBI swap team raid that was fit for a drug cartel in downtown Beverly Hills, and my life was shattered and has never been the same ever since. John, you were there on the stairs. You know, I think it's very different to see it now on video the way I watched it.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Then from your perspective, you said that it was relatively confusing, but not what, you know, it turned out to be or what they claimed it to be. You were pushed in. What did they charge you with? What did they say you did? So they said a lot of things. The actual legal charges are 1512C2. That's a 20-year felony for, quote, unquote, obstruction of justice.
Starting point is 00:31:00 But the actual title is tampering with a witness. evidence or informant, which of course has nothing to do with my conduct or even the context of the day. And yet ironically, is exactly what Liz Cheney did committing a criminal felony offense in tampering with a witness on the J6 committee and obstructing and deleting evidence. So there's an incredible irony there. But my legal charges were 1512C2 a felony, which I was vindicated and defeated at the Supreme Court, along with four misdemeanors related to being at the building. and protest activity, essentially. So they charged me with those five charges totaling 23 years of potential prison
Starting point is 00:31:43 and then offered me a golden parachute plea deal. If I would just bend the knee to the government and sign their confession, then I would only have a single misdemeanor and it all would have been done behind me two years ago. I never would have gone to prison or a week maybe. and I would have had a normal life, sort of. So what went through your head when they said,
Starting point is 00:32:10 just plead guilty? I know me, I would say absolutely not. But if I was looking at a 23-year-old, a 23-year prison sentence, I know pretty much everybody in my family and myself, too, would be like, I'll be away from my children for 23 years. I can't, I just want this to go away. Did you have that struggle?
Starting point is 00:32:38 Yeah, Glenn, it's an impossible choice. I'll be honest with you, though. I didn't have that struggle in the sense that I tell people, this was the most painful decision I ever made. And when you read the book and learn what they did to me in prison, you'll know what I mean. It was beyond painful. It was torture, actually.
Starting point is 00:32:54 And J-Sixers, our lives have been decimated. So it was the most painful choice I've ever made. But Glenn, it was the simplest and easiest choice I ever had to make from the standpoint of crystal clarity that this was right and wrong. This was good and evil. And I had to stand up for what was right. I had to fight for what is good. And I had to fight against a weaponized government, my own government, hijacked and corrupted absolutely evil weaponization. And I had to fight against that.
Starting point is 00:33:22 But that's the choice that I made. God delivered me and vindicated me at the Supreme Court. And he's continuing to honor that choice now. Let me just, as an aside, say to the listener, have you listened to these two gentlemen, our last guest, and now, John, they are nothing like what the media would have you believe these guys would sound like. Reasonable, rational, intelligent, and decent. John, I'd love to have you back on. Maybe let me have our producers talk. Maybe I can get you back on tomorrow because I'd like to go in depth on what happened to you in prison.
Starting point is 00:34:07 But can you take us just a short visit into what happened to you? Yes, real quickly, Glenn, I want to comment on something because I've heard you reference the idea of violent versus nonviolent offenders or nonviolent J-6ers. And I posted on X that I think this is really a dog whistle to swallow the leftist narrative. And it's so important to understand what happened, what didn't happen, how it happened, and why it happened. Was there violence on January 6th? Well, I mean, of course there was. But to say a nonviolent J6er is a misnomer, the vast majority, if really not, the totality of any conflict and violence that occurred on January 6 was set up. We were entrapped.
Starting point is 00:34:52 It was instigated and provoked by police misconduct violation of use of force protocols. This is documented extensively. And so the conflict that ensued even when there were scuffles with police officers. And we are sad about that. We grieve over any harm to a police officer. That is not what we want. We don't honor or protect that. But what I'm saying is that the vast majority of violence and even police conflict was instigated by the government against unarmed protesters.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Self defense is not violence. I agree with that. And I agree with that. But I look at the people who are dressed in black masks, who were breaking out the windows, who did appear to have a violent or at least a destructive intent. Those people I separate from the people who walked in may have been caught up in a crowd where you're being crushed. and, you know, police are just deeming all of you bad guys and are, you know, violating their own protocols. I think there's a very big difference between that and the people who went in with an intent to destroy. And you can just look at the people at the front of the Capitol, just breaking the windows, they had intent to destroy. I agree, but I don't think most of those people, if any of them, have been charged. That is just remarkable.
Starting point is 00:36:23 So where are you today mentally? Go ahead. Just going to say the instigators primarily were disguised, masked, masked, undercover. And they are not the ones rotting in prison. It is the innocent, unarmed citizens that are rotting in prison right now. Where do you stand, you know, I've changed so much. How old are you, John? Oh, I plead the fifth on that.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I'm an actor, so I never give my age away. I will tell you that I've changed so much in the last 25 years. I was red, white and blue, just, you know, flag-waving. Our country, you know, is fantastic. And we've done some wrong, but let's, you know, move on to somebody that really does not waive the flag for anything of the government,
Starting point is 00:37:16 but the principles that we try, we hope we can follow and make a more perfect, union tomorrow, but I've lost faith in everything. I don't trust the FBI. I don't trust justice. I just don't trust any of it anymore, which is a huge change in me. Where were you on January 20th, or January 6th, mentally? And compare that to before the election, if there was a difference, and today, if there was a difference? I would say I was confirmed in my beliefs. So on January 6th, I knew without a doubt the election was stolen.
Starting point is 00:37:59 It was illicit. It was rigged. There's plenty of evidence now to indicate that along multiple lines. But we should not flinch or recede from what we know to be true. So on January 6th, I knew. Quite honestly, I don't think to honestly question, to honestly question, question to ask honest and real questions that are very unpopular, you should never recede. As long as they're honest, they have to be asked.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Go ahead. Exactly. That's really the whole point of America, that we honor and protect the individual citizen and their sovereignty, their freedom of thought, certainly their freedom of speech and of choice and of association and assembly. All of those things are sacred, and they are all under attack. I will agree with you, Glenn. My faith in our institutions has been shaken.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I do not forget the FBI. It should be abolished. The Department of Justice is so wicked, as I know from personal experience now, that it needs, I mean, we need a Department of Justice, but the current one needs to be raised to the ground. And I really mean raise. There is so little that is functional and certainly ethical. We have to really examine deeply in our souls who we are as a people in a country and what went wrong with these institutions.
Starting point is 00:39:16 It's been going wrong for much more than 10. or even 50 years. So the book that I wrote Patriot Plee is really an examination of who is America, who are we as Americans, what do we believe, and what unites us as a republic, because the republic is united and oriented around a centralized entity or thing of some kind. So in our country, that's this ideal, that liberty and justice is for all. But that is predicated on the beginning statement that we are one nation under God. We've lost that in this country. We have divorced, forced ourselves from God. And because of that, we have lost moorings to anything objective, reasonable, and concrete. And so now we have chaos. And that is by design. That is what the
Starting point is 00:40:01 enemies are inflicting on us to undermine our foundations. And that's now seen in a corrupted justice system, a weaponized Gestapo, FBI, and everything else that's going on. And I agree with you that we are in a perilous position, credible faith and optimism in God and the truth of his word in the Bible, the Judeo-Christian Foundation, that was our original starting point in this nation that we must return to, that God would then heal our land. If we humble ourselves, seek his face, pray, and turn from the wickedness of our ways. And I believe in that as a people, and we the people, are supposed to choose our leaders and form our government. And we have a huge reclamation project to begin on. And that's what I hope to inspire people with.
Starting point is 00:40:50 John, I'm going to talk to my producers. I'll try to get you on tomorrow as well. I'd like to go a little deeper in this. I think you're right. You're very well spoken. The name of the book is Patriot Plee. And you can get it now at John Strand.com. That's John Strand. Dot com.
Starting point is 00:41:09 My journey as a political prisoner in the divided states of America. Patriot plea, John Strand.com. Thank you, John. Appreciate it. Talk to you again. Thank you so much. Thank you. Go ahead.
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