The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Rep. Chip Roy | 1/28/26

Episode Date: January 28, 2026

Why are we getting more information about national security threats from independent journalists rather than the NSA? Glenn explains why he has devoted Stu’s final week on the show to embarrassing him as much as possible. Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) joins to explain why some House Republicans like himself will not vote to pass a spending bill that doesn’t include funding for the Department of Homeland Security. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Why are we getting more data and more information from people like, you know, Cam Higbee or Data Republican than we are from, I don't know, our own federal government? I've heard tell of this NSA thing that records every keystroke you've ever made. Why are they not a part of this to find out and separate the protesters from the insurrectionists, especially since it looks like money is coming in from overseas? also, Stu and I look back on our time together, time that, well, one of the times when we weren't sure that if what we talked about with the president in a, you know, set up an interview, a very important interview right after 9-11 was even being recorded. And we told the president it was. Was it? Find out. Also, Chip Roy is on, you know, he's running for the Attorney General of the state of Texas. I think he'd make a great Attorney General in Texas. but one of the things in the first time I've heard him not be very very clear

and I think it's because it's almost unspeakable he's talking about what's happening in Minnesota and now states have decisions to make and we are looking if this doesn't stop in Minnesota I think we are looking at the end of the republic we are starting to shake apart you don't want to miss this interview

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Listening to. We and Data Republican have done in just this last week that even Red State is now reporting on. I'm giving you an article from Red State kind of summarizing everything. It's really remarkable what average people are doing. I mean, they are breaking this up. A few hours ago, Higby said that he's not 100% certain that Flanagan, is the lieutenant governor of Minnesota. Is the name is the same?

He's not 100% sure. He said, however, there's circumstantial evidence that that is her, but I think it's important to point out we don't know for sure. That's why I say the government has to be very, very careful on everything, you know, only come out with the facts when they're doing this. She is involved in stirring up local activists. She has said, you know, that people need to put their bond. in the way of, you know, put their bodies on the line in protest, which, you know, is great.

But here's, here's an interesting fact in the Red State article. Listen to this. It's clear that Walsh Fry in Flanagan want this insurrection to continue because it takes the focus off the massive fraud that has been occurring in that state, much of it with Walsh's knowledge. Believe that's absolutely a fact. That's why this is happening in the way it is. They have got to stop this because it's going to pull a thread all across the country. Related to that, now listen to this, it's interesting that the address where the shooting occurred, this is of good, was at 2614 Nicolette. Now, that address, that's where the shooting occurred. Also, that's the address of an 1,100 square foot building that is home to

eight businesses. Eight. It's 1,100 square feet. So, you know, I mean, just my radio studios that I'm building here and, you know, the office is here for just my radio business is 11,000 square feet. My studios in Dallas are 80,000 square feet. And I have three businesses in that, in that facility. Okay. Uh, 1100 square feet. That's like a New York apartment. And you have eight businesses in there. Now, those eight businesses, listen to, of this, smart therapy center, the new American Development Center, the Nicolette Senior Center, the United Wellness Center, African American Family Services, Millennium Health Services, Bloom Home Health, and Global Interpreting Innovations. Those are the eight businesses in this

1,100 square foot building. Oh, and by the way, by the way, I don't know if you saw the theme there. By the way, there are 184 national provider identifier numbers listed at doing business at that address. 184 provider identifier numbers, so people who are providers that get money, listed at doing business at that 1,100 square foot place. And that is also where the shooting happened. That is weird. That is really. really weird. And it's weird that 184 providers

and eight businesses in 1100 square feet never sent up a single red flag, not one whatsoever. By the way, I think it was Cam Higby that found this, found this. Because he's, he is looking for not only the names of people,

but he's also looking for the, the place that are being used as hubs for this insurrection. Is this one of those hubs? I don't know. Higby has said more information is coming soon. This is quite remarkable.

And it's quite remarkable that you have all of these people involved in this insurrection. And that is who, I want the government to be very, very careful on, and I want to see those people arrested. Because the problem is not the average protester. Now, I don't know how many average protesters are out there in comparison to, you know, how many people are, you know, the diehards, the Turtle Island people.

I don't know. You know, Renee Good, you know, they tried to make her look like just an innocent person, but I don't think she was, you know, she seems to be more of a Turtle Island kind of person. Once you cross that line, once you go from, hey, I just want justice to I want the destruction of the United States of America, you cross a line. Mentally, you cross a line. You're not looking for justice and reconciliation like Martin Luther King. Instead, you're looking for an insurrection and either a civil war or an overthrow of this government. And that makes you different.

same thing with the what was his name Preddy that was shot and I'm going to get into this later because I think this is really important we have to be able to hold two things in our heads at the same time the guy should not have been shot that was that was I don't think it was careless I think that was cops under pressure in a very bad situation you know an 8,000 percent increase on threats on their lives. You know, you tend to get a little nervous. Somebody shouted gun, gun,

gun. The officer pulled out his gun, shot him. Now, he shot him several times, but again, I think that's adrenaline. But, you know, you can, you can look at that and go, that didn't happen the way I think it should have. Um, and I'll withhold judgment on that until everything comes out and everybody's common. We're just looking at facts and hearing everything. But the same thing here can be held on the other guy. You know, when you first look at it, you're like, okay, this guy's not aggressive. And now we're finding out that he had either a bruised or a broken rib

from a confrontation that he had with police just a couple of days ago. Well, that changes things. That changes, I mean, in the court of law, that changes things. Now you're looking and say, wait a minute, he was engaging with the police. This was not an isolated incident. He did bring a gun, and he most likely knew he would somehow or another get into an incident because he just had gotten into an incident with a police officer and had either bruised or broken rib from that.

So we now know he's not just some innocent bystander either. So I don't know how many good guys are actually out on the street and how many are really actually insurrectionist. I know this thing is, you know, is organized by nothing but insurrectionists. And the same thing is happening. Linda Sarsour and the Singham Network are now saying they're going to bring the nation to its knees tomorrow or no, sorry, Friday. I'll bring it to his knees on Friday. Yep.

Because all these people are going to leave work. They're not going to go to school. They're not going to go shopping. They're not going to go to work. Oh, boo-hoo, cry me a river. The rest of us are. Okay? The rest of us are.

But this is something now, I mean, you now have the largest nurses union in the country saying you got to do this. Nurses. This is, to me, the nurses and the doctor thing is the most frightening. Because if you get these nurses and doctors, remember, I played a nurse for you yesterday from Virginia who said, take a syringe. and fill it with, I don't remember what the drug was, but it was a paralytic and jam it into the neck of an ice agent because maybe they'll wake up. You're now talking about jamming a syringe into the neck of an ice agent to make them paralyzed at least for a little while?

Are you out of your mind? That's a nurse that said that. When you get nurses and you get doctors on board in this kind of thinking where, You know what? If they don't take the jab, they're not worth treating. Let them die. Then you're all bets are off. You're in a completely different culture. But this general strike, so you know, this is happening a national shutdown, large-scale marches, and a day of no work, no school, no shopping. Oh, the kids everywhere are very disappointed. It's a Marxist revolutionary People's Forum, the left-wing breakthrough news media outlet,

the party for socialism and liberation, the far left code pink anti-war group, the act now and stop war and end racism, answer coalition, they're all promoting this. So, I mean, I mean,

you're going to join them? Wake up, America. Wake up. Now, I personally don't think that this is going to be a big deal. It might be on some college campuses and in some very, you know, blue cities. But the rest of the country is not going to go that way.

Just not going to go that way. Listen, here's the point of this hour. There are good things happening. And it's people like you. It's normal people who have a skill. Data Republican is just a mole, man. She just knows how to find stuff. Kim Higbee seems to be the same kind of person.

just goes in and knows how to find stuff and is exposing all of it. And you have people, you have people, Ryan Morrow doing the same thing with us yesterday. We exposed a big thing that he found as well in his investigation. So a lot of things are happening. Here is the other thing that I want to point out. The federal government, Donald Trump, just issued a statement today asking for certain things and saying,

there's no there's there's no quarter on this you are going to do these things and that is enforce the federal law you have to turn these criminal aliens over and you know Minnesota is saying they're not going to I think they're going to fight on this one but Donald Trump I believe will be prepared politically he'll also be prepared with the public and the press and of course I wouldn't count him out with Homan on getting the job done right. But he is investigating, FBI is investigating, et cetera, et cetera. But so far, everything that has been found has been found by people like Cam Higby. Can I ask you what the hell we're paying the NSA for? I mean, they have, I don't remember what the spooky computer is called, you know, Colossus, that has every keystroke you've ever made. We have an insurrection going on

and the NSA is not able to track this stuff down and connect all the dots. What the hell did we pay for? Because I know they can track down anything that if you're doing something, they're going to track that down. This is the thing that we need to start asking the government. What the hell did we pay for?

why did we have to give all of this, you know, ground on the Patriot Act? You're recording every keystroke, every American makes. We know it. It's true. So why the hell are we having Cam Higby being the one that is saying, by the way, did you see this? The NSA, the government should be standing up every day going, here it is, and here's the definitive connection to everything that they're doing,

here's how they're all related, and here come the charges. I would expect to see that pretty soon. And if not, again, Pam Bondi, I would ask, why isn't that happening? This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

Chip Roy, not going to pass anything in the house that doesn't include Department of Homeland Security. Yeah, Glenn. That would be a mistake. And yesterday, the House Freedom Caucus, we put out a letter making very clear that if they want to split off Homeland Security, that's not our view. We don't think that's the right way to do it. You know, we passed a bill that funds the Department of Board that it funds for better orders, by the way. I mean, I didn't support a lot. Several bills in this package, right?

The labor age, health care education, a lot of crap in there. I don't like, you know, the provisions in transportation. There's earmarks that I don't like. But we came together. We passed a product in an agreement. I voted for the Homeland Bill, despite some reservation. because we need to fund Border Patrol, we need to fund ICE, and we support, and frankly, we trust the president to get it done. So we should stand by the president, stand behind ICE, stand behind Border Patrol, but we should not isolate Homeland Security and allow it to be a political punching bag by the left.

How is that going to play with the American people? Have you seen any polling on this? I mean, is this popular with the American people? What the Democrats are doing? Just being, oh, right. So, yeah, I mean, I don't believe so. I, you know, look, I haven't seen any polling in the last two days, other than the kind of fly-by-night polling. You've got to get legitimate polling. I think the American people want us to continue to do the job. Now, look, they wanted us to do it the right way.

I mean, Glenn, you and I and most of your listeners are civil libertarians, right? We don't want an authoritarian government just running around arresting random people. But that's not what's happening here. ICE and Border Patrol are trying to zero in and focus on removing bad actors. By the way, Glenn, $1.5. million people in the United States are under orders of removal from a judge. Like, people act like this is just made up stuff. We have massive numbers of people under orders removal.

We have dangerous individuals affiliated with gangs. We have robbers, rapists, sodomists, people that they've been pulling off the streets. And the reason there's difficulty, the reason that ICE and Border Patrol are having more issues is because of the people like Governor Walls and the mayor of Minneapolis who are continuing even today to tweet out that they have no, intent of having their local law enforcement work to remove illegal aliens. Like literally the Minneapolis mayor said that today, which is very clearly unhelpful and not working with the feds to do the job, which is making it harder on them. And we have a duty to enforce the law. I think the American people are with us on that.

And we just stay the course. And the president has made it very, very clear that this is, this is not about going, scooping other people up. This is about give us the people you already have in jail. Give us the people who are criminals and you have warrants on. Give us those people. Right? No, that's exactly right.

And those arrested. Those arrested. You've got to go through the entirety and say, look, it's a cultural thing. If the governor of Minnesota and the mayor of Minneapolis simply said, we will cooperate with federal law enforcement. We will share those people that are in jail, that have been convicted, that have been arrested, And we will share that information to identify the people that must be removed under our laws, including those under court order to be removed. Again, Glenn, we don't have a nation.

We don't have sovereignty if this isn't something we can easily agree to. And if we can't agree to that, that I've got to start thinking about whether it is even possible to be in unity with people who don't believe we should be a sovereign nation. What does that mean, Chip? It means that I don't know how you coexist with a governor of another state who refuses to enforce the law and says that he has the right to put dangerous people on the streets of Minneapolis or Minnesota who can get in their car on I-35 from Minneapolis and be to Dallas or Austin, Texas, within the day. Somebody tell me how that works. It doesn't. You either enforce the laws under our Constitution, or the Constitution gives direct.

authority. Not all this mindless nonsense that these guys typically do, right, where they use the federal government, they use the Constitution, say the federal government can do whatever it wants, whatever program, whatever spending, which, by the way, is not true. But the Constitution directly contemplates that the federal government will be setting the laws with respect to immigration and so forth. Doesn't mean states can't enforce their own laws to secure their border, by the way. But what it does mean is that the federal government has the authority and the duty to be able to uphold our immigration laws and to remove people. And if the states aren't going to work with us on that, then what is left is for people of states like Texas to take the steps necessary to defend our

people. Which means what? Which means we have to start making decisions in Texas about saying, look, maybe we have to start thinking about who's coming into Texas from Minnesota. of. Like, we have to start deciding how are we going to protect our people in the state of Texas? If the other states, if the other leaders in this country are going to thwart the federal government's ability and the federal government's duty to keep us safe and secure. Remember, it was Democrats, these same Democrats that said, oh, you guys just have to deal with wide open borders, which was lawlessness. And the state of Texas is being told, well, you've just got to deal with literally, hundreds of thousands of people flooding into your state. Now they want to have the other argument,

which is now we're going to afford enforcement so that you, the people of Texas, have to be put in danger because we refuse to secure the state of Minnesota or any other state that has a similar track record. So if they're going to upend the rule of law, then we, the people of Texas, and as leaders in Texas, are going to have to make decisions about what are we going to do to protect our own people? So that would raise those questions. where are you coming from? Why are you coming into the state of Texas and where are you from? And whether or not they should be coming into the state of Texas.

Is this to you the way this is unfolding? I mean, I really think because of the huge fraud problem in Minnesota, I think that's why these politicians are acting the way they are. They're looking to make that kind of go away. right? Yep. But with everything that we're seeing, and, you know,

people like Data Republican, Cam Higby are revealing, is this not a clear case for insurrection? Look, I have said, and the Freedom Caucus yesterday said, in the letter we put out that we believe that the president would be well within his rights to invoke the Insurrection Act,

which dates back over 200 years, for justice purpose to make sure that we can, stop this interference. By the way, we can use any number of federal laws from obstruction of justice to specific laws on the books that can be enforced against people interfering with carrying out law enforcement. But again, I just want to remind you, Glenn, I mean, because, and I don't want to speak for you, but I suspect we're some patico here, that we do not like the raw power of the federal government being used to come into states. I'm not looking to go empower massive federal law enforcement individual.

That's not how I'm wired and I don't think that's good. In this case, the sovereignty of the nation and our ability to, what I said before, I know it's somewhat controversial, our ability to exist in the nation, okay, and to unite, requires us to stop the madness and do stop the lack of enforcement of the law. And to your point about the fraud, that's a part of it too, right? that they are stealing money from us in the form of fraud, both taxpayer-funded money as well as borrowed money, to then fund people who are here, whether they're here legally or illegally,

it's both, in order to continue to prop them up and then prevent us from enforcing the law to not have dangerous individuals or people under order to be removed who are using up resources, both legitimate and illegitimate. and that destroys the country. Like Glenn, we won't have a country left. So we either win this battle right now. We either rally around the president and say, enforce the law,

enforce the sovereignty of the country, and do it right. Like Tom Homan going on the ground was a wise move by the president. We need seasoned leadership by somebody who's been there before, who knows how to do it and can do it the right way. Okay? I don't think we should just go around just willy-nilly, but we need to be able to work with law enforcement

and we need to pressure the locals to work with us in order to ensure bad actors are removed. So, Chip, I don't mean to keep hounding you on this. I just don't feel like I understand the answer. I know we have to consider other things, and it will put us in a position to where we have to think about other things. But what are those other things? Because we're entering a time to where the government, which I think is, I think Donald Trump did not waive the right white flag. And Holman being sent there is a real key indication of that. what Trump tweeted this morning about, you know, you got to cover these five things.

He's very clear. You're going to cooperate with the federal government on these things. But, you know, if that doesn't happen, you what, send in more people. You can't seem to arrest anybody because you can't get a judge in, in Minnesota to sign off on any, you know, federal warrant. So what options do we have that are good? adoptions. Well, number one, this is where Congress steps in and has to be able to come together to use the power of the purse, which we have been to your point, which I no doubt, you're no doubt are already thinking and about to say, has not been effective. We continue to fund the things that we complain about, like sanctuary cities. We continue to fund, uh, you know, the, the law

enforcement that is not actually working with us. I think we ought to not do that. Okay. And I think that the president ought to use every power that he can and that OMB director Russ vote can use every power he can to stop funding those people who are at odds with our way of life. But we've got to just continue to, we've got to continue to back the president. The president has to continue to put the heat on these guys and we have to win politically. That's what we have to do. There's no other choice. Right now, if we, to your point, and I don't believe the president is backing up or retreating

or use the phrase waving the white flag. And I agree with you that sending Tom Homan on the ground was a big sign of that and what the president's messaging has been. But we cannot allow them, for example, to shut down Homeland Security funding because they're trying to play this political card after this last weekend. We've got to refocus on fraud. And yes, we do need to figure out and go in and arrest and do the things we need to do. and look, I'm frustrated at my Republican colleagues.

I tried to defund 20% of the budget for the D.C. Circuit Courts and D.C. District judges, Judge Boseberg and Judge Bordman, and they wouldn't do it. We had 40, what, six Republicans who wouldn't do it. So we have to, those of us who believe and recognize what that state, we have to keep our foot on the gas, and we have to be willing to ruffle feathers. I can promise you, a lot of my Republican colleagues were mad that we offered that amendment, Glenn. But I offered it anyway because we have to expose the people who aren't going to recognize what time it is in America. And then we need to make decisions in the primaries this year and this November about what we're going to do to save the country. Because we either save it over these next three years under President Trump and Lord willing win another presidential election or there is no republic left. You and I know this to be true.

You're streaming the best of Glenn Beck. To hear more of this interview and others, download the full show podcasts wherever you get podcasts. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Stu's last day is on Friday, and it couldn't come faster for most of us and the audience. But it's been 27 years that we have been together. And it has truly been great. And he's one of my favorite people in the whole world.

He's really, he is one of the smartest people, one of the, one of the calmest people. He has been really good, especially when I was younger, because I would be very, very hasty to jump and react. And he was always the guy going, probably shouldn't say that,

probably shouldn't do that. Let's wait until we get more facts on that. And it saved me and my career more than I can count. And we really, truly will miss him. Stu started as an intern for me years ago. We met in a at A1 Toyota. He was blowing up balloons and I was alone trying to say,

hey, come on down and look at this car as I was doing mornings years and years ago. And people really reacted to that advice, didn't they? I remember that day approximately zero people came. So it was just me and you. Nobody came. It was a very sad. It was a very sad. Humble beginnings does not really do that, just.

But we sat because nobody came. We sat and we talked for a while and I realized this 18 year old kid was really astute and had studied radio and knew what was good and what was bad and why. And I said, you should leave the promotions department. You should intern for me. And he said in his head, oh, wow, the guy who can't bring a single soul down to A1 Toyota is offering me an internship. How can I say no? Unpaid. An unpaid intership for a guy who can sell approximately zero automobiles. That's, yeah, that was a tempting offer, Glenn. Thank you for it.

Yeah. But still, again, because he's so pathetic, he took it. Look good to me at the time, amazingly. That's where I was in life. That was like, yeah, that sounds great, actually. I think I'll do that. I think I'll do that. And I remember the first day he was with me, I said, come on into the studio. I want to teach you something because I was, I was, I was, I was. was a really good editor at the time. And I said, here, I want to teach you how to edit. And he looked at me, I did the whole thing on tape. And he looked at me and he said, and why would I do that? And I'm like, so you can edit the tape.

And he's like, yeah, let me show you something. He pulled out his laptop. And he did it in a fraction of the time. And I'm like, lesson ended. Thank you. I got it. And I think you've learned an important lesson. You are now the editor of everything.

on this program. Yeah, that's a lesson I've learned with from Glenn over the years, which is the second you show any ability to do a thing, it's part of your new job. It doesn't necessarily mean anything changes. Like you don't drop old parts of your old job.

You just add a new thing to your new job, which doesn't necessarily... If you're better at me, if you're better than me on things, you should be doing it, not me. And I'm not, I'm not, you know, I'm humble. enough to say. There's a lot of things that I shouldn't be doing in this job. And then Stu went on to

write for the show. He was instrumental in developing this show at the very beginning, trying to, you know, put it together, make sense of my ramblings and going, you know, maybe we should cut this and do this. And when we went to Fox, he was the head writer of the Fox show. He and Dan Andros, who was my head writer for a long time at Fox because Stu just decided Dan's better at this than I am so maybe he should take that on. I learned from you.

Again, the apprentice. He learns very well. But which gave me more time to humiliate him on the air. If you remember the Fox show for no reason whatsoever, I would have him dress as a woman as somebody who was like in the federal government or something that was, you know, talking to me about, you know, what Anita Donna is doing or whatever.

There was really no reason other than to humiliate Stu, which we have, that's our relationship. He makes fun of me. I make fun of him. And we all go home happy. Yeah, I think what he just described is I try to make the show better and you make me dress up like a woman. So that's been our relationship. for 28 years, which is, you know, again, who could want it to end? I have also waterboarded you with chocolate milk, which I don't think it's ever been done before.

No, we were trying to understand what waterboarding would be like, and we decided to do it with chocolate milk, which was too chocolatey, if I remember correctly. It was, it was... Hey, remember, that's what you were saying at the end. you were like, as stew chocolate. You know, here's the one thing. Stu is also for the air,

at his own choice, not my, in fact, I was saying, you know, maybe you shouldn't do that. He decided that he was going to drink Roundup. Because he was convinced that it was safe to drink Roundup.

Now, Stu is, a lot of people don't know this. Stu has lost both of his legs and he's blind in one eye. but, you know, so we waterboarded him with chocolate, chocolate milk. He drank Roundup, his idea, not mine, and yet he would never go on any foreign trip with me, which makes me, I don't know if you saw the document or the show by Boz Lerman on Elvis, but it kind of makes me think that you're kind of like Colonel Parker.

There's a reason you can't leave the country. Oh, really? Just say, that's your, yeah, that maybe you thought. Yeah, maybe you're wanted in other countries and so you can never travel. I'm not sure. Can't confirm or deny that one. But I do remember when you did the Israel trip, you know, while missiles were raining down for, you know, whatever reason it was at that particular moment, I did stay home. And you had a, you know, I stand with Glenn Beck T-shirt made up. And I made a, I stand for Israel with Stu in America. which I thought was a perfect people stood with me. Not there. They just stood here and admired what was happening there.

So yes, that did happen. And you did waterboard me. And you know, you've made me. And I also sent you, if I'm not mistaken, I also sent you to the steps of the Philadelphia Art Museum where the Rocky statue used to be. and you lost a bet to me or something. I don't remember what it was, but I made, I remember what it was. Philadelphia. Yes.

Think Philadelphia. He had to go Philadelphia and stand during the whole show at the Rocky statue going, Rocky was a loser too. Well, the context of that was as a Philadelphia Eagles fan, a big fan. It was their Super Bowl that they went to, the one that they lost, unfortunately, to the to the New England Patriots. First one I ever went to. And I needed to like basically say,

hey, I need to take days off that wouldn't normally be, you know, it's January into February, like kind of an early time to be taking vacations in a new year. And I had to basically beg you to allow me to go to the game. And you eventually agreed with this little minor thing that I had to do. afterward that you know you wouldn't tell me for a while and eventually turned into me risking my life in downtown Philadelphia.

After the Eagles lost a game, I had to go up and taunt the people of a city that burns down when they win. So it was not, it was not enjoyable. But I was not, no, it was not the best ideas for your safety. But then again, we're talking to a guy who volunteered to drink Roundup. So, you know. It's accurate. I am glad you've recounted a lot of these things because now I don't need an opening statement for the litigation, which is, just play this. I just play it straight through. And the judge, I think, will make the right decision. But no, it's been, we've had, you know, it's amazing. I've posted something on Twitter and X, just saying, hey, like, we're going to be on for a few more days. there's anything you ever wanted to know the backstory of if you ever wanted to know, you know,

you know anything that you might remember from the past that you wanted to hear about or anything that particularly embarrasses Glenn in some major way. Make sure to let me know. And, you know, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of comments of people, just things that I don't, Glenn, I don't even think we could tell the stories because I don't, half of them I don't even remember. It's amazing to see how many that, how many things that have happened, how many big things that have happened, all the people we've talked to, all the, you know, the controversies that you've undoubtedly caused, all those things. It's been a long road. It's going to be hard to, it's going to be hard to go through a week, you know, thinking, you know, the career won't just fall apart because

of something that you say or, or that we might just have an angry mob outside the door at any time. I'm not sure how I'll adjust to it, but it's been a really fun journey. I remember, I mean, things have changed. much. I remember it was 2002 and September 2002. And Stu and I and my wife for some reason, I was flying into someplace or flying from someplace. And we met, I don't even remember Hartford or something, or Boston. We had a drive to Kenny Bunkport because George Bush was going to give us an interview about September. 11th, 2001. And, and Stu had a brand new device that he had never used before. I think it was,

was it still tape at that time? It was like a digital recorder of some sort that we had purchased for, this is, gosh, it feels to me that it was a little bit later than that, but it was George, it was, yeah, the Kennebunkport house that they had. It was the one year. Yeah, it was one year anniversary. Yeah, one year anniversary of 9-11. And so we had, we got the okay, very close, like, the day before the interview that they were going to go through with it. So we had to go up there. Yeah, I was someplace else. I had to meet Stu someplace. And then we got a rental car. And it was the first time either of us had seen GPS. And we're driving at two o'clock in the morning up to Kenny Bunkport. And it's in the fog and all these roundabouts and everything else. And we only got there because of GPS. But the whole time that Stu was in the car, neither of us slept. and we arrive just in time for the interview. We go in and the whole time Stu is in the car,

he's like, I'm not sure this is going to work. I don't know. I mean, there's no way to check if this is recording. You know, I hope it works. And he set the whole thing up. I've never seen Stu as white and as pale as this. We go in, George Bush walks in. We sit down for the interview.

We talk to him for about half, you know, half an hour. and Stu is just behind him, in my eye shot, just looking at me with sweat pouring down his face. Like, I don't know. He kept looking at me like, I don't know if any of this is being recorded. And George Bush left, right? Yeah, and I had two different recording devices. Like, we had a regular and a backup,

neither which I had ever used. I had to take them out of the box that night and try to figure out how to use them because of the short notice that we were going on. And I, you know, I was talking to my son the other day. Like, who's the most famous, you know, person that you guys have talked to over the years? And, you know, it's presidents of the United States, right? Like, the various presidents of the United States.

Like, it's that, it's the easy answer because, you know, that's what we've done. And I remember going there and trying to do this and setting all that stuff up. And we had some time in the hotel where we were supposed to sleep. And I just stayed up all night, just taking it, testing it over and over and over. I remember it all laid out on my bed in the hotel or the, you know, bed and breakfast or whatever it was. it was in Kennebunkport, Maine. And it was all laid out the wires. I had all the wires set up so I could put it in the bag

and just remove it from the bag exactly as is. I didn't have to do any other connections. I had proven that it had worked over and over again. I was so nervous that we were going to do an interview with the president, a former president in the United States. And it all got. And it all be gone. And so we finished the interview.

And I'm like, thank you, Mr. President. It's been wonderful to hear the story. Thank you. And we'll air this soon. He's like, when will it be on the air? And I said, it's probably tomorrow. It'll be on the air. And I kind of meant probably.

And he left the room and I looked at Stu and I went, Dear God, tell me we have that recorded. And he's just, he has his headphones on and he's listening. He's like, oh, yes, it was recorded. It was the most fly-by-night thing. I think we ever did. And I'm so happy to say we don't have to worry about any of those problems anymore. Because now we just don't care if it's.

recorded or not. Oh, yeah. Well, now it's been plenty of years. Who cares? But I will say one thing, I don't know if you remember. It's a detail of this, Glenn. You know, as I mentioned, there was two, I had two different systems recording it at the same time. One of them did fail. We actually didn't get it on one of the two. And so, and I think that was the first one I listened to. First one, you checked. I checked. And it was, there was just nothing. It was just, it had worked 50 times in a row at the hotel. And then it didn't work when we recorded the actual interview. you luckily the second one picked it up. So I didn't get fired and my exit was, you know, 20 something years ago instead of on Friday, which might have been better for you.

All right. Let me tell you, no, it wouldn't have been.