The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Mike Rowe | 2/22/22

Episode Date: February 22, 2022

Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to discuss Russia, Canada, and alternative food sources. In honor of George Washington’s birthday, Glenn shares some lessons from Washington that can apply today in the ...fight for our country. Host of "The Way I Heard It" and "Dirty Jobs" Mike Rowe joins Glenn to discuss the current state of America regarding COVID and the unemployment rate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:17 is there for you. Hey, great podcast today for you. We celebrate Washington's birthday with a little
Starting point is 00:00:24 story that I think everybody gets wrong. We also talk about what's happening in Russia. I don't know what's happening in Russia. Don't worry. They're just robbing the front room and the living room, but those are pro-burglar rooms. So it's going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:00:43 And the one and the only Mike Roe joins us. Make sure to subscribe and rate and review the podcast, as well as Studio's America, both available right here on your podcast platform. And don't forget to subscribe to Blaze TV at BlazTV.com slash Glenn. The promo code is Glenn to save 10 bucks. Here's the podcast. listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Explain to Americans what exactly will they face if this happened. Sure. As the president talked about in his speech, we are aware that, again, when America stands for her principles and all of the things that we hold dear, it requires sometimes
Starting point is 00:01:32 for us to put ourselves out there in a way that maybe we will incur some cost. And in this situation, that may relate to energy costs, for example. Oh, okay, all right. But we are taking very specific and appropriate, I believe, steps to mitigate. You know, the little people are going to have to pay the costs of this. And, you know, if it just, darn it, it happens to be fossil fuels. Ah, shoot. But we're going for our principal.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Shut up. You don't even know what our principles are. I'm tired of you talking about our principles. because you despise American principles. No. Yes, you do. Yes, you too. And I am,
Starting point is 00:02:17 Stu just said to me a minute ago, I'm offended by them using the word principles. They don't have, they have none. None. They have none. So Pat Gray is joining us here from Pat Gray unleashed. Pat, I don't know if you saw not only is energy costs going up now because of what,
Starting point is 00:02:38 what we're doing with Putin. But farmers yesterday, they came out with the cost of just the increase of cost of running a farm. And that's bad for farmers. But really, I'm glad it doesn't affect us because. Oh, yeah. It's only the farmers. You know, I feel bad for the farmers. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:58 But this will be fine for us. Yeah, it'd be fine. Contract labor up 45.1%. Fertilizer. This chart says, 18, the fertilizer that most farmers use just this last weekend, it was reported, is going up 300%. Why? Because of the next thing. LP gas, 220026.7% increase. Maintenance is 89% increase. Seeds, 30% increase. Insurance, 33% increase. So what's it going to do?
Starting point is 00:03:38 They're going to eat all that costs, though, for us. That'll be great. They're so rich. Yeah. They can do anything. I'm telling you, support your local farmers. Yeah. Support your local farmers.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Let me show you something I found in Costco, going shopping in Costco. Give me this. This is, saw this, thought it was a misprint. Actually, ask the butcher. That can't be right. Those two stakes are $99. What? This steak is.
Starting point is 00:04:08 is, what does it say there? $221. It's not Wagu, is it? It's Wagu. It is. Yeah. But $221. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:16 For one steak? For one steak. That's a lot. That's a lot. Not even cooked. I mean, that stuff a pound is like $180 a pound or something. Now, it's $221 a pound now. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Yeah. Okay. So it's gone up just a little bit. So probably to be buying not as many of those steaks as I usually do? I'm telling you you're going to be eating bugs. You are. Have you noticed this point? push for bug eating? The bug eating is big.
Starting point is 00:04:40 It is. For a couple years now, they've been hammering that bugs are a lot of protein. They're so you know, if you put them in some olive oil, they're delicious. Everybody keeps laughing about it. You're kind of weird for not wanting to eat them. Is their attitude? Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And yes, we are laughing because it's completely ridiculous. And Americans aren't going to eat bugs. The Americans will eat bugs if that's the only thing you have. Listen to this. So there's a trans, uh, there's a trans, uh, transition period that may be brutal to some. That's why we have to harness the economic productivity through nature-based solutions. This is a quote from a new book out by Charles,
Starting point is 00:05:22 not Charles Schwab, Klaus Schwab. Klaus Schwab is the leader of the Great Reset. So he just put this out and he said, you know, we're going to have to have nature-based solutions because things are going to be too expensive. That's why we'll have alternative food protein sources like beans and bugs. It's terrible. You eat the damn bugs. Yeah. Yeah, be my guest.
Starting point is 00:05:51 People have got to wake up. They think that this is all a joke. They think that that's too crazy to happen. What hasn't been too crazy that has happened recently? And look at the farm increases you're talking about. Their cost of doing business and growing crops. Putting them out. Putting them out.
Starting point is 00:06:09 They'll go out of business if they don't raise their prices. They will. They're going to have to raise the prices. Except for corn in Iowa, which I guess has really fertile land, they're saying now, because of the price of fertilizer going up, that we will have a 40% yield of what we normally have. 40% yield. That's not good. that's not good that's not good suboptimal you'd call it
Starting point is 00:06:36 yeah I would and then you have what's going on you go that far I go to suboptimal wow really I hate to get the emotions yeah I know I know but it's appropriate in this instance I think I think so
Starting point is 00:06:49 then you go to the banks and I just like to again remind you what Canada made permanent yesterday the government's new directive called emergency economic measures order
Starting point is 00:07:02 the order says that the banks and other financial entities like credit unions, co-ops, loan companies, trust, cryptocurrency platforms, and insurance companies must stop providing any financial or related services to anyone associated with the protest up in Canada. That's frozen accounts, stranded money, canceled credit cards. I'm going to show you some stuff that they're doing up. They made this permanent yesterday. They extended the emergency order yesterday. But there's a reason why they did it and it's brilliant. It's evil, but it's brilliant. I mean, they are going to impoverish people who stand up against things.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yeah. And they're taking away. They've already confiscated the trucks from the truckers in Ottawa. And with glee, they're auctioning them off. Now they're going to auction them off. Yeah. It's the same asset forfeiture thing that's going on here in the United States. There's no trial.
Starting point is 00:08:00 No. No, they haven't been charged. Most of them have not been charged with anything. Nope. They haven't been arrested. They haven't gone to jail for the most part. There are a few of them did. But they haven't been convicted of anything.
Starting point is 00:08:12 It's only after you've been convicted of something should your ill-gotten booty be sold off if it was ill-gotten. But their trucks aren't ill-gotten even then. We've left that train in the station long ago. Long time ago. People don't understand. Asset forfeiture happens a lot. lot here in America. It does. And it just happened again.
Starting point is 00:08:34 The FBI seized almost a million dollars from this family. And this wasn't a case of driving around with cash in their car. They seized it from their bank accounts and took to make to $892,000 to be specific. Wait, why? They started to investigate them. The Bureau took funds from every corner of their world. including Amy's savings that she racked up after decades of practicing as an attorney. And agents showed up at their home, informed them that they were under investigation for allegedly depriving Amazon of their honest services.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Wait. What? Yeah. In plainer terms, they accused Carl, the husband, of showing favor to certain developers. and securing them deals in exchange for illegal kickbacks. And he says that never happened. And it's exactly why I fought this as long and as hard as I have. And they just ceased because they're investigating him for this.
Starting point is 00:09:42 $892,000 from these people. They lost their home. They lost their cars. They sued, but they haven't. They supposedly reached a deal where supposedly they're going to return $525,000. Oh, that's big of them. About half of it. You know, this is actually the most, that one is the most questionable out of them.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Usually, they're just like, hey, what do you have that cash for? Yeah, they just pull you over for a traffic stop and just take the money. Still, short of showing us the evidence and convicting me of a crime, you can't take that money. Nope, nope. It is unconstitutional to do what they're doing over and over and over again. And it's, people just don't understand. This is coming for everyone. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:31 If you step out of line, it will, I mean, Mike Lee and Rand Paul are trying to bring up their bill that they tried to get passed under Trump. Limit the emergency powers. Limit the emergency powers. Well, they couldn't get it under Trump. They think maybe they can get it now? I don't think so. I don't think you're not going to limit emergency powers on these guys. But that's what Congress should be doing.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And it's not just emergency powers. Trudeau invoked the emergency powers because he could. And so he did. And he said it's going to be temporary. Really? Yesterday they voted in Parliament to extend it, to give it its stamp of appeal. First chance they got. First chance they got.
Starting point is 00:11:23 They extended it. First chance they got. Now, they used a trick, and I'll tell you about that trick. here in just a minute. But do you think our government is beyond a trick? Oh, no. And all they have to do, they already, he just enacted ESG. Their finance minister, like our Treasury Department,
Starting point is 00:11:45 they are a member of the board of council or something for ESG. In Canada? In Canada, she is a board member of the World Economic Forum. on the Great Reset. So she's all on board. All Trudeau had to do was say, yeah, go ahead and just enact that. And we're just going to do it through emergency powers. But this is what it's about.
Starting point is 00:12:12 This is what's coming. And you can't seem to get anybody to really care or act on it. I think there are. I think people don't know what to do. Well, that's true. That's true. I mean, look at it. You've been talking about taking your money out of the big banks for a while. But even doing that wouldn't protect you against this type of thing.
Starting point is 00:12:37 No. And that's why you get to the cryptocurrency world. And then you see what they're trying to do to cryptocurrency in Canada. They're trying to, I don't know how you freeze a Bitcoin account. I don't think you can necessarily do that unless you have it. They close the off ramps. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:50 You wind up with your money in some exchange and they go through the exchange to shut it down and deny access to the funds that you have. I mean, they're doing. everything they can to control every little bit of your life. Meanwhile, look this up. They're doing the Hamilton Project. The Fed in Boston is in charge of the new digital currency. And it's called the Hamilton Project, the guy who wanted the first central bank, the first bank of the United States. And they're working with MIT.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And what's interesting is they said that they didn't want to work through blockchain because they needed more transparent. than that. I'm sure. But blockchain is every transaction is publicly posted. How much more transparency could you possibly need? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Be able to... Just more. Just more. Just make sure that they can turn it on and off or anybody they want and know exactly what people are doing. Well, they've shown pretty well that they can get a hold of the blockchain funds.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Haven't they? I mean, the FBI has done that already and confiscating people's money. Yeah. I mean that they just had a $3.6 billion. I mean, I don't know what people think tyranny looks like more than taking everything you own. But other than that, I mean, you can't go buy food.
Starting point is 00:14:13 You can't get a job. I don't know what you're waiting for. What? Well, I'm telling behind bars or barbed wire. That's tyranny. That's tyranny. Looking at this story, by the way, from Pat, two years. They haven't charged them in two years.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Right. Two years. And almost a million dollars. Have they charged anybody in, or everybody in January 6th? Are all those people that's going on? A lot of them are still waiting. A year and a half there. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Starting point is 00:16:03 This is the key to the box number six. seven at Ford's Theater occupied by President Lincoln the night of his assassination April 14th 1865 that's the key that opened that door this is the bloody cuff that was taken from you could see the on the other side actually you can see the blood stains on this cuff this is what he was wearing that night you can see some of the stains through it This is the door handle of his house. And everybody who sees this is like, can I just touch the door handle? Yeah, of course you can.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It costs you, but you can do it. Yeah, it costs you. We tell you the fee after you do it, obviously. Exactly right. It's amazing, isn't it? It's incredible. Now, yeah, I get back on that key already. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:16:59 It's not here, though. I want to talk to you a little bit about this. And this is from George Washington. Washington. Today is George Washington's birthday. And if we are talking about how do we save our country? Because we are a country really of rebels. We are a country of the Boston Tea Party. We were founded on questioning government. We're supposed to. But in the old days, they used to tar and feather people. And you know, you rarely died from your run of the mill tar and feather. really yeah if they wanted to kill you with tar and feathers they could um you know they could do it uh dipping you in tar but um that was if they wish to do dead usually they just wanted to make an
Starting point is 00:17:51 example this was the case with a guy that you've probably never heard of robert johnson and it happened on september 11th 1791 so hamilton uh had passed his whiskey tax And as taxing all the whiskey and are like, wait a minute. Johnson was riding his usual tax collection route when he was surrounded by 11 women, he thought. But they were actually 11 men in women's clothing. They stripped him naked, tarred and feathered him, took his horse, and left him in the forest. But he didn't die and they didn't want him to die. They wanted his scars to be a warning.
Starting point is 00:18:38 to every tax collector in the region. If you try to collect this tax on whiskey, we'll make your life a living hell. So he recovers, and Johnson issues a warrant for the rest of two of his assailants, who he recognized, you know, even dressed as a woman. Some guys can't pull it off, I guess. Unfortunately, the man delivering the warrants
Starting point is 00:19:01 was also tarred and feathered and left tied to a tree. Johnson did exactly what they wanted. He quit the tax collecting business after that. The violence just got worse and worse. And anyone with any connection to tax collection was a target, even the collector's wives and children's. I mean, it sounds a little like what Trudeau is doing. Anyone even associated, you can lose everything.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Well, the people in Pennsylvania, it was western Pennsylvania, divided under the regime of the rebellion. It was a revolt that was upending everybody's lives, but they also didn't like the whiskey tax. And they looked for leadership. That's when George Washington wrote this letter. He tasked General Henry Lee, with leading 1,200 men, a militia, to squash the rebellion in Western Pennsylvania. Now, I have heard this story a million times.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I heard it in school, and I hear it all the time. And I hear one of two things. I hear George Washington. Yeah, tell me George Washington in the whiskey tax. In fact, I heard that just last week from Michael Malice. Tell me about a benevolent government with a whiskey tax. Didn't he just say that last Friday? I think he did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yeah. Well, you know, that shows you don't understand the story of Washington and the whiskey tax. I've also heard, you know, from the others, these are really bad guys. They were just so violent and horrible and they all needed to die. Neither one of those are true. In this letter in my hand, Washington laid out his expectations for Lee's army. He said, first, to combat and subdue all those who may be found in arms in opposition to the national will and authority. Second, to aid and support the civil magistrate in bringing offenders
Starting point is 00:21:10 to justice. The disposition of this justice belongs to the civil magistrate and let it ever be our pride and our glory to leave the sacred deposit there unviolated. So he was hoping that rounding these guys up and bringing them to justice would be enough to end the violence. He was right. The rebels scattered and the revolt ended without any further violence. Okay, but what about the whiskey tax? Well, I'll get there. 150 men were tried for treason. Only two met the very high standards that is outlined in our constitution. Two of them were guilty. That means that they had to be executed. Washington pardoned both of them. The whiskey tax? President Jefferson repealed it. Here's the thing. The mob's cause wasn't bad. Jefferson, even Washington himself, thought the
Starting point is 00:22:21 whiskey tax was unfair. And Americans had been rebelling against taxes for 30 years, resisting taxation. It was American. It used to be. why should the people pay the government's debt? They had a point. But they didn't understand who they were rebelling against. And they didn't understand that that's not the way you make friends in America. They lost their way. They got violent.
Starting point is 00:22:53 And that's what most people remember about that, the violence. You don't have to discuss the merits of their argument or the validity of their cause. That's not what people talk about. It's either George Washington was the first to put his foot down on the neck of people, or these guys were so violent they all should be destroyed. Well, that's not right. The story of the Whiskey Rebellion and the reason why I'm telling it to you today is this is another example of Washington's leadership and Washington's credibility.
Starting point is 00:23:32 He understood what was right and wrong. but he trusted the system. Now, I don't trust the system. But I do trust that the people, when they come to their senses, will change the system. And violence delegitimizes good ideas. Good intentions are forever stained by bad actions. We constantly walk the line between compliance and anarchy. The whole American experiment hangs in the balance.
Starting point is 00:24:09 If we slip into mindless submission or step out into violent rebellion, we lose. Did you hear me? If we slip into mindless submission or step into violent rebellion, we lose. Washington balanced those two. It requires immense discipline, discernment, care. but he knew something that I'm not sure we all know. It's worth doing it the right way because this is worth saving. All that's required is to remember, like he did, who he was, who you are, who we are as a nation.
Starting point is 00:25:01 We are the Boston Tea Party. We are not the whiskey rebellion. They confused them. Washington set them straight. We cannot forget that. By the way, I have, I look for the dark things in American history because I think it is really important to know all the bad things in American history. If we don't know, the bad will be surprised. David Barton collects all the good things in American history.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I have looked for the bad things about George Washington. I cannot find them. I can find them with a 20th century scholar who never met them, or can't give me a footnote on why they think that. It's just that scholar's opinion, or an opinion based on an earlier scholar, also from the 20th century, that has no footnotes. He may have been the greatest man to ever live,
Starting point is 00:26:09 in America or lead a nation. And may his spirit never explode nor be extinguished. The more we model ourselves after George Washington, the safer we will all be. The best of the Glenn Beck program. Through Micro, my friend, how are you, sir? I'm great. You look exactly the same. I hate you.
Starting point is 00:26:50 You're like Wesley Snipes. You never age. I thought you were going to go with like a Dorian Gray kind of thing. No, no. I've used that a couple of times on people and they've been who? Who? Yeah, yeah. Look, if you have to explain it.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Yeah. If you have to explain an analogy, if you have to explain a joke, you know, you usually realize halfway through the explanation. You're like, probably shouldn't have started it. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. Long run for a short slide. So good to see you.
Starting point is 00:27:14 You too. We're in quite a different world that we were in when we. Feels like it. Yeah. Feels like it. I wonder sometimes, you know, I mean, it's so easy just to stare at the headlines and look at what's going on right in front of you. you and conclude or assume that we're truly an unprecedented times.
Starting point is 00:27:32 And then, you know, you're a student of history. You look back and it doesn't take a lot of imagination to think, well, you know, the Civil War was a heck of a thing. Yeah. Revolution was a big deal. That whole World War II thing, right? Yeah, but I think we're past the, you know, the 60s were kind of tumultuous. You know, 80s kind of sucked a little bit, the 70s.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I think we're left with the big ones at this point. We're all the stars of our own movie, right? We're all the lead in our own play. We're all the protagonist in our own tragedies. And so it's really difficult to look around and not cast ourselves at the center of all of this. We can't help it. It's the fault in our stars. And it's also the thing, I think, that will inspire good men and women to stand up and be counted.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And they are. I mean, did you follow what was happening up in Canada? Oh, sure. The truckers? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Those people, I mean, they're selling off their trucks today.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Canadians, the Canadian government is starting to auction off all their trucks. They haven't been charged with a crime. They haven't gone to have a court hearing. Nothing. You know what strikes me about all of this. And maybe this is somewhat of a silver lining in it. I kind of feel like we're about to close the loop, right? When this started, truckers were right on the leading edge of heroes.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah. They were the very definition. of essentiality. Yeah, yeah. In the course of two weeks, right? They literally went from hero to villain, to goat, you know. And we've done that, though, with the nurses. Everything.
Starting point is 00:29:08 We've done that with police. Everybody, everybody. Yes, we are constantly changing the definition of words that for a long time we thought we understood. And those definitions are evolving in real time. And if we question it, if we ask about it, well, they look at us like a cow looking at a new gate. Like, what do you, of course infrastructure involves reparations. Of course it does.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Of course it does. Of course it does. Of course that protest was peaceful. What do you mean? You know, it's in so many ways we've been asked, I think, to simply ignore what we're looking at and and pretend that a new language has come along with lots of words that we, used to understand but no longer do it's confounding so how does this what happens next where do do i mean with everything that's going on in your opinion because you're connected to to people you're watching things you're an intelligent man well thank you uh what uh except for the opera thing
Starting point is 00:30:11 but we make mistakes we all make mistakes yeah um where does this go well it's going to go splat now i don't know exactly what splat means but i do know i think was it churchill who said, you know, when you're, when you're marching through hell, always remember to keep going, right? You got to get through it. And, you know, does splat look like a war in Ukraine? Does it look like a third wave? Does it? I don't know. But, but I do believe we're getting close to some kind of tipping point, some sort of critical thing. This is such a tiny example. I hesitate to even use it, But I had a moment last week. I was in San Francisco, of all places, meeting a friend in a diner.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And I walked in, and there was nobody at the hostess stand. And I didn't have my mask on. And I just walked. I could see him sitting right there 10 feet away in a booth. And a woman ran to the front screaming, sir, sir, sir, I need to see your vaccination card. And I said, okay. And I had it. And I showed it to her.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And I started walking over to my friend. And she said, and, sir, you need to put a mask on. And I looked at her. and she looked at me and she had her mask on. And I had one in my pocket. But Glenn, for the first time during all of this, I smiled and I looked at it and I said, I'm sorry, but I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I can't put a mask on to walk five feet to sit down and have lunch with my friend without a mask on. And the good part of the story is that there was a pause and she looked at me and she said, I understand. And went about her business. Jesus. Yeah. And I thought, wait a second. That's, so there's, you know, that's a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny little thing. But I, I feel a crumbling. I do too. I can feel it. I do too. And people, I don't know what it's, I don't know. I wouldn't want to bet on what an airport's going to look like in a month or a plane or a restaurant. I really don't know. What does that mean? Well, I think it just means that in that tiny little moment where the people who have to enforce the rules come face to face with the undeniable truth that the rules they've been forced to enforce.
Starting point is 00:32:22 are not rooted or are no longer rooted in anything that is logical. And at some point, good cops aren't going to arrest protesters. At some point. At some point, look at how many cops in Canada just became cops I don't recognize. I know. But your question is, how long does that go on? My answer is it's never gone on forever. True.
Starting point is 00:32:56 It's never gone on forever. Yes. Let's talk about the bull crap that is the unemployment rate. I keep hearing from the Federal Reserve. You know, our unemployment rate is only 4.5%. I'm like, that's because you're no longer counting the people who are staying home because you're paying them. Right. I mean, we can't have a 4.5 unemployment rate.
Starting point is 00:33:19 When everywhere you go, you see help wanted, everywhere. Talk about a jobs program. Oh, my gosh. Yes, that was one of the very first conversations you and I had when you invited me here years ago, which, by the way, it wouldn't be the same if I didn't thank you for doing that because it did jumpstart my foundation. We're going to give away another million dollars next month and work ethic scholarships. And we're doing it precisely to answer the question you just posed, which is if we focus only on unemployment, you take your eye off the opportunities that exist.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And the opportunities that exist right now are a little. Unbelievable. 11. What million? Right? There are so many open positions right now. And Glenn, not a week goes by where my foundation doesn't get a call from some large company
Starting point is 00:34:10 or more often than not some association who is desperate, desperate to get out of their own way to hire more people. and they just don't quite know how. I mean, and if you think about it, it's not a great mystery. Companies are often their own worst enemy when it comes to making a persuasive case for why you should work there. Because it all looks like advertising.
Starting point is 00:34:33 It all looks like marketing. And kids today, they've got such a bull crap meter. They can smell it. They know when they're being marketed to. So what we've been doing for the last 14 years and more pointedly for the last five or six is award these work ethic scholarships and try and make a more persuasive case for the opportunities that do exist
Starting point is 00:34:53 by confronting the stigmas and the stereotypes and the myths and the misperceptions that keep millions of people from even looking at a career in the trades where there is so much prosperity going on right now, you'd headlspin. That is, I mean, I'm not sending my kids to college. I won't. They can go, unless you want to go to Hillsdale, you're not going, I'm not paying for it because it's just an indoctrination program. And there are trade colleges and trades that you can apprentice in even that are really good.
Starting point is 00:35:31 You can make a lot of money and have a pretty nice life. And those skills are going away, going away. Every five tradesmen that retire today are replaced by two. Now that, I think it was Lincoln who he was talking about something else altogether, but he referred to a terrible arithmetic. A terrible arithmetic. He was talking about the death, of course, in the Civil War. This is just bad math in terms of anybody can look at this and say, you take five and put two back, do it every year for the next 10 years, and there's not much there. And that's what's been happening.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Our trade force right now is so far north of 50 years of age, and nobody is making a compelling case for tens of thousands of open positions. And the mistake, Glenn, as people think constantly, this is a problem between employers and people who either are untrained or unwilling to work. And that's certainly true. But it's also a problem for anybody who shares my addiction to affordable electricity and indoor plumbing and smooth roads. right? Our real infrastructure is hanging in the balance. One of the jobs, you know, I'm not sure if you're familiar with all of the numbers that are coming about AI, but a lot of jobs are going to be just destroyed. One of the jobs that won't be destroyed, plumbers. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:58 AI can do new construction, but it can't do it inside the house. Won't be able to. That's right. I mean, those guys are going, they already, believe me, I redid my house. They already make a lot of money. You know what I mean? And they don't have both plumbers, two different plumbers, both of them said, I have tried to get people to apprentice with me. I want to pass this on to somebody else. I can't get anybody to work. They'll work two days and they'll go, I got to do all of this.
Starting point is 00:37:31 This is a communications problem and it's a PR problem. And in my view, one of the most important things you can do and anybody who has. some influence is tell your plumbers story. Because he can't, right? He doesn't, all he can do is preach to the choir and commiserate with other plumbers. And they shake their heads and they say, yeah, we can't, we can't find anybody. Meanwhile, the question we ought to be asking, the rest, you know, the fat part of the bat, the 300 million people in the country ought to be saying, well, how long do we want to wait for a plumber to come to fix the toilet? Right.
Starting point is 00:38:07 You know, obviously, we also want to know how much we. need to pay but how long do you want to wait for the lineman to get up the pole how long do you want to wait for the heating and air conditioning guy to come out here during the next big freeze right these questions impact everybody and the the best way to address it in my view i love to talk about it and i'm i'll find a bully pulpit and i'll pound my shoe on the table forever but we have to hear from the people who have prospered directly from mastering a skill that's in demand and gone to work And until we do, our kids are just not going to buy it. So, so Mike, the, can we continue the conversation about jobs that are going to last through AI?
Starting point is 00:38:54 Are you up on that at all? Are you looking into this stuff? Yeah. I mean, I think so. And by AI, you mean artificial intelligence and the, you know. Not artificial insemination, which I'm also prepared to speak on at great length. No, no, that's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:39:10 You know, early on in dirty jobs, there was a delightful bit of confusion. Yes. When I told the network, yes, I've got a handle on a great AI job. And they were delighted. They thought they were going to come back with a big piece on robots. And I had my arm up to my shoulder and a cow. They really got everybody fun. That is, the first time I did that, it's a.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yeah, it's a heck of a thing. It's a heck of a thing. And you learn why that guy doesn't have one sleeve. That's right. That's right. And why that cow backs up every time he walks in the room. Oh, no. Not this again.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Not this. No. It's bizarre. It goes to language, though, again, right? I mean, it's a, so much is swirling around. You say AI, I hear one thing. Somebody else hears something else. Well, what I'm wondering is we are going to, we're going to live in a world where you have to be retrained for something new all the time.
Starting point is 00:40:06 That's coming. And we don't seem to have that work. ethic anymore. It feels like it's being beaten out of us. Well, we've we've run it out of ourselves. We've, look, it's very, very tempting to if if if the guys at CarShield can come out and take care of a problem that your dad would have taken care of himself once upon a time, right? That's a slow creep. It's not a bad thing. It's the very existence of companies like that, that I think is telling because more and more of us are are increasingly, disconnected from the business of work. I can't change my oil. I can't even find it anymore.
Starting point is 00:40:45 No, you can't, you can't go in and change. It's all chips. You can't even run a diagnostic. I mean, we've placed a lot of mechanics through our foundation. And I'm telling you, these guys, they're, they're, it's, it's not quite rocket science. But when you open the hood and look down at that thing, it's pretty close. Oh, yeah. You need to be a software engineer. Yeah, no, it's completely different. So, look, AI is. And you know, and let me tell you a story. I have an old car that has a carburetor. I drove it across the country last, and I got up into the Rocky Mountains.
Starting point is 00:41:19 That thing was dying on me. It's like, I need air, I need air. I couldn't find anyone who knew how to adjust a car. I don't know how. No one. And this is the honest to God truth. One guy in the town said, you know, there is an old guy that used to fix his old tractors.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I might be able to get a hold of him. And I'm like, holy cow. this is a lost art. Yeah. I mean, it's a carburetor. Right. Our dads used to do that. Look, I think it was Huxley.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I think it was Huxley who said the greatest enemy of freedom is anarchy. But the second greatest enemy is efficiency. And not effectiveness, efficiency. So when you talk about AI, to me, I immediately think of, uh-oh, we've fallen in love with efficiency, as opposed to effectiveness. Effectiveness still has, in my mind anyway, a human component.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Humans are effective. Machines are efficient, right? And somewhere and all that is a lesson and something to be wary of. I have a feeling we'll learn it after. We'll learn it the hard way. We'll learn it the hard way. Mike, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Mike's going to be on the podcast that you will hear on Thursday, if you are a member of the Blaze and Saturday, wherever you get your podcast. Mike Rowe from MicroWorks Foundation. You can follow him at micro.com. No, no.

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