The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Sen. Rand Paul | 5/14/25

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

Sen. Rand Paul. (R-Ky.) joins to discuss Trump's speech in Saudi Arabia, his views on the "big, beautiful bill," and the current state of the COVID-19 investigations. Glenn and Stu discuss Jake Tapper's new book, which goes into the White House's cover-up of Biden's mental decline, as Stu reveals the journalist whose coverage of Biden was most egregious. Do you want AI to become an assistant that is always listening to your conversations?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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everybody's giving Jake Tapper a hard line. And believe me, no tears are being shed here for Jake Tapper, at least from me. You know, but he came out with the book, along with the guy from AP or Politico, I can't remember.

Alex Thompson. Yeah. And so they put the book out and they're talking about, for instance, the latest is that, you know, George Clooney. didn't have,

it was so shocked, and members of the audience were so shocked that Joe Biden was just not even there. And remember, it was the administration who then said, those were deep fakes. That was just deep fake. You know,

that's not, or they said, well, he was just standing on the stage, you know, he wasn't lost. He was just admiring the crowd and soaking in their applause.

Really? I believe the term they used was cheap fakes. Yeah, cheap fakes. Cheap fakes. And now we find out in the book that George Clooney was horrified. And so were the people around George Clooney when, I mean, he was throwing that benefit. And when he came, he said Joe Biden had no idea who he was. And they had met, you know, multiple times.

He describes him as friends, not as they'd met multiple times. He describes him as friends. They were good friends over a long period of time. And Joe Biden didn't recognize him. Now, take out the fact that he's one of the most famous people in the world. Yeah, I know. Right. Like, even if you've never met him, like, if we were, we went into 7-Eleven and George Clooney walked in, we'd all be like, that's George Clooney.

Right. Like, this is not a borderline thing. Right. He didn't recognize him. That's a real problem. So here's Jake Tapper now talking about how the White House covered up Biden's deterioration. Listen. The bottom line is the White House was lying, not only to the press, not only to the public.

But they were lying to members of their own cabinet. They were lying to White House staffers. They were lying to Democratic members of Congress, to donors about how bad things had gotten. And in fact, Alex and I started writing this book after the election of 2024. And we spoke with more than 200 people, most of whom, almost all of whom were Democrats. And almost all of whom wouldn't be honest with us or wouldn't be candid with us until after the election. And then after the election, we found out all of these things that when you looked at what was going on with President Biden at the time, it probably doesn't surprise you the extent to which he was deteriorating. But now we have anecdotes and facts about what was really going on behind the scenes with details that Democrats wouldn't share with us until after election day.

That was kind of his excuse basically as to why it wasn't talked about before, right? Because they wouldn't talk until the election was over. Yeah. Well, what about them going to jail? if they did something against the Constitution, they should go to jail. Not being that afraid of this president being completely checked out. And you're not telling the cabinet,

there's a problem. There's a real problem. You can't keep that information from the people who need to know that. I 100% agree with that. And they should all go to jail. Yeah, whatever. If there are crimes committed here, and I think there may have been,

we should definitely have an investigation. that looks at all the messages. Yeah, this isn't about a book. And it's certainly not about Jake Tapper. No, I will say with the Tapper, excuse me, the Tapper, I have Rand Paul. I was going to say, both me and Iran both can't talk today. The excuse here is a bit frustrating, to be frank, from Jake Tapper. Because I think what he's saying is actually true, right?

They really weren't talking about this to the media. They weren't leaking to the media. They had a relatively button. up operation when it comes to protecting Joe Biden, including, according to the book, protecting Joe Biden, shielding him is the term they used, from his own staffers. I can't even describe how insane that is. But like, sure, they weren't telling you. Sure, they were lying to you.

But you know what? Let's step back for a second. The media does not have a good relationship with the Trump administration, do they? No. Very bad one, right? When they go to Stephen Miller and they ask him a question about, hey, what about this thing? Stephen Miller, they might think Stephen Miller is telling them lies. What do they do after that?

What if they get something from the press secretary and they don't think it's true, what do they do? Just report it mindlessly? Do they say what she's saying is true? Because, of course, she said it. No. They dig and they dig and they dig and they dig. and they dig and they find somebody, some intern of an intern

who will say the opposite. You can't tell me that Jake Tapper doesn't have George Clooney's phone number and can call... Probably does. Probably does. Or at least know somebody who has it and can get into it and call him and go,

dude, look, this is what I'm hearing. And I don't want our side to lose either, you know. But this is very dangerous. Is this true? And so I think... Somebody would have spoken. Somebody would have. And by the way, at least,

according to this book, and I'm sure Clooney was a source of the book, so you can take this for what it's worth. But according to the book, I mean, Clooney deserves some credit here in that when he saw Biden in this state, he decided he wanted to do something and was told by Barack Obama not to. And changed and did come out. And did it anyway. The minute, what was it two weeks after the, the debacle of the debate? Yeah, yeah, right. It was about a little bit of now. Now, he didn't do it right away. No, but he did, the rest of them didn't do it until the election was over. Right. And I will say, you know, we should have less criticism, not none, but less criticism for people who do come out and do it eventually. I think. That's at least my belief.

Like, I played a clip yesterday of, on my show, Studios America, available on police TV, by the way, of Joe Scarborough in March of 2024, saying he's the sharpest he's ever. been this version of Joe Biden is the best version that has ever existed of Joe Biden. This is just, I mean, you know, weeks before, I guess months, before this election, but not many months before the debate, four months before the debate. That, and he has not come out. He didn't write a book. He just said this thing that should have discredited him to every audience member until the end of time. and has not come out and said, by the way, until it was politically feasible to do so.

Didn't write a book, didn't do deep reporting, didn't go and get all of his sources. He was just carrying the water of what he wanted to happen that entire time. Pathetic. And every person who's ever tuned into that show, the four people who have, should never do it again. I mean, how do you have any credibility after saying something like that? When you obviously know it's not true. So let me play this. because if you look, it is hard to find Jake Tapper defending.

But there is a montage going out that does have, well, a minute and two seconds of him defending. Listen. How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that? It's very clearly a cognitive decline. That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable. You are no... You have no...

It's so amazing to me that... And try and figure out an answer. A cognitive decline in the Biden embraces his stutter talking about it while Trump mocks it, exaggerates it, belittles it. He's sharp physically. I mean, mentally. Yeah. I think the question is physically, right?

Right. Or so? Right. Right. And the guy who's his chief opponent is only three or four years younger than a man. I mean, you have questioned President of Biden's age, mental fitness, ability to lead of those supporting Biden. You said, quote, shame on all of you, pretending everything is okay.

You're leading us and him into a disaster. Do you worry that you damaged him at all? I don't doubt that you got hugs and handshakes behind close doors today and maybe even publicly some of them because they like you personally. But I've heard a lot of really nasty stuff about you from your Democratic colleagues. I mean, just like what is he thinking, exercise in narcissism. Again, what is it? That's four clips, four interviews. One of them is talking to Dean Phillips, who was the guy who was saying this early and didn't get any credit for it on the Democratic side, who deserves the credit for it.

And then the first one is from 2020, the year 2020, which is, you know, and then there's two other clips. They're short. And I've seen five versions of this montage and every one of them has the same four clips in it. So like I'm not, it's not that Tapper deserves no criticism for those clips. He does deserve it. If he comes, I think we should get him on the air and ask him about it. I think. I don't think he's coming on the air.

Maybe he won't. We've asked. If he does, we should. It would be fair to ask him. about those clips. I agree. And he should be asked. But like the level between him and Joe Scarborough, there's a galaxy between them.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And so the fact that he's coming out now and writing a book with it, with another journalist who did ask these questions throughout the entire process, Alex Thompson, I think is more of a positive than a negative. The only problem with those clips that I have is the first one. Play this again. The bottom line is the White House was lying not only to the press, not only to the public, but they were lying to members of their own cabinet.

they're relying to the White House staff. You mean the one for the montage. The montage again. How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that? It's very clearly a cognitive decline.

That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable. Totally dismissing. It's so amazing. It's so amazing to me that and try and figure out an answer. A cognitive decline. The Biden is,

that's by far the worst one. But the problem with that one, he is not engaging as a journalist. No. Okay, that's not a journalist. How do you think it makes little kids feel? That's the question. She can say, whatever she wants to say.

Okay, I don't think you answered the question or whatever the follow-up is, but he became the defender of Biden. In that moment. That's the problem with that one. I totally agree. I think that's a bad clip. It was, again, from 2020. By the way, I think it was still clear. He was in cognitive decline then.

Yes. So I don't give him a huge excuse, though. Remember, this is the time when they kept him in the base. basement. Right. So I'm totally with you. I thought it was obvious then. So that clip I think is bad. Though we could make a four-hour montage of Joe Scarborough and the view clips that were much, much worse than. Here's Scarborough. But comparing that guy's mental state, I've said it for years now. He's cogent. But I undersold him when I said he was cogent. He's far beyond cogent. In fact, I think he's better than he's ever. been. Intellectually.

Intellectually. Analytically. Because he's been around for 50 years. And, you know, I don't know if people know this or not. Biden used to be a hothead. Sometimes that Irishman would get in front of the reasoning. Sometimes you would say things he didn't want to say. What?

This is, and I don't really, you know what? I don't really, start your tape right now because I'm about to tell you the truth. Betting his career here. And F you, if you can't handle the truth. This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever. Not a close second. And I've known him for years. The Brzezinski's have known him for 50.

How does that not end your career? How does that clip not end your career? How could that possibly be right? Because when he was so cognitively in disrepair, he didn't do any of the things. He wasn't responsible for any of those things. Somebody else was doing it. He was like, what should we do today? That's the best Joe Biden I've ever seen.

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in yesterday's speech, which I think should have been like a libertarian's dream. It was mine. Listen to this. And it's crucial for the wider world to note this great transformation has not come from Western interventionists or flying people in beautiful planes giving you lectures on how to live

and how to govern your own affairs. No, the gleaming marvels of Riyadh and Abu Dhabi were not created by the so-called nation-builders, neocons, or liberal non-profits like those who spent trillions and trillions of dollars failing to develop Kabbal, Baghdad, so many other cities. Instead, the birth of a modern Middle East has been brought by the people of the region themselves, the people that are right here, the people that have lived

here all their lives, developing your own sovereign countries, pursuing your own unique visions and charting your own destinies in your own way. It's really incredible what you've done. in the end the so-called nation builders wrecked far more nations than they built, and the interventionalists were intervening in complex societies that they did not even understand themselves. They told you how to do it, but they had no idea how to do it themselves. Peace, prosperity, and progress ultimately came not from a radical rejection of your heritage, but rather from embracing your national traditions and embracing the world. that same heritage that you love so dearly.

Rand Paul, what did you think of that? Pretty amazing. You know, there have been so many times when I've heard President Trump speak or seen his actions on foreign policy that I've been, oh, my goodness, is the best president we've had in my lifetime. I thought he sounded almost like Washington at that point. Just like, do it yourself. We're not here to tell you what to do.

I haven't heard that ever from any president. And this is why the Bush wing hates Donald Trump so much to the establishment, because these are the people who wanted to spend freedom at the point of a gun everywhere. And they thought we were going to shape the world for democracy, which is sort of a leftover Woodrow Wilson idea. But no, this is the part of Donald Trump I completely embrace and courage and will defend and depend on a daily basis. So I said earlier today that I thought that part of that speech was as significant as the Gorbachev tear down this wall speech. agree or disagree? I agree. It's incredibly significant to say, you know, we've, we developed these relationships not by

busting around the world, not by intervening, but by basically, you know, trading and he didn't use the word trade we could have, but basically having trading good relations with these countries that develop themselves. So while we're there, why don't we talk about, why don't we talk about, I don't know, trading nothing for a $400 million airplane? where do you stand on this gift from Qatar? Well, there is this little sticking point. You know, the Constitution says you can't take emoluments or gifts unless they're approved by Congress.

I think Jefferson was offered something, and Congress actually voted against Thomas Jefferson being allowed to keep it. But you can't do it. I mean, it's just, and it's going to set up the appearance of impropriety, whether Congress will protect him and not vote on it, possibly. But the other thing is, we're the world's largest arms merchant. We sell arms by the billions everywhere throughout the Middle East. We populate both sides of every war on the planet. And so Qatar is a big recipient of arms from us. And so we make these decisions. And the president pretty much makes them on his own. Congress has the chance to object. And I have objected in the past to both Qatar and Saudi Arabia receiving arms when I felt like, particularly when the

journalist Khashoggi was killed by the Saudis. I thought we should have laid off arms for a while, and somebody should have had to pay some penance over that. I agree. And so I've tried to block different arm sales before, but there's a potential that the administration's objectiveness will be clouded by a $400 million plane. There are some practical concerns as well.

One of them is, is where are we on the one that they've ordered? If it's already made and they're just upgrading it, you know, putting the electronics and defensive weapons on Air Force One, and they're within six months of being completed, the Qatari plane would have to be completely outfitted. You know, it has to be probably stripped down on the inside, completely reconfigured, has to have the special stuff that's classified. It's two to five years just to finish it.

Yeah, so it may be that the other plane is actually closer to being finished than this one. It is disappointing, and Boeing's disappointing on so many fronts that they haven't had this plane since I think it was commissioned by the first President Trump and four years later still isn't ready is really a disappointment. But we'd have to know more about it. The thing is if he really wants this plane and it's a great plane, the Qataris could either sell it or give it back to Boeing and Boeing to sell it to us

if we could pay a price. And then we alleviate all of this. If he takes it, every family transaction that they have had in the Middle East the last 10 years or next 10 years is going to be. doubly scrutinized. And I think it doesn't come to any good. So what do you think about the possible, and this may be giving him too much benefit of the doubt,

but the guy is playing, you know, 15-dimensional chess, it seems, so many ways. He, I spoke to him about the Boeing plane a few weeks ago, and he was smoked. And, you know, we began our participation in and ended World War II in a quick her time than we have ordered that plane in 2018 to today. So, I mean, what is Boeing doing? And he's saying, and others are saying that it may be five years from now, maybe even 10.

What about the idea that he is just trying to push the pressure on Boeing and, like, get it done? Boeing has become an extension of the government. They're a government bureaucracy. They behave like it. You know, look, I think the Empire State Building was built in a year. China right now can erect a 30, what's that? 10 months. 10 months.

Yeah, China can erect a 30-story building in a matter of two or three months. I mean, it's amazing how fast things can be done. And Boeing can't make a plane in four years, and sometimes their planes don't fly. And so that is a problem if you're a plane manufacturing, they don't fly. But it's because, God, brother, Boeing is such a slow, ponderous corporation that's, been, you know, had monopoly on sort of government planes for so long that they're being out-competed internationally and they're just slow, you know, and so I see them more as an extension of government bureaucracy than I do as real capitalism, but no company could get away with being

this poor and this slow moving if there was a real marketplace. So what do you do to solve that? Because I think that, I mean, that is the real solution. It's, I feel like the former Soviet Union when they would, you know, when Gorbachev or anybody else would get into a zill, you're like, ooh, that's nice. That'll break, well, that'll break down halfway to the airport. You know, what do we do? Boeing, you can't sue Boeing. The president can't sue Boeing. The country can. How do you fix this? Here's the interesting thing, Glenn, and this intersects with the discussion over trade. Some would say, we need to protect them, and that's what we do. We protect Boeing. We protect them from international trade. What if we did this? What if we got rid of the trade barrens?

and we let all the international companies compete with Boeing. Boeing would have to get better or go bankrupt. So they're inefficient because they are protected. Some would say the same happened to U.S. steel over many generations. It wasn't that we didn't protect U.S. steel. We've had steel import quotas for generations. We've tried to do whatever we can to block international steel from coming here. And yet all it did is it led to a large behemoth U.S. steel that was about like Boeing,

wasn't able to react to the marketplace. But let me talk to you about government aircraft, military aircraft. We have to have an aircraft company. I agree. What can we do? What if the president, because honestly, the right thing for the president to do is sue Boeing. Look, you violated our entire contract. It means nothing.

I'm going elsewhere. But he can't sue Boeing because it's, you know, that would be very bad. And the second thing is he has no choice but to buy American. So how do we solve this? The other thing, I guess you could. do is you could reduce what they're paid. So for example, if we, if the government said we were giving them a billion, we give them $500 billion, whatever it is, and that should be in every contract, too. And, you know, I think Elon Musk was a big promoter of this. When he started building rockets

to take satellites into space, he said, the problem you guys have is it's cost plus. So everybody just keeps inflating their costs because they always get the same profit or bigger profit if they have cost overruns, make a competitive bidding and put penalties into your contracts. So, Boeing should have penalties in the contract. If you want another airline or another company to make planes in the U.S., I'm perfectly happy to vote for no corporate taxes on somebody who will make planes in competition with Boeing. Just no corporate taxes, period, 10 years, 20 years. It would take a lot for the incentive because it takes a lot of money to get started in that field.

But look, Elon Musk started from scratch maybe 10 years ago building rockets. So you think somebody couldn't, like Elon Musk's car, building planes? In fact, I guarantee you if Elon weren't so tied up with other things, if you said, Elon, why don't you start a plane company to compete with Boeing? I'll bet you have it started in a year. You're streaming the best of Glenn Beck. To hear more of this interview and others, download the full show podcasts wherever you get podcasts. All right, welcome to the program.

I want to talk to you a little bit about AI. Apparently, there is a new AI, the scientist at Mass General, in Boston have developed a new AI tool called face age. And it can tell your biological age by a picture of you. And apparently, not just your biological age, but how healthy you are. In fact, they believe now with the eyeball test, research in the Lancet Digital Health,

indicates, you ready for this, that artificial intelligence will be able to not only spot that you have cancer, but also if you are being treated for cancer, that's not working. They have this much time to live. How terrifying is that? I mean, how great is that? How terrifying is that? you would you have if you could have it and it would tell you wow you're looking pretty old and beat up uh you don't have much longer to live would would you go into the face tool and say how long do i live how how how i don't think i would do that

i wouldn't want that i would i would want to know if i could do something about it i suppose i mean i guess being able to if you knew and again this is somewhat speculative here but if if you knew knew you were going to die in two months. I guess I, the idea of wanting to know would be intimidating, but I also think, like, I'd like to probably have moments with my family and my kids and say the things I want to say and, like, get my affairs aligned and such. Start some new affairs. New affairs.

I'm not just kidding. Just kidding, honey. But, you know what I mean? Like, I'd like to get my, you do you want to get your affairs arranged? Do you want to make sure you're not leaving your family with a burden? You want to make sure that you say to your kids, the things you want to say, maybe you want to write something. What if you put your face in, okay, and you're like, okay, take the picture.

How much, you know, what do I have left? And it just comes back. What time is it now? I don't know. If the stupid device can't tell time, I probably, it's like a VCR. I don't know. What are you got? 20 minutes?

Maybe, maybe. I don't know. You're not doing well. Look a little peeked. Some of the things that are coming with AI. are remarkable. Life changing, too. I would say society changing probably.

So can I just read something to you that is part of it is beyond my understanding and we'll be beyond some. But I just want you to hear this now. This is I rule the world MO. This is at I rule the MO. I rule the world MO. Nobody really knows who this is. They think that this might be an insider and one of the big A.

research firms. Okay. But they also think it might be a bot by one of these AI research terms to throw the other research terms off. Okay. They have no idea who this is. Okay. So, but just listen to what I read.

I'm hoping it's a bot that's trying to throw people off. Listen to this. Just got off a four hour phone call with sources inside Chinese deep seek labs. And holy cow, they're using other language. We are so effing behind. It's not even funny anymore. Hmm. Deepseek R2 isn't an incremental improvement.

It is a completely different species of intelligence operating on principles. Nobody in the West has even theorized yet. They've abandoned transformer architectures entirely for something they're calling recursive cognition lattices. The scale and dimension of our math doesn't even have a good notation for this. The compute efficiency gains that violate what we thought were fundamental limits, like 400 times improvement in reasoning per terraflop. Not four, not 40, 400 times our benchmarks now are literally meaningless. The scariest part isn't the raw capability, but how it's developing novel mathematical frameworks on the fly to solve problems. Research gives it questions and it events

entirely new branches of mathematics to answer them. One physicist showed it a problem he'd been stuck on for 15 years. It solved it in seconds with notations nobody recognized. It took three days for them to translate its solution back into standard mathematics. We saw demo videos that can't possibly be real except multiple independent sources confirm. R2 designed and simulated room temperature superconductor from first principles in under an hour, complete with fabrication methods using existing technology. They've already. already produced the samples in the Beijing labs, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Their integration, their integrate, I can't say it now.

Interrogation? No, no, no. The merging with man and machine. With biological systems is the- Integration? Integration, thank you. With biological systems is the real nightmare fuel. Two-way neural interfaces that make neural link look like a child's toy.

direct cognitive enhancement already in human trials. This isn't even the most advanced system. They're the ones showing it publicly. America is still treating this like normal technology race while China understands it's an extinction level transformation of civilization. It's like watching a nuclear power race where one side is debating the ethics of gunpowder. Wow. Now, because my

recollection of the deep seek story when that came out a few months ago was experts landed on the idea that there is absolutely, like they basically were using our technology. Yes. And it wasn't as impressive as initially thought. And so this person or bot is saying that it is.

Now, I will say if you are a person trying to hide your identity saying that you just had a four hour conversation with a specific company, I mean, how many four hour conversations happened that day? it would be a weird way to hide your identity unless you're lying about it. So who knows, maybe it's just all blown out. Hopefully it's all blown out. I mean, you read the, I mean, Sam Altman follows.

I mean, others follow. I mean, it's not just, it's seen inside the circles and they don't know who it is or what it is. A post like that makes me think it's a Chinese bot. Yeah, because it seems like it's a promoting deep seek, right? Yes. But he's not always promoting deep seek or it is in promoting. And this is the craziest part. You don't know.

Now it doesn't have to be a person. It could be an algorithm. Now, of course, there is this thing. You know, there's no, what is it? There's no limit to the levels humans can achieve when you don't care about pain and suffering. Yes. I think I'm paraphrasing Luis G. But it's like, you know, Chinese can just kind of throw bodies at this.

If they're doing live human trials on this stuff, as we've seen maybe with Wuhan in the past, They're kind of willing to do anything. And if they're doing this and actually seeing these advances, we wouldn't do. No. You wouldn't be in human trials yet for any of this stuff. Although, you know, a very long ramp up for Elon Musk's company is we've seen some of that, I guess. But they're just, they'll just throw people at it. You know what's crazy is we are dealing with technology that we have absolutely no idea what it's going to be like, what it can do, nothing, nothing.

and and I've read several of this this bot or this person's posts and they're talking about how just everything that you everything the way you work the way you think everything is just about ready to be just completely disrupted yeah and and we're just the world is just kind of going along with it and we're like oh I don't know I don't know it could be maybe we should pass something about it we're just going along with it and you know science there's a There's a watch, I think it was Omega. I can't remember. There was a watch that was made in the 1950s and 60s,

and it sweep hand, it's secondhand. It had like a lollipop and it was, you know, on it. So it was the stick of the hand. And then it had like this little circle on it. And it was sweeping around. And the reason why they put the lollipop on it is it was a signal to the buyer and the wearer that that watch didn't have radiation in it. And it's not like, oh, you were working at a lab.

It was that they were, you know, we had put to make things glow at night, that was radiation. Okay. To get the luminosity on watches, at first we were like, why we just used some of this? And that went on for like a couple of decades, you know? And we were like, hey, I'll come his arm keeps losing all his hair in the first week wearing that watch. watch. And so they put like this little lollipop on it going, yep, no radiation in this one, dude. That's crazy that we could make, we could do that kind of stuff for that long and we kind of forget about it. And now, what are we working with? This is going to make nuclear stuff look like

nothing, like nothing. We're so close to it as well. I read another, I read another post where they were saying that it is getting so fast for defense that, and I said this, I know I said this five years ago, that you won't even know that you've lost the war because for you, the war hasn't even started yet, but you will start and lose the war in a flash. in as time as it takes you to go, wait a minute, there's a war going on, what?

You've already lost. It happened and you've lost. Because AI is going to get so good. It will predict absolutely every move that everybody's going to make. And it will just go, well, here's a counter move, boom. And put it in.

You're like, okay, well, that's over. It's like when you, you're not a big video game guy, but when you start playing a game and you're going, you just decide to go on like the toughest, level of the opposing AI and like the just can't do anything like you you just automatically your base is destroyed in seconds that's a very very low level version of this yeah um let me can I give

you one other thing on AI I think this is fascinating this is in the wall this was in the Wall Street journal two weeks ago and I didn't hear any I haven't heard anybody talking about it um we've talked about for a long time us the surveillance state right like I remember with you taking calls from people who are going, I will not get an easy pass because that means they can track me when I go through the tolls. Remember when we were in Tampa? This is the year 2000,

they put cameras up in the streets of... Is it a Bore City? Ebor City. And everybody was like, I'm going to put up with a camera nut not in America all day right now. Nobody was willing to give their fingerprints. Nobody wanted to give their face.

Yep. None of it. Now we all carry a phone, which of course GPS everywhere we go. Yeah. We click yes, agree, agree, agree to everything. We open the phone with our face. Listen to this.

This is amazing. This is from an author, Joanna Stern. Wall Street Journal. Wall Street Journal. I've been wearing a wire everywhere since February. How the article starts. I've got all the transcripts, important meetings, arguments with my kids, chats with disgruntled employees, late night bathroom routines.

There's plenty more that I can't share if I want to in my boss. and my family as well to keep liking me. No, I'm not an FBI informant. I willingly wore a $50 bracelet that records everything I say and uses AI to summarize my life and send me helpful reminders. Why would you do that? That's called a panapticon. I think we're basically, how do you have a private conversation in this world?

They have, she tested two other devices as well that are on the market now for $159, $199. They recall every single thing. They transcribe every single thing. They have recordings of every single thing that was said by her or around her. Let's try it for a week. Crazy. That's crazy. Crazy.

Crazy. No, it's crazy not to try it to show everybody how bad it is, but it would be crazy to do it and be like, I think that's going to be a great addition to my life. She says, within hours of wearing the spray. I was blown away at how quickly it turned ramblings and random chatter into useful, actionable information. Yet allow me to quote myself from February 24th at 5.15 p.m. This bracelet is really effing creepy.

Apparently said that out loud. But I mean, you can see, again, I can see a world where that would, probably would be beneficial. If you have a conversation with someone about something, God, what do they say? You'd have it. When you were saying, hey, we should get together next Thursday. It puts something in your calendar that says, hey, call this person about that Thursday meeting you discuss. Of course that would be beneficial in some way. It's like having an assistant.

If you're an executive, you might have an assistant. Those bots are already come. By the end of the year, those will be strong everywhere. You'll have that assistant doing that in your phone and everything else. It already do that. This is the death of private conversations, though. It is, they're over. Yeah.

You never, every single time you have a conversation. you should act like you're on television having it. Yes. Well, we've lived that way for a long time. That's what made me so interested. We said back in 2008, we go to Fox. Remember, I'm the most admired man in the world. I'm number three.

In the AP every year they do that poll. And I'm tied with the Pope and Nelson Mandela, okay, for number three. That's how screwed up our values were back then. But anyway. So I go from that on to Fox and all of a sudden it is like hatred. Hatred everywhere. And everything we say, because we're in New York City, we have to be careful. Is somebody listening to us?

Is anything around? So everything we say in private, unless you were in our own house until some security guy came and said, um, no. But anything that we were saying in our own house, you know, might be fine. Everything else and everything I remember saying. every text you write, I don't care who it's to, I don't care what it's about. Imagine it on the front page of the New York Times. You have to write everything as if it's on the front page of the New York Times.

So it is, it's, I mean, it can be done, but it's really awful. But even then, as you point out, the house, there are moments where you think you'd have a private conversation with someone. When they're wearing a recordable, which is, again, they're tiny, they're little bracelets. I don't even notice. Here's the thing. My wife wears one of these rings with her. Or a ring. Yeah.

To talk about her steps and her heartbeat and everything. Yeah. So, and I'm watching this and she got up in the morning and she's checking her sleep and stuff. And I'm like, can I borrow that ring? And she's like, no, I don't know. Get your own. And I'm like, I really don't want it. But it's pretty cool.

It's pretty cool. It tells you everything you need to. I mean, it monitors your body. And it's great if it's contained there. And you can go delete. you know what I mean I mean and they of course say that even the recording device places say everything's encrypted

of course right I will say the one thing maybe legally you could do on this stuff is there's only 12 states that are two party consent states for recordings that strikes me as wrong like it's probably should be a lot higher like I don't know if you're recording yourself

yeah but if you're having a conversation with someone it's a one party consent so you're the party you can say you consent to the recording I don't care what they do do what you want to with them, just leave me alone. Nah, na, na, na,