The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Rep. James Comer | 8/12/25

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.)  joins to discuss how Democrats and Republicans have voted together to subpoena Bill and Hillary Clinton to testify on Jeffrey Epstein. A Democrat whistleblower has revealed... that Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) personally authorized the leaking of classified information to smear Donald Trump in what was described as an unethical, illegal, and treasonous act. Glenn and Stu discuss the rise of AI bots being used for interviews, and while it’s easy to spot now, soon that line will be blurred. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We have a lot on today's podcast. Some of the highlights on this particular highlight podcast. James Comer, he is the representative of congressman out of Kentucky. He is part of the group that is now subpoena, has the subpoena power and has subpoenaed Hillary Clinton and also Bill Clinton come talk about Jeffrey Epstein. It's a very fascinating experiment that we're seeing. Also, a report from Just the News, talking about shifts potentially. illegal, immoral, and what the whistleblower said was treasonous to reveal this classified information on the House floor dating back to 2017. It's a really big deal. Also, we talk a little bit about
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Starting point is 00:02:38 And thanks for standing with us. Now let's get to work. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. He is from Kentucky. He is currently the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability. And the House Oversight Committee has supported. now both Hillary and Bill Clinton for testimony on Jeffrey Epstein. And me thinks this might have been a setup the whole time.
Starting point is 00:03:24 But I'm probably wrong on that because it's brilliant. You got everybody on the right or on the left saying, we got a, we're going to subpoena. Okay, well, let's start with Bill and Hillary Clinton. And they've issued the subpoenas. And let's see where this goes now. James Comer is with us now. Hello, James.
Starting point is 00:03:40 How are you, sir? well thanks for having me on yeah so do i have this pretty much uh anything confirm or deny on this theory of mine that this is wow going to work out unfortunately uh or an unfortunate way with the democrats well you know the democrats were you know they have trump derangement syndrome and everything's about donald trump and they they had been signaling for for days in an oversight committee hearing that they were going to make a motion to subpoena the Epstein files. Scott Perry from Pennsylvania, a good member on the oversight to me, good Republican, when they made that a motion, he amended it to include subpoenas for
Starting point is 00:04:24 six former Attorney General, Republican and Democrat, as well as Bill and Hillary Clinton. And they voted for it. And the significance of them voting for that amendment, and it passed, of course, in a bipartisan manner, is if you normally send a former president, subpoena. The odds of that subpoena ever coming to fruition would be would be slim. But in this case, they voted in a bipartisan manner, Republicans and Democrats, to subpoena both Bill and Hillary Clinton. That carries weight in court. And everyone in America wants to know what was going on on at Epstein Island. It's not just a Democrat issue or a public issue. Democrats want to know because they hope and pray Donald Trump had something, you know, some liability there.
Starting point is 00:05:14 But Republicans want to know too because we believe there was a cover-up. We believe the government knew more than what's been out there. We believe there's probably some kind of list somewhere. So I think that what happened in the Oversight Committee is going to lead us to being able to ask Bill and Hillary Clinton questions for the first time ever. Okay, so let me ask you just to play devil's advocate. and to be fair, are there plans to subpoena any Republicans or friends and associates of Republicans or friends of Donald Trump? Well, I don't get Bill Barr's his friend, but he was one of the attorneys general.
Starting point is 00:05:50 There are two Republican AGs that were on the list, and we'll go wherever the investigation leads. Look, this is not a partisan issue. They're Republicans are equally as curious and interested in what. what was going on in Epstein Island. I've been in Kentucky for two weeks now. My son plays baseball. I go to baseball fields all over the state watching him. And people come up to me. These aren't political people and they know that I issued the subpoenas. I subpoenaed Pam Bondi for the Epstein files. And I don't think that's gotten a lot of press and probably didn't make many friends with the administration. But people want to know. And that's what people are coming.
Starting point is 00:06:36 up to all of my colleagues, not just the Freedom Caucus guys and the ones that are on TV all time, just the normal, moderate Republicans. This is what people want to know. I mean, they're curious about Epstein and we're serious about it as well. Well, I'm glad to hear that because I've never seen anything like it. This story is not going away. I mean, it just, it has to be, you have to lance this boil and just let the, sorry, but drain it and let every, let it be what it is. based on what you've seen so far, do you believe the Clintons had knowledge of the criminal activities on the island?
Starting point is 00:07:12 Well, I believe that the Clintons were very close with Epstein, and we know that Clinton went there a few times. I don't know if he went as many times as some conservative outlets have reported, but he may have gone more. I don't know, but we're going to find out. And, you know, this is this is a serious thing. You have two people that were charged, both Epstein and Maxwell. Was the government involved?
Starting point is 00:07:43 You know, was the government spying on people that were there? Was the government turning a blind eye to the sex trafficking of underage girls? I mean, there are so many questions that every American has. And I think the fact that Clinton was there so many times, Maxwell was at, Bill and Hillary at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. So obviously the Clinton sought a lot of Maxwell. So we just we just have questions. I'm not trying to embarrass the president or anything. We'll have to have every I dotted and T. Cross if we get him in. But normally the prospect of getting a former president into a congressional committee deposition is slim to done.
Starting point is 00:08:28 there have been two this last century that were subpoenaed by Congress and not in trump was one of them neither made it to Congress but what makes this different is the Democrats voted for this too and I think they got in trouble with the King Jeffries and probably the Clintons when they when the committee was over because they were so focused on just subpoenaing the Epstein files they they they left their their guard down for the Clintons and that's what the Democrats have always done, they've always played defense for the Clintons and the Bidens and all the corrupt deep state. But, you know, I'm hopeful that this bipartisan vote will help us in court because this subpoena will go to court, make no mistake about it. And hopefully we've got good attorneys.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Our attorneys that represent us in court are through Mike Johnson's office. So hopefully they'll do a good job. Do you have any concerns about the potential interference or special treatment of Jislane Maxwell after she's meeting with Todd Blanche and then she gets this unusual prison transfer. Are you guys going to investigate that? Are you concerned about that? Well, we're always interested in what's going on. We weren't aware that he was going to meet whether or that she was going to be transferred. And remember, August the 11th was the date I was supposed to take the committee down to depose Maxwell, which was Monday. But what happened is, last week her attorney sent a letter to me saying that she wanted to wait until the Supreme Court ruled on her appeal,
Starting point is 00:10:09 which is supposed to be in September. And if we went in there before September, before the Supreme Court ruled on her appeal, she was just going to plead the fifth. So, you know, that's a reasonable request. We're going to hope that the Supreme Court rules on her appeal, and then our committee's going down there and deposing her. I mean, we've got, you know, I've got Marjorie Taylor Green and Anna Polina Luna and Byron Donald. Everybody's interested in this and everybody wants to participate in it.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Let me change the subject on a couple of things. Yesterday, I saw this amazing video of the House being called to order, and called into session. They call in a session. They have prayer. They do the Pledge of Allegiance, and then they dismiss. And this is all being done. So they don't have to, or they, that it won't allow the president to do appointments when Congress is not in session. Because they're saying, no, we're still in session every day, but you're not really in session.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Why are the Republicans doing this? Why not just vote on the people? I don't know that, you know, the confirmations are in the Senate. And I don't know. I read that too, and I wasn't aware of that. I always, but I think. in the past, they've always done that in August when we were out traveling our district. So I really don't know. That's a good question. If Republicans are doing anything to slow down
Starting point is 00:11:39 Trump's confirmation, then shame on the Republicans. And we need new Republicans because we've got to get these guys confirmed. It's already too late. Do you think Home Rule has a chance of being pulled back in 30 days for D.C.? I do. I do. At least. Look, I mean, people are scared in Washington, D.C. It's a bad place. And if you look out the window, it doesn't matter what part of town. You've got all these teenage boys running around breaking stuff at 2 a.m., 3 a.m., and there's nothing being done about it.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And the way the D.C. laws are, they're not going to prosecute young people for anything. These young people know it, so they're no consequences. just to their actions. You've got a lawless town right now. Yeah. Well, I hope that that actually happens and they pull this back because this is a failed experiment. It is. You've hinted at the possible run of being the governor of Kentucky in 27. Care to comment on where you are on that decision? Yeah, it's two years away. We've had, unfortunately, for the last 55 years in Kentucky, as Republican as Kentucky has been. We've had a Democrat governor, 47 of the last 55 years. This governor now, Andy Bashir, he's term limited. He can't run again. I'm getting a lot of encouragement to run.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I was commissioner of agriculture before I came to Congress at the statewide elected office. And it's something that I'm seriously considering. I'm obviously, I believe in term limit. So I never planned on staying in Congress very long. I was the top Republican on the Oversight Committee after three and a half years. So I think I've proven myself and I love Kentucky. So it's something I want to do, but we're still about a year away from making a decision. Okay. Sounds great.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Congressman, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Thanks for all your hard work. Appreciate it. James Comer, which, you know, I should have asked him, has he ever considered changing his name? because it's so close to James Comey. And I mean, are you committed to Comer? Are you?
Starting point is 00:13:58 I mean, that would have been a very, you know. It would have been very good question. Yeah, very pressing question. Yeah, very pressing question because you're like, James Comer, isn't he the bad guy? Oh, no, that's Comey. James Comey. I just want to point that out. I'm sure he struggles with this decision on a day-to-day basis.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Right, right, right. I mean, your wife kind of struggled with that for a while, right? My wife's-Lisa Page is her name. and Lisa Page, Lisa Page, oh, wasn't she the one with, oh gosh, what was his name? I just had it. Gosh, everyone's yelling at the radio's right now. I can't think of the other guy's name. But the two that had.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Peter Strzok. Peter Strzok. Yes, thank you. They, part of the Russia Gate scandal, right? There's so many quote-unals. No, they were big. They were instrumental in that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And as we're seeing, more instrumental than we thought. Yeah. Their names are keep coming up. Yeah. That's Lisa Page. Different spelling, but yes. Yeah. Is it though?
Starting point is 00:14:58 Really? Yes. Just like Comer and Comey are different spelling. There's a different spelling there. Okay. Well, so it's particularly disturbing because she was having an affair. So like there was like story after story. It was like, Lisa Page in affair.
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Starting point is 00:16:55 I think he worked for the New York Times, but definitely the Wall Street Journal until he wasn't welcome there. And he was like, you know what? I'm just going to have, I speak my mind. I let the chips fall where they may. And so he started his own thing. And it's really, really good. But he has been breaking a lot of the stories that are coming about Russiagate. Listen to this story. A career intelligence officer who worked for the Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee
Starting point is 00:17:22 for more than a decade repeatedly warned the FBI beginning in 2017 that then Representative Adam Schiff had approved leaking classified information to smear Donald Trump. The FBI 302 interview reports obtained by just the news state the intelligence staffer, a Democrat by party affiliation, who described himself as a friend to both Schiff and now California Senator and former Republican House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, considered the classified leaking to be unethical, illegal, and treasonous, but was told not to worry about it because Schiff believed he would be spared prosecution under the Constitution's speech and debate clause. So you know what that clause is? That's a really, an amazing
Starting point is 00:18:14 clause. You know what it is? This is the one where they can, you know, where Harry Reid could go on and say, hey, Mitt Romney lied about not paying his taxes. Yeah, he never paid his taxes. He can't say that without Mitt Romney being able to sue him. Right. If it's not, if it's, if it's, if it's not true, you can sue him. Unless you say it on the floor of the House or the Senate. Because then it's, then it's free speech that they have that you don't even have. Yeah. Okay. It's like, they're extra. extra free. Yeah, they're extra free. They can say whatever they want and they can't get sued by it. So he is, he's leaking this information, but he's leaking it on the floor of the house. And that way he can say, I'm covered by the Constitution. Now, he is such a dirt bag. He's a dirt bag. It's unreal. Just a dirt bag. Okay. So this whistleblower, again, a Democrat by by registration, he has. been blowing the whistle on Adam Schiff
Starting point is 00:19:16 and no one would listen to him. DOJ officials, according to just the news, showed little interest in pursuing Schiff when the allegations were brought to them years ago, citing the very same excuse the lawmaker had offered in his, isn't that interesting? So he says
Starting point is 00:19:32 I'm covered by this. And the DOJ says, no, no, no, he's covered by this. In his most recent interview with the Bureau in 2023, the whistleblower, whose name is redacted, told agents from the FBI St. Louis office that he personally attended a meeting at which Schiff authorized leaking classified information.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Quote, when working in this capacity, redacted staffer's name, was called to an all-staff meeting by Schiff. In this meeting, Schiff stated the group would leak classified information, which was derogatory to the president of the United States, Donald J. Trump. Schiff stated the information would be used to indict President Trump. The whistleblower told investigations that he stated this would be illegal. And upon hearing his concerns, unnamed members of the meeting
Starting point is 00:20:23 reassured him they would not be caught leaking classified information. The staffer made similar claims to agents in the FBI's Washington field offices early as 2017, shortly after Trump took office in his first term. Officials also said some of the DOJ officials who declined to prosecute a rash of classified leaks during the Russia Gate Affair remain employed and in positions of power, a matter that they may be of interest to lawmakers in Congress. This thing is so deep and so nasty.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I mean, if we don't get the people like Adam Schiff, this will happen, if they get away with it, you may as a Democrat, you may be fine. Donald Trump, he's a, you cannot. allow them to get away with leaking classified information to destroy another person. They knew these were lies, but they needed it to get out, and it was classified. No one was supposed to know that. So here a congressman, and now a senator, a U.S. senator said, don't worry about it. You're not going to get caught.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Nobody's going to pay for this. if they do that and they set this precedent and they do get away with it, what is the regulating rule of law when they want to do it to somebody else? And maybe it's somebody you like. What is the regulating rule of law when the Republicans go, oh, well, you're going to play that way? Well, we can do that too. This is where critical thinking comes in.
Starting point is 00:22:10 This is where, this is what Americans are. are missing right now. And it's not that we're not capable of it. It's that we're all living in our lizard brains. We're all so freaked out by Nazi. Nazi! It's a Nazi! We're so freaked out by the names that we've all called each other. We no longer can stop and think.
Starting point is 00:22:35 The left is now moving towards no rule of law. I mean, Betto is now saying to the Uber, Uber left, rules don't matter at all. It doesn't matter. We'll do whatever it takes to stop them and win next time. Well, to me, it doesn't sound like they're going to do anything new, except that's their message to people. That's not good. unethical, illegal, and treasonous from somebody who describes
Starting point is 00:23:27 Adam Schiff as a friend and nobody seemed to care. The stakes just keep getting higher and higher and higher on this particular story. And I'm wondering, I mean, one thing that is not trending, let me see if I can find the trends here. Okay, on Google trends,
Starting point is 00:23:51 trends, right now what's trending on Google trends is martial law. Marshall law in Washington, D.C. Well, that's not what's happening in Washington, D.C. That's not martial law. It is the president's right because the district of Columbia is supposed to be a federal district, and it's out of control. What was the stats on a thousand times? What was it? I have that here for you.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Give me one second. I'll pull it up. Some crazy amount, more dangerous than Philadelphia. I don't go walk the streets of Philadelphia at night. I don't send my kids. Hey, go get a gallon of milk down the street.
Starting point is 00:24:32 What are the stats? Do you have it? I do. It's just loading as we speak. Okay. This is from, and it's from the, this is from the Atlantic.
Starting point is 00:24:41 DC's homicide rate in 2024, roughly 26.4 homicides for every 100,000 residents, is lower than both at 2023 and its peak in the 90s. But according to, data compiled by the Council of Criminal Justice is still nearly seven times higher than New York City's rate, which is 3.8 per 100,000. DC's rate is also worse than that of Philadelphia, Atlanta, and even Chicago. In fact, it's closer to that of infamously crime-ridden cities like Memphis and
Starting point is 00:25:10 Detroit than it is to some other important city areas. The problem looks even worse in the most violence plagued parts of the city. As I found in my report, 2023, 57% of the city's homicides took place in wards 7 and 8, the city's poorest, and the largest percentage of black residents. In fact, just 10 blocks of D.C. were home to
Starting point is 00:25:32 14% of all homicides. Can you imagine what that area must be? 14% of an entire cities. Yeah, everybody. Everybody knows somebody that has been killed. Right? In that area, it has to be. Has to be. As in many cities,
Starting point is 00:25:48 violence is also hyper concentrated among tight social networks, according to a 2021 report, National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform, any given city, about 500 people are responsible for 60 to 70% of all gun violence in the city. And this is from an article that's saying, this is from, you know, I mean, it's the Atlantic, it's more of a left-leaning situation, saying, hey, guys, like, sure, we can all say it's down, but are we communicating the real problem here? Because, I mean, look, from a political perspective, Trump, is going to win here? Forget that, for example,
Starting point is 00:26:21 all the sideline stuff that everyone's talking about when you just boil it down to politics, which is what a lot of these people are thinking about, if you are stuck on the side of the debate that says actually DC is Disneyland, you're going to lose. And you're going to lose in a city that has voted for you time and time and time again
Starting point is 00:26:42 because somebody's making the killing stop. I mean, you know, what did they say about Mussolini? Why was Mussolini? I remember, was it your uncle? My, let's be very careful. My wife's uncle. Okay. Okay, a great uncle, I think.
Starting point is 00:27:02 He was born here in America, but the family, they lived in Italy. And when Mussolini took over and the war started, they were afraid the entire family would be wiped out. So he was an American citizen because he was a American citizen because he was. born during a vacation in New York City. So he, they sent him all by himself to America. He didn't have a job or anything. So he just joined the military and he started fighting on our side. And, um, and we're talking and nobody in the family had, nobody knew his war record. No one. No one. And, uh, we're sitting at a, a wedding. And it's just the two of us. And I'm like, so Uncle Leo,
Starting point is 00:27:45 how'd you get here? Tell me your story. And he was like, let me tell you my story. And he starts in telling a story. And I said, so you, do you remember Mussolini at the time? Mussolini was a good man. And I'm like, okay, can you keep the voice down on that one? I mean, he's not my uncle. He is not my uncle. My wife's uncle. My wife's uncle, which I'm questioning now my wife and my relationship there said that anyway and i said i'm going to keep your voice down what do you mean by that and he said at first before he joined with the nazis he said our country was so out of control and he made quote you've heard this before he made the trains run on time he what he was saying was he brought order to a very disordered society it was it was
Starting point is 00:28:44 not functioning. Okay. And what Mussolini did at first was, I'm just going to bring, bring some law and order here. This is why the progressive left had an argument with some at the very beginning saying, this is the new wave of the future. It will make your country better, fascism. This was their argument at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Mussolini and Hitler, do you know why, you know, the swastika, if you flip it around, it's actually an American native and a Indian symbol of peace. Did you know that? Yes, I did. I did. Okay. So if you, but if you flip it around,
Starting point is 00:29:26 then it becomes the Nazi swastika. But that's not all. When you look at a Native American, you will always know that it's Native American or Indian because the bottom of the, I don't know what you call it, the swastika, is flat. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Okay. What Hitler did is he pitched it up 45 degrees. So he moved that symbol that was just like a square and he put it instead on the on a like a corner of the square. So it's now pitched up. Does it make sense? You know what I'm saying? Do you know why he did that? No.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Because this is a system of progress. We are progressives. We are moving and racing towards the future. So any of this crap that this was, you know, conservative, no, no, no, no, it wasn't. No, this, this is all progressive socialist nonsense and dangerous. But back to the story of what Trump is doing, Trump is using the Constitution and he is doing it within the rule of law. He has 30 days. And then Congress has to either revoke home rule or it goes back or they can extend it for another thing.
Starting point is 00:30:43 30 days, but Congress has to do it. So he's not becoming a fascist or a dictator or anything else. This is not martial law. This is all within the law. But if he makes that change in those two districts where everybody knows somebody who has been murdered and most likely kids that have been murdered and that goes down and they feel safe on their streets and their kids are not, they're not saying to the kids, just don't fall in with that gang.
Starting point is 00:31:11 That will change. people will, they may still vote the same way because they don't get it maybe, but they will not be on board with dismissing. I can guarantee you they're not on board with dismissing this as, oh no, Washington, D.C. is a safe city. Everything the media is doing right now, everything the Democrats are doing by trying to excuse this and try to make everybody, the people who are living it know it's a lie first. and they've got to be looking at those people going, wait a minute, wait a minute, I thought you were on our side. I thought you were trying to protect us. You're not. You're streaming the best of the Glenn Beck program, and you can find full episodes wherever you download podcasts. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. So I posted on X, I think, or maybe it was Instagram over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Somebody sent some pictures of me from my childhood, and one of them was me from 1970. 77 the magic show. And they brought it to life with AI. And it was, it's stunning. It's stunning. And I posted it and I said, this is a very old picture of me. You know,
Starting point is 00:32:23 and I told the Johnny Carson thing, et cetera, et cetera. But I just thought people would know, I mean, because you can see the folds and the creases in the picture. I just thought people would know that that was AI. No, no, they didn't.
Starting point is 00:32:35 They didn't. Yeah, it was interesting because your wording, too, on the post said, this picture I sent in to Johnny Carson or something like that, right? So I would have sent the film back. It would have been film back then.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I would have said that. Yeah. I sent this film in. Right. This movie or whatever. Right. And this, you said picture. And when I saw it, I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I mean, like that. But I had seen, I've seen other AI versions of this where they take a photo and it moves around and stuff. But it is getting incredible. I mean, that absolutely looks real. Looks real. Um, here I am. If you're watching on the Blaze TV, let me show you.
Starting point is 00:33:12 This is a, uh, picture of me on my first birthday, um, and my birthday cake. Now, this photo has been, you know, hung on a wall of our house forever, but I've never seen a video of me. God, that's weird. It's weird. And so I was looking at this and I was thinking, I don't remember the sound of my mother's voice anymore. Um, I was, you know, 13. or 14 when she died. And I remember when I couldn't remember her voice.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I remember when I'm like, oh my gosh, I don't remember what she sounded like anymore. It took me about 10 years and it was really horrible. That's a really tough thing. And I thought, my gosh, if I had an old tape of her, which I don't think I do, if I had an old tape of her, I could match that to a picture of her
Starting point is 00:34:01 and make her talk. And it would be weird, weird, because it's not her. It's not her. It's soulless. Okay. Here's another one. 1976.
Starting point is 00:34:14 This is, I was in the Rose Bowl parade marching for the bicentennial. I mean, there's no video of that unless you go to CBS, I think, who covered that parade and looked it up. But that's me. I'm 12. Here's me in 1984. I was doing something with the AMC movie channel. and it's crazy. It looks like film.
Starting point is 00:34:47 And so there's these reactions that came out. Elon Musk said, for most people, the best use of GROC app is turning old photos into video, seeing old friends and family members come to life. And then somebody said, these are not coming to life. The animation of pictures have no bearing on reality.
Starting point is 00:35:03 It's the interpretation of a soulless AI that has no idea what your family member was actually like, absolutely true. what you don't want a bunch of Twitter post and algorithms to pretend to be your grandma spit in the face of God but it's cool but it's so cool and hip does it spit in the face of God I don't think it's spitting in the face of God I think it is if you go that's my mother and remember this we are now entering the time of from 1990 when did we first meet it's 97 uh yeah right right right around the time that Ray Kurzweil came out with his book that I had been reading. And it was the age of spiritual machines.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And I said, they are going to claim consciousness. They're going to claim that they're human. They are, you're not going to be able to tell the difference. They are going to bring our dead relatives, quote back to life, all of these things. We're there. We're there. Yeah. I mean, we just saw an interview with Jim Acosta in a shooting very.
Starting point is 00:36:08 victim. That was so bad. Which was absolutely horrid. But that was, I mean, and that seems like, I don't know, we're learning all these lines as we go, right? This is something that we're all viewing in real time and figuring out what is the appropriate line. Like to me, quite clearly, you doing the magic trick and the kid coming back to life from the shooting to be interviewed by a supposed a journalist, totally different. And I can see the bright line in between them. Yeah, I can't too. You know, you're just to say, like, it's a cool little thing.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Like, yeah, cool. I'd love to see a picture of my mother moving. I'd love to see that. And it, but it's not my mom. And I'm very, very clear about that. Like, that's closer to the line to me. It's a little, it's not, it's nothing unethical about it. Like, like, Jim Acosta is way over the line because he's supposedly a journalist doing something obviously unethical using a dead child.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And you see his picture. Right. Like he is a definition. The Grock just spits out a picture of him. It's, and I'm being careful here with the way I'm phrasing this, but it's slightly less horrible to me for the parents of this child to want to, you know, darkly see, you know, their child and moving around as they would be. That's why. Well, that's why seances did so well after the wars.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Yeah. Pet Cemetery. Yeah. I was thinking of Pet Cemetery. Okay. All right. We can go there. And like, you could understand Herman Munster in Pet Cemetery.
Starting point is 00:37:48 No, he was the, he was the guy that lived next door, right? I don't remember. All I remember is, uh, uh, you can understand the thought of like, God, my child died in this terrible thing. Yeah. And I just, what would he have been like today? Like I can understand as a parent is wanting that. It's not a great idea.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Of Frankenstein. You know why Shelley, well, you know why Shelley wrote that? No. What was her name? Shelly Long. Mary Shelley, Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein.
Starting point is 00:38:20 It's a long story. It involved, you know, a contest between, you know, these writers. But she had been seeing electricity where they had been
Starting point is 00:38:30 shooting electricity into dead frogs and it would make their legs move. Right. Okay. And so, she looked at that and she was like, and I think she had just had a child die or somebody, but she was going through the mental anguish of death. Okay. And then she saw this and she thought,
Starting point is 00:38:50 ooh, what would it be like if we could bring the dead back? And that's kind of the germ, as I understand it, of Frankenstein. Well, that's what we're going through right now. Okay, except the physical body is not there. Right. I mean, and that's probably not that far away. Somebody will do. You could do it. Absolutely. I mean, soon.
Starting point is 00:39:17 The robotics, you can just, you could make it look like somebody. I mean, we're five to ten years away from somebody from a robot looking exactly like me, speaking like me, but not being me. Yeah. You know, not the, and not the Walt Disney. Let me kind of walk across this floor and sit down. You know, not an evening with the president, but an actual AI robot. And again, some of this, I think part of why the Jim Acosta thing was so poorly received by not even just the right, but everybody. Taking a child shooting victim, bringing him back to life as an adult and then having him terribly talk.
Starting point is 00:40:06 about gun control in an interview. Part of it's the journalistic thing. Part of it is just how tasteless it seems. I mean, I would have a problem. I mean, I think we're pretty, you know, it didn't really happen in my lifetime, you know, John F. Kennedy. It would be like bringing John F. Kennedy back to talk about gun control or Abraham Lincoln
Starting point is 00:40:24 and have him talk about gun control. That would just be so grotesque. It would be grotesque, but also way better than that. Like, seriously. Like, bringing back JFK, like, you'd be like, oh, you'd be like, oh, you'd roll your eyes, but like bringing back a child to utilize a dead child for your political purposes. I mean, it's so, that's terrible when they do it without the AI, let alone when they actually do it this way.
Starting point is 00:40:51 But I think the reason why it was so poorly received is because he went so far past the line so early. Like, when the pictures that you posted are the norm and everyone's used to seeing them, the line. were. It was, it's, it's, well, you're very much, you're too into this world. You're ahead of the parade on AI, certainly. So, because I, you know, there's, there's the, I'm just starting to see these things happen. And I'm just starting to see these things look legitimate like the ones you, you posted. You just see the stuff I haven't posted.
Starting point is 00:41:25 If you think this is incredible, you should see the stuff that's coming. It's like it's incredible. Yes. But he tried to jump so far. So far. And it was so it was poorly received. But as this becomes the norm, that line will start to move. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:41 And these things will get more and more common. And it's the same thing, I think, with Dave Rubin. Oh, yeah. You know, that didn't work out well for Dave. Oh, really? No, people were like, because I, you know, and Dave was just doing it. This is, I'm going on vacation. Why don't I just have a robot?
Starting point is 00:41:57 It'll be fun. It'll be fun. It's not, he's not trying to con anybody or anything. No, not at all. But it is so far away from being ready for prime time. it's so clearly. He could talk to him, but it's so clear. Why, Dave, that's a very good question.
Starting point is 00:42:12 You know, and you're like, oh, I see that. Yeah, it's still, the technology is not perfect yet. But you could see, we've advanced so far, so fast that you can see it's right around the corner. Like, you know, the examples we've been talking about in using AI where, you know, one of the things I use it for in real life is like you go and you go to a shelf at a Walmart and they have, you know, 47 types of glue, right? I don't know what kind of glue I need for whatever project I'm working on. Wow. Right. You're not a man.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I, a hundred percent admit this, right? Like, I don't know. That's not my world. I would have said, honey, I don't know what glue. Where's the Home Depot? What? Right. So you're twice the man I am.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Thank you. You take a picture of the entire thing. And you type into the AI say, hey, I'm doing this thing. Project. I'm wood to plexiglass, right? Like, what's the best glue for that? And it tells you. it's this glue, it's in the fourth row, in the blue box,
Starting point is 00:43:09 like it tells you exactly which one. That's unbelievable. It's absolutely unbelievable. To me, that seems like that is a 10-year innovation of AI. Not, like, I feel like six weeks ago, it didn't exist. No, it didn't. And now all of a sudden it's here, and it works really, really well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And now there's this where you're bringing photos to life. That wasn't here. A year ago we weren't doing that. Maybe it was the very beginning of it. The very beginning of it. But like now it's super common. It's on every one of these services is doing something like it. You can generate videos.
Starting point is 00:43:40 The newest one from Gemini is not only can you create a video from a picture, you can now walk through it like it's a video game and control which way you're going, where you're looking. You can do things to the environment, like paint a wall and then walk away, come back and the wall still painted. You are in the forest. You cut a tree down or you tie a ribbon around a tree. tree for you, so you can remember where you went, it will remember where those are. So when you go out, you maybe leave the game or whatever, you can come back and those ribbons are still there. It's like creating, you know, if you go back in the day, like to Doom or one of those video games where you could walk around the first person shooter thing. You're creating that in seconds
Starting point is 00:44:24 from one of your own photos? Minecraft. Minecraft. Imagine Minecraft. I mean, that's what, that was the beginning of this, was Minecraft. Yeah. Now it's like. like it's real. And you could just do it and it's like available in, and do it in seconds. And like that seems like a 20 year innovation to me.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And it happened in weeks, it felt like. And these things keep happening.

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