The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Rep. Chip Roy | 7/1/25

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

Democrats have dropped 51 points in being proud Americans since 2001. Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) joins to discuss the long road Trump’s "big, beautiful bill" has to pass as the Senate is taking an axe ...to critical issues in the bill. Glenn gives an important message for the July Fourth weekend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 New poll shows Democrats are less proud to be an American than they were after 9-11 by 51 points. That's quite a fall. But when you hear the things that have been said over the last 25 years, I think you can understand why they might feel that way. So what do we do about it? Also, Chip Roy is on a little passionate about the BBB, the big beautiful bill. And a reminder of what this week is really all about. It's not Fourth of July weekend. It is Independence Day weekend.
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Starting point is 00:03:04 So 87% of Democrats in 2001, extremely proud to be an American. Now 36%. It's a slight drop off That's a slight Slight, slight No way to keep a country No way to keep a country No now the number for Republicans
Starting point is 00:03:20 Relatively consistent Right actually up Yes I think slightly Up two points Yeah Now was this in the aftermath The immediate aftermath of September 11th Is that why it's so high
Starting point is 00:03:31 With Democrats Maybe Maybe maybe I think that I mean let's look at this though You know Before September 11th You know
Starting point is 00:03:41 We all thought that we were all pretty much the same. We all thought we were pretty much the same. And there were those that were on under the fringes. But in the last 25 years, I mean, what have you heard about? If you're a Democrat, what have you heard about? You've heard about the genocide of indigenous peoples. You've heard about the massacres and the forced removals and the trail of tears and the boarding schools and the broken treaties and slavery and the legacy of racism
Starting point is 00:04:05 and colonialism and colonialism and the annexation and the taking of Hawaii and the conquest of the Philippines and Puerto Rico's now a colony and all the CIA-backed coups and the inclusion or exclusion in the internment camps and the Chinese Exclusion Act and the Japanese Americans and the Muslim for surveillance and how anti-Muslim we are. We're all really afraid of all Muslims. The anti-Labor repression, the Ludlow massacre, Cointel Pro, the labor organizers and civil rights activists that have just been oppressed the whole time. And women were denied their vote until 1920 and they were restricted roles in the workforce and politics and reproductive rights and
Starting point is 00:04:50 and all of the what did we do on HIV? We did nothing on HIV and homosexual rights. My gosh, we're still throwing people off of buildings if you're a homosexual and trans don't even get me started with trans. And then the environmental exploitation. The rivers that have been set on fire, the poison communities. Look at Flint, Michigan, and the land is stripped for profit. Now we want to sell our own national parks. The medical racism, the abuse, and the Tuskegee experiment, and the forced sterilizations, and the racial bias and health care that's still evident today, you know. Suppression of dissent with the Palmer raids and McCarthyism and the surveillance of civil rights
Starting point is 00:05:30 leaders and the protest criminalization. You can't even go out now and set any fires on the streets without being deemed a radical or revolutionary, and they want to throw you in jail just for breaking into a Macy's. And capitalism, it's nothing but an exploitation. Capitalism inherently generates inequality and alienation and commodifies every human relationship. You know, the state has nothing more than a tool of class denomination and the police and the courts and the military.
Starting point is 00:06:02 All they do is protect the elite interest, not to public welfare. They're against you, you know, be afraid of the police. And private property and wealth is just hoarded by the wealthy. Their inherited wealth, the land monopolies, the billionaire class accumulation is just fundamentally unjust. And then we have a two-party system. It's nothing but a managed illusion. Real power resides with donors, lobbyists, the unelected bureaucrats, the military, permanent war economy, the prison industrial complex, the gender,
Starting point is 00:06:35 and patriarchal control, the surveillance, capitalism, and let me, don't even get me started on the genocide, the climate genocide. That's all you've heard for 25 years. That's all you've heard.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And some of that stuff is true. Some of it is true. But tell me, where is the perfect nation? Where is the nation that is better than that? Where is the nation that has corrected itself over and over and over again? You know, we've been told over and over about how bad America is, how America is just broken. Let me ask you, what would your life be?
Starting point is 00:07:29 How different would your life be if America hadn't existed? Because you live in a world now that America built. Not alone, not uniquely. but decisively, decisively, we change the world forever. And in many good ways, you know, you've grown up only hearing the sins. Can you pause for just a minute today? Just a minute. Because the nation's story is not propaganda.
Starting point is 00:08:06 It's proof. Yes, it's brutal. Yes, it's flawed. Yes, it's ugly. Yes, it's undeniable. But there's also some undeniable truths. that one country rooted in liberty reshaped the planet, yes, for good. I mean, most people likely think World War II was just a foregone conclusion.
Starting point is 00:08:34 If they even studied it, if they even know who Hitler was, if they know what fascist, what the difference between fascism in 1930 and fascism today. It wasn't a foregone conclusion. Without America, Hitler wins. Japan keeps the Pacific. Fascism becomes the dominant force of the 20th century. Oh my gosh, we just went over and all we tried to do is just kill the Japanese. We just wanted to vaporize the Japanese.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Do you know what the Japanese military did? They were worse than the Germans, but we never focused on that, did we? America mobilized faster, produced more, fought longer than anyone else. We built more tanks and planes than the Axis combined. We led the invasion that broke the Nazi grip. We dropped food as well as bombs. Did you know that? We did something even rarer.
Starting point is 00:09:36 We didn't conquer. We rebuilt. And while communism tried to replace fascism, we were the ones on the front line and stood our ground again. For 45 years, we held the line. Not with brute force alone, but with ideas, with culture, with freedom, with genes. with music, with hope. If you think communism is great,
Starting point is 00:10:06 talk to somebody who lived under communism. You've been lied to your whole life. Your school, while you say America is just indoctrinated people, try your school. Try your university. Question things. Why do you question power, but you don't question the power of the university?
Starting point is 00:10:29 the Soviet Union collapsed because people wanted what America had and not genes. They wanted freedom. They wanted the freedom to express themselves. They wanted freedom to be able to create their own music, live their own life, to buy the things they wanted to own something. Do you know that before America's rise, extreme poverty was the norm, extreme poverty? Kings had jewels. Nobody else had jewels. You had dirt. And you didn't even own that dirt. And then came the engine of capitalism. It pioneered. It scaled. It was exported by the U.S. Yes, we did export capitalism. Oh my gosh, that was just nothing but exploitation. No, it wasn't. It was innovation. It was supply chains, trade routes, machines, markets, standards.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It was also charity. Over a billion human beings lifted from starvation-level poverty. Let me say that again. Over a billion humans lifted from starvation-level poverty in just 50 years. You know, here behind me is a pot-pelly stove, an old stove. You know where that pot-belly stove came from? That pot-belly stove behind me, I don't know if you can see it. We're sitting over there in the corner right there.
Starting point is 00:12:03 That old pop belly stove. You know who invented that? Ben Franklin. You know what else Ben Franklin did? Ben Franklin, oh, he's a monster. Ben Franklin also developed what's called the patent. Do you know what a patent is? Do you know that America invented the patent?
Starting point is 00:12:20 It was Ben Franklin that said, we have to have a patent. Why? Because you want to talk about exploitation. Before America, you could invent something and you had no power to keep it. There was no such thing as your invention. You could invent it, but some rich guy would come and steal it right from underneath you.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And they would get rich, and you would get nothing. You left, you led your life in poverty because you couldn't invent and then scale anything. You would invent, somebody else would steal it, they would get rich. It was Ben Franklin, one of our founders. said this exploitation has got to stop. And he, when he took an invented thing after thing after thing, like the pot belly stove, which brought heat into people's houses.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Do you know what the number one cause of death for women was? At the time, the number one cause of death for women was burning to death because they would cook over the fire in the house and their dress or their clothing would catch fire and they would burn to death. The number one cause was burned to death. Potbelly stove kept that fire tamed. It heated the house. It gave you something to cook on without the open flame.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And do you know how much money Ben Franklin made on this? Oh my gosh, the exploitation. None. Why? Because he refused. The guy who invented the patent decided not to patent it. Because he felt it was right to give. this to the world. It was his choice. It wasn't the government telling him. It was his choice.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Because not only did he believe in the wealth of nations, but Adam Smith, he also believed in moral sentiments. You had to be good and decent. How about the Green Revolution? No, not the one you think about. The Green Revolution, an American scientist, an American scientist saved up to two billion lives with seeds. That's the real green revolution. Today your phone is made in Asia. Yeah, I know you hate this global thing. You hate the American system.
Starting point is 00:14:36 It was made in Asia. It was shipped to you globally, sold online, all through systems created by American globalization. We wrote the operating system for modern freedom. Every modern democracy borrows from our constitution. Our founders invented a government designed to limit power. And what have you done on the left? You have only grown the power. You know, there used to be a thing that the right did.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And the left used to be for small government, for human rights, for constitutional rights. You're not for that now. You're not for the separation of powers. You're for consolidating all of the powers. Are you for the free press while you silence people on X? Regular elections, due process. This didn't come from perdition.
Starting point is 00:15:34 It didn't come from a king. It came from America. All of those things. Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison. They didn't just write rules. They lit a fuse. From Tiananmen Square to Tehran, dissidents quote our words. They hold our flags.
Starting point is 00:15:53 That's not nationalism. That's impasse. You are told today we never walked on the moon And you think you're educated Talk to somebody about the mirrors and the laser systems That we have on the moon now How'd they get there? What movie were they put in?
Starting point is 00:16:21 Americans made this happen. You're online today Because the Pentagon that you hate so much built the internet. You carry a supercomputer in your pocket Because of the moonshot and Silicon Valley. You know the phrase app store, cloud, AI, all American inventions, all of them. When new therapies or treatments are pioneered, MRNA, robotic surgery, cancer breakthroughs. They usually start here.
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Starting point is 00:18:33 Chip Roy is with us from the great state of Texas. Chip is a congressman and welcome to the program. How are you, Chip? Well, Glenn, I'm, you know, just continuing to work through and trying to deliver for the American people, but it's getting hard. I'm with you. I'm tired of this bill right now. Yeah, you're living the dream, brother. You are just living.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Who doesn't want your job? My gosh, what a glorious, glorious, fun-filled life you must live. So tell me. There's no sarcasm at all in what you're just saying, none at all. Tell me, has this thing gotten better or worse? Unfortunately, Glenn, I believe it's gotten worse. Now, we've not seen the final product out of the Senate. We don't have the text.
Starting point is 00:19:21 We've got to review it. I try to be level-headed through these things. I have enormously strong and good friends in the administration who in good faith want to see this pass. Just as you do, just as I do, just the American people do. They want to see us move forward legislation to make tax cuts permanent. to deliver on the border funding that we need. You know, Stephen Miller is a long-time friend.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I've known for 25 years. Russ Vote is a longtime friend. I've known for 25 years. We've been working together in the trenches for as long as I can remember. We all want to deliver. The problem is the swamp is going to swamp. And right now we have a bill
Starting point is 00:19:58 that in my estimation violates the House framework, but more importantly, would add significantly to the deficits. Now, we have differing views. More than it did. More than it did, right? By quite a bit, in my view. And look, there's going to be a debate about this, about tax cuts and revenues and all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:20 And I get it. It's baselines, you know, CBO, all these different things. I'm just telling you, Glenn, as objectively as I can, I look at the math, and I look at how you factor in economic growth, which I'm doing, factor in revenues and expenditures. and what we're doing on mandatory spending, which is not enough. The fact that we're only repealing half of the green new scam, if we're lucky, the fact that we're continuing to allow Medicaid to go to illegals because of some arcane Senate rules, the fact that we're continuing to allow Obamacare subsidies to fund transgender surgeries, the fact that we are going to, in my estimation, have probably a couple of trillion of deficit spending,
Starting point is 00:21:08 in the first four years, which means you're going to have more interest, which means it's going to stack up all to get savings in the out five years. That's not what you and I signed up for. Now, I'm looking at this trying to say, okay, the president wants the tax cuts, so do I. The president wants borders, so do I. I think the president wants us to repeal the entirety of the green news scam. I think the president wants us to get good reforms. Be careful. like handle Medicaid appropriately and all of that for our American citizens that are vulnerable or depend on it. But we haven't delivered because the Senate has a bunch of people in it who don't want to deliver. And they're hiding behind the parliamentarian and they're delivering it's a subpar product that I didn't come to Washington to sign up for, Glenn.
Starting point is 00:21:55 All right. So let me ask you this. They're hiding behind the parliamentarian. Is that, I mean, they say there was a change. in the bill because Medicare paid to illegals and the parliamentarian said you've got to keep it in there some arcane
Starting point is 00:22:12 rule or what. Couldn't the Senate Republicans just ignore that? Is it fair to... What? They could overrule the parliamentarian. They could make a choice if they wanted to do so. Now, you know, then they'll say well, some of these things take 60 votes and so
Starting point is 00:22:29 forth. If they want to address this, they can address it. But the real issue here is behind closed doors, what you know is that there are senators who don't want to make the reforms, don't want to make the changes. They're making their own policy choices based on what they want. Right? You've got Lisa Murkowski right now, instead of wanting to reform Medicaid, she wants to get a special carve out for additional spending for people in Alaska. You've got, you know, Tillis, you've got others.
Starting point is 00:23:05 they want us to go the wrong direction when it comes to Medicaid reform. And Glenn, I've got to be honest, how many times have you and I been on the phone over the last decade talking about shutdown fights on discretionary spending, like every two years? Oh, I know. Countless times. Every time we have one of those fights, the people in this town say, Chip, you need to shut up
Starting point is 00:23:28 because the real problem is mandatory spending. It's Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid. It's not fighting over all this stuff. You're wasting our time. I didn't think it was a waste of our time. I didn't think we should be funding weaponized government. I didn't think we should continue to jack up spending for the alphabet soup of regulations killing America. But I said, okay, guys, here we are.
Starting point is 00:23:49 We're going to do this reconciliation package. We're going to reform Medicaid, right? We had to fight like cats and dogs to get the reforms and the work requirements we got out of the house. It was good, not great. the Senate, now they're working through it, and they're fighting every inch. And it got actually a little better in certain respects, thanks to Rick Scott. He's been fighting hard, Mike Lee, Ron Johnson. We got a little bit more on what's called provider taxes.
Starting point is 00:24:15 But overall, we're not meeting the moment. We're not getting enough Medicaid reform. We're getting the watered down stuff on illegals. How about remittance taxes, Glenn? We passed a measure in the House to tax money going from America, from people here illegally, back to their own countries. The Senate watered it down and got rid of two-thirds of it. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Why? Why? Why? Why? Because they don't like the policies, Glenn. Because here's the thing. There were bankers, banks, who came in and said, guys, this would be really hard on us. If we had to enforce this policy of money flowing from our banks and institutions to Mexico and to, you know, Colombia and places, we really need a carve out so that banks aren't going to be attacked by this. And then they go, but it would be way too burdens among the people who come here and they're
Starting point is 00:25:09 honest and they're working hard and they want to send money to their families. Look, you and I both have a hard as people say if we want to say, hey, I get it. You've got an honest person here who's following the law. They came here legally. They want to send money back home to their country. They can still do that. They can still find a way to do that. But we're taxing.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And the Senate said, no, we're not going to do it. But the biggest thing at the end of the day, deficits go up, and I didn't sign up for deficits to go up. You're not going to vote for the... You're not voting for this. I cannot vote for this as it's currently structured. If we can come to some agreement. Look, and Glenn, this is important. The president rightly wants us to find a way to get a bill done.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I get that, man. I want to deliver for six months. I've been busting my butt. I voted for a bill that came out of the House. that I didn't like that wasn't good enough, but I thought it was an important step. I worked to come up with a budget framework with Jody Harrington and others
Starting point is 00:26:05 to figure out how to get this done and get it out of the house. I think we made progress. We did get Medicaid reforms that were good. We did get some tightening down on the green use scam when others didn't want to do it. But we're now fighting a Senate that's watering down important stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:21 And importantly, the way they can cock the tax and spend policies, overall, I can't look at this any way objectively without telling my voters, the people that sent me to Washington to represent them, the deficits will go up. Now, last point, the president and the administration will say, look, guys, don't worry about all that. We'll make it up with tariffs, and we think higher economic growth. Well, two things. Number one, on the economic growth front, we assumed growth in our bill, Glenn. We assumed 2.6% growth. Now, you might say, well, gosh, we can do three or four, Yeah, but we have to do a 10-year budget.
Starting point is 00:26:58 2.6% growth is a lot higher than what we've been experiencing the last two decades on average. We picked a sweet spot of 2.6% growth. It is true that if we have 4% growth for a decade, we will have much more revenue. I hope that's true. You hope that's true. And if it is true, then great. It's gravy that will give us money to buy down the debt and save money and get the deficits down further. but I can't budget to 3.5% growth when we've been sitting at 2% growth.
Starting point is 00:27:29 It'd be irresponsible. So I'm with you, Chip, I'm with you. And I've said this for a long time. The Republicans are going to lose. They are going to lose. And they're going to lose because you're just not delivering for the American people, what you promised you would. Donald Trump seems to be, you know, at least he's trying.
Starting point is 00:27:52 he's doing a lot of the things he promised he would do. I don't see that happening with the Republicans. And so, you know, I don't know what the midterm is going to look like. But I will tell you this, he has to have that tax cut. He's got to have it. If we don't get that tax cut, everything the Republicans have been trying to do or the Republican voters have wanted, it's over. It's over because the economy will spiral out of control without that tax cut. Agree or disagree?
Starting point is 00:28:24 I do agree that we must deliver on the tax cut, and I believe we will. When push comes to shove, there's no way that we're going to get to December and not provide an extension of the tax cuts that were so important in 2017. Now, I want to remind everybody, the corporate rates were made permanent already, right? What we're talking about dealing with is the expiration of certain personal tax issues, marginal rates, but also child tax credits. also the standard deduction, et cetera. Now, I'm not sure how, you know, I've got different views on different ones of those policies.
Starting point is 00:29:00 But overall, we want to ensure that that money is staying in the pockets of the American people. We have to deliver on that. But I will tell you this, if we don't address the inflation tax, if we don't address the extent to which people are fleeing American bond markets because we're so irresponsible, then we're going to be doing a disservice to our kids and grandkids who can't. afford a house. They can't buy a house because the mortgage rates are too high. They can't afford it now, Chip. They can't afford it now. I think what we need to do. Like I'm prepared to go back to the drawing board today. I don't need to go home tomorrow or the next day. Let's just let's get busy. We've been working on it. Let's tighten down some of the spending. Let's tweak what we've been doing and get the
Starting point is 00:29:46 tax policy done and get it set. Let's go back to House bill, for example, that we passed. It was a good solid bill and get the Senate to adopt it and pass it or make some modest changes. But we got to get rid of some of these ridiculous things like Medicaid for illegal aliens, like, you know, pork that's going through Alaska, like specific giveaways. And, you know, get rid of those things, go back to the House bill, make sure the inflation reduction acts getting terminated and make sure this the map adds up. We'll deliver on the tax cuts, deliver on board, deliver for the president. I'm prepared to do that.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I don't do that. But I'm not going to swallow a crappy bill because the Senate tries to jam me with it before July 4th. I have to tell you, I don't know how it is unpopular to say, no, we're not giving illegals. Any Medicaid? We're not. I mean, do you remember who was it that was in Congress when Barack Obama talked about Obamacare? And he said, you lie. Joe Wilson, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:30:43 And everybody had a cow. Well, look at what we're doing now. Look at what we're doing. Well, look at what we're giving illegals. No, the answer is no, no, no, no. And I don't understand how that is not so simple. I don't understand any Republican that doesn't understand the Green New Deal. No. No. USAID. No. Doge. Cut it. Why can't they see what I just, I, there is, I mean to telling you, Chip, I'm sorry, I don't mean to take this out on you because you're one of the good guys. You've been trying to do this.
Starting point is 00:31:16 we are in between a rock and a hard place. The president has to have what the president needs to get the economy going. We wait until January. You're right on top of the midterms. The president is not turning this economy around fast enough because he can't get anyone in Congress to do jack crap on anything. You need to cut the fricking spending and the waste and the garbage. And I tell you, I am with Elon Musk 100%.
Starting point is 00:31:50 100%. You are one of these weasel Republicans who don't, who just go along and just be like, you know what? We're going to add another $5 or $6 trillion to our debt. I'm done. I'm done. And Elon has said, I will, if it's the last thing I do, I will make sure none of these people get reelected. That's not going to be good. It's not going to be good for the republic, let alone the Republican parties.
Starting point is 00:32:17 But you know what? I've had enough. I've had enough. And I think the American people have to. Glenn, I can just tell you this. July 4th is obviously Friday, Independence Day, 249 years ago. And we always celebrate it. We celebrate their courage.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And we celebrate Lexington and Concord. And we celebrate all that they stood for. We celebrate the men that stormed the beaches in Normandy. And we celebrate all of the great courage. that our men and women in uniform are done to fight to give us this country. How can I say, no, sorry, I'm going to vote for this bill because there's going to be some political pressure. When I regale the boys at the Alamo sitting there taking bullets knowing they were going to die
Starting point is 00:32:57 or those that ran into a wall of bullets in Normandy, look, we have to deliver. We have no choice. We all agree on that. I'm sure I'm going to get labeled, you know, any number of things that I'm not delivering on the president's agenda that I'm jamming up a bill. Look, and I get it. And I'm not going to get defensive about it. The president wants his bill and he's right to want his bill. But Congress has to deliver a bill worth sending him. And I'm prepared to stay here until we do. But I'm not going to vote for a bill because I'm being told I have to because a bunch of freaking losers who are swamp creatures
Starting point is 00:33:31 who want pork and giveaways and don't have the cahones to stand up and deliver for the American people and to actually reduce spending and not hide behind the problem. and not hide behind tax cuts. They want to hide behind the tax cuts to tell me and the border, to tell me you've got to vote for this bill and don't worry about the spending. No, kiss my ass. I'm going to stand up and fight for the border and the tax cuts and the spending cuts. We've got to do it.
Starting point is 00:33:58 It was very reminiscent of Daniel Boone there for just a second. It was, or Davey, sorry, Davy Crockett, not Daniel Boone. So thank you for that. Chip, God bless. Have a great holiday. Stand firm in what you believe in and just keep a fight. I appreciate the attitude that you have towards the president. Give the president what he needs.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Fight for the president what he's asking for. But you've got to fight the swamp at the same time. Have to. Have to. Thank you, Chip. Appreciate it. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Years ago, I think it is tomorrow, right?
Starting point is 00:34:43 Is tomorrow the second? or is it the first? What day is it today? Tomorrow's the second. So it was 249 years ago tomorrow that somebody sat alone in a one-room hotel room and scratched out the words when in the course of human events. Those are the first six words of a document that is so dangerous, still today, so revolutionary. It was whispered in those candlelit rooms by men who knew knew that if I signed this document, that's a death warrant.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I'm dead. I'm dead. When in the course of human events. Sh! Jefferson wrote them. 33 years old. Adams would later say, You do well to revere Jefferson, but he didn't write alone, basically.
Starting point is 00:35:41 I was there, too. was Ben Franklin. The ideas were forged in the minds of men like Franklin, who was old enough to know better, and Adams, who was stubborn enough, stubborn enough, not to care. And they weren't perfect men. I love this about the left. They try to make you think that, yo, you think they're perfect.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I don't think they were perfect. I mean, Ben Franklin used to walk around naked in his house a lot. That shows, I mean, for as smart as that guy was, it shows maybe he had a lack of mirrors, but they weren't perfect. They owned slaves. They argued. They compromised. How does that make them different than us?
Starting point is 00:36:23 I mean, we should be able to relate to them. What is it that we tolerate right now? What is it that we compromise on? What are our failures that future generations are going to go, these people just didn't get it. Perhaps what we should notice is that they, unlike most of us, they were willing to gamble their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor for something that had never, ever been done before. Something entirely new.
Starting point is 00:36:58 The idea that rights don't come from a government or from a king or from a parliament. They don't come from the majority voting. Everyone has certain rights. You know, for all these people who are, you know, going in Macy's and burning down, towns and then stealing clothing and they're like, because I've been oppressed. You can't. I've got rights, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah, yeah. You know who the first people were to articulate those rights? You know the only country that actually has stood for those rights? And we're imperfect. That idea came from the founders that you say you hate. But the actual rights come from God, which you dismiss. Think of this. Just ponder this for a second.
Starting point is 00:37:53 That all men are created equal. That their rights are given to them by a creator. It's not a political assertion. It's a genius. That's eternal truth. That's theological dynamite. Lobbed straight into the thrones of Europe. All over the world.
Starting point is 00:38:16 It's still dynamite. They knew what they were doing. And I don't mean like, they know what they were doing. They didn't know. No, they knew that the British crown had the largest military force in the world. And these guys, they were farmers. They were printers. They were lawyers.
Starting point is 00:38:39 They were a rag-tag collection of intellectual and idealists facing down an empire where they said, the sun never set on the British Empire, meaning the colonialism was everywhere. You could not escape England. And yet they declared it. We're leaving without apology. And they said that when a government becomes destructive of the ends of liberty, life, and the pursuit of happiness, it's not only the right of the people, it's their duty to throw it off.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Wow. And you know what's amazing? that's not rebellion. That's, that's, that's, that's not revolution. That's, that's responsibility. That, that kind of language today, that it have you flagged, shadow band, labeled an extremist, in most countries disappeared. But that is the foundation of what we call America, the American experiment. And it's just that, an experiment. We didn't know if we could get it right and we haven't gotten it right. But isn't it worth experimenting? Isn't it worth trying to get that concept right? When you fail on that concept, you're like, that's a stupid idea. That's not a
Starting point is 00:39:57 stupid idea. That's the greatest idea of all time. Why are so many people willing to just quit? The experiment is self-rule. It's not perfect. Never has been. Slavery, Jim Crow, internment camps, assassinations. My God, forgive us for what we have done. but at the same time what nation has done more to correct its own errors, what people have shed more blood, not for conquest, but for freedom. Twice in the last century we crossed oceans, not to claim territory, but to liberate that territory. Our sons and daughters fought and bled on foreign soil to push the darkness back to fight against Nazism and fascism and communism. And here we are. Here we are today.
Starting point is 00:40:54 After 249 years tomorrow of that experiment, standing at the lip of the very abyss, those men feared. A godless chaos rising in the east and a cold atheistic utopia clawing at the foundations of the Western world. Islamism and communism, two ideologies that have killed tens of millions,
Starting point is 00:41:21 of millions of people now dressed all in new robes selling old lies. And we can't even teach a child where their rights come from. We've replaced Jefferson and Adams with TikTok influencers and bureaucratic groupthink. We're raising generations to not even know the truth about their own identity, but to question their identity and they could be, oh, you're a funny, funny, colored unicorn today.
Starting point is 00:41:53 What do you want to be tomorrow? We don't teach them anything about truth or their inheritance, most importantly. Their inheritance. What good are hot dogs and fireworks if the soul of the nation is up for auction? What is the meaning in Fourth of July if we've forgotten the why? We don't even call it Independence Day anymore. Most people don't even know who we fought against for independence. They think we fought for independence.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Most people think we fought the South. And yet we'll light the sparklers and blow our fingers off because we're just that stupid. This Independence Day weekend, would you do me and yourself and your country of favor and read the words out loud? Speak the words out loud. when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with one another
Starting point is 00:43:02 and to assume among the powers of earth the separate but equal station to which the laws of nature and nature's God entitle them a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation What are they saying? Look, we want to be decent people.
Starting point is 00:43:29 We want to be decent people. And we have to separate, but we believe it's only right that we tell you why we have to separate. And it's not because of all the bad things you've done. We'll get to those later. It's because we're different and you don't understand. You have been telling us all of these things we no longer believe in. We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal. endowed by their creator with certain
Starting point is 00:43:56 unalienable, unchangeable rights. And just among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. My gosh,
Starting point is 00:44:15 read those words and let your children hear what thinking and courage sounds like. That to secure these rights, I'm telling you, the king, who thinks that your government was given to you by God and you are the ruler. And you will tell everybody what to think, what to do, what to buy, what to sell, what to tax, what not to tax. Who gets land, who doesn't get land? No, no, no. Governments are instituted among men deriving their powers, their just powers, from the people. And that government is only
Starting point is 00:44:53 there established by those men to protect the rights that God has given each of those men. Let them feel the chill that runs down the spine when Jefferson writes, governments are instituted among men driving their just powers from the consent of the government or from the governed. Let them hear the words of responsibility. What responsibility sounds like with courage and freedom. that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these rights, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute a new government,
Starting point is 00:45:36 laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness. In other words, you have the right, you have the responsibility to stop tyrants. and if the government has gone bad to throw that government off, but reconstitute a government that will do a better job at protecting those rights, not to form a communist government, not to do anything else,
Starting point is 00:46:04 but you want a new government, fine. Let's find the way to make men more free. This is not a metaphor. This is a declaration of war on tyranny in all of its forms. I mean, I said yesterday, freedom. isn't free, was paid for by somebody's blood, but you have to remember, they paid for their freedom, not for our freedom necessarily. It comes a time we have to pay for our freedom, and God forbid that it comes down to blood, but at least shake off the apathy. We must renew
Starting point is 00:46:41 this promise of this experiment of America. We need to fight for it as well, an out-of-control government that seeks to rope us into forever wars over and over again. We're all against forever wars. I'm against it. I hate them. But there is one forever war that is required in a free society, a different kind of forever war. A war against ourselves.
Starting point is 00:47:06 A war against human nature in each of us. Because of human nature, we get fat, we get lazy, we get tolerant of abuses. Let your children hear you speak. these words, and when you speak them, ponder them yourself. Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes. And accordingly, all experience has shown that mankind is more disposed to suffer while the evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms in which they're accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing,
Starting point is 00:47:48 invariably the same object invinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism? It's their right. It's their duty to throw off such government and to provide new guards for their future security. In one paragraph, they make the point twice and they tell us, look, we've studied people. We know you're going to get fat and lazy and apathetic. And you're not going to want to do stuff for transient causes because this is really not. good. But when push comes to shove and everything is moving towards absolute despotism, absolute tyranny, then you must stand up. I ask you to ponder this, this particular part when a long train of abuses and usurpations. Prudence will indeed dictate that governments
Starting point is 00:48:43 long established should not be changed for light and transient causes. And accordingly, all experiences shown that mankind is more disposed to suffer. while the evils are sufferer than to right themselves. Aren't we exactly the same people that their experience was talking about? Aren't we the people that are more disposed to suffer than to write ourselves? Because we're too comfortable or we're too afraid just to stand up and simply say no to lies. No, there is a difference between men and women. No, communism is to be feared.
Starting point is 00:49:27 It's killed over a hundred million people in the last 100 years. No, Muslims aren't bad. Islamism is. It's evil. No, you can peacefully protest any time, any place, and I will fight to the death for your right to do that. But when you start burning cities down to the ground, No. We're just a few days away.
Starting point is 00:49:59 We mark our 249th birthday. Maybe. Just maybe. This year, can we stop asking what America was and start deciding what America will be before it just slips quietly into history in the dark of apathy and ignorance? Because the only thing more dangerous than tyranny is the people who have forgotten what it took to break its chains. When you were little, you had braced some of class of recrace, always in trying to
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