The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Peter Atwater | 10/21/25

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

President Trump is reshaping everything, and it's causing the Left to lose its collective mind. Glenn lays out what he believes President Trump is up to as he continues to launch attacks on vessels in the Caribbean. Glenn explains his perspective on the current state of gold prices and its implications for America's crippling debt. While high-risk, Glenn believes this could be the "reset" that would put America back into a place where America's sovereignty remains secure. Glenn and Stu discuss Trump's upcoming White House ballroom, and Glenn sharing his conversation with the president about the controversial construction. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Everybody says it's a drug war. I have a different theory, and I think it's the the new Monroe doctrine. And I'll explain that, which leads me also to what is happening with gold. Are we being reborn? Are we watching it burn to the ground? I'll explain. And again, a different theory. You're not going to hear anyplace else. And we also talk a little bit about what's happening at the White House. Everybody's all Abraham Lincoln. They're taking his bones and, and they're throwing them outside in the

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And thanks for standing with us. Now let's get to work. You're listening to the best of the blue. Before I start this on gold, what is Donald Trump? Does Donald, is Donald Trump a guy who likes to cut the, the spending?

No. He believes in debt, right? But what he believes in more than debt, is growing the bottom line. So you grow your way out of things. So keep that in mind as I'm trying to make sense of gold. And what I'm going to share with you is just a theory. I think I might be right on this, but I don't know.

Gold is rocketing. You know, it's now almost, what is it, $43 or $4,400 an ounce today. And I've always told you, You don't want to see a world with $5,000 an ounce gold. That is when $5,000 an ounce happens, that means the trust is going away for the financial system and the financial markets. The dollar is starting to weaken and the world is sending a signal. We don't trust any of this anymore.

Now, that may be true. That may be true. But let me take you to another place because maybe. something that is happening that doesn't fit that script because you're dealing with something new. You're dealing with Donald Trump. So I think behind all of it, there is a new strategy that is taking shape in Washington. Congress, you know, doesn't have the stomach to cut any of the spending. And Donald Trump believes the opposite, grow your way out.

Okay. So that's a recipe for deficit that is really quite frightening. But there is someone, and I think it's Besson, who is finding a way to pull down the deficit without the usual political bloodshed. One of the misunderstood tools in that strategy is something that you're going to be amazed that it hasn't happened before. it is the revaluation of gold. Right now, the government values its gold reserves. We have 260 million Troy ounces. That's what they say officially.

We might have none. But we have 260 million Troy ounces. But we only value it at $35 an ounce. Why? Because that's the price FDR in the 1930 set gold at and said it's worth $35 an ounce. That hasn't changed. So on paper, that means the government, all of our gold that we have, on paper, the whole

gold hoard is only worth $9 billion. So, okay, so wait a minute, but the market price today is almost $4,500, which would make that $9 billion actually worth $1.1 trillion. Now, think about that. The United States is sitting on a trillion dollar asset. and we don't even count it. Why does this matter? I want you to think of your home.

Imagine you're going into a bank and you want to go buy a car, okay? And you have your salary and you're in debt and you're just barely making it. But your home on paper has only been valued at $5,000. Because when your parents bought it all those years ago, it was $5,000. And now you're sitting here. and it hasn't changed in value. It has in reality, but you're still counting it as the bank and saying,

yeah, well, my grandfather and my father paid $5,000 for this. And so it's worth $5,000. You know, the bank would know, no, it's not. It's worth a million dollars today. What changes if this is called mark to market? This is a usual thing.

You mark the price to what the market value is. Your price of your house goes down. You are poorer on paper because the value of your house has gone down and it's marked to market. If the price is gone from $35 an ounce to $4,500 an ounce, then you mark to market and everything changes. Suddenly, if that's your house, $5,000 to a million, now you can buy that new car. You walk into the bank and you're like, I'm going to buy a $50,000 car. and they're like, well, let me see your assets. And you're like, oh, well, you have a house that's been paid off and it's worth a million dollars.

Where yesterday it was worth $5,000. Today it's worth a million dollars because it's actually worth that if you sold it. And so the bank goes like, oh, you're fine. You're fine. Yeah, sure. Here's 50 grand go buy that car. Suddenly your profile looks different overnight. Okay.

That is what I believe is coming in America. I believe they're going to revalue gold. that without raising taxes, without cutting a single program, it would instantly improve the nation's balance sheet. Our debt to asset ratio would shift dramatically. Have you noticed in the last year, everybody's like their debt to their debt to asset ratio is way out of whack and they're now 125 percent, whatever it is. That would change. The dollar would legitimately appear to be stronger and the deficit, at least on paper, would shrink. Now, add to that, again, what Donald Trump believes, and you may not agree with it,

but he believes I can grow the economy. So you combine that with the H-1B visa fees. You do the tariffs expected, you know, to bring in money, and then also the expected $8 to $12 trillion in foreign capital investments that are, flowing into the United States. If all of that is real, suddenly the picture doesn't look quite so desperate because it looks like we are growing again and we actually would be growing again. The debt doesn't shrink by cutting.

It shrinks by growing. It shrinks by growing the economy and expanding the economy beneath it. That's Trump's mark. that's always what he's believed in. So while I've been sitting here going, you don't want $5,000 a gold, you don't, but it also might be a good thing.

Let me give you this. There's more. Washington is floating the idea, and Mike Lee got hammered for this, but this is a Bessent idea. Mike Lee is floating the idea of selling off portions of vast federal portfolio. We have all this land.

These are not national parks. We have millions of acres of unproductive and unused territory. I have known this from central bankers for 20 years that they actually have said, we should sell the national parks. You know, how much the national park? I don't want you selling the national parks. What are you talking about? No, we're not selling the national parks.

But that's not what they're talking about. They're talking about cutting the inefficiency out of every day. department and taking land that is unusable and sellable that the government is holding and doesn't need to hold selling that land, okay, which would allow us to build more houses, expand, et cetera, et cetera, and increase the bottom line on the ballot sheet. Suddenly, with all of this, the pressure valves are opened up, okay? also put in here, nobody seems to be panicking about the government shutdown. And what is the government shutdown doing?

What is Bessent hoping he gets an opportunity to do? Cut. So now you're expanding with gold, the possibility of selling federal land at some point, you're bringing in $12 trillion of investment, you're getting the raw earth minerals from Venezuela and, and from South America and elsewhere in the world. You've solved our military peace problem. We're no longer the world's policemen,

so we're not having to do all of that stuff, which is a drain on blood and treasure. All of a sudden, you're starting to see that America is actually shoring itself up. So what looks like chaos right now may actually be a controlled implosion of a broken system. Because remember, this is exactly what the left was going to do. The left through the WEF and the Great Reset, they wanted to implode the system, but they had a safety net that we were going to fall into, and that was a global world order.

Donald Trump doesn't believe in the global world order, but he does believe we are in trouble. He knows that. He has a different idea. I think we might be seeing a re-anchoring of America's finances in hard assets, real productivity. And if Bessent and the president can pull this off, we may be watching the birth of a, of the building of a new foundation of a new financial order. One where, you know, we're we're re-grounding ourselves in value that's actually really. real. It's dangerous.

If confidence breaks, if the terrorists who are already here, thank you, Joe Biden, managed to disrupt the perception of reality. If we start having, you know, real trouble on our streets and we go unstable, then the illusion flips. The revaluation becomes a revelation that even gold cannot cover the sins of a government that is just not. paid attention for this this long and you know there's no pretending that but if we can hold together this fragile unity in our country long enough and they can revalue the system and rejigger the system keep your eye on gold it may be the canary in the coal mine it may be this is real trouble but remember not every alarm means disaster it's how you react to it i would have told you four years ago, and I did when we said, we're going to kick Russia and China off the

SWIF system. That's a really bad idea because you have no plan. You have no replacement for the Swiss system. You're now taking the assets of a sovereign country and saying, yeah, we can do that. That will drive the price of the dollar down. People will sell our reserve currencies. And the only thing they had as backup was a global new financial order. none of us wanted. Notice we're not talking about CBDCs. We're talking about gold. This government is talking, Donald Trump is talking about rebalancing and growing,

not a global world order. So it could be that the price of gold is, you know, just a fire that could burn out of control, as it would have just a few years ago, and it still may, but it also may be that the rise in gold and what's happening with Donald Trump is a backfire. When you set fire in a forest fire

and you burn back into it to put it out, this may be a fire that we are setting that could put all of this out. It may, this heat, may actually forge something new, because I think there's real strategy here. When you look at what I talked to you about a minute ago, why are we bombing those boats? That's strategy for something bigger. That's not a war on drugs.

It's not. That's strategy for something bigger, knowing that he's resetting the entire world, knowing that he likes the revaluation of things, and he likes to grow the asset sheet, knowing he's not a dummy, knowing that he wants to keep America's sovereignty true, gold will tell the story, whether it's collapse or America's rebirth,

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It's another failed campaign, another round of speeches, another generation is caught in the crossfire. But what if I told you that the drug war that you're actually watching today has almost nothing to do with cocaine or fentanyl? I think the average person would go, yep, that sounds true. And I believe it is. It has everything to do with oil and minerals and the rebirth of American sovereignty. What you have to understand about Donald Trump is he is reshaping everything. Just as the WEF said, we're going to go for the great reset. We're going to reshape the world.

He's doing that single-handedly. He is taking on everything and reshaping the world to have a stronger America and one that is protected, not mired in endless wars, and strong financially and militarily. So we can protect ourselves with American sovereignty. So what's taken place right now in South America is not a narcotics operation. Again, this is my opinion. You know, I was talking about it yesterday, and I'm like, it's like the Monroe Doctrine. This may be as important as the Monroe Doctrine, which the Monroe Doctrine was in this hemisphere, don't screw with any of our allies.

You're not going to put, you know, you're not going to put enemy ships and you're not going to play around with countries in our hemisphere. This is our hemisphere. America is supreme in this hemisphere. You do your own thing. But then we kind of got weak on that. And now China is all over. Russia was all over the southern part of the Western Hemisphere. So what he's doing is he's putting a Newman-Roe doctrine together.

that's Donald Trump. Now, look at the map. You really have to look at it because I could say imagine the map and nobody can imagine them. Venezuela, Guyana, Colombia, okay? Three names you almost never heard anything about on cable news five years ago. And suddenly, they're the front page priorities for Washington, D.C. and our military. What? Well, there's smuggling drugs.

Well, yeah, they might be. but they're also doing a lot of other things, including, as we told you, terrorist island in Venezuela. They have Hamas and Iran in Venezuela. But whoever controls this little triangle controls the Western Hemisphere and controls the Western Hemisphere's future.

Its energy, its minerals, and it's manufacturing independence. And Venezuela is the fulcrum. It holds the larger, crude reserves on earth and it's oil that is perfectly suited for America's Gulf Coast refineries. But China and Russia have been moving in. They're like vultures sitting there offering loans and sweetheart deals to Venezuela.

And Venezuela has become more and more communist and more and more hostile to America. And they are trying to mortgage that entire system to Beijing's state-run oil giants. So what are we doing? Well, we haven't done anything about it. We've just let them go in. Now, all of a sudden, we're doing Navy drills in the Caribbean, and we're doing sanctions. We are moving more ships and more naval assets. I mean, it is a full-fledged onslaught.

We are sending a message, and I don't know we're sending a message just to the drug lords. This is a pressure campaign that kind of looks like. the old drug war, but is really, I believe, designed to crowd out the Chinese influence. This is about keeping Venezuela's energy in the Western family, not letting it become another victim of the Belt and Road initiative and a pawn of China. Then there's Guyana, which I thought was in the other hemisphere. I had no idea it was on this continent that's, you know, just below us. apparently called South America.

It's tiny. It is quiet. And suddenly a gold rush of oil. Now, an American company, ExxonMobil, leads the charge there. And Washington isn't just helping fight traffickers. It's defending America's offshore platforms. They're building radar networks. They're locking down the entire coast because it's not just about barrens.

It's about cables. It's about information. It's about pipelines. It's about rare earth minerals. All of those things are going to power the next century. And then Columbia, we know, because that was the first thing that all of a sudden, Donald Trump started talking about the, about Colombia. And then the Panama Canal and everybody's like, what are we talking about? Where are we back in 1958?

No, nobody had talked about. Nobody had paid attention to it. This guy is so far ahead of the curve. He is so far over the horizon. I don't think people really understand what he's doing. Columbia is the hinge between the Caribbean and the Pacific. So we were told for decades that the U.S. military presence there was about fighting the cartels. Maybe.

But I think the truth is that Colombia is the geographic and logistical bridge between the hemispheres. Okay. It guards both oceans. It buffers the Panama Connect. now, it sits atop minerals every modern economy needs now, lithium, rare earth, all of this stuff. You control Columbia and you control the Western Hemisphere's arteries. Now, that's not drug interdiction. That's grand strategy.

This hour, I kind of want to make sense of the world for you in two things. And it all hinges around a theory that I'm pet. A theory, and I could be wrong on this, that when I look at all of the dots, they don't make sense. You know, this is about that submarine with cocaine in it. Really? Is it? We're sending our entire military out to get the submarine with, I mean, I want drugs to stop. I get it.

But really? Doesn't make sense to me. So the dots don't make sense. And there's too many up on the board that just don't make sense unless you start to frame it in another direction. And I did this last night with not only South America and what we're doing with Venezuela and the, quote, drug war, but also gold. And so I want to finish this in a minute. And I want to move to gold because I want to tell you, I think there's a grand strategy here that everyone is missing. Okay. So why does all of this matter? Trump is the first president

since Reagan, I think, to understand that America's strength doesn't come from endless foreign wars. It comes from owning the supply lines, from building the sovereign trade, the energy, the technology pipelines, all of the stuff that runs all the way through our hemisphere, not Beijing. So he's not trying to make America the world's policemen anymore. He's not doing that. He's making us the secure citadel. He is forcing every region, Europe. Think about what he's done with NATO. What is he doing? We're not going to be your policemen anymore. You've got to step up to the plate. You've got to do it. The Middle East. We're not going to be policemen here anymore. All of you Arabs, you do it. You get together. You make peace. He's

brokering peace and also saying to the rest of the world, you need to step up and he's doing it in Latin America to the police themselves. Every move you see, sanctions, seizures, aid freezes, even visa crackdowns. This is all, I believe, about locking down critical resources before China does. This is economic warfare disguised as moral policing. And the irony is, it may be one of the smartest uses of the drug war apparatus we've ever seen. This one actually might work and do something. So let me tell you something that nobody else is telling.

Let me give you what everybody else is missing. This is not about ideology. this is not about drugs. This is about global architecture. Trump is tearing down the old corrupt order, the WEF Great Reset corrupt global order, and he is building one, not on dependency and debt and endless intervention.

He's laying, he's chopping the trees down, he's paving a road and he's laying the asphalt for a new one. A hemisphere that produces its own energy, defends its own borders, works together, and reclaims the American right to chart its own destiny while encouraging all other countries to do exactly the same. And he's making as many allies as he can in any way he can.

That's what's really happening, I think, behind the headlines. while everybody else is like, should we do this? Before you talk about a drug war, ask yourself, does that make sense? Now, to everybody who is, you know, no kings, I might make sense, because you're not thinking anyway. I invite you to look at a much bigger picture. We know the rest of the world was way down this path of a new global world government and a global world order. We also know Donald Trump was never for that. We know that Donald Trump doesn't like wars.

So why do we have the military, Venezuela, of all places? Because this is not about chasing smugglers through jungles. This is about chasing China and Russia out of our own backyard. It is a quiet, strategic, and I think, if I'm right on this, a brilliant reset. Because if Trump succeeds, historians are going to look back at this time and call it for what it truly is. The second Monroe Doctrine.

The moment America stopped apologizing for defending its own hemisphere and began rebuilding its own sovereignty. Trump believes in a strong America, America first. That doesn't mean we're going to leave every other country alone. It just means we have to do the things that we have to do to make sure that we are strong enough and strengthen the countries around us as well and the countries that we have been protecting all these years give them the impetus and also the ability to come together in their own regions and rebuild and protect their own sovereignty, one barrel, one chip, one border at a time. Now, I have been warning you about $5,000 gold forever. And there are two ways this gold rush could go. Let me give you one way that it could go. And then after spending a few days talking to some people who think differently and saying,

I don't understand what's happening here. Because everything would tell me that this is a flight to safety, which I believe it is, but it is the central banks that are buying up most of this gold. And it's the West. So are they getting away from America or something else happening? So there's two ways the gold story goes, really, really badly. Or is it something strategic, again, from the Trump administration? And the reason why I'm on this is because I sent an email to the office of Bessent and I said,

said, okay, I'm kind of freaking out about $5,000 an ounce gold. What's happening? No comment. Just sent a story to me. That's all he did. His response from somebody in his office was just a story. At first, I didn't understand. What is he trying to tell me here?

I want to share with you what I think I'm getting on gold. and it actually, like the drug war thing, when you reframe it and you're looking at it from a different perspective, it actually might be really, really good. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. I'm glad you're here. Thank you so much for listening. You know, Stu is like freaking out about the White House.

I'm not freaking out. I just think it's an interesting, I thought there would be more of a process to something like this. Nope. Because I do not think at this point, the American people understand what is about to happen, which is like the White House is about to double in size. Uh-huh. Just by my eyeball look at it, it looks like it's going to maybe be more than two times the size. It's going to be large, but it's not the actual White House. It is part of the East Wing. That's a totally misleading commentary.

Because the White House is the original piece from the 1700s. Okay. That's the center house. The East Wing and the West Wing was not done until FDR. They were added later. You know, the biggest change to the White House in the last, well, since FDR, and it happened in our lifetime right after 9-11. The White House became enormous, but it was all underground.

They completely changed everything underground. And we didn't have a conversation about that at all. Well, but it's because it's underground. I assume all sorts of things are happening underground. Our well-known monuments and buildings. But this is a, like, it's not a, they keep saying this, though, they're going to be changing the West Wing. That's not what they're doing. The East Wing, sorry.

They're going to be changing the East Wing. That's not what they're doing. This is like doubling the size of the White House. Now, I'm not opposed to that idea. I'm just sort of surprised that it wasn't like a big conversation and a bill. Okay. All right. Okay.

All right. You ready? Yes. So was Donald Trump. What do you mean? So I'm in the White House with him and I'm up in the private quarters with him. And he's showing me some things that he is doing and talking to me about some other things that I can't talk about because he doesn't want. I don't know why.

He doesn't want to discuss. They didn't want to discuss it. And I don't know why, because it's all really good stuff. But anyway, so we're talking about it. And then he brings up the ballroom. And we're walking down the stairs from the residence and we're going into the ballroom. And he says, you know, there's the ballroom. The Abram Lincoln at dinner.

And I said, you know, it's that window over there that Frederick Douglass opened up the window and had to crawl in because they wouldn't let him in because he was black. And Abraham Lincoln is like, let him. He's my friend. Why is he coming through the window? And we were talking about all the history of the ballroom and that it's very, very small because it was built in the 1700s. And we keep using that ballroom. And he's like, you've got to have a bigger ballroom. We have it out the wet and the cold and the raid and yada, yada, yada.

And so he said, we come over to a window and he's like, right there, I've got to build a big beautiful ballroom. And it's going to be better than anybody thinks it's going to be the biggest, most beautiful ballroom. And I'm like, you know, I just try not to laugh, you know, because that's the way he describes it. And he said, you know, I'm surprised I could do that. And I said, I bet. How long is that going to take? What's that process like? And he's like, right?

That's what I asked. He said, I went to the, I went to the, I don't know, chief usher or somebody, whoever's in charge of the White House, I think it's a chief usher. He said, I think we should have a ballroom. And he's like, what do I do? And he said, well, you just have talked to the architect. So he went to the White House architect. Now this is the guy who makes sure the integrity of the White House stays. Like you can't make it into a modern house.

You're not going to redesign the inside and say, you can add some gold, I guess. You can add a lot of gold, I guess. But you can't make it into like, you know, you can't wreck the integrity of the White House. And he said, you know, I just put these flagpoles in. And he's like, all I had to say was I want to put some flagpoles in. They're like, yes, sir, where? He's like, what? And he's like, one in the front.

one in the back and they're like okay just tells where so he went out the yard and was like right here right there and they put him up and so he's he's talking to the white house um architect and he said we got to have a ballroom and i think we should have it over here the east wing you should be a big beautiful and he said but what is this going to take and uh he's like well it's going to be very expensive are you expecting the people pay me he's like no i'll raise the money for it i'll pay for it and I'll raise the money extra so American people are not going to pay for it. And the Arctic said, well, then all you have to do is sign the permits. And he's like, what?

And he said, well, you have to go through the permitting process. And he said, how long is that going to take? And he's like, well, the president is the one who controls the process and signs the permit. So as short as you'd like it to be, Mr. President. And he's like, are you kidding me? And he looked at me. And he's like, I'll have this done by sports. of next year.

So he can change it. What you have to understand is the, the, the east wing and the west wing, those, those are FDR. So FDR went into a works project and he added those wings. The east wing is where the first lady's offices are. You just the east wing is like, you know, it's just the east wing. And it's You're showing shade at the Eastwick? Yeah, I am.

But anyway. And so what he's doing is he's taking some of it down and he's going to link it to the ballroom. And the ballroom is going to be the biggest beautiful ballroom in Washington, D.C. It's going to link from there. So you'll walk, if you're in the White House, you'll walk from the front door through the dining room, or the East dining room.

You'll go into the East Wing and you'll go to the ballroom. I'm looking at the renderings as we speak. And that's exactly. I've not even seen the renderings. Oh, you haven't seen them? No, I just had him describe it to me. Can I see it? No.

Oh. It's it they're mine. It's my computer. Okay. conversation about whether this is the the, you can't, it's already zoomed in. I mean, they're not the best images. My, here. There's nothing wrong with that.

What's wrong with that? It looks just like the white. It fits. It's appropriate. I was in the middle of saying, it's my conversation on this is not whether it is looks good or is appropriate or anything. Like, I actually think his point on the ballroom is so obvious. every president should have been making it.

The fact is that we don't have a big room to have state dinners in. Unless you wanted to do them off campus somewhere else, you have to have that. And why not have it at the White House? It makes a lot of sense. Except I don't want to pay for it. As a citizen, I don't want a dime going for it. You know what?

Hey, all you Frenchies, you're going to eat on the lawn. Literally on the lawn. We just throw the food out on the lawn. Yeah. I mean, I'm fine with that. But if he wants to pay for it, If he wants to get rich people to pay for it, go for it. I don't want any of my tax dollars going to it.

Right. So my criticism is not how it looks or that we need it. I actually, they show the inside of it. And it seems like the type of facility we should have for these types of events. We're going to have them somewhere. Yeah. Why not have them there? I think, you know, I.

And who better to build it than Donald Trump? One of the best builders of all time. We've had this conversation about how you project American power. Yes. And I think Trump's. approach to particularly, I mean, we've seen it in the Middle East, but I think it's a bit effective around the world of these trappings actually are effective in diplomatic relations with other nations. It's not like just Donald Trump has a lot of places that are lined in

gold. He can have meetings. It's not like that's what he wants it for. The left tries to portray it as, oh, he just wants a big, he just, of course he does. He wants this big, no, it means something to him and he knows how these people think. No, no. It, it, it, because he, I asked him, I won't tell the whole story. I really want to really desperately. But, you know, he's gilding everything. And that's not necessarily my favorite look, you know? Right.

And he came in, Tanya and I were alone in the Oval for a while. We were talking about it. And he comes in, he says, you know, I'm doing all this. You see all the gold? I'm like, yes, I can't miss it. You can't miss the gold. and he's like, you know, it's so important. These foreign leaders, they all come from palaces.

And they don't understand. And I know, you know, the White House is different, America's different, but they understand power in a different way. And he said they're coming from these old countries and these big buildings and these palaces. And he said, it is important for us to project power. Yes. And that's, and that is why he's doing it.

It's not because he likes gold. He's doing it to project. power and wealth. Notice how many prime ministers. They're all flying in all the time from all over the world. You know, I've never seen a president meet with so many foreign dignitaries in the White House all the time. Yeah, and the media likes to say, well, that's because he's self-important. And he's projecting American power. I think so too. And when I say it's important to him, that's why it's important to him. Because he believes it's an important tool in that world. It's not him. He knows the language they speak in not just body language or, you know, spoken language.

All of the entire, that's what protocol is all about. It all means something. And so my criticism, and it's not even criticism. My observation is not whether it fits or whether we need it or whether it's appropriate. Or Mike, I don't think my observation here in the group text that we started this with, It was just that like, holy crap, I don't think the, I don't think the American people have any idea what's about to happen. Like, every time I bring this up to Glenn, and you have to understand how these, the conversations work, I say, people are going to look at the White House and it's going to be like totally different. He's like, oh, President Tyler did more than that.

And I ain't for a shot up. That's what I get from Glenn. Oh, well, there was more changes underground. You don't understand the piping. They totally change. Piping back in 1807, you moron. Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't know that.

What I think of, and, you know, FDR made these changes. My wife, it's been the same pretty much from the outside. I know what the White House looks like. You go up there, you look at the White House. It looks like the White House. It is not going to look like the White House when this is over. It is going to look like the White House plus another White House next to it. And it's going to be, I think, massively impressive,

but like I'm surprised there's not more conversation. When's the last time you were in Washington, D.C.? The inauguration. So you would not believe the difference in the White House grounds. The difference from, you know, when I went with George Bush, you could stand right at the front gate. Right. You can't do that anymore.

They've taken the park. The park in the back is all gone. The security, everything, all of the trees, everything that has, been done to not see the White House except for that iconic front. Yeah. You know what I mean? Everything else is not really, you don't see it like you used to anymore. You don't walk up to it anymore.

I mean, I was in town for the inauguration. Last time I actually walked by the White House has been a long time. Oh, you would not, you won't recognize it. I mean, just driving by and seeing it. Now, you'll get pictures of it and everything. else. But walking by it, today you wouldn't recognize it. It's, it's what has had to, what has happened with security is so sad. I mean, I have the bell from the White House front desk. There used to be a little desk right in the front, right as you walk in, there was a desk and a bell. And I have it.

I think it is from Tyler's, you know, administration. And you'd walk in. And you'd walk in. And, you'd walk in. and you'd hit the bell and you'd say, I want to see the president. And somebody would say, okay, all right, sit over there. And you would wait. You might wait all day. But you got to, you could walk in without an appointment and see the president of the United States.

Oh, my God. You're not getting in within two blocks of the White House now. It's sad. It's sad what's happening. Yeah. I mean, and for good, again,

I wouldn't disagree with that either. It's for good reason, security-wise. Yes. But I think of back, Glenn, the classic, I think what everyone thinks of when they think of the White House is, of course, the scene from Superman 2, where...

Try to remember. Where they show the White House, and it's supposed to be... It's a motion picture, but they were too lazy to actually get video footage of the White House, so it's just a still. And you can tell because there's, like, you know, things that should be moving that aren't moving. So... Is that because... I think a Superman... On Independence Day, they blew it up?

It could be. It could be that. I mean, they only had a picture. They had rebuilt it. It stays another good example. Like, you have those, that picture of what the White House looks like. And, you know, I guess from certain angles, it's still going to look pretty much the same, right? From the front, you're not going to notice it because it's kind of wrapped around the back.

But like that, the back is pretty iconic too. It's not going to look like that anymore. It's going to look in some ways a lot better and more impressive, but it is a major change that I, I, when you say, hey, they're redoing the West Wing and putting a little ballroom in there. That's not what they're doing. East. Sorry, East Wing. This is I hate Glenn. I'm only saying it because I know how much he hates it.

I hate you.