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Episode Date: September 26, 2019Glenn reads through the declassified whistleblower complaint – and it’s NOT about Joe Biden. The Media is OMITTING over 500 words of the transcript to claim that Trump just wanted dirt. But when v...iewed all together – the DNC servers, Trump’s secrecy, Pelosi’s flip on impeachment – it looks like Trump was not only finishing the Mueller Report, but going after the deep state! Rep. Chris Stewart calls in – fresh out of Thursday’s hearings – to give his take on all the chaos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey, podcasters, it's Thursday and a great podcast for you to listen to today to really gain perspective.
Right before we went on the air and started recording the podcast, we got the raw data from the whistleblower.
And so we just went through it.
And that's what this podcast is about, just going line by line.
And we stumbled into some things that I don't think you're going to hear anywhere else.
This is not about Joe Biden.
And this really isn't about Donald Trump.
It's what Donald Trump is trying to expose.
You'll understand why Nancy Pelosi was so adamant that we have to impeach him.
This is a battle of Titans, and you'll understand it in a totally new perspective just by listening to today's podcast.
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To the Honorable Richard Burr, Chairman, Select Committee on Intelligence, United States Senate,
and the Honorable Adam Schiff, Chairman, Permanent.
Select Committee on Intelligence, House of Representatives.
Dear Chairman Burr and Chairman Schiff, I am reporting, this is the whistleblower now.
This is August 12th, 2019.
I am reporting an urgent concern in accordance with the procedures outlined in 50 U.S.C., blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
This letter is unclassified when separated from the attachment.
In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple U.S. government officials
that the President of the United States is using his power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. elections.
Wow, that's quite a charge.
The interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the president's main domestic political rivals.
The president's personal lawyer, Rudolph Giuliani, is central figure in this effort.
Attorney General Barr appears to be involved as well.
Okay, so I want to set this out from the outset.
In the course of my official duties,
I have received information from multiple U.S. government officials.
So in other words, what he's about to present,
he has no firsthand knowledge of.
But even if he did, what he's saying,
I don't know if there's a problem.
He said over the past four months, more than half a dozen U.S. officials have informed me of various facts related to this effort.
The information provided herein was relayed to me in the course of official interagency business.
It is routine for U.S. officials with responsibility for a particular regional or functional portfolio to share such information with one another in order to inform policymaking and analysis.
So, in other words, I want you to know we're not doing anything weird.
here. I was not a direct witness to most of the events described. Let me read that again. I was not a
direct witness to most of the events described. However, I found my colleague's accounts of these events
to be credible because in almost all cases, multiple officials recounted a fact pattern that was
consistent with one another. In addition, a variety of information consistent with these private
accounts has been reported publicly. Now let me tell you something. First of all, we'll let you
decide whether there's anything in this. But I just, I want you to know, I really truly believe we
would have read this document differently, had the press and the intelligence community not spent
the last three and a half to four years trying to take this president down on everything.
This used to mean something when you'd have a so-called whistleblower.
But does anybody trust the press, the intelligence community, the DOJ, any of it?
They have so discredited themselves that you don't know what's real and what's not.
He says, I am deeply concerned that the actions described below constitute a serious.
or flagrant problem, abuse, or violation of law or executive order that does not include
differences of opinions concerning public policy matters. It is consistent with the definition
of an urgent concern in USC 50, blah, blah, blah. I am therefore fulfilling my duty to report this
information through proper legal channels to the relevant authorities. I am also concerned that these
action pose risk to the U.S. national security and undermine the U.S. government's efforts to
deter and counter foreign interference in U.S. elections. To the best of my knowledge, my knowledge,
the entirety of this statement is unclassified when separated from the classified enclosure.
Stu, do we have the classified enclosure?
There is a classified appendix, which is attached to it.
Okay, it's only a little bit of black boxes, right?
Yeah, there's, yes.
I have endeavored to apply the classification standards outlined in executive order 13,526,
and to separate out information that I know or have reason to believe is classified for national security purposes.
If a classification marking is applied retroactively, I believe it is incumbent upon the classifying authority to explain why such a marking was applied and to which specific information it pertains.
So here's his case.
One, the 25th July presidential phone call.
Now remember, we went over this yesterday.
And because you may have missed yesterday's show
and maybe really only heard the reporting with ellipses,
the media in newspaper, online, on television, on all fronts,
used an ellipse three you know dot dot dot use the ellipse to to skip over five hundred about
five hundred and forty words now i've never seen that done before but they removed almost an
entire page between i have a favor to ask and could you look into joe biden what what those elipses
took out was the president looking to say to the president of the Ukraine, I need you to understand,
we think you're surrounded by some of the bad guys that hacked into the DNC servers.
That server is still lost. We need to know where that server is. We think one of the oligarchs
maybe in your circle has it or knows where it is. We need to know that because we've been doing
this investigation with Robert Mueller, and he's got nothing. He's been looking into me. He should be
looking into Russia, and that those Russian oligarchs have infiltrated your oligarchs, and we think
they're working together. Now, that is national security. That's doing what the Congress and
everybody else should have been doing, but they didn't. So here's how they do. So here's how they
described the phone call in this whistleblowers report.
Early in the morning of July 25, the president spoke by telephone with the Ukrainian
president Zelensky.
I do not know which side initiated the call, but this was the first publicly acknowledged
call between the two leaders since a brief congratulatory call after Mr. Zelensky won the
presidency on April 21st.
Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me that after the
initial exchange of pleasantries, the president used the remainder of the call to advance his
personal interests.
Stu, fact check.
That's that the personal interest.
After they had exchange of pleasantries, the president used the remainder of the call to
advance his personal interests.
I mean, it certainly wasn't the remainder of the call.
There was other things discussed as well.
And you could certainly, if you want to take the worst reading of Trump's.
words that they were only about his own personal interest,
then you could say that to some degree.
However, his personal interest seemingly align with a national interest
in that if we had a vice president of the United States
participating in corruption related to favoring his child
and also a bunch of money over a billion dollars disappearing,
that would be of the national interest of the United States.
Sure would be.
But beyond that, you know it wasn't in his personal interest
because he said, I need you to look into, apparently they call it crowd strike.
He didn't even understand what he was talking about.
It did seem like he was reading notes about what he was supposed to say.
He was briefed on, here's what you need to tell them, to further the Russian investigation.
That's a pretty big thing just to overlook, because that was the main thrust of the call.
And if you watched again, mainstream news last night, the way you understood everything we're talking about right now is dot, dot, dot.
And they didn't cover this.
They just said, I want you to do me a favor.
Can you look into Joe Biden and his son?
That's not what happened.
Doing this so we should play at some point today.
Yeah.
Okay.
Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge informed me, namely he sought to pressure Ukrainian leader to take actions to help the president 2020 re-election bid.
That is untrue.
He mainly, listen to this, he mainly sought to pressure the Ukrainian leader to take actions to help the president's 2020 re-election bid.
He did not pressure him, first of all.
He did not ask him to take steps to help him in his reelection bid.
Right.
I mean, obviously, again, the worst reading of it, you could say that, right?
Yes, you could.
He did use the word reciprocal.
He did ask for things.
And you could say if you're the president of Ukraine, the president of the United States is mentioning stuff, it goes to the top of your heap of things to do.
Of course it does.
So you can argue these things, but again, a lot of assumption here.
But that was not.
Yeah.
And that was not the first thing on the list.
Right.
The first thing on the list was help us investigate and stop Russia from taking your military apart and interfering in our.
elections. We need this information. Can you find this? Totally legitimate. Totally legitimate.
Stu, have you seen anything big that we have already read that we need?
Yes, there's one very big thing in here as part of the accusation that directly relates to this
program and specifically today's radio program. Because when they're talking about the circumstances
is leading up to the 25th of July
presidential phone call. This is section
four. They discuss
a series
of articles,
which they find suspicious,
appearing in an online publication
called The Hill.
The author of those stories
is our guest in the third hour
of the program. John Solomon.
John Solomon is a
is not a conspiracy theorist.
John Solomon is a
well-known award-winning investigative journalist.
He worked for the Times.
He worked for the Washington Post.
He now runs...
Associated Press.
Associated Press.
He now runs the editorial section for the Hill.
But he's done the investigative reporting on this,
and he has been on this for years.
Years.
This is not a Trump thing.
Now, what they're accusing,
what they're basically saying in this complaint
is to say Trump asks for this favor,
hey look into Biden.
There's a bunch of backroom dealings between them,
the threat of withholding funds may or may not have occurred,
blah, blah, blah.
And one of the ways Ukraine is helping Donald Trump
and trying to win his favor
is by people in the Ukrainian government
leaking information to essentially John Solomon at the Hill.
This is ridiculous.
This is a ridiculous, ridiculous charge.
John Solomon has been working on this story literally for years.
We have worked with him on this story.
We know him.
We know how it works.
We know who is also helping him with it.
We don't know all of his sources.
But we also know how hard it has been.
to get anybody in Ukraine to actually help him and speak,
especially when Obama was in office.
Okay, so let's go through.
The president asked, pressured Mr. Zelensky, two,
initiate or continue an investigation into the activities of the former
vice president Joseph Biden and his son Hunter Biden.
Now, you'll notice that these are flipped because that's not the first thing he did.
in the phone call he did what is bullet point number two,
asked them to assist purportedly uncovering the allegations of Russian interference
in the 2016 presidential election that originated in Ukraine,
with specific requests that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers
used by the Democratic National Committee and examined by U.S. cybersecurity from CrowdStrike,
which initially reported that Russian hackers had penetrated,
the DNC's network in 2016.
So let me ask, we have our,
we have our foreign affairs and military expert here for military intelligence,
Jason Betrell.
And Jason, let me see if I have this right.
Is he asking to find out, find where these things are and who is involved
in helping Russia hack the DNC servers,
or is he saying here,
hey, I want those DNC servers.
I want to see what's on those DNC servers.
Can you help me find those?
It sounds like, so I think this ties directly into what Stu was just talking about with that.
That's the section actually I'm like scrutinizing the most right now in this report
is where he's referencing that Solomon article in the Hill.
all of these like cases, all of these instances that are bulleted out, they're all kind of connected.
So they're all kind of centering around corruption, but they're all, they involve multiple different officials, not just Joe Biden, his son.
So the crowd strike stuff is involved, and I think he was just looking.
It sounded to me.
What is crowd strike?
So if anybody doesn't know, this is a U.S. firm called Crowdstrike.
Explain what they did.
They assisted in identifying who was involved with hacking the DNC.
So before they even knew, you know, how the heck this stuff got put on, you know,
DCLeaks.com or whatever, they went in to look and actually do the forensics,
the computer forensics to find out who was involved.
And they were the ones that were very pivotal in helping to identify that it was Russian intelligence.
So CrowdStrike looked into that.
They were like, okay, the Russians are involved.
We, uh, uh, U.S. intelligence visuals came to the same conclusion.
Um, and then they also continued.
their work and CrowdStrike found out, and this was not in his report, but they also found out
that the Russians were involved in hacking the actual Ukrainian military.
Correct.
So there was a lot involved.
So, Stu, would you go back and find in yesterday's actual transcript what the president was
asking for?
Because I think this is different than what he's saying here in this memo.
And let's start with the transcript from yesterday where he talks about CrowdStrike and what he
was asking for.
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Oh, no, wait a minute.
Yes, I am.
It's the Glenn Beck program.
And we're going over the Select Committee on Intelligence Report.
from the whistleblower.
And we found some interesting things.
Stu, can you just kind of cover
what we've already covered
in a condensed form?
Yes, I think I can.
Okay.
Going through the timeline is a little difficult.
We talked a little bit about this last time, last hour.
The accusation from the whistleblower
essentially revolves around a few things.
This call that we all talked about yesterday
where Trump, you know, talks to him about
Biden talks to the president of Ukraine about crowd strike and these big issues related to the election.
That is part of the accusation.
Again, this person says that they were not a direct witness to basically any of these events.
Okay, so it's important to know.
It's all secondhand information from this person.
So to us, it's third and fourth hand.
So she or he goes through this.
Do you think it's a she?
Why I said she or he?
Should I say they them?
No, you've been saying she all morning.
He, they them?
No, you've been saying she all morning.
I don't want to assign a gender to this particular individual.
I just don't know if you knew something that I didn't know because you keep saying she and then you get yourself.
Don't bait me.
All right.
So basically this person is accusing there being a problem there.
They go on to say one of the big issues that is an indicator here is that.
they slid these transcripts over to a much highly much more highly secured computer system,
one that would not normally hold such transcripts.
So the transcript that we got yesterday, the phone call, they say there's nothing,
there was nothing secret about this.
Why is it top, top secret?
Again, yeah, and this is their case.
Yeah.
Why did they move, why did the White House move this transcript and actually the actual
digital recording over to a super secure top secret, which is not usually done for something
that would just contain this kind of language.
Right.
And so the accusation is they knew there was a problem in this call, and therefore they did
this to hide it from people.
And we can get into the alternate explanation to that here in a second, which I think when
you lay out the whole case fits pretty well as to why they would do this.
But this is the accusation.
We're just going through the accusations here.
Now, we are going on the assumption of a couple of things.
One, we're not going to assign motive.
However, we will look at past actions and take that into account.
And no one is guilty.
You have to prove them guilty.
We will assume that both the DNC and Donald Trump are innocent.
But we're trying to figure out a couple of things.
One, this is not a smoking gun.
If you make this about Joe Biden and you make this about this phone call, this is not a smoking gun.
So why, after all this time of never going for impeachment, why did people suddenly flip without any information?
And they immediately went impeachment.
He's got to be removed.
They've made this the battle, right?
and it wouldn't work out to their advantage.
So what is it?
Are they just really crusaders?
Or is there something else going on?
Well, we've kind of stumbled into something in this reading of this memo.
This is not about Joe Biden.
This memo has very little to do with Joe Biden and his son.
I believe that's the cake and the circus for the masses.
that's what's that's what has been given to the media because the media can understand
hmm Trump bad Joe Biden good okay and so they're giving that to the masses but that's not
the show that's really happening that is misdirection because as you look in this it has very
little to do with Joe Biden the case that Trump seems to be making in this and the reason
why I think he has attorney bar
on all of this.
Yeah, okay, well, you got to talk to our attorney general.
You can only say
that if Donald Trump
needs to be impeached, then
our attorney general is in on
it from the start.
And that may be. I don't
think so, but that may be.
Or is it
that Donald Trump has a theory
that is
pretty sound.
And
he
He's investigating it because he didn't trust anyone, but he trusts Attorney Barr.
So you have Attorney General Barr going and shadowing with Rudy Giuliani.
And what is it that they're looking for?
We're going to lay this all out for you here in just a few minutes, and I'll answer all those questions,
but I want to get back into this memo so you have all of it.
We left it at.
The transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is other than.
used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature.
One White House official described this act as an abuse of this electronic system because the
call did not contain anything remotely sensitive from a national security perspective.
Or did it?
I do not know whether similar messages or measures were taken to restrict access to other
records of the call such as contemporaneous handwritten notes by those who were listening
in. Three, ongoing concerns. This is the whistleblower. On 26 July, day after the call,
U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine negotiations, Kurt Volker, visited Kiev. By the way,
we should explain to Kiev. Kiev is what we've always grown up saying, but that is because
that was the Soviet name, and the people in Ukraine actually find that offensive. The name is not
pronounced Kiev. That was the Soviet translation and the Soviet renaming and kind of a just a dig and a
little salt in the wound for Ukraine. The same way that they say the Ukraine. Yeah, I know.
We're all used to that. It's supposed to be just Ukraine. It is a sovereign nation. So you'll notice
U.S. diplomats. You notice Biden in the video saying Kiv because it's seen as a measure of
respect for Ukraine as a sovereign nation. And I keep saying, I got Kiv. I keep saying the Ukraine and it's
not. They're both habits. Yeah. All right. 26th July, day after the call, U.S.
Bestor Representative, Ukraine negotiations Kurt Volker, visit Keev, and met with President
Zelensky and a variety of Ukrainian political figures. Ambassador Volker was accompanied
in his meetings by U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sonderland.
Based on multiple readouts of these meetings recounted to me by various U.S. officials,
ambassadors Volker and Sondland reportedly provided advice to the Ukrainian leadership on how to navigate the demands that the president had made of Mr. Zelensky.
I also learned from multiple U.S. officials that on or about 2nd of August, Mr. Giuliani reported he traveled to Madrid to meet with one of President Zelensky's advisors.
The U.S. officials characterized this meeting, which was not recorded publicly at the time, as a direct follow-up.
to the president's call with Mr. Zelensky about the cases they had discussed.
Separately, multiple U.S. officials told me that Mr. Giuliani had reported privately
reaching out to a variety of other Zelensky advisors, including chief of staff and acting
chairman of the security service of Ukraine. I don't know whether those officials met or spoke
with Mr. Giuliani, but I was told separately by multiple U.S. officials that Mr. Yermak and Mr.
Bacanov intended to travel to Washington in mid-August. On August 9th, the president, the president
told reporters. I think President Zelensky is going to make a deal with President Putin and
he'll be invited to the White House. And we look forward to seeing him. He's already been invited
to the White House and he wants to come. And I think he will. He's a very reasonable guy. He wants
to see peace in Ukraine. And I think he'll see it coming very soon, actually, end quote.
So what is all of this about? If you remember in the phone call, Mr. Zelensky asked for Rudy
Giuliani to come. Can you brief me on these things? Can you help us? And Zelensky was already aware of all of the
corruption that Mr. Trump was talking about. Now, the circumstances leading up to the July 25th presidential
phone call, according to the whistleblower, we're reading the transcript as it was given to the House
and the Senate earlier this morning. Beginning in late 2019,
a series of articles appeared on an online publication called The Hill.
These articles, several Ukrainian officials, most notably,
Prosecutor General Uri Lusenko, made a series of allegations
against other Ukrainian officials and current and former U.S. officials.
Mr. Lusenko and his colleagues alleged,
according to John Solomon at the Hill, who, by the way, is coming up in about 40 minutes,
to the very best of my knowledge,
Wait, wait, wait. I'm on the wrong page. That was four, so I've got to go to five now.
Hang on, let me pay. All right. Now, Mr. Lusanko from Ukrainian, the Ukrainian government,
alleged that the Ukraine's possessed evidence that Ukrainian officials, namely head of national
anti-corruption Bureau of Ukraine and member of parliamentary, uh,
Sir He Lashenko had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election,
allegedly in collaboration with the DNC and the U.S. Embassy in Kiev.
That's quite a charge.
The U.S. embassy in Kiev, specifically U.S. ambassador, Marie Yovanovitch,
who had criticized Mr. Lazzinko's organization for its poor record in fighting corruption,
had allegedly obstructed Ukrainian law enforcement agencies
pursuit of corruption cases,
including by providing a do not prosecute list
and had Ukrainian prosecutors banned from traveling to the United States
expressly to prevent them from delivering their evidence
about the 2016 U.S. elections.
Also, that former Vice President Biden
had pressured former Ukrainian President Petro Praschenko
in 2016 to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor,
General Victor Shorkin in order to quash a purported criminal probe into Burisma Holdings,
a Ukrainian energy company on whose board, the former vice president's son, Hunter, sat.
Now, what's interesting about this is this is what Trump is operating on.
This is the part that the media will never tell you about.
They'll say he was just after Joe Biden.
was asking for a favor, he pressured. No, no. The countercharge, the other side of this is
that the DNC working with the former government that thought they would be in power forever,
the Democrats had absolutely, nobody had any idea that that government was going to be overturned
by a comedy talk show host. Okay, remember, this is the guy who's like the John Stewart of
Ukraine. He's the guy the president was talking to. And the reason why he won, he never did any
debates. He never did anything. He never stated policy. He just said, this is all insane. And we're
corrupt and it's got to stop. Nobody would have thought he won. So the Democrats, if this is true,
the Democrats thought they have all of the hatches closed. There's no water going to be but leaking out of
this. We're all fine. The allegation is from Luchenko was that the government at the highest
levels, in collusion with our U.S. ambassador, appointed by, appointed by Obama, right?
Was they were all working together. The DNC had come over and said, hey, we need some dirt on Donald
Trump and the
Ukrainian government working through
oligarchs went to Russia and helped
gather information.
Then when the 2016
Russian investigation was happening,
they were firing and
bribing everybody to shut up and
the ambassador was stopping people to come to the
United States to say, hey, this is what's really
going on.
that's what Trump is asking for.
And Trump is asking for the Russian hacked servers because what's on their servers?
What's on their servers?
Did any of them, were they saying, hey, can you find out some information on Donald Trump?
Now, he's not doing this just with Rudy Giuliani.
He's doing this with the Attorney General.
The Attorney General denies, we should point out.
The Attorney General says that there was...
Barr?
Barr says he was not involved in this, at least,
to the extent of in any...
Like, what happened in the call, right?
So, oh, yeah, yeah.
He's saying that, because in the call,
Trump says, I want you to talk to Barr,
I want you to talk to Giuliani.
Barr says he did not have those conversations.
And Giuliani has publicly admitted he has had them.
Right. But just to be clear to give Barr...
He may not. He may not have had those conversations.
Right.
But...
It may not have risen to his level.
Who knows? We don't know where...
I'd be interested to see if Barr knew about any of this.
But what you just laid out explains perfectly, in my mind,
about the thing that Stu you brought up with the computer system,
with the conversation in the White House being transferred over into that classified, you know,
server record keeping that.
Right. This is one of the things that they say is a piece of evidence that shows they were trying to hide it.
And I think it can be just as easily interpreted the other way.
Yeah, well, I mean, if you think about, I mean, as is, if you look at that conversation,
just the mere fact that he mentioned Biden and that scandal does not constitute, who cares?
Like, even if that got out, it might look bad, but it's not going to, sure, it's not going
to warrant them put into classification on this and throwing it over there.
But if everything you're looking into, if all of the, if what you, Glenn just laid out
is accurate, then you don't want the Obama holdovers in the White House.
wind of that. You don't want intelligence
knowing about that.
Especially thinking about it from Trump's perspective. He's very
suspicious of intelligence. He's had bad
experiences with them. But what he's alleging
here is, and we have evidence
to back up that
things like this have
happened, that
what he's alleging is that
Obama and the
DNC worked
with the intelligence
agency and
the government of
Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Donald Trump to stop his campaign.
Well, if I'm having conversations about, you know, making sure I do not want the intelligence
community.
I do not want the DNC, the Obama holdovers.
I don't want anyone knowing about it, but I do want a trail of it someplace.
Don't delete it.
This reminded me of it.
Hang on.
Back in just a second.
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He's on with us now, Congressman from Utah, Chris Stewart.
How are you, sir?
Glenn, it's good to be with you.
You're the only guy I'd walk out of the hearing for it.
I think you're foolish for doing it.
You have a front row seat, literally a front row seat.
Tell me what you think this is really, what's really going on here?
Well, it's nothing that we haven't seen for three years, and that's just not shocking.
It shouldn't surprise anyone.
This is a concerted effort by Democrats to repeal and rescind the 2016 election.
It's what they've been doing since the very day Donald Trump was elected.
And, Glenn, it's not going to be successful.
There's just nothing here that is impeachable.
And if I could make this point, I think it's a fair point.
I'm not here to protect the president.
I'm not here to protect anyone.
We just want to know the facts, but the facts just don't.
bear this out, unlike in previous impeachments. I mean, with Richard Nixon, the American people
understood that that was wrong. There was a break-in. There was a cover-up. There was, there was
obstruction of justice. With Bill Clinton, the American people knew that it was wrong for him to be with
an intern, and it was wrong for him to lie to a grand jury. And what in the world are you going to
commit, how in the world do you convince American people that there's an impeachable offense here?
Because he asked a foreign leader to investigate what he thought was corruption, and I think most
Americans look at that and listen to that and go, why in the world should we remove him from office for
that? Yeah. And, you know, Chris, as I read this, because I read this this morning and you had
access to it yesterday, as I was reading this morning, I don't think this is about Joe Biden.
This is really all about the Russia investigation. What was going on, you know, when Obama was
in office? Were the Democrats using the Ukrainian?
to look for dirt on Donald Trump.
And, you know, that that crowd strike server thing is disturbing if you look at it from a different point of view.
Then you all of a sudden go, wait a minute, that would explain why he would take this transcript
and put it into an encrypted form that no one can get to unless subpoenaed by the Congress.
No one can get into this because he's showing, I think,
think he's trying to make the case of a deep state.
Am I wrong?
I think there's, no, I think there's much more that we got to learn there.
And you know what?
With the crowd strike, there's used so much to this that many people are overwhelmed by it,
but the essence of that is just exactly as you've described it.
And by the way, this thing, too, about whether this document was stored in a high-classified
server.
We have no idea whether that's standard for conversations between the head of state, and it
certainly isn't criminal, and it may not be outside of the norm at all. So, I mean, some people are
trying to make a big deal of that as if that's part of the cover of, but A, again, we have no idea
if that's not standard, and B, it doesn't mean anything anyway. So Ben Sass, I mean, Nancy Pelosi
and Chuck Schumer said exactly what I would expect them to say, and that is, oh, this is very
disturbing. I read this and is very, and so I read this today with an open mind thinking, okay, I'm
going to find something disturbing.
I haven't found it, except I think I found a reason where all of it makes sense on what
Trump is doing and what they're accusing him and why they flip so hard and made this
their key to destroy him finally.
But what did Ben Sass?
Do you have any idea?
Did you see anything in here?
Because Ben Sass said, look, there's some things in here that I think we need answers to
questions on.
and, you know, you shouldn't circle the wagons.
And I agree with all of that.
I'm not here to protect the president.
I want the truth.
But is there anything in here that stuck out to you?
Well, I mean, I went to this with a little bit of anxiety.
You never know what to expect.
And in heaven's sake, you never know what to expect, right?
Right.
And I was fearful that there might be something to this, some surprise to this.
And I read it carefully.
I read it two or three times. I took notes. And at the end of this, which was late yesterday
afternoon, I'd be honest with you, Glenn, I was much more confident that this president was not
going to be impeached than I was before I read the document. Once again, I said, is this it? I mean,
is that really all there is to this? And I think, again, look, it doesn't matter if you get to
217 votes in the House. You have to convince the American people. And the American people have to have
had a consensus among them that this president has committed high crimes and misdemeanors,
and he should be removed from office.
And I don't think there's a chance in the world that this document convinces the American people
of that.
And you talk about Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer being disturbed, but Glenn, they've been
disturbed for three years.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
This is the part that doesn't fit, Chris, that Nancy Pelosi has been against this.
This makes no sense.
She's been against this the whole time.
Why all of a sudden with nothing does she say, this is it?
Got to strike while the iron is hot.
The iron isn't hot.
The American people, even Democrats, are not for impeachment.
Yeah, you know what, Glenn, I think there's actually fairly simple explanation for that,
and that's two elements to it.
Number one is, and this is just obvious, and you know this,
and that is that she just finally reached a point with her own party,
her own caucus, that she couldn't do nothing.
And I think the Genesis was out with those seven moderates who represent, you know, moderate districts and in the past had been kind of a buffer for her.
When they wrote that editorial over the weekend, I think she felt like she had to respond to this.
But at the same time, the second element to this is this, she's not serious about this effort.
If she was serious about an impeachment inquiry, that requires a vote on the House floor.
She has to put her members on record of saying, yes, we are seeking impeachment.
And she hasn't done that.
She's trying to split the baby.
She's saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going to start an impeachment inquiry, and we're going to do it by doing the same thing we've been doing for the last, you know, nine months.
And that's the committee's doing the same, same thing.
He's not serious about the same query, or she would have the vote and compel her members to say, yes, I want to proceed.
And she hasn't done that.
All right.
The guy who you just questioned, he is the director of national intelligence.
he's the guy who stopped the memo from coming out and be given to Congress.
They're saying that this is unprecedented.
No whistleblower has ever been kept in the history of our country from Congress.
Is that true?
What do you make of this and his testimony?
Yeah, it's true, but there's a reason for that.
And that is we've never had a whistleblower complaint that was an accusation against the president of the United States.
And so then you have elements of executive privilege.
And the second thing that he had to consider, the law compelled him to consider, is was this outside of the jurisdiction of the director of intelligence, which it was.
And look, Mr. McGuire, as I was adamant in my defense of him, this is a man of clear integrity.
He found a deficiency in ambiguity in the law and did not know what to do.
He wasn't trying to obstruct.
He wasn't trying to protect the White House.
He simply didn't know what legally he could do in this situation.
And I think he did the only thing that he could do.
You go to the Office of Legal Counsel and you seek their advice.
That's what they're there for.
But to create this narrative of my Democratic colleagues,
and they attacked his integrity so often and so repeatedly as if he's the problem.
And then I said to them,
if you think you're going to win on this by trying to convince the American people
that this is a political stooge sitting before us,
good luck on that.
Because if anyone watches this hearing for even a few minutes,
it's very clear.
This is a military officer who has served his name.
for 36 years.
He's not here for political ambitions.
He's here to serve his country,
and that's what he was trying to do.
So it's a, it was a threat to the national security,
according to this whistleblower.
It's a threat to the presidency itself and the country.
Who does it?
What should he have done?
You say, well, it wasn't in his jurisdiction.
So can't he pass that to somebody's jurisdiction,
Or, you know, I, he said, he was asked, well, did people investigate this?
And they did.
What did they find?
Or why did it not go to someone else?
Well, and it gets a little bit complicated, Glenn.
And I don't want to, I don't want to bore you with some of the technical legalities.
But, I mean, what it comes down to is this.
At what point, and it's not whether he had to, I mean, the objection of my Democratic colleagues is that he didn't do it immediately.
But he had a 14-day window where he could.
could seek legal counsel and make a decision.
And it's apparent that, again, he and the inspector general were in the disagreement and
a bit of a loggerheads.
And I think that we have to realize that, as I said, the law is deficient on this.
And we need to address the law.
But, I mean, this information, as a member of Congress, and I've made this clear repeatedly
over the years, my job and the thing that I protect is allowing Congress to provide its
oversight, allowing Congress to have access to this information, and I've always said this should
come to Congress. But I recognize in this case, there was a complicated legal process before it
could come to Congress, and that's what he was trying to comply with. And it seems to me that it only
added fuel to the fire, you know, because they, you know, everybody knows they try to play off
the Nixon thing. It's the cover-up that got you in trouble. Yeah. And, you know, if it's a legal process
and this guy is honorable.
I mean, what are you going to do about it?
It just goes in to just make more smoke.
Chris, I appreciate it.
Good to talk to you.
Thank you, sir.
You bet.
Representative Chris Stewart, a Republican from Utah.
I mean, legitimately right out of the hearing.
Like, you'll see him go, but he's going to walk back in to the hearing room in a second.
We'll see him on C-SPAN walking back in.
He just finished questioning.
You're not going to get better, quicker insight from,
a real player in the story than that. And we should mention too, John Solomon, who was supposed to be on here.
If you were looking for that interview, he had to reschedule till tomorrow, had apparently he said a meeting with a source.
That had just come up. They've just come up. So he's rescheduled till tomorrow. He was the guy who is not by name, but his work is mentioned in the whistleblower report.
Extensively. Extensively. And so he's going to come on and tell us what that is like to go through on tomorrow.
program at this time. And in one minute, I want to come back and I'm going to give you the timeline.
Stu will take you through the timeline of this whistleblower report because it's all out of order,
so it's kind of hard to figure out. But he's taking the time and put it all in order so you can
understand it. And we'll get to that. Also, on today's television program, we're going to take
your phone calls. And I'm going to be taking phone calls right after this broadcast in about 40 minutes.
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All right, let me tell you about gold line.
There is something happening, as I'm going to outline to you tomorrow.
Whatever changed last week, we clearly still have a very big problem.
They are still, the Fed is still bailing out the banks to the tune of 100 billion
I'm sorry, 160 billion dollars a day.
Why?
What happened?
No one is answering this question.
And it's gone from 50 billion to now they announced yesterday,
$160 billion every day.
At least they can tell us, though, which banks were borrowing.
No, they can't.
No, the Fed doesn't even know who they're borrowing, who's borrowing the money.
That's insanity.
most fascinating parts. It's legitimately an anonymous borrowing system.
It is. That is something I need to get involved in.
Yeah, you ain't kidding. I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't borrow that 10 bill.
All right. There's, and tomorrow I'll get into this because we have to. There's something wrong,
and it's going to affect the entire world. I think this, if this whistleblower complaint is what I think it is,
buckle up.
2020 is going to be an
ugly, ugly year
for everything.
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