The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Joseph Edlow | 10/6/25

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Portland, Oregon, is officially lawless. When you have the cartel coming out and calling for the deaths of ICE agents and getting away with it, justice has vanished. President Trump has the authority to call on the National Guard to address crime in certain circumstances, and Glenn believes that Portland, Oregon, falls under this category. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Joseph Edlow joins to discuss the rampant immigration fraud occurring in America. Glenn and Stu discuss how a Virginia gubernatorial candidate worked at a Saudi Arabia-funded Islamic school after 9/11.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today's podcast is great. We don't do a lot of Mr. Bunny talk, unfortunately. We'll have to get to that later as we approach the Super Bowl. But we did, we started at a place where I wanted to take politics out of the issue of the National Guard in Chicago. I agree with the idea of not using soldiers, but only, only if you get rid of the notion that the ends justify the means. We have to talk about what's actually happening on the ground and what our response. responsibility to the Constitution is. Also, Joseph Edlo is with us. He runs the Department of Immigration Services that actually is going in and rooting out all of the corruption. He just finished a project

up in Minnesota that shows people are marrying their nieces and nephews, and it is ugly up there. He'll give you the full detail. And the Virginia governor candidate worked at an Islamic school right after 9-11. But who amongst us, you know, hasn't held hands with Hamas? I mean, besides me and probably you. But maybe the next governor of Virginia, that and so much more on today's podcast. Let me tell you about Relief Factor. It's time to stop letting pain set the agenda for your life. Relief Factor is a doctor-formulated drug-free supplement designed to support the body's natural response to inflammation, the root of many of our aches and pains and the stiffness and everything else. This is not about masking symptoms for an hour. It's about helping your body find a

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Now let's get to work. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Recently, one was by the Justice Department, along with the Health and Human Services. I talked to Dr. Oz about this Friday. You can probably find that podcast someplace. But I talked to him about this Friday, and it was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen.

They came out with the Justice Department, and they said, we're shutting down a Russian ring that was defrauding Medicare of $15 billion. $15 billion, and they said it's the tip of the iceberg. It was incredible, and I've never heard anybody talk about it. The second fraud investigation that I was stunned by and so happy to see was when Joseph Edlo, who is the citizenship and immigration services director, was in Minneapolis. And he started talking about how immigration fraud, fake marriages and everything else, how it is rampant in the system. And he started in Minneapolis, found all kinds of stuff.

and said, we're going city after city after city on this. Who could be against stopping fraud? Well, I don't know, but certainly not me. Joseph Edlo is with us now, who has been directing this on immigration fraud. Thank you, Joe, for everything that you guys are doing. Thank you, thank you. Well, thank you. And thank you for having me.

Really appreciate the opportunity to be here. So can you tell me what you found in Minneapolis? And why did you start in Minneapolis? Well, we started in Minneapolis for a lot of reasons, mainly because we were looking at various fraud patterns that we've seen. We know that there is rampant fraud, as you said, within the system. And looking at our data, one of the cities that had the largest examples of it was Minneapolis, plus we have great cooperation there with our partners at FBI, with ICE, and with the U.S.

Attorney's Office. So we want to make a big splash. And we thought, what better place to make a big splash than a place where we can maybe prosecute some cases after we find the fraud. So that's why we started there. What we found, I can't even begin to tell you how many examples of fraud in various areas of immigration we found. I mean, I expected marriage fraud. I expected some fraud in those trying to naturalize and become citizens. I did not expect the amount of fraud we found within the optional practical training program where students who have graduated.

are able to stay in country for a couple more years to work. We found fake businesses. We found fraud within the H-1B program where someone came in saying they were in some high-skilled career. It turns out they're acting as a caregiver. Not saying that's not important, but that's not the basis for an H-1B fraud. We found marriage fraud where someone was saying that their spouse was dead. They apparently had paid money for a death certificate in Kenya.

The mother is actually alive. And as I said in the press conference, living in Minneapolis, has five children. And the alien also has another wife in Sweden with another three children. So we're finding all sorts of things. Bottom line is this has to stop. As I said in the conference, we are declaring an all-out war on marriage fraud, on immigration fraud. And I'm going to restore integrity to the system. How common is it in the Somali community to, you know, quote,

marry a relative? You know, we've got examples of it through in many different nationality groups of ethnic nationalities, but, you know, we have seen in Minneapolis many examples of marriage fraud within that Somali community. You know, there are a lot of active investigations pending on that matter. I don't want to get into specifics on any one of them, but we, we are looking into it and we're going to end it. Is there anyone in a high level congressional that is being looked into? Nobody's off the table.

I can't say that there's any one person that we are specifically looking at, but there are fraud investigations that will continue. And depending on what comes up, those findings will be. become public as we develop what the next steps are going to be. So are you guys finding the same kind of pushback that ICE is at all? Yeah, sure. You know, we did a number of site visits. The outward facing part of this investigation of this, excuse me, this operation was done with door knocks. And we would go out. We obviously, officer safety would be paramount, but we're not, at this point, USCIS does not have armed officers.

We're going out to ask questions. People were not some, many people were not willing to answer. Many people thought that we were not legitimate law enforcement. So they called the police on us. Minneapolis police isn't exactly helpful, but they did come in these cases and confirmed that we are who we said we were. But certainly there's pushback. And I think if you saw any part of my press conference with the questions that I got

from the media out there, yeah, there was a lot of pushback as to why we're doing it. And what I don't understand is why anyone looks at immigration fraud through any lens that is, that it's less troubling than something like IRS fraud. I said in the conference, if we were here announcing a major, a major breakthrough in tax fraud, we'd be applauded nationwide by everyone, saying that we were saving the taxpayers' money and that we were doing the right thing. why is this any different when we're trying to enforce another type of law like immigration law? So who are the bad guys here? The people applying, the people who are advising those who are applying,

or the people who are taking the applications in our own government? Well, no, it's not the people taking the applications. I mean, we have a very robust program to find those in the government or in my agency here who are not acting above board. And we can suss that out very, very quickly. The issue here are, it's a combination of those that are preparing the applications, the lawyers that are advising, and in some cases, in many cases, the aliens who are entering into these fraudulent marriages. I mean, it really gets down to, are we talking on a case-by-case basis about a case

where the attorney filed something and the alien had no idea that it was filed? Or are we talking about a case where the alien was 100% involved in the fraud? We're finding both. So what is the remedy for that? It's different depending on the type of fraud that we're looking at. In one case, it's going to be denial of the benefits and referral to the immigration courts for ultimate deportation if the alien has no other right to be here, which, let's be honest, if they commit marriage fraud and any other types of fraud, they shouldn't have any other rights to be here. but if we but in the cases where we are seeing large scale fraud patterns I want to make sure that those attorneys are facing the consequences that those non-attorney preparers are facing the

consequences and that requires coordination with the u.s. attorneys offices with ice with FBI to see if there's larger investigations out there and and that's what we're going to keep doing do you believe that there is any kind of large scale uh coordination I don't think it's nationwide coordination. I do think there are large-scale fraud patterns out there that we have not had as a government either the interest or the resources to investigate. So to that end, I don't know if you saw, but USCIS now has the authority to hire investigators, special agents who are actually going to be going out there specifically to look at fraud of this magnitude. Additionally, we're also starting now a massive hiring campaign where we are looking to bring in new adjudicators, which we will train.

No college degree is required. There's going to be signing bonuses for certain and retention bonuses for certain openings. And there's going to be some flexible duty locations for these openings. But we are looking to really make this system work. And I will hire whatever and whoever I need to make sure that we have the resources to investigate. these fraud patterns and to take the appropriate action. What qualifications do you need to work or to apply? Well, you apply and then we will determine, but really there's no prior experience needed.

Like I said, no college degree. We have the training. We know how to train people. So as long as you're a U.S. citizen have a clean record and can have a, have the ability to analyze in a meaningful way, we're looking at you. So we're hoping we've got a lot of applications out there already, and we want everyone to apply. We've renamed the position where we're looking for homeland defenders. That's what we're looking for here. We're looking for people here who are going to come in to ensure that we are keeping the homeland safe. They will be adjudicating.

They will be looking at cases for people looking for green cards, for naturalization. And we want to make sure that they're looking at it through the right lens. And you would apply, I would assume, at USCIS? USCIS.us.us.us.us.us.us.org. And if you go to USCIS.gov forward slash join, there's a website that will give you all the information on the positions on any upcoming job fairs. And really, we are trying here. And I have a mandate. We will be cutting through the red tape. I'm not interested in, you know, a year-long hiring process. I want to get these people in, trained, and working across the country as

soon as possible. And what, can you say which cities you're looking at next? I'll be honest, I'd prefer not to at this point. There are two or three cities that I've already had interest. I got to call the day of the press conference from a U.S. attorney in another city saying, Joe, come to me next. We're ready to work on this. So, you know, there's cities out there that that are looking forward to this. and we're excited to bring this show nationwide and really show what this agency does, what it can do, and how we can make this system better. The last four years were a total disaster. I don't have to tell you that when it comes to immigration integrity. We were left with a complete, complete mess on our hands, and this is one of the major, major ways that we're going to clean up that mess, that we're going to unravel the knot of the legal

immigration system. This is not about preventing anyone from immigrating here. This is about ensuring that the right people are and that there is, as I keep saying, integrity in the system. Fraud will not be accepted any longer. I love it. Joseph Edlo, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. You bet. Joseph Edlo is a U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service Director. If you want to work, UScIS.gov, what did he say slash something rather? I don't remember. But you'll be able to find it. What was it? Join. Let me tell you about Jace Medical. It's late. The pharmacy is closed. Someone in your house just needs medicine right now. Fever is spiking infection, turning up the heat. In that moment you realize how fragile your access to life-saving medication can really be. Stu did this. He was on vacation and had to drive around in the middle of the night all over town trying to find a pharmacy that was open. If you have a Jace case, which he carries now, every time he goes on vacation because of what he went through, You don't have to worry about that.

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Get a discount on it now. Promocode, Bech, Jace.com. Now, back to the podcast. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. I want to talk to you, I want to talk to you. I'm going to start with Chicago, but I think this goes through line for everything we're going to talk about on today. podcast and broadcast. Portland is lawless now. It is lawless.

That's a fact. When you now have the governor coming out and saying, I don't believe ICE, I don't believe that there was some woman that was trying to kill them, when Chicago calls the police back and says you're not to help protect federal agents, when you have now cartels coming out with wanted posters offering rewards for ICE agents death. You're in a lawless situation, completely lawless. There are those who wish to destroy Western civilization.

We're not talking about the people who wanted to vote for Joe Biden because they thought his policies were better than Donald Trump's. We're not talking about that. We are talking about people who actually wish to destroy our nation and our civilization. One of those groups is called Antifa. They're well financed by the left. Now that seems nuts, but no more nuts than the Occupy Wall Street leadership being in bed with Wall Street and the World Economic Forum. That's a fact. That's why that's stopped.

You have to understand the world that we live. live in right now. This is not just about America and it's certainly not about Democrats and Republicans. This is about good and evil right and wrong. The America that believes in its citizens, the America that has a government

of by and for the people is at stake. And as Lincoln said, we are testing that now of whether that any nation this nation or any nation can long well stand. I believe it can. Now, extremists in our own country have cobbled together any enemies of that idea to disrupt the system, to collapse it.

Those who hold power and wealth and position globally believe they can escape the consequences of setting the world on fire. They have built a giant elaborate system to have this fall into when it collapses and make no mistake. you must open your eyes and realize this is what is happening. Now, maybe they can escape the consequences. I don't think so, but maybe they can. I mean, you paid the price in 2008 during the crash, right? You paid for that. They didn't.

You paid the price during COVID. Home Depot didn't. You did. They didn't. So maybe they can escape. But I don't think they know what they're, they're doing because when you open this can, evil comes pouring out. And they use both of those events and events like George Floyd. All of these things were uniting to the American people.

We were all on the same side until somebody came in and made it about politics to keep us fighting with one another. So I want to start with a blank slate here. Before I get into Chicago and everything else, I want to start with this blank slate. I want to ask you, we, we're where you have been in the last 25 years, okay? I want you to answer honestly, 25 years ago, 20, 25 years ago, were you for transgender surgery on children? Yes or no? Were you four drag queen shows in elementary schools? Yes or no?

Were you for lockdowns and forced vaccines? Ten years ago. If I suggested that, what would you have said? I want people on the left and the right to answer. Government partnering with big global corporations to pick winners and losers. Were you for that? Killing of political opponents because they disagree with you. were you for that?

Were you for police brutality such as the death of George Floyd? Were you for that? Governments being in bed with big tech to silence opposition. Violence on the streets. Just for political opinion. Criminals let out of jail. No bail. No real prosecution for crime.

Wide open borders and letting 10 million unvetted into our country. 25 years ago, were you for that? Turning a blind eye to terrorists from another country in our homeland. Unchecked. The setting up of Sharia law in major cities in America, like Dearborn, saying that one's political opponent should be killed along with their children. Ten years ago, 15 years ago, would you have said, I'll vote for that person.

The rounding of people, just because you're brown or your black, rounding them up on the streets and just saying, papers, please. Were you for that? Cartels issuing wanted posters for law enforcement and offers of reward for their death. You for that? Were you for that? The doxing of anyone. All personal information just dumped out online for political purposes.

were you for that? Were you for communism? And let me define communism, government ownership of land, housing, and business. Were you for that? Authoritarianism, let me define it.

A strong man dictator without American constitutional restraints such as the Bill of Rights, and I mean all of the Bill of Rights. Were you for that? Fascism, let me define it. the government in partnership with big business that allows ownership but picks the winners and losers

and only allows businesses to act in ways dictated by the government. Were you for that? You for firebombing of churches or mosques or synagogues. Were you for the fire bombing of abortion clinics? Were you for the fire bombing of abortion doctors? were you for the targeting of abortion doctors? Were you for the targeting of any American citizen? Were you for light sentences for somebody who's trying to kill the Supreme Court justices?

25 years ago were you for putting men in women's sports? Putting men in women prisons? 25 years ago were you for anything? The ends justify the means. Just do it. you for that. Well, if you weren't for those things, and I mean this sincerely, I want you to call me right now if you're for any of them now, and tell me what changed your mind. What new information did you get that changed your mind? And I will not accept, yeah, well, but Trump, nor will I accept,

yeah, but Biden in the left, that's what, no, I won't accept that. That puts you into the ends, justify the means. And they don't, ever, ever, ever, ever, they don't. What evidence was given to you that changed your mind? You can't use Trump or any acts from the other side to justify it. And if you can't justify the things that you are now for that you were not then, well, you're most likely mad at me right now. You're most likely feeling really angry right now. Why? Because all I'm doing is asking, I want to learn from you. How did you get there? How did you get there? Where's the anger coming from? If you won't even have this conversation, why? Is that anger or these feelings or this unwillingness to connect and say, no, look, let me defend my situation. Let me defend myself here in a very reasonable

and calm manner. Let me tell you how I changed my mind and I used to think that, you know, drag shows were wrong in elementary schools, but I do believe they're good now. for our children. Tell me how you got there because I think it's through careful conditioning. Now, now that we're in this neutral-ish place, hopefully, let's talk about, with reason, the use of soldiers in our cities. Because I've never been for that. And I'm still not for soldiers executing the law. in our cities. But constitutionally, there are a couple of things. But I think that's a reasonable thing to say.

Let's discuss those things. Are we there? This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Jordan Peterson's daughter has just issued a really heartfelt, tearful health update on Jordan Peterson, her dad. Do we have a clip of that? We can play quickly. Hey guys, I have an update on my dad. I'm actually just going to read this. It's on my teleprompter because this is too hard to explain off the cuff, so I wrote it out. This summer has been exceedingly

difficult. Dad was in an ICU suffering from pneumonia and sepsis after dealing with a host of neurological issues this summer that we believe stem from SERS, which is chronic inflammatory response syndrome due to decades of mold exposure. We don't have a better explanation for his neurological symptoms at the moment other than spiritual attacks. He's been suffering for the last number of years with unexplainable neuropathy and weakness amongst other symptoms, but they worsened this summer after he cleaned out his parents' basement after his dad, my grandpa passed away. We weren't able to communicate with dad really all of September. During the end of the pneumonia, He was diagnosed with critical illness polyneuropathy, which we're hoping is critical illness myopathy,

which is bad enough. That's been heartbreaking and brutal on top of everything else. But after almost a month in the ICU, he's been moved out to a less urgent floor. Praise God for that. We're still in the midst of this, but now we're seeing improvements daily. The timeline for his full recovery is hard to tell at the moment, and I'll update everyone when we have more information. My family's asking for prayers.

Like I said, this summer's been exceedingly difficult and terrifying. Dad's condition is complicated by the fact he can't take most medications without suffering from severe paradoxical reactions which limits treatment options. Like I mentioned, I believe there's a spiritual element at play here.

I think a lot of people have felt it in the last few weeks and months. It's been hitting my dad and my family hard this summer. In August, the day Dad was brought to a hospital by ambulance, my newborn Audrey was also brought to a hospital by ambulance within hours of each other. It was unbelievable. This was the second time this summer we had brought Audrey to the hospital after she almost died from near heart failure at six weeks old that is exceedingly rare and they couldn't find a cause for.

But mom and I in particular really wanted to reach out and ask for prayer to help everyone get through this, especially for my dad and for my mom, but also for the nurses and doctors taking care of him, my brother and family and friends who have come to support us. I miss my dad. My brother misses his dad. My mom misses her best friend and husband.

And given we think there's a spiritual element at play here, we believe the right way to fight back is to keep going and push harder, if anything. The world is in spiritual warfare, like crazy. I would ask that you would pray as if we were in a world war because we are. It's a spiritual world war.

And I would pray for those who are on the front lines. Pray for your country. Pray for your constitution and bill of rights like you've never prayed before. But you're seeing some of the most powerful voices taken out one by one. Jordan, I hope, is going to get better. We have Dennis Prager, who broke his neck and is paralyzed and making some progress.

And he at least can still think and speak. But that just happened in the last few months. We have Charlie Kirk. And I believe all of us are under spiritual attack. Please pray for those who are on the front lines. Please pray. All right. Let me go back to Virginia here for a second because there's some more information that you need to know about, if you're a Virginia, especially, about who Spanberger is.

And you need to know this as somebody watching. the Virginia election to see how people are going to deal with this and how they vote. Does truth matter? Do principles matter anymore? You know, I want to take you back to the time after 9-11. If you remember that moment in our country's history, people had some pretty strong feelings. You know, there's some economic worries that was going on after that. Maybe you're looking for an extra job. You want to pick up an extra job. Right. So Abigail decided to do that. The job that she picked up was at the ISA, which she... The ISA is...

Well, it was, it's a school. She wanted to work at a school. She wanted to educate kids, which is great. She wanted to work... Why is this irrelevant today? It's all we have time for today. No, we have plenty of time. What is the ISA?

Well, the ISA is, well, you know, there's... There were, you know, a lot of schools. Just spin. United States that were that were Islamic schools. Okay, Islamic school. Okay. This is the only one in the United States that was fully funded by a foreign government. You might think.

Now, it wouldn't be Saudi Arabia after 9-11, right? I mean, it's probably England, right? No, it was Saudi Arabia. But the point there is that the hijackers all came from Saudi Arabia. Well, sure. Okay. Sure. All right.

You know, but in that moment, we were all like, you know, there was almost a furor around, hey, Saudi Arabia is fantastic. Yeah, I don't think so. Islamic schools are wonderful. That was kind of the vibe at the time, if you remember. Right. Right. Correct. Right. It wasn't. Now, I will say, you know, who among us have not taken a job immediately after 9-11

at a school that is closely tied to Hamas? We all did that at that time. No, I don't know anybody who did that. Well, yes, you do. You know Abigail Spambris. I can never say her. Spanberger. I want to call her Asperger every time. I don't know why. Spanberger. Top leader of Hamas sent his children to this school. The school's comptroller was linked to Hamas. It's all from just the news. Recent graduates of the school had come under suspicion by federal authorities of potentially seeking to carry out a suicide attack in Israel. The school's textbooks contained hateful language, including animosity toward non-Muslims and, of course, Jews in

particular. The ISA had withdrawn from membership in a major accreditation organization. Is this school in Virginia? I think it is. That's a good question. Go back and look through our archives, probably 2,000-6-ish. Okay. We were looking into Islamic schools in Virginia, and we named one that was riddled with problems. Could it have been this one? It sounds like this one. Well, I mean, But how would you even know it was tied to the Saudi government? I mean, you used to the ISA. Okay, yeah. You're like, well, that's sure the Islamic something academy.

But we don't know what the S would stand for. What could stand for? I'm guessing Saudi? Oh my gosh, you guessed it on the first try. That's incredible. That's a lot. I mean, you can't expect her to do that. No, that was you pulling, going through the dictionary in the S section, pointing to a word happened to be Saudi.

That's all you just did. You know, it's weird, Stu, because somebody who says, somebody who is somebody who is involved in a school that is pumping out Hamas members and tightly associated with Hamas. Didn't the head of Hamas go to school there? What was that? Maybe I'm thinking of a different school. But anyway, the idea of let your rage fuel you and being acceptant of things like, you know, kill your opponent's family. because that's the only thing that moves people politically makes a little more sense.

It does. It does sort of line with someone who might do some of these things. She did, by the way, said she's proud of her background and her service. Even though it was found to be directly related to Hamas. Maybe she was improving the school's lunch program. We don't know what she did. She could have done anything there. It could have been, it could have wonderful work. Maybe she was able to make it a little.

bit more healthy, more greens provided for the children of the Hamas members. That went there. Or allegedly, allegedly. So I don't know. I think a lot of this is overblown. You know, everyone. Just the news. Who among, let me ask this. Yeah. Who among us have not supported someone in their lives who wish death on the children of their enemies for political gain? We've all done that. We've all. No, I don't know anybody who has done that. that. Well, you know Abigail Svambor. Again, I don't know her. I wouldn't vote for her, but

I know of her, yeah. So a lot of people know of her. So I guess we all have someone. We all know someone. If you're listening to this show, you now know someone who did all of these things. So congratulations on that one. So what do you do with a state

that elects the attorney general who says you've got to kill the family of the children to change his political mind. It is not remorseful on it. A governor that is running that agrees with him, at least quietly, doesn't really distance herself and says, let your rage fuel you. What do you, working at that school?

What do you do with that if that's what Virginia decides they want as their, I mean, It's kind of like New York going communist. So, Mom Donnie, right? And I thought about that because it's an interesting example. You know, it's like, there's a story in the New York Times as we can entitled this. What happens when socialists are in charge, question mark? Portland offers a glimpse.

Now, is that really the commercial you want to run for your socialist candidate right now? Probably not going to make it into the, uh, the ad campaign for Mom. I'd guess, considering, you know, Antifa is taken over the streets every night for a hundred consecutive nights. Yeah, it does give you a glimpse of what it looks like if you put a social... 104. Sorry. I mean, I missed the anniversary. Yeah. And this one goes into how they've put actual DSA members on their city council after they... Seattle. They made it larger. Anyway, what's interesting about that is like, I don't know. Portland is Portland, right? Portland is Portland. Portland is... is Portland. The dream of the 90s is still alive in Portland. It's, it's, and the dream of the very early 90s, meaning like before the actual Soviet Union collapsed. Yeah. That dream is still alive in Portland. Yes, it is.

Not surprised, right? Virginia currently has a really good governor who is a Republican doing a really good job currently right now. This isn't like Portland who can't even imagine a conservative, or a Republican being in charge. Right now, things are going well in Virginia currently. And right now they're talking about changing to the party of this. They don't need to. It's still available. It's not even a memory.

It's a current thing. He's done a really good job, Yonkin there. Sears is good. She's a great job as a governor. Gosh, she would be good. And because of this, the only reason this is even a question, is because of their weird one-term law where you can only run get one term and then you have to leave. So you can only have four years.

Yonkin is term limited here. He would win, I think, re-election easily. But one term is ridiculous. I think one term is ridiculous. It seems like two is fine. Two terms seems like the right number. One is weird because what likely will happen here is you'll get four years of somebody else and then Yonkin will come back and try to run again. So it's a weird, it's just a strange system.

and I don't know that it feels like you're always campaigning. But I guess that's our modern world. But again, like, this isn't some distant memory. It's not even a distant memory like it is in New York where they have had real success in New York for limited periods of time. Almost all of them associated with Republican mayors. Almost? I mean, I'm trying to think of an exception. I just don't want to be too broad.

Yeah, I can't. But like the Giuliani period, even the Bloomberg period, who is really, he was a really, he was a, Republican, but they was kind of an independent, you know, but like really was kind of a Democrat, honestly, most of the time. Yeah. But still, just someone who wasn't insane. And then you have the examples of when they did have really far leftist, DeBosio, Dinkins, these were catastrophes. And they're going to do it again. And they're going to do it again. And they're going to do it again. It's, but, Virginia, you can still stop this. You don't have to go down this road. You can still save yourselves. And they're like, you know,

Spanberger. I don't know why I have a mental block in her name. You're just because you're thinking. That's what you're thinking. I don't know what I'm thinking. Yeah. But she currently, according to Cali-Money Market, has about a 93% chance to win that election. Unbelievable. Now, I will say some encouraging news, sort of, in the Attorney General race, Jay Jones, who is about 90% since the scandal broke is now down

to 53%. So there's only 53% of... He's still the favorite, but only a slight favorite. Unbelievable.