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Episode Date: April 11, 2025

After months of alleged federal obstruction, Florida charges President Trump’s would-be assassin, Ryan Routh, with attempted murder. Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to share his Easter box of Keksi cookies. Glenn asks: Do liberals really hate Trump so much that they’ll embrace Democratic politicians who STILL lie about China’s role in the COVID pandemic? Capital Research Center's Ryan Mauro joins Glenn to unmask how pro-Hamas groups are now calling for the overthrow of “occupied” America. Glenn reviews how Jay Leno took on California’s new ridiculous proposed regulations for classic cars. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Now let's get to work. Yesterday, Pat, Donald Trump, negotiated for the release of a ballerina who was called a traitor to Russia and was going to be in prison forever and he got a released and she says she's not a traitor

she didn't do anything she would never all she did was donate $51 to a Ukrainian charity to like feed people and they called her a traitor for that because they went through a phone and found it and did it feed people to feed people. So that would be bad.

If Ukrainians got fed, then you're a trade. Russia has a very long history of not feeding Ukrainian. That's true. It's been their lead policy for about 100 years. Every time they go to war, they're like, let's not feed the Ukrainians. Or sometimes when they're part of their country. Right. And it's peacetime.

So, so, so Pat, I just want to show you this picture of the ballerina. Yeah. Does she look like she could betray her country? No. No, not at all. No. There's no chance. There's a, no.

anybody else. Nope, nope. She doesn't betray her diet plan. Nothing. No. Nothing. Speaking of betraying diet plans. Yeah. I have a bone to pick with you, Pat Gray. Yeah.

I have this box. Wait, can we, before you get to that, because before you get to that, hang on. I want to talk to you about somebody else with some boobs. And that is this guy. Let me say. Right here. See him? Oh, wow.

That's what's his name. Ryan Routh. Oh, wow. Is he wearing a crop top? He's a. very, I don't know, but he's, he's, he's got man boobs. Yeah, he does. Big man boobs. And they're nasty. Right. And so, I don't know, did you hear about what happened in Florida? And they're, they're now finally charging him with first degree attempted murder for trying to murder the president.

Yes. And the, the, apparently, according to Florida, the attorney general for Florida, he says, said for 206 days, the federal government stonewalled us. And I'm finally able to announce that now that Donald Trump is in, they're no longer stonewalling us. Oh, nice. Right. So they can charge him. And now he's also going to be charged by the DOJ because, you know, Donald Trump is in office. He's going to be charged for attempted assassination on the president of United States. He's going to go to jail for a very long time. I mean, can you think of anything more obvious that you're on the bad side, you're on the wrong side when a guy who's got a gun pointed at the president and is on record saying, I'm going to kill him and I don't care if I go to jail

for the rest of my life for it. And you're like going, yeah, it is dismiss him. Is there, are you, are like you're in law enforcement. You're at the FBI. You're at the DOJ. Do you begin to think, you know what? Maybe we're on the wrong side. Maybe we're the baddies.

Maybe we're the bad guys here. Maybe we're the bad guys. Okay, so I was only talking about his man boobs because I got a fat and I know that's what you, you know, that's because you're there

with the box of cookies. I am. Kexi cookies. KekSI.com. Pat, of course. This is a lovely box you have. This is a nice Easter. Yep.

So the Easter bunny on it. Easter Bunny. Notice you don't put Christ on the box. I mean, I don't. You're not a Christian. You're not a Christian. I am a Christian. Okay.

You're just going with the bunny, though. We decided to go with the bunny. I didn't make that decision now. You were in rooting for Christ. I was. Okay. I begged them. Right.

Put Jesus on the cross. Let's show what's going on here. Well, that's not Easter. That's the death you would think. Maybe the empty tomb would have been okay. Okay. Right. Gosh, you, I, you don't get.

you don't get Christianity at all. Apparently not. No, that was not the bone I had to pick. Okay. All right. So it's not the bunny. It's not the issue. Very beautiful box.

It's a beautiful box. Can you order these still or are they still available? It's sold out. And okay. And then it is, this is what you do every time. You bring a sting and stuff and then it sold out. And then it says underneath there, you know, turn the box. And egg squisset.

Bites a weight. Get it? Egg squisit. So what exactly does the egg have to do with Christ? He ate eggs. Wow. It was on the earth. Big omel.

All right. Okay. I didn't know. What gospel is that found? Steele. It's in Olive. It's the gospel of Steve. Chef Steve.

Chef Steve. Anyway. Again, it's not the box because I think that's very nice. I will say the shoddy workmanship of your product is something I need to call out. Really? Yes. All right. Because I am going in here right now.

Mm-hmm. This is a guy. I don't know what flavor cookie this is. They're all nicely individually wrapped. inside. But look at this. This is... Oh my gosh. This is half a cookie. This is half a cookie. This is not a whole cookie.

You found that in your box right there? In my box right here that I've been waiting to bring home. You sold half of it already. I did not eat half of it. It is just... I have not touched it. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I think ate half of it. He had to have because nobody else would have. Yeah. That's outrageous, too. How do you explain this? Because you also have in this box, which is now sold out so we can't promote. a orange chocolate brownie situation.

Yes. Which looks incredible. Oh, man, I wanted a piece of that. Right. Yeah, you said you wanted a piece of it. You mentioned it like several times yesterday.

I really wanted to try it. Wow, I wanted to try it. When I open it up, look what it looks like. Oh my gosh. It is, there's only like a quarter of it left.

Not even. I would say it's an eighth of this brownie. Do you have, who packaged that box? Right. I wonder. I'm going to look into it. You have a bunch of really,

really, I'm going to say it. I'm going to be, I'm going to be politically incorrect but honest, you have a bunch of fat people packaging those good ones. Wow. That might be it. That might be it. Several of them have gained weight recently. Neither of you should look anywhere else but there. I promise if you go to kexie.com, we'll make sure that your cookies are whole. Really? Yeah, I will.

You could guarantee that? I would personally guarantee that. Wait a minute. Could I be... Now, if Glenn is here, you know, when your cookies arrive, I just want to be the inspector. I'll be Inspector 12. I'll be inspector number 12. Yeah? Yeah. So I'll make sure your cookies are appropriate to be sent. Really? Yes. And not not harmful in any way? Not harmful, not poison. Just fresh. I'll make sure they're all fresh. Do you have any recommendations, Pat, because you have in here like you can freeze the cookies or whatever. You have like ways you can enjoy them. Should you leave the box that you want to consume in a room with Glenn when you're not in the room?

Well, whoa. Wait, how am I suddenly getting thrown shade on this thing? I'm nothing to do with your shoddy workmanship. Wow. I'm concerned, Pat. I'm concerned about it. I am too, Pat.

Yeah. I am too. Now you're on my side? I've been on your side the whole time. Okay. Yeah, I mean, geez. Holy cow. So, I don't know if you heard the ruling from the court on President Trump now having,

this headline just bothered. It just bothers me. Trump administration appeals ruling granting Associated Press access to, quote, President's most intimate spaces, and quote. Most intimate? Yeah. Because I don't go to the Oval Office as the most intimate space of the president. Right.

I'm sure he's got other spaces. He probably does have other. But that is exactly what. So now AP has to be allowed on Air Force. one and in the Oval Office and in his bedroom, all of his intimate spaces under the covers. I might, I might understand this if we were the Bill Clinton presidency, but it's not. So the Trump. So when he's like truiting from the toilet, they're right in there.

They can be right there. They can be right there. They must be allowed there. They must be allowed. Right. Yep. So he said that he doesn't want them in, you know, the White House and, you know, press room and everything else because, I mean, he actually listed, let me see if I have it, the fake report about the explosion that took place October 7th, 2020, outside the hospital in Gaza.

It blamed Israel, okay. The false report claiming the U.S. Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard called Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, very good friends. deceptive framing of Vice President J.D. Vance's speech concerning the Georgia school shooting. The false election claim about Project 2025 being the Republican blueprint for a second Trump term in the White House. False report that Russia fired a missile into Poland. And of course, what really broke the camel's back here was not calling it the Gulf of America. Right.

And he's right about that. I mean, it is officially called the Gulf of America. He can do that. Yeah, you might think it's dumb, but he can do it. Nobody said anything about, you know, Mount Denali. Right, right. Nobody said anything about that. I mean, we kept calling it Mount McKinley, right?

Yeah. But we weren't, we were not a, you know, we do what we want to do. You know, like, right. I'm not asking you to get into the president's most intimate space. Right. I don't. I think. And have you been allowed?

his bathroom while he's tweeting or truthing? No, no, no. Or Barack Obama's. No. No. So. That's what's one of the- Usually because Big Mike is there and I'm afraid of him. It's fascinating to see that because she, the argument from the left is, and seemingly the court was you can't choose. You can't pick and choose, right?

Which is a fine standard to have, but like it's never been our standard. I mean, how often did we try to get access to, I don't know, intimate spaces, but spaces anywhere near a Democratic president as the blaze. By the dumpster. Right. Yeah. Can we, I don't know. Can we sit outside like while you're throwing away the recyclables? No, nothing. They never gave us anything. So if the standard is, we're not going to discriminate at all. Okay. But like that means you're letting us in, right? Like I don't. Right. I don't understand what the why. Like there was a, the white, the press, you know, what was the group that the White House press corps? Press Corps where they kind of had an arrangement where they made those decisions.

Correct. But like, and process-wise, they had to dissolve that for the president to be able to make those decisions. Right. But they did that. They went through that process. And I love that. So they can make those decisions.

Well, they can make those decisions. What they're saying is they don't have to guarantee a question. They don't have to guarantee a seat. But they can't ban them. Right. Which is kind of, I think that's fair. Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, you know, that's what's happened to us.

You know, the blaze, you know, under every administration, it's been like, except this one, it's been like, yeah, no, you're not coming in. You're not coming in. Well, that's wrong. And now if you want to say, oh, you know what, we have you on the list. It's just not your turn yet. Okay, we all know the game that's being played, but that's the way they play the game. Yes. So the president doesn't have to take

He doesn't have to take a question from them He doesn't have to have them there He just can't ban them from those spaces I think that's fine So does that mean every single person that That claims to be a journalist? Right. Must be allowed.

What's the standard here? Yeah, what is that standard? I mean, look, the AP obviously has been around for a long time They do hit I'm sure some standards that many other journalists don't But there's going to be a lot of citizen journalists now that insist on being included, aren't there? I mean, I would if I was in that position.

The government said to the AP that they are on an equal playing field as other situated outlets that are similar to them. Despite the AP use of disfavored terminology, the judge said the court does not order the government to grant the AP permanent access to the Oval Office, the East Room, or any other media event. It does not bestow.

a special treatment upon the Associated Press. Now, Trump is appealing this. I don't think it's actually that bad. No. All right. No. So they have to come in. I don't have to take a single question from you.

He just doesn't want to even look at them, which is, I don't blame him. And you know what's amazing is these people are so arrogant, so unbelievably arrogant. Do you remember the pressure that came on me when we were at Fox? and who was it that was the White House correspondent at the time? And I said something good about him. Was it Jake Tapper? No. No, he was...

No, was it, no. Remember we had a White House press conference, a press correspondent at Fox News. And at one point... Oh, Major Garrett? Was it Major Garrett? Maybe it was, yeah, Major Garrett. And at one point, he just asked all the right questions,

and I had a picture of him framed, and I put it on my desk, and I'm like, major Garrett. I think I have a thing for you right now. And I got my head handed to me. That's going to get him. They're never going to ask a question of him ever again. Don't you ever say anything about our White House correspondence?

Ever again, you're going to get a shut out. Plus it creeped out Major Garrett. Well, you were asking to get into all of his intimate spaces when I thought was weird. What's a problem with that? AP's there. Let me tell you about Patriot Mobile. every single month like clockwork they take your money you don't you don't love your phone company you don't even trust your phone company but you stay month after month year after year why because switching

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And don't forget, rate us on iTunes. So it has been a little frightening this week. And you're looking at things. And, you know, Donald Trump might seem callous to some because he'll just say, you know, hey, stop freaking out. Stop freaking out. And it's easy to say that as a negotiator, if you're negotiating in a company and you can say to your staff behind closed doors, listen, we're going to do some stuff, but I'm negotiating, don't freak out. Anybody freaks out? We're going to lose a negotiation. Don't freak out. He's been trying to do that, but he has to say it

on a global stage where everybody is watching him. So he's trying to say, don't freak out. I got this. I got this. And it's required us to have faith. And, you know, that's hard to give to a politician, any politician, especially if you didn't vote for that politician, if you don't like Donald Trump, you're not going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

You're going to think he's destroying the country. And it's really interesting because those who didn't vote for Donald Trump because they thought he would destroy the country, most likely. likely voted for the last administration. And it didn't matter that they were literally on the take from one of our enemies, literally making millions of dollars, taking money to influence decisions from China. It didn't matter that they were lying, they were cheating, that they were literally stealing from you. Now we know through USAID, through all of these NGOs, they were literally stealing from you,

let alone lying to you. Remember when I told you about the Great Reset, something, you know, ESG, DEI, all these things that we now are very, very well aware of, and we know they are absolutely true. They were implemented by the same people who said they were conspiracy theories. I mean, that's the one thing I can't get past is the people, how do you get past?

How do you hate Donald Trump so much that you can still run to the people who have lied to you over and over again about things that do matter? You know, when Donald Trump said, I had the biggest, I had the biggest crowd ever. Does that matter? If he's telling the truth or lying, does that matter? No, we're not, we're not, we're not trying to undermine capitalism and go to a global government through ESG and DEI and the World Economic Forum. That lie matters. That one matters. That one will matter for generations.

That one matters to your children and your grandchildren. But for some reason, some people will just continue to dismiss that. I want to remind you that while we're in this situation with China, first of all, China is the source of COVID. Did you see this week what they came out with on the... that Biden covered up something we reported on almost, I mean, within a couple of months of COVID, we said, you know, we've been doing our homework on this. And there was an event with a global army. And all of the armies around the world, they were kind of wargaming and getting together.

And our troops were there too. And it was all in Wuhan. And they came home and they were sick. Remember that? And we're like, that might have been the first kind of out. outbreak of this. And everyone called us conspiracy. They just, they just released the documents that show that Joe Biden knew that. It was true. And they buried it. So we're dealing with a country like China, really, really bad. You know that and I know that. We are dependent on China now.

And that can't happen. Do you remember what COVID was like when everybody was like, oh, you can't get that? Can't get that? You can't get that. You can't get surgical masks because they're all made in China. How many times did we in 2020, 2021, 2022 say, I've never seen this in the United States before. Wait a minute. There's a shortage of what? Okay. We weren't used to that.

Don't forget that. Don't forget that. Especially when it comes to things like medication and rare earth minerals. You may not know exactly what rare earth minerals are or your friends might not know. but rare earth minerals are what it's going to control the world. You don't have access to rare earth minerals. You can't make batteries or chips. Okay?

Nothing. China is buying them up from all over the world, and we have created this country where we can't even mine our own rare earth minerals. And underneath some of our mountains, we have more rare earth minerals than every place in the world combined. But our government has shut that off. Now, why? Let me again remind you what we've just come out of.

The Cloward and Piven strategy. Cloward and Piven were these two university professors back in the 60s. And when I first brought them up back in the early 2000s, everybody was like, that's crazy. She's just a sweet old lady. She didn't mean any of that stuff. Yes, she did. Yes, she did.

She was the one at the White House. with Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton that did the motor voter law. That was her. Why? Get people, everybody who's registered for a license, get them registered to vote. The whole thing, her whole plan with her husband, Cloward and Piven, the whole thing was to collapse America economically, overwhelm the system and collapse it economically. We're dealing with that reality, okay?

whether it's intentional or not, we all know. We all know. You look at this world and you see, my gosh, is this a sprawling chaotic system that we've all been swept up in? And it has strangely worked in many ways until it doesn't work because of something like COVID. And then it all falls apart. And you look at everything that we're doing, the endless wars, the draining of our spirit and our resources with these endless wars, government spending like there's absolutely no tomorrow, printing money until it feels like monopoly cash.

Globalism that has left us leaning on our enemies for things as basic as medicine and rare earth minerals. Elites in our universities and now running our schools that are destroying our children by teaching them to be victims and not teaching them how to empower themselves by learning how to think. Worst of all, the global governments, the World Economic Forum, the WHO, the United Nations, all those things that have said to us for years, no, we're not doing that, we're not doing that. And now we know they have been doing it.

And with our help from the elites and our own governments, and they have redesigned the world, they have infiltrated a compliant press that denies the truth, they are continually defying common sense and they are defying the will of the people openly openly destroying our nations destroying our history our unity now arresting those who dare stand against them whether it's the guy down the street on the school board or at the school board meeting that's like hey you guys are all crooks what are you doing to my kids those who are protesting rape gangs in England. They're off the street.

Actual leaders running for higher office against the machine in France and Romania. They tried to do it here. This is all a house of cards. And it's trembling under its own weight. And deep down, every single one of us know it. One way or another, we all know it. Whether you're in denial or not, that's up to you. Even those on the left, the ones who have been the loudest about keeping it going all along,

the ones who are now protesting and burning Tesla's, unless you're a useful idiot, unless you're somebody who's like, yeah, our side's always right, I'm going to burn down a Tesla factory. Unless you're just a useful idiot, you know this is not about what's right and wrong. This is about keeping the decline of this nation

and the entire West on that path. Because the elites, some of those that are tied to the last president and his circle push this idea of the Great Reset, which is a managed decline. They see the cracks just as much as I do. They're trying to control the fall so they can control our future. They know there's too much money to be lost,

so let's get together with all the big banks and the big corporations and finding out more and more our CIA and everybody else. And we'll manage this collapse, keep the people down, keep the people quiet and then we'll control everything and we'll reset. That's not, God didn't give you the right to do that. God didn't get the right for anybody to do that to a whole population of people. So this is what we have been fighting against. And now Donald Trump is standing up and saying,

that is so deep and metastasized. to save it, we have to turn this thing a hundred and a... This is the world's largest aircraft carrier. Ever in the imagination of mankind. It's like an imperial stormtrooper ship, you know, of an aircraft carrier. Practically half a continent and you've got to turn that thing around. So let me talk to you about fear. Just that should scare the hell out of all of you.

Every single one of us. It should scare our children and our children's children. It should scare everybody who's in the sound of my voice because you know it's true. There is trouble whether it's intended or not. This doesn't work anymore. Okay? And it's because we got off common sense and common values. Now the question is, are you going to fear it or are you going to face it?

And that's really what this election, I think, was about least for me. I see one guy who's willing to stand up and say the truth and then actually follow through with action. I don't see politicians follow through with action. He's actually not afraid of doing it. I'm not afraid of the truth. You shouldn't be afraid of the truth. The truth will set us all free. it's scarier to pretend it's not there.

Yeah, it's going to be tough. It's going to be really tough. We got some hard times ahead of us. There's no sugarcoating. Nobody should sugarcoat that. But it's what is the goal at the end? Is it for the elites to control everything? Or is it to give you power?

Because both of them are risky. Both of them could end in violent revolution. Both of them could fail. But I know which side I want. to win. I want the side that says, hey, these values are worth fighting for and trying to save. And it might be our World War II. It might be our Great Depression. It might be our civil war. But I'd rather take that on than pass it on to my children because I'd rather have my children have the opportunity sooner rather than later to be free. The system's been running on fumes. And when it

finally sputters out, we're going to feel the jolt one way or another. What's been happening this week is dedicated people who know what's going on that says, okay, I don't want the pain, but I'd rather take it on my shoulders now than pass it on to my kids. Because we might be able to save it now if we're honest about what we're facing. Let me carry the load. Let me wrestle with the mess that we've made so they don't have to. because a controlled fire is good. Forest fires are good too in the end long run,

but a controlled fire is good. It gets rid of all of the underbrush, and it actually replenishes the soil so something better can grow. And some controlled burns are going to happen. We have a chance here, a chance to rebuild, to rethink how we live. We cannot continue to rely on far-off enemies

We have to start looking closer to home, to our own soil, to our own hands, to our own people. We can make things again. Not the things that we made in the past. We're never going back to those days. Something new and even better is on the horizon. But we can grow things. We can stand on our own two feet. It's time to say you're 25 years old.

You're not a kid. Adolescence now. Adolescence now last till you're 25. In George Washington's time, you were an adult when you were 13. Are we getting better or weaker? This is not going to be easy. But what's at the end will either be completely bogus or real again. And somewhere inside of me, I know we're not done yet.

World has been through collapse before Empire's fall, systems crumble, but the ones who make it are the ones who dust themselves off. So I'm, for one, willing to take the hit. I'm willing to grit my teeth because I believe in what's on the other side. And I know you can say it's easy for you to say, Glenn, but I only succeed when you succeed. I get a paid to salary because you have the money to buy things that we advertise. So if you don't succeed, I don't succeed.

I lose everything too. I just want to encourage you to pray on this this weekend and find the strength to at least face the truth and turn the page because it's not just about survival. It's a new start. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Tomorrow is a counterterrorism expert,

investigative researcher, for the Capital Research Center, where he monitors extremist groups in the U.S. He is also an adjunct professor at Regent University. Ryan, welcome to the program. Glad to have you back. Thanks so much, Glenn. You bet. Man, I read your story today, and America faces pro Hamas intifada on its own soil.

It is terrifying, the facts. Do you want to take us through this? Sure. So over at Capital Research Center, where I work, we've done a series of studies, because we want to collect data to see just how anti-American the so-called pro-Palestinian movement. I say so-called because it's really not pro-Palestinian. Many of the groups don't even talk about that issue all that much. But we want to see the level of extremism within that movement, as I've talked about on your program before.

And so the latest study that we did, we want to see how it has changed from the 15 months before the October 7th attacks. and then also look at the 15 months after the October 7th attack and see if anything changed. And what we found was based on their online postings and the engagement and everything, is that the anti-Americanism, which always existed, has now basically taken it over. It has absolutely exploded to the point where calls for anti-American violence, particularly towards the police, has increased by about 3,000 percent. When you look at about 500 of the top, so-called pro-Palestinian activists and organizations, charities, and groups like that.

And the overall anti-American vitriol has increased by 186% since the October 7th attack. Okay, so tell me about these organizations, because you say they're not really even pro-Hamas anymore. They're anti-American. Have these just been shill organizations, kind of Marxist organizations from the beginning, or is this just a natural morphing from, you know, we got to get rid of baby Satan to get rid of the great Satan? So many of them were Marxists or anarchists to begin with. And you can tell if you really follow this up, but they weren't really forward about it. They have since become more forward about it.

Many of the groups are you kind of suspected with support terrorism are now open about it because they got a comfortable environment, an environment where it was rewarded, and so the mask was able to be dropped, and October 7th was kind of like that testing moment where to show to your own radical audience, whether you are eccentric or not, you had to say something. You can just be silent, coast along anymore. And so the result is that the mask dropped on a lot of these pro-Palestinian groups as to what they were really about. And then you have a lot of new groups form, some as nonprofits and some just as online groups that are unregistered as anything. And so the anti-Americanism that was always there is now a central focus, in some cases, more than the focus than it is on Israel even. So when you say they're really anti-American, your article talked about Fourth of July and how many of these anti-Israel groups, how they reacted to Fourth of July? As cynical as I am, I was even shocked by this.

So I looked at as many groups as I possibly could, within a limited time frame, how they reacted to the 4th of July holiday last year. And what I found was over 250 anti-Israel groups condemning the holiday, saying they refused to celebrate it, in most cases saying that America is an illegitimate, cellular colonial state using the same terminology that they use to delegitimize Israel, say it should be destroyed, some blatantly endorsing violence. I saw one that was ridiculing Martin Luther King for being nonviolent. And so you look at all of this, and you can really see the infrastructure, and we're talking about easily hundreds of registered nonprofits and thousands of unregistered groups.

Any of them getting money from our government? Yes, that has been seen in the past. particularly the groups that are linked to Muslim Brotherhood. Various organizations have done research into that. So that is certainly an issue. They get money from the big donors, the predictable names like the George Soros Network. And so you have these sort of mainstream, left-wing democratic money powerhouses that just are giving money out, whether they realize what the recipient tends to do with it or not.

It might just be that they say, oh, social justice, say, oh, well, then you're a good guy, and then they give them the money, or they might be complicit. I don't really know any just, but this is a business. Like, they condemn capitalism. These are jobs for people. Like, they get bonuses and raises as they fundraise more off of this. So tell me about the Students for Justice in Palestine. I'm trying to remember, because I know I have done in-depth stories on them, but they now are just all a blur.

who's students for justice in Palestine and who's funding them and what are they doing? So students for justice in Palestine is kind of the backbone of the protests against Israel and the United States that you've seen since the October 7th attacks. They have a presence on, they claim over 200 college campuses. So they're all over the place. They're the main focal point. Not much is known about their leadership and fundraising or anything like that because there's a particular arrangement. through complicit nonprofits that they have to make us that you can't see anything. I mean, there is no transparency.

We know that there's a link to American Muslims for Palestine, which is run by people who come from the Hamas network as groups were shut down. They then gravitated over to this group and formed American Muslims for Palestine. And Students for Justice in Palestine is like kind of part of that, even though we don't know too many details. We know that they're tied at the hip. And students for justice in Palestine did get some negative attention for their protests after the October 7th attacks, especially because they openly

supported them. They're one of the first groups to actually celebrate them. Many of these groups before the Israelis even retaliated in large measure for the attacks were already saying Israel is a genocidal state, stop them from retaliating, and these attacks were awesome. But what wasn't really noticed, because everyone was so shocked by them supporting the October 7th attacks, was that that same statement, also included a sentence where they said that they don't just support the groups that did it. They're part of them. They're part of Hamas. They're part of the popular front for the liberation of Palestine, which is like the communist counterpart to Hamas. And they called for violence to resist occupied places and then referred to the United States

as occupied Turtle Island. That's a call for violence on American soil. Explain Turner Island. So Turtle Island is this terminology that comes from a Native American myth that when the world was created, particularly north and central America. It was created on the back of a turtle during a global flood. And the Native American tribes referred to as Turtle Island collectively until the white man, the settlers showed up and then genocided them all. And so when these groups referred to the U.S. as Turtle Island, it's the same thing as saying, well, Israel, you shouldn't call Israel, you should call Palestine because of their mind there's an illegitimate country that everyone with moral fiber is obligated to fight and to destroy.

And truly, they're just at the beginning. And so it seems ridiculous. But it's not ridiculous. And it is working in many ways over in Israel. It's the erasing of the entire history of a country. It's legacy. It's everything about us. By taking and saying this is, let me give the quote,

liberating colonized land is a real process that requires confrontation by any means necessary. In essence, decolonization is a call to action, a commitment to the restoration of indigenous sovereignty. It calls upon us to engage in meaningful action that goes beyond symbolism and rhetoric. Resistance comes in all forms, armed struggle, general strikes, and popular demonstrations. All of it is legitimate, and all of it is necessary. Wow. It's unbelievable. And the people involved in us, those are your, the students involved with us, those are your future employer.

your future politicians, your future influencers. I mean, that's where everything is headed. And the trend lines are not good. I was looking at a poll from 2017, and obviously everything's gotten much more radical since then. And they pulled American adults and asked them about various things relate to extremism. And that poll in 2017 found that 8% of American adults supported Antifa. Another 8% said that they liked white nationalism. That's a total of about 16% in 2017.

Now, if you consider the fact that Trump won the election by about one and a half percent, what that means is that as these groups coalesce and form a voting block or even if they don't vote, they're just able to influence minds. They can determine who wins elections. And you better believe the political industrial complex and politicians are going to increasingly realize that and be tempted to pander to them. Is this why the Democratic Party seems to have just completely lost their mind and they're going with AOC and everybody else who's a massive radical? I think so. I mean, because this is the grassroots now. These are the activists, the people

that they may not represent the majority of the opinion, but they certainly form the majority of the online opinion makers. You see the numbers of support for Israel compared to support for the Palestinians, and the support for Israel is now at record lows on both sides. Is that a result of these organizations? I believe so. I think it's also a result of foreign governments that promote seditionist-type beliefs and behaviors. They want to achieve what one expert calls discourse collapse, where basically you fill the American news ecosystem with so much a BS that people just kind of like believe what they want or believe what appears in from their eyes most often. And I think that that's why you're seeing these crazy fringe beliefs becoming mainstream.

and I think if you put it all together, I would say that when we hear Death to America, we think it's crazy, but I would say Death to America is crazy as a belief system, but as a goal, it's actually achievable. And I hope people wake up and realize that. Ryan, as always, thank you.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. You're doing just, you know, God's work on this. I appreciate it. Thank you. Ryan Morrow. Thank you. You've had Capital Research Center, investigative researcher and counterterrorism expert.

It is truly something we need to be very, very aware of. We have won a four-year period here, but that can change on a dime, as we're seeing this week. You know, economy goes away and Donald Trump does not win. The Republicans don't win. And you go back to Crazy Town, USA, that surrounds themselves with these kinds of people. Do you want to live in a society that is built? on the backs of these kinds of people, the answer should be a resounding no,

but because we have such a bad media education system and everything else, and we're so polarized in politics that we can no longer see the truth, these people are going to, they are going to be the, though they will make Thomas Jefferson's prediction of if we don't fight the Muslims,

now he was saying this when he was president in the United States our first foreign war was with the Muslims over with the Barbary pirates and he stopped it and he said I want you to know they're never going to quit

they're never going to end they believe all of these things in their Koran and they have a right to enslave you to kill you to take over all lands they have a right to the entire earth and if we don't defeat them now, they're going to be our first foreign war

and maybe our last foreign war. I mean, look how prophetic that guy was in 18, what, 7? All right, back in just a second. 18-7? 18-07? Who says 18-7? You don't judge 18-07 anymore.

Are you really going that direction? Why? Why? Why? Why do I? Why? why, Lord, have I offended these so greatly that you've strapped me with this donkey? Let me just speak in his language. I thought you were going to ask would probably do the right term there.

Yeah, I was talking to God.