The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Salena Zito | 11/19/19
Episode Date: November 19, 2019“Fartgate” is here! Either Rep. Eric Swalwell or MSNBC’s Chris Matthews ripped a big one on live TV, and the people MUST know! This isn’t the first time gas has been passed on air at MSNBC, an...d we made a montage! Reporter and author of “The Great Revolt” Salena Zito provides an understanding of Kentucky’s elections, impeachment, and how Trump is faring against the populist uprising. "Santa Claus" calls in furious that Chick-fil-A has stopped donating to the Salvation Army, but did the restaurant actually cave to LGBT protesters, or is it all media spin? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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He was very upset today with Chick-fil-A.
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Well, I don't know.
I mean, we're just debating.
We have so many things to go on that we have to cover today.
We have Adam Schiff.
He's about to start asking questions.
We also have FartGate that is happening.
We need a fart investigation on this because I don't know if I buy the media spit on it.
You know, there's too much conflicting information on this.
Can we please play Eric Swalwell being interviewed by Chris Matthews yesterday?
This audio is real.
Taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help them cheat in election.
and the complaint that I've heard from a public
All right, let's hear it again. One more time.
Taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat in election.
And the complaint that I heard from...
I mean, his shoulders go up.
Yeah.
I mean, there's a physical reaction visually that you can...
Yeah, and he pauses.
Now, Chris Matthews says that's just a coffee cup coming across the table.
Let's listen to it with thinking about a coffee cup.
Could it be a coffee cup?
Taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help them cheat in election.
And the complaint.
that I've heard from a...
Could be, maybe?
I don't know.
It could be.
We should try to recreate.
I brought a coffee cup here.
Well, you've got to take the pens out of it.
You might need some liquid.
Do you have any liquid you can put in that thing?
This table's too smooth, I think.
Yeah, it is.
Well, what kind of...
I mean, they're getting no...
You're getting no friction at all on this table.
What kind of...
Play that again.
What kind of table does that have to be?
Taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukraine.
to help him cheat in election.
And the complaint that I heard...
You know, Chris Matthews is the one who said it.
I don't think that there would be a problem believing that Chris Matthews has bad gas problems.
Well, and there's an indication, I mean, this goes back historically to whoever smelt it dealt it.
Correct.
And so...
Correct. Now, is that hearsay?
Do you have firsthand knowledge of he who smelt it dealt it?
Or is this...
I mean, I...
I mean, here's say, don't get me wrong.
Hearsay is as good as any...
As good as gold.
As good as gold.
There was any firsthand I was there eyewitness kind of stuff.
Here's the thing.
To me, while it does sort of look like Swalwell Farts there,
I don't know if the audio fits it.
There's not, he's in an echoey room.
He's supposedly wearing a lapel mic,
which would not indicate, like it's too far away from his butt
for the air to be that clear.
Play it one more time.
Taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help him
cheap an election.
And I don't know.
It seems to me more like
Chris Matthews ripped one in the studio
and he's trying to hide it.
I don't know, but our investigation,
it'll go into tens of millions of dollars
and we'll spend about three years on Fartgate.
As we look into
what's in Swalwell's pants
and what did Chris Matthews know
and when did he know it?
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We have Selena Zito on the phone with us. She is a reporter and one of the best listeners,
I think, in the country. She actually is the one who called the last election really
spot on, spot on, and I think she's doing it again. Selina, welcome to the program.
Hey, thanks so much for having me on. Nice to talk to you, Glenn.
Good to talk to you. I know your book is, is it out in paper?
back yet? Yeah, it just came out in paperback this week with an update, an afterword that explains what happened in 2018,
why that matters, what it tells us, and what we should continue to look for for 2020.
Okay, so. Yeah. So I'm reading, I'm reading some of the stuff that you have written recently,
and yesterday you have the new phase of the Great Revolt. And as I'm,
As I'm reading it last night, I'm gathering that what people did in the congressional and state elections here recently.
We should not necessarily take that to mean anything for the presidential election.
And that's absolutely right.
Let's take the Kentucky governor's race for a moment.
If anybody understood Kentucky or ever went there in the national press, they wouldn't be.
writing, oh, it's all over because the Republican Kentucky governor lost. I spent a lot of time in
Kentucky. Matt Bevan was not very popular. The point of view of him by the people who live there
is that he was a carpetbagger. He didn't understand Kentucky culture. And he made a lot of
series of successive out-of-touch decision. Yeah, about his state. And,
And governor's races are about being connected to the people.
And he did not demonstrate that he was.
And if you look down ballot, Republicans not only won hugely in the Secretary of State race or the Attorney General race,
but also they gained seats in the Senate and in the House.
So I think that saying, oh, this means Republicans don't want Trump, no, it meant that Kentucky voters were unsatisfied with Matt Bevin.
All right. So we're watching the impeachment today. And I think it's just hardening people's positions.
There's nothing new here, as we're watching. There's no smoking gun. People who are against Donald Trump are so against him, they'll do.
anything to get him out.
For those who are
really even fence sitters on Donald
Trump, I think they look at
this and say, this is not
this doesn't even make sense
to me. And I think it
hardens people on
which way they were leaning.
It's absolutely correct.
And to tell you what it reminds me up.
Do you remember when Scott Walker
won the governor's race
in 2010?
And then there was a recaller.
election because, you know, the people who lost were unhappy.
Essentially, that's what it was.
And he came back and won that with higher percentage because people who didn't even vote for him
thought, you know what, this is bogus.
This is sore loserism.
And I'm going to vote for him because I think the behavior the Democrats is wrong.
And I'm finding a lot of that sentiment about.
among Trump skeptics who don't particularly care for his comportment, which, by the way, is probably
70% of Trump voters.
They don't care for his comportment.
They like the results.
They also understand that you need to be a mean SOB to sort of break up the swamp's behavior,
and the establishment behavior on both sides to make effective change.
tell you, Selena, I said this, I mean, we talked right after, I said this right at the beginning.
If you want to be effective and actually go against Donald Trump, you can't just throw everything at him.
They started from the beginning, and it drove, it drove people.
I mean, when I put the MAGA hat on, I don't know, about a year or two ago, mine was not a full-throated endorsement of Donald Trump, because I,
I like many of his policies, for instance, side note, Your Honor, just what he did with Israel just yesterday.
I like many of his policies, but he is so hard to defend because of the way he just is.
But you know what?
The way they're taking him on in Congress through the State Department and in the media,
God bless him.
Just keep going, Donald, just keep going.
It's a sentiment shared by people, and here's what really always gets under my skin, go ahead, is that the people in my profession don't understand that sentiment.
And you know why?
Because they live in the super zip codes of this country, and they don't know anyone who thinks or looks or acts the way that people do outside of those super zip codes.
They control the media.
They control entertainment.
they control sports, they control corporations.
And this populist coalition has been building for over 12 years.
Donald Trump did it and cause it.
He is the result of it.
And the important thing about the Great Revolt is this continues long after 2020.
This coalition is not going away for at least a generation.
What I would tell people to do is everyone in my profession says,
oh, it's all up to the suburbs. That's right. But not all suburbs are created equal.
Suburban voter in Erie County, Pennsylvania, or Kenosha, Wisconsin, or Baldwin, Michigan,
or McCone County, Michigan does not look, act or behave the same way a suburban voter in
Philadelphia or Northern Virginia behaved in votes. Those are the voters who are going to make a difference.
They have the exact same education that their cousins have in Northern Virginia and Philadelphia,
but they live among a variety of different viewpoints.
And they are connected and rooted to community where voters in Northern Virginia are very transient.
They aren't rooted to their community.
Community doesn't mean the same thing.
And voting for Donald Trump is about community and localism.
And I have to tell you, and I would love.
love to hear you respond to this, Selena. As I travel around, I just have this sense that there's a lot of
people that would have voted for another candidate that wasn't corrupt and wasn't a hardcore socialist
or even hanging around all the socialists. I think there's a lot of people who are Democrats,
who are blue collar, et cetera, et cetera, who may not like Donald Trump, but will vote.
for him because they feel like the Democratic Party has left the building and they have left
the insane socialists in charge.
Yes, that's absolutely true.
All you have to do is keep your eye on Western Pennsylvania throughout this whole process.
Most of the candidates on the Democratic side that are running said they believe in a ban on
fracking on day one.
Well, let me tell you, Western Pennsylvania, Eastern Ohio, also Texas, Colorado, Kansas,
North Dakota. These are areas that are thriving because of the shale industry. Lives and communities
are being changed because they are now prosperous again. And so to ban it is to take, how are you going
to sort of, it's a binary choice, right? I've got Trump who I like his policies, don't like his
personality. I got the Democrats. Oh, they want to take my job away on the day they're sworn in.
I think I'll go with the guy with a weird Twitter account because at least he has my back.
And a Democrat cannot win the White House without winning Pennsylvania.
A Republican can.
And a Democrat cannot win Pennsylvania without winning Western Pennsylvania.
So that's why you have to keep an eye on those areas because that's where those sentiments will be reflected anytime someone visits there.
And they will understand why Trump, if it was held tomorrow, he would win the election.
And that's hard for people who live out, you live in either the East Coast or the West Coast to understand because they don't know anybody else in the middle.
Remember this. This is in the Great Revolt, the 34% of Trump voters in 2016, which right now seems like the Ozzie and Harriet Hour era because it seems nicer than it was.
today.
34% of Trump voters do not tell a family member or friend that they were voting for him.
34%.
That was in 2016.
I mean, I can't even, my mind just can't even wrap around how people would, how they're
going to approach it now, given the intensity of the cancel culture.
You know, I mean, you say you're going to vote for Trump.
You have to worry about losing your job or affecting the people that work for you.
you or affecting your family or affecting your social status.
How is the impeachment affecting all of this?
You had it absolutely right.
If you love Trump and on Election Day 2016, you're still optimistic about the future.
But what about those swing people, the people that are, you know, they don't necessarily like that they are voting for a Republican, let alone Donald Trump.
What about those people who voted for him last time?
Has this made any impact on them?
None.
Zero.
I have a story coming out about that in the New York Coast on Sunday.
I went back to the people in the book,
people that were skeptical, people that are hard time,
you know, and people who supported him outright,
but had reservations, it's ground-held day.
Nothing has changed.
Their support for him has only gotten stronger.
Because they look at this and say,
you know, they've been trying to do impeach him since day,
They just finally found something they think can make stick.
But they're watching this intensely.
Like there's no they're there.
I mean, in their minds, they think this is not an impeachable offense.
This is something that someone does who is not part of the Washington system,
and this is how they behave.
This is how Trump always behave.
What about those Democrats who vote for Democrats,
but they are afraid of the socialist movement of the Democrat.
Will they just sit it out or will they vote for the socialist Democrat or a Democrat?
No, they won't vote for the socialist Democrat.
They'll either sit it out or they'll hold their nose and vote for Trump.
That's why I keep my eye on Minnesota as well.
That's a state.
He only lost by 45,000 votes.
and I just spent some time there, and you see the swing towards him in that state.
And that broadens his coalition.
That doesn't add to shrinking his coalition.
So I've heard talk from some people that they believe that this could be a Reagan-Mondale election.
I don't think it would be that strong, but do you think there is a chance that it's a, it's not anything like we're expecting?
If the Democrats go too crazy on this impeachment, which have already shown that they have no problem doing, and they pick someone very far left, such as Elizabeth Warren or Pete Buttigieg, then, yeah, you would see a win side election, absolutely.
All right.
With no doubt in my mind.
Selena, thank you so much.
The name of the book is The Great Revolt.
I'm anxious to see your next article and get the update to your book.
Selena is the one who really listened to people
and was the one who finally really just listening to her
explained it to me and I was like, oh my gosh, I get it.
It's called The Great Revolt by her and Brad Todd
who also is instrumental in putting this together.
It's out in paperback now.
Selena, thank you so much.
Thanks so much for having me.
You bet. God bless.
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We're talking about the impeachment.
There's a lot of things going on today.
I want to talk to you a little bit about what happened yesterday with Israel.
And also Chick-fil-A, which they came out.
out and they said they were giving up their charity.
A contract ran out with the charity known as the Salvation Army.
And the press is spinning this as, you know, they're just going after the gay chicken money.
But we, is this right?
We have Santa on the phone.
Hello, Santa.
A Merry Christmas, Glenn.
Yeah, Merry, Merry Christmas.
Have you been a good boy or girl?
I've been a boy my whole life there, Santa.
That's how I have to.
basket now.
I mean,
a good boy or girl.
Right,
okay.
I mean,
come on,
Chick-fil-A.
I mean,
I've been,
you're taking money
from the Salvation
freaking army.
Well,
it's,
I'm not.
Here I am sitting at like
1,200 Walmarts
at the same time,
raising money,
and I got to deal with this crap.
Right,
right.
I'm Santa.
I love the gays.
Look at my suit.
Super frilly.
So Santa loves the gays.
I put bell.
on everything.
Hello.
I mean, I gotta say
a lot of the streets
around here
were not for the tinsel.
They said it was over the top.
I pushed for it.
Right, okay.
All right.
When a guy to request
from some kid named Stan
that wants a Barbie,
I don't bring a do-it-yourself
gay conversion therapy kid instead.
That's not what I'm doing here.
Right, right.
So maybe the Salvation Army
is something that...
I'm trying to feed people here,
homeless people.
Right.
Put you up your toddler.
Right.
And might I remind you,
I'm a guy who is inside your home.
Right.
While you're asleep.
Right.
Okay.
I have access to your fireplace.
Right.
I know when you are sleeping,
stop screwing with me.
All right.
Thank you very much.
That's an official response from Santa about Chick-fil-A,
distancing themselves from the Salvation Army.
which I am not sure that's anything other than spin on what actually happened from Chick-fil-A.
We're waiting for a comment from Chick-fil-A.
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Hang on just a second.
We have some breaking news.
Can we...
Are we going to stop for the breaking news?
We do.
Okay.
We have an update on FART investigation, 2019.
Oh, fart?
Fart. Fart investigation?
Fart Fart investigation.
Yes, Fartgate, being investigated.
Fartgate, which is...
Eric Swalwell, farting on national television, or did he?
Right.
Well, this is the big controversy.
I will tell you, it took a lot to restrain myself,
but I did restrain myself on Twitter yesterday
because I thought there's no way that fart is...
Somebody just added that fart on...
of that and I wasn't going to be a part of that. But now
I find out, and this is real, I come in the morning and
yes, that sound was not added
later. This is the original clip with Eric
Swalwell and Chris Matthews.
You'll hear Eric talking and then
somebody just rips one in the middle
of the statement and you see
a physical reaction by
Swalwell, but is that
misleading people
from the real facts behind the story?
Here's the evidence.
It's uncontradicted that the
president used taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat an election dollars to
ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat in election looks like it pushes it out with the e like it's
cheat yeah i mean he just through the election and that was what pushes it out it does look like it
it does look like it does look like it now looks can be deceiving yes now chris matthews
i was going to present this the way that the alternate theory is is developing chris matthews he's
back in studio. He knows it's not Eric Swalwell. Eric Swalwell is taking on the heat for it.
So what does he do? Swalwell is going to call him out and said, you're the guy that farted Matthews.
You're the guy who farted on television. And Matthews has to come out and release a statement saying,
no, it wasn't Swalwell or Swalwell will come out with the truth. So what he does is he said,
oh, it was a mug. We've already tried to simulate the mug. Do you want to give us another quick
mug simulation? Yeah, let me just give you the simulation. Here's the mug on my desk.
It does not sound like a fart. Does not sound like a fart. It does not sound like a fart. We know that.
Well, investigations are going on and information is coming out.
And there have maybe been some other situations where Chris Matthews has farted on the air during interviews.
Don't believe it.
That would be the normal stance and it would be one I would understand.
Right, okay.
Okay.
But let me just present the evidence.
All right.
Here is clip number one.
And said that when he pleaded guilty to these charges in the Southern District of New York.
But what's different today is that.
Now, you heard that.
That sounded very similar to the.
cup across the desk.
It did sound a lot like the cup across the desk.
What is this desk made out of?
I don't understand.
Part sounding material of some sort.
Not a thing.
Right. Okay.
Okay.
Next clip, another clip of Chris Matthews doing an interview.
Listen.
Wow, what a critique.
And with me now is Scott Arsino.
He's the executive director of the Florida Democratic Party.
And Bob Schrum is a Democratic strategy.
He's been through a lot of these races.
Scott, just give me the skinny here.
Can we get a clean, fair, honest?
Now, if these
been added, because it sounds like they've been added.
I don't know.
We are told this is a real investigation.
I don't, I don't know your source
of who is collecting fart sounds from
Chris Matthew.
Many sources around the internet, actually.
Okay, so there's another one.
Here's another one.
You're taking the President of the United States down into it.
So that really depends on how it's ultimately structured.
If they were able to make some sort of a...
I mean, you're...
I'm hearing.
I'm hearing them too, and I will tell you, he is at that point to where he's an old man.
He's very old, Glenn.
Yeah.
And sometimes when you hit that age that starts with a one and then has a two after it and then there's like a three or four after that, things are hard to control.
Right.
I mean, like it's not Chris's fault per se.
I mean, when I get into that situation, I'm going to be saying to, you know, Doris Curran's Goodwin, pull my finger.
Right.
I mean, you just go for it.
I'll just go for it.
I'll just go for it.
But Chris is, I think.
So what you're saying here in this fart investigation is that don't be so hasty.
It's probably not Swalwell.
Yeah.
And so people are blaming Swalwell.
And look, he's had a rough year.
You know, there's an argument to be made that the fart in question lasted longer than his campaign.
Right.
And that's not good.
And smelled about the same.
Maybe.
Maybe better.
However, as much of the first of the first of the first of the first of the first of the first of the first.
is I think Swalwell is a funny target
of this. Number one,
I want the truth.
That's what we're about. That's what we're about.
Right. Okay, that's number one.
Number two, I feel like Chris Matthews might be
a better target. No one knows who Eric Swalwell is.
No one cares. Eric Swalwell kind of came and when
and no one's going to ever hear from the guy again.
Chris Matthews is
a guy I kind of want to believe farts on the air.
I want it to be true.
And therefore it should be true.
I mean, is this a
I had to work in an atmosphere with an old man that was farting all the time
because I think there's a lesser Me Too movement that could be had.
Me number two movement?
Yeah.
I mean, no, he didn't touch me or grope me or anything like that.
Right.
But he farted around me all the time.
Especially during interviews.
This is why you notice none of these interviews are guests in studio.
They've all booked it to be outside.
You know, tomorrow we might do a, we might do an.
expose on this and we ask you tomorrow to just wear a green, brownish-green-ish ribbon
on your lapel tomorrow.
In support.
Did you hear that?
Yeah, no, I play it one more time.
This is not a borderline issue.
That's a montage of all three clips.
Okay, I am actually paying people to make fart montages.
I am re-evaluating.
A fartage?
A fartage.
Thank you.
Thank you, Stu.
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