The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Ryan Mauro | 3/16/26

Episode Date: March 16, 2026

Mauro Institute Director Ryan Mauro joins to discuss Glenn’s upcoming Torch special, which focuses on the Islamization of the West, and the research that went into it. Glenn issues a warning to thos...e who choose what’s “almost right” instead of what’s right, which can eventually lead down a dark road. An armed man was arrested after entering an elementary school. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:45 No, no, no, not Chris Kyle. Kyle Chris. Wow. I mean, the guy is so sneaky as a villain. I mean, only one that could possibly stop him is man bat. But we'll tell you that. story. Also, Ryan Morrow is here to talk about the real enemy that we face. World War III is upon us. Most people don't know it. We need to talk about that. Also, what is the difference between right
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Starting point is 00:03:18 Welcome to the program. I am, uh, I find myself in a weird position. Uh, I have done radio for 40, this is my 49th year. Next year will be my 50th year of broadcast. And,
Starting point is 00:03:34 you know, I did it for, you know, when I was, you know, teenage years. I did it for the chicks, which never really showed up. That didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I did it for the fame and the funny and the fortune and whatever. That showed up temporarily and just was so meaningless and so empty. I found my purpose and drink. And then I decided to do a radio show, talk radio, and I was going to parody, talk radio. And 9-11 happened and everything on this show changed. I mean, the show used to be very, very funny.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And in some ways, I wish it still was as funny as it used to be. But the world just changed and it just got so darn serious. And so I started doing what I thought was right. And that was telling you what's right, what's wrong, blah blah blah blah. And I became honestly, in some ways, I became the guy that I wanted to parody. You know, the talk radio host was like,
Starting point is 00:04:47 I know everything because I'm the smartest guy alive. And everybody on talk radio does that. It's hard not to fall into that. Because this job requires you to have enough of an ego to say, this is the way it is, and actually believe it and back it up. But also, somehow or another, keep that humility that,
Starting point is 00:05:08 No, I don't really know what I'm talking about. I'm guessing, you know, like everybody else, I might have a better guess than everybody else, but I don't know anything. And so I find myself today looking at a landscape, and I'm going to talk about this next hour, looking at a landscape where our podcasters are all taking each other on, and I don't understand it. And I do understand that some people are very right, in my opinion. Some people are very wrong in my opinion. But I just wish people would stop tearing each other apart, because that's not helpful at all, at all. And it's not going to change anybody's mind. I know, because I've tried it before, and it doesn't work. It only just makes us into a smaller
Starting point is 00:05:53 and smaller community. We have to talk about principles and what we are for instead of who we're against or who's our enemy today. And I'm going to get into something that I heard this weekend next hour that is really important, not for the podcasters or for the broadcasters, but for you, because we all have a responsibility. You know, for the first time in human history, people have always had audiences, okay? You've been in Shakespeare at the Globe Theater, and, you know, Shakespeare had an audience. They had to come to the theater, but he had an audience. But for the first time in human history, audiences have an audience. In your pocket, whether it is five followers or five million followers, you have an audience.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And so they put you in a place where you have real responsibility, especially at times like today. You don't just repost things without thinking. and I know it's really tempting. And you can say, well, I don't know what's true. Well, if you don't know it's true, then you shouldn't post it. Or you should post it with, can anyone verify this? I mean, at the very least, can anyone verify this? And if they can't, if, you know, I heard that.
Starting point is 00:07:18 No, I have a source that told me, then you shouldn't be posting it. Okay. It's an opinion. And, you know, when the war broke out with Iran, I was watching the news all weekend long, and I'm trying to get an update on things. And I kept hearing these people from both sides of the argument yelling at each other and each saying that they were right. And, you know, this war is going to turn into a massive massacre for everybody, you know, in the Middle East, going to massacre of everybody in the United States. And I thought, neither of you know. You don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:54 You don't know this. Where are the facts? Can you just give me facts, please? Those aren't popular. Opinions are popular and opinions without principles. You know, most people never choose evil. They never choose evil. Not knowingly, most. I mean, some do, but most don't. People get lost and they find themselves surrounded by evil because the real choice in life is between right and almost right. Almost right you can pick, and that almost right could be picked even,
Starting point is 00:08:36 you know, consciously you can go like, yeah, but that one's a little easier, so I'm going to pick that one. Okay? And so you might do it for your own comfort, for your own ease, you don't want to be a hardliner or whatever it is, but you'll choose almost right.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And if you keep choosing almost right, before you know it, you're standing in a place that you're surrounded by evil and you're like, how did I get here? Well, because you kept choosing almost right instead of right. Wrong has an odor to it. Wrong leaves fingerprints. Wrong will set off an alarm bell in your soul. Almost right. Just slips in wearing the clothes of justice or patriotism or compassion, security, faith, or common sense. almost right. It says, relax, we're on the same side. But 10 almost right decisions later, and you're standing with people who do not share your principles, only your grievance.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And so you're left standing there without a compass. And you're like, I don't know, I don't even know how to do the truth. I don't know how to, how do I even find the truth? How do I know what the truth is? May I give you some principles that you can use as a compass. Truth before tribe. Truth before tribe means you don't lie for your side. You don't trim the facts for your side. You don't just leave some important details out for your side. You don't pretend, you know, not to know what you know because the other team might benefit. Truth before tribe. Really important. Number two, human dignity before ideology. That means you don't ever turn people into abstractions, you know, whether they're Jews or Arabs or immigrants or protesters or soldiers or political opponents, talk radio hosts, whoever it is, we have to start looking at people as individuals. human dignity over ideology.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Liberty, number three, liberty under law. That means freedom never comes from mob permission, ever. It is ordered, ordered freedom, restrained by principle and law. Equal justice means your enemy gets due process to. This one is so hard. And this is one that is going to come into play in 2006, maybe, or sorry, 2025, maybe 2008, because, you know, people think an injustice is done. And they're just going after.
Starting point is 00:11:38 So we're going to have trials. Okay. Well, be very careful on what you're doing today. Equal justice means your enemy gets due process too because if it disappears from him today, it will not be there for you tomorrow. Here's one that I think people are having a hard time with on both sides. National loyalty without state worship. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:12:09 I love my country, but I don't worship it. I love it. And because I love it, I recognize it can go wrong quickly. And so I love my country enough to tell the truth about my country, not just to drag it around in the streets, but to tell the truth in hopes that there is a way to fix it, not just to bitch about it, but to motivate people to take the steps to fix it.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So we're not that country. Next principle. Moral clarity without dehumanization. It means there is good and evil. But let's be careful when we name evil, that we don't dehumanize people. You can call it out by name, but don't become infected by it. Don't become everything you despise. Here's one that I think so many people miss, especially in my mind.
Starting point is 00:13:23 business currently. Free speech with accountability. You have the right to speak. You have the right to question. You have the right to say things that I really am dead set against. But you don't get to escape the moral judgment for reckless speech or dishonest speech or speech that is just meant to inflame instead of illuminate. And we need to figure out how to tell the different between illumination and inflaming speech. Because there's a lot of speech that happens now. They're just trying to get you to react. Because if you react, they become bigger.
Starting point is 00:14:09 They control the narrative. And it's hard not to react. It's really hard. But stop it. It's meant to inflame. Don't become the gasoline or the match that they want you to be. Power must always expect scrutiny because every institution lies to itself sooner or later. And same with people.
Starting point is 00:14:38 You must, I expect it. I don't like it. I expect scrutiny. And I do want to know what people who are honest are saying about where I got it wrong. because it's easy for me or you or anybody else to grow arrogant. It's really easy for me to grow arrogant and say, I don't know what they're talking about. I want to know what people are saying. So I can get better.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And the last one is means matter as much as ends. Right now we live in a world where it doesn't matter what you say or what you do today. Ends justify the means. No, they do not. Every tyranny in history was sold as an emergency shortcut. We have to do this right now because. Reality doesn't care what helps your side. The bill always comes through. It always shows up in the end. You need to have principles. You have to be able to Train yourself to know the difference between true, almost true, and false. Ask yourself, is this factual? Is it fair?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Is it consistent? Is it lawful? Is it moral? Would I defend this rule if my enemy was using it against me tomorrow? If the answer on any of those is no, stop. because you're on the almost right road. You know what's strange about back pain? It usually doesn't show up with blaring sirens and crashing symbols.
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Starting point is 00:17:51 and how this has worked before I bring Ryan in. Yeah, so Ryan is what I like to call the research circles, one of the big guns, and he's very specialized in a lot of these, and especially this topic. He's probably one of the original OGs, one of the original gangsters of tracking a lot of this stuff down. And I put him in a very high league with a bunch of the, a few of the other,
Starting point is 00:18:15 people that were pointing a lot of this stuff out. Going the far as back is the Bush administration even, but heavily during the Obama administration, where a lot of this stuff was starting to slow drip leak out and we were getting a picture of all this, and then it just went away. Pretty wildly. It just went away.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And I remember thinking when we were putting this together and we were looking to bring Ryan in. I was like, it would be great if we found a lot of documents or had access to documents that would show maybe why some of this went away or what was coming to light back then. and Ryan is the guy with the receipts. He's like, well, I've got them all. And I was like, oh boy, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:18:52 This is going to be unlike anything you've probably ever seen before, but so critical for why Ryan was brought in. It's going to be awesome. I have to tell you, I would be remiss if we didn't thank God because we had several specials, this four months ago, several specials we were looking at, and all of them seemed equally as important. And this one may have at the time even seemed less,
Starting point is 00:19:15 important than a couple of the others. And, you know, we approach everything we do prayerfully, and we decided this has got to be the first special for the torch. And look at the timing. I mean, it could not be more appropriate and more important than it is right now, because we are at war. And I'm not just talking about, you know, the war with Iran. I believe we are in World War III. people just haven't caught up to it yet. Ryan, thanks for joining us. Would you agree with that statement? Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I think that people, I think people recognize that there's a global conflict, but as for it's actually being a world war, I don't think people understand the gravity of it or that it's happening or how expansive it is because all of our adversaries are talking about defeating us the exact same way. And it's through using the model
Starting point is 00:20:13 that we're going to be exposing on, on the torch through this special. So it's the Islamist, and then everyone else is taking their cues from them because they've been so darn successful. So, Ryan, you and I, I can't remember the first time we met, but you and I, we, you helped me on stuff when I was at Fox. Did you not? I mean, we've known each other for a very long time. Yes, I think I was just communicating with you by email back then and then more substantively short, shortly after like 2014 or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:43 because, you know, I did not know what I was talking about when I said the Islamists, the communists, the Marxists, will all work together, you know, to destabilize the Middle East, Israel, Europe, and then eventually the United States. I didn't realize that was called the Red Green Alliance at the time. When did we know about the Red Green Alliance really, really know about it? Has that been a long-term thing? we should have known about it during the Cold War. I mean, the example that you often mentioned is the Islam of Revolution in Iran being such a key example. So the information was there, but people weren't putting it together
Starting point is 00:21:24 and realizing how solidified of a threat it was until, like really your show on Fox is really the one that made it normalized for people to start talking about it. And saying that there's this red-green alliance. And actually something you said that you were criticized for that, you may have even forgotten, was you mentioned that they're also anarchists. So it's a red-green alliance, but there's also an anarchist element that's increasingly prominent. And so when we talk about the Islamist threat, there's this interesting fusion happening where they not only ally
Starting point is 00:21:57 with anarchists and the communists, but I would say it's no longer a horseshoe theory where they just get closer together. I call it the oval theory now that there's been an actual fusion into a single entity. People said at the time when I said that they said, anarchists don't work with anyone. Communist and Marxist and socialist won't work with a religious theocracy. So you don't know what you're talking about. Why do they all work together? The part of it is just the enemy of my enemy is my friend. But I think the affection has grown since then. So there's a tactical, element to it. They both, they all believe in essentially the anarchist goal of destroying the authority in the United States and then from the ashes, they'll be able to rebuild what the land should
Starting point is 00:22:52 be modeled on in their mind because they know so much better than the founding fathers. And that's the kind of commonality there. But I must say from monitoring their internal chats for so many years, it's more than just, oh, we have a common enemy. There's very often brotherly affection and they put their differences off to the side because they each believe it's so inevitable that their ideology will prevail when they defeat the West that it's like not really worth arguing about. You know, the Islamists say, well, when America is defeated, you're going to see the glory of Allah and you will join us. You'll either become a Muslim or you'll accept that, you know, we're right. So we don't need to fight
Starting point is 00:23:30 about it. And then the communists and anarchists will say, well, the reason the Islamists are so radicalizes because the Jews are doing it, the Zionists are doing it to them. And so you remove the Western and Zionist influence, well, they won't be radical anymore. And then we can all get together and enjoy paradise on earth as they see it. And do they not see what happened? Explain for anybody who doesn't know, what happened in 1979 in Iran. That's an exceptionally aggressive example. So what they would say is what happened in 1979 is that you had the basically the far left of Iran, which was the communists and the Marxists teaming up with the Islamists.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And then there were a lot of people who genuinely want to move the country in a more liberal direction and weren't part of either of them. But those were the two main camps, was the Marxists and the Islamists. And so we call the Islamic Revolution now, but during then it was just a revolution against the Shah. And so he gets overthrown, and you have a joint red-green alliance come to power. And very quickly, Ayatollah Khomeini and the theocrats,
Starting point is 00:24:36 then slaughtered and destroyed the communists and sidelined them. But even in the inner circles on the Islamist end, they'll say, well, we don't necessarily have to be that aggressive next time around. So they wouldn't find some way of saying, well, that example doesn't apply. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Okay. I want to address something that I'm hearing a lot that people say, you know, we had four terrorist attacks since Operation Epic Fury began. The Austin Bar shooting, the New York protest bombing, the Michigan Synagogue, and Old Dominion University.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Three of those happened last week. And people are saying, this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for Donald Trump and Operation Epic Fury. Well, it may not have happened last week, but I want to take a quick break. And then I want you to address, is this? a reaction to war? If we just would have left this alone, would this have not happened? And we'll continue
Starting point is 00:25:41 our conversation here in just a second. By the way, our special is on Thursday night, 8 p.m. only at glenbeck.com slash torch. Make sure you get it. You're streaming the best of Glenn Beck. To hear more of this interview and others, download the full show podcasts, wherever you get
Starting point is 00:25:57 podcasts. Okay, this story out of Texas. man wearing tactical gear walked into a Texas elementary school last Tuesday through an improperly closed door and asked about the security presence on campus. Kyle Chris. 39. Hey Jason, is Jason in there? No. Kyle Chris, and that an interesting name? 39 years old. Also known as Muji Mohaned Najeeam was arrested at his home. I'm sure I said that properly too. Was arrested at his home Wednesday night and faces a felony charge for unlawfully
Starting point is 00:26:43 carrying a weapon in a prohibited place after the instant at Zawink Elementary School. Chris, originally from Baghdad Iraq, became a naturalized citizen on August 24, 2022. That's when he changed his name to Kyle Chris. Chris Kyle was an amazing sharpshooter. Was he not, Sarah? From Texas and somebody who was over in Iraq and killed a lot of people in Iraq and was under threat all the time from people in Iraq. He comes over and doesn't name himself Chris Kyle. He names himself Kyle Chris.
Starting point is 00:27:36 He came from Baghdad. He was arrested at his home, located minutes from the school. He allegedly told authorities he was a security guard. He was actually unemployed. What happened was he got caught in the they call it a killbox. It's a little security zone.
Starting point is 00:27:58 You can't get in through one doors until the other doors behind you are closed. and then you have to have the security buzz you one way or another. And he got in because a parent was walking out, and he grabbed the door before it clicked shut. He got into the killbox. He was wearing a uniform. He was wearing his gun on his hip.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And he said, I'm just here to check on security. Well, the school was smart enough. You know, they're in Texas. So they were smart enough to go, really? Why don't you stay there? We're going to have our armed security come out and meet you. And so while he's in the box, the armed security said, who are you exactly? What exactly are you looking for? Knew it didn't make sense. They called police. He fled. And then the police showed up at his house. They found him. I'm wondering how this one's going to turn out.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Watch yourself, America. You should be on different footing. Watch yourself. We are in troubled times. And there's a lot of people that would like to dismiss all of the warning signs. You know the guy who was accused of attacking the synagogue in Michigan last week? Yeah. Yeah. His brother is a Hezbollah commander. And he was killed in an airstrike last week.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Oh. So he was saying. Well, if he was sad, then he should have attacked that synagogue. He has every right to do that because he's sad, right? So wait a minute. Hmm. Hezbollah. His brother was a commander and he was here in the United States.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Huh. Now, I want you to know, well, let me just give you the story. Let me just give you the story from NPR because it's just too good. Lebanon. As you arrive in this town in Lebanon's Beka Valley, one of the first things you notice is a poster of Iran's late supreme leader, the Ayatollah Khomeini, plastered across a concrete wall. I'm sure that's one of the first things you notice once you enter.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Is there only one road and one wall and one poster? Usually about 25,000 people live here, and many support the Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah. Church bells ring out. Uh-huh. But there's hardly anyone in the streets. Stores are shuttered. Most people have heated evacuation orders as Israel continues its aerial assault in southern Lebanon.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Recorded hymns echo from the church down the empty streets. Wait, what? This is the hometown of Iman Mohammed Ghazili, the suspect who on Thursday attacked the synagogue in West. Bloomfield, Michigan, ramming his car into the building and opening fire. The FBI says the 41-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound after he was confronted by the synagogue's security officers. Gazzili had lived in the United States for more than a decade, but he kept strong ties with his relatives, including his brother, who is a commander in Hezbollah. Four members of
Starting point is 00:31:31 his family were killed in Israeli airstrikes, just as the war involving Iran began. He also had a niece and a nephew and all killed in the airstrike. As the sunset, they were gathered at home. The attacker's younger brother, they were just breaking fast for Ramadan. There it is home. But the house today is nothing more than a pile of rubble. The roof caved in, water leaks from a severed pipe clothes or strewn on top. Children's toys are covered in dust. Now, he doesn't mention nowhere in this. Does it mention that the brother again was a commander of Hezbollah? We're just talking about the toys that are now there and that bombed out house and how sad he was to lose his brother.
Starting point is 00:32:29 a commander of Hezbollah. Just take a moment. You want to feel a little victory? This comes from NPR. We defunded it. Yeah. Feels good, doesn't it? You did the right thing.
Starting point is 00:32:49 There is right and there is almost right. Defunding NPR? Absolutely right. Then you have this story. Police standoff at the Children's Hospital ended tragically Thursday morning, but a new bizarre detail about the story has emerged.
Starting point is 00:33:06 You can't out-bizarre anything in the news today. There's no way you could get more bizarre than just the regular news today. Dallas police were conducting an investigation into a man who had an active warrant. They followed him into the parking garage of the Children's Health Hospital late at night. He had a gun, and he pointed it towards officers.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Police say the man, known as Mike King, went in the parking garage, barricaded himself inside a vehicle, refused to come out. He came out of the vehicle. When he did, he had a gun. He pointed it towards the officers, officers shot and fired. SWAT medical services attempted to render aid, but the man was pronounced dead at the scene. Boo-hoo.
Starting point is 00:33:48 A moment to cry and shed a tear. Okay, I think that's enough time. Apparently, Mike King was the head of the security services for Jasmine Crockett. And I have to tell you, when I first heard this story, I thought, boy, the people on the left, they sure know how to pick their security people, don't they? I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:15 He was wanted by police for impersonating a law enforcement officer. He allegedly also drove a replica undercover police vehicle. What exactly is a replica undercover police vehicle? I don't know what that would be. While using license plates that were allegedly stolen from cars outside of a military recruiting office. This guy couldn't get any dirtier.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I mean, he just couldn't be more obvious a bad guy. Let's see. Impersonating a law enforcement officer. drove a replica undercover police vehicle, I don't know what that is, while using license plates that he stole from cars outside of a military recruiting office. Wow, this is quite the story. He had been using several different aliases while conducting his business, which was called off-duty police services. The online platform connected North Texas police officers with off-duty work. Representative Crockett's office has declined to comment on the multiple reports.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I'm not sure what she would say other than, wait. What? Let me take you to this story. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy was asked on Sunday, why do you think the Democrats are not passing the funding for DHS? This is Maria Bartoromo. She said, to Sean Duffy, are Democrats waiting for Americans to get hurt or killed before they make your security a top priority?
Starting point is 00:36:09 Look, Senator Slotkin from Michigan, where the synagogue attack was, she voted every time against funding DHS, and once the threat to her community was real from radicals, now she says, let's open up DHS. I think that begs the question. Are Democrats going to get hurt or get hurt? people killed before they actually put your security before those who have come to this country unlawfully and illegally. I hope that's not their position, but, you know, we could get to a better place if they would just come to their senses and negotiate after they open up. I think they're going to pay a heavy, heavy price on this. I mean, did you hear about the guy, did you hear about Kyle Chris? I mean, is that just an obvious bad guy's name? Because everybody in Texas knows who Chris Kyle is. Your name is. Your name.
Starting point is 00:36:59 is Kyle Chris? Really? I mean, you would meet that guy at a party, at least here in Texas, and everybody would be like, who's the dude calling himself Kyle Chris? Okay, maybe it's just me.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Let me see. Dan Crenshaw in the news telling Margaret Brennan that misinformation played a role in his stunning loss. No? No, Dan, I think it was you that played a stunning role in your stunning loss myself. And one other story before I get to something else that there is a great op-ed on X that I read about what the left is doing to itself.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I'm sorry, what the right is doing to itself. Let me give you this story. Former Obama campaign managers warn the Democratic Party. is a mess. The campaign managers for Barack Obama say the party is a mess ahead of the 2028 presidential election due to the fact they don't know what they stand for. Okay. Yes. True. And yet you're not hearing anybody in the media talk about that. You're not talking about how they don't have any clue as to what they stand for. And when they do stand for something, the American people are against it.
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