The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Sean Reyes | 2/1/23

Episode Date: February 1, 2023

Glenn and Stu look at the possible GOP candidates for 2024. Chief Writer & Researcher Jason Buttrill discusses the FBI's raid on President Biden's house as he and Glenn ponder: Is the DOJ going after Biden because they have no other choice, or is this all part of a plan? Utah Attorney General Sean Reyes joins to discuss his 25-state lawsuit against the Biden Administration for allowing ESG standards to factor into retirement accounts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Villaray, the voice we love that we love. Oh, my gosh, Stu. Was that fun or what? Oh, it was quite the adventure, Glenn. I'm glad you were able to join us there. Yeah. Don't you feel like we're living in some ways,

like in 1970 at times here in Texas? It's just the whole society. shuts down. Shut down. There's a little ice on the ground. We have ice on the ground. And I mean, it's bad. It's about, you know, half an inch or a quarter inch thick everywhere.

And we're supposed to have another ice storm. But we don't have salt. We don't have sand. We don't have anything. And so the entire city shuts down. And it happens like once a year. And it's just bizarre. It is so weird.

You know, we're used to everything. Well, let's just take care of that. We don't have any of that stuff here. But today's broadcast was interesting, to say the least. We talked a lot about Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis and the election that is coming our way. We also talk to Sean Reyes about something that is really pressing. Two things. One, you are now 118 days away from being a felon if you have a pistol with a pistol brace.

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We have seen it with Donald Trump. But let's talk about COVID now. Yeah, it seems like one of the approaches right now. Yes, from Trump is. Oh, I can't hear Stu. This is wonderful. Okay. Of course.

Well, thank you. I'll take it here for a second as we solve these technical issues. We appreciate everybody hanging out and, and we need. A little understanding here with what we're trying to accomplish here. And what's interesting about what Trump is doing is he, I think, sees appropriately a potential weak point for his run in the COVID response stuff. You know, people remember going back to March and April of 2020, you know, when you heard the phrase, two weeks to stop the spread, the person standing on the stage was Donald Trump.

And I think everybody has some sort of remembrance of that. And I think you're going to see candidates in the field try to go to Trump's right, if you will, and say Donald Trump was the guy who had Anthony Fauci standing by his side, who had Dr. Burke standing by his side, who told us two weeks to stop the spread, who then told us after those two weeks were over, another month to stop the spread. obviously there's a lot of criticism over the vaccines among the Republican base. And Trump has kind of held the line there and said, look, these things were great and they saved a bunch of lives. Does the base agree with that?

And again, it matters what the base agrees with because they're the ones who are going to make these decisions. So how do you handle that if you're Donald Trump? You can kind of see the first steps in his approach as he was talking on the plane. in the other day where he said, look, you know, a lot of these governors are out there bragging about their COVID responses, you know, Florida shut down. Florida shut. Do people forget this? Florida shut down? I think what he said was a lot longer than some of the others. And, you know, in sort of normal Trump fashion, there's some truth to that. It's probably exaggerated. I mean, I think you look at the DeSantis response to COVID and most people on the conservative side of the

spectrum look at it as a good response. They, you know, so, you know, so. So, you. Here's the problem that I have with Donald Trump is, you know, he is the guy who suspended. However, however, in his favor, I give everyone a pass, well, except for Fauci because of what he knew was going on according to documents. I give almost everybody a pass that everybody was trying to do the right thing. everybody was, you know, 10 days to slow the spread. I give you a pass on. However, it should have not been mandatory. It should have been, we believe, 10 days to stop the spread is advisable.

Shouldn't have been a mandatory thing. That comes from the World Economic Forum. That comes from the Treasury Department and event, what was it, 201 or 203. the strategy planning done by the WEF and the Bill Gates Foundation and all of that. They had this plan. They walked it into the president. Never been done before. Shouldn't have been done.

If you are a constitutionalist, you would have said no. Donald Trump is not necessarily a constitutionalist, although he's better than most, it seems, at times. I wonder if DeSantis would have done it because he did close down the state. But again, in the beginning, I give everybody forgiveness, DeSantis and Trump alike. But there comes a point to where you got to say, okay, this was really bad. We shouldn't ever do that again. And I haven't heard that from Donald Trump.

Have you? I think we've heard a little bit of that. We've heard bits and pieces of that, though I still think he's out of step with a base on some of it. What's fascinating is really the argument for DeSantis and his response is very similar to the argument to Donald Trump and his success. Right. Like if you like Trump's response, what you would say is he turned on these restrictions relatively quickly. Now, he turned slower than DeSantis did. Remember, Donald Trump was out there criticizing Brian Kemp, who was really, the first one, at least in that area, to turn around on those restrictions. You know, I think you could look at people like Christyne-Oam in South Dakota. Iowa was another state that never closed down. But, you know,

again, when you look at the spectrum of responses, both Trump and DeSantis would be, I think, on the right side of that for most conservatives. So, like, they're trying to needle, I mean, DeSantis has not participated in this criticism yet, but like they will eventually be needling each other. on this response. And really, you know, it's, it is, I think there are definitely parts to criticize of Trump's response.

DeSantis's response, I think was more standard for Republicans. And both of them stood up pretty strongly, eventually and got to that point where they said, look, this is wrong and we should not be doing this. The question with Trump is one of his weak points is going to be, he went through his entire administration with Anthony Fauci there. And, you know,

everyone looks at Fauci as the center point of this. And over and over and over again, every one of his competitors in this primary are going to show pictures of Donald Trump sitting there praising Anthony Fauci, standing next to him, Fauci praising Trump. All that stuff really happened.

That wasn't a dream, even though it seems like it at this point. I don't think that's going to matter to people who would vote for Trump. If Trump stands up at some point, I want to hear both of them say this. Look, we did the best we could. We took the advice we could.

we were in an emergency situation. We didn't know then what we know now. However, the most important thing we learned is you cannot do these style things. It should never happen again, and we should be passing laws to make sure it never happens again. We all gave everyone the benefit of the douch, Fauci, and we gave the benefit of the doubt to our pharmaceutical companies, everybody stepped up. We didn't know at the time, and I'd like to hear Rick and, or sorry, Ron and Donald Trump say this, that we didn't know at the time that there were deals with the government

and the pharmaceutical companies. We didn't know at the time that gain of function research was going on and is still going on. So I want to have a frank and open, honest discussion and really hearing on everything that happened, but the first step is we are to never, ever, the federal government closed down businesses and close everything down from the federal level. People were already isolating before we did it. We're not going to do that ever again, and we are going to make sure that it never happened. again through legislation.

That's what I'm not here. Yes, I think we need to do that. And through the courts as well. We need to get all these things on record and lockdown through the court system to make sure this doesn't happen again. Glenn, let me, can I ask you a couple of non-binding prediction questions for the future? I'm not going to hold you to these. Okay. I'm not going to hold you these.

I'm not going to say you're an idiot for getting these wrong. I just want your vibes at this very moment. Okay. Okay. So we know we have DeSantis and Trump in this back. and forth here at the top of the primary. Likely, there will be a third person who at least has a run at some point. Someone who gets, I don't know, into double digits in a few polls, maybe put some pressure

on one of the two candidates, maybe passes one of the two candidates and has an outside chance of winning. Let me give you some names of people who are being thrown around right now. Tell me who you think your number three is in this race right now. You've got John Bolton, Mike Pompeo. No. Mike Pence. No.

Nicky Haley. No. Ted Cruz. No. Christy Noam. Maybe, but I lean towards no. Okay. Rick Scott from Florida.

Maybe, but I lean towards no. Tim Scott, South Carolina. Um, that's the first one that I think is like, yeah, probably it could be. Yeah. Maybe. Okay. Glenn Yonkin from Virginia.

No. I hope to God not. Right? You're that down on Yonkin already? No, I mean, I just, I want to see governors that are leading like Ron DeSantis is. I want to see governors understand and verbalize the country is on fire. And we are building a barricade around our state. It's why I'm sorry, but I don't give Texas.

I give Texas a hard time, and I think they deserve it. They are acting like it's business as usual, maybe a little dicey. This isn't a rainstorm. This is a Category 7 hurricane. What are we doing? I want to see governors who have actually taken hard stands and are continually moving the ball forward, not playing where at least we're not them

and certainly not playing defense. I want somebody on the offense. And you mentioned Texas and Greg Abbott's another one to throw in there. I assume you would say no on him. No. Larry Hogan, Liz Cheney from the left has been rumored as well. No. So really no one there that you think

there's no one obvious. All these people are very low in the polls. Tim Scott is the one you maybe said had potential as a as a yeah i think there's um i i you know i i think predicting any of this stuff at this point is it's crazy uh is crazy why it's non-binding that's that's why i non-binded you yeah well because it's this is this literally all of this stuff could change overnight we we could you know we could be without power in 24 we could also be the king of the world with some new bitcoin in 2020 we have no idea what is coming. This is the most unstable the world has been in my lifetime. I cannot think of another time that is more unstable than it is right now. So let's let's all pretend we're

alcoholics and take it one day at a time. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Jason Batrill, who has a update for us. Jason. Um, um, Give me the update on what is happening now with Joe Biden and the FBI. Hello, Glenn. Well, I'm sure everyone's seeing this all over Twitter, and there's like aerial cams from helicopters going over President Biden's house right now, and they're live streaming, the FBI raiding his house, looking for these classified documents.

Did everyone see that? No. They're not treating it the same way that they did. And this is amazing. They've been in their house, sources told CNB, I think were the first to report this. It was a very small story. I didn't hardly see anyone reporting on it.

But they've been there. The FBI just recently took a look at his DC think tank office. That took them around 12 hours. So I'm assuming they're going to be there probably all day. This is really unprecedented. Stu mentioned this earlier, what they're opening this up, the precedent that it opens up here.

And the reason why is because you're looking at a a weaponized Department of Justice and FBI. And I think when you look at this on a timeline, I think this is covering up is one of the biggest election interferences in American history. Can I explain that, Glenn? Yes. Can you? I can. So when we first heard about this, when the timeline started materializing,

the Biden's lawyers found classified docs at the D.C. think tank office on November 2nd. Um, why did we not hear anything then? Because that was in the, in the very middle of the hooplaught surrounding Trump and the raid of Marlago. Why didn't we hear about this update? Well, just six days later were the midterms. They couldn't let it go because what we all know was that the raid of Mara Lago was a big political stunt. That's all it was. They were losing hardcore in the polls. They knew that they were about to take a big defeat in the midterms. They needed a whammy. And that whammy was the raid on Donald Trump's house. That's what it was. We all knew what it was. Now we're seeing it materialized. that's exactly what was going on. Well, one day later, the DOJ, on November 9th, the DOJ and the FBI decided, you know what? I think we should look at these classified documents found his home. I think maybe it could have been a violation of federal law. We're going to look into it.

Oh, really? A day after the midterms, now you're going to decide. But because of the slow drip process, we didn't even hear about that. We only just not heard about that just a few weeks ago. And now that the FBI is now moving on some of these places, we're starting to see that the FBI is completely, boxed in. They've been caught.

They were outed in this scheme to work with the Democrats, to tank Republicans, to tank Donald Trump. And now they're like, okay, well, crud, we have to move. We have to do a raid. We have to get involved and show that, hey, at least we're taking it seriously. Will they eventually in the end?

Highly doubt it, because this has been a sham since the beginning. All right, so here's the, here's a couple of questions. First, you didn't touch on what CBS News has just reported that the FBI conducted another undisclosed search of the Penn Biden Center back in November. I think that you might have just mentioned that in passing here,

they knew that these were in existence. They knew this was a problem, but they go and they raid it, and the White House hasn't ever talked about it. The White House is telling America that they're very, very transparent. They're cooperating 100%. who is shutting down the information? Who is there a single journalist that would like to win?

Well, you're not going to win a Pulitzer because you have to lie to win one of those. Is there anybody that cares enough about the truth, no matter where it falls, that they're going to tell the truth? No, we just found out about that, Ray, that you just mentioned this week. We found about it this week. It happened way back then. I mean, you remember when all of this, it was almost kind of like a drip process when they went to move on Trump. Remember how investigative these journalists were being? They were looking at torn up notes and toilet bowls.

That's like they were at all exclusive. We found these torn up notes. Look how careless he is. Then we start finding out about these classified dogs at Marlago. That's the links they were willing to go. All of this stuff, like you have lawyers involved within the Biden administration. You have the DOJ involved, the FBI involved, going back. months and not a single journalist knew a thing about it. All right. So of course that's not true. So,

Jason, tell me, what do you think is happening? Why would the FBI be raiding his house yet again? Why would they be doing this today? Well, I seriously think that. I mean, this could point toward, because we know that it was a two-pronged reason for rating Mar-Lago and Donald Trump. One, uh it was a heck of a it was a it was a heck of a pre-optober surprise for the midterm election that's one i think that was one of the biggest things the second they actually wanted to prosecute him they did not want him to to run for president again the next election that that was a big thing now i don't think that any one on the left wants joe biden to run again in 2024 i do not think they want him he's vulnerable now but so is trump i i think right now they're kind of like gambling

well, yes, we open them both up to prosecution. They'll both be vulnerable. But do we care? No, I don't think they care. I think now they're kind of like cutting their losses and they're looking towards who actually they can find it's electable. I don't think they have too many people that are electable. But I think that they see the vulnerability of Joe Biden.

That's a bonus for them. And they're going to continue with the vulnerability of Donald Trump. They're going to make an example. This is Banana Republic. This is Banana Republic stuff. You don't go in and raid a third. sitting president's home. You don't do it. We've never, ever done anything like this. We've never did it with Donald Trump. Now they're going and raiding a sitting president's home. That's fine if we had

a justice department that we trusted, but we don't. We know they're not after real justice. So that leads you to what is it that they're after. This becomes extraordinary. dangerous for a republic. If your justice department is corrupt and the deep state is in charge, and they can just take any president and go into their house and raid it and charge him on things that Hillary Clinton didn't go to jail for, nobody went. I can't believe I'm actually kind of defending Joe Biden here because I'm defending the process. You should have done this from the beginning. Now they're using this as a political tool, I fear, because the biggest tool is Hunter Biden. And the things that are coming out about Hunter Biden are really, really damaging.

It looks, what was it yesterday, Jason? We had the story about Hunter's, Hunter setting up the biotech labs, the bioweapons labs in Ukraine. He was the guy who helped. helped start that and helped fund that. What's that all about? I think the further we start seeing that, the Ukraine stuff, the business dealings with Hunter Biden, the rest of his family, and why they were so hyper-focused on Ukraine

and why now they are so hyper-focused on making sure that, you know, everything is secure there. You know, they got to make sure that, you know, all of those skeletons are completely buried. I don't even think that we're, I thought we probably haven't even scratched the surface. I mean, we've covered Burisma in detail.

Now we're getting hints of this. Those are the things we know. What do we not know that they had their fingers in? I mean, this is getting absolutely insane. You know, the thing that bothers me so much is the amount of money that has gone over there. Because we know most of it has not gone to the front lines. We've had people on the front lines who would verify this. We're not seeing an influx of things.

Where are all those things going? You're seeing 10 politicians had to step down because they were taking the aid and funneling it towards their families, et cetera, et cetera. Ten politicians. We're not monitoring anything. And I think this is a huge payoff. Did you see that it was, what was it, $2.5 billion they say was given out during the PPP program that shouldn't have been given out, all went to corruption. $2.5 billion. Do you know politically what could be done with a billion dollars?

Ten billion dollars? If this money is being funneled nefarious places, which is the only way dirty money ever goes, it's not like it goes to the church. This money is being funneled somewhere, where, who is using that money for what kind of a global campaign? where's that money's influence being felt we need to know this uh jason um are is it your uh is it your belief at this point that the government is going to move on joe biden more than this well i i kind of

do because i i don't think that i don't really see an out for the doj and sby on this i i really don't I mean, they've already, you know, the grenade they dropped with Trump. And now all the revelations that are coming out about Biden, I just don't see how they can. I mean, they're going to try and minimize and, you know, make it seem more benign what Biden did. I saw that in some of the early reporting on the raid or the FBI search today, they were trying to say that, you know, well, Joe Biden is in full cooperation with the FBI, you know, more than happy to. let the FBI search his home today. There's no difference between that and what Donald Trump did.

He was in cooperation with the FBI. He allowed them access. They went and looked. They searched through the file folders, looked at everything, and said, hey, Mr. President, you should probably put a padlock on that door. Okay, so he did it. What is the difference? Really, what is the difference? There is no difference, but you can already see them, you know,

they're calling their shot right now that they're going to try and make this look more benign. they'll probably end up saying that, okay, we find no criminality here for some weird magic trick. We find criminality with Donald Trump. But in the end, they're both vulnerable with the ultimate goal. So do you think that there's a chance that this is, because that's what I'm hearing from people, the left is done with the Bidens. And so now this is all coming from the deep state and they're just going to destroy him. and his family.

Yeah, and Glenn, just a real quick point on just how deep this deep state is right now and how much they are outing themselves. I mean, just look at the DOJ and the FBI. Look at what they did to the pro-life activists, you know, the hook was just exonerated. But can you believe that? The DOJ actually, they knew they did not have a case, Clint. They knew they did not have a case. They knew how flimsy it was.

He wasn't even blocking that entrance. This other activist went towards a hook. basically ran him down the street. And then he had, as per in the court, the Planned Parenthood CEO admitted that this guy had those issues before. He had been confronting people out on the street, which they're told not to do before. So the DOJ knew they didn't have a case. But what did they do? They still went because it was retaliation.

Their flagship banner issue, Roby Wade had gotten overturned. So they wanted to deliver a gut punch. Had nothing to do with justice, but they are weaponized. I mean, this on top of what's going on with Biden and Trump right now, there's a deep state right there. They are fully weaponized and they're coming after you. Yeah, and that's what disturbs me. Yesterday, we had a guy who filed a lawsuit here in Texas against the ATF on the, what do you call them, the stocks, the collapsible stocks, but it's a, what are they called? The pistols that can turn into rifles magically with the stabilizing stock.

And the ATF said that those are absolutely legal. They've been legal for years, blah, blah, blah. Now, through a stroke of a pen, not Congress or anything else, they decide that that's a felony to own one of those. Case you miss yesterday's podcast, we talked to the guy who is filing suit because yesterday was the day that it actually, became in the federal registry, which means it's now officially on the book. So the clock started running yesterday. You have 120 days before you're a felon. They may not get away with

this, but what they're doing, when you say weaponizing, there's two things that people have to understand. How a national socialist kind of takeover usually happens is they may make so many things through regulation illegal that almost everybody's in violation of something. And then they apply pressure selectively to who they want to apply pressure. So if you have one of those guns and you haven't filed in 120 days because you're waiting for the court to speak on it, what's going to happen to you? They will arrest you. Even if they know nothing's going to happen, they want to make people's lives miserable through the same. system. That way, they can control you, even if it doesn't end up that you have to be held in

jail. The whole process is the real punishment. You're listening to the best of the Glendbeck program. That I think should be the one to save America from the peril that is Mitt Romney and primary him in Utah is Sean Reyes. He is the Utah Attorney General, a good friend and a very good man. Welcome to the program. Sean, how are you, sir? I'm doing so well, Glenn. How are you doing?

Good. You know, we don't deal with snow in Texas like you do in Utah. So my apologies for the cancellation earlier, and we are just a city, at least, Dallas is like, it's worse than it was with COVID. Nobody can move because of the ice on the streets. But so thank you for your patience. Sean, of course. There was something that the Biden administration announced in November, and this is so insidious.

And Joe Biden said that he wanted regulation now to be able to force everybody's retirement fund into ESG-style funds. that could dramatically impact the retirement accounts of millions of Americans. You have put together 25 states, the attorney generals, and you have filed a lawsuit against the Biden administration and trying to get that repealed. Tell me about it. Yeah. Glenn, we've filed Utah versus Walsh.

with 24 other states, just like you said, because the Biden administration is trying to implement a rule that is immoral, it is irresponsible, and it is totally illegal. And the reason it's illegal is that ERISA, which is the federal law that requires investment managers of private benefit plans, like 401 case that you have, that I have, to pick investments, based solely on financial reasons to benefit the plan and maximize value for beneficiaries. That's their fiduciary duty. We call it the exclusive purpose test. And this new Biden role, which, by the way, as you said, they tried to sneaky, really sinister

past this rule and hope that no one would notice. Kind of like they did the last time we had to sue the Department of Labor, OSHA vaccine mandates. you remember that. We took that to the Supreme Court in one, and we'll do the same here if we need to, because this is yet another existential threat from ESG. So this new Biden rule allows asset managers for these plans to abandon their fiduciary duty and become instead woke investment activists for ESG. Glenn, this rule puts at risk over $12 trillion, $12 trillion of private,

retirement funds for 152 million hardworking Americans. The whole civilian workforce in America, Glenn, is 165 million at last count. So it just shows you the scale of the impact that this rule would have. And again, it weaponizes and politicizes the role of asset managers at a time when 401Ks are already taking major hits due to the economic downturns and high inflation. from this administration. It is insane, so, Sean, this doesn't mandate

that they have to buy ESGs. It just allows them to put aside their fiduciary responsibility, which is insane, insane. You're right. It doesn't mandate, and it's funny that you say it that way, because that was the defense

that the DOL administration put forward, for why this is still acceptable. We're not mandating illegal conduct. We're only allowing the illegal conduct. It's perverse the way that they put it forward. Oh, okay. Well, as long as it's not mandated, it's okay.

But we've seen the reality is, and you've talked about this on your show a lot, and thank you. God bless you from being such a voice of reason, a loud voice and pushing back on this ESG insanity because ESG funds are largely underperforming. And they're getting a zero. They should be looking at, by the way,

technologies that are actually profitable and don't cause more environmental impact. You have one right now in your state and mine. It's a Utah-based company. I'm going to throw it out. You can have them on the show another time, but Omnis Energy is about to make a huge announcement in Texas about really clean energy that'll give U.S. the energy dominance it deserves.

And many of Texas's most prominent business leaders are committed to this technology. So I'm teasing it a little bit. Oh, I think I know what this is. When do they announce that? It's coming. It's coming within days or weeks. And you know some of the principles. Oh, this is really, this is going to be an exciting announcement.

This is going to be really good. we'll let you in on that on the show. I've known about this for a couple of months and been waiting and waiting and waiting and I'm excited to hear that it's actually... I don't want to take their thunder and... I know. But you know what, there are other technical reasons and I just want to throw this out to any of the lawyers

out there who are questioning, okay, what is the basis and why is it illegal in addition to it violating the fiduciary responsibilities. There are other factors. It violates the major questions doctrine because it has vast economic impact, and the DOL actually doesn't have the authority to do this.

It's arbitrary and capricious. And it also, another thing that we didn't really talk about a lot, is that it allows proxy voting, again, in a way that prevents them from, or requires them from from living up to their fiduciary responsibility. So there's a proxy element here, too, which is another aspect of ESG that is pernicious.

And again, they're so brazen. This audacity of woke is unbelievable, right? Sean, I will tell you, we have been fighting ESG with ESG legislation through wall builders. And David Barton, and you know I've been up different states talking about it and they have really mounted an effort in, I think about 30 states are considering legislation. I have been working with another organization for the last, I mean, we've been working with them for at least eight months, but we found out some things that

that they were doing to undermine the protection for the people. And just a quick side note, I'm going to be making an announcement about that very well-known foundation and what they've been doing. We've tried to give them several months to clarify and rectify the problem they haven't. And tomorrow's program, I'm going to be telling you something quite shocking and very, very disappointing on a foundation that is, has a long legacy and heritage that you're going to be disappointed in. Anyway, so let me ask you, let me ask you on the ESG front, is anyone that you know protecting? Because this is the problem with this. This hurts everybody, including the little guy.

This is not just the energy sector. This is everybody, especially the little guy is going to get hurt on this. are you seeing any real forward momentum at all on protecting the little guy in the S and the G? Or are people still just worried about the E? No, absolutely. And we've pushed back on some of the S and the G. And let me talk about that. Before I do, thank you for your partnership with David.

He is doing, and he's a warrior out there. And the work that you all are doing, you deserve credit with the legislatures. is important and Congress has a role to play and they're trying to push back through a resolution. But the AGs, speaking of Warriors, and you have an incredible one there in Texas, my colleague Ken Paxton, he is co-filing them with me. So Texas, Louisiana, Jeff Landry, and the Commonwealth of Virginia, Jason Mears, and all these other AGs, they're the ones you call us off in the last line of defense and we are pushing back for the little guy, not just on the E, but on the S and the G, there was not too long ago an insurance issue that came up,

which they were trying to pass a law that would require the insurance company to violate numerous state laws in the guise of being more diverse, right? And it actually would require the insurance company, this rule, to consider race in terms of assessing risk and issuing insurance, which blatantly on its face violates a number of state law. So we pushed back on that. So people think that the ESG is only the E. There's definitely the S and the G part of it,

and we'll continue as AGs to push back on all of that because as you said so eloquently, it hurts the little guy. It hurts everyone. And I want to be clear, Glenn, we're not saying you can't invest your money, your own money. Yeah. Go for it. And social warrior and activist.

We're saying when you have a fiduciary duty to invest other people's money, you can't do that. Right, right. Can you help me on one thing unrelated to this? Sean, the rule went in two days ago now for the pistol braces. And the ATF says, if you have a gun with pistol braces, you have to apply for a tax stamp. And, you know, that's a year-long process, if you're lucky. but you are going to be a felon within 120 days, even if you're in the process of the tax stamp.

And so they're saying, turn your gun in. Well, I know a lot of people that have these guns, they were perfectly legal until they just decided to, you know, just change the regulation on their own. What should somebody do? I know there's a lawsuit that was just filed yesterday here in Texas, but should we wait for this to play out in the court? What should you do?

Are we going to be felons if you have those guns? Another assault on our Second Amendment rights. And, you know, I was just at Shot Show recently in Las Vegas, and we were talking about this, you know, many good American companies and even foreign companies that support the Second Amendment. Here is, I think, a practical solution, Glenn. If I were you in any state where you have a good attorney general who understands the Constitution,

I would reach out to their office and ask for advice and also see if they are joining us in being able to push back against these rules and encourage them to do that. because as you pointed out, the average citizen is now caught in this no man's land, and it's a precarious place to be, my friend. Thank you for having me on. I know it's crazy right now with the weather conditions, but I really so wanted to talk to you about the ESG and the Second Amendment issues and everything else going on there.

You were an incredible warrior and champion for us. Sean, I appreciate everything you're doing. You're really one of the good guys, and there's probably 15, 20 of them out there that are in, as attorney generals, that are just die hard. And you are one of the real leaders of that group, and I appreciate it. And good luck running against Mitt Romney in the primary. Anyway, Sean Ray has the Attorney General for the great state of you. No, no, no.